I fucking hate midwits with strong opinions on matters and when quizzed, reveals they know absolutely nothing about said matters. We need to restrict voting to a select few citizen who can pass critical thinking and knowledge tests. Knowledge on economics is a must of course.Fortunately, this prevents niggers and the remaining 80% of ethnic majorities from voting.Thoughts?Also, those unable to understand sound fiscal policies shouldnt just be disenfranchised, they should be shot.
>>518354244>Fortunately, this prevents niggers and the remaining 80% of ethnic majorities from voting.>Thoughts?Another voting matters subversive thread.If the government went away entirely, what would be missed?
the point of voting is not to ensure good governance it's to ensure that people get the governance that they want.the fact that you don't understand this, or why this matters, or how your suggestion utterly defeats the purpose of having elections at all, reveals you as a midwit with strong opinions on a matter you know absolutely nothing about.the irony
>>518354356>If the government went away entirely, what would be missed?I for one enjoy not having lead in gasoline, or my food full of cancer causing chemicals. I also enjoy functional roads and railways. I like clean rivers and nature, and enjoy companies not just dumping their waste wherever.
>>518354244dang figured the left house would have made it
>>518354630Why do u hate freedom?
>>518354630>I for one enjoy not having lead in gasoline, or my food full of cancer causing chemicals. I also enjoy functional roads and railways. I like clean rivers and nature, and enjoy companies not just dumping their waste wherever.Without parasitic politicians this could never happen right.
>>518354593>>518354702Why do you like jews controlling the media and thus the people and thus entire governments leading to jeetings of all our fucking nations?
>>518354752shut up midwit, you know nothing about this topic.
>>518354244>vooting>call other midwitsYou fit in retard
>>518354244Since you're apparently too stupid to understand why that would eliminate you from the voting pool we should definitely do that.
>>518354593>the point of voting is not to ensure good governance it's to ensure that people get the governance that they want.This is obsolete when a government can promise things that they then don't deliver on.See every elected government in the west in the last several decades.Picrel.>Campaigned on entirely stoping immigration.>Gets elected then does a 180.
>>518354702I am clearly a dirty gommie>>518354742Yes, companies will NEVER self regulate. That is a FACT.
>>518354821Precisely my point, you cant even maintain your cabinet without it falling apart in 14 hours. My idea removes vooooting entirely and gives it to the technocrats.>>518354799enjoy your jeets
>>518354630Is there no other way to prevent this? You could, for example, incentivize those who want to poison and litter to commit suicide. Not with one single measure, but as a society, nudging in every aspect. Railways are an outdated means of transportation. There are autonomous trucks now. Food control could also become some web of self-punishment.
>>518354901Thats the thing, if I cant pass a simple test then I dont deserve to vote. Why are you so obsessed with retards voting?
>>518354918>This is obsolete when a government can promise things that they then don't deliver on.not really. vote for liars, get lies.
>>518355005That means voting itself is flawed if everyone keeps making bad decisions and keeps on vooooooooting for nigger lovers. Youre fucking retarded if you dont understand this. Your people are goyslaves. Why let them vote? If you yourself are a goyslave, why fucking vote and doom your kin?
>>518354958>Thats the thing, if I cant pass a simple test then I dont deserve to vote. Why are you so obsessed with retards voting?I'm more obsessed with the options and getting what is voted for.The options suck.The good crumbs offered suddenly can't be delivered because of the previous government, the courts, no money or whatever.There's no consequences for politicians lying. It's just accepted.So retards voting is completely irrelevant, but it's the low hanging fruit in the blame the victim subversion.
>>518354244>We need to restrict voting to a select few citizen who can pass critical thinking and knowledge tests. Knowledge on economics is a must of course.Why do you retard always suggest things that have already been litigated in US history? You claim to be well-read and high IQ, and then go on to prove that you too have a nigger IQ.It's simple. If you're forced to pay taxes, and then you must have representation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test
>>518355096>I'm more obsessed with the options and getting what is voted for.Youre a fucking idiot. Stop dodging. Why let retards vote?>The options suck.>The good crumbs offered suddenly can't be delivered because of the previous government, the courts, no money or whatever.Stop dodging>There's no consequences for politicians lying. It's just accepted.Stop moving the goalposts>So retards voting is completely irrelevant, but it's the low hanging fruit in the blame the victim subversion.Literally not my point. Stop strawmanning
>>518355119Im fucking telling you the system is flawed>huuurrr let me show you the system>see thats how it worksFucking imbecile
>>518355005>>This is obsolete when a government can promise things that they then don't deliver on.>not really. vote for liars, get lies.Which is every politician, every party.What a retarded subversive loser you are anon.
>>518354933if your entire political ideology is based around rigging elections to get the outcomes you want, why not just skip the bullshit and do away with the elections entirely and just go full autocrat?you stupid fucking midwit. intellectually you know that concentrated and unaccountable power is bad, which is why you insist on a veneer of electoralism, but you're too fucking stupid to understand how electoralism works to prevent concentration of power and force accountability.should i explain it to you?maybe. but i'm not going to bother because you're a fucking idiot who won't benefit from the explanation.
>>518354940sounds utopian and requires a populace of hyper-vigilant autists who act rationally 100% of the time.Here's a fact: most people are extremely lazy, they simply buy the cheaper product no matter what. For this reason "voting with your wallet" doesn't work. So how could a societal level version of that idea ever work?
>>518354244anything that is restricted to only iqs above 110 would be nothing but white people
>>518355053>That means voting itself is flawed if everyone keeps making bad decisionsshut up midwit>>518355180start your own party then dumbfuck. oh wait you'd lose like a bitch because everyone fucking hates you.cry more faggot
>>518355190>letting technocrats alone have power is rigging electionsYeah. Rigging it for success. I cant explain genius to an idiot unfortunately. Go huff some glue. Try not to get an aneurysm seething.
>>518355223110 is too low. It needs to be 130 and above. And they must pass a test to show they understand fiscal matters for the state.
>>518355230SEETHING TRANNY KEK
>>518354244I've been posting on pol for weeks about how it's going to become 100% necessary to start giving out tests before being allowed to do pretty much anything. Or maybe a singular IQ test.
>>518355283And yet look at this thread. Someone there are niggers against it. Ridiculous. Why are niggers such fucking niggers? Do they have 0 fucking shame?
>>518354919>Yes, companies will NEVER self regulate. That is a FACT.That's why you'd regulate them yourself, with all the weapons you'll be able to get without any state stopping you.
>>518354244Many an institution built on centuries of educated, civic minded citizens has been destroyed in years by midwits.This comes into play in accelerationism, that destruction has been so devastating that it would now be easier to rebuild from near scratch.
>>518355138>>I'm more obsessed with the options and getting what is voted for.>Youre a fucking idiot. Stop dodging. Why let retards vote?This is the problem on the back end you retard.What good is voting when:>Vote left; Get illegal immigrants.>Vote right; Get legal immigrants.Which is the same fucking thing.So removing retards like you from voting changes nothing, as only geniuses voting will END UP IN THE SAME SCENARIO because there are no legitimate options.
Just put a tax threshold on voting. You need $70K taxable income/year to be allowed to vote.It's fundamentally about how to spend taxes, let the people who pay them decide.
>>518355355>>518355355>>Which is the same fucking thing.>So removing retards like you from voting changes nothing, as only geniuses voting will END UP IN THE SAME SCENARIO because there are no legitimate options.Kek retard. >meme flagahh youre a jeet. makes sense.
>>518354593My mom would play this game when I was a kid. When I asked for something I wanted she'd make me think if it was a want or a need. Turns out most of the crap I wanted was because my meat brain was overriding my ghost who knows better. Look around on the Internet. People can't even decide what they want in a dating partner or dinner. Most only get info from corporate sources. In essence, most don't deserve to vote.
>>518355325Listen you shitskin. Technology doomed mankind, internet was the great filter. Does technology made people smarter or they have to rely on a GPS to come back home ?Fuck off retard
>>518355336this is a fairytale. The companies will hire PMCs to protect their assets etc. Such examples can be found in places where there is a weak or no functional government like somalia and other african states.
>>518355415Some rich people are also fucking imbecilic moronic buffoons cuz they lost the genetic lottery and even though they got papa's cushy job at his company, hes still a fucking bozo. IQ test and paper test on economics.
>>518355457Why are you moving the goalpost again nigger? Fuck off.
All you niggers working together and the best fucking argument you can conjure is >muh feelingsgrim fucking stuff.
>>518355487>this is a fairytaleWrong. Without state backing, PMCs fold like a house of cards.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Wars
>>518355450nonresponsive.>>518355242>Yeah. Rigging it for successif concentrating power in the hands of unaccountable technocrats is so good why not just do away with elections all together and appoint a benevolent philosopher-king to make all our decisions for us?you fucking midwit.
>>518355593>if concentrating power in the hands of unaccountable technocrats is so good why not just do away with elections all together and appoint a benevolent philosopher-king to make all our decisions for us?>huurrr if i cant vooote means no one else can vooteAnon I... I dont understand how to explain it so that an abbo such as yourself can understand. But picture this. I can break one stick with my bare hands. bundle them into a faggot, it becomes harder to break. get it? the sum is greater than the whole. do you understand?
>>518355426>Kek retard.>>meme flag>ahh youre a jeet. makes sense.You have nothing. That's why you have to go after the flag and you can't go after the front end problems of voting. The flag is meaningless when there's this thing called a VPN, which you know as you are using one subversive anon.
>>518355517>the goalpostThere is no goal here except a retarded shitskin giving his retarded shitskin opinion thinking it matter in this shitskin planet.The less faillible system existed for more than one millenars we don't need your technofaggots to rule over us.Musk want to chip your brain to increase cognitive capacities.What kind of souless goy cattle would want leaders like this ?
>>518355664actually, i understand that better than you do. refer to this, which i have already told you:"intellectually you know that concentrated and unaccountable power is bad, which is why you insist on a veneer of electoralism, but you're too fucking stupid to understand how electoralism works to prevent concentration of power and force accountability."stupid fucking midwit.
>>518355498Yes, and some people in mensa are commie retards. Removing retards entirely will never happen. But get rid of the poors and you get rid of enough of the tards.
>>518355593>benevolent philosopher-kingAccording to Aristotle, this is the ideal. Next best thing is an aristocracy (aristos = best).Biggest issue is the unpredictability of how intelligent/benevolent their offspring would be.When AI tech gets to an appropriate level (none of this LLM bullshit), then an AI dictator would be the preferable solution.
>>518354244>We need to restrict voting to a select few citizen who can pass critical thinking and knowledge tests. Knowledge on economics is a must of course.You are the midwit. The person running or designing the test would have to be knowledgeable himself and share the country's values, and there's no reason the wisest people in a country would also be in power and have society's values. And if that's the case, why not run the country directly?I agree that some restrictions would improve the outcomes of elections, but it needs to be an imperfect but fixed and consistent thing. For example, only white people with an income or property.
>>518354244>what's this, goy? You don't understand jewish money magic? BLAM BLAM BLAM>>518354593Kek, this.
>>518355740>When AI tech gets to an appropriate level (none of this LLM bullshit), then an AI dictator would be the preferable solution.W H YWHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THE POINT OF GOVERNMENT IS? TO SIT ON A THRONE AND RULE YOU LIKE A GOD?i want government to get the FUCK out of my life. i don't care if the AI god says that eating the bugs and taking mecha-dildos up the ass 3 times a day is good for gut health, it's MY FUCKING DECISION.i don't care if the AI makes better decisions. they're MY decisions. i am allowed to make mistakes if i fucking want to. i am allowed to live a suboptimal life.take your perfect government and FUCK OFF.this is the fundamental misunderstanding that you fucking midwits have about government. i'm not even a fucking libertarian, but jesus fucking christ. the point of government is not for it to do what is best, the point is that it's MY FUCKING GOVERNMENT and it should do WHAT I FUCKING WANT. even if that's not the best possible decision, it's MY decision.you fucking servile bootlicking god damn fucking slaves.
Democracy does not work. The average person is an idiot coasting on the inertia established and maintained by better people who number in the few.
>>518354244>"This is like somebody's memory of a town, and the memory is fading. It's like there was never anything here but jungle."If voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it.
>>518355677>You have nothing.Hard to respond when someone hands you literal shit>aaahhh all options bad, its not the people's faultExcept thats not true. There are good options and they compound. But you dont see it that way because youre all unwilling to compromise. Its why macron's cabinet is non stop collapsing.>>518355700kek seething. i'll wait. form an argument. go on.also, do you understand what technocracy means? probably not. france is doomed.>>518355716I mean, disenfranchising the poor is good and all but what if they have geniuses? cant do that. people rise to the top from nothing all the time.>>518355781Whoever said anything about a person? We already have such a thing as a jury duty. The idea is the entire assembly of technocrats coming together to form a basic test and anyone who passes it can thus vote. if they make it too hard, less people pass but thats ok. That will force people who want to dictate the future of the nation to study basic economics.
>>518355857SEETHING TRANNY DOESNT HAVE AN ARGUMENT BESIDE MUH FEELINGS
>>518355517>Why are you moving the goalpost again nigger? Fuck off.Anon you're a subversive script reading retard who nobody takes seriously.Here's the options for voting.>Get stabbed>Get shot>Get drowned>Get blown up>Get set on fire^Huh Duh I'm anon aamvVPLi I know how to fix this. Let's stop retards like me aamvVPLi from voting as there's nothing wrong with the options at all.
>>518355935shut up midwit
>>518355951>>518355953SEETHING GOYSLAVESGO ONKEEP ON VOOOOOOOOOOTING YOUR NATION INTO OBLIVION AS KIKES COMMANDCHRIST IS KINGYOURE ALL GOYNIGGERSGOD FORGIVE YOU ALL
>>518355998>"i want to rig elections so that my side always wins"that's not really the point of having elections...>"NO YOU'RE JUST TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND!!!"i think you are the stupid one.
>>518355951>completely failing to understand current politician's policies are made to pander and thus always suckkek. /pol/ never fails to make me smile. jesters you lot. fucking jeets.
>>518356057AHAHAHAHAHA SO YOU READ ALL OF WHAT I TYPED AND UNDERSTOOD ABSOLUTE NOTHING AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>518355869I don't care I lived long enough to despise technology. I've seen how it made people dumb, lazy, arrogant and depraved.How it made old people suffering over 80 years old when they wanted to go, how it doomed generations to pay for this madness.How every sane things became "backward" in popular opinion.Ted was right, burn everything and rebuild on it or suffer in eternal tech slavery.All the rest is a pointless waste of saliva.
>>518355857basedthese mediocre idiots will never understand. they have very simple minds and don't realize a government doesn't have to dictate everything about people's lives, only the bare minimum that we need a government for (such as, dont kill others etc), and for everything else, the choices everyone makes for themselves are the closest to what they need or want.>>518355869really? you can't tell that my argument about a person also applies to a jury duty, group of technocrats, or any kind of group of people?
>>518356091When did I mention technology? quote it.
>>518355857>i want government to get the FUCK out of my lifeI would love that too, but for that to happen you'd need to cull around 90-95% of the population on the wrong side of the IQ bell curve.They're the ones completely dependent on the state existing and are unable to even imagine a life without it.I was really hoping the clot shot would finish them off, but goddamn was I wrong.Maybe somewhere down the line it will eventually happen, but I wouldn't hold my breath.>MY FUCKING GOVERNMENT and it should do WHAT I FUCKING WANTThis will never happen. The state is a parasitic entity completely separate from the people, and it only serves its own interests (Protip: (You) don't constitute the state).The only realistic solution is to completely cut out the cancerous human element, which is the source of much grief, corruption and overall evil of state actions.I also didn't mean that the AI should dictate everything, it was just a figure of speech. I meant it being kind of like a majordomo.
>>518356088you're just like the idiots who say "wow muh oinkrainians are so brave and stunning! fighting the enemy like that!" while NATO is using them and Zelensky is hunting them down and enslaving themthis is because you are failing to understand the simplest thing about politics, which is that people have individual lives with individual goals
>>518356097No your idea is flawed. What values? What value is there in poor governance leading to destitute streets and homelessness? What value is there in trannies? Only white people voting would not eliminate the greatest source of trouble for democratic government, stupid fucking niggers voting.
>>518355869>>aaahhh all options bad, its not the people's fault>Except thats not true. There are good options and they compoundWhere's the options that will put white people first and kick every non white person out, with a clearly defined plan to do this. Tell me which political party this is in every western country anon.When you can't do this you can admit you're full of shit.
>>518356178Ahhh so you agree with me in theory then. Stupid people shouldn't vote. We are now haggling about the level of stupidity required to restrict vooooooooting.
>>518356191>What value is there in trannies?Let's say your idea is applied, how do you make sure the jury duty or whatever technocrat group is not a bunch of trannies? And the knowledge test to participate in elections is "do you think trans people are heckin valid?" now what?
>>518356226>Where's the options that will put white people first and kick every non white person out, with a clearly defined plan to do this.White people arent the majority so th... actually, why bother replying to a jeet LOL SEETHE MORE
>>518356265The idea is simple. You get strong willed high IQ people who are the tippy top of their fields. Academics. Intellectuals. Clergymen. Sit them down and make them form a consensus. And said test? No fucking mention of LE HECKING TRANNIES in my fucking post. Only economics. Why? Because the governments main job is to fucking ensure the fucking state treasury is used properly and taxes are put to good fucking use you fucking nigger. Government has 0 fucking role in religion or TRANNISM or whatever the fuck. Fucking nigger. You dont deserve your vote.
>>518354593The point of democracy is to empower an intelligent motivated patriotic populace to choose their own destiny.Modern democracies have none of those things. Aristotle said it best. You can't have democracy without philia.
>>518355119This example of "everything that's good for America has previously been litigated" is why the system must collapse and redone from scratch.
>>518356243I agree that stupid people shouldn't vote. I wish they never did. I wish all countries were ruled by a dictator that shared my views on everything, or, even better, knew more than me, had the perfect views, and disagreed with me only when I'm missing something he knows.However there's no way to make sure of that. The current approximation we have is elections, because for how fucking stupid most people are, they know when something's not working because they are starving, and can change the government then. For example, China has a good government now, but if they had elections they could've replaced Mao Zedong sooner. For example, Argentina had a deep rooted socialist elite, and they just replaced them for a libertarian because they live in misery.This still has a bunch of inefficiencies of course. I hate it too. But an absolute ruler is even worse, and muh "knowledge test", "philosopher king" etc is just being naive. The best approximation is democracy but with objective, fixed and simple rules that are imperfect but consistently improve election outcomes, such as only white people or only white men vote, no one who gets money from the government OBVIOUSLY, no immigrants etc.
>>518356226>Because my red party vs blue party>Are shit>And because my red vs blue super empire>Dictates some sort of the same system to everybody else>Thus...>THERE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE VOTES AND SHIT!!!!Are you a nigger, anon?At best it's a question of sovereignty.The idea of people voting is the idea of allowing some (lol some) sovereignty to the individual citizen.If that sovereignty is eclipsed by the sovereignty of the gay jewish empire eating our sovereignty that's hardly a problem with voting.The current US system would be greatly improved simply by allowing the two most voted people to be elected and hold office on most elections (For the Houses, Senates and Governorships or whatever it is).
>>518356357You have a Singapore flag.Why are you complaining from Singapore?Isn't Singapore super based (for you Sing Chinks) and all?
>>518356267>>Where's the options that will put white people first and kick every non white person out, with a clearly defined plan to do this.>White people arent the majority so th... actually, why bother replying to a jeet LOL>SEETHE MORESubversives should really have to pass an IQ test to post subversive ideologies. You're proof of that retarded sub 80 IQ anon. But thanks for being dumb, it will help wake up the normies.
>>518355869>I mean, disenfranchising the poor is good and all but what if they have geniuses? cant do that. people rise to the top from nothing all the time.Work harder, get the vote. The only poor geniuses are poor by choice.Income is already an intelligence test. Just use that.
>>518356459I never said anything about dictatorships. I never once removed democracy. Its just a more restricted democracy. Mao would have been voted out and executed in a heart beat with my system. >>518356543Im bored.>>518356559AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA SEEEETHING JEET AAAAAAAAHAHAHAH FORM AN ARGUMENT COME ON AAAHAHAHAHAHAHA CANT PASS A TEST CAN YOU? AAAHAHAHAHAHA>>518356560Fair point. What about the nepo babies?
>>518356357Let's say this is applied, how do you make sure those tippy top of their fields are not typical redditors who are good at following teachers and memorizing?>Only economics.How do you make sure the economic test isn't "is capitalism destroying people and the planet?" and they want to abolish private property and go back to commie famines?>Government has 0 fucking role in religion or TRANNISM or whatever the fuckThat's up to the government or your "high IQ commitee" to decide. Again, what if they are trannies?
>>518356613>I never said anything about dictatorships. I never once removed democracy. Its just a more restricted democracy. Mao would have been voted out and executed in a heart beat with my system.It's fundamentally a dictatorship by proxy if a dictator chooses who votes.I don't think you have the mental acuity to separate the fundamentals from the noise.
>>518356459>However there's no way to make sure of that. The current approximation we have is elections, because for how fucking stupid most people are, they know when something's not workingThat's the most retarded shit I've read anon.Come on, you're a Spaniard, you can do better.One person ruling is much better than many people "rulling" (as in the majority or nearly so) simply because the later is just a vague feeling of ruling (or deciding or whatever) as most people clearly will never have what it takes to simply chose. Some aussie said that the curent democratic systems are veered in order to give the impression that people have the govs that they chose, what uncle Ted called the decision-making process.It's just to give us the feel we have a say. And it's design in order for the very people at the helm to not really have a say.
>>518354244Your language displays signs of intelligence but also political impotence. The idea of a new elite that will reign without any democratic influence will soon be true for many developed nations but even then you can’t ignore the midwits entirely. Don’t ask yourself why there are so many retarded and entitled people, ask yourself how you can control them.
>>518356649>Let's say this is applied, how do you make sure those tippy top of their fields are not typical redditors who are good at following teachers and memorizing?IQ test generally weeds them out. Only the absolute best crammers could get in then but obviously their numbers would be so thinned that it wouldnt matter. That and because LE HECKING TRANNIES are not part of the deal, their impact is irrelevant.>How do you make sure the economic test isn't "is capitalism destroying people and the planet?" and they want to abolish private property and go back to commie famines?Because with smart people, they immediately understand. But to ensure that they know, add a economic history subject why not.>That's up to the government or your "high IQ commitee" to decide. Again, what if they are trannies?You really think impressionable trannies are technocrats?
>>518356684Most people are stupid but when they have nothing to eat, they know something's wrong. So a democracy can prevent the worst case scenario. Of course I'm not denying it's incredibly inefficient, and like you say, I live every day with the problems it creates kek, but fortunately I have a comfy remote job and I am honkpilled as to society's problems
>>518356673>It's fundamentally a dictatorship by proxy if a dictator chooses who votes.A dictator in the form of a mass of technocrats is not a dictatorship at all but a technocracy.>I don't think you have the mental acuity to separate the fundamentals from the noise.There we go. So we agree in theory and are back to haggling yes?
>>518356684>Some aussie said that the curent democratic systems are veered in order to give the impression that people have the govs that they chose, what uncle Ted called the decision-making process.>It's just to give us the feel we have a say. And it's design in order for the very people at the helm to not really have a say.Yes but you can't deny that in principle, people have the last word with democracy. Of course they are still extremely gullible and the system is corrupt, I'm not denying that.
>>518356738>ask yourself how you can control them.Bread and circus as in most of all living and written memory>Your language displays signs of intelligenceSomething a retarded nigger would say. You dont deserve to vote
>>518356763>IQ test generally weeds them out.Someone has to make the IQ test and then he would de facto rule the country then.
>>518356772>but fortunately I have a comfy remote job and I am honkpilled as to society's problemsI too have a cushy job. But every patriot's duty is to better his nation.
>>518356613> Fair point. What about the nepo babies?Intelligence is hereditary, and most of the dumb nepo babies fucks up and lose their money. It's not a problem. Some tards will slip through regardless, but as long as they're tax payers they should be allowed to vote.
>>518356878Thats not how IQ test works.
>>518354593>the point of voting is to ensure that people get the governance that they want.lol. full democracy is fucking evil. Democratic republic with restricted voting or bust.>>518354244>Also, those unable to understand sound fiscal policieswho defines what is a sound fiscal policy? fuck experts.America got it right the first time by restricting voting to white land owners. Someone needs to do a deep analyst on how they managed to fuck that one up.
>>518356459>This still has a bunch of inefficiencies of course. I hate it too. But an absolute ruler is even worse, and muh "knowledge test", "philosopher king" etc is just being naive.An absolute ruler is always best if the ruler is anchored on the local people's tradition and looks to his own best interests (which is to placate the people and control the aristocracy in order to remain in power).Everything else is liberal or socialist bullshit. Quite often jewish. Also only an absolute ruler can rule. Although here the term absolute must be dealt with.Absolute here means not constrained by external factors. Meaning that the ruler is not a puppet. The ruler will still have to consider external factors to himself like the wellbeing of the people in order to maintain a functioning system and the well being of the military in order to avoid coups, etc.These are called in political science (or were back in the day) "natural external factors".Which contrast with "unnatural external factors" like jewish infiltration / occupation / supremacy and the influence of foreign powers (which some advocate are natural in the some light degrees) and the capture of the "monarchical" system (as in the rule of one) by other "factions" that would turn the system (like in the UK) into a fake monarchy or a "crowned republic" meaning a country that should have an (absolute) ruler but who has one only as a fiction or as an front for other "factions" to rule behind his image.
>>518356892I dunno man. Sounds precarious. I mean, with jewish tricks, nepo babies can stay afloat long enough to flood the system with retarded nepo babies. But I guess youre right. Maybe im retarded in not thinking this.
>>518356482>Are you a nigger, anon?No but you are. You still believe in voting and democracy.It has failed for citizens for generations but it's still good.Would you build a house on sand anon? You seem to like advocating for stuff that has failed.
>>518356952AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA POST YOUR HAND JEET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA
>>518356901That's just being naive, because an IQ test can be manipulated to favor a demographic (for example, men and women have different strengths), they could even find a subtest where niggers do better, or even just go out of their way to make it a bad IQ test and make sure dumber people are on the committee, or rig it and tell the answers to his friends.
>>518356772>Most people are stupid but when they have nothing to eat, they know something's wrong. So a democracy can prevent the worst case scenario.The empiric observations on the ground tell us that when a democracy gets that rotten the people generally rise up themselves to elect a dicator (absolute ruler / monarch = rule of one) and end democracy.
>>518357005yes but that's very hard because the government has an army and, in the case of socialist governments which tend to be the bad ones, control the means of production tooin venezuela they are trying but can't overthrow the dictator. all they can do is go to his propaganda events for foodwith democracy he would be out, because normies in venezuela have figured out by now that socialism is bad
>>518356986Why are you assuming I want women to vote? And again, it will be a collective that designs and administers the test. Every year. If it gets retarded, thats ok because the people who passed the test get to have a say in how its designed. Obviously this will eventually dumb it down to even niggers can vote but we can always do a hard reset and force only the top 10% of test passers to design the test if the total number of voters exceed a certain threshold.Its doable, don't be such a pessimistic nigger.
>>518356106Don't play dumb you know well there is no clergy in a technocracy. Did you read the Bible ? This can't be applied in a system without care for human's life
>>518357190Ok. Now im curious. Define technocracy.
>>518355857atta boy, you almost sound american
>>518354593The point of voting is to give plebs the illusion of influence.
>>518356811>you can't deny that in principle, people have the last word with democracy.Yeah... in principle. But that is just a charade. Of course "the people" have no last say. The people have no say at all. What the people have is the ability to some how chose who will rule them but they do so on a very limited knowledge of what they are chosing and why. Basically "the people" is never informed enough to make an actual meaningful decision. There is not a chance of a misshappen of History that democracy was burried in Europe (Civilised Society) since the fall of Athens in the Peloponesian War around 400 b.C. (I think).And even a worst sort of democracy pretty much after the Second Carhaginian War in Rome - which would make Roman "democracy" go from 500 b.C. to 200 b.C. roughly. And that Roman "democracy" was always extremely skewed towards an aristocracy, with only the original founders considered as real Romans with full democratic rights and an always increasing franchise towards the ever increasing Plebeians that would rather quickly fill Rome (albeit mostly Latins as the Romans).And then you have a gay sistem from 200 B.C. to about 27 (?) A.D. when the Roman Empire is finally established and all the pretence for a Roman "democracy" is demolished. As I was saying... and I think this is extremely relevant for all anons and pol itself:It's not by chance that "democracy" was completely discarded already in antiquity.Athenian democracy was truly among the best democracies ever but it also failed, and rather quickly... and spectacularly (after be repeatedly humiliated by the aristocratic Spartans and remaining a big power simply because they had invested more in boats and mannaged to rule over all the islands and control the seas... the Athenians decide via lots of demagoguery and betrayal, which was the main stay of the Athenian democratic process... to invade Sicily and they get their asses handed to them):(cont.)
>>518357226A politician or senior official who acts and makes decisions based on technical or economic data without giving priority to human factors.We already live in technocracy if you don't consider shitskin human.
>>518357437>We already live in technocracyKek. Retard. Figures why france is such a shithole today.>A politician or senior official who acts and makes decisions based on technical or economic data without giving priority to human factors.Also this is wrong but im too lazy. Go google it and read it up yourself. Im sure theres a dictionary out there.
>>518356985>AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA POST YOUR HAND JEET AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAPost your nose anon. Then I'll post my hand.
>>518357598AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA SEETHING JEET AAAAAAHAHAHAH CANT READ CANT ARGUE AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP CRAWLING IN EXCREMENT YOU HEATHEN AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>518357578I googled it moron. This is what you don't want to get any system can be viable if it's only composed of Aryan. Shit people create shit countries, simple as.
>>518357704Googled it? So you didnt know what the fuck it was initially?A politician is not a technocrat simply because he reads a bunch of numbers. A doctor is a technocrat in the field of medicine. A politician is a technocrat in the field of garnering vooooootes from people like you. Im going to bed, fucking nigger. Good night and God save you.
>>518357640Shut the fuck up, retard. You have shown that you do not understand the basics of government.
>>518357798jeet
>>518357795Why would I give a fuck about a word when what define a good society is Aryan people ?
>>518357414(cont.)The Athenian Democracy:>Was only for those of Athenian ancestry, eventually accepted those of the countryside of Athica, near Athens and controlled by Athens>Was only for actual men>Actually, it was originally only for men who accepted to join the military and remained this way for most of its History>Was only for actual men above a certain level of property (well for most of its History, at least)>Had education in a sort of Athenian / Attic Nationalism the basis for raising a citizenAnd even this democracy failed as soon as it was confronted with an aristocratic power of the same level. It was univesally ever since considered that democracy was an effeminate system based on fooling the fellow men (demagoguery) in order to rise in the ranks, that the common people would always chose to defend their personal and immediate interests instead of the nation's interests and the long term interests of society; that it was a volatile system with next to no stability.That is was only possible on the backs of a large slave (like) population, which would eventually seek and gain franchise side by side with the original inhabitants (this was very proeminent during the American Civil War in the South).That it tended towards equality instead of distinction and healthy hierarchy.European Civilisation has been ever since built on the back of an elite the carried the State for the common folk. On the basis of a military aristocratic elite who should put its life / status on the line for the well being of the polity (which also in the Middle Ages restricted civil wars to the elite instead of the massive total wars of the Ancient World which allowed generally for society to carry on producing while the retarded elites fought to decide who would be on top.I don't want to write more now. Aristocracy being better than democracy was the basis of Euro Civilisation since 400 b.C. when Athens lost to Sparta.
>>518357113Socialist governments are only around since 1917. It's not really the people that rise up and take over the State.It's actually the people that signal the military leaders they would support a revolt (somehow, probably because soldiers come from the common folk and military leaders read the soldiery and then take action) and then military elites take over.In Venezuela is a bit more complicated not necessarily because it is Socialist but because most military leaders are still aligned with the government / Socialism than with giving their country away to the gay USA.It's also about sovereignty. The USA has been doing a war against sovereignty.If the military's revolution will not allow the military elites to preserve their sovereignty are the military elites really better off by rebelling and then losing their sovereignty or what little sovereignty they have?In Venezuela any military rebellion would probably lead to civil war (among military factions) instead of a somwhat clean transfer of power.And where would sovereignty fall into even if the "good guys" won the civil war? The USA.
>>518357640>AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA SEETHING JEET AAAAAAHAHAHAH CANT READ CANT ARGUE AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA STOP CRAWLING IN EXCREMENT YOU HEATHEN AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAnon your replies are weak. >Posts from Singapore>First ever thread that doesn't get shut down>Can only focus on blaming the victims on the backend>The options aren't a problem but no you can't see the good ones>Mocks white people for being a minority >Resorts to calling everyone a jeet when can't respond to any valid postsHow much do you get paid to post anon?
>>518356911>America got it right the first time by restricting voting to white land owners. Someone needs to do a deep analyst on how they managed to fuck that one up.Don't you know?They expanded too rapidly. In the early days one needed to be middle class and above to have a lot of land in the coastal areas. So, say only 35% of the male white population voted.Then they expanded across Appalachia and every retard could now have a plot of land.So now 80% of the white male population voted.And it was a strech into accepting oh the poor pauperinos, the remaining 20% without a plot of land, because they were white and American too you know?The recently enfranchised almost often are the ones fighting the hardest to expand the franchise.
>>518355951>.webm>someone stole a bike >get your boys and capture the thief>In the morning torture and execute him in public very slowly>soak yourself in blood in the process >becomes Caim because of a fucking bikeAfrica is a cursed place. I ask myself how did they get to this point.
>>518358548>Africa is a cursed place. I ask myself how did they get to this point.Have you read it?http://afmata-tropicalia.blogspot.com/2020/12/trafico-de-escravos-na-bacia-do-congo_21.htmlGive it a try, anon. Unironically. Whenever you have the time.
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>>518357856Incorrect, chink-boy
>>518357113>>518358242Maduro is a drug lord, Venezuela is a giant favela with access to oil and he's a member of the narco-dictators kabbalah Foro de São Paulo (everyone backs everyone with resources, dirty money, intel, guns, political influence etc etc etc).South-America, Central America and Caribe is de facto an union of socialist soviet republics and nobody seems to notice or care enough to talk about it. Only the journalist Olavo de Carvalho exposed this.>>518359208>Have you read it?no, I haven't. I will now. thanks patrício.
>>518354821>>vooting>>call other midwits>You fit in retardIt's anon's first day on the job.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/uid/aamvVPLi/page/2/
>>518360504Anon, I remember Olavo de Carvalho too. I want to say though that nobody cares about those lefties in South and Central America because they are firmly under the control of Washington despite the BRICS meme. Or do you think you guys have develop arsenals capable to make America think twice before invading any of you?Unironically Venezuela has one of the best militaries in Latin America, on a per capita and equipment basis.Spain for instance has such a superior military to all Latin American countries... I had no idea. And Spain is not really top tier in Europe. It's on the top 10 but it's not really top tier.
