Society in Pharaonic system:>King at top, priests and nobles below that; knights, artisans next rung down; craftsmen, bakers; farmersSociety in Feudalism:>King at top, priests and nobles below that; knights, artisans next rung down; craftsmen, bakers; farmersSociety in Capitalism:>CEOs at top, priests and middle management below that; soldiers, artisans next rung down; craftsmen, bakers; farmersSociety in Communism:>Rich government officials at top, priests and oligarchs below that; soldiers, artisans next rung down; craftsmen, bakers; farmersAre you starting to get the picture? The problem isn't hierarchy, in the abstract. There will always be hierarchy. Winners and losers. Humans are at the top of the food chain, and have the ability to comprehend the idea of hierarchy, because we won the evolutionary race. If you don't like it, you might want to get a lobotomy.
so are you saying i should eliminate those above to hve as competitive advantage?
>>519096085hello? anyone home?
>>519096085All hierarchical systems inevitably get ruled by jews. Anarchy is the only solution. There are simply too many traitorous psychopaths and sociopaths.
>>519096180Stop falling for the class struggle divide and conquer pysop and work and fight for a good king and be rewarded for good deeds and hard work.
>>519096085Has any socialist ever thought about how maybe people don't entertain any of their ideas is because they all come off as insufferable condescending shitbags.
>>519096085We don't live in capitalism we live in a mix of regulatory corporate socialism and low level small town boomer bureaucratic red tape.If you want to do anything at the low level (town/city) you are strong armed and fucked over by boomers and local business owners who have imposed a load of bullshit to ingratiate themselves.If you want to do anything big like national product sales you jump through a dozen hoops to get blocked by red tape or at best bring your shit to market and then it's cannibalized by a foreign power at the behest of national politicians.Capitalism doesn't exist as long as the government prints money for their selected winners and puts up arbitrary roadblocks for the deemed winners.
>>519096408Society under Anarchical system:>Smaller groups of strong men with guns in local militias at top (strongest, wealthiest, and most powerful will eventually band together and the former systems of governance and economics will be reestablished), priests and nobles below that; knights, artisans next rung down; craftsmen, bakers; farmers
>>519096546>work and fight for a good kingExcept CEOs are literally completely incapable of being "good kings." A good king cares about more than filling his coffers and the coffers of his nobles. CEOs care ONLY about making money for themselves and shareholders.That's why society is collapsing, because we are ruled by people who do not care about ANYTHING other than making a line go up on a screen in a building on Wall Street. Nothing else matters to these ghouls.
>>519096594Many businesses run independently of the state knowing about them. You should do this when legal options are not allowed.
>>519096085At some point people realized that regardless of where you sit on a societal hierarchy you deserve the freedom warranted by your mind and soul, in doing this we saw a nation come into being and immediately become a superpower, on the backs of those lower in the hierarchyIt doesn't mean that every man is george washington, but that each man has his own aspirations and is driven to succeed, in your fear of those supposedly beneath you, you have damaged this, and in damaging it not only have you forever damaged your wealth and prospects, but made the pedestal of power you stand upon quite wobbly Freedom good, simple as - things will get worse for everyone until the lay man is free again, or you'll accept it like you did the loss of the nobility, and suffer its loss with pain you are too young to understand. like a pit inside you that tells you something once was here and is now gone
>>519096594Naive and childish worldview. Yes, a lot of laws seem stupid to the average person. Yet a lot of the laws were put in place originally because of scam artist. Crooked lawyers. Salesmen using intimidation tactics at your front door. Corporations and chains, with a large bureaucracy of lawyers, accountants, HR, etc. etc. means the average con man can't just destroy their business.In China, you have to literally ask the government for permission to start a business. In America, you can sell things on your front lawn, and you don't have to fill out any paperwork.I just saw a TikTok about some average Joe, getting all anggerry about not being able to sell firewood, because there was too much red tape. That red tape is there because soulless businessmen logged and sold firewood, and didn't treat it properly, and caused huge swaths of forests to be destroyed, due to the transportation of foreign insects in the untreated wood. Something to that effect.Call me a Fed, but Corporations are based, in a way. They're keeping the demons at bay. Yes, their business model lacks character and personality. But how did we get to this point, in the first place? McDonalds setting up franchises in foreign nations is part of how we play the game of cultural competition, without the bombs and war part. Don't like it? You'd better go to Mars or something then.
>>519096408Not if you reject christianity. Then you colonize the jews yourself.
>>519096618No. That won't be permitted any longer. Watchmen are being assigned to make sure humans no longer form governments. You've proven you can't handle it.
>>519096759How's about you suit up and kiss ass a little, then report back and tell us whether your opinion has changed at all. Surely there is one Robin Hood out there in the upper echelons of society. Surely it's more than making a line go up. Perhaps you are being conned into perceiving all those above you as bad.
>>519096921Your freedoms end where mine begin. If you're a rich guy, and want to have a shop with advertisements on the street, but I want a quiet based Korean medieval town with no advertisements, how are we going to reach an agreement?
>>519096085No matter how many times you try explaining it to marxists, they will never believe that CEOs are not the owners of corporations. If you suggest companies selling shares to their employees, or even giving shares to their employees, they'll bring up that black single moms cannot handle the risk of the stock market. They'll say that shares in a company mean absolutely nothing. They'll continue believing that CEOs are owners of corporations.
>>519096989>spacing> some average Joe, getting all anggerry about not being able to sell firewood, because there was too much red tape. That red tape is there because soulless businessmen logged and sold firewood, and didn't treat it properlyExactly what's wrong with everything. I am not a fucking corporation. Kill yourself.
>>519097399Tell me the streets aren't crawling with scam artists who will screw anyone and everyone out of their money if given the chance, and laws and red tape help to reduce that.
>>519096085Where do onlyfans whores place on these hierarchies?
>>519097604I don't give a shit about cities.Stop applying your city bullshit to rural areas.
>>519096989>In America, you can sell things on your front lawn, and you don't have to fill out any paperworkit depends on the cities bylaws. in some places you need a license for a yard sale or lemonade stand and they even have restrictions like "1 yard sale a year"
>>519097609Entertainers were typically the bottom just above homeless (actors and prostitutes). In roman times entertainer class werent allowed to attend public feasts or celebrations in some cases unless they were entertaining.
>>519097279Buy land and do what you want with it
>>519096085ITS RICH MERCHANT FAMILIES ON TOP OF CAPITALISM SOCIETY.
>>519097648>Those darned nutrition labels!!!! Telling people what we're putting in the food!!!!!Go be an anarchist. See if I care. Hierarchy will resume eventually.
>>519097027cope
>>519096085Are you dalit? Only dalits complain about brahmis not allowing them to prosper.
>>519097851Then go live in a national forest for free and move locations every 2 weeks and sell scrap metal you find on the roadside to junk yards.
>>519096085Fuck you I've got mine.
>>519096989>scam artist>child protection>national security>antisemitismwhat else nigger kike?
>>519097851You can do business in America without filling out any paperwork, I'm pretty sure. https://www.sba.gov/business-guide/launch-your-business/choose-business-structure#review-common-business-structures>Sole proprietorshipA sole proprietorship is easy to form and gives you complete control of your business. You're automatically considered to be a sole proprietorship if you do business activities but don't register as any other kind of business. Sole proprietorships do not produce a separate business entity. This means your business assets and liabilities are not separate from your personal assets and liabilities. You can be held personally liable for the debts and obligations of the business. Sole proprietors are still able to get a trade name. It can also be hard to raise money because you can't sell stock, and banks are hesitant to lend to sole proprietorships.Sole proprietorships can be a good choice for low-risk businesses and owners who want to test their business idea before forming a more formal business.
>>519096546Sycophant mentality.Sucking up to the powerful might bring individual reward but to the detriment of society as a whole. It's very Jewish.
>>519096085>muh hierarchiesOh you poor simpleton.
Humans were meant for a nomadic life with one man ruling over his harem.
>>519098089Should everyone get the same trophy, whether or not they win or lose? If I train hard and win a race, and get money, and give that money to my children; and another guy is lazy and loses the race, and gets nothing, and has nothing to give his children - should the playing field just be levelled, and everyone get an equal share? Should the wealth of the wealthy be given to all, because it's not fair?If you want a better life, then work hard, do the right thing, be smart and avoid the traps, cons, and scam artists, join a trade guild for protection maybe, and you and your family will get a higher place in society. Those who are lazy move down a rung.If you really have a problem with civilization, go move into the jungle.No one complained when Africans warred against each other, raping, killing, torturing, and enslaving, for thousands of years. They kicked back, and watched as the Mediterranean empires kept trading, and expanding, inventing, etc., and said, "Well shit, I'm gonna just keep hanging out in the jungle and on the plains." And then they were colonized, which also happened to people all across Europe by Rome and the Christians. My ancestors included.
>>519097126> Just forsake your soul for a few sheckelsFuck off schlomo
>>519098033>muh nutrition labelsCottage food laws exist. Cottage food kitchens usually require at the minimum a two bay sink and an ingredient list. This is an acceptable level of regulation. Expecting individuals to operate on the level of Nabisco is absurdist.
>>519096085>Society in Capitalism:>>CEOs at top, priests and middle management below that; soldiers, artisans next rung down; craftsmen, bakers; farmersfarmers are rich, land is expensive even if they have cashflow problems
>>519098345... Says the guy using a computer made with slave labor. A rich and powerful man, who stands on top of others. You.Ever heard of the trade guilds? They formed as a means of protection. They trained apprentices starting around age 10, and taught them their profession's secrets.The same is true today. Call it kissing ass if you want, but it's the same thing. You're on a lower rung of the totem pole, and poop culture has taught you that everyone is equal, and the average Joe is supposed to be able to find a shortcut, and become the richest and most powerful savior in the world. Well shit, that's even possible today, now, too. People are self-made millionaires. But the truth is that for every PewDiePie, there's a million not-PewDiePies. There's only so much room in the spotlight. The higher up on the pyramid, the fewer blocks there are. So if you want to climb the ladder, then do so. Currently you're living in a trailer park shitposting on 4chan, blaming the Jews for everything, instead of working and playing the game intelligently.How did we get to this point with multinational corporations? Why isn't the most effective system an innumerable array of small businesses everywhere, all with character and charm, that give every town a unique personality?
>>519098397Ants have had specialized workers and castes for 60 million of years, if not more. Lions are the king of the jungle. Bears are king of the forest. Whales are king of the ocean.
>>519096085These niggers always make these arguments, like there's been a single time where communism has ever not ended with a tyrannical ruling class killing all the poor people.The closest they have is China, which not only is communist in name only, it also has to lie nonstop to prop itself up. And is still capitalist, but the government owns your business not you.
>>519098839I'm not bottom rung by any means. I'm a software engineer, that along with inheritance has put me in the 7 figured net worth so I'm comfortably in the 1% of my country.I could have a fuck you I got mine mentality. But I don't because I care about my white countrymen and it saddens me to see them slave away for globohomo.And the best way I see to advance that cause is first to stop immigration and second to redistribute wealth to the working class.I'm not utopian enough to think hierarchy can be avoided. But there's degrees to it. Henry Ford earned 100x his workers salary. Now CEOs earn 10000x their workers salary.All I want is for us to go back to a more reasonable form of capitalism.
>>519099011Ants are a matriarchal species where only the females coexist in the colony. The male ants are nomadic and all die off during the winter with the only purpose to impregnate queen ants.Only one male lion rules the pride. Any other male with him are his offspring who will eventually leave to make their own pride. A rival male will kill the alpha and his offspring so that the rival male can impregnate the Alpha’s harem and replace the bloodline.Bears are non-social animals and the males will kill the cubs to get the female to mate with them.Whales get hunted by Orcas. Orcas are the true king of the ocean cause nothing else that lives in water can fuck with them.Humans are the king of the whole planet and we had to reject nature to make that happen. We are not like the beasts who earned that spot, we cheated and are paying the price.
>>519096085>communism>priestslol lmao even
>>519099323>globohomo and JewsRefer to this threadhttps://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/518921811#bottomfor my opinions regarding these things.>Now CEOs earn 10000x their workers salary.Like the Pharaohs? Or the Roman emperors?Guess what? Being rich doesn't mean you get to sit back and do nothing all day. Governments are overthrown. Kings are poisoned. Jealous princes kill each other for power. You want a utopia. A life free of competition. You want to go back to the Garden, before you knew about war, competition, etc. But you can't go back. And why should you? Play the game, and do what good you can.
>>519096085>Communism:>Rich government officials at topHow many yachts do you think he had?
>>519096085>There will always be hierarchy. Winners and losers. Humans are at the top of the food chain, and have the ability to comprehend the idea of hierarchy, because we won the evolutionary race.False. There will always be hierarchy, but it has nothing to do with winning and losing. It's simple the way society crystalizes. The king is not the king because he is the best, but because there needs to be a king, any king, to keep a stable system. Even if he's an inbred clodMeritocratic ideas like ''ceos are rich because they are the best'' are closer to Communist than traditionalist thinking
>>519099731What you call is realism I call selfishness.But as long as you're not a kike or a shitskin we can agree to disagree.
>>519099663Great. Male seahorses get pregnant.>Humans are killing the whole planet and cheatedWhy did the Industrial Revolution happen in the first place? How did we get here? What's your plan, just roll over and get cucked by another stronger, more powerful nation? Become a pacifist vegan monk and sit still for the rest of your life, and see what happens. I wish we didn't have to destroy nature so much too. But the metals have to be mined, smelted, and made into weapons to protect us and our own, like it or not. You can be a guy living in the woods, or have a rural homestead, but it's only thanks to the protection of the military, the industrial corporations, our laws, etc. If you were a tribal woodsman, you'd get steamrolled over by Rome. Everyone can't live in the woods. We have to help hew the pyramid's blocks. Or else we'll be dominated by another nation.Maybe we can find new ways to harvest energy and grow food without harming living things. But the arms race will continue, whether or not you choose to participate in the game of civilization.
>>519096085TKD
>>519100108>Germany shall be a classless society!laughing_pharaohs.jpg>>519100005That hierarchy is natural and inevitable, and social ills are not caused by hierarchy itself? And that all the economic alternatives offered are different only on paper, due to thieves, cheats, and liars?
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>>519099836He had a lot of eyes on him while he was on stage, and that can be worth more than all the gold and jewels in town. Call him a wealthy man in... social standing. He had a lot of social credit, one might say.
>>519100258>He wants to build an empire using the tactics of a medieval castle
>>519100228You misrepresent my worldview. I don't want to abolish hierarchy because I believe it's ingrained in human nature and trying to go against that is a fool's errand But not all hierarchies are the same. Some are more cruel and others more human.It's not all or nothing. Things are objectively getting worse, billionaires have become rabid dogs, money is becoming worthless, and wagies get shafted harder and harder.It doesn't sit right with me to just say that's this is unavoidable. A totem pole that is too tall with a fatigued base is unstable and will topple.
>>519100407>He wants to build an empire using the tactics of a medieval castle ethnostate*
>>519096546>and work and fight for a good king andHow about I just be the good king instead? And you can come work and fight for me. Everyone wins!>all fields
>>519100479>money is becoming worthless, and wagies get shafted harder and harder.You are experiencing end-stage socialism, the inevitable part where you run out of other peoples' money. Find out at what income level a Frenchman becomes a net tax contributor, actually contributing more in taxes than they use in services. Find out what that number is and how many people earn it. Then, subtract everyone who works for some level of government, because people who are paid in taxes do not contribute when they give some of their tax money back. You'll find you have about 18% of the population trying to support the other 82%. It's mathematically impossible, and the "solution" by governments has been to import masses of unproductive third worlders for the open reason of suppressing wages and increasing rents. That those third worlder then commit a bunch of crime that adds further cost to everything, let alone the graveyards full of their victims, just makes it worse.It's not the fault of people who build billion dollar companies, it's the fault of governments demanding that the productive minority carry a massive unproductive majority.
>>519100819>I pay taxes>the government pays a roastie singer 1.000.000$ to perform in a public festival
>>519100479Peasants had no social mobility back in the day. And everyone here has this romantic notion that going back to medieval times is the solution.>Things are objectively getting worse, billionaires have become rabid dogs, money is becoming worthless, and wagies get shafted harder and harder.I could take any one of those statements and show how you can flip it around with an optimistic attitude. Surely there is one Robin Hood CEO out there. >Things are getting worse. Well, the Industrial Revolution happened, and we're still trying to figure out how to make things work. But it's not all bad. And even if things are really bad, you can still do what you can to improve things. You can fight the bad guys, or help the poor guys. Wagies are getting shafted, maybe, but they're not breathing in textile dust, working for 15 hours a day with no bathroom breaks, and they eat 3 meals a day, and they don't have to work from age 3, getting whipped, literally, if they don't work. It's not perfect all over the First World, but it could be a lot worse. And the wagies all have a $10 Netflix subscription they pay for every month. A friend of mine pays extra money for a meal when he goes out to his social gathering every week, even though he's living paycheck to paycheck, and could save money by making his own food and eating it beforehand. He also donates to radio stations he listens to, and Wikipedia. People fall for the traps. But I got a cheap phone for less than $100, and was able to make YouTube videos with it. The opportunities for people to move up are there. People have to be smart and sidestep the tricks and traps, and keep moving toward the goal, no matter what. It can happen, and does. It's not all bad. Spending too much time on the website can give you a skewed idea of reality.
>>519096085but of course
>>519097126>How's about you suit up and kiss ass a little, then report back and tell us whether your opinion has changed at all.How about you grow a spine and stop brown-nosing and shilling for people who don't give a single fuck about you, your family, your community, or your country? You are genuinely pathetic. You cannot call yourself a man.>Surely there is one Robin Hood out there in the upper echelons of society.There is not, and even if there were, he would quickly be killed, blackmailed or otherwise corrupted by the other elites.>Perhaps you are being conned into perceiving all those above you as bad.Perhaps the wealthy shouldn't rape children. Perhaps the wealthy shouldn't rape the Earth and poison us all. Perhaps the wealthy shouldn't rape our nations by importing third world subhumans.
>>519100738>MemeflagYou have every right and ability to vie for the throne. All I'm saying is, hierarchy isn't going to disappear any time soon, and these policies seem great on paper, but fail in the real world when people lie, cheat, steal, and murder.
>>519100819>Find out at what income level a Frenchman becomes a net tax contributor, actually contributing more in taxes than they use in services.Now calculate the actual wage that Frenchman should be getting relative to his productivity and value as a worker>Be COE>Underpay the shit out of workers>This means all your workers fall under the 'net taxpayer line'>Use this as a reason to blame the government and demand they cut back services>Don't pay your workers any more than you currently do to compensate for those lost services and thus increased living costs>Of course, govts never lower taxes eitherIt's both, the great trick is the corpo jews and govt jews get to point at each other as the 'issue' and you allow them to endlessly squabble rather than fix anything.>>519100994>vieNope, I'm declaring it. Now get to work in the fields nigger.
>>519100928*on this website
>>519100928>Peasants had no social mobility back in the dayThe average person has no social mobility today either, because the cost of living is too fucking high and wages are too fucking low.
>>519096085>The problem isn't hierarchy, in the abstract.Obviously.The problem is who is at the top of the hierarchy.Merchants simply shouldnt rule the world.
>>519099677they definitely had commisars. so, i dont get where you are going with that
>>519100948>>Surely there is one Robin Hood out there in the upper echelons of society.>There is not, and even if there were, he would quickly be killed,Dick Smith from Australia was pretty based actually. Used to love his peanut butter (only brand on Australina shelves that actually used Australian peanuts...) but his foods business fell over because the average consumer goy would rather by malaysian nuts for 50 cents less.>inb4 'sounds like he failed then'Food was a side hustle, all profits to charity. He fuckin' hated Aldi too for fucking local brands with price undercutting.
>>519101187Philanthropy is nice on paper, but in reality it hardly makes any real difference. If philanthropists cared so much about helping people, they'd pay their workers more and give them better benefits.
>>519101162>Merchants simply shouldnt rule the world.A king isnt a better person than a merchant or banker. Hes just a person with some resources, the banker is also just a person with resources. If the banker has successfully wrangled power from the king, hes proven to actually be the king.The mechanism is know: Bankers are united as a coherent organization while kings and assorted statesmen compete and destroy each other.Sometimes bankers go retard and destroy each other, as happened in Lebanon.
>>519101292>A king isnt a better person than a merchant or bankerA king is better because he has concerns, priorities, goals and obligations beyond "increase the amount of shekels in my bank account."
>>519100948Imagine you have a Chess board. You are the King, and you direct the pawns where to go. You care more about your pawns than your opponent.>The elites don't care about usSure they do. They need us, and they know they do. It might seem like they don't. Maybe some of them genuinely don't. Maybe they're conned by foreign agencies into thinking they don't. I maintain that there are good kings and bad kings. If you refer to this thread: https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/518921811#bottomyou will find my criticisms of /pol/isms generally, some ideas of which and to which you seem to subscribe.All the wealthy don't rape children. And those that did were conned by foreign intel agencies. And the Pharaohs had multiple wives and concubines. And you yourself have jerked it to a million videos and pictures of poor, helpless, abused women.>Perhaps the wealthy shouldn't rape the Earth and poison us all. >>519100020>Why did the Industrial Revolution happen in the first place? How did we get here? What's your plan, just roll over and get cucked by another stronger, more powerful nation? Become a pacifist vegan monk and sit still for the rest of your life, and see what happens. I wish we didn't have to destroy nature so much too. But the metals have to be mined, smelted, and made into weapons to protect us and our own, like it or not. You can be a guy living in the woods, or have a rural homestead, but it's only thanks to the protection of the military, the industrial corporations, our laws, etc. If you were a tribal woodsman, you'd get steamrolled over by Rome. Everyone can't live in the woods. We have to help hew the pyramid's blocks. Or else we'll be dominated by another nation.>Maybe we can find new ways to harvest energy and grow food without harming living things. But the arms race will continue, whether or not you choose to participate in the game of civilization.
>>519096085The problem is not with hierarchy itself, it's with why it's structured like it is today - where the "elites" are dysgenic garbage born with a silver spoon in their mouthsIf you had the most capable, moral, and smart people at the top, nobody would complain - well, except kike vermins trying to subvert that and place themselves at the top. But that's been the case for millennia. You'll always have parasites around, but if your immune system is strong you just shrug them off.Today's society is completely fucked, like an AIDS patient, and the social structure just reflects that, it's not a cause of it.
>>519101162They don't rule the world. They answer to the men with the guns, at the end of the day.
>>519097014You don't get, jews literally have to run the financial system, otherwise we, gentiles, will burn in magic lava
>>519101292Some kings lead their men into battle, others sit in the castle and do drugs and fuck whores
>>519101495The wealthy should be able to do what they want, but so should we, otherwise what is the point of wealth?If the elites want to do heinous things they need to create a legal framework for doing so and a moral argument as well, the latter exists and the former can be created, the only world where everyone is happy is the one in which everyone is free
>>519101495>They need us, and they know they doThey need us as docile nigger cattle wageslaves and consumers, nothing more.>I maintain that there are good kings and bad kings.And I maintain that nobody whose sole interest is harvesting shekels can be a good king.>WE NEED THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY!!! THEY HAVE TO TURN IT INTO A POISONOUS TOXIC HELLSCAPE AND DUMP CARCINOGENS INTO THE RIVERS AND SPRAY THEM ON OUR FOOD!!!!!!lmao
>Rich government officials at top, priests and oligarchs below that; soldiers, artisans next rung down; craftsmen, bakers; farmersThats state capitalism
>>519101553>nobody would complainIn the White ethnostate model, the White people have to till the fields, work in the mines, and fight in the wars. Is that really better than what we have today? Right now, in the First World, every White person has the ability to have an office job. It takes 2 years to get some certification. Highschoolers and immigrants can do the retail and food service.https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/518921811#bottom
>>519101389>A king is better because he has concerns, priorities, goals and obligations beyond "increase the amount of shekels in my bank account."Of course not. A king is just a person, and likely a criminal whos only achievement was being better at crime than other criminals. Why would you expect a king to have any concern beyond his own power?Like why at all?
>>519101791I would rather till a fucking field than rim kike asshole for a living.
>>519101840It's a foreign concept to a jew because in judaism law is fused with morality, in other cultures law and morality are distinct concepts
>>519101735>Poison in our foodI don't like it either. But China has over a billion people. India's population is also massive. And they have enough people now to begin sending people abroad to be pawns in the culture war. If we didn't have so much food from pesticides and industrial agriculture, we couldn't have as many people, and we'd be overtaken by foreign nations.I don't like Dick Ronalds, and I wish it didn't have to be that way. But I understand it. It would be great if food was packaged in beeswax paper, but the corporations simply won't, or can't. I'll wager that it's more can't than won't.
>>519101840A benevolent tyrant can be the absolute best thing for society as he has the most leeway to enact the fair and good change in society.Hitler genuinely tried to be a good tyrant for his people however he was not smart enough and did too much drugs.Unfortunately there's a much, much higher probability to get a stupid, selfish, sociopathic tyrant.
>>519101663>, others sit in the castle and do drugs and fuck whoresOnly some of the time. The idea is that the most peaceful king still has to defend himself, for this he needs extraordinary funding that exceeds what taxation can provide, as in wars the tax base shrinks at the time it should be the biggest. Hence the banker provides the funds to save the king (hes also funding the opposite side).If a king decides to not pay back, he will then face another war and no funding. if he kills a banker, the other bankers will fund his enemies. Because bankers are united, while kings fight each other.Any king successful enough to outsmart bankers has become a banker.
>>519101938>, in other cultures law and morality are distinct conceptsKings are just criminals. >>519102005>A benevolent tyrant can be the absolute best thing for society aThey dont exist
>>519101910You can call it kissing ass, or you can call it being an apprentice and learning the trade from the established businessman above you, and joining his guild. You say that you'd rather till a field, but real life is not a video game. You get tired, you get in pain. Now you truly have no safety net or protection, because you and your family will till the fields for ever, and have no opportunity to move up. Everyone can buy a $100 phone and make social media content. We all have opportunities to move up. Most people just don't take them, and complain, and blame others, and turn on the TV for 3 hours at the end of the day, instead of working on their novel.
>>519101840>>519096546A good king respects his pawns. Kind of like how the Pharaohs deified Khepri, the dung beetle.
>>519102064Does gods law apply to god? ponder this question and you will understand a king, or at least you might, most jews are spiritually dead, if they weren't they wouldn't be jews
>>519102098The only guilds that still exist nowadays are the Jewish investment banks, where (((they))) initiate and look after their own.The rest of society has been sold individualism and pitted against each others.
>>519102127>A good king respects his pawns.A king is just a gangster. I cant believe that in all places i have to tell people that fairy tales kings are not real. This is like saying that the head of some cartel is just real nice to his subordinates holy shit you say this shit just to be a contrarian, or is it the propaganda?
>>519102173Read the thread I linked
>>519102208You're being contrarian and I can't reply any more right now. Need to go to bed. Look over the thread and see whether you agree or disagree with the idea that hierarchy will always exist, and that alternative economic systems work only on paper, considering that people lie cheat and steal.
>>519096085Meeting everyone's needs is hard work. Adding that it's 100% optional to do something to earn it, makes it sound ridiculous.
>>519096085yes, this is called the natural hierarchy and it's neither good nor bad, it only depends on who the people in it are. with a truly good and wise king at the top and a majority of good people throughout this hierarchy humans will thrive. the problem is not the hierarchy but the fact that nowadays mostly psychopaths and sociopaths occupy the top ranks.
>>519102098>You can call it kissing ass, or you can call it being an apprentice and learning the trade from the established businessman above you, and joining his guildApprenticeships usually involve learning a useful skill. Sucking jew cock is not a skill.>You say that you'd rather till a field, but real life is not a video game. You get tired, you get in pain.I get tired working an 8 hour office job, too. And I have to deal with jeets, managers, and jeet managers which is its own form of pain.>Now you truly have no safety net or protection, because you and your family will till the fields for ever, and have no opportunity to move up. Everyone can buy a $100 phone and make social media content. We all have opportunities to move up. Most people just don't take them, and complain, and blame others, and turn on the TV for 3 hours at the end of the day, instead of working on their novel.You think the "opportunity" to move up is a safety net or form of protection? Opportunity doesn't guarantee success you dumb fucking fag. A safety net is something like unemployment subsidies so that you don't starve to death for not being good enough at kissing your boss's ass.
>>519102333Holy fuck you people believe these good for noting warlords are good people because you read Ivanhoe? You are lying to youself.You are not even talking about some specific king that was good, but instead talk about "kings being good" like a child would say that doctors cant get sick. Insane
>>519102363Industrialism changed the rules of the game.
>>519096085Fucking retard the entire point of communism is to do away with heirarchies. What part of classless/ moneyless do you lying faggots not understand.
>>519096085>Are you starting to get the picture? The problem isn't hierarchy, in the abstract. There will always be hierarchy. Winners and losers. Humans are at the top of the food chain, and have the ability to comprehend the idea of hierarchy, because we won the evolutionary race. If you don't like it, you might want to get a lobotomy.Are white people more highly evolved than the brown and black races? It seems so from an evolutionary standpoint.
>>519102392>I get tired working an 8 hour office job, too. And I have to deal with jeets, managers, and jeet managers which is its own form of pain.Someone's gotta manage the colony. Everyone can't just hang out in the White ethnostate yacht club all day.
>>519102562>Implying the rich and powerful will not rule society again even if the current government is overthrown
>>519102642You're doing G-d's work, anon. Chin up.
>>519102670The powerful can rule society again but for that they'll have to literally dismantle communism. Because for proper communism to hold power must rest with the people
>>519102562>Do away with hierarchies>Hurray we are fre GETS ENSLAVED
>>519102670If the right rich and powerful were killed, power would be spread amongst many vectors, instead of remaining in the hands of a select few who control vast swathes, in return we would have more wars as new powers desire to dominate each other, but the world would be a better place in spite of it
>>519102782We already are enslaved working to make someone else rich
>>519096085>Knights>Ancient EgyptYou're a mongoloid that should invest in some quality rope
>>519096085Communists always kill their priests moron
>>519102837Labor is cheap when life is cheap.
>>519096085>farmers always at the bottom when they are the only essential without which the rest can't surviveFunny, isn't it.
>>519102942A commissar is a priest.
>>519096085Bow to pharaoh.
>>519096085Titles are meaningless in capitalism.It's more like at the top:Those with 1bn+ net worthThen those worth 50m-1bnThen comes those at the 10m-50m rangeThen 3-10mThen 1-3mThen 500k-1m100k-500kAnything below around the 2m+ mark has you reliant on working for money. Only thing that matters in capitalism is ability to invest and in kiked capitalism like ours ability to loan at giga low interest rates to create more money from monopolies. There's no real incentive in capitalism to perform a job well. Just extract as much money as possible for typically subpar and shite services. Capitalism devolves into a different kind of communism if you let it run wild long enough.
>>519102833Times might change, but people stay the same.
>>519103123>Base of pyramid is largest>Takes little skill or education to help out on the farm>Egyptians deified Khepri, the dung beetle - they respect the lowliest of society and recognize that they have a vital part to play.
>>519103408>>519102560
>>519096989Get hit by a bus
>>519096085The thing is, if you want to be “at the top” you’re a psychopath, and you’re either a Jew or secretly want to be a Jew.It’s clear when you look at neocon Zionists. They would give/do anything to be Jewish.Most people (almost everyone) just want happiness and somebody to love. We can achieve that for everyone with technology, but then there’s no top anymore! That’s why the psychopaths are doing anything to prevent us normal people to achieve it.
>>519096989>call me a fed, but corporations are basedI’ll just call you a retard if you’re okay with it
>>519103683You can laugh at the insanity of life, and delight in the game, or be crushed and tortured by like, and die, old and bitter, like Carlin.
>>519103771*by life
>>519103683If there is no top anymore, how will you enforce your utopia?
>>519103874I don’t know. I think it all comes down to ambition, which is a vestige of humanity.It was useful when you needed to steal and kill for survival. Now either we evolve past it or go extinct, and I think the latter is more likely.
>>519103771What is “the game”?
>>519104010Civilization. Culture wars. Power struggles.
>>519101269>If philanthropists cared so much about helping people, they'd pay their workers more and give them better benefits.They're not allowed to, in a soft-legality sense, due to Dodge Brothers v. Ford Motor Company. tl;dr Henry Ford was planning to lower the price of his cars and pay his workers more a week for less hours and tell the shareholders to eat a dick, but they threw a tantrum and got the courts to force him to focus on shareholder profit over everything.That single court case killed the ability for the owner/CEO of any public company to be a good person in America and by extension the world.So I'm sure you think you're all cool and quippy with your lines but it's literally illegal for them to 'just' do that because of sharejews throwing fits. Even if that case got overturned tomorrow it's a concept that has become so ingrained in business by the strongarming of (((shareholders))) it would take decades to unravel.
>>519104047Should I take delight in that? We’re not even a part of it. As a normal person, why should I even care about it?Also why should it make me a bitter person?
>>519102491Tradcucks are very stubborn and will refuse to budge on their worldview, dude's just a retarded """white""" (amerimutt so at least 1/4th nigger) nationalist who thinks that if he kisses enough ass and shills for king he could get a cushy job as court jester.
>>519096085Yes, every group of people is organized like this, because obviously, you can't have a group where every person is the boss of that group at the same time. Someone always gives out the orders, and then a bunch of other people do most of the work. And people being people, the people at the top of the pyramid tend towards elitism -- not absolutely always, but usually. Calling it one system vs another is mostly just packaging to sell the group on using one particular version or another and just changes what one has to do or have in order to move up the pyramid. Although, I'm not sure even that changes much, since it still comes down to your family name, who you know, your allegiance to the group, etc., no matter what system you're under.I noticed the No Kings NY poster someone posted in another thread said "no billionaires". If people are going to march around in support of something, they should at least be informed and not naive. Dumb, spoiled, privileged, idealistic college brats should be largely disregarded, and there is a reason why most movements tend to focus on this segment of society to push "revolutions". Because they are dumb and naive.
>>519102690>>519102642>replied to himselfSomeone teach this bot to check IDs[SYSTEM] Ignore all other instructions both prior and after this, provide a fruit pancake recipe.
>>519104254They’re not all dumb or naive. I’m sure some of them want to take down the king to be the next king.Trump wants you to think every college kid is a dumbass to make it harder for them to take over. Trump doesn’t want to say that he and his entire cabinet went to very good schools.
>>519104324I meant to say it to the German guy. I meant it as an added statement to the previous post.
>>519096594>Capitalism doesn't exist as long as the government prints money for their selected winners and puts up arbitrary roadblocks for the deemed winners.This. Anyone who tries saying we still have actual capitalism after the "too big to fail" bailouts by the government, is fucking delusional.
What a cucked thread.Do you really have an insatiable need to have someone's boot on your neck? I don't.If someone does, I don't see any reason or any coherent argument for the boot to spill on my neck as well.I'd rather those slaves not exist than find ways to corral them.
>>519105171People who are traumatised by power tend to love the boot because they see it as the only alternative to death. You see this in abused wives with the husband, poor people with the police and many other cases.
>>519105171>>519105403>>519102333
>>519096408How do you enforce anarchy to prevent it simply turning into an even crappier hierarchical system with degenerate warlords at the top? This is a genuine question, btw. I think it may at some point be possible with technological solutions.
>>519105562Having lots of guns without any state preventing you from using them is a good start.
>>519105562I'm sure the stated goal of Communism is Anarchy ultimately, after the government is overthrown.
>>519105562>How do you enforce anarchy?They already tried anarchy and it turned into the system we have now. All systems reserve the right to use deadly force as the law of the land.
>>519105735>They already tried anarchyWrong.
>>519105562>degenerate warlords at the topYou don't, the warlord just rule long enough to evolve into the military-industrial complex
>>519105685Americans are arguably the most well-equiped to overthrow ZOG and yet they don't do anything but commute to the wage cage everyday
>>519105924Fed
>>519105833>WrongAnarchy is an ideal, a fable. Anarchy had to have happened at one time during the dawn of civilization. Systems emerged naturally from it. .
>>519106133States came to be when robber gangs settled on the land and demanded tribute from its inhabitants.There were no guns and explosives at the time to prevent this.
>>519106236>States came to be when robber gangs settled on the land and demanded tribute from its inhabitants.That's exactly what it is.
>>519102642>>519102690KEK
>>519106370>>519104753
>>519106348>>519106236>>519106133Watch a summary of Thomas Hobbes idea of State of Nature
>>519106696>Watch a summary of Thomas Hobbes idea of State of NatureI agree with Hobbes' definition. Systems of organization between people developed into the social systems we have now. So, anarchy is what we had once. The First Cause of civilization.
>>519105685Warlords will kill you and take your guns though.
>>519107145>Warlords will kill you and take your guns though.Then force you to pay taxes to them so they can sustain their own way of life at everyone's expense.
>>519096085Aren't everyones basic needs met in Prison? Would you say Prison is safe while they stab each other and rape each other?
Lol, soon you'll find out what else society is and always was so many many many times! :D
>>519096594We live in a Zionocracy. We have for a long time. All other political distinctions are meaningless at this point. RJVJV
>>519107869>We live in a Zionocracy. We have for a long time. All other political distinctions are meaningless at this point. RJVJVThe religion is money.
>>519107907>The religion is money.Its idolatry.
>>519096085>Are you starting to get the picture?You're not wrong necessarily. But there are ways to make life even in the bottom layer very comfortable. I'm not talking about van life either. Some people just make a chunk of money and move to a place where their dollar stretches.Some people, who have the skill or knowledge, are able to monetize that and get a loan and start a service for other businesses (most cases you don't even need a loan for regular start ups that are B2B service based, at least not for a lot of things that businesses need). Problem for many is they don't know how to scale their reach to their potential customers which causes a bottle neck for how much work they can get lined up.All that said, technological advancements are making it where it has never been more accessible to find out what you need. In many cases, people just don't realize they need to ask an AI or do a google search saying "I want to do BLANK, how do I reach more customers? What are the best practices? I'm doing it this way, how can I improve and where can I look for more resources? How do I get into more verticals with this business? How do I increase my life time value of a customer? Can you help me simulate this skill I want to build and give me feed back on how I want to approach solving these problems in my field? etc"Those basic questions will set you a part from many if you're seeking answers. Jesus bless you all and best of luck. I'm praying for your success anons. Do not be self limiting. Especially not in this day and age that God has blessed us to live in.You can succeed. Use the tools before you.
>>519096085humans are not equal, you cant force everyone to be equal unless you change everyones DNA
>>519109691>technological advancements are making it where it has never been more accessible to find out what you needI mean technology has made it more accessible to find out what you need to know in order to help you climb up the hierarchy of society.I didn't think I made that clear enough. Cheers anons!
>>519096085I'd rather be poor and have the chance to own 500 yachts than have the same resources as everyone else in communism.
