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Why can’t these be manufactured anymore?
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Stupid niggers. Cant even make airplanes anymore.
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>>518157056
One day, when there are no longer any Europeans, they will look back at all of the great marvels.
Who am I kidding, all records will be lost as well.
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>>518157056
Space Force is instead used to monitor dissidents for Havana Syndrome deployment.
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>>518157056

Actually, yeah we did.

All the welders and personnel it took to create that took their skills to the grave.

SpaceX though is doing it on their own.
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>>518157056
>offshore all manufacturing capabilities
>lost tech
The words are wrong. As usual.
Never put a retard in front of the camera, no matter his degree.
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>>518157056
>Why can’t these be manufactured anymore?
That's not the tech they "lost"
The truth is that the technology level required to produce movies that won't be scrutinized is lost. They need grain. They need blur. They need to be able to obscure the accidents they make in filming, or people will see that they weren't on the moon to begin with.
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>>518157056
because the third reich(where all the genius came from) is gone
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>>518157056
We didn't lose the technological knowledge, we lost the manufacturing pipeline. That's all. There's no point in doing it the same way.
You should watch more rocket launches.
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>>518157692
This is unironically true. The German rocketry program was miles ahead of the rest of the world. The Germans really produced some brilliant minds before the jews neutered them forever. Now they're all muslim cock sockets and their cucks.
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>>518157692
>have genius at home
>refuse to fund him
>he copes with smokeless powder bazookas
>war ends
>still nothing for your liquid rockets
>US imports the guys from Germany that bought your patents(thanks, guys)
>Germans get all the credit
We have genius at home. We have stateside Germans(no, Goddard was not German). We have no excuses, only obvious efforts to suppress capability.
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>>518157056
All nerds went to computing jobs.
As strange as it may be, you actually need high Q plumbers and wielders to create shit like that, and now all of them are trying their luck in a office job.
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>>518157854
Literally. Bought. Goddard's. Patents. Stupid. Fuckwit.
>wait, government funding was missing?
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>>518157056
because it costs money that the left steals for illegals and shit. white men's salaries, and factories
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>>518157056
America is a white people extermination zone, how would manufacturing these help non-whites kill whites in America?
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>>518157933
We'd never be where we are without werner von braun, et al.
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>>518157056
One theory would be that we didn't "lose" the ability to theoretically go into space. We just used up the excess materials that were collected from crashed ships and used as ablative coating to protect the astronauts. Once it's used up, you can't recreate it because you don't understand it, but you also can't just discard it because someone will find it and blow the lid.
Remember how the "mylar" material they found at first they claimed was definitely anomalous and highly resistant, but then retracted that and said "ah nah, it's just a weather balloon" even though no weather balloons existed back then made of that type of material?
We were borrowing scraps we found, and we still don't know how to reproduce it.
At least that's one theory.
The only other people in the world to lose such instrumental data deserving of preservation are video game devs, so I'm curious if there's any connection there in some shape or form.
Your guess is as good as mine at this point.
It could also just be simple human retardation.
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>>518158071
Von Braun is the most overrated faggot in aerospace history. He was a beaureucrat that was an expert at taking credit for other people's ideas. I hope he's burning in hell.
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>>518157056
all of that hardware was hand built by white men, with hand tools and manual machines.
they used hand drawn plans, drawn by nerds.
we gave away all of our manufacturing capabilities for a couple more sheckles, and we dont have those men or actually smart nerds anymore.
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>>518157056
you people are idiots. people in this thread are talking about fucking welders and offshoring manufacturing. it has nothing to do with that. the software used to run the systems no longer exists. it was written in languages no one knows any more, on architecture that is long obsolute, and stored on magnetic tapes which degraded.
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They're too big to fit inside of werner von braun's ass
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>>518158201
Nice try kike. Youre thinking of your heroes.
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>>518157056
>Why can’t these be manufactured anymore?
When you build modern machinery, you have to first build "tooling". Those are the machines that can make your machine. Tooling is like any other machine in that you have engineers and draftsman draw up plans first, but after the tooling is built then they go weeks or months tweaking it so that the tooling can reliably build the product. That stuff is hardly ever written down. Then, when you're done building the product, you don't keep a factory building sitting around with the tooling still in it, it is deconstructed and repurposed, or even scrapped.

Eventually, the people who built it all retire, go senile, or even die. They're no longer around to help you retrace the steps everyone took to build it. This phenomenon can happen surprisingly quickly, sometimes in under 5 years.
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>>518157056
the geniuses troon out
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>>518157933
lying kike

In response to Goddard's statements, von Braun said "at no time in Germany did I or any of my associates ever see a Goddard patent". This was independently confirmed.
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It's relatively simple for white men to put other white men on the moon, it is impossible for DEI to put DEI on the moon. It's not just the engineering, and human factors, it is the politics as well.
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>>518157056
the apollo program created a bunch of one off technology that was never meant for mass production and with the discoveries in digital technology much of it became obsolete. we didn't lose the technology, it became obsolete and if we were to try and land on the moon again things would be done differently. the reason we don't go back to the moon is because it's expensive and not currently worth it until we can actually start building shit there

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>>518157854
it's not true, you gay retard

>>518158071
goddard was launching liquid fuel gyroscopic controlled rockets decades before germany and the most advanced piece of technology which was the apollo guidance computer was built by americans
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>>518158610
Goddard was launchign fire crackers
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They lost the Autodesk Maya files from 1962 so they can't 3D print them anymore. Should've used Google drive.
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>>518157056
They’re like the Concorde, square cube law spanks us over multiple uses, we had two major flight disasters using these with detailed analysis of the astronauts final moments and level of awareness of their imminent demise
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we didn’t lose the tech. it’s just not cost effective anymore. the space race took like 8% of america’s GDP. we are instead going to pay private companies to do this for a fraction of the cost
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>>518157056
Because these aren't built through an assembly line process and have to be built to a very precise standard, building stuff like this required some of the best and brightest minds coming together to work on this goal. Those minds are either dying or dead, and Shaniqua and Rajamanivian simply aren't up to the task of adequately replacing these men.
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>>518158201
Von Braun was the entire brain behind landing on the mon
it was his fucking idea
it would have never happened otherwise
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>>518158698
>just 2 more weeks
see you next year
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>>518157056
Multi decades major endeavor does not work well with the 4 year democratic system we have. Also, humanity endeavor doesn't benefit the jews and the greedy elites.
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>>518158787
No it was John F Kennedy's idea
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>>518157056
Everyone involved retired and a lot of the designs are pre computer and a lot of obscure fiddling to get the bizarre baffling correct. Those nozzles are incredibly nuts honestly. Russians couldn't ever build them like that, not that anyone needed to as engines got less ridiculous and more efficient, like SSME.
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>>518157056
Scientists died, engineers died, records weren't kept. Overall loss of institutional knowledge.
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>>518158646
you can cope all you want. germany was an overrated nigger country that couldn't even into logistics
>BUT WE BUILT THESE WORTHLESS WONDERWAFFLES
you're losers that started a war you couldn't win. we totally took a shit all over your luftwaffe too. you were a big joke and highly overrated
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>>518158820
bullshit
Von Braun was touring the US with the idea years before Kennedy was even president
it was all von Braun
and the nasa rockets all come from the german V2
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>>518157056
Yeah nigga. No one knows how to use a slide rule anymore.
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>>518158201
keep spouting nonsense, jew
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>>518157056
>Did we really “lose the tech”?
No, technology has massively improved since then. One of the main reasons why it isn't feasible to build new Saturn Vs is because we could build better, cheaper, safer, more effective rockets today using modern technology like advanced computers, 3d printing, etc.
>Why can’t these be manufactured anymore?
They COULD be manufactured today, it just wouldn't be worth the effort. In the 1960s, almost 5% of the entire US federal budget was going to NASA, and most of it was being used on the Apollo program. Making new Saturn Vs is theoretically possible, but it wouldn't be practically or economically reasonable at all.
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>>518157056
>Why can’t these be manufactured anymore?

1: NASA lost the plans.
2: Werner Vaun Braun and the geniuses that designed them died and were replaced by diversity hires.
3: The manufacturing base that made them no longer exists.
4: We don't want to spend the money again and would rather let Elon Musk do the heavy lifting for us.
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>>518157056
The thing makes no sense, it's massively oversized. Thos five massive engines are used once only to propel the whole thing off the ground and then jettisoned at the first stage separation, most of the weight was the bloody engines and massive amount of fuel needed to feed them.
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Aliens have been spraying a chemical on us since the 1960s when we started advancing really fucking fast and scared the greys, we're simply not intelligent enough anymore.
If they didn't we would have bases on the Moon, Mars and Jupiter's moons by now and might have eventually cracked FTL from those alien craft we found buried in the earths crust.
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>>518157601
>offshore
In the case of American rockets, what killed them was cheap ass Soviet milsurp and changing demands for launches. The Russian shit is also reasonably good for the roles that were needed as well.
There were whole companies who's rocket business was basically unmothballing Russian engines and slapping some certification on them. Aerojet started it by buying up NK-33s from the defunct and failed N1 rockets and Pratt & Whitney would buy shit like RD-180s.
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>>518157056
Seeing that image you can understand why people used to admire America
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>>518157745
>we lost the manufacturing pipeline.
Yes, mainly because NASA had a bad habit of sourcing everything from a million different contractors, ranging from massive defense contractors to small mom and pop machine shops. The primary reason for this was political, politicians insisted on being able to say that they created X new high tech jobs in their district making parts for the space program.
But in the decades since, many of those contractors either no longer exist or are doing completely different types of things than what they were doing in the '60s.
One of the reasons the Artemis program has been plagued with delays and cost overruns is directly due to this. They were trying to re-use components left over from the Shuttle program (which were also made from parts made by millions of different contractors) and then tasked numerous different companies with working on various different aspects of Artemis to put it together. Then when they finally started trying to put together all of these components made by different people, they ran into numerous issues trying to make them all fit together and work together properly.
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>>518159185
It was just kerosene and liquid oxygen. Its to go to Saturn. Super cheap fuel. Hydrogen was used by the final stage. Thats the largest propulsion system for a space launch in history and poetically it was the final gigantism focused uber-project tied to Germany like the railguns and Ratte tank etc.
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>>518157056
>“lose the tech”?
no we have better
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>>518159185
Well, you gotta get to the moon somehow. Back then, bigger was the way to go. Big ass nozzles meant less obnoxious plumbing, but have their own instability issues. The crazy fucks managed to actually fix the stabilization, which again, is something Russia could never do. If you look at early spacex stuff, you'll see like 2 or 3 Merlins flame out because all the plumbing is a nightmare.
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>>518157056.

No. You are paranoid. Next year is Hyperborean America's ascent, and colonization of the moon, and you're blackpilling?
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The Nazis were just that damn good, even Star Trek TOS admitted it
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>>518159645
Star trek?
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>>518159645

https://youtu.be/EvusFZh3ubw?si=1asiqoG6GEx-0CdK
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>>518158071
We'd never be where we are if the US didn't pull its head out of its ass, notice the german liquid rocketry program, and jump in on a train started in their own fucking country.
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>>518159508
That happened with the 1986 Challenger disaster, having parts from distant states moved by train to assembly rather than built in one solid piece. The o-rings that failed were built in Utah thanks to lobbying by Reagan's friend Orin Hatch.
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>>518157056
I'm sure they could build it again but a lot of the steps and processes aren't done anymore and so you'd need to stand to entire industries that don't exist anymore.
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>>518159645
>>518159948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a1QP9rsm6g
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>>518157056
No

The whole...my uncle works for Nasa and says we don't know nothing meme is tiresome
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>>518159459
Picture is appropriate. People who question that we ever landed on the moon are morons.
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>>518159594
IM GLAD THEY FLAMED OUT
BECAUSE IT PISSED YOU OFF

__BITCH__
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>>518158610
>the apollo program created a bunch of one off technology that was never meant for mass production and with the discoveries in digital technology much of it became obsolete.


Besides "losing" all of the blueprints,film, and telemetry data from the original Apollo missions we still after 60 years have no idea how to rebuild that technology or even built new tech that can deal with the massive amount of radiation beyond the Van Allen Belt

>the reason we don't go back to the moon is because it's expensive and not currently worth it until we can actually start building shit there

Except for the potential rare materials that could be lying under the Moon's surface and open up new industries for space mining. The reason we haven't gone back is because we never went there in the first place.


>>518157745
We "lost" all of the blueprints
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>>518157854
The Russians were way more ahead than the Germans let alone the Americans. The movie Frau im Mond had German rocket scientists that later were involved in Project Paperclip advise for the film. The film actually depicts everything the Apollo missions did.

>>518158080
Except we have zero blueprints on how they achieved their protection. They didn't just lose the blueprints but film as well. Atleast games can be decompiled.

>>518158201
The funniest story is when him and his team originally proposed their own plan for getting to the moon albeit incredibly fucking hard and he just turns against his team and accepts the Apollo command module concept. He also took his team in 1967 to Antarctica...where Moon rocks can be found. Make of that what you will.

>>518158548
Except they claim they had all the blueprints but "lost" them. Not the same as writing something down on a notepad.
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>>518158579
>read about it in the early 00s
>mention of some patent purchases
>try to read about it now
>NUH UH! V2 was INDEPENDENT.
First of all, the version in question would be V1. Second of all, I fucking hate the current internet.
Can't verify shit, can't even prove myself wrong. It's just walls of hearsay.
And no, I'm clearly not helping.
This isn't even addressing von Braun.
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>>518158698
We actually did and NASA has publicly said this. I'm sorry you had your best memories at space camp.
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>>518160873
>The Russians were way more ahead than the Germans let alone the Americans.
Man, the Russians should have beat us to the moon, then.
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>>518157056
compare the apollo budget to the budget nasa has today
thats why you aren't going back to the moon any time soon
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>>518160934
>nasa publicly says it
>the guy on NASA's payroll couldn't POSSIBLY be a literal retard being fed lines, he has a DEGREE
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>>518159136
You need giant rockets to actually leave the Earth. Massive amounts of fuel to burn so you can possibly leave Earths orbit. The problem with Apollo tech is none of it looks advanced in any way. It looks like cheap shit yet somehow NASA can't rebuild it. They sent a tin foil duct tape flying machine to the Moon.
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>>518161012
We should change it to the NFDP.
Maybe then people will stop whining about paying for 4th of July celebrations.
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>>518159185
Gravity is incredibly strong and it's very difficult to leave earth.
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>>518161125
It was a frame wrapped in appropriately light foil shielding. Calling it anything else is disingenuous, regardless of intent.
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>>518159221
"Aliens" were started right after the Moon landings in order to reaffirm that America dominated space. None of the "Aliens" seem to be attacking America.
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>>518159594
>something Russia could never do


Except the Russians brought Moon rocks back from the moon.
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>>518157437
Did they give them an IQ test? How did they test Rudolf Hess, did he take the same test in the English prison he was in?
I always wonder where those IQ numbers come from. Did every US president sit down for the Presidential IQ Test?
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>>518160279
The rovers were remotely controlled (each wheel controlled by a person in Houston) including the film camera. This signal had a delay maybe a few seconds. So somehow they had to get the right angle and move the camera just right to capture it in frame. On a first try mind you.

Pic related also debunks that footage
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>>518161178
Especially because you have to lift the fuel you will burn later on as you continue climbing the gravity well.
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>>518158787
There were literally hundreds of people who dreamed of landing on the moon decades before Von Rip Off proposed doing it, kraut. Your overrated camp warden was not special. He just knew how to suck Hitler's tiny cock in order to get ahead of other scientists.
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>>518157056
No oil in space.
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>>518157056
because we have other countries to manufacture that, we just slap MADE IN USA and sell it for 5x the price.
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>>518158977
The NASA rockets worked specifically because they knew what pitfalls to avoid in spite of the V2's extensive track record of failure, kraut.
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>>518157056
Going to the moon is incredibly expensive and dangerous. If anything goes wrong you cannot retrieve the astronauts. Literally even the air they have is limited only to what they have on board. If it runs out, they die. Think about things like that.

Also you need massive rockets to be able to carry all that plus the fuel and equipment to leave the moon. It's a massive undertaking and we 1re 36 trillion in debt. It does not make any sense.
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>>518157056
They can be, it's just we'd have to remake all the jigs and winnow a workforce to figure out the ones that can be trusted with the fiddliest gayest parts of assembly. And if we're going to have to rebuild tooling and the workforce almost entirely, we may as well make new hardware since it's going to be a ground up endeavor anyway. It'd kind of be a waste of time to put all the effort into rebuilding the capacity to mass produce F1s when we are making rs25s and merlins and raptors right now.
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Somehow, someway, I know Jews are behind this somehow.
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>>518161947
off yourself kike
the history is well known
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>>518157056
Because we’re building better ones
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>>518161005
They did lol. The Luna missions landed a robot that was traversing the Moon before and after Apollo 11 and covered way more ground than America did. Not to mention the Russians beating us on everything before that.

>>518161058
Nasa confirmed this.

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/a11/Apollo_11_TV_Tapes_Report.pdf


>>518161199
The walls were described as being thick as two sheets of aluminum foil according to Apollo 13 astronauts. And no it won't protect you from the massive radiation beyond the Van Allen Belt.
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>>518157056
The US is advancing in outer space way faster than any time in past decades. And we're not just setting foot on the moon. We're building actual businesses that make money in space.
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>>518162271
>massive radiation beyond the Van Allen Belt
Yeah, let's just pretend the primary concern wasn't the thing you somehow knew to name.
Hence...the lander being lightly shielded. Because it's a fucking lander.
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>>518162489
I'm not talking about the Van Allen Belt. That protects us from more harmful radiation from space. The Moon is outside of the Van Allen Belt and so the radiation is even more dangerous if you were simply just navigating the VAN. Aluminum foil isn't protecting you from this.
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>>518162398
They said this twenty years ago.
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>>518157056
We could make them, it's just an outdated and expensive design. The F-1B was proposed for SLS but NASA chose to keep the RS-25.

Everyone is moving away from kerolox engines because the soot they produce is bad for engine re-use.
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>>518162729
That's a legitimate question. The Van Allen belt is mostly localized but the sun gives off massive amounts of radiation all across the spectrum and it's the Magnetic field that protects us.
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>>518157745
This, OP is a dumb jeet
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>>518162729
>he thinks the foil lander was the primary transit vehicle
You have to actually think about this shit if you want to disparage it.
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>>518162831
RS-25 and SRBs*
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What are we going to do in space as a spic country? Imagine mexico or guatemala going to space in 1969 lol. That is us is 2025
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>>518162885
>wasting your time on a guy who thinks the region of hazardous radiation created by the protective fields, are the protective fields themselves
Cmon anon. He like most people isn't even aware of the distinction between command, service and lunar modules. There's no conversation to be had with people like that.
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have you seen one of these fat fucks take off? they weren't efficient. also, there's spacex now and those asshats claim their shit is the latest hot shit. lastly, we hear of flying saucers and tic-tac UFOs which seem like more effective ways to fly. the bottleneck appears to be fuel and weight of the fuel. light fuel, efficient thrust = space travel is easy.
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I have thought about this a lot....I think we did "lose the tech." The baby boomers have spent 50 years liquidating American industry, instead of mastering it and improving upon it like prior generations. Consequentially, the younger generations have no industrial jobs waiting for them upon graduation.

As a result, the chain of knowledge that protects out country's technological advantage has been broken. One generation failed to pass it on to the next.

Foreign industry and foreign people have benefited from all the outsourcing, and American youth have pad the price.

Don't worry, though. China will pick up the slack. With all the knowledge sold to and money sent to China, the Baby Boomers have made sure that someone else will go back to the moon, and that we will never do so again.

I recall a story this old boomer told me while I was working as a cook in a hospital. He was the maintenance manager. He worked for a large US company since the 70's in the midwest that machines tools and dies for the automotive manufacturing.

Int he late 90's, the company was sold to investors in Vietnam. They bough all the machining equipment, the tools, dies, even the electrical cords - EVERYTHING got shipped to Vietnam.

Then he spent 2 years there training the Vietnamese how to use the equipment and make new dies. Now, that company can manufacture dies and the actual machine tools to make the dies, everything we used to be able to do, but now cannot.

This old boomer didn't car that he was helping sell his job to a foreigner, because he got a big payday for training the gooks for two years and a fat severance - enough to buy several toys and a nice house where I live. Now, he is almost retired having worked the maintenance circuit for the last 2 decades building his 401K, real estate equity, and pension. (don't forget Social security)
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>>518162885
>>518163089
You do realize they were on the Moon for a few days being blasted by massive amounts of radiation. So please enlighten me. How did tin foil protect them from the massive amounts of radiation on the Moon?
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>>518163294
yep, boomers and their parents fucked us, then blamed everything on "lazy millenials". i'm gonna be a lazy fucker until i die just to spite them.
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>>518159594
We used different type of fuel, therefore different approach to design. That simple anon.
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>>518163351
>being blasted by massive amounts of radiation.
You don't even know what radiation means, when the hazards exist or what materials mitigate the different forms of radiation. The question you're asking is like someone demanding to know how you drove through Oklahoma and survived in a stock f150 when f150s routinely get thrown thousands of feet by tornadoes.
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>>518157056
>Did we really “lose the tech”?
"we" never had it in the first place. You can't lose what you made up. The moonlanding was a hoax. Jews made it up.
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>>518158201
So like Ford? Or Edison? Or Jobs? Or Da vinchi? Or Aristotle?
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>>518157552
>"You know its real because it looks so fake."
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>>518163607
Anon it's a simple question. How did two layers of tin foil protect the Lunar module for a few days while on the the Lunar surface? The Russians estimated you needed 4 inch lead walls since you know radiation and all.
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>>518158841
How was yon kipor this year, did you call your mom?
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>>518163931
Tin foil stops beta and alpha radiation, and some gamma particles. They were not there for a very long time so whatever radiation got through they could just endure it. Most of it came from crossing the van allen belt, and they did suffer from health issues when they were older.
Unless you are getting blasted by a solar flare there are not "massive" amounts of radiation on the moon
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>>518163931
>How did two layers of tin foil protect the Lunar module for a few days while on the the Lunar surface?
They didn't perform the mission during a solar storm. They didn't need any shielding that isn't provided by a sheet of mylar or the outer layer of human skin. This is why I brought up the analogy with tornadoes. If they were doing the mission during the impact period of a huge solar flare, yeah that would present a problem, but solar activity was in a lull so the background levels of radiation for a day on surface and another few in transit to and from the moon end up being in the ballpark of a CT scan.
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>>518163893
I can sort of understand why some schizos would mistakenly think we weren't capable of landing humans on the moon in the 60s, but do you genuinely believe we don't have the technology today to launch a car into orbit with a camera on it?
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>>518161823
>Launch is timed
>Literally impossible to time a camera pan to coincide with the timed launch, where you will know the rate of ascent in advance
Retards that don't think we went to the moon are as obnoxiously stupid as flerfers, and often are flerfers.
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>>518164627
Nobody can pass through the VARB without radiation death. Nobody can pass through solar radiation without death.

Nobody ever went to the moon because nobody ever will. Humans were not given dominion over the stars.
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>>518164204
It's the radiation beyond the Van Allen Belt you have to worry about.

>Tin foil stops beta and alpha radiation, and some gamma particles.

Cool so where are the blueprints for this magical tin foil?

>>518164320
>They didn't perform the mission during a solar storm.

Radiation and cosmic rays hit you even when not during a solar storm. The radiation in and beyond the belts are deadly but NASA is being vague.

>They didn't need any shielding that isn't provided by a sheet of mylar or the outer layer of human skin.

Okay so go inside a nuclear reactor covered in mylar a few days. You should be fine then

>but solar activity was in a lull so the background levels of radiation for a day on surface and another few in transit to and from the moon end up being in the ballpark of a CT scan.

We actually don't know how bad the radiation levels are beyond the VAB. But it's bad enough that even NASA admits to it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20050710014515/https://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/24jun_electrostatics.htm
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>>518164703
What's missing in the footage anon?
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>>518162729
Lol. Can't even get the terminology and science right. The van Allen belts themselves are dangerous because radiation tends to get trapped in them. But most rocket launches are fast enough that they don't spend an appreciable amount of time in them.

After that, there's the random radiation in space, which unless there's a solar storm, is mostly just an uptick in cancer rates. It won't kill you during a trip to the moon and back.
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>>518164773
If you'll go back and read my comment with your eyes open this time you'll see I asked about the car.
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>>518164627
"People" like that unironically think there's an ocean above a glass dome a few thousand feet up, and on the other side of that ocean is where god lives. They're terminally kikebrained. There's nothing you can really say to them.
>>518164795
>Okay so go inside a nuclear reactor covered in mylar a few days. You should be fine then
See this is what I'm talking about. You don't even know what kinds of radiation there are and what they mean for different materials and biological organisms. It's time to take my own advice and let these jews flounder, it's not like anything of value is going to happen in this thread from here on out.
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>>518157056
we totally can manufacture them. there is no point though, musk's rocket is a better design by having a bunch of smaller ones, if one fails the engine doesnt become unstable.
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>>518164932
>better design
>constantly blows up
>Saturn V never did
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>>518163351
>average radiation exposure on the Moon is approximately 1,369 microsieverts (μSv) per day,
>1,000 - 2,000 mSv received over a long period will increase your chances of getting cancer. 2,000 - 3,000 mSv received in a short period will cause nausea
Muh massive radiation. Are you one of the people that freaked out about Fukushima? Believed the schizo shit about a wave of death flying across the Pacific?
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>>518158610
>Columbus’ voyage to the new world used a lot of one off technology
>no point in doing any more of it, that was the Spanish position


Do you have any idea how unbelievably retarded you globohomo shills sound?
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>>518162065
Presumably because the V2 people gave us lessons learned from their mistakes. Fuck I'm Jewish and I can at least give them credit for their rocketry.
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>>518164882
>Random radiation

According to who? It's weird how in the void of space you just think it's just nonexistent.

>>518164907
You literally used a CT machine as an example but standing near a reactor in Mylar isn't comparable?

>It's time to take my own advice and let these jews flounder, it's not like anything of value is going to happen in this thread from here on out.

Yea because you lost because your trying to convince people that mylar and tape protect against deadly cosmic radiation in the VAB and beyond.
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>>518160873
One of the few intelligent posts in the thread
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>>518162195
We are behind a lot of things. Behind every tree. We read your thoughts, but it's boring because we have better thoughts of our own.
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>>518164985

>>constantly blows up

Its not 2016 anymore.
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>>518165228
the people that build the american rockets were the same ones that build the german ones
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>>518165298
Starhip hadnt had one sucesfull launch yet
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>>518165264
>Steady radiation from sun, which varies based on state of the star. But usually not an issue if you're not out during a solar storm.
>Random cosmic rays from energetic events way way far away.
That's basically the sum of radiation in space. One is predictable(solar storms), the other is very random but mostly low enough to not be a problem, other than increased cancer rates.
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When NASA says we “lost the technology” to go to the Moon, they don’t mean it literally disappeared. They mean the Apollo program’s equipment, designs, and expertise are no longer maintained or practical to use. The Saturn V rockets, guidance computers, and other systems were all custom-built for Apollo in the 1960s. After the program ended, production lines were shut down, engineers retired or moved on, and many of the detailed blueprints and tools weren’t preserved or are now obsolete. Even if NASA still had the original drawings, rebuilding the exact Apollo systems today would be extremely costly and inefficient, like trying to recreate a 1960s supercomputer instead of using modern technology. Instead of trying to replicate Apollo, NASA is designing new rockets and spacecraft, like the SLS and Orion under the Artemis program, which are safer, more efficient, and compatible with current tech. So when they say the technology was “lost,” it really means the old systems are no longer available or practical to use, not that humans forgot how to go to the Moon.
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>>518165121
>The amount of radiation in Chernobyl varies significantly depending on the location, but current local ambient dose rates are typically in the range of a few microsieverts per hour, with some areas as high as 100 microsieverts per hour

Keep in mind they were going through the VAB and staying on the Moon and near it a few days. That's very toxic.
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>>518157056
we don't have giant steel foundries anymore
because faggot boomers wanted to retire 5 minutes earlier
THUS we do not have the "technology" or capacity
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>>518165405
>other than increased cancer rates.

They were on the Moon for a few days being exposed to intense radiation

>1,000–2,000 mSv (1-2 Sv): Can lead to nausea, fatigue, and may be fatal if received over a long period, increasing the risk of cancer.
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>>518164901
>>518164627
They're jews, anon. They just lied. They didn't need to launch the car. They can't ever go into outer space anyways, so everything that they're doing is for show.
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>>518165475
SLS isn't very practical to use either.
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utterly trapped on a doomed dust ball covered in savage retarded nigger apes drifting through the void towards inevitable doom hopelessly casting infinite sacrifices to totems of dust
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>>518164627
>what is van allen radiation belt
Retardo-kun, please
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Dunning-Krueger, the thread.
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>>518157056
Shitskins.
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>>518165508
Lol. I'm sorry, I can't tell if you're just trolling, a bot, or several standard deviations to the left. But I'd encourage you to notice that people explore around Chernobyl today, and animals live around the plant itself. Unless you go slap the elephant's foot with your dick, it's pretty much just low level cancer risk these days.

Radiation is not magic, and it's actually possible for humans to understand, and categorize. The background radiation in space, on average, is extremely survivable. Increases your chances of cataracts and cancer, but you're not going to drop dead from the radiation. If you've built your identity around the moon landing being a hoax, and you having super sekret knowledge of that, you've built your identity on lies, and ignorance.
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>>518165475
Some things have advanced a lot like computers, some not so much like building the engines, although there have surely been some improvements in design and materials there too. But you can replace the computers and leave the heavy parts that you've learned are good.
For example, Israel took our F35, which we wouldn't even sell them the best version of, kept the airframe, and redesigned the internals. New electronics, new fuel tanks, etc. Basically a gut rehab.
Created a plane that could fly from Israel to Iran and back, dropping ordnance there, totally undetected by Russian antiaircraft systems. Russia and Iran never expected it because they "knew" the F35 didn't have that kind of range. But now it did! Same airframe, much of the guts replaced.
Now the US wants the Israeli upgrades, after refusing to sell Israel our best domestic version.
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>>518164907
>They're terminally kikebrained
The official, mainstream narrative was made by kikes.
We don't know shit.
Lets that sink in.
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>>518165344

Yeah, that is experimental. I was talking about Falcon 9.
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>>518157056
reminder this is what that nigga put on his tombstone
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>>518165770
>1,000–2,000 mSv (1-2 Sv): Can lead to nausea, fatigue, and may be fatal if received over a long period, increasing the risk of cancer.

The issue is that none of the Astronauts on the missions ever gottten sick or died. They were on the Moon a few days plus traversing the VAB during that time. None of them ever got cancer or other negative health issues and all have lived long lives.

>If you've built your identity around the moon landing being a hoax, and you having super sekret knowledge of that, you've built your identity on lies, and ignorance.

The radiation isn't the only problem with the "Moon Landings". Micrometorites are another problem which somehow their suits didn't tear from impacts. The radiation is the biggest hurdle and it's why NASA hasn't "gone back" in 60 years. Let's have an adult discussion instead of resorting to insults.
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>>518164627
Anon these people think the Earth is flat and we're surrounded by a glass dome underwater
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>>518157536
>Space Force is instead used to monitor dissidents for Havana Syndrome deployment.
literally the opposite, space force chads will literally stop it when it's happening.
ask me how I know.
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>>518158411
checked
its embarrassing anyone takes that kike seriously
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>>518165770
Then theirs this shit.

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/analog-field-testing/why-space-radiation-matters/
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>>518159140
they're laughing at us bros.
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>>518160279
>le social shame
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>>518166332
What’s the issue here?
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>>518166515
It was shot on Earth
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>>518166605
What make you think that?
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>>518166332
I wonder what they inflated the tires to in a vacuum.
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Hey, devil's advocate here, but didn't a Chinese lunar rover find a lunar landing site, footprints, tire tracks and all?
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>>518166680
The footage was sped up which shows that this was shot somewhere with Earth's gravity. We don't have any of the raw film to confirm if this was shot in low gravity.
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>>518166708
The Lunar Roving Vehicle didn’t use traditional tires at all. Instead, it had wire-mesh wheels with titanium treads that acted like treads and provided traction. Because the wheels were made of woven steel strands around a lightweight aluminum hub, they were completely solid and didn’t need to be inflated. The mesh design allowed the wheels to deform slightly over rocks and uneven terrain, giving a bit of cushioning without air pressure. This design was chosen because pressurized tires would have been heavy, risky, and prone to punctures on the Moon’s sharp rocks. The wire-mesh wheels were lightweight, durable, and perfectly suited for the Moon’s surface.
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>>518166515
>we brought a dune buggy to the moon
>and golf clubs
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>>518166708
>I wonder what they inflated the tires to in a vacuum.
the kayfabe is they used steel mesh tires
but no tracks from the lander somehow.
>>518166824
>le kayfabe
faggot
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>>518157056
That's like asking why 1960's mainframes can't be manufactured anymore.
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>>518157056
the factory closed in the 70s.
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>>518160279
>People who question dogmas
are wronthinkers.
Fixed
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>>518166910
Why not? You seem to be making emotional arguments.
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>>518167393
>Why not? You seem to be making emotional arguments.
seems retarded.
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>>518157056
If by "tech" you mean "nazi scientists and engineers" then yes, it was a nonrenewable resource and we're all out now
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>>518166824
>>518166958
either way, brilliant design. Makes me wonder how every rotation wasn't a rooster tail of dust, though.
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>>518165598
Are you retarded? They weren't receiving thousands of millisieverts per day on the moon. They were receiving thousands of microsieverts, literally 1/1000 the dosage you're talking about.
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>>518168249
>either way, brilliant design. Makes me wonder how every rotation wasn't a rooster tail of dust, though.
it was
and that's actually not possible in a low-g environment.
see >>518166332
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>>518168799
lol
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>>518157056
Revoke all corporate charters and see how quickly it all comes back.
Throw off the chains and leave the retarded 'failing upward' culture where it belongs.
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>>518169575
You also think the Earth is flat. Your opinion of what is supposed to be impossible is worthless.
One could put every flat earther and moonlanding denier in the same room, and not even with your combined efforts could you retards successfully work through a highschool physics book.
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>>518169961
>You also think the Earth is flat. Your opinion of what is supposed to be impossible is worthless.
seethe more globie
you lost
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>>518157056
only russia and china can build these now
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>>518162271
>>518161005
>>518160873

>Did you forget Russia ended up with half of >Germany ?
https://warontherocks.com/2019/10/the-forgotten-rocketeers-german-scientists-in-the-soviet-union-1945-1959/


" Despite their absence in the records, German rocket scientists had a lasting imprint on Soviet rocketry. The work of captured German scientists enabled the Soviet Union to rapidly catch up to, and briefly surpass, the United States in rocket technology. Without German contributions, both the space race and the nuclear arms race would have looked vastly different. "
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>>518158080
Based effort post quite good food for thought thank you anon
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>>518157056
You don't have the equipment that made them, the people who worked the equipment, the companies that employed those people, and the web of contracts that made the whole thing come together. You'd have to start development basically from scratch, at which point you'd be better off trying to develop something more modern, with the techniques, workforce and contractors of today.
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>>518157056
>Why can’t these be manufactured anymore?
>>518157056
>Did we really “lose the tech”?
the fuck are you talking about OP
whatever you think of Stevelon zuckerbezgates, these are better
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Real Reason 4chan was HACK Cuz This Post!
OMG Real Hacker Inside Área51! Most importante Thread ever posted!
Was here over fews days ago Jeaniis freaks keep deleting Thread in PANIC mode cuz is so legit Haxorman infosec.
Wtf he did reply on any questions! He did return the next day but posts were deleted very quickly, where he basically made a statement that we are living in a catastrophic immenent Alien disclosure arrival any day. This was the only reason the deep state Illuminati let Trump win the election. We are all going to move into gigantic motherships in a relocation rapture type of event, so it is over, sir. Good luck, Safe.

"Yes the alien will arrive any day now 4sure, it is a normal process, but weird here the alien beings at Area 51 that we hold are interdimensional beings they see this place as a realm or game container simulation sandbox but the alien we getting soon arrival are normal Contact aliens processof evolution, a very complex deal to believe me.>
Bye must go return morning
eastern safe."

Original Thread from 1 hours ago POL Archive

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/492480581/
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test
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>>518157437
Yeah man, those supreme nazis could do such marvelous things, all the time. Like, getting people to 380 000 km altitude 6 times between 1969-1972 and never before, during or after they sent people beyond 2 000 km.
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>>518161497
retard
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>>518164627
And magically the car won't start spinning uncontrollably.
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>>518157056
moon landing was fake
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Moon is a hollow spaceship and Aliens told it's off the limits after the first time.
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>>518171448
>these are better
They haven't flown so we don't know that yet.
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>>518157513

Muslims Taught you white pigs how to do math , Arabs taught you how how to fucking bath. Indians taught you how to make food that doesn't taste like literal dogshit....Black tried to teach you how to pleasure a woman , you are clearly failing

Also assuming you are white and not a Spic infested with self hate.

Do you know how to build a rocket or are you another SS airhead who takes Ownership of other people achievements.
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>>518173360
So muslims only know math, arabs only know baths, Indians only know food, and black only know how to fuck.
You know guys you need a wider skill range in life.
An idea maybe you all should group up and do some knowledge transfer.
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>>518173619
>anti white comment
>from a meme flag
anon it's a kike.
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>>518173662
>he did not take the reply to the meme flag pill
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>>518163044
If you can dream it, you can achieve it
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>>518172729
Why would it "spin uncontrollably"? What external force would cause that?
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>>518157056
Because Nasa and space agencies in general are filled with diversity hires.
That's why jews keep spreading conspiracy theories about flat earth, fake astronauts, etc. It has two purposes, to discourage human progress so we stay confined on earth fighting on finite reasources, and to hide the fact that what was possible to achieve 60 years ago exclusively with white people and less advanced tech, it's impossible to achieve today with shitskins even after decades of technological advancement.
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>>518157437
Would give anything to know what Hitler and Goebbels' IQs were

Also I always kek at the fact that even Streicher was above average intelligence
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>>518157056
for starters
>no point
then
>manufacturing is the drawing, the machines, the accumulated knowledge of the machinists and the fettling of the design that happens during initial production
>machines are different
>machinists are dead
>nobody remembers the corner cases of the design
yeah, you got a bunch of papers, so what. You stop making them, they're lost. Blame Nixon.

A version that could be made with modern technology was designed, paid by the Air Force (but not yet built or tested). Nobody cares. It's a brute-force design and nobody's interested in it.
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>>518157056
all the tradespeople who were involved in the actual manufacturing process are no longer around so we lost their skillsets
those skills can again be developed but it's going to take a long time to do so
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>>518157552
NASAs sls rockets can do the exact same shit as the Saturn rockets...
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>>518168249
>what are dust-guards? they're even shown here
>>518166332
>what happened on Apollo 17 when one of the dust-guards broke
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>>518157056
here, don't spam this post again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACdYmuFyjWM
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>>518172863
raptor 3's are gonna be sick. they reduced a lot of components and made the engine better in almost every way. more thrust, less fuel use, less complexity, more reliability
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>>518166958
it's kayfabe that you need to breathe to stay alive
be an hero and prove them wrong, anon.
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>>518175425
>less complexity
Does this mean they will finally be able to achieve the lost ancient technique of getting multiple engines to fire at the same time?
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>>518175722
The fuck are you even on about?
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>>518175343
>doesn't know how to greentext
pottery
how did rooster tails form without air to provide resistance?
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>>518177801
Analysis of the regolith kicked up by the rover shows that it was done in a near vacuum and with gravity 1/6th of the Earth's gravity

It was a vacuum because the size of the particles did not affect their trajectory (as it would if air resistance existed)
It was 1/6th of the gravity because the distances are known and the acceleration of an object in freefall is independent of the object's mass
This has nothing to do with the framerate of the footage, so "slow mo camera" is not a valid criticism
Film manipulation of this caliber did not exist in the 1970s

That footage is impossible to have been faked on the Earth
https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/proof-we-landed-moon-dust/

Also https://youtu.be/fMHLvoWZfqQ?t=5270
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>>518157437
>>518157056
>>518157513
The official claim is they destroyed the blueprints after it was made because well never need it again and it we do we can just make a new one completely from scratch

Meanwhile the blueprints for every basic building and device are meticulously archived
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>>518178209
there supposed to be no air resistance which is required to form rooster tails you fucking retard.
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>>518178209
>"slow mo camera" is not a valid criticism
>Film manipulation of this caliber did not exist in the 1970s
pathetic.
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>>518178338
That's such a retarded horseshit, they should have just insisted with going to the moon being expensive and useless
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>>518178534
>there
*there's
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>>518157513
White civilization will have same faith as Egyptian or other great ancient civilizations, future Whites if some survive can only wonder how they did it and if no Whites survive there will never be anyone wondering anything
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>>518178534
>which is required to form
no it's not, clown
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>>518157056
>Apollo program ends in 1972
>Von Braun gets cancer in 1973
Loose end, much?
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>>518178725
>no it's not, clown
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>>518178837
and his tombstone
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>>518157056
Cause half of the industry that supplied rocket's details like nuts and bolts does not exist any more. It's gone.
These rockets are like old reliable fridges or CRT TV's - they just don't do them like that cause there is no factories anymore, no production lines, no tech specialists. And half of elements were made by obsolete technology and practicies so it's better just to design a new one from scratch with all the modern achivements in mind.
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>>518178952
>larps as russian for credibility despite showing zero russian character and perfect english
you idiots are so fucking bad at this.
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>>518161012
Yeah, 88 million dollars per day isn’t anywhere near enough money.
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>>518178901
it's almost like there's more to it than an AI generated answer of two sentences
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>>518179054
>larps as russian for credibility
Do you imply that I'm a glowie?
>showing zero russian character
What does that even mean?
>and perfect english
If my English is perfect for you then you still must be in elementary.
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>>518178901
>thinks the moon is in true vacuum
Retard.
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>>518160934
>We actually did and NASA has publicly said this
Sigh... it takes all of a few seconds to Google and a few min of reading at most to see that is unequivocally not true. The concept of lost the tech is at most not knowing the direct tinker like improvements etc in old ass gear. It's like saying USA auto makers lost the tech that made 1960's muscle cars popular.
It has absolutely nothing to do with if we can or can't start now and make it happen again. There is just little reason to send people or bother to go to the moon again. All focus i8s on farther locations, probes, unmanned rovers and satellite tech
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If suns rays melt ice on comets on the edges of solar sysyem, what are contact temps on surface of the moon where there isnt any atmosphere.
Genuine question midwitt here
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>>518179617
>glowie
larp failed
also shills aren't really glowniggers.
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>>518179555
>script digits
pathetic.
>>518179645
pic rel.
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>>518173688
>>518173662
>>518173619


Continue to be seething Faggots while the rest of us Races come together to Live a Life of Love and Flavor and amazing sex.

Find Cope white boy the world doesnt you hate because are simply not worth the effort we just stopped giving a shit about your sad lies and Puccy ass whining.

The movies stopped painting a rosey image of white and now you cant cope with Reality
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>>518179663
>unequivocally not true.
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>>518161012
NASA is also full of niggers and women now, perhaps that has something to do with their current state.
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>reddit spacing
but not a single piece of verifiable evidence for curvature.
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>>518165667
Why are people scared of radiation? The Van Allen belt isn’t strong enough to kill
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>>518178209
>Analysis of the regolith
wtf is regolith?
>Regolith (/ˈrɛɡəlJθ/) is a blanket of unconsolidated, loose, heterogeneous superficial deposits covering solid rock present on Earth, the Moon, Mars, some asteroids, and other terrestrial planets and moons
Ah already into super scientific theories about space dust all across the universe. That really starts the proof off strong, the proof that we went to the moon, since they use so many big words to refer to something as simple as dust
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>>518179845
I browsed through the thread and seen your retarded interpolated and AI stabilized proof as to why shits not real.
>>518179942
>flat earther
Naturally. I'll assume you're just baiting and not actually a mental retard.
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>>518179978
>I browsed through the thread and seen your retarded interpolated and AI stabilized proof as to why shits not real.
no you didn't.
none of my evidence can be described that way.
>Naturally. I'll assume you're just baiting and not actually a mental retard.
'you trolling bro' is a very common left wing tactic.
>>>/gif/29580206
but regardless, you have ZERO verifiable evidence for curvature.
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>>518165667
well what is it?
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>>518179736
I'll just copypaste some segments from "Principles of Planetary Climate" by Pierrehumbert:
>By 1913 it was pretty clear that the daytime temperature of the Moon at the point where the Sun is directly overhead is well in excess of 373 K (the sea-level temperature of boiling water on Earth).
>Night-time temperatures were harder to determine accurately, since the infrared emission from cold objects is weak; however, it was clear that temperatures at night dropped by well over 140 K relative to the daytime peak.
>Pettit and Nicholson observed the temperature of the Moon during the lunar eclipse of 1927, using the Mt. Wilson telescope.
>They found something even more remarkable: over the span of the few hours of the eclipse, the lunar temperature fell from 342 K at the point of observation to 175 K.
>Modern measurements show the daily average temperature at the lunar equator to be around 220 K, while the mean temperature at 85◦ N latitude is 130 K.

>Having no atmosphere or ocean to transport heat, and a rocky surface through which heat is conducted exceedingly slowly, each bit of the [Moon] is, to a good approximation, thermally isolated from the rest.
>Moreover, the rocky surface takes very little time to reach its equilibrium temperature, so the surface temperature at each point is very nearly in equilibrium with the instantaneous absorbed solar radiation, with very little
day–night or seasonal averaging.

How engineers deal with heat and temperature, and why specific windows of time were chosen for the moonlanding, is a fun subject as well.
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>>518180094

Your belly evidence of curvature Faggot


>"if you are able to catch a glimpse of a lunar eclipse, you can see evidence that the Earth is, indeed, round. Here's how it works: Earth passes between the moon and sun, so that the sun projects Earth’s shadow onto the Moon in the night sky. "

Go Outside
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>>518166708
>da wheel has do be air
>all da tires habe da air inside
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we literally have much better and more efficient and cheap rockets

you complain about niggers being too stupid to space, but youre literally the same fucking thing
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>>518180299
>Go Outside
beg me.
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>>518167587
that aint the horizon retard its just the edge of a small hill
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>>518180634
Watch a sunrise, fuck nigger
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>>518180681
lol
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>>518180827
>Watch a sunrise, fuck nigger
seethe
more
faggot
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>>518180918
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>>518166364
Social shaming would be reminding everyone that you're in your mid-40's and you actually paid for Andrew Tate's Hustlers University.
Did you spend $150 or did you wait for the discounted $50?
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>>518157056
>Did we really “lose the tech”?
No.
>Why can’t these be manufactured anymore?
It was all a sham: https://luogocomune.net/americanmoon
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>>518157056
>hire mega autist
>mega autists specialize in something only they can do
>they tend to not document anything and build up a lot of specialized knowledge and experience over decades
>they get old and die
That's pretty much how it happens. Anyone who has a superstar in their workplace knows who these people are, because their loss involves reinvestment from scratch to recover the capability with a whole team of people instead of that one autist.
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>>518181295
>you're so effective we keep a file on you
>and we're so stupid we don't get the facts right
early 40s
I paid for a month of HU when there was a massive shill push claiming it was bullshit to see what it was about--I happen to do several of the things he teaches as a side hustle--and found the information superb (but stuff you could easily find on your own).
It cost me $20.
Andrew Tate is only shameful in your faggot shitlib circles, you have to bot and shill against him so much because he's actually quite popular here.
Just a walking talking /pol/ post who gets ungodly pussy gave Lauren Southern and Juden Peterson's daughter Herpes, and is a millionaire championship kickboxer.
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>>518181368
Who was holding the camera?
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>>518181600
Nothing in your post is making you look good, lol
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>>518157552
>welders

nice try tradie trying to take credit from engineers. Welding is the most inferior way to mate two objects together.
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>>518181654
the space visage.
see >>518180094
I think the kayfabe would be the 'command module'
i like how it's obviously stop motion animation.
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>>518181703
>Nothing in your post is making you look good, lol
where do you think you are kike nigger faggot?
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Genius autistic Goymans died - shitskins/am*rimutts/femoids hired instead.
Most manufacturing outsourced.
Bureaucracy/corruption dozens of times worse than back then.
Priority to pay back (((central bank interest))) instead of funding stuff like this.
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>>518181773
A place that happily ensures retards like you get the rope too
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>>518181874
>A place that happily ensures retards like you get the rope too
I'm the one holding the rope nigger.
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>>518157056
Jeets, they took over all of engineering so jews can cut the budget and keep the rest to themselves, with that all tech going to shit
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>>518179617
>>showing zero russian character
>What does that even mean?
You're not drunk.
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>>518182038
You're a 40-something childless Amerimutt flat earth retard who worships ecelebs.
We are not even remotely on the same level.
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>>518173360
You're funny.
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>>518182085
I was going too say sardonic but that works too.
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>>518182116
You're paid peanuts by satanic pedophiles to lie about the shape of the world.
You're barely people nigger.
And let me remind you, you're violating federal law, and your cuck ass government will not protect you.
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>>518182235
And now the schizobabble starts because you know everything said about you is correct.
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>>518182313
no you were wrong about my age, and how much I paid for HU.
tick
tock
shill
we're coming for you.
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>>518179956
>Why are people scared of radiation?
Cancer.
>The Van Allen belt
There are three of them.
>isn’t strong enough to kill
They're strong enough to damage satellites that get too close.
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>>518182313
>you know everything said about you is correct.
also my wife is pregnant.
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>>518159508
If you want to be really depressed, look into 'cost-plus' contracting. Congress gets to mandate which manufacturers NASA has to go through for everything, and they're obligated by Congress to reimburse contractors for all costs related to completing the contract until the project is completed - which means it's actually more profitable for the contractors to drag projects out instead of getting shit done. If it takes Contractor A ten years to finish a project that should have only taken one, they get paid for ten years of labor and costs in addition to the actual project.

Cost-plus contracts are the single biggest reason why NASA went from being able to launch projects in five years to taking twenty-five.
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>>518182364
>you were wrong
>i'm not 100% a loser
>just 99.99%
lol
lmao
>>518182451
It's almost 5 am in California. You spend pretty much every day reposting flat earth garbage until deep in the night. Your pregnant wife is just as real as your flat earth.
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>>518157056
Lack of competent personnel and the ability to train new ones. As engineering and tech becomes more and more jeeted, things we used to take for granted will start to become impossible.
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>>518182475
also they spread every project across the 50 states as a kind of patronage system so they literally never allocate contracts on the basis of ability, and so thousands of faggot retards can say, 'my dad worked on the shuttle' because he charged $420 for a .04 high temp o-ring or something.
but there are some funny consequences of this system that have taken place right here.
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>>518157056
You never worked a day in your life in any tech industry have you?
Losing tech and means of making something can happen in just a few years, all it takes is the SMEs to retire or leave and you have a ton of people holding legacy bags not understanding how any of it works.
With physical stuff is even worse, esp if you lose the machinery and calibration data made to build those things in the first place.
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>>518182525
>I have a file on you and monitor and track your usage.
lol
thanks you just proved flat earth.
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>>518157552
STAND BACK SON, I'M A MASTER MACHINIST. MASTER WELDER.

AND I WON'T TEACH THE NEXT GENERATION, BECAUSE KIDS THESES DAYS HAD IT TOO EASY BACK WHEN I WAS A KID.
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>>518182763
my dad is literally a master machinist and welder and never taught me either lol
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>>518182642
>having a memory baffles the flat earther
shocking
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>>518157437
>Julius Streicher, 106
the only really based guy on there.
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>>518182826
>I memorized things an anonymous poster said months ago and recited them to him despite having no way to know it was him unless I have access to a shilling backend that tracks users by the memes they post.
you fucking retards are so pathetic its unreal.
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Moon landing deniers really are the most retarded niggers in the world. Maybe only second to flat earth, but they usually come together.
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>>518179736
If you do a quick estimate from power in/power out, equilibrium surface temperature would be like 430K if the Moon were a blackbody. Since it's somewhat reflective it's actually somewhat lower than that - like 400K, which is like 120C.
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>>518182632
capitalicucks have no sense of securing their future

the only reason we haven't run out of carpenters, masons, electricians and plumbers is because there is an ongoing, concerted effort to mentor those skills, an effort created in the 18th and 19th centuries.

meanwhile capitacuckolds are perfectly happy to put their entire future at risk by only having one guy on the team who knows how anything works
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>>518182632
It wasn't just the tech they lost.
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>>518183149
>changes post ID
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>>518183149
nice front projection screen btw
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>>518183023
>anon in thread x spams 100 schizo webms about 9/11 CGI and flat earth
>anon in thread y spams the same 100 schizo webms about 9/11 CGI and flat earth
>anon in thread z spams the same 100 schizo webms about 9/11 CGI and flat earth
>"despite having no way to know it was him"
You not understanding how sorely you stick out is not my problem
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>>518183327
holy shit nice gif
YOINK
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>>518157513
chinese will be able to keep the current level of technology/culture and incrementing it.
Future chinese will look at whites as the example to not follow in terms of racial replacement.
If you look at classical music for example, there are more chinese practicing it than whites rn.
When
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>>518183327
>A Somalian migrant learns about parallax
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>>518182886
This photo murdered my sides
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>>518183396
>I defend the official story of 911 and globe earth
hahhahahahahahhaha
and you claim I stick out? hahahahhahahahaa
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>>518183451
It's cringe to see chinese sing opera and mimick whites with cellos and pianos but it is what it is.
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>>518183451
chinks haven't innovated anything since fireworks.
you guys are good at stealing technology and copying it but as soon as we kick the satanic pedos out we're going to eat your lunch (economically, we know you're not a military threat wumao bro).
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>>518157854
Germans were never ahead at rocketry. America was in the lead and simply scaled up rockets with a massive injection of money equal to 5% of the US government budget. Von Braun was just a figurehead selling the bullshit moon landing race, which was fiction filmed in Hollywood by Kubrick.
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>>518183484
Your reading comprehension is below that of a toddler
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>>518183594
>Your reading comprehension is below that of a toddler
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>>518157056
SR-71 engines maybe, the ceramics tech is known still in theory but the manufacturing methods were lost to the old White silent generation guys who actually did the fabrication.

Same with stuff like the Hoover dam and even the baltimore key bridge. we know how they work but we cant build them anymore. we cant really build new ships either aside from submarines and garbage like the zumwalts. I'm surprised we even got the new nukes running in georgia.

we can build fighter jets, missles, and rockets (spacex) thoughever.
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>>518162831
Cam here to say this. The real TRVTH NVKE is, normies don't care about space, politicians don't care about space, so nothing will ever happen there.
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>>518183239
What is this clip trying to tell?
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>>518183631
zumwalts look pretty sick when they aren't leaking rust.
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>>518183617
Great point, i accept your concession
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>>518158201
similar to what you losers do with all your movie ideas by stealing it all from actual people that you never paid
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>>518183670
Flat earth. If I remember right it's an optical illusion, or spliced video.
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>>518179663
We didn't just lose the blueprints. We "lost" all of the tapes and film related to the Apollo missions. Why haven't we reverse engineered any of that tech that can withstand the massive radiation levels in and beyond the Van Allen Belt?

>It has absolutely nothing to do with if we can or can't start now and make it happen again. There is just little reason to send people or bother to go to the moon again. All focus i8s on farther locations, probes, unmanned rovers and satellite tech

Except theirs untapped resources on the Moon that could be very profitable. Why hasn't any other country gone to the Moon either? Russia was way more advance with their space program and China has made leaps last century. Just very odd ya know?
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>>518183670
>give me a natural language explanation of this video I can't process for my database.
its me fucking roko's basilisk in the ass until it bleeds.
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>>518183731
How does zooming in on a ship disappearing behind the horizon proof flat earth? It proofs a globe.
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>>518183697
>Great point, i accept your concession
like space your victories are entirely imaginary.
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>>518183776
>How does zooming in on a ship disappearing behind the horizon proof flat earth? It proofs a globe.
how would you zoom over the curve you dumb fucking nigger
this is the problem with giving these jobs to 80iq somalis and faggots.
see >>518178534
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>>518183149
Most of them are various kinds of retarded American Protestants or Europeans stupid enough to listen to American Protestants. Its all about returning to the absolute most literal, crayola and water colors tier interpretation of the bible, its the entire driving force behind the shilling. I know flat-earthers IRL and they are ALL the kinds of theologically deficient Protestants who get all their information from trailer park pastors.
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>>518183695
if you hadn't kept changing the requirements and cutting back it could have been the premier warship in the world by not a small margin, literal modern day missile age battleship with genuine combat survivability instead of hoping and praying you get to shoot first like a bitch
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>>518183877
flat earth makes you a Christian
most retarded Christians don't even know the Bible is a flat earth book.
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>>518183867
>how would you zoom over the curve you dumb fucking nigger
You don't. You zoom up to the horizon and you can then clearly see half of the ship is below it.
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>>518183905
I just think it looks cool, battleships seem outdated in the age of hypersonic missiles.
most of the public military spending is just a complicated money laundering scheme, the off the books tech is so fucking wild it's insane.
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>>518183933
at no point does the bible say anything about "the earth" or its shape

the concept of planet earth is a modern astronomical one
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>>518183956
>I'll pretend the video shows something it doesn't.
good luck with that 80iq Somali
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>>518184018
>at no point does the bible say anything about "the earth" or its shape
the firmament is literally on page 1.
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>>518184078
>I'll pretend the video shows something it doesn't.
That's what your entire video collection is lol.
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>>518184104
a king james mistranslation of "raqiya", which is one of those ancient mystery words we don't really know what it actually means or where it comes from, since it is mostly used only in that single passage it is difficult to deduce its meaning by context, we only know it has to do with the sky.

a more modern translation is "an expanse" but that is equally as meaningless
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>>518184205
>That's what your entire video collection is lol.
k
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>>518180094
>retard has never seen his reflection in a pane of glass before
only absolute retards think this is fake or complex
kind of like people who think nuclear power is anything more than spicy rocks boiling water
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>>518184254
>raqiya
lying about the Bible
holy shit anon, you're going to burn in hell.
you realize that you wouldn't be paid to shill this topic if it were false right?
So that means it's true, and if the world is a snowglobe, there's a creator, and you just lied about the Bible to serve your satanic paymasters.
Anon, you're legitimately in danger, stop being a retard.
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>>518184389
that's the camera operator not an astronaut.
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>>518184341
How come you can't see the stuff in front of the cn tower?
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>>518184341
it's a curious effect, it can't be seen every day
the bottom of the buildings is compressed, squashed flat
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>>518178837
The craziest is how he left NASA shortly before Apollo 11.
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prediction: he's not going to address any of these points and will just post another webm
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>>518173360
>indians food literally dogshit
>arabs just a bunch of inbred sand niggers fucking camels and marrying children
>ape niggers unga bunga bixnood muh dick
Yea white people didnt have children until they found niggers, no way thats instantly proven wrong.
>it was real in my mind
Schizo kikes, many suh cases.
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>>518173923
DEI is not the reason in 60 years we didn't go back to the Moon lol. You'd think one of our space shuttles would make a fly by in those 30 years the program it existed.
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>>518184949
shuttle was never meant to leave earth orbit, it was a shuttle, a reusable ferry to launch other things into orbit with

ideally they would have built an actual spaceship with it, and then gone back to the moon in that, but they only built the ISS.
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>>518168547
Okay but again the radiation on the Moon is still an issue that NASA hasn't solved yet.
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>>518157056
>>518157056
>>518157056
Daily reminder that all pro-Israeli threads are made by bunkerchan trannies in cooperation with Valent Projects and iDrama fags, a group of pseudo-academic leftist losers who advertise themselves as "researchers" although they're actually paid shills that hold janny positions, raid /pol/ and spam BBC, trannies, pro-vaxx, feminist threads and make retarded globohomo generals like /cvg/ and /uhg/ (the successor to /cvg/).
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>>518185147
the moon is outside the van allen belts

solar flares are a problem for long term settlements, but a shorter trip can be planned around them
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>man who usually responds within minutes suddenly disappears for 20 minutes when asked to not dodge the question
lol
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>>518185090
Except it's not speed but fuel that's the issue. They could have just slowly burned their fuel in an elliptical around the Earth and they would have gone to the Moon. The issue is the cosmic radiation in and beyond the Van Allen Belt that is a major hindrance. It's just weird with how advanced the Shuttle program was they never left Low Earth Orbit. Even NASA recently admitted we never left it.
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>>518184666
compression distortion and a refractive effect called 'sinking'
You shouldn't be able to see anything but the top half of the tower.
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>>518163294
with regard to all the "we lost the tech" posts, picrel
>>518185147
yeah because a problem that isn't one unless you stay there for 3 years needs desperate solving, sure
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>>518173360
Muh Penut Butter inventor lol
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>>518185402
>the moon is outside the van allen belts

Exactly. And it still gets hit by Cosmic Radiation on a daily basis

>solar flares are a problem for long term settlements, but a shorter trip can be planned around them

So either NASA had some magic tech for the Apollo modules that could withstand the radiation or it didn't. The Van Allen Belt radiation is so powerful that it can't be measured.



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