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>Secret Service location detail and sniper setup
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>>474218835
Nope.

Shooters position according to NBC.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rally-shooting-secret-service-identified-rooftop-security-flaw-rcna161783

The tree wasn't in the way.
Too bad, try a new angle.
Get it?
A new angle.
It's a pun.
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>>474218835
CNN never told me anything about tree being a factor in Trump falling and getting injured during commotion at a rally.
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>>474220014
NBC concedes the tree didn't obstruct the view of the counter snipers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rally-shooting-secret-service-identified-rooftop-security-flaw-rcna161783
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>>474218835
So how did they eventually hit him? Did the tree move after he started firing?
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>>474218835
There were 2 overwatch teams and the one in your gfx didn't actually shoot the guy
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>>474219679

drone record. begone, shill

body was moved to match narrative later
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>>474220175
The position of the shooter in OPs image is incorrect.

This is the correct position of the shooter, proven by video evidence, and conceded by the media.

The tree did not obstruct the counter snipers view.
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>>474220506
so the shooter knew the position of both snipers nests beforehand?
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>>474220506
Nope.

Mainstream media confirms the location of the shooter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rally-shooting-secret-service-identified-rooftop-security-flaw-rcna161783

Unobstructed by trees.
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>>474220325
There was also 2 ladders but who knows how he really got up there
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Sorry guys a tree was in the way. There is no way to prepare for that :)
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>>474220695
No.

The mainstream media concedes the tree did not obstruct the view of the counter snipers. The video evidence proves it.
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>>474218835
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>>474220539
Well now Im wondering why he didnt shoot from OPs position
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>>474220325
Could have hook jumped and capped him. Shouldn't pick Widowmaker if you don't know how to play as her.
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>>474220635
yes - it would appear thst way

all these shills trying to do damage control. too late fellas.
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>>474220663
If there's one place you can trust it's the mainstream media.
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>>474218835
Fuck you sure are stupid.
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>>474219679
>tree wasn't in the way
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>>474221515
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>>474220635
thats the only way this couldve played out the way it did. almost as if someone told him beforehand...funny that, no?
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>>474221243
It would have been a superior position.
However, its not where he was.

According to NBC.

Which is hardly covering for Trump.
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>>474220539
>position of the shooter
See :>>474221524
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>>474221484
NBC is most likely not lying for Trump.
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>>474219679
>>474220109
>>474220539
>>474220663
>>474220961
>>474221714
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>>474221773
>NBC is most likely not lying
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>>474221524
>>474221596
Not the correct position.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-rally-shooting-secret-service-identified-rooftop-security-flaw-rcna161783
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>>474220635
>shooter knew the position of both snipers nests beforehand
B I N G O
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>>474221902
For Trump.

NBC probably isn't lying for Trump.
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>>474221869
>glowniggers are here trying to pin the blame for the shooting on glowniggers allowing it to happen.

But, why?
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>>474218835
It was actually the sniper on the other roof that got him. Your own picture shows the tree in the way.
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>>474222040
>>474221940
You fucking idiot abo. There's proof in a photo of a dead retard that he was on the other side of the roof but because NBC said no you choose to ignore reality?
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>>474220635
are you suggesting he was a nu-lee harvey oswald who was supplied prior?

what's going on in the copa game right now btw?
is messi ok?
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>>474220663
Moron.
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>>474222184
That picture is disinformation.

The mainstream media has conceded the tree was not in the way.

The mainstream media doesn't have a history of lying for Trump.
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>>474218835

these images are retarded and show how much internet jpg detective work is happening here.

there was more than one sniper team, here's a 2nd team.
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>>474222225
You mean this proof?
>>474220961

Also.
>>474222127
>>glowniggers are here trying to pin the blame for the shooting on glowniggers allowing it to happen.
>But, why?
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>>474222258
Is that your closing argument?
Do you know my friends Jimmy and Jura?
I think you do.
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>>474222299
>I am looking at proof with my very own eyes
>Media: That's disinformation
>(you): That's disinformation
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>>474220681
He probably climbed up a ladder you fucking retarded leaf
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>>474222490
This proof?
>>474220961
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>>474218835
https://x.com/dc_draino/status/1812642041391915384
>>474033526
>>474033788
>>474033792
>>474053864
>>474135681
>>474137066
>>474152057
>>474198098
https://x.com/SharpFootball/status/1812265909727396107
https://x.com/coladoggxxx/status/1812285847921910241
https://x.com/YWNReporter/status/1812519354862305494
https://youtu.be/6UwWxJQN_sY?t=160
>>474032323
>>474021975
>>474123247 ty anon who edited down >>474066576
>>474136303
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>>474220961

the statement wasn't that the tree obscured the view, it's that the snipers were fixated on the treelines
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>>474222562
Dude zooms in, look at the perspective. Look at the dead nigger you braindead nigger
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>>474222357
https://youtu.be/L43Mjf_FxkA?t=26
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>>474218835
You forgot to include the stands which obstructed the shooters view and pushes him to the side more.
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Who would win?
4 trillion dollar government?
or
A tree?
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What was the distance for the shot?
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>>474220325
This anon has the correct placement. Amazing that the wrong versions are still going around.
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>>474222810
le memes aside, that's the only photo evidence i've seen of more than 1 sniper team since the dudes on the roof in the back are not the ones we've seen everywhere
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>>474222688
Look at the location of the blue light.

Checkmate.
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>>474220325
they should have taken up position on the shooter's roof as well, perfect additional overwatch position

fucking amateur hour at the SS or they are deliberately fucking around to get Trump killed
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>>474221940
https://x.com/the_real_fly/status/1812648958423937385
>>MUH MUH MUH MUH MUH MSM SAYS SO SO SO SO YOURE WRONG!!@!!!!1111111
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The shooter was just upset that trump cut obamas bbc funding
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>>474223089

it's not really because if that's where the shooter was, nobody on the ground would have seen him on the roof. he was closer to the edge and obstructed by trees from 1 of the teams, but the other team would have seen him
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I wanted to believe this but footage from the eventgoers shows him on the other end when the shooting starts.

The snipers had eyes on him, didnt act, and were even really startled when he started shooting...
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OP is a fed trying to make excuses for their failed assassination attempt.
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>>474223284
Got to be deliberately. They even pulled most of the agents to Jill biden's rally and left him with a limited detachment
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>>474223313
You are wrong.

The counter snipers had line of sight on the shooter.
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>>474223343
Yes they can see him - in this video
>>474220961
he is moving from the parking lot end towards the grassy end but he's still at the other end when he fires, and that's where he dies too.
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>>474223129
>Checkmate
i doubt you could checkmate a drooling vegetable
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>>474223388
See not everyone on /pol/ is a bot.
He was supposed to die.
That's why the counter snipers let him get his shots off.
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>>474223530
I'm about 1200.
I only just learned to stop hanging my queen every second game.

Be gentle.
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>>474223542
This
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>>474223117
those aren't snipers, they're both using red dots on risers
while a competent shooter could hit the would be assassin easily with those rifles, those guys pictured wouldn't do it for other stupid reasons

in any case, they're not the snipers you claim them to be
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>>474223500

he's closer to the edge is the point, they can see him and if he was in the middle of the roof they wouldn't be able to
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>>474218835
Imagine owned a based farm in Pennsylvania like this and working in the fields under the sun
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>>474223794
well yeah, he stays off the ridgeline until he's ready to shoot, then he moves up to peep over.
The point is, he is at the parking lot end of the building, not the grass end, and that's why the sniper team that has been shown in all the videos is looking around and adjusting their gear. It's the farther sniper team that takes the shot and kills him.
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>>474223492

look at this fuckin' comedian over here.
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>>474224155
Are you trying to say the light was bent?

The counter snipers had clear line of sight on the shooter.
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>>474224266
its a paid shilll brucw
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>>474224338
no Bruce 19 pbtid is the paid shill
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>>474224648
See.
>>474222127
>>glowniggers are here trying to pin the blame for the shooting on glowniggers allowing it to happen.
>But, why?
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>>474221714
NBC are retards
He absolutely was near the trees just by the trajectory of the guy in the crowd being shot and the forklift hose.
>>474223492
Tard take #2.
You do realize overwatch is for patrolling like 150 yards out they assumed that roof was covered by the local cops and FBI who were in charge of that perimeter. You can see the guy right before the shooting having to move and change his scope distance
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>>474224717
>He absolutely was near the trees
Sure.

It's just that the counter snipers had clear line of sight on the shooter.
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>>474222596
I didn't expect to see my posts in that.
I was just shitposting, ya'll - better not see myself on the TV.
Anyway, the fired secret service agent's name was Kerry O'Grady, for anyone wondering.

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/top-denver-secret-service-agent-apparently-loses-job-after-anti-trump-statement/
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>>474224717
>You do realize overwatch is for patrolling like 150 yards out they assumed that roof was covered by the local cops and FBI who were in charge of that perimeter.
Why would they do that? I am former zog bot ranger, explain why they would allow a security hole and not check on the people watching it
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>>474224839 21 pbtid with the same shilled narrative
>had clear line of sight on the shooter
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>>474225176
Yeah so therefore the secret service counter snipers allowed the shooter to take his shot.

Right?
That's why you're so sensitive about this.
Unless I'm mistaken.
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>>474218835
Nope, they should have put a team on that other roof but they didn't because Trump's security detail is understaffed.
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>>474225303
bruce they are failing to control the narrative and seething. a democrat acted on the call by biden and attempted to shoot Trump and take his life, it backfired on them. But tells us one thing
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>>474225083
Some retired SS explained it on media yesterday.
The local police coordinated by the FBI (not trustworthy) are responsible for the security perimeter outside the event (which is SS) up to a certain distance, so they were supposed to lock down the adjacent roof tops then Overwatch are there primarily to scan for threats outside that perimeter (he said 150 yards) but of course they can shoot some truck of peace speeding in or whatever else is needed.
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>>474223388
(You) are the 'fed' not me
stones, glass houses
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>>474225461
>a democrat
A registered republican, who donated to actblue, and appeared in a blackrock commercial.

Suspicious yet?
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>>474225003
Should probably put these together.
Glad I finally automated this down to a few keystrokes.
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>>474225585
> FBI (not trustworthy)
correct
But as overwatch, which i have done in combat zones is overwatch you watch it all. 150 yards is nothing. we know that
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>>474220506
How’d he get so far from the gun if he was shooting prone?
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>>474225698
wtf I just realize this is Carol Loennig, too.
Hmm...CL.
LC.
https://archive.is/FfNYD
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fwiw, erik prince says the shooter was downed by a USSS sniper 488 yards away. it seems to imply it was neither sniper teams on the roof as they were closer to 488 yards, but the photos don't provide any location for that shot
https://x.com/realErikDPrince/status/1812538250931642534
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>>474220635
i can see it being picrel
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>>474226178
>it was neither sniper teams on the roof
This.
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>>474226263
Someone said it before me but even if its fake, it's real. That's clearly what happened, he was told not to shoot.
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>>474226376
>he was told not to shoot.
100% that was an easy shot to make and he didn't make it till after the shooting started. it blows out the "he could'nT SeE hiM" shills.
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>>474226376
ok pine gap nigger
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>>474225303
>so therefore the secret service counter snipers allowed the shooter to take his shot.
nope
you are a faggot
the focus should not be on the ss snipers like you are pushing here, they did their job imo
the focus should be on who's job it was to keep those sheds secure and prevent access to their roof

now you have zero proof of the assertions you are making here and when called out on it you double down
the available proof is contrary to the garbage allegations your are trying to make
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>>474226633
damn you glowniggers need to be shot in the face by niggers
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>>474220635
There's an additional problem.
There's just a handful of roofs in the area.
That SS wouldn't have a single person on the roof where the shooter was is absurd.
Even a hitman game would have placed some unit patrolling the roof in an equivalent level, it's just common sense.
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>>474225759
Yes but he said their primary mission for SS detail is to watch outside the established perimeter because there is supposed to be FBI and zogbots covering those areas unless they get told otherwise and you can see that one guy reacting/moving and adjusting his shit right before the shooting. Media claims cops radioed there was a suss person but didn't say he was armed until last few seconds before it started.
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>>474226633
See.
>>474222127
>>glowniggers are here trying to pin the blame for the shooting on glowniggers allowing it to happen.
>But, why?
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>>474226866
its overwatch bro. you cover it all, my 8 combat tours prove that. SS was told to stand down. only reason that dude was allowed on the roof.
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Another way to look at this where was the telehandler with the speakers in relation to trump. He shot out the hydraulic line on that thing and it sprayed oil all over the place.
>0:17
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1720917348980161.webm
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>>474218835
>directly right of the stage
then how did someone behind Trump get hit and killed by the bullet that grazed Trump? Bullets don't just change directions 90 degrees after hitting an ear and whizzing past.
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>>474227031
im a former zogbot and i agree with this zogbot, i also do long range precision shooting and i can probably hit 150 yards with my five seven pistol, thats basically a close engagement right there and a human is a huge target theres no way that sniper pair with 24x optics on precision rifles didnt see him skylined on that roof from easy standing rifle engagement distance
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>>474227278
former* please sir, i was dumb and young. then spent 15 years doing it
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>>474227085
Only the bullet that killed JFK.

This is pure speculation, however, in the case of JFK. There was a patsy no one expected to make the shot, then there were CIA snipers to make sure the job got done.

Something similar could have been the case here, although again, purely speculation.
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>>474226857
This is the broader question, why SS protocol aka command didn't secure all buildings in the American Glass Research compound for the rally event.
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>>474227549
Probably the same reason NORAD was told to stand down on 9/11.
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>>474227414
>sir
i worked for a living damnit
but yeah the lies worked on us thats why we can see the shit they pull on normies so well, also we all saw corruption at the lowest level and up to the regiment/division level so imagine what kind of shit goes down in DC or the pentagon lol
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>>474227031
They never explained how he got the rifle there either, he parked a van in a nearby residential area then walked there with it somehow not being noticed.
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>>474227777
Checked.

Faith and repentance.
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>>474227821
if i wanted to do that i would break the AR down into upper and lower and put it in a shoulder bag or some shit
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>>474227857
i repent for a lot of shit and want to punish the jew
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>>474227865
And wear high vis. That could have got him on the roof with a large toolbag without much suspicion.
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>>474227777
checked and stand corrected.
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>>474227975
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>>474227821

On the who owns the bulding >>474186328 thread
an anon posted webm >>474223450 of him crawling up the roof, witnesses said he had it slung
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>>474227549
Because it could be as simple that AGR is private property and this is a political rally nearby.
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>>474220325
>eyewitness (bald)
Excellent addition to the information. Very necessary.
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>>474219679
the blood trail doesn't match your image
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Guess the bots have moved on now.
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>>474227044
Both telehandlers visible in this vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYJ0FBSE4Bc
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>>474220635
Nah the kid was an idiot. Anyone who would be capable and seriously planned this attack would have gone a farther distance and used object masking for cover.

At a worst case minimum I would have stayed on the other side of the roof, obstructing my person from counterfire.
Kid was just stupid, inexperienced, all emotion and quick action, lacking forethought.
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>>474228300
Doesn't matter the SS has a serious mission when former presidents visit, see >>474186328 for the ownership + access
it's not somehow 'off limits' due to separate ownership, it's in close proximity
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The snipers weren't SS
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>>474228564 31 pbtid
apart from (You)
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>>474218835
this is a FAKE image being spread by Russian propaganda bots
ignore and close the thread
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>>474228649
Their mission is always serious but their authority is not absolute. They cannot commandeer private property and would especially not during a political event.
We'll find out what the story is soon enough.
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>>474228660
Yes the ones in the rooftop vid were
but they weren't the team that delivered killshot
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>>474228802
You are wrong.
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>>474218835
I bet locals knew you could either get into the fairgrounds or listen to concerts there from those buildings. picrel
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>>474228881
I assure you I'm not
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>>474228708
I post here a lot.
Is this the first time we have spoken?
Do you know my name?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/maps-show-location-of-trump-and-gunman-at-pennsylvania-rally-shooting/ar-BB1pXO3z
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>>474225083

If they don't have the manpower they're supposed to work with local law enforcement. Apparently Biden had cut Trump's detail down according to other reports.

There were cops patrolling the crowd on the outskirts that had public. No, it's not the same as fixed positions guarding elevation that was supposed to be secured.
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>>474229189
he did. but Nigel i am saying the truth, if lacking manpower then overwatch should be on high alert to make up for it
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>>474228708
Oh no no no no no no no.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-shooting-secret-service-investigating-how-gunman-was-able-to-get-so-close/69d2a570-a9dd-4b99-b53a-3b2a9de70319
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>>474229398
Forgot pic.
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>>474218835
How are those angles possible if the world is flat?
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>>474227044
checked and good eye, had not noticed that before. seems like he had 5 shots and most were errant.
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>>474229504
Those angles arent correct.
See.
>>474229450
Per 9 news.
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>>474229450
Those dots are way too big.
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>>474229370

100% and don't they use Drones now, especially when planning the site and perimeter? Maybe not if they'd done it before last rally. In any event the site was breached that access to it was absurd.

Public warned and spotted the shooter prior. Not enough communication Cop to the Service.
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>>474229450
shooter appears to have been about where your first O of shooter is.
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>>474220109
>counter snipers
i'd prefer you use the term "counter poppers". we need to be really level headed now all of a sudden.
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>>474227044
Yeah that's lucky the lift just lowered the speakers instead of tipping over on the audience.
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>>474228802
They could have at least flown a drone to watch the roof tops or scrapped the event if the company said no you can't put security here.
Don't they also have ballistics shields to cover one direction if needed like when Trump went to India (pic related)
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>>474229670
No matter where the shooter was in that dot, the counter snipers had a clear line of sight on him.

That's why the sniper was eyeing down his sight at the shooter, that's why Trump kept looking at the counter snipers, that's why Trump turned his head.

The world is a funny place.
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>>474229053
>hello fellow wns
>[msnbc url]
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>>474230045
explain this >>474228531
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>>474229053
are you the Australian hooker ditcher?
because if so I DO know your name
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>>474230045 36 pbtid
>"i post here a lot"
>Lemme tellyuhnpal how things work yon these 4chan parts
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>>474226263
out of all of the great comprehensive theory threads on /pol/ yesterday THIS is the shitty fucking larp that goes viral?
you have got to be fucking kidding me
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>>474230042
In hindsight more could be done and no doubt someone, probably many someones, failed. What I'm certain of is that a security plan had to be developed, that it would include those buildings, and mitigations/controls in place. Then, that site plan is getting reviewed by supervisors. Obviously it failed but the chances we are in a universe where USSS just didn't know someone could come from that way is zero.
Stage armor is rarely used because Staff hates how it looks. USSS doesn't get to drive the bus every time.
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>>474230743
18 glownigger posts later
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glowies do not like this topic, spinning valiantly
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>>474218835
If true there really is a competency crisis. Never done anything related to bodyguard or military but the first thing I would check on setting up is clear line of sight to every rooftop
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>>474230879 11 pbtid
>8 com*bot* tours later
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>>474231359
i love how glowniggers need to defend pedo's
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It was a set up
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>>474229798
of course
that faggot with a gaping anus is trying to troll
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>>474230596
What's the source on your picture?

Taking for granted that its true, maybe he tried to run for the trees after he shot, but I'd still like a source.

For example this one.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-shooting-secret-service-investigating-how-gunman-was-able-to-get-so-close/69d2a570-a9dd-4b99-b53a-3b2a9de70319
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>>474231359
No ones buying it fren.
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>>474220635
Yeah, someone leaked the secret service's deployment.
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>>474231755
>No ones buying it fren.
of course they are not
your posts are garbage and everyone can smell it
close your legs faggot
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>>474219679
Naah dude. Doesn’t work
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>>474231989
What does the work?

>>474231896
Hi Shifter.
Remeber how last night I asked you to remember me?
Do you, remember me?
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>>474228300
>>474228802
If they weren't able to obtain access to all surrounding roofs, why did they go on with the event?
It's not like it "had" to be held there as opposed to some other location.
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>>474231714
>maybe he tried to run for the trees after he shot
Actually that perfectly explains why the gun ends up metres away from him

However, like I said, I'd still like a source on the pic. Everyone has seen what AI can do to images.
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>>474228531
Why are they saying he's on the right side and not the left side of this roof from this perspective?
Seems pretty clear that the left position was more obscured from the counter-snipers and would provide the more perfectly perpendicular bullet trajectory captured on camera.
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>>474232088
>What does the work?
your shitty images trying to convince anyone that the shooters location was different to where he actually was
every image of the dead shooter and that shitty phone vid all show the shooter in a location different to the location you suggest he fired from
keep going though
make some more images with big dots
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>>474232350
See.
>>474231714
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staget and gay!
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>>474232422
I meant what doesn't work.
Machines can't into nuance.

Anyway, Shifter. The post I addressed ylto you was,
>do you remember talking to me last night?
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>>474218835
>concession road
Kek. What did they mean by this?
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>>474232422
Also see.
>>474232322
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they are trying really hard to obfuscate exactly where the shooter was.
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>>474231714
I know this might surprise you, but the mainstream news doesn't care if the dots are precise. They just want a pretty picture.
Team to Trump's left most likely took out the perp, as team to Trump's right was most likely blocked by the tree.
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>>474232440
I think they're mistaken. The guy was on the left side of the roof with the tree between him and the counter-snipers.
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>>474225439
That's some fucking unparalleled chutzpah to ACTUALLY DEFEND a series of decisions that left the PRIMARY PERCH unprotected.
Jesus, a 5th grader would instantly recognize this fact.
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>>474225800
Get shot, start rolling in shock/pain. Get shot some more, die. Try and use your brain for once.
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>>474232741
>most likely blocked by the tree.
No.

You don't have a source to corroborate that. No one outside /pol/ is claiming it.

Notice how the gun is over six feet away from him? It implies he was in motion while he was shot, or he threw the gun away from him after shooting.

I'm too good at this for my own good.
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>>474232701
>trying really hard to obfuscate exactly where the shooter was
Anonymous ID: wMRBgNrb Australia flag has 43 pbtid worth itt
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>>474232810
of course he was
all the available evidence shows this
that faggot is trying to gaslight everyone
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>>474232810
See.
>>474232994
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>>474233008
I post here a lot.
Will you claim this the first time we've ever spoken?

I remember you.
Do you remember me?
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>>474218835
>Concession Road
The cheeky glowniggers meant for him to be dead.
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>>474232994
Wasn't he Headshot?
It's difficult to believe any scenario that places such separation between him and the perfectly parallel rifle.
I'm willing to bet that there is more spectator video to be seen that could prove or disprove that.
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>>474220325
>the one in your gfx didn't actually shoot the guy
I agree
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>>474232994
If this was the position he was in when he shot.

Then this footage is impossible.
>>474220961

After he fired, he got up and ran for cover, he was shot while running and the carried on the momentum he was carrying to end up metres away from his body.

I'm the world's greatest detective who the fuck are you?
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>>474233293
>It's difficult to believe any scenario that places such separation between him and the perfectly parallel rifle.
Momentum.
It's physics.

The position the shooter fired from was not the position he was in when he was shot.

See.
>>474233363
>I'm the world's greatest detective who the fuck are you?
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>>474233363 Australia flag 47 pbtid
if (You) get paid by the post prepare not to receive a check this week
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>>474229508
my take: first shot was the frustrating ear hit-miss, then he hammed on the trigger trying to save it and got blasted while still on the scope. lost his cool in the moment and the grouping went to shit. I bet you the tractor thingy was the final shot and the furthest out in the grouping.
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>>474233500
See.
>>474222127
>>glowniggers are here trying to pin the blame for the shooting on glowniggers allowing it to happen.
>But, why?

No one's even attempted to answer it.
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>>474233590
they cant answer it bruce. they have a narrative to push
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>>474233590
I notice there's one key post early (first dozen replies) itt (You) haven't replied to
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>>474218835
Picrel shows the body, with tree line in frame, looks like he was a at least close to the trees if not covered behind it
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>>474233733
and you still haven't explained your glownigger shilling
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>>474232994
>You don't have a source to corroborate that. No one outside /pol/ is claiming it.
This is from yesterday. Stop being a moron.
https://x.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1812453261409947788
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>>474231714
It's shown on my Japanese TV news. It's a program by TBS, so I don't think they would fake it
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>>474233471
>Momentum.
The rifle is at least 8 to 10 feet away.
What's your hypothesis as to SOURCE of momentum, ie was he moving Left to Right in this better photo >>474221692
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>>474233791 14 pbtid
not a good look, Mr. 8 com*bot* tours later aside from (You)r fistbumping pal
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>>474234003
>glownigger deflects from its failed attempt to kill Trump
So when you where calling for the death of Trump due to the Supreme Court did you think we would be like you jews and forget it?
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>>474223500
His view of Trump is obstructed by the bleachers on Trumps right as he's facing the crowd. The shooter has to move along the building away from the tree's for a better angle, he still kills that poor bastard in the volley of shots though.
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>>474233749
See.
>>474233363
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>>474234307 15 pbtid
>'calling for the death'
>'you jews'
the fact that (You) and 49 pbtid Australia flag have been fist(bump)ing each other on this assignment topic tells us all we need to know.
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>>474233997
>What's your hypothesis as to SOURCE of momentum
He was running for cover.
Was I not clear?
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>>474234493
yawn glowniggers suck at this. and we pay you
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>>474234493
You're the one covering for the Secret Service, friend.
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>>474220506
why isn't there a lot more blood running down that slanted roof?
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>>474234590
>>474234601
kek
ngmi
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(due to popular demand)I'll be reposting this tomorrow.
be here or be glowing
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>>474234624
because the wound was a headshot and you stop bleeding when your ded
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>>474234661
no you glowniggers have decided we talk now with guns. Great job as niggers kill leftists more
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>>474234624
supposedly such a hot day that he bled out and it dried almost immediately
that's what I've seen/heard people say
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>>474234752
>incitement to violence
>'do something'
well done agent ziofellator
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>>474234661
Is that your closing argument?
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>>474234861
you incident the violence, congrats glownigger
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what a glowing topic
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>>474219679
Exactly, picrel wouldn't have been captured if the BlackRock assassin was so far back on the roof to be obscured by the faggot tree.
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>>474234897 Australia flag 53 pbtid no one knows why
>>474234915 18 pbtid botshill
>'incident'[sic]
Keep digging it needs to be deeper
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>>474218835
How did the bullet pierce one of his ears and then hit someone in the stands behind him? Is it a JFK magic bullet scenario?
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>>474235028
>32 pbtid
glownigger seething
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>>474232994
Is that ladder not a permanent building fixture? What the fuck?
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>>474234984
Yes.

Thanks friend. Something was bothering me about the conflicting pictures. It makes sense now. Maybe someone figured it out before me. That's the beauty of websites like this. It's always a group project.
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>>474223284
Do they have the right to just tell someone “we’re coming onto your property to surveil the rally” or do they need them to agree?
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>>474235077
checked, keep going. It's in NSA's and UNIT8200's file
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>>474235167
cool then you know i will shot a glownigger like you in the face thanks to you liking assassinations
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>>474235080
I'm a tradie and roof access is always locked up or inaccessible because its a prime spot to break in. A couple years ago a few guys did that on a shopping centre we were extending. Got onto the roof, inside a jewellery shop then back out onto the roof. They never got caught. We were all kind of impressed.
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>>474234547
>Was I not clear?
No, you aren't being clear or consistent.
Here >>474219679 you cite that Shooter was on the Grassy Side.
Here >>474232994 you hypothesize that he was running, away from the Grassy Side where he made his shots, while remaining near the highest spot of the roof, so as to ensure being hit by return sniper fire?

Dubious
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>>474223284
My guess is they didn't have enough personnel to cover all areas.
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>>474235167
I'm sorry, come again?
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>>474235259 20 pbtid
>more incitement to violence
Keep digging that chasm
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>>474230045
>that's why Trump kept looking at the counter snipers, that's why Trump turned his head.
he already explained he was looking at the infographic on display while giving his speech
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>>474235522 Australia flag 56 pbtid out of 230 itt
c'mon tradie keep up.
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>>474235485
Yeah, he took his shots, then ran for cover.

The position he shot from, was not the position he died in. I've proven that beyond any reasonable doubt.

As far as I'm aware I'm the first civilian in the world to figure that out. I do it for free.
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they really do not like this topic
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>>474235524
oh noes! you gonna try to kill me next?
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>>474234984
youre not accounting for the differences in elevations in the area ,,, hills mound up and down all over the venue and the adjacent site
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>>474235608
This is a Large Language Model if anyone is wondering why it doesn't make sense.
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>>474235658 botshill 21 pbtid
>incitement to violence itt ×5
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>>474235686 58 pbtid out of 240 itt
(You) are the gpt that needs to be reprogrammed
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>>474235763
>glownigger avoids the answer
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>>474235040
can you pin point with evidence where in the stands the people were shot?
that yellow crane thing in the bottom right holding up the speakers was hit and that was on trumps left
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>>474235631
>I've proven that beyond any reasonable doubt.
except you haven't
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>>474235824 botshill 22 pbtid
>another nonsensical grammatically-aborted splat
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>>474235906
Yes I have.

This video footage.
>>474220961

Is incompatible with this image.
>>474232994

Unless the position he died in, wasn't the position he took his shots in.
Q.E.D
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>>474235938
wow racist nigger lover? let me guess you know i am White and would never hold a nigger to those standards
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>>474228802
Then they should have found a better spot.
This whole thing makes me wonder if never-trumpers or blackmailed people in the SS have been talking with MKultra glowniggers.
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>>474232936
>people start rolling when they get shot by a .300 caliber as if it was some minor injury
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Two questions:
- Why is the shooters location that important? It's pretty clear this is gross USSS incompetence either way you slice it.
- If he started shooting at Trump while covered by trees from the counter sniper team... then how did the counter snipers take him out? They didn't have time to relocate...
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>>474233749
>>474221524
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>>474236078 23 pbtid botshill GPT
>hello fellow /pol/ racists
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>>474236437
glownigger is scared military veterans are talking
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>>474236356
See.
>>474236050
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>>474236117
Doesn't work that way. Service doesn't pick the venue.
Nor run the teleprompter or write the speeches as I've seen people suggest.
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>>474236050
>Yes I have.
>This video footage.
what is perspective
you clearly see even with the shitty cam and the zoomed in perspective he is at the very least past the centre of the building well away from the location you are shilling

you are trying to convince us that the shooter climbed up the ladder onto the roof then crawled all the way to the other end of the building out from the cover the trees provided, took his shots then got up and ran back and was hit and his body landed in a position consistent with the prone position he was in when he took the shots?
lmao
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>>474236302
>is the shooters location that important
well if the 60 pbtid Australia flag shill is to be believed, the original 'shooter perch' location of the deceased ended up almost 100 feet east on the opposite half of the building, how'd he do that?
Levitation I presume
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>>474236874
>what is perspective
You tell me.
See this image.
>>474232994
Tell me how people on the ground, on the grassy side, got video footage of him.

You want to do the maths together? It's a pretty simple angular equation.
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>>474218835
Why wouldn’t the ss have snipers on all those roofs, it’s absurd.
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>>474236874
i could have shot a full mag in him from the ss position
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Has Trump ever had a rally here in the past? The shooter might have been very familiar with the spot as a local and when the location was announced he knew exactly where he could pull it off.
Wellington used to say that about Waterloo. It was a plot of high ground he remembered and kept in his backpocket to create a trap for Napoleon.
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>>474237016
>how'd he do that?
With his legs?
Why do you assume he levitated?
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>>474236515 24 pbtid roboshill
>8 com*bot* tours
>repeated incitement to violence
>gibberish 'hello muh fellow raycists'
>Lemme tellya how 'tings work round dees 4chunny parts, pal

get it reprogrammed
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>>474237180
why you decided you glowniggers want to talk with guns not me. Scared?
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>>474237031
>tell me how people on the ground, on the grassy side, got video footage of him.
because they were in an elevated location compared to the base of the building and at distance far enough away to observe him dumb dumb
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>>474237064
>Trump ever had a rally here in the past
yes

>shooter might have been familiar
sure he was 'familiar' with the location but he was also only 20 years old.
>exactly where
Not on/within the site itself. Nor what the exact layout of the stage setup, SS detail rooftop locations etc. were, without some insider of the SS or LE tipping him off in advance.
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>>474218835
Fucking shooter had better visual, better angle and better cover than the fucking agents themselves, if this wasn't a set up whoever allowed this stage to happen is a fucking retard and should be discharged dishonorably from whatever rent a cop agency they got them from.
I don't know shit about counter insurgency tactics and even I can see the fucking holes in this set up
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>>474237055
no kidding. I understand government workers can be incompetent but you cannot be THIS incompetent on accident.
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>>474237016
I see what's happening now. Anon's comment made it clear finally: >>474235663
For whatever reason the buildings are in a slight depression so the dude who made this film >>474220961 is actually a bit higher than ground floor level. Also he's filming at an angle between the buildings. That's how he's able to see so much of the sniper's body. Unfortunately gmaps does not show such minor elevation changes well (or at all) hence all the confusion.
Sniper (intentionally or not) was blocked by trees at least while getting set up for the shot (he belly flops twice to readjust lmao).
Wonder who killed him then if at least one team providing overwatch had LOS blocked...

Still dunno why the fuck it matters exactly where on the roof he was positioned though.
>>474237084
He died where he lay almost immediately after firing 3 shots retard. He had no time to move.
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>>474237479
SS ought have had a sniper team on the roof that shooter nested
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Are ROE different for Candidates if they aren’t the President? How else do we explain woeful incompetence? Has to be that or DEI
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>>474237632
>who killed him then
Not the team in my OP pic

It was : >>474220325
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>>474237265
>they were in an elevated location
On the grass?

Watch again.
>>474220961
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>>474237640
Allegedly a cop climbed up, saw the sniper who pointed his rifle at the cop, so cop immediately backed off lmao.
America's cops are the bravest out there!
>>474237671
That's secret info, buck-o. I guess someone was afraid of an embarrassment if a dumb (but innocent) dude got shot up so they ordered snipers to hold.
>>474237727
Oh ok there were TWO sets of snipers like in this pic: >>474226263 but it was the second pair who had LOS and took the shot.

So then the question is whether they really were stopped from acting immediately or if they also fucked up and only saw him once he started firing?

Thanks for actually answering my questions btw.
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>>474226376
doesn't matter. it's unprovable. There's too much actual and circumstantial evidence in the media. Stop well poisoning
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>>474237883
>On the grass?
yes , you can even see the back of the retaining wall before the sheds
try again dumb dumb
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>>474238114
The grass is in an elevated location?
Watch it again, the grass is at ground level, friend.

You need a new angle.
It's still a pun.
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>>474237883
Yeah, the camera guide is on an elevated location as compared to the building the shooter is on. Notice how you can't see the foundation of the building the shooter is on... because it's covered by a small hill on which the Trump supporters are located.
This, plus the angle of the footage (between buildings, not perpendicular) allowed them to notice the SINPA.
But please, proceed to schizo rant how it's all a conspiracy of.... ??????
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>>474238220
>the camera guide is on an elevated location
Standing on the grass?
At ground level?
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>>474237640
i attended university during a presidential debate years ago. They had snipers on every rooftop. You could see them clearly. They weren't "covering" anything. They had a presence at every high point. Now, this is a debate where both candidates were in the same place, but the government loves to spend money. The "muh" resources argument should never work for security.
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>>474233562

Yeah, and when the first round hit hit from the countersniper it hurt so bad the last thing he did before he dies was roll over and fling his rifle away from him,
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>>474238215
faggot
yes you are a faggot
you can even see the other end of the roof in the video
fucking retard
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>>474238220
While we are doing the math.
Care to explain how his rifle ended up metres away from him to the side?

I can.

An object in motion will stay in motion unless acted on by a force.

Force = Mass × Acceleration.
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>>474238403
>faggot
Is that your closing argument?
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>>474238295
Look at this pic: >>474235663
Notice how you can see the cement foundation of the "center" building (the one that was closest to the video guy) but you CAN'T see the foundation of the building used by the sniper.
Why is that?
Because the terrain descends a bit for the foundation of the rightmost building. This means the video guy was HIGHER than the foundation of that building given his location.
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>>474238537
You want to do the math?
It's not complex.
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>>474237671
A protectee is a protectee and use of deadly force in self defense of self or others is always authorized.
>opportunity, intent, capability
What is different, very different, is the level of support given to no-POTUS protectees. POTUS events/missions are massive undertakings where literally nothing is spared, and there can be upwards of 10+ going at once. Simply not feasible to do for everyone Service protects.
As you go down the pole, and formers aren't super high, more and more has to be load-shed to local departments.
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>>474238537
>>474238792
We just need some rough heights.
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>>474238476
first thing they did when they got close was kick away his weapon
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>>474238962
Then left it on the roof?
Maybe.
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>>474238001
Meow!
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>>474238476
>how his rifle ended up metres away from him to the side
SWAT who came up took his rifle from his dead hands as standard disarm. Then they left it there because crime scene.
If he was running, how did the rifle end up lying so neatly along a roof groove and didn't get flung from his hands instead?
>>474238886
Nice pic, bro, I can also draw whatever bullshit with no sense of scale.
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>>474238476

I think it's possible that the shooters last action was to fling his rifle away from himself after feeling the security team's first bullet rip through his body.
Like he was trying to say "Im sorry stop shooting me!" in fear and panic realizing how badly he had fucked up.
Something like that. Desperately hoping in vain that he could maybe live if he demonstrated he was no longer a threat.
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>>474239093
>If he was running, how did the rifle end up lying so neatly along a roof groove
Because of the roof sheeting.
The ridges are 40-60mm high.
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>>474239093
>no sense of scale.
That's why I sad we needed some rough heights. You don't want to do the maths, do you?
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>>474239235
And? He would have fallen with his whole weight and the rifle would have gone flying. The only way the rifle would have neatly fallen like that is if the earth is flat.
>>474239198
Holy shit it's the schizo party here now.
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>>474219679
i love how theres a huge forest with perfect cover literally 5 feet away he could have used but he chose the roof out in the open in the most obvious place possible instead
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>>474239397
>the earth is flat.
Is that your closing argument?
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>>474218835
Dumb retarded faggot nigger. He was on the opposite end of the roof, as seen by his corpse unless it dragged itself there at some point after being killed.
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>>474239437
Not a good choice was it.
Makes the secret service look complicit.
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>>474239690
>Makes the secret service look complicit.
they were
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>>474239772
Exactly.
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Wow I did post too much itt.
Well at least we learned things.
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>>474239914
you got glowniggers seething
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>>474219679
Thats wrong. You can confirm this by looking at the officers standing over the shooters dead body. They are much, much further down the roof near the tree.
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>>474239914 Australia flag 76 pbtid
>>474239999 28 pbtid botshill
>you got glowniggers
fistbumping
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>>474240388
>46 pbtid glownigger posts defending me being able to shot him now
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>>474238350
No matter how one looks at Butler July 13th it was a major security fuckup. Swiss cheese
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>>474239772
i think thats what they were shooting for
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>>474240440 29 pbtid gpt bot
>"shot[sic] him
>incitement to violence a dozen times

get that gpt recoded
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>>474240587
what shooting Trump wasn't enough for you glowniggers?
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>>474233363
You are such a dumb cunt. Welcome to Field of View.
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>>474240718
glownigger forgets the thread he is in
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>>474236543
You are a fucking embarrasment to Australians, and thats saying something.
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>>474240778
That's your closing argument, then.
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>>474240778
sucking dick is a aussie thing glownigger and you suck alot of dick
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>>474240771
hush little simp

>>474238528
my closing argument is which firing position would the shooter be in to hit the hydraulic line on the crane?

thank you for playing
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>>474238001
>the question is whether they really were stopped from acting immediately or if they also fucked up and only saw him once he started firing?

Perhaps the second team was stationed to oversee different directions than the first team. and since team 1 had no LOS, it was up to team 2 to confirm LOS, and then 1-3 seconds to reposition and take the shots (which explains the slight delay between the shots)
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>>474241311
>sucking dick is a aussie
and yet you are slurping so much dick in this thread
are you aussie too?
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>>474241353
same one he was in for the rest nigger lover
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>>474218835
bump for interest
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>>474239567
My closing argument is that you are a retarded abbo nigger.

Found the image that explains the rifle. Officer on the right is pulling it from the shooter's hand. The beige part is the shooter's arm and the officer is pulling away the black rifle.
>>474241361
There has been zero photo evidence of a second team, anon.
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>>474241361
This would indicate tho, that team 1 simply fucked up with their positioning
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>>474241416
no i am just pointing out you glowniggers will be shit in the face now, simple as
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>>474241353
Either one.
Obviously.
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>>474239397

Wrong. Long objects, like boards or pipes or rifles will have a tendency to settle in the grooves of corrugated roofs like that.

But that's another theory..maybe he had gotten up and was moving when he was shot and the rifles went flying when he went down...
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>>474241459
>zero photo evidence of a second team, anon
except this hypothetical map >>474220325
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>>474241459
>look at this pixel.
Black gloves?
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>>474241541
only one position puts the crane in line of fire
you are done
go troll another thread
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>>474241640
>only one position puts the crane in line of fire
Have you ever shot a gun?
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>>474241640
>glownigger cant into shooting
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>>474241677
Yeah I grew up on a farm with guns, maybe that's the difference.
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>>474241674
only one position puts the crane in line of fire
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>>474241710
>guns can only shopt in one direction.
No.
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>>474241710
its a roof top its in the line of fire glownigger, but i will use that line thanks to you
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>>474241416
>are you aussie too
He's been fistbumping his 78 pbtid Australia flag all the way, two glowniggers in a pod

>>474241457
too late we're over 300
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>>474241619
How is a mspaint pic evidence of anything?
>>474241635
I have pixels; you have a shitty pen drawing and your thumb up your own ass.
No, those are not gloves. That's the pistol grip of the rifle in the shooter's clenched hand. Pic rel: look at the hand of the guy kneeling between two other dudes in fatigues.
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>>474241773
only one position puts the crane in the line of fire.
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>>474241791
glownigger when you come out i am raping you
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>>474241459
>There has been zero photo evidence of a second team, anon.

I am pretty certain that it was reported that there was two USSS counter-sniper teams and two local police counter-sniper teams.
I definitely read it in a few articles that said so from like CNN and stuff.

Please anons do correct me if im wrong, I don't wanna spread misinformation.
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>>474241832
>Nuh uh
Yeah huh
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>>474241491 36 pbtid gpt shillbot
>attempt dozen at incitement to violence
>'shit[sic] in the face now'

get it recoded rajneesh
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>>474241855 37 pbtid broken shillbot boltthrowing
k keep us posted rajneesh
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>>474241939
>glownigger with 51 pdtid can't say nigger so no lube when i rape you i hear
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>>474241864
This thread is almost dead, but we'd need to track down a source (pic or, worse, an article). I'm operating on the idea that there was only one team and they had enough LOS to notice the shooter. Maybe not immediately, but if they were the ones to kill him then they also needed LOS to him.
>>474241939
That's pretty funny coming from a dude with 52 PBTID
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>>474240628
>shooting Trump
(You) did that, we already know but thank for the admission
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>>474242041
>pretty funny
It's my OP and I get to bump it as often and whatever manner desired
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>>474242097
kek glownigger still cant say nigger
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>>474242041
>source (pic

Here : >>474220325
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>>474242151 39 pbtid gpt shillbot
(You) lose glownigger rajneeshj
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>>474242041
An anon shared this

possible location for team 2



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