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SSRIs are not tested for safety beyond a year yet 70m americans are taking them. They do not even have to prove that these drugs work reliably or run any tests on patients to prescribe them. These drugs take YEARS of careful tapering to get off due to how they rewire the brain. These drugs are extremely dangerous and should be illegal, but they are somehow easily accessible and widely prescribed.
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>>514965281
Take your meds
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>>514965281
sauce?
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>>514965281
she looks very very dumb
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>>514965352
Her name is No ass Nancy.
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>>514965281
The best part about SSRIs is that there are no side effects and they're not dependency forming
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>>514965406
>low iq take
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>>514965281
>Be me
>Grow up abused and scapegoated by family
>Paralyzed, skip school, lock myself in my room as I know my life is ruined forever
>Family went from demoralizing my successes to validating my failure
>Enable me.
>Uncle comes back from Norway, newly wed, and starts bonding with me
>See a way out through him
>Helps me become independent and I make it out
>Lose him
>Going back home, suffering mental breakdown, panic attacks, PTSD
>Discover meditation
>Learn mindfulness, which helps me deal with environment
>Move out
>Keep family at bay, learn how to talk to them while staying in my lane
>Focused, develop OCD from PTSD
>Never take meds once throughout this
>31 years old
>Meet woman who reminds me of family, whom I thought I knew how to deal with now
>Become idealized by her which validates the fuck out of me
>Inevitable devaluation discard at 32
>Lose everything I thought I learned
>See psychiatrist
>"You have OCD"
>Spiral
34 now and feeling like a vegetable, locked in my own apartment
Would ssris help me? I dont want to lose my dick
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>>514965487
kek
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>>514965759
found the mouth breather
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>>514965406
yeah. i think it's something to do with the curvature of the eyebrows and the open mouth
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>>514965281
It's all an on-purpose. There is some sort of focused influence being applied on them, an influence of self-destructive degeneracy. Who's behind it?
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>>514966151
Probably has to do with that super-unflattering body
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>>514965958
What are your goals? What do you hope SSRIs will do for you?
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>>514965958
they’re not intended or designed to be used longer than a year. it’s extremely hard to stop using them after a year. i wouldn’t recommend them to anyone.
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>>514965281
Fake news they help people a great amount.
>>514965958
Yes, they would help, losing your dick is not always a guarantee, but a possibility.
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>>514966185
Dumb white women
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>>514965281
>demonic
take your meds
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>>514966341
thats hilarious bro, guaranteed they damage or placebo more people than they “help”
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>>514966341
>they help
It's like bringing democracy to some country that has something you want or something you don't like. It's just help bro
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>>514966473
You have no proof of that you liar.
>>514966737
No they do help if you are freefalling in despair they stop you. But you do have to work on yourself still.
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>>514966301
Help me stay grounded, reduce my anxiety and observe my emotions. Normally, I'm in a state of survival and it takes an effort to ground myself and remind myself that there is nothing to fear. My natural inclination is survival so it means stress, rushing through things, panic, avoiding connection, speaking before thought. I used to know how to manage it but in the past few years I've lost a lot of it. My coping mechanisms don't feel "true" anymore.
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>>514966876
First off. Your dick might get affected. Personally I took about a month to get back to regular after I started.
Shit absolutely requires a month or so to affect your system
Start small. Dont try for ssris immediately. If you do start small just tell your provider that.
There are anti anxiety meds that can help without the brain chemistry stuff. Beta blockers help relax the stress responses and are for onlabel reduction of blood pressure. No mental effcys.
Also meds dont have to be forever.
They can help you get to a better place where you can manage yourself and maybe get off meds if that's what you want.
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>>514966465
Kike
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>>514967305
any recommendations for if your family is sneaking ssris into my food?
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>>514965281
I WADDA HAVE SEX
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>>514966876
kek, it is SSRI not lithium, you'll not think before act, you will act without thinking.

you don't care about the consequences and that's what stops the worries than you are sober and see the damage you done to your life.
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>>514965281
>SSRIS ARE EVIL DEMONIC BULLSHIT

American Christcucks are borderline retarded and call anything they don't understand demonic.

Imagine my shock!
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>>514966851
>the system that benefits from getting you hooked on evil drugs will also tell you how dangerous and evil their drugs are.
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>>514968038
>convenient lack of rebuttal
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>>514965958
Any kike medical solution won’t help you no matter what they said
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>>514967922
Sounds like what you usually hear about them. So how would that help me? My issue is that I'm impulsive already.
Getting devalued and discarded despite everything I thought I knew, it made me question everything. "Why even bother." The rules I set up, I'm increasingly questioning. I feel like I'm suffering from these side effects and I'm not even on SSRIs. So these drugs would only make me worse?
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>>514968685
Never the people who make these do not care about your health whatsoever and only about lining their pockets
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>>514967305
I think my biggest problem is not knowing what I feel.
I grew up feeling nothing but fight or flight, which is not an emotion but a survival instinct. I've never felt love, anger or anything.
I had a few weeks where I let my guard down and began exploring emotions, and it made me desire things I never did before, like human connection. Then something happened, rumination kicked in and my old coping mechanisms no longer worked. All emotions were replaced by fear and panic, and here I am now.
I hear SSRIs remove all emotions, good and bad. I just want to remove the panic, in order to remove the fear...
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>>514968685
SSRI are the most prescribed drug due to this lack of pondering and wisdom, the person goes automatically going from bad decisions to bad decisions without crashing, that's why it is used...
the ones who weren't that way were tricycles which had a mild sort of dream like state and sedative but they are overdosable and they banned due to this, also you are more prone to quit something one it rather than keep going... which isn't the purpose of modern "anti depressants" which just "act mindlessly forever".

Lithium is the only ponderable drug out there that has no mental side effects that isn't mood control...
it doesn't sedate or numb, it changes your thought process due to it being a mineral but..

it will destroy your kidney and thyroid...

I'm trying ritalin once again, the first time I took it I could work for 12h and slept like an angel, I'm on the 5 day, it sucks ass, it is a generic form, it isn't work like it used... I'm tired and not motivated, I'm not "hyperactive" in spiral midless worries but far from working enthusiastically.

this is another drug they don't prescribe because they know you crash from it, contrary to modern ati depressants...
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>>514965281
Ssris saved my life from severe depression. I was a little bit lucky because their effect started ON DAY 1. I just felt a bit nauseous the first four days, then boom, I suddenly became functional. I have been taking them for three years now, it's the best decision I have ever made. I'm a quite reasonable person, so I I'm grateful for the only side effect I have, which is severely diminished sex drive. It's one less biological need. I can't describe how good it is, being able to focus on myself, instead of wanting to fuck women all the time. Ssris also helped me maintain a calm demeanor most of the time, while leaving my beliefs intact. God bless the shrinks.
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>>514969392
I kneel.
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>>514967700
Idk. I assume you are an adult so... make your own food or embrace the medication I guess.
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>>514965958
Touch grass Svensson.
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>>514969245
Interesting. My issue isn't that I lack motivation. I work 24/7 as a form of escape from reality, and my work is productive. I have my own business and it is good. Problem is I have zero human connection because I can not think and I don't know why. I think my issue is that I can't feel emotions.
I never feel love, hate, jealousy, admiration, nothing. All I ever feel is fear and my actions are rooted in survival.
I work to survive. Currently, I'm spamming 4chan and trying to problemsolve my issues. In between replies, I switch tabs and get work done (mind you, it's a weekend). Then I'll switch tabs and check news, get more work done, check stats on my business, Google self help, and just panic do this all day until I pass out from sleep.
I'm looking forward to Monday when I have a reason to leave the house. I drive to our coworking office where I can grind some more. Go to the gym. Have a reason to get fresh air and then I come back home, cook and continue doing this.

My emotion is nothing but fear. This is my only problem.

I had success with mindfulness exercises in the past, but they gave me OCD and as of late, I'm losing those abilities too. I knew how to feel things other than panic, but now I no longer can.

It sounds like your problem is different?
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>>514969074
Panic and depression are different medications. There is stuff for mood swings or PTSD.
Silent meditation for 15 minutes would probably help you explore your feelings more. Get a therapist and tell them you just want to feel instead of being told how to fix something. Dont let your therapist decide what purpose you have there.
What you are describing is an lack of security or reliability I would say. Enough safety to make it okay to relax. That issue comes before all that self development and shit. Finds a space that you can just exsist in.

Some SSRIs do BLUNT EMOTIONAL RESPONSES
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>>514965958
You are a failure because you suck at things, not because you have a condition. Try getting better at things instead of being a tremendous whiny faggot on the internet.
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I took these some years ago and then went cold turkey from them when I found out the FDA pulled them because they chased liver damage. I got these electric shocks in my brain for months after as a side effect.
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>>514969934
When I was younger, 25-26, I did meditation and it helped me achieve what you said. I learned how to observe my emotions and felt calm. It broke me out of the rumination I had for decades prior.

This worked and I began obsessing about being mindful. It allowed me to deal with family, be assertive, move out and tell people to fuck off if they bothered me. But I also developed OCD later in life. I met someone and continued being like this. Funny, assertive, dominant, successful, calm and of course, also OCD. Devaluation and discard put me off balance. I didn't know how to cope, so the things I learned, I started questioning.

Now, doing the meditative exercises calms me down, but I can no longer maintain it. There is white noise and rumination constantly going on. I can't get rid of it. As I wrote this response to you, I thought of an exercise. I will try it and see if it helps
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>>514969499
>I was a little bit lucky because their effect started ON DAY 1.
Because the effect was purely psychosomatic. SSRIs are useless. They haven't been shown to have any effect beyond active placebos.
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>>514970402
And you should feel good about this. You cured your depression yourself.
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>>514970105
I could list all the shit I can do that you can't, faggot, but you're not worth it. I literally pulled myself out of being set up for failure, and bought my own apartment which implies independently making money too and yet you talk shit.
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>>514970402
Not at all. It was 100% drug related. It turned my mental state around within a couple of days.
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>>514965958
You don't want to lose your dick, but Post SSRI syndrome is a KNOWN side effect. By everyone. So there's a very large chance it will happen and permanently.

It's like saying "I'm gonna use this guillotine, is it gonna cut off my head?" Yes and you'll be dead afterwards. That's your answer. I understand you don't want to accept the answer because the internet makes it seems like "there are more options cuz other people are doing it and it's fine". No, you're definitely choosing to kill yourself if you ingest SSRI, it's not a 50/50 debate. The effects are very well known. Always remember that.

I took a few pills. Destroyed my emotions permanently. Rarely reported side effect
That's nothing to mess with,.it destroyed my life. I can still feel stuff but it's at about 1% compared.to.before
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>>514970458
That's kind of you to say, but I have to admit that I couldn't have done that.
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>>514966851
>freefalling in despair they stop you.
No they don't. What they actually do is lobotomize you and drive peopel to suicidal ideation. This is a general effect of fluoride intoxication, not just fluorinated drugs.
This is lterally a joke for the jewish medical professional; give the saddest people drugs that force them at a neurophysiological level, to feel even sadder, but 'suggest' that this will cure them- and watch the conflicting battle between hypnosis and physiology play out (while they laugh)
Dentists have the highest rate of suicide, curious why?
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>>514970402
>Because the effect was purely psychosomatic. SSRIs are useless. They haven't been shown to have any effect beyond active placebos.
You are insanely fucking stupid.
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>>514966851
>help if you are freefalling in despair
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>514970335
Remember big changes require time.
Noticing. Noticing. Noticing. Not reacting.
Sounds like you have the tools. Maybe time to group up? Need evidences to support your new desired mindset. Make your mind realize there are no predators to run from, no fires to put out.
I dont want to tell you what to do but I know how you feel man.
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>>514969835
lithium will fuck you up since the effect is trying to be "emotionless" for over emotional people or other affective disorders that has too much importance and feeling attached to affection.

some say this is the flat mood what you describe, sort of anhedonia even though you are highly functional, I guess your drive is an emotion so you have to evaluate what truly drives you if it is just "running away from fear"... some people fear their own minds and stay busy because of trauma or because they would have to face moral consequence from something that sometimes is silly...

I work a lot too but my work isn't paid so, I guess we're different, I'm also on the same "fight or flight" state due to economical grounds and this is making my work no efficient, I have a theoretical psychological base to tell you that from nothing works on my life even being outlier, there is the learned helpesness, it is a sort of neurotic contamination, I'm trying to break from it, it is a growth process that I'll have to accept that if I can concentrate on this, at least I'll have my novel done and if I die on the process, I did what I could. Also I'm battling with such short destination, it isn't even maniacal, it is rather lack of experience justice...

I'm racially persecuted first for not being brown and second for not being retarded... so they try anything to make me on your state.

I'm not experiencing fear rather helplessness...

Maybe you need to try to see what is what you fear about, life without passive income truly is a nightmare since one mistake and you're poor or don't achieve your potential...

So maybe your fear is based on those grounds, that you have to work or you'll be fucked but you are working so much that maybe you're not living what you want and that also causes fear, this is by design your state, but I could be wrong...
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>>514965281
Birth control is hormone replacement. Women are all basically trannies which is why they are all crazy bitches.
Humanity would be better off with medical practice being prohibited.
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>>514970508
>I took a few pills. Destroyed my emotions permanently. Rarely reported side effect
>That's nothing to mess with,.it destroyed my life. I can still feel stuff but it's at about 1% compared.to.before

If you read my replies, this is my biggest struggle. I understand exactly what you mean by these words. Without emotions, we are nothing. If we don't know what we feel, we don't know what to do. I felt love for the first time at 33, and that gave me a desire to pursue human connection. I never wanted to talk to anybody for 33 years prior to that.
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>>514970815
>Noticing. Noticing. Noticing. Not reacting.
>Sounds like you have the tools. Maybe time to group up?
I've been there. I'm relapsing.

Left home independently. Made money independently. Bought my own apartment independently. Got a job, started a business, made connections. All the while I noticed and never reacted. I grew up. So I hear you. I'm currently relapsing and not sure what to do, and the fatigue is real. To relapse like this at 34, I just wonder if maybe meds are the answer at this point
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>>514970815
>I dont want to tell you what to do but I know how you feel man.
Thank you anon
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>>514970584
...flouride?
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>>514971069
Alot of bros are going through hard times. I tell all the little homies to get comfortable and get a hobby haha. We have another lifetime here. We are in this together
>>514971108
Sounds cheesy but I gave myself like PTSD and a mental break because I was so on edge for so long. Again its cheesy but I have been in that mindset. Peak schizo me.
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>>514970917
I have my own business, so it is not economical. I work for myself. I think maybe our problems are the same, only on two ends of the spectrum. I panic, you feel helpnessness. Have you tried mindfulness? This saved my life when I was younger, I'm only relapsing now. Being in the moment is the answer to everything. When we are in our heads (panic in my case, helplessness in yours), we drift away from what's actually real.
The truth is currently, we are by our computers. I currently observe fear in me. Maybe you observe helplessness. Next, we need to ask ourselves what we want to do, not what we are compelled to do. And then we enjoy the small things in life.

This was how I operated for so long until this rumination got a hold of me...
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>>514970584
because dentists know their life is a lie. at least "doctors" are compensated by huge amounts of money for their grief. dentists, not so much
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SSRIs allow the simulation of the emotion of happiness while making it nearly impossible to orgasm. Obviously this can only positively affect NPCs, but more concerning is that they are responsible for the insane gooning extreme descent into degeneracy that has become popular.
Literally stop taking your meds.
Also when you stop taking them, the idea of killing yourself will be euphoric.
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>>514965352
Anaïs Rizzo
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>>514968373
>>514970584
>>514970763
what is wrong with you guys you're going to ignore all the testimonies of people who's lives were saved with these drugs? you still have to work on yourself but they stabilize your brain and stop you from slipping further into despair.
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>>514968038
Well you aren't denying that they are demonic.
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>>514965281
https://youtu.be/lckf6aOA0Ps?si=O_CRZ7za2vjIi6Go
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>>514965406
Smart post
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>>514966034
Snappy comeback, simp. All women are dumb, if you were smarter you would already know this.
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>>514971428
Mindfulness works but mostly for people who have hope... I need to find a state of hope which trough accepting how little my destination will be and once I have this clear, the exercise can work...

My holplessness is so great that I wish that someone tried to rob me so I could kill this person or be killed and end this shit forever but, I guess this work will be great if I can do it, I don't think it will bring me resources but, at least I'll have a sense of accomplishment...
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>>514967700
Take a sample and get it tested. File a police report.
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I was on them for a few months and they didn't help with depression just made me sweaty and constipated.
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>>514971469
>muh conscience
rarely a factor in the enire industry, but I can see it messing with a fluoride addled dentist.
>>514971261
Yeah. Google your fave SSRI molecule and look for the F ions.
>>514971592
You're an idiot, it's clear the lobotomy is in full effect. How many "people" can you find that worship Childrens Hospitals and Child Services? The testimonials of brainwashed morons is hardly useful. Probably a few, sharing the same or similar levels of brain damage.
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>>514968685
You feel depressed because you feel helpless. You know what you have to do but the scale on which it needs to be done is so large that you don't know where to start.
Either do your smart part to help humanity as a greater whole despite the personal consequences or continue to wallow in despair waiting for someone else to come along and do it.
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ok... from the same niggas that told me to eat horse paste and drink their own piss
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>>514972114
why are u being such a fucking moron here what does worshp have to do with this, SSRIs have PROVEN to help millions of people worldwide with their issues
>the conflicting battle between hypnosis and physiology play out
u are too stupid to understand that the power of suggestion along with a strong ssri can have amazing effects
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>>514972524
>SSRIs have PROVEN t
The holocaust was proven. You're an idiot.
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>>514972709
Stop being so rude and what do you have against them? They study them before fully releasing them in test studies. Millions of people have attested to how they work.
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They keep me from getting mood swings and anxiety attacks. When society returns to a natural order and I don’t have to be a 9 to 5 paper pusher to pay my rent I’ll stop taking them, in the mean time stop blaming the victim for needing to find a way to adjust to a maladjusted society.
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>>514972524
ssris have not been proven to help shit. if someone believes they have the tools they need, along with counseling, they see results. they've shown placebos do the same without numbing you to your own feelings and disconnecting you from your soul.
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>>514971428
to add about what I said:
mindfulness works for people who have hope because it is the idea of surpassing your current emotions due to the broader idea of your life, so you let the temporary issue go because you have broader perspective...
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>>514972808
>out of all the people on the planet, medical jews are least likely to falsify proof
You really are a moron. If this isn't a troll, then my advice is
>just keep boosting
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>>514972888
Counseling is just as Jewish as SSRIs. No psychologist in the history of psychology has ever cured anyone of anything.
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>>514971815
I know how you feel. Unironically, mindfulness helped me, but it will sound obnoxious for me to harp on it. FWIW, I described my life above. It was emotional hell for the first 25 years of my life and I was a mess. I thought and tried every way out you can think of.

At 25, I tried guided mindfulness. Focusing on sensations in my body and keeping my attention on that, instead of existential dread, saved me.
Instead of thinking about my situation, how hopeless I was, how everyone around me knew I was hopeless and how there wasn't a way out, I just thought about the tingling sensation in my body. I thought about how I was going to drink water because I was thirsty.
When dread came back, I would flinch and draw my focus back to what I was doing.
Gradually, I did the things I wanted to do. If I felt uncomfortable at home, I'd leave and rather walk aimlessly outside than stay inside against my will. I'd listen to birds, feel the wind and just enjoy the moment. I was still hopeless, I just stopped thinking about it because being mindful felt so much better.

This type of mindfulness saved my life, but also gave me OCD, because the dread would resurface randomly. I could lock the door and get a flash of how my mind *could* be. I'd freeze and need to "lock the door correctly with the right mindset" so I could move on. Replaced one hell with another. "Just right OCD," it's called. But that was infinitely more preferable than the situation prior.

Sharing my experience FWIW. The guided meditation I tried was through an app I was recommended.
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>>514965326
The gape is yours as well as your entire damned "family"'s.
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>>514965281
SSRIS PERMANENTLY SHUT OFF SEX DRIVE AND LOWER TESTOSTERONE
SSRIS ARE CHEMICAL CASTRATION
SSRIS ARE USED ON "PROBLEM" POPULATIONS
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>>514971592
>stop you from slipping further into despair.
Again, what the fuck does this even mean?
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>>514972848
being mentally lobotomized is most often regarded as being helped or cured. This is the actual ruse.
The people who lose their intellect a lot harder than you do, always suffer worse from the SSRIs. Those who can abandon, or never really had a generous IQ always find relief in being made more stupid.
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>>514973101
maybe you're running from something...

mindfulness works for people who have hope because it is the idea of surpassing your current emotions due to the broader idea of your life, so you let the temporary issue go because you have broader perspective...
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>>514965281
Her ass is depressing, so here's something to cheer you up so you don't have to take SSRIs
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>>514973080
no look I'm not trolling but they do testing for it and they have test groups, also they have millions of testimonies worldwide like >>514972848 with personal exp about how they work
can u stop being rude for one moment and tell me why u have such a problem with them?
>>514972888
Fake news many anons are on them and it helps but u also have to put in effort
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>>514969499
same for me but SNRI's
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>>514965281
>*FART*
>PFUBRUPWAPUPUPERRRRT
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>>514973257
You put it eloquently on how it's people just trying to make themselves dumber. I see it a lot here in BC.
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>>514973417
>Fake news
He didn't even post an article...
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>>514973417
{{{PEOPLE}}} LIE, MORON. READ IT AGAIN UNTIL YOU GET IT.
>>514973534
It's rough man. BC is a huge target because it's (was) a white people paradise. Now they've only been addled with shitculture, all kinds of drugs, degeneracy and it's all laser focused on the whites. Meanwhile, they keep pumping filthy jeets to replace the generational whites and their children.
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>>514973417
>many anons
you mean kikes/jeets/elgin afb shills
the rest of us are autistic millenials who were assaulted at birth by vaccines and circumcision.
>>514973082
you dont need counseling if you're depressed, you need therapy. you can do therapy with nobody else involved
therapy: working out, eating right, abstaining from porn and drugs. that's therapy. maybe do a night of shrooms on the beach. ez.
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>>514973781
>Millions of people lie in test groups and personal testimonies
I think u might be the liar....
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>>514970501
Ignore these faggots, Anon, I'm proud of you.
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>>514973082
Psychology is meant to identify and lobotomize dissenters so they do not take action against the cause of their aggravation.
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>>514973859
Oh yeah I make billions of dollars trying to convince idiots online that their incredible stupidity is killing them, while they're hypnotized to believe the opposite.
What does "conflict of interest" mean? What's this "interest"?
Where the fuck were you for the past few years? (Likely "not all there")
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>>514974140
look I just don't see why u have such a hatred for these things they helped so many people.
Also what is this "hypnosis" u keep referring to. If someone's brain is causing them mental issues the pills can fix them
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>>514973311
> mindfulness works for people who have hope because it is the idea of surpassing your current emotions due to the broader idea of your life
No. That's rumination.
Mindfulness is entirely about not thinking. No broader life. No hope. No hopelessness. Nothing. You observe. Instead of thinking "I am hopeless," you think "I observe I have a hopeless feeling, and it tingles in my back."

It lets you come out of the rumination a bit and pursue what you want. You'll begin pursuing your hobbies more effectively. If I hadn't had these skills, I'd probably be on SSRIs and drugs a long time ago. I did resort to alcohol when I was 24-25.
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>>514974322
>I just don't see
This is the point. You're way too far gone. Who's to say you even had a chance, even before the chemical lobotomy pills.
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>>514973443
Congrats fren. Stay strong. The hardship is behind you now.
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>Be me, doctor
>Know what SSRI Discontinuation Syndrome does to a motherfucker.
>Know it's forever the school shooter drug because no one warns anyone when putting them on SSRIs.
It may not be a big spooky lizard illuminati but google Antidepressant discontinuation syndrome. It's a lot worse than what it says on the surface. It can last upwards of +5 years.
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>>514974651
what does hypnosis mean when u refer to it and what about the guys in here WHO SAY IT HELPED THEM. IT SAVED THEIR LIVES.
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>>514973781
Just one block up my street is a rehabilitation housing center and next to it is a witness protection center for homeless people, they're all white so it's obvious targeting with law fare and propaganda.
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>>514974322
I dont want to put you down with this but reading your perspectives on this topic shows that you're not comprehending things clearly. That's because of drug abuse.
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>>514965281
wait uh... is that a woman's asshole haha?
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>>514965281
I knew somebody who loved me once. A great trad wife. But she had anxiety. SSRIs changed all of that. Now she's a tard wife. A total brainless whore. Drinking, smoking, getting tats, fucking homeless guys, fucking niggers from facebook, getting a cat when she's allergic to cats, etc. I'm raising our daughter alone.

Thanks, SSRIs.

I look forward to all of the hopeless dipshit women who respond to this. Please wash your mouth out with buckshot before clicking reply. Thanks in advance.
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>>514977029
It's hard to admit that you made a retarded choice and put the blame elsewhere
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>>514965281
I don't care. I want women to suffer. I hope they suffer.
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>>514977127
>normal
>takes pills
>stops being normal
>"HURR DURR YEW BLAME IN DUH RONG DENG"
No, please, keep going. I'd love to hear your theory.
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>>514965406
Does it really matter though?
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I go to my doctor for a number of health problems and it's like pulling teeth to get any prescription for anything. Except SSRi's he will prescribe them for any reason. I could just ask, hey can I get some SSRi's for fun and he would hand them out like candy. He has even said they are a gift from god. Fucking looney piece of shit.
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>>514977429
this. same boat, been raising my daughter by myself. she never met her.
>normal girl
>her mom hates the idea of her leaving home
>suggests she must be depressed at any given moment (normal mood shit)
>convinces her to get on ssris keeping it secret from me
women shouldnt have rights...
>turns from normal to drug addict retard abusive cunt
her mom loved that part.
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>>514977429
Correlation doesn't equal causation. She was broken from the beginning, or they didn't do a correct diagnosis, in which case, you are not responsible for the outcome.
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>>514977029
So what did it do make her drunk 24/7?
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>>514977909
>>514977889
it re wires their brain. you can usually tell if they no longer feel effects of weed. if a chick says "it doesnt do anything to me, i do like uppers though" fucking run.
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>>514965281
>SSRIS ARE EVIL DEMONIC BULLSHIT
Fuck off asshole
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>>514965487
This. OP has no taste
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>>514965281
>These drugs take YEARS of careful tapering to get off
what? I was on 60mg of the stuff and kicked it cold turkey
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>>514974403
it isn't rumination, I'm saying that in essence, you clear your mind due to this idea that you have a full "perspective of your mind" as in what I describe, I'm talking about what backs up the fact that you let something be "tefall" like and not ruminate, let it trough...

If you're in my case, being jumped by a criminal with a gun in a public space where he have to use it to kill and you have a knife, you go for it, because that's the apex of my existence, nothing will get better than killing him or being killed. there isn't wife, country, home, family... my family treats like I'm a pet, so, dying will make their lives better economically.
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>>514978027
no, hes right about that part, theyre bullshit. they supposedly rebalance brain chemistry but no one gets any kind of brain test before their prescription for SSRI, its chemically shooting in the dark
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>no ass
>mouth breather
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I abused benzos and ssri's for a decade before I passed out on Xanax while frying eggs. Woke up next to a puddle of oil about an inch away from my face. The lucid nightmares were fucking awful too.
Now I just drink and smoke weed.
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>>514965487
Nanancy
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>>514965281
I thought you were supposed to taper in a way so that you don't get brain zaps.
You're fucking right, the taper should probably take years
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>>514969835
>I think my issue is that I can't feel emotions.
Yeah
Definitely don't take SSRIs then.
It will only make things worse if anything.

>My emotion is nothing but fear. This is my only problem.
Sounds like something benzos or alcohol could help. That's a whole other can of worms though.
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>>514977869
>taking SSRIs and keeping it secret from me
Yeah, same.

>I'm thinking about taking prozac
>Oh no! No no no no no!
>No, it's no big deal! It won't be like it was with your mom!
>No please! Don't do it!
>It's okay! Really! Prozac has changed a lot since then! And it will be a much lower dosage! (It wasn't. People on 10mg suffered serious side effects. She was taking 40mg.)
>Oh god no! You don't know what you're doing! This isn't going to end well at all!
>WELL. TOO BAD. I'VE ALREADY BEEN TAKING IT FOR 3 MONTHS.
I've dealt with people who are being gripped extra hard by an addiction. Every person in my family has had one at some point. It's like they're possessed by an actual demon. This was no exception. Her hair was standing up on end whenever I tried to talk to her about quitting it. My mom's hair did the same thing when she was on prozac. Wild shit.

Four months after that conversation, the police were escorting her out of the home at 4am. She hasn't been back since. At least not without the police getting involved.

I haven't read every comment here, but the ones that are defending SSRIs, seem to be doing it completely irregardless to what's being said in the contrary. They mindlessly support anybody who's in favor of the pills, and mindlessly boo anybody who doesn't. They're hopelessly dependent on the drugs. And since they're prescribed by a dawktur, you can't force them to stop taking them.

These therapists are completely okay with destroying families. As long as the person is more focused on their career, then the therapist believes the pills are a good thing.

>>514977889
I don't give a shit who is to blame. I want my daughter to have her mother back. I want my family to be like it was before but that's never going to happen because hippie dippie retard democrap doctors fed mind altering pills to a trad wife/mother and you can't tell me there wasn't an ulterior motive to all of it. There are other solutions to anxiety. SSRIs have alternatives.
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>>514969835
400mg of L-theanine will keep you calm but not in the bad drowzy kind of way, it will give you focus and facial aesthetics will become more defned for some rason
only downsides are less appetite and occasional shits
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I tried one of them (vortioxetine) three times for 6 months and they did -nothing-
like absolutely nothing, no effect whatsoever

>>514969835
So you didn't even get on SSRIs and you sound like you are already on them for years
As the anon above said, maybe benzos should help. They will tone everything down and make you calm so buyer beware
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>>514979598
same. women are far too trusting in medical tards. a lot of men as well. it's kind of funny, because i've noticed the belly up retard stuff being that i'm an IT guy/electrician. theyll tell me about some obscure program they use and proceed to tell me "ah youre an expert at that already" when i've never heard of it. Doctors are the same. psychologists are definitely the same. they get people in weakened states, and tell them it's not their fault they make shitty decisions. "here have this chemical, everyone does it"
so many hopelessly addicted tards out there taking things up to lithium. fucking lithium.
the scary thing is the glazed over shark looking eyes they get, and start calling you by your name instead of "babe" or "darling". this hellscape we live in these days is almost unbearable. i'm just trying to make sure my daughter is as set properly as i can make her. hopefully this time in 10 years i'll be spoiling grandchildren who arent vaccinated or on any pharma drugs.
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>>514965958
No matter how shitty your situation is, SSRIs will not improve it. Look up the actual studies on these meds. They are no more effective than placebo, and the list of side-effects is horrifying. I personally took them and ended up feeling like a zombie. Quit cold turkey and felt more like myself within 24 hours.

You're better off fixing your diet, exercising, and sorting out your problems on your own.
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>>514965591
>Low libido, Post-SSRI ED, can't reach orgasm
>No side effects
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>>514980386
>i'm an IT guy/electrician
Same also. Is "single programmer/electrician father on /pol/" a thing now?

>women are far too trusting in medical tards
They really are. It's fucked up because I gave the same exact advice her theRapist gave, YEARS before she gave it, and my ex even pointed it out to me, but for some reason, my input was still meaningless compared to her pay2play medical friend. I don't have the degree but I still give the same advice, and somehow mine is still wrong? But no, the blond bitch has a rich daddy who paid for her education and she recommends SSRIs, so fuck what happens in our family I guess? I hope that bitch gets what she deserves.

>hopefully this time in 10 years i'll be spoiling grandchildren
Serious question. What is your strategy for having a family anymore? It's just me and my daughter and dating at this point seems impossible. But that could also be because I never invested in status shit. Women have become completely self-centered and only care about shallow surface level garbage.

My current strategy is to find a nice Filipina woman. They're just as interested in material, surface level shit as white women, but they're actually honest about it and can be loyal. I hope she can stay loyal when she gets her green card.
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>>514982824
kek maybe it is? i think it's because we notice patterns, and those things are useful in troubleshooting/being creative.
>theRAPIST
kek
i hate women who brag about college and shit. instant red flag for me. i trust zero things a female in a position of power says.
>how to deal with being a single father
you're just responsible for her life, bro. i thought about finding her a new "mom" even briefly dated what i thought was mom material, but this chick turned out to be a typical lie to get in type of scumbag. women are able to be completely self centered because there are zero consequences for them. women love single dads, it's like catnip bro. i've never had so many women chase me in my life. especially any of the moms of children she's friends with. i mean i am persued, hardcore. they do it right in front of their husbands too. i dont entertain this filth, but it's a good confidence boost. . i thought about finding an asian qt but i cant bring myself to justify ruining my genes.
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>>514978189
That can not be understated. You are a good leaf.
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>>514984950
>but i cant bring myself to justify ruining my genes
Because creating more white women is worth it?

Depending on the region, asian women hold more traditional values than americans. Filipinos still believe in evil spirits and all of that shit, BUT they also hardcore follow the church. Ironically, they're a better trad wife than white women now. I'm ready to start nutting in some of them because I want a big family. I tried the solo woman, small family thing and it turned out to be bullshit. Now I want a harem of asian hotties to have lots of kids with. It's awesome because they start talking about having kids right off the bat.

>how to deal with being a single father
>you're just responsible for her life, bro.
That wasn't really my question. I'm killing it with this fatherhood thing. She just got her first monthly a couple months ago, and that day was rough as hell, but that was the worst and even that is all in order now. I'm just wondering how the fuck I can expand my family when women have become such untrustworthy subhuman scum.
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>>514985652
just the fact that they do zero brain chemistry tests prior to prescribing brain chemistry altering drugs should speak volumes by itself.
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>>514986699
lol bro mine has been getting shark week this year too.
>harem of asians
maybe, i suppose my genes are pretty dominant and i could do with a harem. i want a large family too, thought i could pump tons out of this chick but she was too retarded. fuck ssris
>women are untrustworthy subhuman scum
yeah it's sad. i'm trying to figure that out too. the internet and giving them rights were both a huge mistake.
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>>514974806
You're a fucking idiot and possibly chiropractor-tier.
>I stopped paxil cold turkey and then I got a bad headache for a few days
Just use zoloft for fuck's sake. Jesus.
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>>514965958
Lift every 48 hours. Consume 30g of gelatin/collagen per day. Use CBD oil.
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>>514974693
thx, np
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>>514965958
Get off the internet.
Eat good food
Get sunlight (lol)
Get in shape
Get plenty of sleep.
Get a job that involves manual labor.

Start there.
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>>514965281
I'm down to 35mg Venlafaxine now. I feel much better.
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>>514986908
>shark week
That's pretty good. I was calling it hell week but I don't think anybody outside of the armed forces would get that one. Luckily her insanity only lasted for a day, but god that was awful. All she wanted to do was fight and she's normally a very well behaved kid. I've never seen anything like it.

There's a lot of things parents bitch about that turned out to be totally fine, but that first blood bath thing was completely true.

>i want a large family too, thought i could pump tons out of this chick but she was too retarded. fuck ssris
I wanted to produce more with my ex but she had epilepsy because her mother drank and smoked when she was pregnant, and I wasn't confident she could even have the one.

And, to further laugh at doctors, the only reason she got pregnant at all was because her neurologist didn't check to see if the epilepsy meds would make her birth control stop working. Guess what, it made her birth control stop working.

So between her neurologist (who started the family), her PSYCHOlogist (who destroyed the family), and myself (who is rebuilding the family), I seem to be the only one not making massive mistakes. If only they gave out degrees for not being a colossal fuckup.

Fuck SSRIs.

>>514988160
>"You're a fucking idiot"
>"Just use zoloft"
>zoloft is also an SSRI
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>514965958
>Would ssris help me? I dont want to lose my dick
faggot
punch a tree
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>>514965958
don't worry about it brahh
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>>514969074
>I think my biggest problem is not knowing what I feel.
oh yeah ssri will help you
you humongous retard
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>>514965406
No one cares about her brain. >>514966185
Satan and the fallen angels.
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>>514991623
I too had a retarded therapist telling me I was making so much progress while taking SSRIs. I was in therapy for 7 years. All the “progress” i made was from ssris covering up my problems. My life is now worse than ever and ssris or therapy didn’t help one bit.
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went on zoloft for ptsd
it made me take 2+ hours to cum
stopped cold turkey after about a year
very dark time in my life
shit is poison
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>>514965281
70 million people are taking them. they are obviously safe and very effective. oh, whats that? the one thing doesnt necessarily prove the other? oh, wow yea you are right. But, have you considered that in a country of 340 million it is not unreasonable to suggest that the 70 million ssri users are probably just npc's? They arent people like you think they are they are people like jews think you are.
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>>514992224
>Satan and the fallen angels.
and the jews whom do their bidding
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>>514992368
theres no medicine for ptsd, bro. get right with Jesus if you want that cured.
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>>514992333
therapy is a scam. Men don't get better by talking, they get better through action. Solving their problems, bettering themselves. Therapy is a scam, might work for fags and womyn but only because it reinforces delusions.
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>>514992656
it is indeed a scam. 30 minutes a week is not enough time to make any realistic progress.
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>>514992656
this. if you want to talk shit out talk to jesus basically
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>>514992726
STFU you Jewish shill faggot. Therapy is the original Netflix model subscribe for life bitch. It's a scam. Invented by literal Jews.

Imagine if therapists were real doctors and 50% of the broken legs never healed, that's 'therapy' and muh progress.
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>>514992333
Did you have anybody in your life telling you not to take them? Because those may have been your only true friends.

I want to ridicule you for not listening to them, but it seems like you understand what happened, so I'll offer my condolences instead. Allow me to check those trips for you, fren.
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>>514978127
>my family treats like I'm a pet, so, dying will make their lives better economically.
Don't know if you read my original post ITT.

You still have self-pity. A big part in overcoming it for me was to forgive everything. Mindfulness allowed me to do it.
I used to feel so sorry for myself.
My father raised me as his daughter. He had four sons. My mother wanted a daughter but couldn't get one. She chose me to be her favorite, and my dad used me to punish her.
He turned my brothers against me from childhood. My failure allowed him to control my mother. As long as I failed and was miserable, he had the upper hand over my mother. He told our extended family about my failures. Any success was quickly shot down.
I barely wanted to drop out of first week in high school. Anywhere I went, people talked about me as the failure from a great family. Everyone was invested in me being the failure. They could all project their shortcomings on me. My younger brother reassured himself that "at least he wasn't me" any time he failed.

I never did any drugs.
I never did anything bad.
All I did was hate myself, feel fight-or-flight and never left my room.
At 15, I stopped eating, hoping to kms that way. I was too scared to even leave my room. At 16, I stopped leaving my room because I didn't want to walk past my dad. If I did, he would show discomfort.
At 17, my uncle bought a business with my oldest brother and my entire family said I needed to work in it and be put to good use. I was forced to work in the summers 12 hours a day with no regular schedule. The moment they needed labor, I had to wake up and be ready to spend my entire day working. At 18 this work became 16 hours a day, every day.
At 21, I obsessed over a project with my uncle from Norway and it took off with his encouragement, and all money I gave back to my family.
24, that ended.
At 25, my brother bought a mansion using my money and I suffered a mental collapse and psychosis.
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>>514965281
Breh my lithium for bipolar is a million times safer than your ssri shit. Why is my condition which is a million times worse have safer meds than the shit they peddle to normie retards
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>>514965281
Flat
s
s
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>>514992888
I said it was a scam you fucking retard. Learn to read and quit drinking you fucking alcoholic irish bastard.
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>>514993214
I didn’t have anybody in my life telling me not to take ssris. I thought I was being responsible by taking ssris and going to therapy. In hindsight it was the biggest mistake of my life. Therapist did nothing but lie to me about the fake progress I was making by being drugged up. I even told my therapist I was scared of the side effects of the frugs and he basically told me to stop reading about them.
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>>514993557
dont call it my ssri shit. i hate these evil drugs.
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>>514981786
>feeling like a zombie
I hear this a lot
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>>514981786
It's not about how you feel, its about doing what your told, and completing the tasks you've been assigned.
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>>514993818
That's rough, man. I was on lexapro for a couple months when I was a teenager and I started getting ultra nuts pretty damn quick. I was threatening people's lives, filling my backpack with meat but never doing anything with it (it ended up spoiling in my backpack), screaming at the top of my lungs anytime somebody tried to talk to me about the pills, and just generally being batshit insane. Even I was shocked at how crazy I was getting. Mostly because I was no longer in control of myself. The things I was saying and doing were happening without "my consent" if that makes any sense. For example, I even threatened the life of my therapist but it wasn't a conscious decision to do it. I was just listening to myself say it as it was happening.

Eventually I was able to focus hard enough to realize my brain wasn't functioning properly and the brain altering pills I was taking may have something to do with it. The doctors in the office basically told me all I could do was wait for it to leave my system and hope there's no long term side effects.

About a week later, I was a lot calmer and I was back in control, but I was shaking really badly and felt really weak. My family showed me the backpack full of meat and I had no explanation. I honestly didn't even remember putting the meat in there at the time. That was some wild ass shit.

Fuck SSRIs and anybody who pushes them.
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>>514965487
You're a Nigger.
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>>514995020
>I honestly didn't even remember putting the meat in there at the time.
Fucking lol and scary at the same time.... As someone who's never done drugs but suffered long term psychosis as a form of self-help, I think I understand what you went through
Never have I done something unconsciously, but I can easily see how you could probably get to that
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>>514995640
It's true what they say. When it comes to crazy pills, if you're not crazy when you take them, then they'll make you crazy.

>suffered long term psychosis as a form of self-help
What did you mean by this?
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>>514995020
I agree. The actions I took when on ssris were not fully mine.
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>>514965406
She fuck meat of course she’s a dumb cunt.
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>>514978907
bruh depending on (you) it can be near impossible to get benzos, i gave up after years of trying to get any real help and became a alcoholic ...even then when i was going through DTs they wouldn't give me a single emergence librium to stop the seizures.
If you're a white male the only thing that will be prescribed are SSRIs
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>>514965281
Psychologists get the rope
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For some reason these types of threads always attract narcissists giving shit advice, hoping you to engage with their shitty advice so they can tell you how weak you are if said normie-tier advice didn't work for you.

I really wonder what makes them use these sites though, I really start getting the impression they are dopamine-addicted and can't stop coming here lmao.
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>>514996364
>What did you mean by this?
I focused on an inward emotion that kept me in peace in the face of abuse. When people spoke to me, I was focusing on an inward emotion that calmed me down. I would respond while focusing on that, not on them.
All I got was abuse from people, but as long as my mind was on the inward calm, I could respond in kind.
This worked to help me emotionally detach from the abuse, but it also made me delusional. I did this every day, 24/7, for 8+ years because it felt great. I felt invinsible. But I would also do shit and not give a fuck, like I wanted to start exercising so I bought a membership at the most exclusive gym and I didn't talk to anybody, not even the person behind the desk when they tried making conversation, because I didn't want to invite people in, because I was focusing inward and had nothing else going for me. I didn't want to be exposed. People said I seemed weird, some were interested in me. I just grinded every day, focusing inward. All I did was focusing on that inner emotion of calm and doing what I wanted to do. Worked great but I wouldn't say I was human. I could mimic emotions while feeling nothing, all I felt was that inner calm that I focused on for years
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>>514969835
>>514979705
anon is on to something here,
L-theanine + Ashwaganda for a few weeks should make a noticeable change in your energy.
your cortisol is probable through the roof , ashwaganda help significantly reduce your cortisol response to stressful situations
And most importantly it increases testosterone and libido unlike every other mood stabilizer which turns you into a eunuch
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Keto fixes mental illness
Carnivore fixes mental illness
Read books by Georgia Ede or Chris Palmer.
Read about Roblox’s founder’s son, Matt Baszucki and the Baszucki Foundation.
Ketones fix you brain’s mitochondria, which in turn makes your brain use more energy.
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>>514999264
stuff like this should just be common knowledge. the fact that people think drugs or the medical industry HELP FUCKING ANYTHING is insanity. the medical industry can fix a broken bone and that’s it. everything else they do is detrimental.
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>>514965281
stop being a faggot, brainwormed frog throat
you're a fucking complete schizo idiot
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>>514965281
Wtf is ssri? I would sex her by the way
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>>514999264
>Keto fixes mental illness
>Carnivore fixes mental illness
"fix" No,
but it is a incredibly powerful tool to experience rapid noticeable psychical improvements which provide much needed contrast so you realize just how shitty you felt and how much better you could feel and with that you have the fuel to make the permanent change to your lifestyle necessary for long term and sustainable health.

Use keto to flush you out and as a metaphorical line in the sand to get your shit together and cure yourself of habitual dopamine farming through a carbohydrate based reward system.
Once cured of your sugar addiction you can reincorporate complex carbs back into your diet so long as you are maintaining 1g of protein per pound of lean mass and not going into caloric surplus (provided you don't eat complete garbage) you'll be significantly better feeling than trying to maintain carnivore long term .
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>>514999663
kys
since they won't be able to save you anyways?
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>>514965958
SSRIs may make you feel different, possibly better, for a short time after taking them. Then you have to keep upping your dose for them to work. Eventually you will have to take other beds because the SSRIs aren't working.
You will likely develop a dependency for the drugs and undoubtedly get bad side effects.
You may be better served changing your diet. Try a ketogenic diet first. Start exercising regularly as well.
Your gut health is very much a factor when it comes to releasing serotonin and other feel good chemicals.
Also, try picking up some hobbies and setting goals
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>>514999264
gay homo
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>>514965958
Paralyzed yet somehow independent
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>>514968038
The worldly person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolish to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.
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>>514968038
>>europeon can't into etymology
it's a colloquialism for malice, you are the one kookifying it
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>>515000703
What the fuck are you even trying to say



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