They are already at the advanced stages of development, flying loopings with that thing while the US still only has a ppt and lots of official proclamations.
They even have two different flying.
A. Niggers>t. Wu Mao
And their electromagnetic carrier catapult actually works.
>>518352928>reality/thread
America funds the R&D, China exfiltrates the schematics and builds it
>>518352928Because china is the only human country and I hope china exterminates all americans. American lives don't matter, american opinions don't matter, nothing americans do matter because 1 Chinese = 1000000 americans
>>518352928Top tier university engineering courses comprise entirely of; cheating jeets that will do anything to get the qualification apart from learn the subject materiel, Chinese elites that paid massive domes to get access to American education and PHD content to steal and send home, DEI wogs that will pass if they spell their name correctly and possibly 1 white American who is being constantly demoralised by university courses on how to “be a good guy”.
>>518352928Brother.. america is eons ahead of everyone else. Your secret service just doesn't want others to copy+paste their shit so they keep it under a mountain.
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>>518352928I don't understand how a video of a plane flying normally is proof of a generational leap in technology.
>>518352928The US has been flying 6th gen prototypes since at least 2019. Unless these Chinese craft are going into full scale production next year then they're still playing catch up.
>>518353582probably also because this tech can be very dangerous, imagine if any nigger can blow up a city
>>518353277I hope you like China, because you're being deported there.
I'm tired of pretending china is this big enemy #1. The US and China are frenemies. They depend on each other and use each other as justification to do shit. Just like the US and russia.
>>518352928Why can't china produce a domestic commercial aircraft?
>>518354728n-no you can't point that out
>>518353163Those ill fitting panels really scramble the incoming radar. Don't you know China has shiny cities and foreigner areas that are nice so they are advanced. They definitely do not build things out of concrete with rebar they collected from mall rubbish bins.
>>518354728Too busy building fucking 9Gee planes that fly down through China and emerge square in the middle of the US heartland.
>>518352928>chinese 6th genMay I see one?
"We Fight From High Place"
>>518352928I've noticed turd world nations like China and Russia routinely flex their aircraft's flexibility by doing rolls and other aerial acrobaticsIt must be a communist thing like military parades and bragging about the literacy rate
>>518352928The fact that their 6th gens didn't spend their incubation period in a DEI ruled corporate hellscape probably helped.
>>518352928These are Chinese tech demonstrators, and they aren't 6th gen. They're tech demonstrators for 5th gen technologies. They use a different classification system over there, so it's not really that easy to compare things one-to-one. But we do know that China still hasn't figured out how to build the jet engines for their 4th gen fighters.I'll give you a hint: the advanced engines are what *really* make 6th gen 6th gen. Cosmetic things like tailless designs (stuff the West has done for 80 years already) is not how 6th gen is defined. It's about power production, speed, and range. All of which is dependent on engines. Without the engines, you're stuck in 4th gen. You can't do any of the things even 5th gen does.>>518354330The US was flying technology demonstrators on or before 2014. The first two actual prototypes of nearly-final designs for the NGAD program (the USAF's 6th gen program) were both flying and "breaking records" before Trump left office the first time. The auto-pen then put the program on hold rather than choose a winner and start initial rate production. They likely continued on as internal projects at Boeing and Lockheed Martin just to keep everything fresh and see if they can still sell it to the military eventually. Then Trump came back and gave Boeing the go-ahead to start. The first airframes for finalizing avionics will start testing next year, the F-47.The US Navy had their own version, the F/A-XX program, which had another three planes in development. Lockheed Martin dropped out to focus on NGAD, but Boeing and Northrop Grumman produced prototypes that are likely just as mature as the NGAD prototypes. We know slightly less about the F/A-XX program, just that the auto-pen also paused the program. Actually, F/A-XX began flying tech demonstrators a year before NGAD. Trump seems to be holding off on actually naming a winner for F/A-XX and starting procurement, probably because the Navy needs to focus more on shipbuilding right now.
>>518354728They still haven't figured out the manufacturing techniques for the tolerances required or the material science to build a modern working jet engine. I'm sure they could steal some old Soviet bomber engines and stick them onto a flying tube, but the cost of running them just wouldn't be economical. China can't not have an air force, at least on paper. But they can keep the performance and fuel efficiency a secret and just not let their pilots get any flight hours due to the high expense. If they used commercial airliners they'd be unable to hide that data.
>>518355768The engines for the J-50 are advanced tho. And tailless, all moving wingtip designs require advanced FBW. These 'tech demonstrators' are hence being able to perform maneuvers like this.
>>518352928Manned shit is for show, billion dollar target practice dummies.
>>518355177They're still fighting a 4th gen air war. It's all about the fancy maneuvers and dogfighting at close range. They've never even developed the doctrines for flying 5th gen fighters, much less have the planning and intelligence to try and figure out how to fight with 6th gen tactics. They can't afford the flight hours necessary to develop real experience and try things out in training, much less the combat experience to see what works in the real world. >>518356102Yeah, we heard that before, with all of China's other planes. And then when they went into production they stuck old, much less powerful, much less efficient engines into the operational units, promised they'd eventually upgrade them, and then fail to do so after many years.It may very well be possible that China is capable of designing, in a computer, a working modern jet engine. It may even very well be possible that China is capable, with a great deal of money and effort and trial-and-error, to build one or two or even three bespoke, handcrafted prototype engines that are reasonably good enough to stick into a prototype airframe, and claim these are matching the final design and performance targets they made on the computer. It may even very well be possible that their claim is true, for that one or two or three bespoke, handcrafted prototype engines.But can China mass produce high performance modern jet engines, that will correctly fit into their mass produced airframes, and hold up to the rigors of combat flight conditions over the service life of the airframe? Obviously not. We can tell because China hasn't done it yet. If they could do it, they would want to, and they would do it. Instead, we hear nothing but excuses and promises of future upgrades.
>>518352928>”Why China onry make 6 gen?"VPNs were a mistake.
>>518352928>Thinking the black hole of funding for the new Raptor just went nowhere and that the US would allow their most sophisticated military technology to appear in a tik tok vid so foreign governments can study and prepare counter technologies.You think Obama just let a high tech drone crash in Iran because of incompitence?Do you really the leaked UFO vids the navy released is tech we dont know about?Do you really think our innovation ended at the SR-71?The American people are the greatest spreaders of deflection and weaponized fake incompetence we have.You dont know the real tech we have its not being shown to anyone. There are giagantic underground facilities and high orbit testing facilities well out of veiw of any cellphone or satellite that test the next generations weapons and machines of war. Nothing is pioleted by people anymore. We had tech like this in the 80s.There are about 5 generations of top secret machines that will only be unveiled if another nation trumps what we keep public. Its all about getting the enemy to play their hand first. Dont be fucking retarded.
>>518357263This. We stopped declassifying stuff after the fall of the soviet union. No need for the propaganda anymore.
>>518356646All of China's planes eventually received their designated engines, including the WS-15 and WS-19 for the J-35 respectively. The entire engine bottleneck discussion has been 5 years out of date.
>>518352928We had those in the 80's. People thought they were UFOs. No joke!
>>518357263Your post is a bit schizo, but directionally true. We have more evidence today of a Mach 6 or 7 strategic bomber currently in the US inventory than we had of the F-117 before it got revealed. And there was some evidence of the F-117 before it got revealed. There's still some aircraft from the 1980s that never got declassified, including at least one high end EW platform.I don't know if we have anti-grav figured out, but I don't know that we haven't. The government has been working in labs with high energy and isotopes nobody else has access to, for over 80 fucking years. They recruit all the top mathematicians, chemists, and physicists while they're still in college, at all the top colleges across all of NATO and probably beyond, and they don't get to publish in academic journals.We know a bit of what the Manhattan Project did to keep its secrets. They only got more sophisticated in hiding what they're working on. And the terror of an actual nuclear war against the Soviets or anyone else, created an intense focus with virtually limitless resources put into making sure the US never lost such a war. It was a disaster when the Soviets built their own atomic bomb, and started working on a hydrogen bomb. The US learned its lesson, not to use its best stuff except in direst existential need, so nobody else develops their own version and imperils all of human civilization.Any technology that would disrupt the defenses we've established against global thermonuclear war (including MAD doctrine), but would allow us to defeat an enemy if they tried to attack us first, has to be kept absolutely secret. They will go to any lengths to keep it secret, including the most evil depraved shit you can imagine, all in order to ensure the Soviets, or now China, don't copy it.Any disclosure is really just a warning: don't fuck with us, we've always got another card to play no matter how much you think you've "caught up".
>>518352928The last time America tested it's 6th gen fighter, the entire world went into a panic and thought aliens were invading and pol wouldn't stop talking about alien invasions for months afterwards.That is how far ahead America actually is.
>>518354728They do though you fucking retard
Americans started messing with the F-22 raptor in the 80s, they for sure have something better up their sleeves by now.Without being a tinfoilnigger, I bet they got some toys that can't be shown to the public at all.
>>518352928because tue US replaced all the retiring/dying boomer engineers with saaars and tyrones.
>>518352928
>>518355177>american thinking illiteracy is something to brag about and be proud ofThat tracks.
>>518360788havent you been paying attention bjorn? we got you-ayy-pees that can teleport entire malaysian aircraft into the shadow dimension. were probably building war od the worlds tripods in our DUMBs right now.
>>518361015Kek, whatever tech you dorks over there have, it's probably a lot more advanced than what is public knowledge, that's for sure.And I assume most of it would never see the light of day unless there is a big SHTF situation
>>518360992It's only our niggers who can't read. You try and teach a nigger to read and see how good a job you are able to do with it.And no, they don't work in our defense industry.
>>518353114Eh I just saw both planes take off lmao, try harder next time Chang
>>518352928Cuz wipipo can’t make anything unless it costs 10x more and takes 2 decades longer. When it comes to grifting, europeans are the biggest grifters whose economy is completely based off begging bowl gibsmedat socialist economics. There ain’t a white roach alive now or ever that didn’t grift with a begging bowl. Get rid of gibsmedat, and the white population disappears overnight by half.
>>518352928holy shit a 7th gen chinesium jet just flew over my houseChina will be a superpower by 2020 mark my words
>>518354728They do your moron
>>518359325Very well said. There’s a big difference between someone who rushes to show off their “newest and most advanced” platforms to the public, and someone who has nothing to prove and keeps everything secret until absolutely necessary
>>518352928That looks wildly unstable enven for a fly by wire system this is nuts! The flight computer must be working overtime to keep that thing from spinning uncontrollably like a leaf
>>518356646Lmao pathetic trailer propaganda from Gordon Chang. Kys. You lost every battle since Korea, and china was at the forefront. Lost Vietnam? China. Lost Afghanistan? China. Lost Iran? China. Lost rare earths? China. Sent accelerating? China. You’re an empty shell, a naked Appalachian mobile dweller who thinks he’s emperor due to mental illness. The world ignored your bullying, but not anymore. Your country will be broken in half, and you white trash will still be yeehawing about mug white supremacy as the last of you get stomped into extinction.
>>518362108Cough white phosporusAnd muh depopulation agendaRemember when brown kids had to die?I do
>>518352928How much longer are we going to be at the mercy of idiot-men warring?
>>518352928>Stealth super secret jet>Gets filmed all the damn time???
>>518361260Yeah, our best stuff is the stuff we will never use at all unless nukes start flying. Most of the disclosures we've even done were just slip-ups by retarded presidents or their staffs. The B-1 bomber wouldn't have even been revealed at all if not for one such retard revealing an earlier project to score political points, which turned it into a political thing other retards campaigned on later. And that's not even a particularly technologically advanced aircraft, it just has some strategic value in a nuclear war decades ago. Stealth helicopters getting revealed were Obama's fuck-up. We've had whole entire military formations only become public knowledge because some asshole wanted to sound important to the press, but nobody had a clue before that. And none of that is one-off experimental DARPA shit. Those were all big programs.We're not in the habit of revealing much of anything, unless it's such an obvious thing that midwit voters would start to ask about all on their own, and their even lower IQ representatives in Congress start asking generals and admirals about in public hearings. When China or Russia show off some prototype propaganda weapon, and the American voter starts to get nervous, that's when the Pentagon comes out and says we already developed and procured hundreds of the thing and put it in service years before, and allows a few photos to leak. Then Russia or China soil themselves a little and try to come up with some new propaganda prototype. Which inevitably isn't even their own idea, but came from an open, unclassified white paper from the US a decade or several before, discussing how such a thing is already possible with existing US capabilities, if only the money was spent.
>>518352928and the US doesn't even have a functioning 5th gen jet
>>518352928Probally China AI slob AGAIN, suck a cock OP.
>>518352928>Why is only China capable of making 6th gensBecause China has the manufacturing base. This means that China has the engineering staff. And this means China is a knowledge society, because you need knowledge and understanding to do engineering. There is no need for engineering knowledge in deindustrialized societies like America, whose economy is based on financial services and raw material exports. America first has to rebuild its engineering base before it can reindustrialize. That requires a completely remade education system. But average IQ in America across all american racial groups is like 87, so the average amerimutt is really dumb, and due to the low quality of the american human capital, a consequence of the low quality of the american genetic capital, America will not be able to compete with China. The chinks have like 10 gen 6 projects running in parallel. So far we have only seen 3 of them. They also have a heavy missile cruiser in the works, a 30 000 ton ship that completely mogs the arleigh burkes and zumwalts of the USN.
>>518356010Ftr all soviet and chinese jet engines have their origin the bong rolls royce design they bought in the 60s when the UK was bankrupt and trying to normalise societ relations.They never developed it in the first place.
>>518362291EVERYBODY THANK DEI, THIS IS WHAT IT HAS WROUGHT ONCE AGAINt. works in industry
>>518352928Any pajeets in China are doing menial labor instead of being appointed as managers at aerospace companies in order to BTFO whitey.
>>518352928They're only good at making propaganda.
>>518352928It is going to real funny seeing the flying doritos getting down by Rods of Gods
>>518362291LOL this old story.What happened was we were building F-35s faster than we could build maintenance facilities to do the regular maintenance on them, or train enough personnel to do the work, so the facilities started backing up. We were giving our F-35 pilots so many flight hours as the jets were getting delivered that they all hit their maintenance cycles very quickly, but luckily more planes were constantly being delivered so the pilots just hopped in new jets and kept flying.In other words, the proportion of ready airframes was low, but the absolute numbers of ready airframes kept increasing and our pilots were getting lots of experience and developing the doctrine around using them.The solution was just to train more ground crews, build more facilities for maintenance, which they did, which they were always going to do, and then they caught up with the backlog and returned those airframes to service at normal levels for a fighter and there's a lot more units flying them now too.>>518362478Liar.
>>518362233As I expected. It only makes sense being in the position the US is in.I think a part of me always suspected this ever since I saw the B-2 Spirit footage going around in the early 2000's on the interwebs(Still awesome aesthetics today) and among other countless documentaries of what you lads were playing around with during the cold war, which was superior capabilities at the time and probably is still today to some extent.Must be some mindbending shit in some of those undisclosed hangars today
>>518353163>>518354882Thats a F22 LMAO
>>518362747everyone tell the shitskin to return to his shithole
>>518362607>Rods of GodsDelusional.The effectiveness of such a weapon depends entirely upon where it is landing. If the bedrock is porous in the area its landing it'll just "SCHLOOP" through the ground without an explosive transfer of energy. We can barely put into orbit space stations made of light weight kevlar, mylar and aluminium one section at a time. Let alone tungsten rods twice the size of telephone poles.It was just sci-fi nonsense dreamed up by politicians trying to think their way around early space weapon treaties.
>>518353343I went to a state university engineering program somewhat recently, and my classes were like 95% White men. Only token women and Asians. No jeets, they all got filtered.
>>518362747which only goes to show how much maintenance the F-35s require to keep them flying. the consequence of this is that in a real high-intensity war, the F-35s will spend most of their time in the hangars waiting to be repaired.
>>518362999Is it made out of highly ferrous alloys or something? Ameriniggers run out of titanium or something?
>>518363397This will be a 10 million tax dollar repaint job thank you
>>518363333I mean as we've seen in Israel vs. anybody with a conscience they rarely use F-35s for any sorties. They're saved entirely for the big missions. And all that stealth bullshit is worthless because even the Houthis now have missiles that can target them, but anti-missile counter-measures have gotten really good now. Which is another point against the F-35 because an F-16 with a skilled pilot can dodge missiles just fine for a fraction of the cost.
>>518363564The paint itself appears to be rusting. Which, to me, suggests that the paint contains a lot of iron possibly to facilitate electrical currents. Must be a sort of metamaterial that can probably pull the radar waves around the outside of and effectively "through" the plane. Very interesting. But impractical if it's going to need a new coat of multi-million dollar wonderwaffle flat black #3 paint every time it flies.
>>518360488>electronic-psychological warfare synergy of systemshas got to be bureaucrat-speak somewhere.
>>518363904Also another problem with metamaterial invisibility is that it has to be tuned to very specific bands of EM. The Chinks and Russians probably figured out that it is metamaterial and their "Advanced" radar is just radar operating on uncommon bands.
>>518352928>>518352969ayy lmao
>>518352928Oh they put a body kit on a MIG-15 so it looks like some obsolete experimental western shape from the 50s? China is truly the greatest country on earth, they can copy shit and eat bats.
>>518363984We’re sorry, we didn’t know it was supposed to be invisible
>>518363984>>518363904you are right, stealth(american) is a meme
>>518363984The radar that stealth tech is somewhat bad against is low-frequency radar, which can pick up a somethingburger at very long range compared to high-frequency radar, but identifying what the hell it is and acquiring a targeting solution are different matters, the latter definitely requiring high-frequency radar, which stealth is very good against. Best hope one has is vectoring in something that is or possesses some other kind of sensor to hit a stealth aircraft if it's only tracked by low-frequency.
>>518364185>it's international news when an American stealth aircraft has to dodge a missile... and does, in fact, dodge the missileYou do not realize it, but you are proving the point for us.
>>518364185>shitskins dont know what "stealth" is or the tactical purpose of ittypical, that's why they're shitskins and looked down upon
>>518362747>What happened was we were building F-35s faster than we could build maintenance facilities to do the regular maintenance on them, or train enough personnel to do the work, so the facilities started backing up.The F-35 is a hangar queen that has to be maintained in dedicated facilities at great cost. Which is why they have so low ready rates, they are simply parked to save on money. Its literally the first airplane that is sold according to the "an airforce as a subscription" model.
>>518364362>You do not realize it, but you are proving the point for us.yeah, against houthis RPGs lmao
>>518364362The point is that the exorbitant price tag on the F-35 is utterly worthless against anyone with a basic understanding of how the stealth technology works which includes impoverished camel herders with 50 year old SAMs. If it's not stealthy then there's literally no point in not just having an F-16 fly the mission at a fraction of the cost. They're just a flying Lockjeet Martin ad.
>>518364498>Dune coon fires missile at jet>It doesn't hit>Jet completes mission>Some chink all like "JET BTFO!"
>>518364675>I like being ripped off by my government for military wunder bullshit that is basically just a big jewish money laundering scheme.
>>518364734>Setting up the inevitable cope that your stuff is SUPPOSED to be shitty
>>518364675Its not like they didnt suffer any losses from Dune Coons tho
>>518364850You're a jew.Nothing you say matters.You disgusting satanic rat demon. God will prevail.
>>518364498The houthis have been supplied with Russias most advanced missiles though. Infact Russians are in Yemen providing the houthis intel and assistance.
>>518364647They're in the same price bracket as Eurofighters, often cheaper, you are just making shit up.
>>518364890see>>518364884
>>5183648620 F-35s have been shot down despite being used to bomb Iran.
>>518363333No, it just shows that the pilots were flying them a lot. After the CBO report, Congress authorized funding to be accelerated to build the maintenance facilities sooner, and now readiness levels are normal. All aircraft require regular maintenance. If you fly them a lot, they need a lot of maintenance. There's no getting around that. China's pilots don't fly hardly at all. If you think that's an advantage, you're just a retard. The biggest advantage the US has is its experience, both in combat and simulated combat. At the end of the day, even if China did have the best technology, they'd still lose because they don't know how to use it effectively.We're not talking about serious repairs, here, anyway. We're talking about topping off fluids, checking everything over to make sure nothing is wrong, replacing a few things that are expected to wear out at certain numbers of flight hours. It's the kind of stuff you'd do with any vehicle. But if you don't have the manpower and the hangars to do it in, the parking lot starts to get full.Overall, the F-35 has proven to be a more reliable aircraft, per flight hour, than pretty much all of its predecessors. But when you build 1200 of them, and fly them over a million flight hours total, you are going to need to do a lot of regularly scheduled maintenance.
Just filter the NAFO kikesThey do not possess the genuine self-awareness required for a frank discussion.
>>518364885If the Iranians are giving them okay-ish tech and the Russians are organizing the air defense net, then yeah, they'll get some shots off. And average accuracy will be terrible, precisely what we're seeing.
>>518361411>2 ENGINESTry that with a single engine, Chang.
>>518364916fuck off chink, I don't care if Tel Aviv gets hit with tactical nukes. You don't have an argument, you lost, you're a bitch.
>>518365077try that with a EMALS, chud
>>518355768All the major def tech media journals are saying that FA/XX announcement will be this week
>>518365077Listen you braindead shitskin kikeEngines can be scaled- big or small. More engines = more control but more weight per thrust due to decreased volumetric efficiency. (more of the weight budget goes towards material for engine nacelles, etc)This is why you rely on US military aid. Because kikes are too god damn stupid to figure out basic engineering. Without white people shoving a spoon in your mouth you would starve to death in a week. You're already wallowing in your own shit because we took away the chamber pot.
>>518352928NGAD has been flying for several years. It's just not being done around people.
>>518364461As I explained, the ready rates are not low, not anymore. They were only low, way back when that old story was a thing, because Congress didn't allocate money quick enough to build the facilities compared to how much money they allocated to build new airframes. Plus it takes time to train up experienced ground crews. It was a brand new aircraft.>>518364647They F-16 would have been shot at from much farther away, and might not have been able to complete its mission at all. And the cost of the F-35 is actually quite reasonable. Maybe not for a poor country like yours. But everyone who can afford a military seems to like them.>>518364862>Non-stealthy jet fell off the ship because somebody didn't put a chain on it while the ship was maneuvering.Oh no stealth must be worthless then.>>518364890Eurofighter is way less capable, though. Europeans should just stick to building missiles. Some of their missiles are actually pretty great.
>>518363322Stem PhD at Harvard. Cohort of about 50 was 30% Asian Jews, 30% EuroJews, 15% Private school Jews/wasps, 15% public school Jews/wasps. There were two non-Jewish jeetas.
>>518354330China still hasn't demonstrated a plane with proper 5th gen capability.Just like how the Su-57 was shilled as world beating 5th gen fighter until we realized it wasn't stealthy, wasn't particularly agile and relied entirely on imported western electronics from the 90s. That plane is a glorified 4th gen design with some minor RCS reduction.So far there's been no indication that these chinese planes are stealthy, that their speed or maneuverability is notably advanced or that their electronic capabilities are modern or even domestically produced. We know that they stick imported 4th gen Russian engines on them, because they can't build modern engines themselves, and that they use a domestic equivalent to Russia's modern radar systems.The China strong shilling is just kind of cringe desu.
>>518365691>because somebody didn't put a chain on it while the ship was maneuveringIt makes it WORSE tho.Can we really expect your soldier/navy to fight for your country anymore?
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>>518362999Checked and wrecked>>518355768Why is Cbinese avionics so behind when they have incredible STEM institutes? Is it simply their focus on missile and naval?
bruh
>>518352928You can make a brick fly with enough thrust and some control surfaces.No vertical stabilizer(s) means less drag, less radar signature, but also less maneuverability - as there are fewer control surfaces.It's a trade-off.
>>518365303You know EMALs has been working for 10 years, and our carrier with it is in active service, right? I guess not.>>518365350They've been saying that every week since before the F-47 announcement happened. I'll believe it when I see it.>>518365633It's been flying for 11+ years, at least in the tech demonstrators. The final design was ready 5+ years ago, plus or minus some avionics testing.>>518365891These tech demonstrators by China look to me to simply be trying to demonstrate tailless flying, which is something they've been unable to figure out before. While tailless flight might be a feature of some 6th gen aircraft, that's just one element and not a particularly major element. It's something the West figured out a century ago. Most 6th gen technology isn't readily apparent from cosmetic features.>>518365891These aircraft were revealed as a domestic propaganda stunt for Mao's birthday. This sort of thing is apparently what China considers impressive.>>518365895Maneuvers sometimes happen quickly. Aircraft are moved all the time as part of regular flight ops. When they're moving, they're not chained down. When they aren't, they are. If a maneuver is sudden enough a plane might go overboard. In that case, the captain wanted to protect the ship from an incoming missile, and was unable to provide enough warning for the crew to stop and secure moving aircraft. It's obviously not a great thing to happen, but it's got nothing to do with the competence of the crew or the capabilities of the aircraft. If your country ever fights a war, you'll quickly find out wars are chaotic and involve unexpected things happening.Anyway, no lives lost, and the plane is still being manufactured, so it's already replaced. It's only money.
>>518367024>You know EMALs has been working for 10 years, and our carrier with it is in active serviceYou never catapulted a F35 with it, which is a fact, you know that right? I guess not.>but it's got nothing to do with the competence of the crew or the capabilities of the aircraftYea it fucking does tho, you just keep coping.
>>518366158>Why is Cbinese avionics so behind when they have incredible STEM institutes? Is it simply their focus on missile and naval?I don't know if they do have incredible STEM institutes. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. What they don't have is a high trust society and low corruption rates that would enable their domestic industries to handle something as complex as building a modern high performance aircraft in large numbers. You can't cut corners on something like that, and you can't do it when everyone in the supply chain is looking to screw you over at every level within each organization. Very hard to verify when everyone's just trying to cover their asses, too, and will lie and say they did the work, or they checked the work, even when they know the people under them are incompetent and just as corrupt, which they may not because those people under them are lying too.Anyone who's done business in China knows you have to micromanage everything, down to the lowest factory worker, or else they'll be way out of tolerance, use cheaper materials and pocket the difference so it breaks, or run any number of other scams. Now imagine a machine built out of hundreds of thousands of individual parts, sourced from numerous different factories, and each one must be made to exacting standards of the whole thing rips itself apart, if not immediately than somewhere unexpected down the line.And how do you micromanage everything when all your micromanagers are just as untrustworthy? Gotta micromanage them too, with another layer of oversight. And nobody wants to step out of line and point out a problem that's not strictly in their responsibility.It comes down to what they're reasonably able to make, in large enough numbers to matter, at a cost they're willing to pay. You end up having to design something with a lot more tolerance, and thus lower performance, and then you have to throw out half of what comes off the assembly line.
>>518365691>As I explained, the ready rates are not low, not anymore. They were only low, way back when that old story was a thingthe story is from 2024. you are making a very big claim here by saying that the problem has been resolved in less than a year, and yet you are not providing any sources. lets remember what we are talking about here: less than 10% availability rate. that's not just "lagging behind in maintenance because congress didn't allocate enough money", that's a catastrophic 90% of your fleet waiting to be repaired and unusable. doesn't really matter if you build 1200 when you can only use 120, does it?
>>518352928OP believes the paper kitten has claws.
>>518352928It’s like Independence Day. Do you think Will Smith can help us out or is he still depressed from getting cucked
>>518368006>What they don't have is a high trust society and low corruption rates that would enable their domestic industries to handle something as complex as building a modern high performance aircraftThe US doesn't have that anymore either
>>518367311First F-35 launched by EMALs was in November 2011.You're confused by the fact the USS Ford hasn't deployed with the F-35 onboard yet, and the USS Ford has the EMALS. It's got nothing to do with EMALS. The US also operates steam-catapult-using aircraft carriers that aren't certified to deploy with the F-35. The catapult isn't the issue.When they designed and started building the USS Ford (along with all our other carriers), the F-35C wasn't yet a completed design. The F-35C needs special facilities onboard the ship to maintain and repair the aircraft. Same story for any aircraft. The types of aircraft that can be deployed on any given carrier is based on the facilities on the ship. For ships that predate a given aircraft, they need to be refitted for those new facilities. For ships that are designed and built after a given aircraft enters service, they will have those facilities already included in the design.The USS Ford will eventually go through a refit to handle F-35 maintenance. The next ship in its class, the USS Kennedy, has that capability already, and when it is commissioned it will deploy with F-35Cs onboard. Same with all future Ford-class carriers.Similarity, a number of older steam-catapult-using aircraft carriers have already gone through a refit, though not all of them. The ones closer to retirement aren't likely to ever be refit and certified, since they'll just be replaced by new Ford-class carriers that have that capability.Pretty soon all the carriers will go through the same thing with the F/A-XX. Some carriers will be able to deploy with it, some won't, some may never be able to, but all the future ones will.
>>518369330>You're confused by the fact the USS Ford hasn't deployed with the F-35 onboard yet, and the USS Ford has the EMALS. It's got nothing to do with EMALS.Ok the USS Ford commissioned in 2017, the F35 shortly after that. Its been how long? Why cant the Ford launch F35c? How can you be optimistic given that fact?Meanwhile the Fujian was launched in 2022.
>>518362011Topkek, look at this moron and laugh.The B-2 was publicly displayed before manufacturing began.Maybe you should learn your own history, shit-for-brains.It's simply naive to believe you can keep anything secret in the space age nevermind digital age.Everybody knows this except you.
>>518352928>so fast, so stealth, so next gen, it can be recorded from the ground with muh shitty phone
>>518369779>How can you be optimistic given that fact?I just explained it. Just because China doesn't use its green-water navy for anything except coast guard patrols and intimidating fishermen, and can spend all of its time in and near port, doesn't mean other countries do. The USS Ford's been busy. As a blue-water navy capital ship, it's been doing constant exercises with allies (the US has those), deployments (out of sight of our coastline), port visits (other nations actually welcome us), and deterrence missions (projecting power beyond our shores). It's been all over the Atlantic, Arctic, and Mediterranean all these years. Refits require an extended port stay and then a period of certification and crew work-ups. We like to do those only when there's sufficient reason.Since the US operates more than a single carrier, it can deploy its F-35s on the ones already refit for its use. At least nine US carriers have that capability by the way. How many carriers does China have total? Three? And two have ramps? Oh.But yes, I'm sure your newer aircraft carrier was designed to operate with its more newer technologies. That's the same as the US, as I've explained. Older Chinese carriers would require refits too, to operate newer aircraft. I would think that would be common sense, but I guess it's not so common in your country.
Is it time for the daily CCP propaganda thread already? Too bad your own investors know what a scam your own military is, chinky boy. I know how much your military industrial stocks crashed after xinnie the pooh's little toy parade.HEY JANNIES THESE THREADS ARE STATE-SPONSORED DO YOUR FUCKING JOBS YOU LAZY FAT FUCKS
>>518370621>he doesn't know about china's urge to rush to show everyone what it "invented" to try and get investors to flock to chinaDo you ever wonder what happened to that atomic battery they supposedly invented? Or maybe that fusion reactor they bragged about.
>>518352928because their system doesn't allow massive corporations to strangle the shit out of their military and delay/demand more
>>518371731It's been launching its other aircraft. We have more than one kind, just like we have more than one supercarrier. As explained. But I guess you really don't have the capacity to understand.The EMALS can launch at least 7 different kinds of manned aircraft, the F-35 is just one of them.
https://youtu.be/swj75EU8xCw
>>518371510there are only two carriers that host an F-35C squadron (CVN-70 and CVN-72, 10 each) and neither are deployed at the moment. basically the F-35 does not exist in carriers, because it doesn't really work.
>>518372238Why do you even argue with the shills? They are literally paid to post, you’re just encouraging them…. What’s your angle?
>>518372009wtf but I thought communism was... le bad?
>>518352928There are a billion of them, they have three digits IQs, they speak the same language, and they've crushed their boomers from rent-seeking their way into an unsustainable senior welfare state, and their government is set up to allow people to actually build things.
>>518372579We only have four US Navy F-35C squadrons (a fifth is transitioning). We have way more F/A-18E/F squadrons. Obviously the squadrons are not constantly deployed and can't be everywhere at once at all times. Nonetheless, there are 9 US carriers with the facilities onboard to operate the F-35. It's still a new plane, there's going to be more squadrons eventually and they will deploy more often on any of the carriers that have been refit to handle them, plus the new carriers that are designed to handle them from the start. The F-35 works great.>>518374177I enjoy talking about this stuff. Often there are people who get informed when I do and are thankful for the information. I know I can't convince the chinks but other people do read these threads and see how retarded they are.The other day I got to talk a lot about hypersonics, it was fun.
>>518357263>The American people are the greatest shabbos goyim, wilful slaves of the JewsFTFY
>>518374760Lol. Good lad. Carry on >it’s always fun when people learn we’ve had hypersonics since the 50s/60s
>>518371688thank you for bringing my attention to this matter, airman hernandez
>>518374760this is how a F-35 looks after returning from a deployment in a carrier. it simply does not work in an environment with humidity and high salinity. they require special climatized hangars just to not rust. that's why there are only two token squadrons of F-35 in carriers, they are not useful for most practical purposes
>>518375759more examples
>>518353163Look buddy, we could fix that but Israel needs 100BN dollars first. What’s more important, starving Jewish grannies or American security?
>>518375759Stop apologizing for that piece of shit. Even Lockheed themselves admit they fucked up and that the F-35 will never be as good as their F-22 Raptor because the guys who designed/built F-22s were all fired for the DEI cause. That's the real reason the F-35 sucks and always has problems... just like the people who designed and built the damned thing.
>F-35 is not that goodb..but we bought 24 of them
>>518376975
>>518352928why do chinks pick-me-post on here so much?
>>518352928>>518352969>"stealth">It can be seen clearlyI guess it's the alibaba kind of stealth kek
>>518362011Wh- why do I want to rub her belly when she does that ???
>>518377629It's crap because it requires a lot of maintenance and troubleshooting is difficult, it will have a high maintenance time vs oeprationnal time but it is still better than any other crap made on earth and available for the non USAF peasants
No one is in this planes
>>518352969Those two planes are just China showing off the Top Secret aircraft tech that israel sold to China after stealing it from the US. No this isn't just cope, those planes represent literal trillions of dollars of OUR tax money (plus a bunch of debt that we now owe) flushed down drain so that some fucking yids could pocket a few billion dollars at most.Thanks, kikes; very cool!
>>518380391this
>>518352928What China doesn't seem to understand is that it's not about the way the aircraft looks that makes it 6 or whatever other gen, it's about the technology and capabilities of the craft. I feel like China is just making 4th gen aircrafts LOOK like 6th gen without truly understanding what it means to be in a generation.It's kinda of wild to think about.
>>518352928China is not beholden to kikery.
>>518374760>(a fifth is transitioning)Kek. Even their aircraft need to dilate
>>518382156According to whom?
>>518370621He was talking about the F117 you dumb germatroon
>>518362999yeah the temu version, rusting dragon, lol
>>518375759i love it when retards that don't understand maintenance and engineering tradeoffs chime in. how about you go make some more cured meat since that's about where your nation's technological achievements left off. faggot
>>518376975f25 and f22 serve different purposes. they were never intended to be on parity. troon
>>518375759>f35>joint strike fighterpick one.
>>518352928Oh well? Let the Chinese be on top for a while, America can't even keep her dumb fuck cities under control and you're going to die from multi-cultural liberalism, the niggers, spics, poopjeets are all going to fuck shit up just to protect Karen's fee fees, ideas matter and you fucked up big time Amerimutts. Notice how I didn't list Chinese or other eastern Asians as a problem in America? Because they aren't and they actually get shit done and like white people, you better make sure you keep it so they like you before you dumb yourselves down to nigger level to them.
>>518352928How do you know that's a 6th gen?
>>518352928It's illegal to make cool shit in the west.>>518353187probably true, these are american designed machines, exported to china, who shall be the kingpin of globohomo.
>>518361411Also look how fast the US f35 gains altitude kek. The chinkplane35 is coasting into the sky while the f35 gains a significant altitude advantage within seconds
>>518384505does the chinkplane35 rust in a matter of hours like the F-35? >>518376242
>>518360788I don't really have hope there.The entire point of the cool machine is to show the world how badly you can fuck them up.The 80's were a functional society, we decided to take over mmo's and deserted shitpits over gas prices. We made the f-35 and spent the better part of 30 years doing it. I admit, I think the USA might be feigning weakness because they want china or russia to fuck around and find out so we can stay relevant for a few decades, But technology stagnated in the 60's everything since has been 1's and zeros. Which can only keep track of shit. We BARELY, touched the surface of what you can do with a computer and an aircraft. But we are unironically too scared of that pandoras box to open it. The long term goal is to distract creatives with infinite free bread and circuses until mindless chinks can dissolve the tech pipeline.
>>518384888Meanwhile Australia doesn't have enough pilots so we made fighter craft drones that attach to individual pilots, so each pilot can be his own entire wing
>>518384747Your lack of understanding is showing kek. Oxidation is a lot easier to remove from the aircraft than an enemy missile
>>518385216maybe, nobody is saying that the F-35 is bad when it actually flies. but when the plane that costs $100 million needs a climatized hangar and dozens of hours of maintenance after every mission, maybe it is just not very useful in practice. and that's why not even the US navy uses it, most of the carriers are still using F-18s.
>>518354482>imagine if any nigger can blow up a cityThat's basically what already happens now.
>>518352928>>518352969>>518353025>>518353114INDIA HAS ALREADY REDEEMED 8TH GEN FIGHTER, SAAR.
>>518385373They have limited combat and flight experience because nobody has the balls to try it. This happens with every military advancement ever made in the last thousand years. Combat tests are the only way to figure out if it's all worth it, but the US military seems to think so.Besides the f35 is not a dog fighting craft, it's more like a lightly armed reconnaissance fighter and its primary advantage is guiding missiles on target that were fired elsewhere. It is necessary for them to go hard on the experimental stealth tech, and in due course they will solve this issue
>>518379238Shes a good girl. Belly rubs are highly suggested and encouraged
>>518359325You're overdosing on copium, mutt
>>518385896Also; these are first gen photos you have. A new anti corrosion solution already exists and has been in use as of March this year, with retrofit coating applied to in service aircraft still ongoing.The corrosion was microns deep and did not lead to a reduction in stealth capability.
>>518385373You got me curious over Spain's yearly military spending, and oof, sweaty, maybe national sovereignty just isn't for you. Outspent by even Brazil these past 20 years. I get it, you aren't a serious country and so the idea of modern military hardware seems like too big an expense with your pitiful GDP. You should start thinking about which empire you want to be a part of, and start learning that language and aligning yourself culturally so you're prepared for annexation.
>>518386898>country with 4 times the population has higher military spendingweird cope, but it isn't even true. i understand the mistake, spain nearly doubled its military spending this year and you have outdated data.and if i have to choose, i would side with china every time over children murders jew golems.
>>518384888You're acting like a Block I is the same as a Block IV, or that a totally new airframe is required to massively increase capabilities. It's been a while now since external, cosmetic features were changing a lot as technology advanced. Everything now is internal, or invisible. Better radars. better electronic warfare suites, better guidance software on missiles so they can fly farther and preserve more energy for terminal maneuvers, better integration with off-platform sensors. Not to mention all the technology going into better jet engines, letting them fly faster, farther, on less fuel, and generate way more electricity for all the avionics.You're also ignoring all the crazy stuff that has been made public in just the last couple years, if you've been paying attention at all. I'm continually impressed. But I'm old enough to remember 3rd generation still flying, and I also pay a lot of attention to military hardware news.
>>518387668>Spain spends as much as the state of Connecticut; pop. 3.6 Millionwtf, why is Europe so poor?
>>518387911we are not warmongers, so we don't need to maintain 850 bases around the world
>>518387668Yeah, I know, Trump scared you into spending your NATO commitment again, finally. As if one year of doing that makes up for all the lack of spending you've done for decades. Your GDP is still shit so it doesn't matter.And double nigger, I said over the last 20 years. If you spend $1 for 19 years and then $24,000,000,000 for one year, that means you spent less in 20 years than the country that spent $23,000,000,000 for 20 years. You're getting outspent by some fucking third world blacks and browns that don't even need a military, but even they had the brains to think that it might be good in a theoretical sort of way to maybe sorta do something to ensure their sovereignty in case the llamas from Peru decide to invade.
>>518388712and what do you do with the trillion you spend on "defense"? help israel murder children and make snuff films of bombing a village gathering so that your president can share it on twitter?i am happy with what we are, thank you. i am specifically very happy that we are not like you.
>>518353114>2 engines with afterburner have more thrustwow chinkgolia wins again
>>518385877China shills conveniently ignoring this post
>>518381561They are a cargo cult military. They would still fuck India and Russia up though.
>>518365545>pooeater doesn't understand limitations on propulsion technology and why the US can fly a jet with a single engine when China needs two. You can't just scale the engine up to make up for a deficit in thrust
>>518352928Bruh you gooks can’t even drive right so I can’t even imagine how it would look when doing air drills when the camera is off plus you gooks can’t even take Taiwan you should just kill yourself now and save them the trouble
>>518388901As a sovereign nation it's up to us what we decide to do with our military. I'll vote against bombing countries for Israel any chance I get, but the cost of the F-35 is a drop in the bucket to me. It's not to you, and that's okay. But don't pretend like you're taking some great intelligent position here on military spending when you don't even have the choice to spend real money on modern hardware. To an American the F-35 is nothing. We spend a lot more on a lot of other things, and we're buying F-35s so fast we don't even care when we lose one in a mishap. The new ones rolling off the assembly line now are better anyway. Our black budget is four times your current year military spending and that's after you doubled your spending to meet your minimal NATO commitments which you've been neglecting. You're not a real country. You have no sovereignty. Other better countries allow you to pretend.
>>518388099>We're not warmongers You're vassals enjoying apertivos within our protective umbrella. You're just as culpable for any questionable morality because of your privileged status
>>518352928it's barely 5th gen chang
>>518352928flying comes natural for certain bugs
>>518352928lol. Look into what the US govt got in terms of tech once they let the "aliens" do things to their cattle, I mean citizens. Actual research disclosure and the real documents Steven Greer, the demon channeling charlatan/useful idiot, has on his website.
>>518381561Their leaders aren't retarded. They know China killed themselves with the one child policy and their inferior cultural values and the retarded European kike socialism they embraced for decades. But now they're stuck, wallowing in it, and they don't want to lose power individually, so they're doing what all good 3rd world autocrats do: pretend that they're strong so their retarded people don't rise up and overthrow them. It's all just fake and gay propaganda for domestic consumption, and hoping they can fool the actual retards all around them in Asia and intimidate them into being under Chinese influence.
>>518353114The problem with the American EMALS isn't that it doesn't work, rather it's that the reliability is below requirement. DOT&E wrote about it in their reports
>>518353582Thank you. It's amazing what the demons will give you materially if you give your nation and its cattle over to them. However, not sure it works out so well in the long term...
>>518362011The US was quick to show off the B-21 to the public
>>518357263Not to mention the Secret Space Program that Gary McKinnon found before they locked him out.
>>518359325Ask commercial pilots if they see more advanced tech out there from time to time. If they are honest, they will tell you.
>>518360645>assembled in chinatop kek
>>518363978When you factor in that "psychological" directly encompasses "interdimensionality", you are actually getting close to the truth.
>>518364885The Houthis are using "Barq", which are Iranian-modified Kub systems (1960s era tech)
>>518365633May we see it? No?When Will Roper in 2021 claimed that a "flight demonstrator" had flown, he likely meant an X-plane, not a design intended for production
>>518353582Whoever made this is a 0 brain.>Rocket enginesWhere the fuck do you keep the fuel?Or is it quantum stored lol?>aft vectored exhaustThe exhaust isnt in the rocket engines, is it exhaust foryour asshole?>Mercury vortex fieldOh so now UFOs suddenly dont use moscovium?What a load of shit, probably typed up by a glowie.
>>518390836See: >>518362233If something is obvious enough to the midwits, like the fact that the B-2 is kinda getting old and we don't have that many of them, then Congress will basically insist on disclosure so they can pretend like they're doing something. So, turns out we have another stealth bomber, hooray. It looks similar to the old one, and we're buying a lot more of them this time, and they won't need as much maintenance. Voters are satisfied.Meanwhile Lockheed Martin gave hints on a hypersonic strategic bomber, which then all got deleted from the internet after Russia announced their "hypersonic" air-launched ballistic missile, and all the mainstream media started Googling if the US had anything with that buzzword attached to it. The voters haven't really made a fuss yet about the B-1 getting old, it's our least famous bomber after all, so there's not much in the way of people asking if there's a replacement yet. The Pentagon told everyone that the B-21 was replacing the B-52 and the B-2, and that's enough disclosure for today.>>518391249Before it was announced, it was actually photographed by a commercial satellite over Area 51. Accidental leak or not, we have seen it.The X-planes were flying in 2014 or before.
The more interesting question is how China can afford to develop and build all this stuff with a military budget that is 1/3 of the US' military budget
>>518391697How do you know what was photographed is a production design and not just some random X-plane being tested?>The X-planes were flying in 2014 or before.Yes, in terms of aerodynamics the F-47 seems to be partially based on the X-36, which flew as far back as 1997. However, it wouldn't be surprising if more X-planes were built since then to refine the design
>>518381561>tailless>lambda wing with all-moving wingtips>diverterless bumpless inlets possibly using boundary layer suction>giant nose likely housing giant radarLooks quite advanced to me
>>518364928How much evidence is there that Israeli F-35s, or indeed manned Israeli planes of any time, went into heavily defended airspace in Iran? To me it seemed the Israelis relied heavily on drones and standoff weapons such as the ROCKS, Delilah and Spice-1000 to attack heavily defended locations
>>518391361There are real black triangles, but this is definitely glowie psyop shit. The real triangles are several different things, and they're all fairly conventional.>>518391910It's easy if they just have to look the part, not actually do anything.>>518392119It wouldn't be production, but it also wouldn't be an X-plane. The X-planes that led to NGAD had turned into actual prototypes by 2019, meaning representative of a whole design meeting all the requirements in one aircraft, not individual technologies being demonstrated in isolation as part of some generic airframe. Since we're all just talking out our ass and don't know the actual requirements given by the Pentagon for what a "next generation" fighter entails, we don't actually know what was needed to be demonstrated in those prototypes. We just know that at least Boeing, if not Lockheed Martin too, had met the Pentagon's requirements by 2019, and were basically ready to go into initial rate production within a couple years on their respective designs. Northrop Grumman dropped out of that program by then, to focus on F/A-XX, which Boeing is also in the running for. Lockheed withdrew from F/A-XX to focus on NGAD, so now they're missing out on 6th gen except for the drone wingmen.But, Lockheed has their hypersonic strategic bomber and reconnaissance aircraft, so they're not out of the high tech game completely.
>>518393206>The X-planes that led to NGAD had turned into actual prototypes by 2019, meaning representative of a whole design meeting all the requirements in one aircraft, not individual technologies being demonstrated in isolation as part of some generic airframe.How do you know?>We just know that at least Boeing, if not Lockheed Martin too, had met the Pentagon's requirements by 2019How do we know this, and how do we know "meeting requirements" means having a flying prototype of a production aircraft?>and were basically ready to go into initial rate production within a couple years on their respective designsThen why does the USAF say the F-47 will fly in 2028?
>>518393486>How do you know?That's what the reporting said at the time. Were they lying? Maybe. But there was also sightings of weird stuff at the time, indicative of a mature program.>Then why does the USAF say the F-47 will fly in 2028?Auto-pen shut the project down so its Chinese handlers could work on catching up. Trump got back in office so things are spinning back up where they left off. We'd be at initial rate production already if the auto-pen didn't steal the election.
>>518393943>That's what the reporting said at the time.What reporting?>The reason F-47 won't fly until 2028 is because Biden sabotaged the programOkay
>>518393943> Auto-pen shut the project down so its Chinese handlers could work on catching upLmao. Brilliantly put. 10% for the big guy
>>518394093Man, I've been following this story for ten fucking years, in a lifetime obsession with military aviation. There's been lots of reporting throughout all of it. If you're asking me for a specific report from a specific publication, it's not gonna happen. But if you start looking up articles you'll probably find a lot.
>>518380391>No this isn't just copeLmao
>>518394504So, no reports?I can find Will Roper's statement from 2021 and nothing else
>>518352969herro fo-chan anoneemas yoosa! we, i mean dey, haf two diffewent frying tings!wow, china numba wan! i so jearous of big chinee peenis.
>>518352928Because they are bored.
>>518352928>Stealth fighter>Caught on cameraFound your problem, retard.
>>518352928I genuinely winder how much money China wastes for shilling on the internet. It must be a fuckton.
>>518395423They have more poor people than any other country on Earth except India, and that's only because there are more Indians in the world. Look at what Indians will say online for free. Chinese don't need to spend much on their shills.
>>518395691> something blah blah blah india, shilling, free etc ...Says the guy with 25 posts
it's so fucking pretty
>>518354728They do, I just flew on it coming back to America a few weeks ago. It’s the C919, a narrow body that feels the exact same as flying in a 737. I had no complaints other than that the attendant had to continuously wipe down the carry-on luggage holders due to condensation gathering from air conditioning. Also you couldn’t choose the direction of the air nozzle, only whether it was open or closed, and there was no inbuilt screen on the seats. But the seats themselves were wider than any domestic economy flights in my experience. It was nice, all things considered. I spent some of the flight reading about spies that went to jail selling secrets to the Chinese for the plane, so I wasn’t surprised.
>>518396020You need have quality composite materials to build stealth aircraft, that thing can never be stealth
>>518395691> They have more poor people than any other country on Earth except India, and that's only because there are more Indians in the world. You lost me at “people” lmao
>>518362108A hurt dog hollers lol
>>518365691It’s funny that the only person of remote knowledge effortposting in this topic to try and explain the situation is being dogpiled by shitskins who only make and consume state propaganda. What the fuck happened to this board hahahaha
>>518384888>we bombed the middle east because of gas pricesStill trying to push this 25 year old jewish lie?
>>518369779Why are you being a massive faggot when the other guy is actually being informative for you? Are you more interested in discussing reality or sucking propaganda dick?
>>518352928The secret was always AI doing heavy lifting. The navy was using AI on ships back in the 90s
>>518398195>Muh Amerimutt Wunderwaffen!
>>518396855Checked. That’s nu/pol/ in a nutshell. Thankfully we won and old pol broke the containment and has taken over everything now…
They got money.
>>518352928It's just a jet, dude... internal combustion turbine engines, wings, computer stabilization, marginally better stealth. Nothing groundbreaking, just more of the same.
>chink thread
Reminder that you fags were convinced that the Cybertruck (most retarded meme name ever, for retarded goyim) was futuristic when it's just a fucking rolling cellphone with literally thousands of cellphone battery cells in it. Utterly embarrassing caveman tech with styling straight out of Ghana.
>>518400826No one thought that was futuristic here except Elon Musk. Some lefties thought it would make for a good virtue signal to own, though, but then they started firebombing each other and now some righties are virtue signalling with it.I think Elon Musk still thinks it's really cool, though, despite everything.I saw one once. I had a little chuckle and kept walking.
>>518389100lmao, retard
