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So I do some online research, find a jewel shop that sells some neat, certified gold ounces, neatly packed. Check the price, it's like 10% over the price of gold. I then took the subway into the city, walked into that same shop and asked how much are they paying for gold if I was to sell some - about 10% less than the market price.

What's the deal here? If gold traders are over selling and under paying, how am I suppose to make a profit? Is gold for suckers?
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>>518172783
Gold will be worthless like aluminium once they realize how to make gold from the ocean
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Buy the metal, its important they say
>but what do I do with it?
Store in a box for years
>why?
Because um just do it okay
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>>518172783
Always buy 999.9 from the mint. Pay the 10% premium, never open the (plastic,see through case.
Only took two months to get the 10% back. Might even get over spot for limited bars. Bars start at $100.
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Buy Gold ETF. that is designed to track the price of gold then you just sell it like buttcoins. The way it works if someone decides they need to see the gold, they stack a bunch of gold ETF's then demand the ETF to open their baskets and exchange for real gold. But realistically, if youre buying gold to use in industry you pay the over spot premium
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>>518173513
Who do you sell the bars to?
>>518173570
What's a good gold ETF?
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>>518174115
There are jewelers everywhere that buy precious metals. Physical vendors also buy it.
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>>518174115
SPDR GOLD..thats the biggest so most likely to get called (told to open its basket) by big banks to prove they have all the gold in there. 2. The more gold they have the better its protected. So its deep underground, protected by a military and in the event of a major world war they flood the safes. Tell me you protect your 200k of physical gold in your mcmansion from Jimmy the fucken meth head that good (you dont)
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>>518173570
>>518174115
ETFs are fake and gay
You don't have it if you don't own it and Gold is the ultimate hedge against a crashing system
In an ETF your money just vanishes in this case
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>>518172783
so do you think its a stores job to transfer gold from a seller to you the buyer for free beause they have nothing better to do with their time?
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>>518174371
Where did I say that? I'm asking how are you meant to trade gold and make a profit
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>>518174471
You speculate on the price
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>>518172783
You buy it from the low guy and sell to the high guy so you both make 10%. Come on this is an easy one
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>>518172783
Yup that's the risk margin that vendors put in place to mitigate risk.
It's hard to beat the system unless whatever you're investing in goes to the moon and things that are allowed to are usually heavily controlled or artificially manipulated to limit who wins (insider trading 101).
You're not earning the nominal price of gold hut the difference minus the risk margin fee.
Same thing with stocks which is why all apps that allow to invest charges a subscription fee - the money is in the subscription fees and not the market lol.

The whole system is a ponzi/pyramid scheme.
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>>518174309
No Food water and ammo are the 3 hard currencies people that mine gold will trade gold for. Not Gold. You own a certificate that entitles you to ownership of gold in a safe. If the price differs against spot price too much the main owners of certificates can make a call and trade the certificate for physical gold. Its cyber gold that leaves a paper trail when sold. Unlike when you get jacked TF up by a home invasion with a cut off wheel.
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>>518173127
Or by shooting protons at lead or whatever
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Biggest grift of all time.
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>>518172783
Buy silver and gold US legal tender. Its not something you flip after having it for two weeks. Look at the price of gold over the last 20 years...
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>>518174546
>>518174584
Say you buy 5k US worth of gold, put it in a safe, then sell it 5 years later. Are you guaranteed a significant profit (e.g. higher than investing in ETFs)? Considering inflation and all that
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you buy metals for end times not to convert its like a 30 year investment you wont even remember the 10%
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>>518174841
Yes, but how do you account for 20 years of inflation, taxes for trading gold, and any other investment alternatives you could have gone for?
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>>518174734
And you are sure that when a panic occurs, that you get the 0,001% physical Gold with which this ETF is backed?
Good luck anon
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>>518172783
It only makes sense of you hold it like 40 years
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>>518173570
>Buy Gold ETF
t.
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>>518174471
You don't "trade" it like it stock or altcoin.
It's to hold(and in this case, gain) its value and to diversify your investments incase those other higher earning options shit the bed.
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>another gold concern trolling and FUD thread
Just buy Pokemon cards and crypto like you so obviously want to
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>>518174881
Probably but not that much anymore. Buy cryptocurrencies instead.
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>>518174881
No it serves as a long term hedge against inflation the current price rise is tied to fiat currency losing value due to mass inflation since COVID when central banks printed money or as they say "quantitative easing" and the active devaluing of the USD by Trump and because BRICS and other non-Western aligned governments are buying gold instead of USD since 2022 when the US and Europe seized Russia's USD reserves in their central banks time try again in another 20 years and maybe you'll get in at the start
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>>518172783
>What's the deal here? If gold traders are over selling and under paying, how am I suppose to make a profit? Is gold for suckers?
Traders make money on the "spread", same as any other exchange. They want you to be desperate or dumb enough to dump your gold/silver/bitcoin/whatever at below market price, then they turn around and charge above market price to whoever is crazy enough to buy it.

If you don't like that, you can find your own buyer or seller and ask for the market price. Risks include being robbed or being sold fake goods (see picrelated, silver-clad copper core "silver dollar").

You can buy gold bars in Costco stores at right around spot price. Most states don't require you to pay sales tax on that, but a few still do. I don't know where you can sell without getting ripped off.

For junk silver, I was all set to get rid of some at a gun show last year but got sick that weekend and couldn't make it. Sucks even though silver has gone up around 20% since then.
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>>518174920
Gold is useless end times.
Who's going to take your gold?
People who have food, fortified settlements, guns, women, have no use for gold.
>but they'll need a currency!
There's no guarantee they will settle on gold as the currency any more.

In true end times, the real currency will be attractive women and girls, food, entertainment (musicians/orators), guns, ammo, weapons like drones, and batteries/electricity.
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>>518174970
Youre not trading you gold down the street in a crisis. In fact Chicago streets are not paying 10% below spot. Theyre trading far lower because they gauged a sense of societal collapse, desperation and stolen gold. Someone said "sell your gold to a jeweler" thats a good idea but jewelers are most abundant in successful times. if you noticed theres not much jewelers. I can also tell you stories about horrific crimes that took place to get the shiney until Im blue in the face. Your thesis is wrong and you'd be better off with a pack of menthols and a pound of coffee to go trade in the streets of Detroit for whatever you think you'll get there. Proabably a grilled cat sandwich.
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>>518173513
Lmfao retard you will never mske thede gains with gold in your lifetime again you about bought the top
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>>518175306
Could you not use AI to have the readings from the size/proportions (maybe a scan, or multiple photos), and the weight, and see what it could be made of from that? I know copper is a different weight than silver, so shouldn't this be easily found out, or am I simplifying it too much?
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>>518172783
I've dealt gold for 17 years, and I pay 95% and sell for 102-106%. Gold isn't for you. You should buy another coffee, and an electric car.
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>>518175393
One more time: You use the Gold after a new system has been set in place and get a kickstart with money when no one else has any left.
It's not meant for trading in the crisis.
SHTF preparation goes along a lot of other things, and if you only rely on Gold/PMs you're doing it wrong.
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>>518173127
Yes, own paper money printed by Jews that decreases value by 20% every single year. At least you can use it to clean your asshole after pooping.
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>>518174309
>>518175130
ITT : poorfags
Leveraged gold ETFs are the way out of poverty, not stacking retarded mini coins that'll net you -20% of the profit you'll make
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>>518175609
Theres no way you got your spread right to not trade your gold for white bread and survive the crash that doesnt see the bigger picture of holding gold institutionally in a collective safe protected by an army, far away from you living room.
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>>518174935
You don't go 100% in. You need to diversify your bonds nigga.

If the dollar collapses, a roll of silver dimes goes a ways.
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>>518175665
Don't listen to this kike
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>>518174734
>If the price differs against spot price too much the main owners of certificates can make a call and trade the certificate for physical gold.
These certificates are backed by another certificate in circular scheme. There is no actual gold in treasury and even entire countries weren't able to make the call. ETFs are 100% scam.
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>>518175741
>trade your gold for white bread
Nigger i'm Miller as a profession and make my own flour and bread in SHTF scenario selling it for Silver, kek
Where's your god now?
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>>518175774
>lining up a log chart over a linear chart
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>>518175774
Stfu german Goldstein jew, no one is buying your shiny boomer rock lmao
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>>518175774
Absolutely retarded meme
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>>518175478
You can weight it, measure it and do a ping test. You can also use spectrometer but that machine is very expensive and big.
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>>518175898
>>518175901
>>518175906
>Kikes seething
Be sure to stack moar, anon
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>>518175567
Do you run a pawn shop?
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>>518175774
>gold price increases from 2500 to 3500
>OMG IT'S THE SAME AS GOLD GOING FROM 100 MARKS TO 1000+ MARKS (10x+)
Did you finish elementary school maths or you German Jews can't even read charts that you yourself post properly?
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>>518172783
there are only 2 things worth anything in this world - means of production and means of killing. So either buy weapons or invest in companies
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>>518175742
Unfortunately all the silver I got was traded by old people for face value. Its a common practice to hoard silver coins then eventually trade them for at the store for face value on a rainy day. Its like the circle of mercury dimes. SAD! I also used to know a guy that had to testify at a murder trial over some elderly guys fucking silver coins. Because he knew the guy that tortured him to tell him where the coins where...Theres alot of reasons I dont hold gold physically.
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>>518172783
Watch zeitgeist 1
Watch zeitgeist 1 on youtube
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>>518175774
Your pic is comparing graph in logarithmic scale to a graph in linear scale, retard.
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>>518175863
Ok enjoy your 10% over spot. I hope you dont leave the house unattended for too long. If you get got please make a youtube channel where youre crying for the click bait and adsense revenue.
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>>518174309
>You don't have it if you don't own it and Gold is the ultimate hedge against a crashing system
If you're worried about the system crashing you should be buying arable land, machining equipment, solar panels, firearms and ammunition, etc., and making friends with all your neighbours. Or if you're stuck in the city, cigarettes, toilet paper, and again, firearms and ammunition.

Because if the system crashes, your gold will be worthless.
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>>518174115

I started with €25,000 when the war started in Ukraine.

50% Gold physical.
20% Silver Physical.
30% Gold Silver Miners & ETFs

It’s all now worth €60,000. And rising. Premiums of 10% long paid for. I’ll owe about €18k tax on the stocks.

That dealer has to stay in business. Hence the premium for physical. This is just the beginning.
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>>518175311
lemme break it down retard
year 1-5: economic decline
year 6-15: depression
year 16-21: bounce back with a new system like the past 3-4-5-6... times
year 22+ wait for gold to get to a nice level and sell.

u actually think world governments dont have an interest in keeping world governments afloat in any capacity at all even after nukes fly hahaha. something always comes along

let me even break it down for the next 2 centurys: you give it to your kids if times are still shit because your fiat currency is useless and you dont have wealth disappearing
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>>518176232

Actual it’s €72,000 just added it all up.
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>>518176084
Don't care at all, my stack is solid and shiny. What do you have? Crypto? FIAT? Kek
>>518176210
See >>518175609
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>>518175933
But I'm asking if that idea would work, or if the amount of difference of weight wouldn't be enough for it to be a viable option?
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>>518176284
That gold will have been taken from you during the collapse because you were an isolated and ill-prepared retard.
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It is a good idea to exchange US$'s which are not maintaining their value for real items.The people whose responsibility it is to maintain the value of the US$ are destroying our currency instead.
Their is no reason to have faith in the expected future value of the US $. This is why people exchange US $'s for gold, silver, quality land, and quality shelter.
Gold bullion is a good asset to acquire because it is easy to exchange. There are a lot of costs associated with buying and selling land. As OP stated there are transaction costs associated with buying gold but if you hold gold as a way reduce your exposure to inflation these transaction costs are much less than those associated with real assets.
There are no taxes or maintenance costs associated with holding gold unlike property.
It is smart to allocate a percentage of your portfolio to gold to reduce your exposure to the declining purchasing power of the US $.
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>>518176232
Comgrats
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The real play is Silver

you're dumb if you're all in on gold
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>>518176331
Nah there was a big scandal where some Chinese touched gold hord was found with a piece of tungsten rod shoved into the bar. The only way to detect what bars were effected was cutting the bars in half on a hydraulic guillotine. Which they did. Whoever drilled those holes walked away with free gold.
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>>518176210
There are recent current instances of people using small amounts of gold and silver to buy food as their currency became worthless. Argentina and the DRC are both examples in the past 20 years in which grams of gold were the only thing accepted in exchange for food.
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>>518175774
So THIS is one of those "new Germans" I've been hearing about.
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>>518176542
Except those examples I assume trade far below spot. For instance if nobody wants to sell gold at 40% below spot wait until they get drunk and start shooting each other. Then stolen gold is fenced on some shit mountain in Peru.
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>>518172783
>What's the deal here? If gold traders are over selling and under paying, how am I suppose to make a profit?
Did you even listen to WHY they told you to buy gold, dumbfuck?
Gold is not for flipping to make profits, gold is to hedge savings against inflation during times where the markets are risky. Notice how gold goes up in spikes.
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>Kikes boiling with rage
Buy signal
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>>518174734
>>518173570
Jewish as fuck
>>518175393
>Youre not trading you gold down the street in a crisis.
One, that's what silver is for.
Two, if you're holding gold in a crisis you spend it on a ticket out of the crisis to somewhere safe while the unlucky fags with paper nothings are trapped.
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>>518173513
No. Buy bullion sovereigns or britannias in this country, probably Chards has the best prices. These coins are exempt from CGT and VAT.
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>>518175665
>derivatives
poo in it
rent locker
stack physical gold
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>>518172783
10% is standard, if they're charging more than 10% over spot price, you're paying too much.

If they're buying for less than 10% under spot price, you're not getting paid enough for your gold.

How are YOU supposed to profit from it? Same way, buy for 10% less than the spot price if you can, and sell for 10% over if you can.

Or, you can buy at 10% over spot, and hold onto the gold until the price goes up far enough for you to sell at 10% less than spot and STILL make a profit compared to what you paid for it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcsobcJXRrA

Is StableCoin and the Dollar cooked?
Is this Russia propaganda?
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>>518176779
>retarded brownoid doesn't understand leverage
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>>518176738
Even trading US dollar for Euro I was offered 130% over exchange rate at the kiosk ant 200% over exchange rate at some fake Euronet ATM. The bank was willing to do straight rate money market transactions at exchange rate.

Trust me. The "jew" will be hiring 3 people to whip you with whips while you starving marvens attempt to crowd him to show and sell him your shiny. Because someone else will be paying spot you dont have access to and not interested in your little bullshit until its bulk.
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>>518173127

Sure it will Moshe.
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>>518176520
Okay, so what about some sort of electromagnetic frequency generator that is able to listen for echoes, or vibrations within the bar?
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>>518176940
>leverage
begone kike
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>>518176984
10pbt(((idf)))
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>>518176984
>hiring 3 people to whip you with whips while you starving marvens attempt to crowd him to show and sell him your shiny

Ok thats actually a true story.
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>>518177061
you seem to be possibly butt hurt by something.
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>>518172783
There's an old saying, when some wallstreetfag has a taxi driver telling him to buy some stock then it's time to dump.
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>>518173127
Until we mine it from asteroids or find it in mega bulk elsewhere else gold will not stop being of prime importance to trade money backing and industry the phone you are using type this in your shity tel aviv apartment probably has a little under a gram of gold in it
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>>518177189
It might be the hype train where gold just runs like buttcoins. Gold is a commodity while cash is money. I dont like my gold is up and wish it would steady off.
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The sheer number of desperate Kikes tearing their garments in this thread is incredibly bullish.
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>>518175774

The sheer kvetching about this post speaks volumes. Thanks for sharing my image again Germanon. These jewish fucks scream and scatter like cockroaches in the light.
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>>518172783
>10% premium
skill issue
either find a bullion dealer who isn't a kike/shitskin looking to scam you, or buy privately and come prepared to measure density
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>>518177463
It's certainly more useful than BTC I think everyone agrees there, plus it's physical so it's harder to lose (niggers aside).
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>>518177800
As diversified as I am Im holding no coins. I never got the idea of increase difficulty for artificial scarcity of nothing. Me and my friend are both Dogecoin millionaires but lost our keys so our wallets are in a giant mountain of similar cold wallets. Im not too upset about it and my friend has resolved himself into knowing its part of the joke.
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>>518172783
>If gold traders are over selling and under paying, how am I suppose to make a profit? Is gold for suckers?
they wouldnt be selling you gold if they didnt have margins if you check the price chart gold has moved 44% this year so you would be in profit and you dont have to buy/sell to shops i buy a lot of my gold/silver on a forum where people will normally sell gold closer to spot some website will also sell old stock gold or circulated condition coins with lower margins too. here in england we have to pay tax on silver so immediately take a 20% hit but all the silver i bought last year i am now in profit on
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>>518172783
Did you tell them the Judge sent you?
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>>518173513
>Always buy 999.9 from the mint. Pay the 10% premium, never open the (plastic,see through case.
>Only took two months to get the 10% back
nah royal mint has higher premiums than elsewhere youre better off "best value" sovereigns or bitannias from dealers like chards or atkinsons
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>>518177990
What the fuck
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Your average American has no idea they were banned - by their government at the request of the jewish secretary of the treasury - from owning gold for generations.
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>>518175665
not buying your fake jewish financial scheme
gold ETFs trade something like 10x the total amount of gold mined in all of human history.
If people ever start trying to cash in and claim the gold they "own" then the entire thing will collapse and you'll be holding nothing.
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>>518178049

Disregard such Darwinian failures, Bruce, as you would flyblown roadkill on the side of the highway of life.
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>>518175933
>>518175478
ping testing is really good you dont need those pinger clip things either you can jsut balance it on your fingers and tap it with a pen or soemthing
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>>518177690
Thanks again for creating it.
It surely is no coincidence that they all attack it with the same shit
>Muh logarithmic scale in a linear scale
I guess it's out of some shilling handbook.
Keep up the great work and also thanks for this pic
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>>518177990
As far as BTC is concerned I think the artificial scarcity was only useful to get it started, now it lives and dies on FOMO. Realistically it's not even a very good coin anymore, there are better options, but people are convinced it's always going to go up so they keep buying. I think the only thing that could kill it now would be a major holder dumping hard or a flat lining which would inevitably turn into a drop.
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>>518172783
Now isn't the time to buy gold for a gain rather to avoid loss
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>>518178240
>or a flat lining
I mean a plateau not dropping to 0.
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>>518178213

My pleasure Anon. You honour me. Pretty soon gold and silver will be going vertical/parabolic. That the media has been so silent thus far is damning. But soon no one will be able to ignore its value - and that their paper savings, investments, etc have essentially vanished into thin air.

For most people it will be all angry bewilderment. Gnashing teeth and ignorant rage, some never truly understanding what has really happened or why.

But for those who see far, and saw this coming, it will be a rebirth, among the countless destitute and destroyed.

I wish you luck in the world to come, Anon. I have a feeling Germany will be an excellent place to be when the dust settles.
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>>518173127
>once they realize how to make gold from the ocean
newsflash kike, everyone knows how to extract gold and uranium from seawater, it's just totally economically nonviable until an outrageous price point, and that won't change until the price of electricity drops near zero or some radical new filtration method is developed
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>>518175447
>retard doesn’t know
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>>518176238
If you can survive through those scenarios you don't need gold.
And if you can't then it's worthless.
You're severely understating the bottom of the decline, you know what it looks like?
Invaded by a foreign country like in WWII, arrested by police and your property seized.
Or revolution which is a similar scenario, except the revolutionary guard seizes all your assets, puts you in a work camp.
What you're describing is like the mildest of collapses.
You're going to have to bury the gold somewhere you're sure no one can find it, which is near impossible nowadays with ground penetrating radar.
And if you try to leave the country with the gold it will be seized at the border unless you can find some way to smuggle it out. Remember Nobel Prize winners had to dissolve their gold into solution and reconstitute it? Yea good luck doing that.
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>>518178240
>now it lives and dies on FOMO
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>>518176238
>>518178557
And all of this is assuming you even survive. You can hide the gold, then die, then 100 years later someone else finds it.
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>>518172783
the joke is you don't actually profit off gold, because you never sell it.
basically the only way to profit is to get to the point where buyers have to pay you a profit even if they are undervaluing your shares.

So you buy gold to quite literally hold onto it forever.
Because in a doomsday scenario it won't get better, the people who own the current currency (paper or product) still determine what your gold is worth unless you haggle everything and you have to be careful doing that.
Waving around gold when things go to shit is an easy way for you to become the town target.

So you just keep hoarding it, only using small amounts here and there to keep your family alive, give it to your children, repeat.
Current market value is 1/3rd what you buy it for.
There is a reason you only put 10% of your spread into metals.
because I ain't buying your gold unless you drop price by at least 1/4th. Otherwise you're scamming me. I can get gold way cheaper from estate close and the like. Often 1/2 what it is worth.
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Wow. They’re really hitting this hard. The absolute panic.
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>>518177992
>here in england we have to pay tax on silver so immediately take a 20% hit
holy shit man, is it not prudent to just buy in another country at that point?
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>>518178619
Umad because you can't refute what I said.
Take a look at the history of complete societal collapses and count how many times personally hoarding gold actually worked. French revolution? Nope. WWII? Nope.
Nazis hid their gold into swiss banks, now swiss bankers own it, most Nazis can't even claim it because revealing your identity = arrested for war crimes or killed by mossad.
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>>518178750
to be fair though Swiss did also keep the jews gold and told them to fuck off also.
so at least that neutrality was pretty real.
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>>518178750

Every time. Just because the stories of average individuals rarely make it into history.

Let me tell you a story anon of my high school math tutor. He was born in Afghanistan before the Mujahadeen took over. It was much like Iran; a forward looking nation leaving religious fundamentalism behind. Until the Russians and Americans got involved. His family had to flee the country. His Dad was a fairly high up govt official. He put all their money in gold, and used it to escape. They carried it with them under their clothes. A lot of value in gold can be carried quite lightly. 1kg of gold is worth well over $120,000 USD. With this they were smuggled out of the country in empty fuel trucks. From there they made their way country to country - paying in gold every time, a universal money. Until they found their way to Canada. As much as I have mixed feelings about such Browns in my nation, I admire the intelligence, courage and wherewithal of that man and his family.

When existential peril comes for your family, it will be met only with your ignorance, avarice and stupor. And you and yours will just be another handful of bones and ash thrown on the trillions deep pile of other beings that couldn’t make the existential grade.
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>>518178684
i try to buy some whenever i go on holiday yeah, can get lower by buying from people directly too but no one sells near spot because somewhere along the line someone has paid vat on it
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>>518178938
>His Dad was a fairly high up govt official
This is the buried lede of your story.
He was able to smuggle it out because he had the political power to. This power does not apply to civilians.
The very first thing the government will do even before society collapses is reinforce the border to ensure nothing goes in or out without the knowledge of the government (see ICE and the current war on 'cartels').
Nowadays if you buy gold with a credit card they have a record of the transaction and the serial number of the bars and your address. They can just go to your house and torture you for it.
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>>518179093

Anon you’re full of shit.

No amount of political power gave a man the ability to hide gold in his rectum and smuggle his family out in fuel trucks.

You are jewish, arguing in bad faith. Fiat will be destroyed and with it the final vestiges of power and control jews have over Humanity. And you will be purged.
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>>518179334
>No amount of political power gave a man the ability to hide gold in his rectum and smuggle his family out in fuel trucks.
Ok then I'm going to ask you right now to try and smuggle 5 pounds of legal Canadian weed out of the country on an international flight right now and see how you fare before your cargo is identified. You won't get very far I can assure you.
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>>518175624
>Buy gold for 10% loss due to mark up
>sell gold for another 10% loss due to pawn shop Jew needing to resell
>lose 20% of value
Sorry doesn’t matter
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>>518179490
>oh, you think you could do thing?
>then do completely different thing to prove it!
what causes this

>>518179518
stay poor, fag
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>>518179490

Apples and oranges jew. Your attempts to muddy the water won’t work here.
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>>518179682
Everything I've said has been correct. Nothing wrong with storing wealth in gold, but it's not the solution against societal collapse. The solution against societal collapse is GTFOing of the country that you see collapsing into a more stable country. Which means legally transporting gold out of the country in legal amounts over the course of a decade, having property read abroad in the stable country, having your family move there ahead of time to take care of your gold and other assets, etc. By the time the country has collapsed it will be too late for you and your gold.
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>>518180057
My truth rings out and dispels your wishful notions.
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>>518180072

Your entire argument is predicated on fleeing at the first sign of danger. Yet another firm indicator that you’re a jew spreading FUD, and that like your kin you’re an abject coward who doesn’t seem himself as Canadian but just a rootless international parasite always looking for a better host to jump to. The next decade will be righteously harsh to you and I hope we meet.
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>>518172783
A 10% profit is generally what you'll get from precious metals and luxury items, that's the standard across industries for the most part.

Rolex dealers, grey market, generally make a 10% mark-up on what they sell. But of course nobody reputable brags out loud about their best deals.
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>gold went from 35$ to 850$ in the 70s from inflation
>But think of the 10% goyim! Oy veyyy
>Implying we have a volcker that is willing to raise the interest rate to 20% before the public or politicians hang him
>Implying we can survive 20% rate while we now have 37 trillion of debt unlike back then
>Implying foreign central banks havent pivoted to buying gold, giving up faith usa will repay the bonds they hold with anything worthwhile

Somebody somewhere is panicking that people are waking up and the usa is losing its grip

My grandpappy escaped certain death at one point somewhere by bribing a guard with his gold watch. It's a universal language when and where guards cant be bought off with the local worthless currency that the guards dont want because theyre too dumb to know exchange rates or want to deal with that bullshit.
>Durr why didnt the guard just kill him and steal the watch
Not everyone is a spiritual jew, shocker some soldiers dont actually want to murder people and bribing them off is a nice excuse for them to look the other way. Gold is universally understood, toilet paper isnt

There's gonna be a mania for gold but we are nowhere near the peak once gold passes 10k then u can start selling, some say even higher like 15 to 17k
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>>518180057
Since you bring up jews, imagine you're the jew hoarding gold in Nazi Germany thinking he can outlast WWII, as opposed to the smart ones that got the fuck out of dodge and settled in the US.
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>>518180126

Your lies fall flat and jewish. They don’t work anymore. Your end is near.
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>>518180168
My argument is based on history.
Your argument is based on... I don't even know what it's based on. Lord of the Rings and D&D where gold is some magical item?
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>>518172783
>gold money?
>No. May be in another life, who knows?
>Internet schizos almost convinced me.
>Poor schizos, without them we are lost.
>They believe so much in gold they are willing to sacrifice the whole county
>When the time comes, You have to make a choice resist the confiscation of gold or let the dollar die.
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>>518180181

>why don’t you admire all the rich jews who fled Germany when they overplayed their hand, and fled to the west where they began the campaign of social parasitism and depravity we enjoy the fruits of today?

lol yes Moshe keep queuing up redpills.
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>>518180211
And yet I can keep bringing up facts while you can only repeat the same unsanctioned notions.
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>>518180228

Uhuh.
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>>518180275

I haven’t seen one fact yet from you. But I’m happy to use your hebrew ass as a vehicle to redpill others.
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>>518180267
I'm not saying to admire them, I'm asking you to empirically analyze the situation.
Did the jews whose ancestors moved to the US before WWII and now literally control the US fare better or Anne Frank lol.
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>>518180294
>>518180335
Answer this then honestly >>518180347
And I'll have won the argument, good day.
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>>518180335
In 1934 Hitler was issuing MEFO bills
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>>518180347

I’m not interested in splitting hairs with you jew. I just have to wait. The truth needs no advocate, it shines through lies and darkness inevitably with the fullness of time.
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>>518180177
>My grandpappy escaped certain death at one point somewhere by bribing a guard with his gold watch
Guard could take the watch without letting you go. Hell, pretty much any zogbot would do that, because you can't ask for a refund, ya know?
The stories from the past are outdated, humanity have turned into shit since the social media was invented.
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>>518180370

Declare whatever you like. It won’t mean much when you’re righteously purged.
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>>518180438
The only one splitting hairs is you.
All my statements have been broad truths.
If you're from the US and don't already own property outside of the US then you've already lost if the US does collapse.
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>>518180438
Keep em kvetching bro

31 Jesus went on to say, “To what, then, can I compare the people of this generation? What are they like? 32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling out to each other:

“‘We played the pipe for you,
and you did not dance;
we sang a dirge,
and you did not cry.’

33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ 35 But wisdom is proved right by all her children.”
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>>518180483
Kek like a screeching troon that's been found out.
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>>518180530

I can do this all day.
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>>518180547
>I'll call the other guy a jew for... NOT HOARDING GOLD
ahhahaah you're so many layers in in delusion
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>>518180568

All day Moshe.
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>>518180547

Based, Godspeed in your upcoming civil war Anon. May your necklace be heavy and diverse.
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Derp. Ignore good advice. Obviously you buy from the public at scrap value.
Better still wait until I tell you
>but these one or two crypto’s and hold onto them for a little bit
as I sometimes do, a little bit meaning until 6pm today when it’ll double in price (went up 2.5x as i posted the climb in real time in a thread at EXACTLY the time i told you it would) or as I told you late last year just buy xlm and xrp and hold fast - you’ve already sold them at + 500% i presume if you did that.
Gold is tidy FOR KEEPING CASH SAFE BETWEEN DEALS it even goes up a little.
*while i wrote this a message flashed up from my account
>Gold falls 10.1%
yikes. Dunno what it means without looking but I’ve no money in physical or resting in gold backed crypto so I can’t be arsed looking.
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>>518180600
Based anon, keep going, doing Gods work by letting kikes seethe eternally.
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>>518180600
I don't even carw, pease do itnall day, give my redpill truthposts more exposure.
Also I cbf to click your pictures and I'm not jewish anyways so either way I win.
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>>518180630
See >>518180683
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>>518180467
>Bribe with gold watch, non zero% chance you survive, guard MIGHT not let u out but there's always the chance theyre not a spiritual jew
>Sit in cell waiting to be shot in the back of the head like others, zero% chance you survive and 100% chance gold watch will be looted off your corpse anyways

Hmmm i wonder which my granddad chose.
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>>518174881
Historically, gold is less profitable than ETFs. But it's also less volatile.

You should always put 10-20% of your savings into gold.
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>>518180675
Beginning to think you're jewish trying to astroturf people against actual good advice woth multiple IPs lol
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You buy gold from the government, not some fucking jewelry shop, buying and selling price will be the same
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>>518180621
>Oy veyyyy we cant let the goyim have any gold, it's mine! All mine!!!
If I wanted to hoard gold I wouldnt be telling others to buy it therefore driving up demand and prices even faster, jew
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>>518180675

Thanks Germanon. The fact that they are so foaming insane mad is very encouraging. They know the end is near, that theirs is the hand that turns the wheel of Shoah, and that they cannot help but fuck themselves over in the end.

All they can do is scream and lie and try to confound. But too many people are j-woke now. There’s no going back.

And ones like>>518180683 will likely be abandoned or sacrificed by the other modern day Pharisee-analogues, to die in misery and terror.

>If Gentiles knew that the Talmud teach Jews to destroy them they would kill us openly.

This is the kernel in the black heart of every jew. It is at once what drives them and ultimately destroys them. I’d pity them if they weren’t so unambiguously evil.
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>>518180816
The fact you're telling people to hoard it means it's self-defeating as you say, meaning even you don't really believe in it.
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Bullions going up. I did check but you are making £60 on 2.5 grand in a few weeks. It’s a nice safe way of storing money when you are not keeping an eye on it. But as a way of making a killing? Only if you have literally tens of millions of pounds to invest. There’s much faster more profitable killings to be made.
My wallet might have been talking about a gold backed crypto price. I’ve no spare dosh so i don’t care.
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>>518180708

All day. Every day.
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>>518180865
>And ones like>>518180683 (You) # will likely be abandoned or sacrificed by the other modern day Pharisee-analogues, to die in misery and terror.
Oh no, I'll be on the first plane to my house abroad in a ficntioning society while you're neurotically setting up perimeter traps, sich misery and terror lol.
I noticed none of you have answered my very simple challenge here >>518180347
So I'll be redirecting all you charlatans to it from now.
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>>518180865
>very encouraging
This.
Let's not forget they're children of Satan, that's why it feels soo good
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>>518180897
Answe me >>518180347
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>>518180998

lol there is is. Thanks Moshe. It’s been fun. I hope the others watching have found this as illuminating as I have.
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>>518181019

All day. Every day. And twice on Sunday.
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>>518180728
Look, every 20-25 yo white zoomie is a fanboy of Andrew Tate. They believe in "do that thou will" as long as there is no immediate punishment. They will be hired by NWO to execute rebels when SHTF, not some naive old farts like we are.
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>>518181008

Indeed. To fight righteously against the enemies of Good, God, and Nature - no matter the outcome, is Glory.
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So where do you store your physical gold if not at home?
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>>518181185
Be creative and think like your foes do and hide accordingly
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>>518181185

It’s easier than you’d think Anon. As mentioned earlier gold is very value dense. The average person isn’t likely to own more than a few cubic centimeters/inches of gold. It can be hidden anywhere. In books, in small bidet holes, in trees, in your toilet tank, in a fence post. Anywhere.
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>>518172783
You are supposed to pay a little over spot when you buy (not 10%, that's too much), but you are supposed to sell for exactly spot. That's the kike toll they call a "premium" to incentivize merchants to engage in it, and the price of convenience. Why would they spend time doing it for free?
You can sell your gold a little over spot too if you undercut local premiums, but you have to find a buyer yourself, who may or npt be lpoling to rob you. Is it worth it? Then go for it.
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>>518172783
Biggest scam, gold sellers, if money was so worthless then you wouldn't accept cash for gold.
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>>518181323

>bidet holes

That’s embarrassing. It was supposed to say hidey holes.
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>>518181061
>>518181106
Stop pilpulling and answer >>518180347
Free Palestine.
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>>518181323
Given that metal detectors exist, the best places to hide it is close to other metal. Some burry it under the house pipes.
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>>518181427

All day. Every day. Until my people are free from jewish tyranny and not one evil monster like you despoils our sacred soil with your profane presence.
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/biz/raeli chiming in:
Whenever someone is telling you to buy an asset when the price is at an all-time high, they are attempting to use you for exit liquidity.
They want you to buy, because they are selling.
The same is true for any asset class. Houses, precious metals, stocks, crypto.
They bought low and are trying to sell high.
To do this, they need a greater fool who is willing to pay "all time high" prices.
If you don't understand the concept of "exit liquidity" please search the /biz/ archives
Right now you shouldn't be buying gold unless you are willing to hold through a big correction. Maybe 5 years or more.
Anyone telling you otherwise already holds gold, and wants customers to sell to.
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>>518181484
Answer >>518180347
Did the jews whose ancestors moved to the US before WWII and now literally control the US fare better or Anne Frank?
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>>518181323
>You're holding the universe in your hand
Literally
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>>518172783
Dude, it's called dealer premium. You think the gold dealer is going to work for free? He has to pay for rent and to put food on his table and so on. If you buy a huge quantity like, a half kilo or something then the premium you pay would be proportionally less. How do you make money on gold? If you are buying physical gold you're basically betting that the economic system is going to collapse. If you just want to speculate on the price of gold you could buy gold futures or buy into a gold ETF, or buy a gold mining company or a gold mining company ETF... or you could trade options in any of those. There are many ways.
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>>518181507
ding ding ding
I was going to state this fact too but all these guys couldn't get past my lvl 1 argument.
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>>518181507
>They want you to buy, because they are selling.
Will never sell my PM for infinite inflatable FIAT, kek
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>>518181454

This is true. But as an amateur metal detectorist myself, i can tell you that the larger the area you’ve hidden it in (outdoors) the odds of some guy finding it go up exponentially. Also a lot of detectors have a fairly limited range depth wise. And again gold is small.

Metal Detector fear is just Fudd. I guarantee in your home are more than a dozen places where you could hide 10oz of gold and it would never be found.
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>>518181509

I don’t care because you’re a jew and your only weapon is lies. Why on earth would I ever allow you to have the advantage.
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>>518181645
Answer >>518180347
>you're a jew because I say you are!
>you're a jew because you don't hoard gold!
>you're a jew because you advocate for real workable prep strategies like becoming a global citizen!
le mental gymnastics lol
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>>518173127
Yeah like how diamonds went to 0 when they figured out how to make cubits draconia
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>>518172783
It's always best to buy what the MSNBC money are reporting as being at multi decade and All time highs because the experts always take this as confirmation that the price will just continue climbing. It's one of the best technical indicators in trading that if something is at a peak it will most likely keep going
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>>518174471
its not a shitcoin you zoomtard its a preservation of wealth. the difference in buy vs sell spread is the universe's fee for not letting kikes evaporate your savings with their jewish schemes. you arent supposed to be buying and selling it on the daily and if number goes up 400% in a day like your frogcoins then there is some serious shit going on that means you should be in your fucking bunker and loading mags not going to the local merchant to sell anything
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>>518181543

>literally

It blew my mind to learn the gold I own, was forged in not one but multiple supernovae. Requiring a vast amount of time, guided by the laws of physics and reality themselves, atoms in space being collected into stars that lived, died and exploded, casting material out into the void. Only for them - aeons later - to fall into another star which itself grew old and died, with their death throes bringing into creation something so unique and special as gold. And the countless years it took to accrete into this solar system, this world. To be pulled from the Earth by the hands of man, refined and smelted down into something pure, absolute and immortal. Gold is something truly incredible that most people cannot fully understand - but when they have its weight in their hand, it speaks to a deep a fundamental part of the human ancestral psyche. No one who hasn’t held an ounce of their own gold in their hand can truly appreciate this, and how it feels like Truth in a world of jewish Lies.
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>>518181750

All day. Every day. Until the end.

jew.
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>>518181832
Diamonds are basically labubu/stanley cups for boomers. I haven't met a single young person willing to pay hundred times more $ for a (less pure than artificial) shiny rock just because it was mined by african child slaves owned by (((DeBeers))).
Another reason for their value was dirty money transfer (hard to detect in the airport, can hide diamonds worth millions in your prison pocket), but now crypto fulfills this role.
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>>518182083
isn't everything heavier than iron nova-generated
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>>518182171

Yes but many of the heaviest elements require multiple supernova
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>>518182109
Answer >>518180347, coward
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>>518182083
I guess it's no coincidence that Gold and God only differs in one letter.
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>>518182338

Show foreskin Moshe.
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>>518172783
I won't buy that because I am not able to tell "Gold" from lead that has been given a gold color. So what am I supposed to do? That's just as make-believe as fiat.
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>>518182539

>I am unable to overcome a simple physical testing requirement that was mastered by Stone Age savages thousands of years ago

>therefore I will be subject to existential, Darwinian destruction as a result of my ignorance and lack of agency/will

>I have come here to Pooh Pooh you because it salves my self awareness of my fundamental shortcomings.
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>>518182438
you first
and answer >>518180347
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>>518172783
>price, it's like 10% over the price of gold. I then took the subway into the city, walked into that same shop and asked how much are they paying for gold if I was to sell some - about 10% less than the market price
Cost of doing business. They have to pay wages, etc...
>If gold traders are over selling and under paying, how am I suppose to make a profit?
Clearly it has to go up 20% for you to start profiting via that channel. Perhaps there is an alternative channel through which you can buy/sell?
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>>518175277
Nah. Gold has consistently gone up. Hell, silver skyrocketed i remember buying at 25 an oz and thinking it was a stupid price and now its nearly 50.
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Premium on gold sovereigns is about 4% and if you ordered online recently then the premium would've paid for itself before you even received it.
You get fucked on selling bars, coins are better.
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>>518176232
This is the opening salvo.. You and I got in cheap. We must still accumulate, but our pace is now dictated by us.
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>>518172783
Yep. Buy precious metal ETFs if you want to profit from gold.
Your SHTF fund should be bullets, canned goods, and high proof grain alcohol. Anyone telling you to hoard gold is a fucking retard who will be scalped and raped to death in the hypothetical where gold becomes relevant.
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>>518172783
Got lots of gold
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>>518172783
You wait for the price to increase above the 10% deficit they would accept… do you not know how trading works?
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>>518173127
You can actually use a nuclear fission plant to turn mercury into gold, bonus from producing electricity, do with that, as you will. Jew.
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>>518174768
There was that paper the other month about using the neutrons from tritium fusion to convert a blanket of mercury into gold. It would take a couple of years to cool off into nonradioactive gold, and tritium fusion has its own set of problems, but the physics was sound. No idea how difficult the engineering is. They estimated about three tons of synthetic gold per reactor per year
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>>518172783
you are getting jewed hard over there
here it's like 3% between the buy and the sell price
all stamped by the central bank btw
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>>518174827
Bruh, nation states are gobbling up the shiny. China is now over 30,000 fkn tons of the shit. BRICS is a commodity based ecosystem and gold and silver are pillars there.
You're not too late. You can easily start adding a few grams here and there, it adds up quickly.
And I am telling your right now, once you own some gold and silver your realize how worthless paper currencies are. The grift and and BS is the USD and the Fed.
Silver and Gold end the Fed which ends the khazar grip over the US.
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How much gold can I purchase with 20k eurobucks? Can I get a gold bar with the swastika stamped on it like the one Bond had in Goldfinger?
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>>518185776
a gold bar that big is worth a million euros
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>>518186007
Damn, it was 5k pounds in the movie. Inflation is real. Can a get a smaller one and have them stamp it with the thing?
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>>518180126
This kike is making me buy more silver today. SETF would never have sparked my interest if the shills weren't so incompetent and obvious. Just amazing.
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>>518185776
you can get like 4 or 5 coins idiot
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>>518172783
Yeah buy high when it's being hyped, that sounds smart.
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>>518186449
Are they customizable? Like, can I specify what is engraved on them?
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>>518174734
>to ownership of gold in a safe
>whoops we loaned that gold out to someone else and gave them priority
>also we loaned out 100x more than we had
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>>518178144
You are incorrect here.
As current FED bank "money out of nothing" system fails, and as older generations (boomers) hoard absolute majority of the wealth
>(and not sharing, and that's the reason for a collapse - boomers can't sell their houses to anyone, nobody has any money).
you need a way to pass money to younger generations that doesn't include money staying with boomers.

So. Crypto currencies will be a way for younger generations to generate wealth .
>if you missed 1000x run in bitcoins
>there will be another 100x run in the next wave of cryptos
>or 10x
>before the gov will legislate majority of the pajeet scams and shitcoins
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>>518188562
> yes goy, the real way to wealth is 1s and 0s, Don't you dare buy real world physical assets with your rapidly failing goybux
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>>518178563
You don't understand the reality of cryptos .
Right now scammers btw have DATABASES of credit cards numbers stolen from banks that they use to rip everybody off.
The scammers are also mass using mobile deposists to deposit fake checks and stealing money this way as well .
Crypto with security will be a system that will be A LOT securer.
>and a lot cheaper than current credit cards

>>518188562
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>>518176232
>50% tax on capital gains

lmao ass rape, why even invest legally at that point, just buy bitcoin and convert to monero
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>>518188856
>trust us goy, TRILLIONS of electronic "stocks" that you are "trading" in a computer on a casino floor called "stock market"
>are the real stocks and represent an ownership of a company
>and not digital bets in a digital casino
I swear some people are clueless .
There is no difference, both stocks and cryptos are the same digits in a casino.

Buy real gold, except you don't have the money and would have to work 3 jobs .
Or you can get a clue , see that crypto is the hottest digital market RIGHT NOW that already went 100x where some young people made millions .
>while your stack of gold worth $5000 DOUBLED ,gasp
Don't get me wrong I also stack gold.
You just don't dismiss the hottest market of the whole generation.
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>>518189206
Don't worry about me bro. My physical holdings exceed my digital.
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>>518189440
Very nice.
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>>518186339
Buying is fine as an investment. It's just not going to be a safety in the event of a collapse l.
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>>518176746
I don't want to haggle when I sell it. 999.9 or bust
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>>518189612
There isn't going to be a collapse. Or invasion. Its a long slow trudge into serfdom for those who don't own assets. Real physical ones.
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>>518189753
In the trudge to serfdom there are going to be warlords killing and stealing from one another.
Your gold is just going to make you a lootbag in that scenario.
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>>518184756
Why not torture people with it. It would really piss off the people being tortured innit?
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>>518189850
> thinks spineless people like him will walk into serfdom willingly
> can't own both PMs and guns, goy!
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>>518172783
There is a premium to buy Silver and Gold.
The physical market disagrees with the spot price.
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>>518190340
>it's a long slow trudge into serfdom
>actually you have to be spineless for there to be serfdom
Which is it you disingenuous faggot?
Your AWP isn't going to do anything against the organized paramilitaries with a hundred people and drones.
Look at South America today. See those cartels? That's what it's going to be like.
You're going to swear fealty to one or another of them or they'll skin your face.
Caught hiding gold from the big man?
Your mouth will taste your balls before death.
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>>518192126
> how dare you stack PMs! They are worthless and yet rampaging hordes of shitskins will take it from you
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>>518192501
Dodging the argument again, pathetic.
Second challenge to shame you with. How are you with your little boomstick going to stop paramilitaries from invading your home?
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>>518186695
Give a man a crowbar and he can rob you of thousands, give a man a bank and he can rob you and your children of everything.
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>>518192693
> how will you defend yourself against this imaginary threat I propose that will never, ever happen due to geography and the loss of control over our systems.
Motherfucker, I live in a white rural community, and we make the law here. You lost, Trump is tearing the banksters control systems out, and none of your fearmongering about invasions has any weight. Like Canadians will do shit.
Come on down, cupcake! I don't fear paramilitary. WE WOULD BE THEM. Your FUD is fucking useless.
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>>518193183
>Trump is tearing the banksters control systems out
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>>518193183
Omg, this is the kind of gem that draws me out of the woodwork. Since rural hick with not experience in the larger world overestimates the external effects of his rural hick bubble of a life, much less their impact on the larger world.

I am here, you have been witness, you glorious fool.
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Just be Indian. I have 1.2 kilos of gold lying around.
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>>518193183
>>518193342
FUCK, I left out my favorite part. *pats dumb hick on the head* Yes dear boy, your glorious hero is saving you AS WE SPEAK. Sit tight, patriots are in control.

Oh, I get a rush when I say that line, I love it so much.
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>>518193342
Well, soak it in, buttercup.
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>>518193183
>I live in a white rural community, and we make the law here.
Spoken like a truly coddled American.
You think your white rural community is going to be able to do shit against pic rel?
They'll hear about your white rural community and the virginal white chicks, launch a night raid with drones and night vision and subdue you all in an hour or less.
Then they'll torture you for the location of your valuables then kill you anyway.
The only people to which hoarding gold actually applies and benefits are the likes of Zuckerberg, Bezos et al already with their own paramilitaries and doomsday bunkers.
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>>518193467
Remember glowniggers, there is nothing more endearing to these hicks than repeating comforting platitudes. Don't ask me why, just just eat them up. "Patriots are in control", and just like that, they go back to eating their possum pie.
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>>518177438
Mining from asteroids would be so expensive it would be better to more cost effective to discover alchemy.
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>>518193467
This dumb hick was smart enough to know the bankers plan of flooding the USA with shitskins indicates there's a hiccup in the plans. Extrapolate, and evaluate and improvise. Hick math, ya know?
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>>518193572
> oh shiver me timbers!
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>>518193862
>I'm gonna sell my gold after society rebounds from collapse!
Are you familiar with ebay and facebook marketplace TODAY in a yet-to-collapse USA?
People still get jumped, mugged, and killed, and that's WITH an intact law enforcement and society.

You ask one person if they're interested in buying gold, they'll tell someone else "So-and-so has gold to sell" and you'll be murked.

Is Boris going to survive a remote drone strike?
Future paramilitaries aren't going to have to risk humans. They might even send a spot robot. They'll just neutralize you from afar then pick through the burnt wreckage for your safe.
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>>518193726
Don't take the hick part personal. I'm probably more of a hick, just not as dumb about what happens to the Amish, or idiot bubbles like you live in once they've fucked the cities and nation up.

But, really, you asked for it by acting like Trump was doing anything the bankers care to stop. Thus I will use my rich understanding of city slickers, and willfully ignorant hicks like yourself to come at you from every angle as I enjoy my favorite passtime of mocking arrogant idiots pretending they are winning anything against the current system. Entrophy might save your shit hole for last, but the way the country goes, so does your shithole, eventually. Few more boomers in your area die out and no one moves in to buy the reverse mortaged homes, so the USG pays the bank sitting on the title to allow them to rent the home to some migrants. Next thing you know, your shithole is singing the same tune.
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Remember WACO
Remember Chris Dorner
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>>518172783
You missed the boat idiot.
But you can hold my bags, golds gone up 50% within 3 years. That's unheard-of and a sign of an absolute shit hole economy with zero faith in governments.
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>>518172783
get silver. swap it for gold when the gold to silver ratio is below 40
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>>518194050
> doesn't have the IQ to connect Q and Trump post deltas
Tell me more, fren.
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>>518194033
> more imaginary scenarios about invading the isolated North American continent with cartel paramilitaries despite the 400 million guns in the hands of citizens
Man, I'm really scared now, tell me more!
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>>518182155
>but now crypto fulfills this role.
ahahahahahahahahaha get a load of this fucking retard
yeah crypto is untrackable you got it anon
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>>518172783
>Buying anything from a JEWelry shop
Try a coin shop, retard. Their spread is like 4% and if you can contain yourself you can buy when the premium is low and sell when it is high.
Spread is better on popular silver items though because there is more volume. 1oz rounds and bars are the best, followed by junk silver, then coins.
Also all those costs you are bitching about are completely mogged by the 100% rise over the last 2 years. And it will keep going up as foreigners move away from the dollar and treasury moves to revalue its gold.
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>>518194587
Nothing imaginary about what I'm saying.
As I said, Waco and Chris Dorner are two cases where they've deployed squads against and you can expect to fare about the same.
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>>518174253
Dude if shit hits the fan I don't think your gold etf is going to mean anything. You'd be worried about all the looting and people going crazy when the elite shut off the power and water for 2 or 3 months. Look up cyber polygon, it's a fake simulation for such event done by the WEF just like the did event 201 for COVID.
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>>518194447
You weren't supposed to admit you were a q-tard, you were supposed to dance around it like the ashamed idiot you are. Now we know you're actually retarded, and it's taken the fun right from my sails. FUCK.

Okay, that was a winning play in the scope of this argument, but good lord dude, I hope you're trolling, cause that's a lifetime of "L's" to take.
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>>518195117
Shits changed, bro. New management. Pay attention!
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>>518172783
>What's the deal here?
>the deal is you are retarded

It's called margin, how businesses profit. They aren't there to give you a deal but to make a living. Now STFU and read up on auctions and see how those work.
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>>518195303
> ad hominem with no intention of addressing evidence
Such towering intellect, I kneel!
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>>518195369
Yes, me calling you a q-tard after you admitted to being a q-tard is peck ad hominem. I'm such a fool anon, no idea why I didn't pick up on your scent earlier. No offense meant to your very difficult circumstances. Anyways, isn't jello cool, I love the slurping sounds you make while eating it.
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>>518195316
>ICE won't be weaponized against me!
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>>518194951
>buy when premium low, sell when high
>the basics right there

PM always buy & hold, maybe sell on the gamble it's peaked.
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>>518173127
If we turn the ocean into gold, where will we get fish from?
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>>518195369
Evidence? I mean, check out our hero Trump and all the hard lifting he's done for us hard working Americans! I would never solict evidence to refute the narrative of a self-professed retard! How dare you indicate otherwise. Anyways, back to jello... thoughts? I wanted to make sure we were talking about something we were both equally informed on, I hate people that 'punch down', as it were.
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>>518195504
Call me whatever you want. I am getting rich as fuck from being able to connect the dots.

>>518195558
Legal US citizen, bruv. ICE doesn't scare me, neither does the holocaust or hitler. Those are only scary to some people.
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>>518195663
Will you admit the bankers plans was to flood the USA with low IQ brown shit skins? I'm pretty convinced the kalergi plan was in full swing.
How do you explain that stopping? I'm listening.
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>>518195807
They're already going after legal citizens lol
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>>518195928
Oh, so the dramatic imbalance and projected data between white becoming a minority changed while I wasn't looking? News to me, or perhaps you're swallowing cotton candy and calling it nurishment?.... hmm, to bad we are both too retarded to care. Le Trump will fix it if he hasn't already. Trust the plan, patriots are in control. We just need to stay strong in our faith in god... I mean TRUMP. *cough*

I keep throwing you softballs you could just bunt in, but insist on reminding us you are, in fact, retarded instead. My jello opener has closed.
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>>518196181
Only brainwashed idiots believe that. The rest of us are breathing a sigh of relief to get these swarthy foreign invaders out of our homeland.
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>>518196383
Does the Trump admit pay it's shills, or do you fools still work for free like the last term?
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>>518196492
*admin

Don't want to confuse the retard, afterall.
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>>518196360
Why is the border closed? Why are the filthy illegal 3rd worlders being tossed out? I'm listening.
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>>518194643
Learn to research, spastic.
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>>518196561
Oh, I'm sorry, did they have to level the spigot turned on AFTER the bucket was full to prove that you're presenting a lose as a 'win'?

If I steal all your money, then stop because you have no more money, you'll not charge me of a crime because I stopped already?

Jesus, I really hope your a shill man. I hate thinking so poorly of any man's intellectual abilities.
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>>518196561
My guess, is this retard copes so hard, Trump could bash one knee in today, another tomorrow, and then stop because this idiot is handicap for life, and he'd score it as Trump doing him a solid.

With being a loser running so deep in their veins, best to just walk away. But like a train wreck, I just cannot.
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>>518175447
Have you considered that fiat currency is spiralling out of control and is becoming zimbabwean rock notes in real time?
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>>518181832
Unless you are using them for drilling then yes they are worthless kike rocks.
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>>518173127
no no, there is gold in the heads of jews, which is why they're so smart.

so once we start cracking your skulls we can all get gold
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>>518172783
Just buy from Costco. Their markup isn't too bad.

Coin / bullion stores will probably pay you more. You'd be retarded to deal with a jewelry store.
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>>518197213
Fuck, I'm jealous. I wish I could shitpost like this. Short, imaginative, nails the subtle-to-idiots mockery levels, all without being too wordy and heady.

Show me the way master.
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>>518196790
> damage done can't be undone, chud!
I know, I should be so demoralized. But why did the spigot close and the water start being drained? Was there a change in management?

>>518196935
You seem to confuse my recognition of change with some sort of idol worship. Odd.
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>>518197615
You ignored my question very selectively when I asked about changed to projected outcomes. Is there a reason you ignored that question when this new question seems so directly related, and merely reframes the obvious answer to my question as yet another copium of yours?

Yes, the bucket filled. They got the level of immigration and watering down of the old stock they desired, then fed morons like you some candy and said they had stopped, instead of completed, and your dumbass bought it, because you don't care about outcomes, just narratives you can spin. *hur dur* They stopped beating me daily, so I love them now! I mean, they only stopped because it was interfering with my slave labor, but hey! Trump's a swell guy and I like how he talks!
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>>518197615
The objective truth is, for all you or I know, they turned off the spigot merely because they finally awoke to the observable truth that these third-world scum and white US Citizens are not equal producing products like they originally assumed. But that you believe they change ANYTHING out of a desire to make the country better for US Citizens as opposed to their own conflicting interests.... cute bro. I'm sure there'll start deporting significant numbers tomorrow like he promised. Oh, and no new wars (Yemen and Iran say hi!), stop the Ukraine war and Israeli genocide instead of getting us further intwined with foreign waters.

Yes, you are winning bro, the rest of us are just too bitter to notice. It's you man, you're the one with clear sight.
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>>518189190

0% on gold and silver
33% on stocks
40% on ETFs

Sit down poorfag.
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>>518182686
I am not pooh poohing anyone. You misunderstand.
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>>518197954
Watching you get triggered is one of the little pleasures in life. Your low IQ prevents you from connecting the dots and getting wealthy, and here you are, all mad that I figured it out, and am turning a small fortune into a breddy good one.

>>518198342
That was hard to admit, I bet. I appreciate the recognition of my superior intellect and situation evaluation skillset. Now I can chuckle while my investments make me 3x my salary weekly.
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>>518173127
>they will figure out how to do this super expensive process and that will make the product really cheap
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>>518172783
You can run your business on two different legs:
1) Agency business,
2) Risk business.

What you describe is the spread. An agency business seeks out and charges a spread, or sets up an arbitrage. His business exists within that spread. A risk business would be seeking to speculate on the gold itself and not neccessarily seek a spread or arbitrage.

You as a speculator are running a risk business. Your coin shops, your stock and forex brokers, and crypto exchanges, are agency businesses. See?
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>>518189190
I don't know about where you live, but it's 50% of capital gains are taxed at your tax bracket. Meaning if you make $100,000 then you pay tax on $50,000 and at 50% your tax is $25,000 which is actually less than tax from employment which is why rich people don't work. There's also the loophole where you move to somewhere without capital gains tax before selling.
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>>518173127
First the World will figure out the cheap lampshade creation process.
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>>518173127
This would likely be expensive energy wise to produce.
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>>518199588
Adding to this, every ounce of gold he buys at -10% he tries to balance with selling an equivalent delta gold short at spot in his margin account. Every ounce he sells to customers at +10% he tries to balance with buying an equivalent delta gold long at spot in his margin account. This way he is capturing as much of his spread as fast as possible, since he is an agency business (gold trader) and not a risk business (gold speculator).
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>>518199360
LOL, you're acting smug while admitting you still work for a salary?

I haven't worked a day in three years. You literally moved the entire conversation into a new subject you were so embarassed. One you would lose if I was stupid enough to detail my financials to a moron on the internet. But that you're still working for USD that is devaluing faster that I could spend what I already had on gold? Well sir, you just keep winning.

*yawn* meanwhile I've retired at 40, as opposed to this boomer windbag still working and pretending it's a win as opposed to being a mark.
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>>518200235
> so flexy
Well, you sure showed me!
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>>518200355
Not quite, more like I described the thing, and your indicated a visual image that aligns with what I described indicates you now 'see' the light.

I'm glad you still have the confidence to keep trying though. You'll get one right, I'm sure, you just need to keep trying.
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>>518196985
precisely why you're making 0 profit . yes your gold bags pump, so does the price of everything else lmao
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>>518172783
Nigger
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>>518172783
>>518172783
>>518172783
Reminder that the "no tail" posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize furfag degeneracy across the board.
You're welcome.
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