Should I get rid of this old gear?It's a Canon 5D mark II.What other camera or brand should I be looking for?Is Sony A7IV any good?[EXIF data available. Click here to show/hide.]Camera-Specific Properties:Equipment MakesamsungCamera ModelSCG07Camera SoftwareAdobe Lightroom 9.5.0 (Android)Maximum Lens Aperturef/2.0Sensing MethodNot DefinedFocal Length (35mm Equiv)25 mmImage-Specific Properties:Horizontal Resolution300 dpiVertical Resolution300 dpiImage Created2024:09:30 23:06:33Exposure Time1/30 secF-Numberf/2.0Exposure ProgramNormal ProgramISO Speed Rating400Lens Aperturef/2.0Brightness-1.0 EVExposure Bias0 EVMetering ModeCenter Weighted AverageLight SourceD65FlashNo FlashFocal Length4.60 mmColor Space InformationsRGBExposure ModeAutoWhite BalanceAutoScene Capture TypeStandard
>>4383507Depends what you're shooting. I find the 5D mark 2 to be fairly good, but it has its limitations, mainly pulling detail from shadows. If you're not shooting moving stuff at night then I would just use it. The 17-40mm is good, the other two lenses are just fine. Pretty good IQ but nothing special. Could probably swap them out for some primes that are more suited to whatever it is you shoot. If you really need zooms go for the f/2.8 ones.
>>4383508Well, I currently shoot as a hobbyist, but I aim to eventually become a professional.IQ is not a necessity right now, but as you've stated, my current gear struggles with pulling details from low-light shots and shadows.AF also feels kinda unreliable sometimes, when I attempt some panning or try wildlife, or even just people walking.I've tried a bunch o mirrorless cameras, and the flexibility in post, plus the quality in the pixels was much higher!
I have a 5dmkii with the 24-70 2,8 lens too I was looking at selling recently, but when I saw what they go for I decided to just keep it. Not worth the hassle of selling it for how little it's worth now. I know it's old, but it's still weird to me seeing that price when I know how much it cost way back when I bought it.It still takes great images though. So maybe just keep your favourite lens and sell the other two off if you want to sell some of it. You're not going to get much for the camera itself.
Is this thread an ad?
Wait to buy an a7iv. The a7v comes out early next year.
>>4383529Is this post an ad?
>>4383536No. I’m telling you to buy snoyboys barely used kit. Not to buy the a7v and actually give sony money.
>>4383529Or just get the A7iii when the a7v comes. Not losing much in terms of image quality.
>>4383507Buy a 1V
>>4383547>implying the a7iii will get cheaper
>>4383560Fair point. I'd recommend the Panny S5 original, but since it's lacking the phase detect AF it might suck to adapt DSLR lenses on that. Maybe A7ii would be good enough for OP?
>>4383562Neither. Z6II or pick up a ZF since used prices are heading towards $1500 and below. Better AF, color, and lenses vs panasonic. Better build, color, and ergos vs sony. The lenses vs sony are better and bigger in the midrange, as bad but cheaper in the bottom tier, and there is no prosumer tier like the f1.4 GMs, its just straight to pro. But, you get a mediocre pancake!On the other hand canon goes from consumer grade junk, i mean sovl, to ultrasharp flawless RF L(uxury) lenses with no intermediate so
>>4383567>Better AFYou sure about that? Panasonic phase detect AF has gotten really good.Otherwise I'd agree with you, on the value proposition. If OP has 1,5k$ to spend I can't think of a much better camera than Z6II (or the ZF, but ergo).
>>4383571Panasonic PDAF is on par with the first z6. There is no excuse for panasonics oversized, bad ergos, underperforming, and notoriously unreliable junk outside of the ultra low budget prosumer videography sphere. Nikon on the other hand makes cameras for photographers.
>>4383575trve. if panasnoy is up for consideration just get a cheap z5 so you can invest in nikon’s superior lenses. what does L mount have, sigma? lol. Z mount can also adapt leica M with focus confirmation (ZF) and no corner color shifts or sharpness loss (like what happens on sony’s overly thick IR filter). L mount ironically can’t.
>>4383575>>4383577Samefagging much?
>>4383581anything to beat down panasonic’s paid marketers here. anyways, /p/eopleplease do yourselves a favor, buy used nikon gear. Panasonics marketing team is here 24/7 saying please buy s5 new on amazon, please do g9ii tradein deal, s5ii bundle is on sale at b&h, but unless you are broke as fuck and NEED certain codecs and FF video they are simply bad cameras compared to better made, more capable, more ergonomic Nikon kit.
>>4383584>anyways /p/eopleew. cringe.I agreed with you on the Z6ii as the better value camera at that price point, and pointed out you're wrong about panasonic AF. As a very sane, and proper response, you start sperging and samefagging.
>>4383589No one should even give panasonic a chance. Imagine getting burned with a broken camera 2 years later or an s5 that drains its battery while off. Not worth it. Even sony is more reliable.
What happened /p/? It has been almost a decade, and it seems like higher iso apsc sensor tech froze. Has it plateaued?
>>4384717Sony let fuji and nikon borrow the nice DX sensors (xh2s, d7200) but didnt want to make their crop cameras better and lose full frame hobbyfags
>>4384717Yes. A decade later and all we have are good ibis, better video, and nice af
It would be helpful to know what you shoot. I’m using a 5D iii (very similar to you only a tad better auto focus) for all my studio work it has over 200k shot on it and it just keeps going. It’s been tethered to the same iMac for almost 10 years and is used almost daily. If you’re doing events, weddings, landscapes you probably want better AF and DR but for lots of paid work the 5D is still a great tool for the job.
>>4384722>good ibisgimmick feature, not useful to photography>better videouseless>nice afaf has been good enough since 2013
Is the time now to get whatever gear we can, whether new or used before the china tariffs go though and prices skyrocket to unpurchasable levels?
Leave panasonic system NOW
>>4384735No? Most camera shit I've ever seen is made in Japan, Vietnam or the Philippines
>>4384725I'm currently a hobbyist, but I'm looking for a better camera to eventually use professionally. The 5Dii is amazing, but sometimes you need that clean image or better AF. Like, sometimes I do wildlife and night photography and the old sensor makes it difficult to edit on LR. The resulting photos are usually noisy and unsharp.
>>4384757>night photography and the old sensor makes it difficult to edit on LR. The resulting photos are usually noisy and unsharp.use a tripod. I just saved you thousands of dollars. You're welcome.
>>4384737>leave panasonicI bought the s9 new cause I wanted a good "does everything good enough." It's served me well enough this far
>>4384760>"does everything good enough.">s9choose one
>>4384758Yeah, but I do street photography a lot and a tripod isn't very practical.There's something special about night photography without flash, so I don't want to limit myself to daytime.I used to have an EOS R, which was fine but ended up selling it because the tracking AF was unreliable. Then I tried an R6ii and the difference is huge.
>>4384757With this mindset you won’t ever go pro your the issue not the gear I can get super clear images a night with a 5D lol. The 5D ii has about the same noise as a Fuji XPRO2 and that’s a famous street photography camera lol
>>4384763Bro, I never said I can't take night photos but the difference is there and you know it. Gear is relevant for some situations and types of photography, such as wildlife.
>>4384765Idk you could get something newer, but I honestly don't think it's going to help that much for night photography. Maybe a stop or two at most. All your lenses are f/4, trying grabbing one of the f/2.8 lenses first or even getting a fast prime. But honestly it sounds like you just want something new just because you want something new and if so that's fine, you don't need to justify it. Just as long as you're not going broke buying stuff. It's okay to experiment and try new cameras out just because it's fun.
>>4384767I've got a few primes, which I use at night, such as the EF 40 f/2.8, EF 50 f/1.8 and EF 100 f/2.8L. It does the job, but perhaps I'm pixel peeping my photos too much...I think you're right, I was looking for a new camera for the psychological effect of having no limitations gear wise.
>>4384738My shitter Fuji is made in Indonesia. It now has a bleeding LCD screen and has erratic dials.
>>4384763Yeah if you underexpose at night, outdoors, and basically take photos of the lights. That doesn’t work indoors or in places without lights and flash is stupid.
>>4384855Even the 5D classic is decent in low light it’s a skill issue https://youtu.be/qQU5l5D5wLE?si=1kPUksDi0CiQqgrJ
>>4384860>”low light”>low ISOs in brightly lit bug streets, blurry pedestriansThis is low light by film standards. Is the skill issue refusing to travel to some overly bright asian slop market and living somewhere decent, being a decent person, instead of a street photographer?I don’t think you know what low light actually means for people who aren’t imitating 20th century leica owners 24/7. Low light is exclusive of good, purposeful photography. Low light is snapshits at ISO 25,600 1/250 because you’re doing dumb skateboard tricks with your friends at 9pm in a public park and phones keep fucking up the pictures>uh kevin can you stand still right under a light please - i need you to do this because going over iso 3200 is a skill issue. i can show you some chinatown creep photography videos for reference if it helps.
>>4384870we dont actually use cameras as cameras here budwe only take photos of rocks, leaves, and the backs of strangers heads. sometimes the sides. its art.
>>4384870>Slop>DecencyBy your standards no one was decent before the 80's, and the fact the dude didn't get mogged is example of bugs just minding their own businesses.Also agree that wasn't low-light
>>4384877Civility only goes up as time goes on. Street markets and walking areas are pretty primitive and easily harbor hidden problems like dog meat stalls and backdoor drug and human trafficking. Online markets and drone deliveries are cleaner, safer, and more effective and allow for trivial interception of illicit goods by police.
>>4383507Upgrade to an RF body and use the EF adapter. Budget will dictate what you buy, but you don't need to replace those lenses. An R6 or R6ii will give you the same resolution (little more for R6ii) but sharper (weak AA filter) with more DR and far better high ISO. Plus all the cool new features like AF improvements and IBIS.
>>4384880>think of how much money you’ll save by buying a $2500 camera for your old junk lenses instead of selling your pile of ewaste for a fuji, a prime, and the kit lens!>and then you can buy a $2500 new RF L zoom too!Gearfags be like “let me tell you how to keep spending as much as possible”ORRRRR stop pixel peeping and stop being a gear snob. Get a lightweight normal camera, a small prime, and a generally useful zoom. Degearfag your life. You do not need more than a 35mm f2.8 and 24-70 f4 to take good photos.
>>4384879>Civility only goes up as time goes on.>The policeTouch grass home boy
>>4384882Sorry your friends daquan apartmente and tyler-joe traylor got shot or beat up for refusing to show ID or comply with basic directions because they either felt bad about doing what they were told or it they had a warrant out for selling meth lol, but yes law and order are good things. I would actually be in favor of street photography if they helped solve crimes but they usually just shoot backs of heads.
>>4384881>angry poorfag is angry
>>4384887>you’re a poorfag, he says, as he spends well within the average credit limitCanonikony blobs are not status symbols. Get a leica SL blob if you wanna pull that.
>>4384888personally i dont take “poorfag” from someone who shops like they can only have one camera system. a rich man has a hasselblad 907x for fun, a leica also for fun, a nikon flagship for work, and a collection of film SLRs. a poor man has a canon flagship because its a jack of all trades and master of none. a crew cab, short bed pickup truck for the people who cant afford a summer car, winter car, and work van. a mascot for poorly masked poverty.
>>4384884Write in english next time nigger
>>4384888>reeeee don't use your existing excellent glass>sell it all and buy an apsc or mft with one prime!This was literally you. He already has good equipment, he asked about upgrading, the only thing he might want to upgrade is the body. He would be stupid to ditch the glass.
>>4384942>he hasAncient boomer blob ewaste that doesnt hold up to a fuji xt3 with the kit zoom. Only good for gross shit like wedding photography. Wedding photographers section 179 their entire kit and get it for free so if he were one, he wouldn’t be asking. This is the perfect opportunity to leave blobby wedding cameras behind. Compacts now exceed the quality of a 5div+24-70 f2.8 L.
>>4384892why would a rich man need a "work" camera tho?
>>4384959rich people buy "work" stuff so they can work one day a year and pretend they do things other than underage hookers and drugs
>>4384959To pretend to be normal and advertise his personal brand
>the quality in the pixels was much higher!Obvious troll is obvious. Still not obvious enough for the gearfags of /p/ evidently.
>>4384947>fuji apsc kit zoom is better than full frame L glassUsually this level of delusion requires mft.
My main camera is the GFX50SII. I'm thinking now wether I should get a b-roll camera that I bring everyday for not so serious photography. I can't decide between the X100VI or the Nikon Zf with 40mm (gonna be glued on the body). The Fuji is smaller and more light but I'm afraid I won't enjoy the apsc IQ. Nikon Zf looks damn cool and I love the focal length of the 40mm lens. And sample pictures look great.
>>4385693I functionally replaced my 50R with a Zf and haven't looked backbut I also still use my other Fuji's more oftenget the Zf
>>4385693The gfx50 is just fat full frame thanks to the ancient shit sensor, you might as well sell it, or shoot nothing else and remain ignorant.
>>4385093The ancient, 1st edition 24-70 l is actually pretty soft.
>>4385711>>4385715The GFX is my favorite camera. Love the incredible detail in prints and for my taste it resolved better than my previous A7IV.
>>4385740Of course its 50mp, so it will definitely be better than 33mp and very close to 61mp if the lenses are keeping up for all cameras, but sensor performance is the same as modern full frame. It can merely resolve as well with a lower quality lens. Dont touch a zf or a z7ii if you want it to stay your favorite.
