>west side of building (blue dot—according to corporate media narrative)>east side of building (red dot—where shooters body was found/imaged in multiple drone overhead footage)? well /pol/
>west side of building—corporate media narrative
>>474405807
>>474405807>>474405844>west side of building—corporate media narrative
>east side of building—where shooter's body found
>>474405944
>>474405944>>474405984>east side of building—where shooter's body found
>>474405685He was around the back middle of the building about 90 seconds prior to the shooting began. He had to edge around to find a clear angle that wasn't obstructed by the stand.
>>474406092>He was around the back middle of the building about 90 seconds prior to the shooting began>"back middle of the building"What is ^that supposed to mean?according to local law enforcement reports the shooter was *on the roof* of the building 25 minutes (or more) prior to the assassin's shots.are (You) asserting that he got back _down_ off of the roof of the building, then re-ascended to the roof of the building "90 seconds prior"?From *where* were the assassin's 8 shots fired :>west side of building roof (blue dot)>east side of building roof (red dot)
>>474405685staged and gay!
This
>>474405944So there is video of the shooter laying down before the shot on the west side of the building but he was likely standing and moving before the shot on trump. Im sure math experts at the scene will be able to calculate his actual position at the time the first shot was fired.
>>474407056>>474407158(yes (You)r picrel indicates _east_ side of building, where body discovered)From *where* were the assassin's 8 shots fired :>west side of building roof (blue dot)>east side of building roof (red dot)
>>474407441He didn’t fire 8 shots, retard
>>474407188>video of the shooter laying down before the shot on the west side>west side(You) sure about that?those videos (yes I've seen them so have many anons) are showing him on the *WEST* side of the roof?Look at anon's collage picrel >>474407158are those the same view, and roof location, as the video (You) refer to?One thing to remember about those videos, and still pics, taken by witnesses from ground level looking up is that the building itself is on a shallow downward slope. So a person from ground level taking a pic of the roofline, is nearly level with roof itself and camera detects-can see a relatively long distance laterally *across* the roof.What is required, is to determine exactly where-in what location those videos/still pics from ground level were snapped from
>>474407584>didn’t fire 8 shotsHow many did he fire then.
How many shots were fired by Crooks, the attempted assassin?
>>474407770It was 8 shots TOTAL. This includes counter fire from SS. Sources say he only got off 3-4 shots before counter fire.
Let's get the number of shots fired by Crooks, Trump's attempted assassin, correct.How many shots did Crooks fire at Trump/the crowd on Saturday?
>>474407844>Sources say he only got off 3-4 shotsIs it acceptable to say that the attempted assassin fired four (4) shots?would that be approvable by (You)Yes/Noanswer the FUCKING question.
>>474407902Yes daddy. Why so aggressive?
>>474407955>Why so aggressiveRetard.
Now that we have established the attempted assassin, Crooks fired *four* (4) shots :
>>474407441>>474407584>>474407844>>474407955From *where* were the assassin's 4 shots fired :>west side of building roof (blue dot)>east side of building roof (red dot)
>>474408025>>474408076https://angermasters.com/?gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAACqGImC4sP79naeSwQ3nZ5RetMIBg&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIgtzLw7mrhwMVih-tBh0jdQ0QEAAYBCAAEgKdXPD_BwE
>>474407158/thread
>>474408179>>474407158>>474407584>>474407844>>474407955>>474408127From *where* were the assassin's 4 shots fired :>west side of building roof (blue dot)>east side of building roof (red dot)
Apparently, the shooter had a 10 inch penis. Why ruin your porn career to shoot an 80 yr old man who will be dead by the end of his next term anyway?
is anyone going to answer this simple question?
/thread
>>474407584>>474407844>>474407955>>474408127>>474408479>>474408661
can any of the /pol/ brain trust answer this simple question
I wonder brendan dassey is up to. Do you guys think he raped and killed that woman?
>>474408520Yes, he was on the East side. Impossible to get up and walk from west to east in the 5.8 seconds it took for him to be shot down after firing the first bullet. The counter-sniper team on the south building of Trump's rally saw him 8 seconds before he fired his first shot. They watched him set up.
>>474409393>watched him set upAccording to local LE report, he was seen on the roof by law enforcement, and also rally attendees, for 30 minutes prior to shots being fired.There is multiple video and still photos from rally attendees calling him as "crawling on the roof!" in attempts to alert the police/SS>5.8 seconds it took for him to be shot downCorrect and the reason for this topic thread.I'm watching a replay compilation vid right now of rally attendee mobile phone footage which show members of the crowd yelling loudly "he's crawling on the roof!" more than 3 minutes prior to shots being fired
>>474407158heres a trick questiondid the body move or the rifle move?
>>474405685>well SIR, WE DUNNO SHIT, SIR
>>474409887Rifle
>>474410034are u sure?
>>474410767
>>474407770i believe the shooter fired the first three shots. the next group of five shots was secret service returning fire and killing him. if you listen to the audio there is a clear difference in the sound of the shots between the first three and the next five.three shots from the shooter and hit four people. the shot that hit Trump went on to hit someone else in the crowd. the second and third shots both hit other people in the crowd. this is how you end up with Trump hit, the fireman guy dead, and two other guys in the hospital with gunshot wounds. if the shooter had fired anything more than three shots, there would most likely be more people hit and possible killed.
>>474411911>three shots>hit four peopleok thanksWhere were the assassin's 3 shots fired from?>west side of building roof (blue dot)>east side of building roof (red dot)>secret serviceapparently the much-pictured pair of marksmen on roof behind Trump, weren't the ones who delivered assassin killshot, which was from a different team
>>474410767Yeah.. what do you think that long pause before the last shot was? That was the shot where they shot the rifle away from him just in case. Use your head silly.
>>474410767when the cops finally got up on the roof to check if the guy was dead or not, they probably moved the rifle away from his clearly dead body anyways, just like cops will shoot somebody pointing a gun at them and still put them in handcuffs afterwards anyways, even if they are probably dead.
>>474412208This has already been answered jackass. And stop going to other threads that are unrelated to ask the same question you fucking retard
>>474412353there is a sharp metallic sound in the audio much later, well after people are already starting to get back up to see wtf is going on with Trump. nobody in the crowd reacts to it like the earlier gunfire. i don't think this is a final shot from anybody. i think it's something close the cam mic, maybe something metal falling over or somebody banging something into a metal railing.really sound to me like the shooter fires three times in about 3 seconds, then after 3 to 3.5 seconds later, the next five shots happen, and that's it for gunfire either way. this would also mean that the snipers that killed the shooter would have already been looking right at the guy to return lethal fire that quickly. that matches up with the video of the snipers on the roof behind Trump, though it is still unclear which secret service guys were the ones that actually shot back and killed the guy. it's going to be very interesting to learn where they were positioned and what they were looking at when they fired back.
>>474405685So what you are saying, is the doors on that building, they are made of wood.
>>474413193Fiberglass, actually.
>>474407158/endthread>>474407584>>474408453You can here snipers fire one shot. If you cant tell, it's clearly a different sound angle and suppressed. DD is hard for plebs
>>474413425Snipers fired at least 3-4 shots moron
>>4744134254got to post webm>>474412353that last shot was prolly confirmation shot >>474413425actually drink bleach you fuckin retard midtwit that cant even save or make a webm fuck u im not even postin the webm anymore
>>474412353>the shot where they shot the rifle awaylel ur funny>>474412381yup makes sense
>>474413511seriously clown midtwits r the reason nice things get ruined go drink bleach
>>474414160Are you going to go to synagogue today, kike?
>>474412546 13 pbtid JIDF>already been answeredNo it has not.which side of the building's roof were the 4 shots of the assassin fired from?>west side of building roof (blue dot)>east side of building roof (red dot)
>>474407584>>474407844>>474407955>>474408127>>474408479>>474408661>>474408856>>474410034>>474412353>>474412546>>474413409>>474413511
>>474414690What does Jessica’s ingrown dwarf friend have to do with this?
>>474414868Fuck off JIDF.
>>474413409>Fiberglass, actually.are u sure?
not sure manif only there was a pi-
>>474414102>>474415100position matches (20 roof ribs from the east side)
>>474415100he's DRT, that's the red-dot location on east side of roof.Did he fire the shots at Trump from there?corporate media narrative is that he was firing his shots at Trump more than 80 feet away, on west end of the roof.
>>474415477>Did he fire the shots at Trump from there?judging from this tmz webm, he was kia from where he took the shotsbut we still need to see the uncensored high res version which im sure is out there somewhere
>>474415477they are wrong and they don't actually check the things they reportCall them the lying press instead of corporate media
>>474415726>they are wrongperhaps,but what is (You)r opinion?what location on the roof do you think he took the shots from based on information available, looking at site airphoto maps, rally attendee videos/pics etc.>1. west side>2. east side
>>474415684>this tmz webmOk in that webm,__where is he__ on the roof?(not asking you "was he kia exactly where he's shown in the video"....)Where is the shooter located on the roof, in the tmz webm (You) posted?>1. west side of building roof>2. east side of building roof
>>474405685He was near the center of the roof just behind a television antenna.If he was hidden in the trees then how did the snipers see him to shoot him?It's all in the camera angles.Ask Finnster he knows all about camera angles creating a false perception.
>>474416330can u read my posts?if he was kia where he took the shots from (ie didnt move position after the first shot), that would be east side, 20 roof ribs from the east to be very preciseim sure this wouldnt be too difficult to measure if u know the distance
>>474416553>if u know the distancefrom rib to rib*
>>474414621I was wondering this yesterday. My conclusions now are that he was shooting from much closer to the red dot.Initially I thought the opposite, because of video that appears to show him close to the ledge. If he was further to the east, surely someone videoing from ground level would not have the angle to see him there?But I think now that the bystander videos are taken from a hill or embankment that puts them at an elevation much closer to the level of the roof and therefore the videos that make it appear as if the shooter is crawling near the ledge disguise the fact he is much further east.This also matches with the behaviour of the rooftop counter-sniper who appeared to lose track of him. If he was further to the eastern ledge, he may have been partially obscured by the tree between those two points.That also matches the reported location of the body.
>>474416164this >>474415100
>>474416553>kiaI'm not asking (You) that. (or about "measuring" / "calculating roof ribs" ...)CAN (You) *****READ***** ?shut the fuck up and READ.(You) just posted a tmz webm ittbased **ONLY** on that webmNOTTHINKINGABOUTORCONSIDERINGANYTHINGELSE--->where does it look like on the roof of that building, he's being shown in the tmz webm, only from looking at the webm itself?where would (You) say he is on the roof just looking at that webm alone?>1. west side>2. east side(we already know he's DRT on the east side. Stop fucking talking about that.)
>>474416615I'll add as well that one of the interviews I watched (maybe the BBC one though I'm not sure) had the person describing the rally taking place in a "valley" so it makes sense that they were at a higher elevation than the crowd and possibly closer to the height of the roof where the shooter was.This explains why they could see him but the police they were signalling to could not.
>>474405685Conspiracy theories >Trump was intentionally shot in the ear as a threat to pick Vance>Trump is actually dead and we're watching a rendering>They have him by the balls somehow >He was playing the long game all along (make of this what you will)More schizo>The government is controlled by ___ and it won't matter who is in charge >Shakkajdjdjdnjsjaizjcjdj
>>474416651(You) think he fired the shots from the east side of the roof, yes?
>>474416794can u not read retarded monkey beast?
>>474417008Where on the roof do you think he***FIRED THE SHOTS FROM***>1. west side>2. east side
this topic is being incalculably shilled.
>>474417115read dummy >>474416553
>>474405685Who cares? That's old news.
>>474417181So you *do* think that he fired the shots from the east side,where he was found DRT with the rifle a few 'roof ribs' away Yes Correct?
>>474417234>old newswhat is?That the shooter simultaneously fired the near fatal Trump shots from both the west and east sides of the roof?
>>474405685This is what you get with this type of Smith Mundt production. Two different men in two different places, sold as the same one point in time.
>>474417281yes yum yumeast side if he was kia where he took the shots from which we can safely assume is the case judging from that tmz vidunderstood now?
Lol,what in the fuck is so difficult about this topic?You either think the assassin fired his 3 (or 4) shots at Trump from the >west side of the building roof>east side of the building roofThis isn't about posting up multiple pics of the building/site/shooter/webms/theories/conjectureEverything pic-wise is in the first 8 posts itt, no other pictures needed.Just answer the OP title question
>>474417469>judging from that tmzok so taking the tmz vid alone by itself not considering anything else, that few-seconds vidclip displays him on the *east side* Correct?
>>474417336Yes. It's old news. Because nothing ever happens. If something didn't happen immediately, then it's just a distraction. But nothing happened.Well except for that firefighter getting greased, lol. But that's basically the same thing as nothing. Nobody even cares about him.
>>474417357>Two different men in two different places, sold as the same one point in timeCorrect.and what I'm attempting to get clarification on itt topic
>>474417481>"Just answer the (irrelevant, time-wasting) question!!!"No.
>>474417556>ok so taking the tmz vid alone by itself not considering anything else, that few-seconds vidclip displays him on the *east side* Correct?u really are being a pedantic retarded nigger nowu have to take into account the tmz video and the overhead heli shots to know where the shooters position as seen in >>474414102and >>474415100
>>474417692>>474416615>>474417713Nobody's answering the fucking question.It's a real simple one Bruce.were the assassin's shots fired from the west or east side of the building roof.(barring any completely contrary new info) We already mostly-securely can conclude that he was killed by counter-fire on the _east_ side.What's needed to be known is did he take the assassin shots from that same location.Because the narrative is, he took the shots from the far western end of the roof.
>A local police counter-sniper team was stationed inside the building where attempted assassin Thomas Crooks climbed on the roof and fired on Donald Trump, law enforcement sources told The Post. The building — the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania — was being used by local police as a “watch post” for snipers to scan for threats as the former president spoke onstage only 130 yards away, according to sources. Cops were inside, but not on the roof during the shooting, sources said.Well, ain't that some crazy shit?
>>474417646Don't forget the time. Some of what you're seeing is just rehearsal footage.
>>474418019east side mein niggeris that sufficient for u?
>>474417915>take into account the tmz videoThat is exactly what I'm asking (You).where is he on the roof in that video?>1. west side>2. east sideNo other information provided Based on the tmz webm vid alone, my _first instinct_ is to say it **IN THAT VIDEO CLIP** looks like he's on the far western end of the building roof.Am I wrong?
>>474415403*channelsorry that is dei in action if you don't know dey words wait and learn actually MORE by not posting jajajaja
>>474418158yesbut to me (see my ^^post above) the tmz vid, along with several other vidclips and pics taken by rally attendees _from the ground level_appear ? as though he's on the *far western* end of the building roof.that's what those ground-level amateur cellphone images look like, to me.
>>474418241I agree it is a major discrepancy, but the media says he was up there for a half hour at least so he might have run all over the roof.
We already know and almost 100% agree+can confirm,that he's dead on the east side of the roof.Stop talking about that please.This thread is about location of __where his assassin shots__ were taken from.
>>474418241>Based on the tmz webm vid alone, my _first instinct_ is to say it **IN THAT VIDEO CLIP** looks like he's on the far western end of the building roof.>Am I wrong?ur not wrong, this was also my initial assumption at first, video is deceiving
>>474418515Crooks was filmed on the west side during rehearsal. Yearick didn't go out that far from the trees on game day.
>>474418412>the media says he was up there for a half hour at least so he might have run all over the roofAgreed (actually it's not 'the media' but stories referring to a 'law enforcement report') absolutely, he might as well have moved-ranged all over it.Agree with you 100% anon, it's bullshit because he was known to be up there on that roof for a half an hour before he started shooting.at least 3 or 4 minutes prior to starting shooting, a dozen or more rally attendees were not only filming him live on-the-roof from the ground but also loudly yelling "crawling on the roof!" to cops/LE/SS trying to get their attention.There are a bunch of time-synced compilation vids proving this right up to the moment of shots whizzing past Trump's head
>>474418677>during rehearsalkek u fucking retards never cease to amaze mehttps://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1812726697730433024/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/HDiciRq1eLPVAqhl.mp4
Overhead pic of bodyOverhead pic of FBI doing forensics where you can clearly see blood in only one of the roof groovesVideo of shooter crossing first gap closest to front not second>every schizo tardnoo he was moved, i can't understand an optical perspective because I failed math, he's an actor, it was fake, there's over 9000 second shooters, aliens, CIA time traveler, noooo u are all wrong and my literal retardation is correct!embarrassing
>>474418611Thanks anonthat's all I'm trying to confirm.unless we're proven wrong otherwise/by additional info, a whole bunch of these crowd-shot ground level vids and pics _seem_ ? to be showing him on the west side of the roof.(My counter-explanation to that would be that somehow, by foreground/perspective distortion, these ground vids actually show him much further to the east across the building's roof..... can anyone prove me wrong in that..... Not sure myself)
>>474418801>at least 3 or 4 minutes prior to starting shootingIt could have been 3 or 4 weeks for all we know.
>>474415074Yes
>>474418019loads of people answered the question including me and you refuse to accept those answersyou're a tremendously stupid faggot and really boring
>>474418412nohe was caught on the roof earlier and ran away to evade capture.all day he was playing cat and mouse with the security it's comical how he'd just return and start using a range finder, run away then come back and be caught staring at them with binos. Total shit show he climbed the roof at least 2-3x
>>474419250That doesn't make any sense.
>>474418114>The building — the AGR International Inc. factory in Butler, Pennsylvania — was being used by local police as a “watch post” for snipers to scan for threats as the former president spoke onstage only 130 yards away, according to sources. Cops were inside, but not on the roof during the shooting, sources said.Yep
>>474419044what we need to confirm and put this question to rest is that tmz vid uncensoredif it shows him getting his head blown out as hes taking the shots (safe to assume this) then it would 100% confirm hes on the east side
>>474419364it doesn't but that's what happened.they even caught him pacing around the rally entrance bomb detector looking suss but only took his pic and let him go with a bag full of IDEs and a detonator for the bomb in his car
east side puts the crane that jizzed everywhere more in the line of fire
>>474419691nicely done
>>474405685>>west side of building (blue dot—according to corporate media narrative)If it's where he was (red dot) then they have to address the tree question.
>>474419505There are much simpler explanations than a series of increasingly catastrophic security failures falling nearly into place one after the other by pure coincidence.
>>474419198Yes Bruce you're correct that the building is located on a gentle downward swale, it causes a lot of the rallygoers' ground level footage/pics to have a perspective distortion. >>474419044he was known to law enforcement to have been on the roof for a half an hour prior to firing his deadly shots.we can be virtually certain (unless new info arises) that the DRT shots of him on east side of roof, are the correct location for his demise.Why is the corporate media narrative insisting he fired the shots from the west side of the building's roof?
>>474419505oops IEDsthe timeline of what this guy got away with is stunning in how inept USSS is>seen hours earlier carrying a rifle outside the security perimeter >kicked out for acting suss at the bomb detector entrance >seen climbing an aircon unit to the roof, when challenged ran away and hid in a building 300 yards away>was seen again on the grounds using a range finder but ran away when challenged >was seen again using binos and ran away>was seen climbing a ladderit goes on like this from the slow news drip of security failures
>>474419902>If it's where he was (red dot) then they have to address the tree questionThank you bong,that is the other specific reason for this thread topic.
>>474419975because they're confused by the perspective of the TMZ videos just like I was initially and just like you were
>>474409887why not both?
>>474419691Imagine NOT being there to let the crane spray all that jizz on your face after giving it a glorious blowjob
>>474419975>>474420121>because they're confusedYou're probably being generous there.
What about the water tower?
>>474420121right which is why the tmz/ other rallygoer ground level vids+pics need to be located precisely.we already do have locations of the phones-filmers for some of them.Also, there are some video collage compilations already done which are time-synced, at least 3 mins prior to opening fire people were yelling loudly for police to do something about the guy on roof:start @9:30>https://rumble.com/v573obuhttps//rumble.com/v573obu
>>474420584>Also, there are some video collage compilations already done which are time-syncedi posted it here >>474418917>https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1812726697730433024/pu/vid/avc1/1280x720/HDiciRq1eLPVAqhl.mp4
>>474419975>Why is the corporate media narrative insisting he fired the shots from the west side of the building's roof?Because that's the only place the man with glasses was pictured.
oh I guess that's the end of this thread
>>474405685The shooter was playing cat and mouse with the zogbots and USSS all day being chased multiple times around the security perimeter. There is now a huge list of all the shady shit he did including>pacing around the bomb detector to get into the rally so strangely the crowd snitched on him (they just took his pic and warned USSS)>being seen with binos and other recon devices obviously scoping the place out then running away if challenged>being seen on the roof and chased off to go hide outside the security perimeter>being seen using a ladder to get on the roof>being seen climbing an aircon unit to get on parts of the roof>being seen with a rifle in the area a few hours before the rally!>parked a car filled with bombs right near the eventthis guy was just a tard but security was even more retarded or deliberately inept to set up bulletproof Don
>>474421145Yes. /thread
>>474421688
>>474421198Any reports of him observed when first arrived/driving up to the site?i.e. prior to scoping-climbing the building roof itself
>>474422567only seen this thus far
>>474423352
>>474423445also interestinghttps://nypost.com/2024/07/16/us-news/trump-assassination-attempt-exact-timeline-of-police-failures/
>>474422567so far first observation was him supposedly seen walking near the perimeter early in the day carrying a rifle this is probably when he stashed it somewhere but it's just a leak from 'inside sources'.Next was him at the rally bomb detector gate acting suss and they took his pic. He bought a ladder too earlier.It's all being dripped out slowly eventually we'll see just how fucked security was this guy barely hid what he was doing
>>474423352he parked a second car right near the entrance and it was full of explosives, they found the remote detonator on him. The van was his escape vehicle
>>474423612>>474423771sauce for any of that shit?
>>474423612yeah I've gotta say, a bit skeptical oabout all these 'bomb detected' stories... just seems like more disinfo to pile on and obfuscate the shooter's own personal profile.also the "he bought a ladder" one, lol.>>474423445>rental vehiclealso this, wtf? a 20 year old hires a rental van from AZ>parked in a nearby neighborhoodwould like to get more specifics on this as well
>>474424035>would like to get more specifics on this as wellsomeone from the could possibly geolocate, would help draw a better picture
>>474424236>someone from the area*
>>474407056It was reported that a cop found himHe moved locations
>>474424456>moved locationsyou're asserting, that after the cop 'confronted' him the shooter then moved to a different part of the roof?and we still don't know where on the building-roof, the ID/agency of the LE officer, or exactly when this 'cop confronted' incident occurred.
>>474424035CNN story simply google crooks bought ladder>He parked the car outside the rally, with an improvised explosive device hidden in the trunk that was wired to a transmitter he carried, the official said. Then, investigators believe, he used his newly-bought ladder to scale a nearby buildingHe scaled the roof at least twice, once with a ladder and once jumping an aircon unit. Security was chasing him around all day
>>474425236post the link dumb nigger
>>474424747he jumped off and hid nearby outside the perimeter whenever challenged and kept returning according to Dan Bongino and another ex SS guy getting leaked info. It will all come out soon
>>474425404use google I have to workhttps://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/us/thomas-crooks-trump-rally-shooting-invs/index.htmlHere's that ape Dan talking about him evading security all day https://rumble.com/v571hol-an-apocalyptic-security-failure-ep.-2286-07152024.html
>>474425751>Hyundai Sonataso who was driving the van?>evading security all daythis makes zero sense, they had a suspicious guy evading security and they didnt think to call off the event or at the very least locate and apprehend the guy?
>>474425519hm interesting
>>474426667man I hadn't even heard about some of thes pre-event shenanigansit's shaping up to be he had a handler-assistantapart from all the flagrant on-site LE/SS security 'lapses'
>>474405685Der, clyde is dat you clyde?Well I aint no friggin jeanyus yeahbut my guess is, he moved before dey shot him mayneI aint bustin yo chops of this man I just sayin suck my dick you fuckin retard he probably moved, clyde
>>474426906more questions than answers
If this is a rental van why is it from 1992?
>>4744273181992, add the numbers together 21see what I am sayin bro?21 mang !That is the last number except for 22 before you get to 23 which is a prime nimber
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/trump-shooting-statement-joe-biden-updates/
The building was used for staging.There were officers and snipers in the building. The sniper who actually hot Trump shot through the window toward the east side, approximatey beneath where the tranny hood ornament described as crooks or yearick was positioned to distract anons and SS. The would be assassin was a treasonous member of our shitty government security apparatus.Why do you think they have pushed so many violent troon shootings lately? To establish le crazy tranny shooter meme. Predictive programming.
>>474428582>inside the building the shooter usedkek so they didn't _hear him_ trampling over the roof for half an hour?whole story just talks about>"they saw him">"snipers [inside bldg] took a picture of him">"he came back a third time">"the snipers called in"Fucking lol, just go out there and detain him.what the fuck kind of operation is thisAlso there's no timeline *at all* in that article, despite it being such a detailed laundry list of sequential events.
>>474428869You’re a lying faggot KYS jew
>>474429484agree, theres too many inconsistencies in this story
>>474422176This is the first thing Ive seen on this that makes any sort of sense at all.
>>474405685Woah shit, it must be Jewish black magic and not just that time elapses and he fucking moved, you fucking ape
>>474429506 18 pbtid JIDF
>>474430020but how would this team inside the building not coordinate with the others, even after allegedly reporting seeing the suspicious kid and even taking a photonone of this makes sense
>>474422176>SWAT team was supposed to be on the roof but opted for the floor because it was so hotwow where-who is that fromthis is just more intentional-clusterfuck to 'allow' the shooter to take the roofshot
this stinks almost as bad as Epstein's "suicide"Nothing ads up. The kid was on the building for at least 2-4 minutes before firing, on the east side where he'd be mostly obscured by the trees, from the counter sniper teams to the south, and eyewitnesses contacted the police and SS, to no avail? The SS left a roof unsecured with a clear line of sight to the target only 400-450 feet away? VERY SUSPICIOUS.
>>474430733>wow where-who is that fromhttps://x.com/BravoKiloActual/status/1812959974135591163
>>474430614>none of this makes senseExactlydoes the corporate media intend to future retract some of these contradictory and ludicrous narratives (some of which came from local LE)?there needs to be a federal investigation
>>474430753>on the building for at least 2-4 minutes before firingyep and that's just before opening fire.we have incontrivertible multiple-video proof of thisAccording to the LE reports he was *on* the roof for *half an hour* priorof a building, the exact same building which housed a 3-sniper swat team at *exact same time*kek
>>474407850This is the most retarded convo i have red at that site.
>>474430892seems like they are trying to craft a narrative but are becoming very sloppy
>>474431170according to 'experts' Crooks himself only fired 3, or maybe 4, shots at Trump and the crowd.rest of the shots were counter-sniper returning fire
>>474405685Shooter was at the BACK of the roof (where he is in the video) which puts him BEHIND the giant tree.... which is why the Secret Service were spazzing out, because he was obscured from their sniper.
>>474431823there was multiple sniper teams behind the stage see >>474421688
>>474431114>half an hourgoddamn I just checked that out:https://archive ph/VKC4jThis is insane. This looks like a coordinated, calculated hit on Donald Trump. It takes more effort to believe the SS were that negligent in securing an already-identified vulnerable rooftop, that law enforcement didn't coordinate with SS when a "suspicious man is on a roof with clear line of sight to Donald Trump", than it is to believe this was a hitjob.
>>474432667Someone on the inside coached this kid directly into the perfectly formed and implausible gap in the security coverage of the area, clearly. Someone who knew the secret service’s SOP and lines of sight and was also able to direct the SWAT team to stay inside of the building. All 3 groups (secret service, SWAT, other local law enforcement) were “just following orders” from the same party that coached the kid onto the roof
>>474433286agreed, im leaning more towards this theory the further i look into this
The main incredible black hole in this entire story rn is, that the shooter was on the building roof for half an hour and this was known to LE.nobody is talking about it, corporate mass media has moved on to things like the RNC convention this week.
>>474433286>>474433600concur
>>474433633they even claim he was seen with a rangefinder, then dissapears and returns with a backpackpresumably this was all still on the ground before he got up on the roof...
>>474433600>>474433683My only hole is it seems risky to have the whole plan rest on the shoulders of some loser kid, even if he was MKUltra’d. An additional currently-undiscovered real shooter makes sense, but also adds far more complexity to an already complex operation
>>474434414fair and valid pointhave u seen >>474419691its possible another shooter was inside the very same building
>>474433286inb4>no evidenceand there never will be. No one will so much as lose their job over this clusterfuck of sthf proportions, it will be labeled a "critical error in judgment" and everyone will move on. There's just no way I can believe the following:>police officer confronts him, retreats on seeing the gun>doesn't immediately spam all radio channels with "GUNMAN ON ROOF AT LOCATION X"That's just one crazy thing I can't believe, and there's at least a dozen more.
>>474405685test >>474066576
>>474435223now this picture makes more sense
>>474435296full res here
>>474406092I want to go home,and then edge
>>474434848Presumably though that’s where the SWAT team that should’ve been on the roof was located. Unless that SWAT team was an entirely fake unit, I don’t see how the shots could’ve come from anyone other than the shooterThat picture does make it seem like the angle from the left side of the building is closer to reality than the one from the right. We know Trump barely turned his head, he would’ve needed a pretty significant turn to avoid the shot from the right vs the left
>>474411911>>474413038There was a tractor that got hit and started spraying hydraulic fluid or something, its on one of the videos
>>474435632>>474435662this is important to determine trajectory and angle of the shotshttps://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1812252301962162176/vid/avc1/1276x720/h6ys6i2eQedwd4Ly.mp4?tag=16
>>474407188>So there is video of the shooter laying downthis. he was just looking for a shot, left his rifle a few feet back to take a look.But that means that chopper or drone was tracking him for many minutes before he took a shot on the far side of the building
>>474435793another angle before the shots
>>474435379>full resyes in this telephoto pic the gentle downslope swale can be seen in the topography near the building.it contributes why some of the ground level rally attendee videos/pics seem to have a perspective distortion, we can't discern precisely where/what position east-or-west he is on the roof
>>474435793Well seeing the video again it’s pretty clear I’m wrong about Trump “barely” turning his head he was damn near turned around lol If the tractors from >>474435379 are the ones from the video that busted, trajectory seems to line up with the position on the right, which again would be perfectly coached for him to be semi-obscured from the main secret service snipers by the tree
Keep in mind there is more than one sniper team.
>>474435793>>474436004>determine trajectory and angle of the shotsNeed a new notated airphoto map of the site with exact position of where he took the shots from, their trajectory past Trump/into crowd
>>474415100he's alive in that shot
>>474405685>which is the *correct* location of where Assassin's shots were fired from?Too lazy to read thread but has ANYONE addressed how the fireman was shot in the head? Was he the real target? I mean, he was sitting around a bunch of people, so a lot of heads in the way, and he supposedly had ducked to cover his family when the bullets started flying. Yet the poor soul gets a direct head shot? How? He was not even sitting in the bleachers behind Trump, from what I saw on one video. He was in the bleachers left of Trump and the stage (left is standing facing the stage). What gives? How was that shot made?
>>474419691How could the shooter have seen his ear if he was facing to the right?
>>474436932I completely disagree with the idea but I must concede that if you want to kill someone and not have anyone ask questions, doing it under the guise of trying to kill the President would be a surefire way to pull it off
>>474436932I can’t figure out where the dude was sitting from any of the videos so I agree that’s a big question I have but he does seem relatively unremarkable as a target
>>474436165indeed>>474436932https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1812600916563881984/vid/avc1/1280x720/gYaDaQMj18BFfntt.mp4watch this while i try to find the exact location of those hit in the crowd
>>474436932>>474437418>>474437422Synced compilation of multiple videos, at least 3 mins prior to assassin opening fire :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDzxnQsSVQY
>>474438860so (if he did as we mostly agree shoot from east side of roof) which sniper team took him out?
>>474439021read thishttps://x.com/realErikDPrince/status/1812538250931642534
>>474439160
>>474440561better illustration of 488yd radius
>>474433633The news gets many details wrong. I think he was only on the roof for a few minutes. They took pictures of him being suspicious on the ground earlier and the news hears this and reports he was on the roof for half an hour.
>>474440966>reports>I think he was only on the roof for a few minutesSee: >>474428582^this is CBS trans-literation of a local news report, other local news reports (different source) say that the law enforcement report, to them, had him sighted *on the roof* 25 full minutes prior to opening fire.
>>474435793The audio is much better on this and the gunshots sound louder, I guess since it was filmed closer to the stage.
>>474435296If that's where another sniper team supposedly was, maybe they were his handlers and just let him out of a window and onto the roof? Is there a window, or door to the roof, on that side?
>>474436305
>>474442622great fucking question
>>474416866I got a better one>Trump wasn't even shot
>>474441482Fox news had a graphic that said "Butler, PA" on the screen in front of a reporter who was standing outside his house in Bethel Park, PA.
>>474405944This is where he was, because thats where he was told to be. Secret service had trouble seeing him because of the treeline in that exact spot. You could even see the onions counter sniper with the noodle arms have trouble spotting him thats why he had to go to the tripod. Luckily the kid was severely dysgenic and had bad vision, ontop of some cop looking for a donut ontop of the roof startled him so he missed his shot. It wasnt supposed to happen this way.
>>474442622https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSqZ-L7KtI
bump
>>474442899>Fox news chyroncaptionyeah but the details about duration-of-roof-time come from local-news-Pennsylvania sources.I don't have those individually available but they're out there.here is one https://archive.is/7tvlB
>>474405685The real question is where did the ladder come from? A ladder that was just the perfect height, as well
>>474442883sure
>>474445830Probably in the back of his van
>>474445830>>474446353see >>474426667
>>474446499this one is a police ladder
>>474445580that doesn't say they saw him on the roof for over 20 minutes
>>474446609this one might be shooters ladder but then we have other reports that suggest he got access to roof using an ac unit
>>474446499Either he had an accomplice or drove there twice, we know a van was there. Alternatively he drove the van to the shooting, placed the ladder there, then drove back home to grab the Hyundai>>474445368
>>474446907yep already posted >>474423352 and >>474423445its all a mystery
>>474447077Just when you think this case can't get any weirderBy the end of the week we're gonna find out his parents were in on it
>>474446048>2024 the era of AI>muh pictures prove it!
>>474409820The cops have 2 photos of him on the roof from ~26 minutes before the shooting. The 2nd photo has him sighting with a rangefinder. They told Secret Service. Then, we know the rest.
more on the vanhttps://x.com/ProjectMatildaX/status/1812819590126375259
>>474448938Can anyone read the plates? -phonefag
>>474446760>saw him on the roofDid I say that article did?See : >>474448051
>>474449194canttrying to find original source
>>474446760>that doesn't sayThere is a lot more information, which LE has possession of rn, which isn't being reported but is being hinted at.Perp was *on the roof* for more than 26 minutes prior to the shots being fired.
>>474449194>>474449272find this fatty to get the plates
>>474449317I haven’t seen anything that says “he was on the roof 20+ minutes prior”We’ve seen he was spotted 20+ minutes prior, and that he was spotted moving toward the back of the building some time prior, and that he was spotted on the roof 2 or so minutes prior. Nothing indicates he was on the roof that entire time expect for conflating these different testimonies into one, erroneously
>>474448938https://files.catbox.moe/tgffop.mp4
>>474449973Is this the standard means of towing a van filled with bombs
>>474450365its how u tow a glowie van
>>474443688
>>474449698https://beavercountian.com/content/daily/beaver-county-officer-warned-of-seeing-man-with-rangefinder-before-trump-was-shot>A Beaver County police officer warned a command center of seeing a man with a rangefinder before former president Donald Trump was shot on Saturday. The officer had also warned the man was scoping out the roof of the building he was stationed in as a counter-sniper, and that the man returned with a backpack before ultimately scaling the building.You're right. He was seen on the ground beforehand.
>>474449698One of the stories, from one of the local Pennsylvania news sources, stated specifically verbatim that the law enforcement source which informed them had told them, they observed the perp on the roof for 26 minutes prior to first shots being fired.That newspaper report could ? have been 'conflated', mis-reported, erroneous, whatever.We won't know until the official LE / police / sheriff documentation of incident is released to the public.And, there are enough other holes and inconsistencies in the story and timeline(s) overall as it exists rfn to know that easily could be the case.
>>474451384>>474451405I am assuming that the media reports that seemingly placed him on the roof the whole time were an error made by shitbrained journalists. Combined with other testimony that seems to clarify the entire ~30 minute timeline, journalist error makes the most sense to me
>>474451698>I am assuming that the media reports that seemingly placed him on the roof the whole time were an error made by shitbrained journalists.In this thread at least, that was an error I made, though the reports state that he was not on the roof. Maybe others assumed similarly.
blue line is the water tower shooter who killed a bystander
>>474451833This guy >>474451405 is referencing a media report I’ve seen repeated that came out early and fucked up the timeline, might be planned misdirection like the extremely early “glass hit trump” thing
>>474452101>water tower shootervile shlomo
>>474452101dont be silly
>>474451698>timelineNone of the 'timeline(s)' make any sense whatsoever at this point.the only 'timeline' I trust, based on what's been in front of/visible to my eyes, is the ~3-minutes-prior -to-shots-fired synced video compilation >>474438920beyond the 3-minutes-prior I have zero idea what the fuck was going on before that point, how long he was recon-ing the site/the building, where-when he got onto the roof, when the cop 'confronted' him etc.We need a proper accurate timeline for this entire incident
>>474423445Now thats an interesting detail>>474424035Not quite, Rental cars usually have out of state license plates from out of state because that vehicle was put into service in that state and has probably been used in many 1-way trips prior to ending up in its current location. This does prove that someone helped him get that rental van, since the minimum age you need to be to rent a vehicle in the state of PA is 21 at a higher "Youthful Surcharge" rate of 36.50/day, and rental places are very strict about who they hand their keys off to, they wont make an exception to let a 20 year old take a rental, they would get fucked if they were involved in an incident. But since this was obviously a fed op, they will never truthfully disclose this info.
>>474452270>misdirectionAll of the media reporting on this incident thus far since Sat 7/13, whether local Pennsylvania or national/corporate, is misdirection of some sort or another.
need help finding photos of this parking lot during/after the event
>>474452509>someone helped him get that rental vanmy point, in having pointed out the AZ plate yes I know how rental vans operate inter-cross-state, he required someone 21+ to assist him renting it.
>>474452283explain
>>474452787read the thread stoopid
>>474452787You are very gullible. That doesn't begin to show what you claim. You are the gayest of niggerfaggots and no one likes you.
>>474452592For sure, the secret service lady’s recent press conference seems to be top of the list
>>474452787God I fucking hate tik tok, is it really so hard to show the thing once all the way through at normal speed
>>4744436 Window looks like its open. They would've been able to get visuals on him or be able to get onto the roof from that window
>>474453086right now there's no official investigation.but Rep. James Comer iirc sent a letter to DHS (or USSS) the other day about ituntil then they, and corporate media have a field day of misdirection and disinformation
>>474426667so the ladder trick really does work huh
>>474435379can someone find different angles of this parking lot?
>>474453671
>>474407584>He didn’t fire 8 shots, retardHe might have. There were 2-3 initial rounds fired. Then a flurry of 5-6 more rounds. That's what is heard on the videos from the venue. From the video near the building with the shooter, you can hear the initial rounds, the flurry of rounds that follows and then a few more rounds. Those final rounds are quieter as they were fired by the 3rd counter sniper team which was over 400 yards away.There were at least 3 counter sniper teams. Two behind Trump. Both of those teams consisted of 2 counter snipers each. All 4 of those counter snipers were using large caliber bolt action rifles with high powered scopes in order to look out to 1,000 yards. The 3rd team, stationed near the rear of the venue consisted of two counter snipers. They were armed with AR10 semi-auto rifles chambered in .308. It's believed that this 3rd team killed the shooter. I believe those final rounds, only heard on one video that I'm aware of, were fired by the 3rd team, the only team with semi-auto rifles. So the flurry of rounds didn't come from the counter snipers behind trump as they were using bolt action guns and the flurry was louder than the final shots the killed the sniper. So it's likely the flurry of shots did come from the shooter. But it's not certain.
>>474453851I'm surprised there's not more video. Everyone had their phones out recording, as is always the case.
>>474453811
>>474454003check facebook and truth social. it was a bunch of boomers filming.
>>474453671>can someone find different angles of this parking lot?There is footage, from a helicopter I believe, filmed by the BBC. They circle most of the area, you can see the parking lot, the ladder still in place, and it really shows how the trees most likely blocked at least one counter sniper team but maybe both teams that were stationed behind Trump. That might be why it was the 3rd team, the team stationed near the rear of the venue, that took out the shooter.
>>474454019No way that roof was left open like that. Bullshit.
>>474454003>I'm surprised there's not more video. Everyone had their phones out recording, as is always the case.A local news station said they'd received dozens of videos from locals that were at or near the event and that it shows that many people saw the shooter on the roof. I'm sure there would be a lot more interesting information in those videos. I hope more videos get posted online but it does seem strange that so few are out there.
>>474454019
>>474454483full res herehttps://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/ajc/PXDB332GKO6A6R2QIHNGJI3K6Y.jpg
>>474405685Excellent question.It would also be helpful to learn how many shooters firing at Trump there actually were.
>>474405685Wait? I thought Iran was the shooter they are now saying?
>>474454862but where is the shooters vehicle?
>>474452787
>>474454019full res herehttps://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/ajc/TU2L57WITWI6XNGLQSOJ2VSCUI.jpg
>>474454930It was Iran I swear, not Myorkas haha don't even bother looking into the leadership
>>474453364>corporate media have a field day of misdirection and disinformationAll they have to do is delay until the public's goldfish-like attention span is exceeded and the Deep State can get back on script.
>>474405685Good question. Keep in mind that as reports are pouring in, some people are conflating, feet, yards and meters. So, that means there will be reports of more than one shooter. Why the Secret Service doesn't use shotspotter is beyond me. I would think it would be standard equipment in forensics.
>>474455277oy vey
>>474455416anybody else see the crime scene tapes?
>>474455414>Why the Secret Service doesn't use shotspotter is beyond mePerhaps they do but the answers aren't ones the Deep State would want to reveal.
>>474454483that's a good viewShould use it as template to draw correct diagram
>>474455252
>>474456473
>>474453851>3rd team, stationed near the rear of the venue>near the rearWhere?use one of the pics >>474454019or >>474454483
remember, the wind took the round so it curved off to the right of these photos
>>474453272>God I fucking hate tik tok for exposing my MIGA overlord
>>474456752The position is not shown here. I'll see if I can find a pic real quick.
now the narrative (NYT) is that Tucker talked to Trump on phone a few weeks ago, warned him of 'apocalyptic' response if DJT selected a neocon like Rubio or Burgum as VPSomeone make a new thread
I'll make a new thread:Assassin shooter location generalASLG
>>474457320include this thread in the OP
>>474457446it's in fp (not OP sorry)
it's up, start posting everything you've got on there
>>474407770I counted 8 and 11 totalpoppop poppoppop crack poppop crack pop...crack
>>474409393>he counter-sniper team on the south building of Trump's rally saw him 8 seconds before he fired his first shot. They watched him set up.Pretty sure the south team made the kill shot. North team guy with the tripod fired blind through the tree or maybe at a partial silhouette he zeroed in. If you watch north team the guy in the prone position crawls back instead of returning fire. That only makes sense if he realizes he can't help so he ducks for cover. Or he was just a pussy
MIGRATE :>>474457601>>474457601>>474457601>>474457601
>>474409887>did the body move or the rifle move?The story I heard is that the counter sniper fired 2 shots, first killed Crooks, 2nd shot was to shoot the gun away from the body. Which would be easily provable if they ever release photos of his gun.
>>474458053>2nd shot was to shoot the gun away from the bodypost sauce
Ok you have to understand that a sniper can’t shoot someone for looking sketchy. The public saying there is a gun and there being a gun is also 2 very different things. They have to confirm that the person is not a random person trying to see the president. What would the headlines look like if the snipers shot this kid but this kid didn’t have a gun? They would be blaming trump they would lose there shit they would have riots. You can see the difference sniper teams move to look at the area. Was there a fuck up? Yes the ground team should have been the ones that cleared the building before and put security by it. The sniper we see take the shot are using 300win mag. The cal is not used for short range that’s why they were not looking there when he got on the roof. The other sniper in the back with the 308 (I believe that’s what it is it could be some other cal) would be in charge of looking for any threats that are closer to the principal. They should have had 1-2 ground personnel around the building and the ladder he used to get up should have be blocked off. Seems like there was not enough communication between ground and snipers, and the snipers and the other sniper seem to not be communicating. Now for why I think/know some of this. I’ve know and talked to people that had done this job for Obama. They were former marines that we worked with.
>>474456752>>474457165When I made my original post I was thinking that the 3rd team was positioned in the area I circled in blue, but I went back and checked and the correct positions are marked with red lines.
>>474459243cool thx now post this in the new thread: >>474457601>>474457601
Wanted to say thanks to this OP and all contributors Haven’t participated in a real thread on /pol/ in over a year it feels like
