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The cope needs to end. You all know you want a Leica. They feel SO amazing in hand, nothing comes close to shoot with. All the best photos taken in the last 50 years have been on a Leica. You spend so so so much money on your little eBay finds: eBay digishits, "junk" status cameras on Japanese auctions, thrift store "bargains" that are filled with mold. Just stop. For your own good. Sell the junk to other losers. Save up for a few weeks, a month or two at max. Even if you earn minimum wage you can get a Leica if you just stop buying the cope junk.

You know I am right. I know I am right. Let's stop the bullshit. Once we all have Leicas we can finally make /p/ great again.
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>>4326862
Nah, I am good nigga.

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>gets mogged by this pos
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Leicas were mostly used for jew york street garbage. Not good photos. Just jews exalting jews as heroes of modern art to have a non-religious excuse for their religiously mandated nepotistic charity. That’s all the reason there is behind the careers of hacks like winogrand. There is a religion on this planet that requires its adherents help each other succeed financially even if they need to bend morality a bit to do so and destroy some good principles and corrupt culture along the way (in fact, they enjoyed it because you know who else held art to good standards? hitler!)

Objectively speaking all the good photos were taken on SLRs and large format cameras
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>>4326862
obsolete rich hipster camera
there's a reason everybody switch to SLRs in the 60's (hint: they're better)
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>>4326866
>because you know who else held art to good standards? hitler!
lets not kid ourselves here man
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>>4326864
More junk that you wish was Leica.
>>4326865
Nope. And cope.
>>4326866
Cope.
>>4326867
Poorfag cope.

Please guys. We can all get good photos if you just stop coping for a few weeks.
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>shooting baby frames
kek
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>>4326862
You will never own a Leica
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>>4326875
thats awesome, can you post some photos you took with it?
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Yknow, I recently bought a Lica and honestly? My Nikon F3 was built better.

Its a nice camera tho but its no way the end-all be-all camera.

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does Alex Burke still come here?
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>>4326864
Based I got one just today.

I has a m8 once..peice of crap.
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>>4326890
Last thread I remember of his was probably ~2 years ago, maybe last year
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>>4326887
I noticed you said "was". Is that because the jap crap broke? HA!
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Leicas are notorious for breaking and charging obscene amounts of money for the same optical quality you get from ttartisan

Leica fags need to invent optical non-terms (with no evidence to back them up) like "depth rendition" and "leica glow" to cope with how people mistake an xpro3 with a shitty ttartisans lens for their jewelry camera in terms of both its exterior and its output
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>>4326911
Cope. Just stop man. Sell the crap and get the pinnacle of photography. If you keep waiting, AI art will take over photography and it will be dead before you got to enjoy the perfect kino tool.
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>>4326862
>Sensor too small for astrophography
>Rangefinder too shit for macro work

Yeah, I think I'll keep my ebay nikon. If I need to be pretentious snapshit taking ass I can buy an iPhone, it might actually last me 5 years without breaking down.
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>>4326910
Nah I sold it.
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I already have something that feels good in my hands
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Leica sucks
>Y-YOU CANT AFFORD IT
Max out your credit card if you want, but leica sucks
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OP is trapped in the super consumer mindset and now gets his dopamine from purchases and actively lusting after items
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>>4326862
i always enjoyed using rangefinders
sometimes use it for weddings or engagement sessions, mostly used for snaps at the bar or walking the dog, travel for sure, survived one backpacking trip
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>>4326890
burke is probably one of the many nophoto shitposters on this board, but at least he blesses /p/ with some good photos every few years
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>>4326938
Alex’s secret identity is… 4x5 dog guy
>you thought his photos looked like gear tests
>they were.
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>>4326866
/thread
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>>4326862
Does Leica take bird butt pics? No? In trash it goes!
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The little red badge makes it look cheap. Looks like some kind of novelty Coca-Cola promotional item.
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Love their film cameras, not as keen about the digital. Had an M10, sold it, bought an M5, keeping it.
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>>4327034
Finally an honest answer in this thread. Leica film cameras are quite simply: exquisite.
>>4326994
Lame zoomer "le irony I don't even care but clearly cares so much he had to make a shitty meme" cope.
>>4326938
>>4326939
Gay-brained spiritually feminine social obsessed cope.
>>4326935
Le capitalism is bad cope.
>>4326917
Japcrap spectard cope. Once you feel a Leica in your hands you will understand. Be better.
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>>4327050
>Once you feel a Leica in your hands you will understand.
This sounds like such a cringe fucking meme and I hate to admit this, but it’s fucking true. I just got my m4-2, and even being the poorfag Leica it still feels magnificent to hold and use. Once I finally got to hold it and use it, I “got” it. It’s hard to explain in a way that won’t sound like retardation, but it is what it is.
Inb4 >buyers remorse cope
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Leica users are always such bad photographers these days. And no wonder

Just look at them.
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>>4326862
poor tele selection.
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>>4327328
Tele is for cowards.
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>>4327355
go take gull butt pic with no tele
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>>4327355
>tele is for cowards
>also, i need a small camera so no one sees me
>nothing scares me more than someone seeing me taking their photo
>*shoves leica in hobos face, hides it in a jacket pocket, and runs*
An 85mm f1.8 will transform your street photography and make your balls drop - if you have an SLR, otherwise it will all be out of focus and you'll still be gay.
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>>4326862
>Leica
No thanks

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>>4326938
He left when /pol/ showed up
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>>4326862
The real cope is non leica glass on a leica. Haven't seen one post of a leica body
with an actual leica lens on here so far lol.
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>>4327857
leica glass is the real cope
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>>4327857
the bodies are way more special than the lenses. everyone knows this. if you only cared about the lenses, you'd just adapt them
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>>4326862
Liking Rangefinders are a sign of mental illness
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>>4327924
Poorfag cope.
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>>4328229
whys that
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>>4328275
Which Leica lenses do you own? Can we see some pics with them?
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Holy shit, a new M6 is €7000. Without a lens...
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>>4327924
You really have to get your hands on an M camera to really start to see what the fuss is about. You can still not like it afterwards, but you can’t deny how solid and premium the fuckin things feel. Even my Leica CL which is the turbo poorfag Leica still feels like a great camera a step above Japanese cameras of the same tier and same era. There’s a reason the company almost went tits up in the 70s, well besides the M5 disaster and the markets migrating to SLRS, they also refused to chase the mass production cost cutting the Japanese did. At least until the m4-2. For all the posturing and hyperbole by fanboys and antifanboys, beneath it all they really are quite nice little machines
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>>4328301
I held a leica once and failed to appreciate how it's any better than a nikon fm3a. They feel as solid as a sony mirrorless only the composition/focusing system is objectively crap for everything period and would have only been excusable in the early days when people were incapable of designing a sub-80mm SLR lens that wasn't a blurry mess until f4

It definitely feels more premium than an ae-1 or an om-2n or other hipster darlings but some later japanese SLRs and the lenses you can get for them are on par.

If you will only use pre-80s cameras then use a leica, viewfinding through a soft 50mm f1.4 on an SLR is not fun
But if you're not a hipster do get a more modern SLR with more modern lenses, when computer design really got good is when "the leica look" (fast lenses that are sharp center and midframe wide open with a little residual aberrations adding funk) vanished from the vernacular of all but leica fanboys, because everyone with an "ok" lens had it
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Pentax lx >>>> leica
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>>4328301
nah they feel quite solid and heavy but they are anything but reliable desu even the much vaunted M3. The cloth shutter is awful at retaining accurate shutter speeds and the rangefinder can't survive a year without needing to be calibrated if I'm actually using and travelling with it.
Honestly the only superior aspect of the bodies is that the film advance feels like pure sex, which I think isn't even the case after the M4...
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>>4326862
I was walking on the beach one day with my canon A-1 taking snapshits and this old jap dude starts looking at me, when I greeted him he whipped out his leica and we shooted the shit about film as much as his shitty english allowed for. He hands me his camera and I give him mine, this is the first time I had ever touch a leica, they are nice, the viewfinder is great and I told him as much. Meanwhile the whole time he's saying nice things about my camera as well. I think if you have stupid money and can afford one like that dude then you might as well go that route, for everyone else the camera you can afford and works nicely for you is the camera you should use.
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>buy $400 m mount camera that's better in many ways to a leicuh
>put leica glass on it

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>>4328667
bessa is cosina cheap shit. no thanks. ur like those contax (also consina or ricoh) larpers.
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>>4328674
Noone can win with you around huh?
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>>4328667
>r2
>$400
whoa where are you getting bessas for over half off?
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>>4328295
Meanwhile ebay is selling them for half that, or less.
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>>4328667
good to see you bessa brother
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>>4329017
do not try to collapse this lens into this camera body
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>muh modern lenses
any new m mount lens fits on an old film leica
>slr is superior for focusing and composing
*puts a filter on the lens*
>they are really bad for focusing
skill issue
>you cant use tele or macro
your 85mm photo of the back of a person crossing the street 20 metres away isnt street photography
what else?
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>>4328674
Ya, nah not really

>>4328734
In 2017

>>4329017
Hellya brother, nice colour

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>>4326939
>drumscanning dog hair
that explains a lot
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>>4329018
Oh sure, you see that big long fat cylinder and just want to slide it all the way in, but in reality, getting punched in the cervix really kills the mood.
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>>4326862
I'm buying my 4th one tomorrow morning.

I currently own an M3, 2 IIIf Barnack bodies and 3 lenses. I own a lot of camera gear but the thing that keeps me coming back to Leica is that I can get ALL my cameras serviced and calibrated. My 1966 M3 was serviced in Germany at Leica before I bought it. I called Leica and had a chat with them about the history of the camera and what they did to it. It runs like a top. The one I am picking up tomorrow was serviced and had the rangefinder cleaned, adjusted, and new curtains installed by a Leitz factory trained technician. They are expensive but also an investment. I could (and have) bought Bessa or Soviet rangefinders hoping that they will continue to run but they are destined to the trash bin of history while the Leica is eternal.
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>>4329284
>she can't service her own shit
not my problem
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>>4326862
You meant a hasselblad, right? Leicas are for poors.
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>>4329034
yeah mostly cameras remind me of vaginas and cocks
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leica threads used to get deleted immediately because mods assumed nobody actually owned these cameras and so any posting about them was a troll
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>>4329436
Which is funny because you can get an m2/3/4/5 for ~$1000. Even a dumb used m6 is ~$1500 these days. A basic bitch FF dslr or milc costs more.

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>>4329444
i can't believe the m5 was made i don't understand it any more than i understand a leica android camera app
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>>4329444
yeah 1000 with no autoficus or zoom lens or ibis how can a retard possibly use it
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>>4326937
i don't want to talk about my other cameras
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>>4329446
It’s not a bad camera. If leica had done to the m4 what it did to the m5, it might have even been a successful camera. You can’t break accessory compatibility when you’re circling the toilet lol. It was their attempt to modernize when slrs were destroying their bootyhole and it was bad timing lol
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>>4329444
>FF DSLR
<$800
>MILC
~$1500 but then it's literally 50x the camera of a leica, which cant even accurately shoot lenses outside of a narrow focal range and breaks all the fucking time if you actually take it out

Leicas are shit, they're vastly outdone by a pentax k1000. They are the original x100v.
"I was really forced to stop collecting lenses in 5mm focal length increments and focus on my photography" - some trust fund kid experiencing a problem only someone stupid enough to buy a leica could

IG maybe for a short period their lenses were unusually good but computer design swooped in and saved the SLR already
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>>4329483
>FF DSLR: <$800
>FF MILC: ~$1500
>Literally every other film camera: $5-100
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>>4329483
Still doesn't negate my point that Leicas are not expensive like everyone acts like they are. There's no difference between spending $1000 to larp as HCB vs $1000 to larp as McKinnon or whoever y'all's favourite digital color grading YouTuber is these days.

Pic related: my $300 Leica and $250 Leica lens

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>>4329597
>Pic related: my $300 Leica and $250 Leica lens
so how many mpix does it have? oh it's a shitty film cam? yeah, i'm not gay enough to shoot film
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>>4329603
35mm film ranges from 10 to 24 mp depending on film stock, development, and the user error

But foveon mp, not bayer mp.
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>>4329603
Moar mpix than yer nophoto

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>>4329605
>But foveon mp, not bayer mp
until you digitize
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>>4329610
you're not digitizing a moving scene tho, you have all the time in the world to digitize the frame. you can use a $350 16mp em5ii in pixel shift mode and get 63 "foveon mp" so you can look at individual grains on the negative.

astrophotography fags were already doing this because space, like negatives, does not move (it's a fixed painting on a giant dome)
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>>4329612
that sounds awesome, can we some examples of your digitizing?
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>>4329615
yes but my gallery has an entry fee of a non-refundable $1000 paypal gift card, saaaaaar. then there will be a waiting period for me to buy the cameras and take the photos.
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>>4329597
Absolutely kino setup. I like rocking the 90mm on mine. Get me those tall building corners.

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>>4329608
wow so artsy
sadly no one is going to look at your shit. the world is full with midwit photo art. at least you make some jew rich by buying film rolls
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>>4329612
>space, like negatives, does not move
rofl lmao lol
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>>4329640
Hellya. I had the 90/4 for awhile but am reducing everything down to just a 35 and 40. Shooting long is super fun tho

>>4329644
That's cool I just like taking pictures and developing bw film. I don't care who sees em

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>>4326862
>All the best photos taken in the last 50 years have been on a Leica.
Can you post some of them, and ones you've taken? I genuinely don't understand film enthusiasts in general, even more so them trying to call others poorfags when their shit is cheaper than most full frames by a large margin.
Is this some kind of insta/twitter consoomer cope because they can't afford a decent mirrorless? Genuine question.
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>>4329701
>I genuinely don't understand film enthusiasts in general, even more so them trying to call others poorfags when their shit is cheaper than most full frames by a large margin.
Not a filmfag thing, a Leicafag thing. It's luxury mentality.
>Is this some kind of insta/twitter consoomer cope because they can't afford a decent mirrorless? Genuine question.
No, it's just luxury mentality. If you can afford a Leica you can afford any major mirrorless system. If you actually have money you don't care and shoot something gay like pro Sony or Nikon bodies, it's just about the appearance of wealth. Conspicuous spending etc.
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>>4326862
>bait
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>>4329726
>If you can afford a Leica you can afford any major mirrorless system.
I used a leica film camera from my gramps when I was a kid, and yes they feel great, but I guess i just don't get the appeal of chasing old film cameras.
So it's more of appear to be rich kinda deal, vs actually using a viable product, similar to garbage 'luxury' clothing brands to show off fake wealth.
Thanks for the input mang.
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>>4329726
It's because some poorfag or middleclass gets the idea is that "poor" people are worried about "value", and that by buying something low value for the price of a high value item, you are showing that you are not poor, because you do not care about your money being well spent. The implication being that you have money to blow and it's not a big deal, "i see it like ya poors see buying a candy bar".

This is called "hood rich" because the amount of money spent is the same and only the posturing goes up. In reality the majority of wealthy people spend their money very, very intelligently. ie: a rich man will daily drive a toyota yaris, but collect historical sportscars that only appreciate in value. A hood rich man will daily drive a used corvette with low budget tire shop "rims", and "dab on" someone who spent the exact same amount of money on a toyota camry and better insurance.
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>>4329864
Rich people don’t drive a Yaris
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>>4329878
yeah rich people drive honda fits instead of putting mileage on their collectible roadsters
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>>4329878
bill gates drives a prius, and owns a porsche 959 sport that's parked all day long - that's a rich person's lifestyle. talk about "value for money" - a car you never drive.

a "leica man" would own a porsche 911 carrera (used film leica of cars) and take the bus or a motorcycle to work every so often while trying to fix it themselves or waiting for the budget shop to get it going again. he'd also talk your ear off at every opportunity
>THE COPE NEEDS TO END
>YOU ALL KNOW YOU WANT A PORSCHE
>THE ROADFEEL IS AMAZING ITS LIKE AN EXTENSION OF MY BODY

as it is with cameras - one of the few domains where car analogies are 1:1 and make perfect sense. because cameras are a lot like sportscars. and a prius is your phone.
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>>4329880
>>4329914
Again, you don't know rich people, lol.
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>>4329920
You dont know the difference between new money, old money, and earned money people. Your rich people are probably trust fund kids, DINKs and asian exports. The rich people being discussed are the top 1%. Only one is worth admiring.
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Leica film cameras aren't fuckin expensive why are y'all talking as if they are.
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>>4329943
$5k for a new camera is a lot of money. I say this as someone with a $600k W2 income.
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Would having a Leica be a sound long-term investment like buying 5oz of gold?
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>>4329977
Not really, but old film leicas are increasing in price. The M8 has gone up too but everything else is coming down gradually because theyre still too new.
Any service you gotta do to them will instantly eat up any profit margins though and its at least a 1000 dollar buy-in
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>>4329977
Only if you planned on taking your bar of gold out to the beach or to the bus stop.

Reminds me of fuckwits that """invest""" in cars (which is actually fucked because covid made that sort of a good result). tmh2r
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>>4329970
I'm talking about used cameras like the M4, m6, etc

>>4329977
Fuck no lmao.

Leica M4 new price in 1969 was $300.
It's worth $1000-$1500 now.

Dropping $300 into the S&P 500 that year would've given you a $7200 return.
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Leica master race checking in.

If you put Commie glass on a Leica you're doing it wrong.
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>>4330116
>No commie glass on leicas

You asked me about my M8 when I first posted about ut here and said something along the lines if "Oh its a crop sensor? Mite be good for cutting out the corners on soviet glass then" as you made it out to be considering one.

What gives???
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>>4330121

No I explicitly railed against you for putting shitty Chinese Commie glass on it because you're fucking larping.
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>>4330123
Nuh uh this is before you lashed out like that
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salaum a-leica, my fellow goyems
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>>4330150
You will never be a real camera
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>>4330123
What's the lens/camera combination that pisses you off the most so I can use it?
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>>4330156
Phone
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>>4329304
Yes, Leica cameras have literally 1000+ parts. Each is handmade. Not my problem because I have money and a phone.
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>>4329355
I own both, and they are wonderful. Nice thing is that both can be serviced. My 1975 500c/m was the camera I shot my first gallery with and it literally changed my life professionally. My 1966 M3 is what I am creating my leather bound handmade family album for my children with. To be fair I paid nearly $1500 more for the M3. The lenses are what skews the prices, not the bodies. A nice Hassy body and M2/M3 body are somewhat similar.
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>>4326906
Pretty sure I saw that one listed. Did you find out that the dried cosmoline jammed the moth eater shutter yet? Please let us know if you can finish a roll why you try to focus with that hazy viewfinder. At the very least it will make a cool discussion piece.

Post pics!
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>>4330161
>I have stupid hands
ok
>>4330156
Put an industar 50 or something like that lmao
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>>4330162
What's with leica lens prices? Multiple thousands for optics that are IDENTICAL to some ttartisan shit, and yet people keep being paypigs for a portugese glass factory and spouting nonsense terms like depth rendition and tonal nanocontrast that don't exist in the worlds of the engineers that actually designed the lenses.
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>>4330165
When the lens design was new
>wow, this is actually sharp and has good contrast, unlike that japanese shit, i'll use this for my professional endeavors
Today
>wow this is like a $300 fujinon but it says leica on it.
But it's not about why those old good photographers chose it, it's about pretending to be them so you can magically absorb their talent, and then spouting some heritage soul nonsense

Also see: 1950s gibson guitars, the other pseudo-artistic boomer flex
>then: whaaaaaaaaat? pickups that dont go bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz? actual sustain? finally. time to record some music.
>now: does same thing as $300 schecter lol keep it
>GAS victim: but i need to play authentic and do the ritual to absorb keith richards powers
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>>4329444
I want an M5 because of how different it is from other leicas, but it also happens to be the least repairable barring access to parts bodies. most leica repairment refuse outright to work on M5s. I think only that sherry something woman plus one more guy work on the M5 now. sad
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>>4330363
Which would make me want one even less. Sherry has been the go to for boomers for like 30 years she ain’t getting younger. You can find posts on boomer forums from like the 90s still where they mention her. Once she kicks it, then you’re SOL. My m4-2 and CL were serviced by sherry interestingly enough, not by me but the guy I bought them from, had nothing but praise. But I mean hard to fuck up a basic cla if you’re a tech, innit.
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>>4329026
>In 2017
i envy.
i see you are exceptionally bessapilled and honestly i've been thinking about doubling up on bodies myself, as the prices are always climbing and i don't want to get slammed later on when my current copy breaks
>>4328301
i don't think the tactilities of leicas feel so vastly better than say the average canon/nikon slr. better, sure, and they blow out of the water almost any current era camera. but the real gap for me is in the satisfying minimalism of the overall design. the whole package is very elegant

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>>4326875
Schutmaat
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Leikikes deserve holocast
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>>4326862
Leicas are cope cameras. Real men shoot medium format at the least.

You’re basically the micro four thirders of film.
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>>4330363
I sold it because it was a heavier, worse version of my Bessas. I do absolutely love how the M5 looks though, which is why I bought it.

>>4330445
Yea I've owned every Bessa version at this point because I find them to be fantastic value. I'm selling everything off except my R2 and CL for backup though. How's that brighten star? Does it mount fine on the R2? The Ms optics pancakes allegedly don't mount on Bessas so wondering if that copy of them does?
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>>4329026
Wish they made bottom-loaded one ;-;
Also - does Bessa-L feel cheap in use?
I wanted to get one some time ago but after seeing how poorly they were made I went for IF (apparently Cosina improved the quality significantly in later/more expensive models)
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>>4326862
>They feel SO amazing in hand
lol no
>All the best photos taken in the last 50 years have been on a Leica
LOL NO
sage because low quality bait
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>>4330501
cool. the brightin star is quite good for the size. ergos are a bit tricky. colorful flares sometimes, which i like. i have not attempted to stick it on the bessa since no 28mm framelines. but i have run into situations where the wider angle would have been nice. what issues do people run into? now i'm a bit scared to try...
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>>4330777
>124 replies
>low quality debate
Yea, you mad.
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>>4330501
Why keeping only the R2? What is better about it?
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Leicakikes are worse than appleniggers
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Leica thread = nophoto thread

Simple as
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>>4330802
nta, but i can compare the others in that batch to r2.
>R
cheaper body material iirc
>L
requires external vf
>R4m
worth like twice as much as an r2
i picked r2 since it's a solid middle ground based around my fav fl of 35mm. reasonable features to price balance

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