Sanskrit is German on steroids.Apparently Fichte and Shankara had a lot in common.https://youtu.be/nBQTm7m7u8g
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>>517825698There's an old ancient language in UK called welsh which also shares similarities with Sanskrit
>>517826561In what way is it similar? I haven't looked at Welsh but it is an Indo-European language. I think it's totally mind-blowing to learn about languages, both the fact they were very complex and have become simpler and dumber over time, and the fact languages have diverged from common roots. I have looked a little at Old English, it was very different from Modern English, it was an inflected language like German and Russian, it was similar to Icelandic. I said German on steroids because German inflects for 4 cases and 2 numbers but Sanskrit inflects for 8 cases and 3 numbers.https://youtu.be/qxOJ4p8e7NQ
>>517826887>In what way is it similar? They are the ancient poos, the first streetshitters to shit the roads of Wales, from the begining of the bronze age on the islands
>>517825698Except it isn’t Gemanic. I imagine it being closer to Russian than German based on language experts and comparison.
>>517826981I meant that it's an inflected language, but more so than German. I imagine more people know some German than know some Russian on this board. Each German noun has 8 inflections, each Sanskrit noun has 24 inflections.
>>517826561I think Lithuanian is the closest modern language to classical Sanskrit. You'd think some Indian language would be closer but nope. Lithuanians are the master jeets
same word as in the OP but in German, both mean "river"
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>>517825698I speak both Sanskrit and German and you are wrong kek. Two languages sharing similar vocabulary means very little. Sanskrit has 8-9 declensions and modern German only has 4.
>>517826887Often the most simple way to get your point across is the most efficient and effective. Languages were needlessly complex because they were still figuring it out. It's like a tree losing branches that don't produce.
>>517827266> Lithuanian is literally Sanskrit broNo it isn't. Most Indoaryan languages are closer to Sanskrit than Lithuanian. The closest one being "Gujarati". Or you know... just Sanskrit since we still learn and speak it formally kek. http://www.elinguistics.net/Compare_Languages.aspx
>>517827438Read the thread, and not just one post, before replying next time, I've already addressed what I meant a few times. I meant they're both inflected languages.>Sanskrit has 8-9 declensions and modern German only has 4.Yeah, that's why I said ON STEROIDS.So what exactly am I wrong about? German is inflected, unlike English, Sanskrit is inflected, but more than German. Hence to people on here who know some German, Sanskrit is German on steroids. You're shitting up the thread with your laziness.
>>517827627I don't think you know German or Sanskrit. I actually do. Why are you shitting up the board with these ridiculously wrong and stupid threads?
I've heard that the grammar of languages have been getting simpler over time
>>517827483that's fascinatingI'm reminded of the greeks who were seeking, in a rather abstract way, a good way to find truths and along came maths (and later Bacon)I think there's nothing else I would love more in the world than the opportunity to meet these pre-ancient intellectuals
>>517827527Is it like Latin where we don't know how to pronounce some of it?
>>517825698INDIANS DON'T DESERVE SANSKRIT
>>517827483You often see this kind of cope from native English speakers, it's nothing but ego protection, and no actual argument. Modern English is not equally as good at getting across information as inflected languages, or even better. Modern English is just a glorified pidgin language. English can never be a philosophical language like Ancient Greek. Is English more efficient and effective for its purposes as basically a pidgin language joining together the plebs of the world such as on 4chan, yes. Are all languages equal, as brainwashed linguistics students will tell you? No. Classical languages and pidgins are not equal, but they serve different purposes.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/516200433/#516204017>>>/lit/24745632https://youtu.be/qqJI7SdS9Gg
>>517825698BTW cock worshipping is aborginal culture, read this.
>>517827483>Languages were needlessly complex because they were still figuring it out. It's like a tree losing branches that don't produce.
>>517828210>that's fascinatingYeah, baseless assertions can be fascinating to unthinking people.
>>517825698>has a over complex language>still shits in the streetskek
>>517828475They are no Aryan. Aryan created Sanskrit just gave them language and fucked some brownoid women women in Afghanistan and Pakistan and left.
>>517828475What makes you think the people who spoke Sanskrit in the Vedic period are the same people inhabiting India today? Only a hundred years from now the brown people who inhabit Germany will be saying they're the descendants of Hegel, Fichte etc. Similarly just because Romance languages evolved from Vulgar Latin doesn't mean Classical Latin and Honduras are synonymous.
>>517828337hmm does it follow that even older languages like sanskrit and welsh are even better for philosophy?
>>517828861I don't know. I wasn't comparing older to newer, but more complex and refined to simpler and dumber. It's not necessarily the case that languages have always gone from more complex to simpler, even if that's the overall trend. Sanskrit might be even better as a philosophical language than Ancient Greek. Ancient Greek might or might not be a better philosophical language than Proto-Indo-European. The Greek society which produced geniuses such as Plato didn't only use a language, but also contributed to creating and shaping the language.
>>517828256Latin is pronounced as written, same with Finnish and Sanskrit.
>>517828425>Brainlet with no pattern recognition doesn't see that language becomes more simplistic over time and this pattern is increasingly obvious with the Internet and globalization Ong u ngmi senpai
>>517829483So? What's your point?
>>517829483So? Your assertion wasn't that languages have become simpler, your assertion was "Often the most simple way to get your point across is the most efficient and effective. Languages were needlessly complex because they were still figuring it out. It's like a tree losing branches that don't produce.".
>>517829216fair enougha little sad that english, the dominant language, is supoptimal
>>517826887Even LatinThe thing about these ancient languages, while they are more complex in terms of rules, they often better “map” to the actual thought process of a human far better than most simplified modern languages do.
>>517829887Its a matter of reduction to the lowest common denominator. If your language is heavy with grammatical forms and you are trying to communicate with a speaker who has less complex grammar the "pidgin" language is always less complex than the original form.
>>517830348Nothing sad about it. You can study German, Latin, Greek, Sanskrit or whatever. Really only native English speakers are sad about it and do all kinds of coping and seething. All of us who already speak two or more languages aren't sad that the languages we speak have different uses. Likewise English has its use, and Ancient Greek has a different use.
>>517829887"Broadly speaking, the short words are the best, and the old words best of all.”-- Winston Churchill
>>517830442>Even LatinSpeak in complete sentences. I have no idea what you're trying to say, Grugg.
>>517828857no they wont, they will say that they are not "kartoffel" and are the new germans>>517828668aryan is just a wehrmacht pysop to get jeets to fight for them
>>517830675So? What's your point? Make up your mind what your point is, then try to communicate it and argue for it. You forget what your thought was two sentences into typing. Stop cooming.
>>517826887>Indo-EuropeanA 19th century German myth which is impossible to substantiate
>>517831080No. They look at different languages and reconstruct a hypothesized unattested (no written records) common ancestor language using the so-called comparative method. That's how they came up with the hypothesis of Proto-Indo-European, and all the languages which are believed to have evolved from that are said to be the Indo-European languages.
>>517826561Gaelic.
>>517827483this is bullshithigher grammatical complexity --> higher semantic specificity --> stronger ability to discuss the extremely specific, the abstractlanguage losing its grammatical complexity is a sign of decline and devolution of the people. they no longer talk about the complex or the abstract so they stop using the forms required to do that.chinese for example used to be a highly inflective language, influenced by tibetan (which was heavily influenced by... sanskrit) now there's no inflection at all. the reason for that is that china went from strong (kingdoms, dynasties, bureaucracy, philosophy, trade, etc.) to slaves sublimates to the mongols and it has taken centuries to recover from that. they stop speaking their own language and instead speak basic pidginised language to accommodate their new rulers (who aren't going to learn the language of their subordinates). you don't need highly complicated and specific grammar if you're a grug subsistence farmer just trying to make it through the day. you live in a rural area with only rare contact with anyone outside your immediate family, whomst you only grunt commands related to the work at hand and so the language devolves. it happens fast, too: grandpa still talks like he belongs in court but little wang xiaowang is a grunting fucking retard dullard
It's simply not true that less inflected languages like English are any better or worse at expressing complex ideas. The language is used as a tool for expressing thought, and it doesn't limit the complexity of what is being expressed. New words are coined all the time.
>>517825698Hello saar, how you hangin in there?
>>517835205well, modern english has other features that make up for it like the germanic flexibility re: word creation and its borrowing of inflections/terms from latin and greek. but you can't speak about anything complex without switching into a higher (greek/latin/french) register. try explaining anything technical in pure germanic. one of the major features of the renaissance was the rediscovery and reintegration of latin and greek as the subsistence farmers started moving into cities and suddenly had free time to spend learning them... and i'm convinced that's not a coincidence. you can't create what you can't describe
>>517825698lol no, German mutated due to its substratum, while Sanskrit got loads of aspiration from its substratumclosest to Sanskrit is Lithuanian
>>517827527what these thread forget to mention is that the comparison is with European languages, no one denies Indian languages are closest to Sanskrit, they stem from them
>>517828256no, it's you English making shit up and projecting your retarded writing system onto LatinLatin had a clear set of one sign one phoneme symbols, with a couple of exceptions like K Q X
>>517835205Bullshit, brainwashed linguistics student. Classical languages and pidgin languages are not equal. What does coining of words have to do with anything? This is about syntactic precision, not meaning of words. Which word in a text is referring to which other word, a philosophical text needs to be very unambiguous in this. English uses commas in writing and pauses in speech as a crutch to unsuccessfully try to compensate for its poor grammar. Just one example, vocative, classical languages inflect the word which is in the vocative to show this, ie the person being addressed, while all English does is separate the addressee from the rest of the sentence with a comma in writing and a pause in speech.>Let's eat grandma.Aviam edamus. (aviam = grandma is the object, accusative case)>Let's eat, grandma.Avia edamus. (avia = grandma is the addressee, vocative case)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_ambiguityambiguity in syntax, sentence structurehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_ambiguityambiguity in meaning of words or phrases
>>517831080Germans called it and call it Indo-Germanisch lol
>>517835781(i'm not saying greek/latin good english bad; i just mean as we went from farm --> city we starting speaking about the complex and abstract and so required new morphology to speak about it specifically and succinctly. in this particular case we borrowed what already existed from greek/latin but we could have just as easily created our own native "germanic" morphology, but didn't.)
>>517825698I've been looking into the same thing lately. I'm not really sure how much I believe it, but it's certainly interesting.
>>517840314What? Fichte and Shankara being similar?
>>517825698Because Germanisch = Aryan
>>517831080it's literally the opposite, it's so strong they found inscriptions confirming phonetic changes that were deduced merely from descendant languages, how brown is your skin?
>>517840684meant for>>517836846
>>517825698watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtOKtOi4JZ4
>>517825698>>517826561>Retards discover the concept of language families
Get smart by Conquering six enemies of mindhttps://archive.org/details/11-upanishads-with-shankar-bhashya
>>517825698Polish has the same declination and almost the same flexal endings as sanskrit. Only thing we do not have is dual form, as it is obsolete, but it existed and some things still follow declination of dual forms. Like door or pants which are "double/plural" in singular form in Polish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandukya_Upanishad
>>517825698>Still believes in the AITWhat an insecure retarded man lol. Whatever makes you feel better I guess lol
>>517842452it's perfectly normal to believe in one of the most thoroughly demonstrated theories out there, I'm sorry you were born with feces colored skin in the cloaca of the planet
>>517840821I only know very little German.
>>517842613This shit is so cringe lol. What a weak little man.
>>517831257yes and unfortunately the idea is ridiculous for many reasons >>517836846>Germansit was called that by most people until the 1990s >>517840794believing my ancestors are the same people who occupied the area i lived in 10,000 years ago doesn't make me brownstick to wikipedia edit wars
>>517842810European science appears like magic to feces colored hominids, it's not your fault
>>517842613it hasn't been demonstrated at allless than half of all words in the "indo-german" language can be traced to the mythical language no certain remains of an indo-german civilisation have been found with archaeologists variously making them stone age farmers or pastoral herders who for an unknown reason and through a mysterious power killed every person in europethen comes the most basic fact that european languages are too different from each other to have only split around 2000BC
>>517826887>>517826981very similar actually but you probably never looked into it.anyone who's studied eastern religion realized the similarity between the word for spirit and the german word for breath.German: Atmen – Meaning "to breathe." Connection: Both derive from the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) root h1eh1tm-, related to breath or life force.Mātṛ (Sanskrit) - Mutter (German) Sanskrit: Mātṛ (मातृ) – Meaning "mother." German: Mutter – Meaning "mother." Connection: Both come from PIE meh2tērPitṛ (Sanskrit) - Vater (German) Sanskrit: Pitṛ (पितृ) – Meaning "father." German: Vater – Meaning "father." Connection: Derived from PIE ph2tḗrBhrātṛ (Sanskrit) - Bruder (German) Sanskrit: Bhrātṛ (भ्रातृ) – Meaning "brother." German: Bruder – Meaning "brother." Connection: Both stem from PIE bʰréh2tērDuḥkha (Sanskrit) - Dunkel (German) Sanskrit: Duḥkha (दुःख) – Meaning "suffering" or "unease." German: Dunkel – Meaning "dark" or "obscure." Connection: Possibly linked via PIE dʰewb-Nāman (Sanskrit) - Name (German) Sanskrit: Nāman (नामन्) – Meaning "name." German: Name – Meaning "name." Connection: From PIE h1nómn̥Jñā (Sanskrit) - Kennen (German) Sanskrit: Jñā (ज्ञा) – Meaning "to know" (root verb). German: Kennen – Meaning "to know" (as in to be acquainted with). Connection: Both derive from PIE ǵneh3-,Dant (Sanskrit) - Zahn (German) Sanskrit: Dant (दन्त) – Meaning "tooth." German: Zahn – Meaning "tooth." Connection: From PIE h1dónt-" Vṛkṣa (Sanskrit) - Werks- (German) Sanskrit: Vṛkṣa (वृक्ष) – Meaning "tree." German: Werks- (as in Werkstatt, historically linked to "work" or "creation") or related to Old High German forms for "plant." Connection: Possibly linked via PIE wérǵ-,
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>>517842845your brownness comes from the fact that unlike what Europeans and especially old-times Anglos(RIP) were known for, science and exploration, you think one of the crown achievements of European linguistics is some fringe theory
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>>517843019hilarious post, this little brown turd genuinely thinks he knows what he is talking about kek, you can tell the tiny brown turd is clueless by the fact that it starts yapping about "indo-german civilization"
>>517843149>brown turdno im a descendant of the paleolithic people who lived in my local area and presumably you are too
>>517842986Imagine pretending this hard because your entire identity is built on an illusion. I find this shit hilarious. Any reputed indologist would be laughing too. What a sad, pathetic existence lol
>>517843240>im a descendant of the paleolithic people who lived in my local areasure you are
>>517826887In the movie Prometheus there is a cut 5 minute scene between the Engineer(s) (who made humanity) and an AI cyborg made by Weylan (of weylan industries fame). The conversation is spoken entirely in our best reconstruction of the Proto-indo-european language which is the language the Engineers spoke to humanity in 10,000 years ago. At one point the AI cyborg can be seen on the ship practicing Proto-Indo-European with the world's leading expert on the subject who played a small cameo in the movie.
>>517843261>reputed indologist
>>517843036oops clipped off the first one:Ātman (Sanskrit) - Atmen (German) Sanskrit: Ātman (आत्मन्) – Meaning "self," "soul," or "essence." German: Atmen – Meaning "to breathe." Connection: Both derive from the Proto-Indo-European (PIE) root h1eh1tm-, related to breath or life force. In Sanskrit, ātman connects to the idea of the vital breath or soul, while atmen in German refers directly to breathing. The semantic link is the concept of breath as life.this is the most important one, because atman is a very important concept for jeets as it's essentially spirit, and breathe is your life force, so it's pretty obvious such an essential word shows the link. who the hell says atman for breath? the closest we have in english is atmosphere and guess where that comes from. atmos, from atman
Topgoy
>>517843279i accept your concession and puerility
>>517843384you can believe whatever you want, European science is going to keep going and you will still be a local clown village and comedic relief lol
>>517843437no it isnt there havent been any major developments in language studies due to the indo-german mythwhat part of north africa or india did you come from?
>>517843305Yes yes, it's okay. Sanskrit originated from Europe. The rest of the world had absolutely nothing going for millennia. There. Do you feel better now? Pathetic lol
>>517843521>there havent been any major developments in language studies due to the indo-german myth
The Horse, Wheel and Language largely explains this. Europeans are half from now turkey and half from now Russia/ukraine. (Lets not talk of the cromaggers). Its a little out of date in the sense that the author is still a little ambivalent about ukraine/russia being the place. German is likely an offshoot of s specific group peeling off from the substrate language approximately when another group was peeling off that would become the people who fomented the language of sanskrit.
>>517843560>no argument againsoon we will have a trinity of terrible brown posts from you
>>517843549the levels of projection are insane, it is beyond obvious you are the one here with extreme levels of petty pathetic chauvinistic denial that something may have originated outside your country: I'm Italian, do you think I'm some paragon of ancient Indo-European purity that I would defend it based on some nationalistic feelings? proto-Italic originated outside of Italy, big fucking deal, it's typically excrement colored chimpanzee filth like your kind who is extremely chauvinistic and can't accept something came outside your country
>>517843743>I'm Italian,which is why you idenitfy as a half ukrainain half turkish man
>>517843682there is no discussion going, listing a series of headcanons as you are doing isn't arguing, it's comedylet me try: the sky is brown and the earth is shaped like a bananaoh you are laughing? guess I win the argument
>>517843036Well, as I have said multiple times I only meant that it's inflected. The video I linked was just something I sprinkled on top, which happens to be another thing connecting German and Sanskrit. But yeah all Indo-European languages have a lot in common. However, as I said, my point was that for those that don't speak inflected languages but know some German Sanskrit is like German in that sense, just it does it more. Some people speak inflected languages on this board, Russian, Polish, but I'd say the largest group speak only English, and the second largest group speak other noninflected languages as native language (French, Spanish, Italian etc) and English as second language. The percentage of the total number of posters excluding Germans who speak an inflected language is pretty small, but many might know a little bit about German and its inflections.
>>517843743If only you knew you absolutely fucking retarded you sound to anyone who has any knowledge in this area. But it's okay. I understand that you need this piece for your fragile identity. Continue to believe what you want to and the intelligent people who know what they're talking about will continue to laugh at you.
>>517826561>>517826887>>517827266>>517831260I read somewhere that russian is basically sanskritBut yeah sanskrit is the original aryan indo-european languageEven wikipedia will tell you ya fucking idiots
>>517843829>you idenitfystrawman, animal-feces colored squatter in england has some trouble following arguments I see
>>517843036Also my question to him was about Welsh.
>>517843887I'm merely reporting the global academic consensus on the matter, little brown chimpanzees like you are irrelevant
>>517843887Give us a few sentences that accurately describe your opinion on the matter.
>>517843843>headcanonsim not sure if youve actually studied this at all it's called the "indo-european theory" not factits still admitted to be a theory even by your leadersi will always descend from my palaeolithic european ancestorsyou will always descend from your indian ancestors apparently
>>517843946That's not what you're doing and you know it. You know so little it's sad. It's okay though. It's obvious from your responses that this is a crucial part of your very fragile identity, you can continue to believe what you believe.
>>517844022>feces colored chimpanzee does notunderstand what the word theory means in European scienceslike clockwork
>>517844067okay so you haven't actually studied thischeers!
>>517844065you are the one so blown the fuck out and humiliated by the idea that your language originated outside your country and obviously projecting since your identity entirely depends on it, since anyone looking at your modern country vomits his bowels out by sheer disgust, hence hiding your flag even here out of utter shame
>>517844009Sanskrit originated in India. If you're looking at this from a white supremacist angle, you will not be able to accept it. That's all there is to it. If you truly would like to know more, the information is readily available through the works of countless reputed indologists, if you don't, you can continue to believe what you do.
>>517844129unfortunately for you on top of being fluent in two ancient indo-european languages I know what I'm talking about: you are literally claiming you descend from paleolithic locals, you are a walking clown that has already completely destroyed any chance of anyone taking you seriously, might as well start claiming you were dropped (on your head) from a spaceship yesterday
>>517844158It's okay I'm sorry for disturbing your fragile identity you've spent so long building based on bullshit. Believe what you want to. MUH SUPERIOR EUROPEAN RACE lol
>>517844275>Sanskrit originated in India.opinion completely and utterly rejected from every single academic except the clowns from India who, after being conquered and humiliated by a handful of anglos just a few centuries ago, can't accept the same happened few thousand years ago
>>517827527>just Sanskrit since we still learn and speak it formally kekUtter bullshit. I have Indian friends, and none of them - not even single one of them - and they have several Masters - speak Sanskrit. Or even said that it was taught in any shape and form. They all considered it beyond their ability. If you say to them you're learning Sanskrit, they will treat it you as a giga brain Chad. Now I know for sure that you're fucking bullshitting here, Swiss Jeet.And even such a little small pointless lie implies that everything else about you might be fake, too.
Good thread
>>517844386>your fragile identitythese levels of projection shouldn't be legal
>>517844306>unfortunately for you on top of being fluent in two ancient indo-european languages I know what I'm talking about:I...I knowing a language spoken today doesn't make you an expert of a mythical one from 4000 years agoill just keep posting this until your respondless than half of all words in the "indo-german" language can be traced to the mythical languageno certain remains of an indo-german civilisation have been found with archaeologists variously making them stone age farmers or pastoral herders who for an unknown reason and through a mysterious power killed every person in europethen comes the most basic fact that european languages are too different from each other to have only split around 2000BC as seen through latin still being recognisable to modern "romance" people and icelandic being virtually identical to old norse
>>517844022Gravity is just a theory bro, what's stopping you from jumping from a bridge
>>517844399Lol yeah ok. Love it when insecure Europeans are adamant on knowing more about a native culture than the people in said culture. It's truly a test of intelligence
>>517844477you can keep reposting that completely irrelevant babble and all it shows is that you don't even understand the basics of what you are talking about, namely, the idea that language families are determined by lexical similarity alone: english's lexicon is 50%+ Latinate, doesn't mean english is a Romance language
>>517844275Originate is a nebulous word. Do you propose that sanskrit arose utterly and organically from what is now india, with no exogenous infuence?
>>517827438hi pratyuksh
>>517844558ill just keep posting this until your respondless than half of all words in the "indo-german" language can be traced to the mythical languageno certain remains of an indo-german civilisation have been found with archaeologists variously making them stone age farmers or pastoral herders who for an unknown reason and through a mysterious power killed every person in europethen comes the most basic fact that european languages are too different from each other to have only split around 2000BC as seen through latin still being recognisable to modern "romance" people and icelandic being virtually identical to old norse
>>517825698>Sanskrit is German on steroids.SAAAAAAAAAAR?WE ARE ARYAN FIRST SAAAAAAAAAAR????
>>517844526natives more often than not as in your case are extremely biased, borderline comically so especially when from utterly humiliated countries like yourse whose identity is extremely fragileI'm Italian, we're literally one of the last western countries to be indo-europeanized, if I were as pathetic and sad as you I'd be claiming Italic languages emerged in Italy
>>517844563Yes. If you have knowledge of the ancient texts and immerse yourself in the culture you will come to the same conclusion if you are not biased or have an agenda.
>>517844594I just did, by showing you don't even remotely know what you are talking about, you are arguing against strawmen that exist only in your headyou are free to explain to me how is it possible that Homeric Greek's verb system and Sanskrit's are so ridiculously similar in their structure on the other hand
>>517844558>y, the idea that language families are determined by lexical similarity alone: english's lexicon is 50%+ Latinate, doesn't mean english is a Romance languagethat isnt what i saidare you sure you can actually understand english?
>>517844703Well thats stupid LOL. I thought you had disdain for the italian because of a perceived lack of nuance. Nah youre just some nationalist.
>>517844794it's literally your first argument, talking about a percentage of words in "indo-german", you clearly don't understand that for a language to be part of a certain linguistic family the amount of lexical cognates isn't relevant, so you don't even understand he absolute 101 of the theory you are criticizing, proving, once again, that you are a dysgenic clown colored like animal excrement
>>517844794Don't think it's worth discussing this with him. This is an identity thing for him, and as you can see from his responses, this goes beyond an intellectual pursuit for him. It's shaking the very foundations of everything he has spent so long building.
>>517844771>you are free to explain to me how is it possible that Homeric Greek's verb system and Sanskrit's are so ridiculously similar in their structure on the other handbecause they descend from the paleolithic eurasian language which spread after the eruption of toba
>>517844812I'm not Indian, but that's okay. I didn't expect any less.
>>517844895>Don't think it's worth discussing this with him. This is an identity thing for him>this goes beyond an intellectual pursuit for him. It's shaking the very foundations of everything he has spent so long building.insane levels of projection, incredible
>>517844868i listed several points which work together to create an ideaim not sure you understand what a theory is
>>517844949>because they descend from the paleolithic eurasian language which spread after the eruption of tobaHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAso that is an explanation according to you, but saying they descend from a common language spoken in 5000BC Ukraine on the other hand is totally insane???absolute state of feces colored chimpanzees
>>517844951Even if you revealed your flag, your use of a false one rightly rouses suspicion. Sanskrit is largely derived from the same substrate as german.
>>517845009your very points immediately prove you don't know what you are talking about, like someone talking about the shape of the number 2 when discussing Riemann's hypothesis, you have 0 clue whatsoever about linguistics
>>517844895presumably, his entire identity is a rejection of india of all things. im not sure if italy has many indians anyway so i cant understand why.>>517844952>insane levels of projection,most of your posts against me have simply been calling me brown so no it isnt as youve left evidence are you actually over 16?
>>517845012>but saying they descend from a common language spoken in 5000BC Ukraine on the other hand is totally insane???"then comes the most basic fact that european languages are too different from each other to have only split around 2000BC as seen through latin still being recognisable to modern "romance" people and icelandic being virtually identical to old norse"try reading and youll learn something :)
>>517845092>presumably, his entire identity is a rejection of india of all thingsBINGOIT'S A JEETHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>517845133>then comes the most basic fact that european languages are too different from each other to have only split around 2000BC*beeeeeeep* again, headcanon that exists only in your head, late proto-IE is dated to 3000BC, not 2000BC, once aain the turd colored hominid can't even get the basics right while attempting to take down scientific theories created by people with at least 30IQ points above him
>>517826561I thought Welsh was supposed to be Ancient Hebrew
>>517845054Well I'm afraid you then fall into the same category as our Italian friend here. Good luck with your fragile identity!>>517845092Exactly. This is why I said that when coming from a white supremacist angle, they will never be able to accept that Sanskrit originated in India because in their minds, no other culture has ever done anything. Their knowledge is basically from the ideas used in the 1800s to aid in the colonization campaigns which were basically propaganda and not based on any fact. People like this are a lost cause and you can't help but feel pity for them.
>>517845228ill post again since your adhd failed to read the second half of the post"then comes the most basic fact that european languages are too different from each other to have only split around 2000BC as seen through latin still being recognisable to modern "romance" people and icelandic being virtually identical to old norse"if its in green will you pay attention?>s seen through latin still being recognisable to modern "romance" people and icelandic being virtually identical to old norse
>>517845278You have a potbelly and 11 inch arms. Good luck with your too large condoms!
these lurid turd colored excrements, the laughing stock of the entire planet, genuinely think their opinion on the subject will change global academic consensus, it's hilarious
>>517845362>he mad
>>517845341I just destroyed it, see >>517845228you once again demonstrate you don't know the theory you are attempting to refute, ipso facto self-refuting, concession and total humiliation accepted
>>517845362so your pride is descending from a group of brown turko-ukrainians instead of locals in italy i dont understand why youre proud of that
>>517845473no you failed to read the second half of my post for the second timeill try again>latin still being recognisable to modern "romance" people and icelandic being virtually identical to old norse
>>517844414No, it's shit-slinging central, but you're easy to please.
>>517845479>brown turko-ukrainiansHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH >>517845142SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>517831421We're each losing our cultural hivemind as we accept more outsiders.>>517835205Our language is just being dumbed down for the lower class and for thirdies.And removing any regional distinctions. Cockney is already dead, soon Yorkshire will be if it isn't already.
>>517828425I'm inclined to believe that it was made extra complicated so only Brahmins would fully understand it. Makes it harder to impersonate a Brahmin that way.
>>517845479Because he isnt proud pajeet. Non shitskins can hold objective facts in their mind under consideration without attaching chimpanzee id bullshit to them. He merely finds it interesting as opposed to BALALALALALA I AM THEE BEST I AM FIRST AND MOST AND DOING EVERYTHING
>>517845520>latin still being recognisable to modern "romance" peoplecompletely irrelevant, proto-Romance formed while Latin continuously influenced them throughout the last 2000 years> and icelandic being virtually identical to old norsecompletely irrelevant as norse and icelanding share their common ancestor extremely recently and iceland was also almost completely isolated, aiding the preservation of the language's complexity>this feces colored chimpanzee seriously comparing norse and icelandic(split less than 1000 years ago) with 5000 years of differentiation all over Eurasia
>>517845608Yet you think that it's impossible for a non-European country to have come up with something first? Fucking lol. Imagine living like this.
>>517845711more strawmen, every European accepts for example that the proto-alphabet we use came from Phoenicians, or that agriculture came from the near eastlet me guess, you also independently developed agriculture, civilization and even language and alphabet but still can't figure out basic potty training unlike my pet dog?
>>517845711We are talking about a specific phenomenon pajeet. The specific phenomenon of IE languages that includes german and sanskrit originates from the south central steppe. Local contributions vary but the undergirding phenomenon is this.
get fucked coombrains, take your shitslinging outside, learn how to have a civilized intellectual discussion, yet another thread derailed by retards
>>517845608who asked you?>>517845694>>517845694>completely irrelevant, proto-Romance formed while Latin continuously influenced them throughout the last 2000 yearsuh no. most people could not speak latin and had no direct access to it to the extent it would impact their speech>completely irrelevant as norse and icelanding share their common ancestor extremely recently and iceland was also almost completely isolated, aiding the preservation of the language's complexitystill over a thousand years with little changeaccording to the indo-germanicists icelandic should actually changed massivelyanother good example is greek of which common greek has had virtually no change for 2000 years. an impossibility to the indo-germanicists but a reality to the paleolithicists
>>517845860you can't have civilized intellectual discourse with hominids colored like excrement who have yet to figure out how to shit in toilets
>>517845791Oh I get it. So a culture/people can't lay claim to something unless Europeans say it's ok. Makes perfect sense. So ultimately the very historical traditions of a culture don't matter unless the said culture gets a pass from a European nation. Fucking lol
>>517845869Who asked you to be in europe? Turd
>>517845869>uh no. most people could not speak latin and had no direct access to it to the extent it would impact their speechcompletely irrelevant, as romance languages were influenced by the literate elites who continuously spoke Latin for thousands of years, Romance language's isolation lasted very little comparably>according to the indo-germanicists icelandic should actually changed massivelystrawman, demonstrate it based on academic claims or lose the argument ipso facto>another good example is greek of which common greek has had virtually no change for 2000 yearssee above, same exact reason, literate Greeks who learned the ancient variety constantly maintained the spoken popular language closer to its originale Koine standardall of this is completely irrelevant to the discussion as the language family being discussed predates literacy and civilization
>>517845965>Oh I get it. So a culture/people can't lay claim to something unless Europeans say it's okYou write like a woman hahaha. Pajeet try to do 3 pullups and when you recover eat some beef.
>>517845965it's simpler: nobody has to give a single fuck about headcanon built for ideological reasons by petty locals who think they are the center of the worldyou either enter a discussion based on objective reasons and defend the idea that X originated in your country or you accept being the local clownthe fact that you brought up indigenous primacy as a scientific argument ipso facto disqualifies yourself from the discussion
>>517846083Lol good luck in life. Maybe try and build your identity on something less fragile.
>>517846129Your ignorance is too much for me. Good luck with the fragile identity!
>>517846177your concession and complete intellectual humiliation is accepted, good luck delivering food to your masters' homes!
>>517846133Fragile? Like the infrastructure built by the English you use to get to your turd polishing job?
>>517843240There was so much fuckery with languages in the mid-1800s that it is hard to discern the truthAnd the theory of "old English" is based on only a handful of surviving texts. There was no standard English back then anyway. BUT the more languages that you learn the more you're struck by odd similarities. I think it's more a case of neighbours influencing neighbours who then influence other neighbours in turn. And when one people conquer another, they impose their own language on them. Native north Americans mostly speak English, as an example.Yorkshire's a good example, as it had the highest number of Norse words of any English dialect, in line with the amount of invasions.Civilization is probably a lot older than claimed. Cataclysms probably did create some bottlenecks since it floods wipe out coastal settlements and most people settle around water - survivors left to rebuild would be more inland and then spread out. There probably is a mythical root language formed by those who did survive the Younger Dryas or what have you.
>>517825698Yes but how does is relate to Hebrew?
>>517846032>as romance languages were influenced by the literate elitesNo they werenteven in the 19th century at the height of brutal language re-education they still failed to homogenise languages in europe with even small languages like gaelic and breton surviving this>strawman, demonstrate it based on academic claims or lose the argument ipso factoall european language groups emerged from indo-german in a period of a thousand years of it arriving>see above, same exact reason, literate Greeks who learned the ancient variety constantly maintained the spoken popular language closer to its originale Koine standardas my first point your imagined power of the people who could read never existed until the industrial revolutionjust look at jews who knew no hebrew outside of the upper classes until the foundation of israel
>>517826561>There's an old ancient language in UK called welsh which also shares similarities with SanskritWelsh is Hebrew, not Sanskrit.
>>517846374>No they werentyes they weren't, just take Italian, a language created by poets and literate people who filled it with all sorts of latin words that were lost in the vulgar tongue, compare e.g mangiabile vs edibile>all european language groups emerged from indo-german in a period of a thousand years of it arrivingthere isn't an fixed date, they expanded and the languages slowly diverged due to isolation and time and interaction with the different non-IE locals they encountered and absorbed, nothing whotsoever to do with the situation of icelandic and norse
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>>517826561STrange similarities.
there is a simple test to determine whether the person you are speaking with knows what he's talking about regarding the Ind-European question, and it's whether they immediately begin talking about lexical similarity or not: they think these theories are based on some words being similar, it's the elementary, basic 101 sign that you should immediately drop any pretense of speaking with a serious "person"all you need to do is study Greek, Latin, then Sanskrit, then look not at the nouns, look at the verb system alone and it will be obvious these are related languages not by mutual influence, which typically changes the lexicon, but by common origins
>>517846558yes, and italian spread in the 19th century if you mean the standard language and not dialects where the dialects still survive todayare you sure you arent brown since you dont know your own history?
>>517846663talking into the void
>>517846683the dialects in turn are constantly influenced by the literate people, you keep bringing out completely irrelevant side points because you are getting utterly destroyed
>>517828668>They are no Aryan. Aryan created Sanskrit just gave them language and fucked some brownoid women women in Afghanistan and Pakistan and left.
>>517846722talking to anyone who may encounter another feces colored indianzee babbling about a topic he is 30IQ points too dumb to deal with
>>517826887Anatolian Indo-European languages are very interesting to me too. Where do you stand on where the origin of the languages is? Most historians/linguists go with the kurgan hypothesis. I myself think that either the Anatolian or Armenian hypothesis is the right one.One very interesting potential grouping of languages is Armeno-Greek. Maybe Albanian too. It's not widely accepted yet, but I have a feeling that Armenia was very important a long time ago.
>>517828857>What makes you think the people who spoke Sanskrit in the Vedic period are the same people inhabiting India today?The sociopathic child sacrificing Canaanite genes are what make up Jews and Jeets today.
>>517825698yeah it's a long way from your "den-det" "bilen bilar bilarna" bullshit
>>517846899I always thought that their kabbalah tree or sephirot, was related to the chakras or what have you.
>>517827400Lithuanians are jeets, no further proof needed.>>517825698>We wuz German, saar, we need stay in Europ, saar
>>517825698never heard of Polish, Somali Swede?
You guys wanna know something fascinating?The Sumerians report trade relations with a place called Meluhha. When you look for a place with a similar name today you can't find one; but what you can find is that all the Indo-Aryan languages have a similar term. Except now it means barbarian.Really makes you think...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meluhhahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mlecchahttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B2%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%9A%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9B#Sanskrit
>>517847861Based geeks
>>517847481Just Dilmun itself is interesting.
>>517843048>mishita>me shit-a
>>517843366>the closest we have in english is atmosphere and guess where that comes from. atmos, from atmanatmos is Greek and in modern Greek means steam
>>517826561Wales is based.>love me welsh language>love me dragon flags>love me castles>love me sheep>love me cocklessimple as. I'd love to to back.
>>517845711yes.
>>517847982hmmm interesting way of breaking it down the phonemes
>>517848544neat>>517848817damn
>>517849668In America it comes up often, because kids who have trouble pronouncing th-sounds or our funky r-colored vowels are tarred as having a lisp.When, in fact, there is no lisp; they're just late to learning the sound. Not even late, just at the latter part of when they should.And you can see on the kids' faces that their parents are giving them anxiety when there's actually nothing fucking wrong with them.
