>>519868543
Ive been saying that Asperger's is just code for your parents were psychopaths

>>519868543
>>519868776
Certainly tracks with my own experiences and observations across multiple generations of my family. There's a book called Scattered that's about ADHD, but the doctor that wrote it made mention within it that autism/aspergers/ADHD all appear to be PTSD coping mechanisms from extremely early childhood that get internalized and alter the brain's structure to survive the chaos of a cold or incoherent parent figure.

>>519868776
It's telling that the children of niggers and spics (completely negligent, let their kids run out on the street) have FAR lower rates of autism than white parents who lock in their kids but starve them emotionally

>>519868543
anything but vaccines

>>519868543
she loved you intensely, she was just incapable of showing it.

>>519869720
I wonder if autism rates could be correlated to Stranger Danger messaging.

>>519869720
Id say it related to niggers not taking their kids to psychiatrists, psychiatrists dismissing it as normal nugget behavior, or psychiatry existing as a political tool to destroy white people

>>519868543
Maybe they like the emptiness machine a bit too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAt8oxY0GQo

This sounds like schizoid personality disorder more than autism.

>>519868543
This happened with me but in a indirect way.
My mother needed to work and put money inside home while my alcoholic and violent stepfather did nothing because "it was his house".

I just grew up pretty distant from my mother and basically everybody else because that.
If I cannot find a stay-at-home wife to take care mu kids I'm just not having them. I think this was what most broke me.

>>519868543
>muh mommy/daddy
Ya know this shit just gets old. Always wanting to scapegoat for your own shitty attitude. My mom was severely bipolar and emotionally distant/abusive. I loved her anyway and still do 20 years into the grave. It wasn't my upbringing that fucked me. It was my own dumb perception and unwillingness to move beyond myself with anything other than contempt. The past doesn't matter it's dead. Tomorrow isnt even real. How you are right now defines both.

>>519870509
>bootstraps boomer unintentionally displays their cope for everyone to see, on the wager others will take it as strength

>>519869720
I see this a lot here. Young niggers and mulattos are usually the very extrovert ones, while whites are usually the weirdos.
This is pretty habitat dependent too. In the South where whites outnumber all the other races, I don't see weird people coming from them.

>>519870672
Ok I'll spell it out for those that can't read. Love conquers all. Simple shit that's been known for forever.

>>519870509
This is just cope.

>>519870767
I heard the same thing from every Gen X and Boomer I know, but all they ever meant by it is "my behavior towards others cannot ever result in consequences because the moral impetus is on everyone else to give me a free pass".

Love doesn't conquer MRI detectable neuron distortion caused by childhood abuse any more than it'll conquer a gunshot wound.

>>519870792
How is it cope that I loved my broken mother and realized it was MY attitude and perception of things that was wrong? How is it cope to see a mistake and correct it? That's literally the opposite. You're just a pussy and want to be a victim.

>>519870902
Does any of that keep you from moving through life with live in your heart? No. You do that to yourself.

>>519868543
None of the behaviours of the fridge theory happened in my case yet I am a king sperg

>>519870940
>Anyone who doesn't self-flagellate to make parental abuse permissible and a personal skill issue is a PUSSY and has a VICTIM COMPLEX

I thought I was reaching by calling you a Bootstraps Boomer, but holy fuck.

>>519871037
Lying to yourself is still lying. You can only fail forward so long before it catches up with you and you become a monster without realizing it. Carry that cope with you into parenthood and you'll abuse the shit out of your kids while telling yourself it's only right.

>>519868543
no, it's retarded bullshit
you're autistic because those are your Neanderthal genes reasserting themselves
reject (((Cro-Magnon))) embrace Neanderthal

>>519870940
>How is it cope that I loved my broken mother and realized it was MY attitude and perception of things that was wrong?

Again, this is cope.
If I cut off my son's arm when he's a baby and later he rationalizes that I did that because love or some shit, this is literally a cope mechanism. Exactly what you're doing when you have this "it was all my fault" bullshit.

But whatever, man. If you don't trust me just check with any psychologist as this is fucking a basic stuff and much more common than you think.

>>519871170
Yes. How you feel about life is wholly on you. That doesn't excuse anything. It makes you more aware to not repeat the pattern because love and forgiveness break it. That's the work you're too much of a pussy to do. Because it hurts inside and you NEED someone or thing to blame. But what has blame ever gotten anyone in the long term? Letting it hurt inside and still choosing to express love is the only to really heal.

this OP nigger is posting some jew "psychology" "scientist" again
ignore it

Bruno Bettelheim is guess of what race
yes, you guessed correctly
he is a jew

>>519871406
>my past sucks
>I'll just feel shitty about it
Or you can forgive and love anyway. How do you not understand this?

>>519870509
> The past doesn't matter it's dead. Tomorrow isnt even real.
You're damaged, my good dude. Your rationalisations are a coping mechanism.

>>519871454
If you did not extend this graciousness to others, then they have no obligation to extend it to you. Cope.

>>519871673
There is only now, this moment. How you decide to feel now changes both.

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>>519869832
>Amish have zero autism
It must be their diet!

>>519871720
Expectations of return aren't part of the equation. Whether or not someone returns the graciousness does nothing to pull me from alignment. They are their own being in their own tangle as am I.

>>519868543
(((Bettelheim)))

>>519871454
I don't think you'd be so immediately hostile to the conversation if you'd truly resolved whatever it is that was done to you. You saw people merely discussing the possibility of permanent parental damage against children and instantly came in swinging to shout and insult down everyone. That's not arguing from a position of confidence, that is a narcissistic meltdown from having your framework for stability challenged.

Nobody has claimed any of the things you're accusing us of, but you see it that way because that's the only thing a deviation from your framework can be allowed to be.

>>519871610
You didn't forgive. You're saying they did nothing wrong.
You can only truly forgive if you accept they were shitheads on raising you. That's the point.

>>519871773
Yes, you're unwilling to face the past, or the future. The child inside is crying RIGHT NOW. Mommy doesn't care about the past or the future - nothing you did changed her behaviour. Why try anymore.
You're here for a reason, telling the world how much you don't care - because you do and the ones who were supposed to show you how failed. But that would mean it's you who failed, so naturally, this isn't an option.
Maybe you'll be able to see that one day.

>>519868543
no autism is just intellectual superiority under the effects of a retarded population unable to understand basic principles of logic and reason forcing all others into a comformist system geared to take care of emotion and opinions with minimum butthurt for everybody in principle but constant shame and hatred in reality they are gay you are based

people with ADD are autism defient disorderlies

and ADHD is autism deficit hyper tension whatever the fuck

any other category beyond this is just mental illness resulting from being on the losing side in the human wars of different mind categories they lost and are now in a system not created with concern about whether or not it can allow them to develop into functioning humans

as such they should all be put out of their tax payer wasting uselessness

get rid of insane asylums kill everyone with a diagnosis other than ADHD ADD AND AUTISM

or who otherwise would not function or does not function the normies can live because they in their vast different categories of idiot that fits in would immedietaly turn upon anyone trying to go after any of them on a mind war basis and will not care enough about the insane to seriously try to stop you

>>519868543
You're probably not autistic and just have severe social issues, as a mother who doesn't love you will impart early childhood trauma due to abandonment.

Autism is a fashion diagnosis and gets slapped on every kid that shows social deficits, as its much easier to declare that you have an incurable brain disorder than to finance the many hours of therapy needed to overcome your issues.

>but the doctor that wrote it made mention within it that autism/aspergers/ADHD all appear to be PTSD coping mechanisms from extremely early childhood that get internalized

They fo r the most part are, besides the brain structure being altered which is complete bullshit. Complex PTSD resulting from such an upringing will lead to your hormonal balance being completely fucked up due to your brain essentially being in alert mode all the time nonstop , and your social centers neurons are all wired up wrong, but there are not actual physical changes to the brain that would be irreversible.

>>519870902

I will curse God until the end of time if love can't conquer the wickedness of this realm forever.

I wish I could save this girl I like who has BPD.

>>519872623
Infant trauma detectable with brain MRI was proven in that study about circumcision that got buried for antisemitism. Trauma itself is a catastrophic permanent neuron knotting around the memories of the event, which neighboring neuron clusters can accidentally set off. The only thing we know of that can disentangle neurons are hallucinogens, which is why you're going to start seeing a lot of experimental treatment for PTSD with super low doses of party drugs from the 70s.

Everything else you said is spot on though.

t. Diagnosed autistic in my late 30s, pituitary tumor fucking up my hormones, fight or flight running 24/7, highly abusive childhood, etc.

>>519872792
If God truly judges the heart (intentions) rather than one's outcomes, then there's a case to be made that even the most unhinged BPD psycho is saved as long as they're doing their best with what they've got.

>>519873115

People curse my intentions to hell because im a heckin predator who disrespects muh boundarinos but GOD the LORD himself gave me the visions that proved to me shes suffering from abuse

>>519870940
>>519871037
You think taking responsibility for something that isnt your fault comes from a place of love? You hate yourself which is why I can feel your vitriol from across the world.

>>519873115

Theres a real artwork she made that documents the abuse after I had those visions.

>>519873115
>Infant trauma detectable with brain MRI was proven in that study about circumcision that got buried for antisemitism.

Hate to tell you, but that ancient hogwash about toddlers not feeling pain has long ago been disproven in the rest of the world. Around here, any neonatal surgeryhappens under anaesthezia like you'd expect.

American medical associations simply choose to ignore the current science as it would make mass circumsizions infeasible if they had to do full anaesthezia every time, thus closing an easy revenue stream.
And also make a whole lot of people face their own trauma instead of coping by perpetuationg it.

>The only thing we know of that can disentangle neurons are hallucinogens, which is why you're going to start seeing a lot of experimental treatment for PTSD with super low doses of party drugs from the 70s.

Thats untrue though, because Neurons are inherently plastic and cannot permanently altered for that reason.
Hallucinogens can simply accelerate the process by temporarily enhancing Neuroplasticity.
Compley PTSD can be entirely resolved or at least treated to a point where the symptoms become easy to manage and no longer affect ones life.
t. guy who did that

>>519873356
>You think taking responsibility for something that isnt your fault comes from a place of love?


Yes. Its not your faul that it happened, but it is your fault if you refuse to deal with it and allow it to control your life.

>>519873767
>t. guy who did that
What treatment modality? I'm interested.

>>519868543
This is one of those frustrating moments where I made this observation/theory myself too, only to find out it was already theorized. Damnit I wish I had gone to fucking school and got a diploma and put the idea forward lmao.


Anyway yes, it's a real pattern one I have noticed time and time again in many autists, and even my own family. I'm one of three brothers. Oldest is a normie, no autism/ADHD. The middle is autistic. And me, the youngest, no autism. But I do have adhd.

And my own testimony is my mother was unable to mother my middle brother, the autistic one. She was hospitalized for long stints at a time, and it was my father who was more involved in his upbringing.

My mother got better, and I received more of her love than my dad's. I end up with ADHD. My oldest brother, he got a balance of both, and has neither autism or ADHD.

So it would mean:
>Balanced love from both = normie
>Too much of father, too little of mother = Autism
>Too much of mother, too little of father = ADHD.

However I don't think this theory works. Because
>#1 exceptions to the rules frequently exist, where the order is reversed. Where autists had amazing relationships to mom etc.

Also it's already explained genetically
>Autism & ADHD is passed down genetically, namely through the Shank-2 Gene

So an autist who is cold and aloof has a mother who is also cold and aloof? It simply means the mom has autism. And the child got autism from momma.

>>519869913
> psychiatry existing as a political tool to destroy white people

This also https://forward.com/news/103139/psychotherapys-jewish-roots/?amp=1

>>519868543
Cause and effect. Genetics fags BTFO unless it's learned behavior from the grandparents.

>>519868543
It's vaccines and inflammatory goyslop

>>519870940
>How is it cope that I loved my broken mother and realized it was MY attitude and perception of things that was wrong? How is it cope to see a mistake and correct it? That's literally the opposite. You're just a pussy and want to be a victim.

Nta, but I don't think you are coping I think you are doing the opposite, of accepting. I think you were a victim, but that was past-tense. Even victims need to move on to surviving, and then living, and then thriving.

It's a process. I think the people giving you shit are at the part of the process where they've yet to go from victimhood to survival. Try not to hate em for it bro, you were there too, we all were at one point. I'm glad you loved your mom. I understand what it's like to know the humanity in the person who hurts you. But their own madness cages their own soul behind a barrier and all you can do is watch. It's rough man. Anyway God bless you

>>519872047
He literally said the opposite you dumb monkey retard. The difference between you and him is that he realized his shitty upbringing doesn't have to destroy the rest of his life and that he can be happy in spite of it, while you prefer to waddle in self-contempt and blame everything on your parents

>>519873873
ISTPD for several years, its intended to be short term but can be used for lonegr if you can deal with its intensity.
Thats said, bascially all relevant studies agree that having a therapist you vibe with is the number one decisive factor in success and far more important than the chosen modality.
A ton of people who go off on therapy being useless think therapists are like surgeons where you can have any somewhat competent guy work with you, but thats not the case. Therapy with someone you can't really form a relationship with is often useless.

>>519870509
>simp protecting a woman who abused him

Typical and this why you will never understand that women are the problem in this situations

>>519875086
>Therapy with someone you can't really form a relationship with is often useless.

Often but not always mind you. Sometimes the best therapy is where the person deliberately chooses a therapist who embodies discomfort. For example, someone who has a fear of women or distrust for women due to being abused by women, would do well to pick a female therapist to help push comfort zones. Same's true for guys who are too closed off from other men and fear other men, they should pick a male therapist.

>>519870767
> Ok I'll spell it out for those that can't read. Love conquers all. Simple shit that's been known for forever.


Go back to plebbit you massive soiboi cuck

>>519875210
He's not a simp, he's a son. He is simply accepting no matter what he will always be her son. He is half of who and what she is, genetically and psychologically. And he does the right thing by choosing to honor her, in spite of what she may have done to him. Because if you spite your parent, you will spite yourself. That's why it's important to always honor your mother and father, even if one or both has done nothing but dishonor you. Because if you choose to dishonor them in return, you become exactly like they are. And the cycle never gets broken.

That anon had the balls to break the cycle, I say hats off to him.

>>519869720
You're too stupid to be affected by it.

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>>519875740
>*They are too stupid to be affected by it
Fuck me

>>519870940
> How is it cope that I loved my broken mother and realized it was MY attitude and perception of things that was wrong? How is it cope to see a mistake and correct it? That's literally the opposite. You're just a pussy and want to be a victim.


I bet you would be trashing her if she was you father because truth be told your going easy on her because she’s a woman so you need to stop being a pussy and blame your mom

>>519873816
Deal with what exactly? What is the specific problem? The mother was the problem and perhaps she still is if she continues her behaviour. What is the problem with the "autistic" son? What does that even mean?

>>519873115
> which is why you're going to start seeing a lot of experimental treatment for PTSD with super low doses of party drugs from the 70s.


Jew drugs and medicine isn’t gonna fix anything and everything they claim can be falsified or fake because they control the industry

>>519870509
My parents were horrible human beings and I'm better because of it. I'm literally a better human being that 99.99999% of the people on the planet.

>>519877176
Not to mention that everything can be leveraged against you at a later date, even by the therapist themselves when you broach the inherently illegal nature of an abusive childhood and your involvement in it. The moment you are diagnosed with a "disorder" (not conforming to an established order) then you have been labeled as dysfunctional to the system at large. Seems minor until you get a divorce and that emergency room prescription you forgot about is now legal grounds for you to lose children or money you may or may not have.

Fundamentally the design of "therapy" in the modern world is to either plug you back into a job, or escalate more intense diagnoses of mental disorders/call the police on you for psychologically opposing the established "order" you are against.

>>519877827
The order you are against by THE VERY NATURE OF YOUR EXISTENCE

>>519868543
Am autistic, had a very loving mother. This theory is nonsense. Autism is genetic.

>>519875086
The irony of this thread is that the therapist is a replacement of people you "vibe with" for free. It is not supposed to cost anything or require schooling for a healing conversation with someone to occur. The people you "vibe with" are your FAMILY, the same ones that were psychologically broken by the system attempting to "fix" them with conformity.

>>519868543
This crap was debunked ages ago.
>>519872540
Based.

>>519869720
this >>519875740/>>519875888
The higher the intelligence, the higher the prevalence of neurodivergence gets and the higher the intensity too (i.e. how much your brain being wired different affects you in and of itself). I sometimes wonder whether true intelligence is in effect a form of neurodivergence in and of itself. I would caveat this doesn't apply to neurodivergent conditions which explicitly make you retarded obviously, only ones that makes you "different".

>>519868543
Breaking news: Mothers with autism more likely to have kids with autism

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>>519868543
>died before experiencing love
>died before anything happened
>died before his time
RIP Chuddie, you will always have a special place in our hearts.

>>519878678
Intellect is built upon traumas during adolescence. It’s basically like figuring out what you did wrong then trying to craft your future rather than brute force it. Every time something bad happens, a person asks themselves “why?”

Autism doesn’t exist. It’s intellectually dishonest to put someone who’s a great painter, musician, or someone who pays attention to detail on the same spectrum as a drooling retard who’s factory settings broken. “Autism” is just someone being awkward or having a hobby, and god forbid someone has taste. The social awkwardness is just a sign of prior abuse and trauma. Kind of like how an animal acts strange after abuse. Nobody is born with it. It can also be treated with self improvement or therapy.

The main reason autism is talked about so much these years is to essentially shame people who may be quirky. It’s propaganda to make women avoid the quirky men. No matter how much “awareness” and tolerance is pushed, a woman has been conditioned to think that a smart, creative, or quirky man is genetically bad and should be avoided.

>>519878678
Very interesting theory. Another one I like is that so called "autists" are really just "people" with older rh negative neanderthal dna. In other words autists are HIGH IQ PRIMAL CHADS

Therapy, university, and their codependent systems of civilization SEETH and COPE at this very simple fact they prefer to ignore. Remember, they diverged FROM US, not the other way around. Everything has been inverted and their "solutions" are fundamentally a reverse uno card in the game they neurodiverged to create called "civilization" (which requires domestication aka stupid dna)

>>519879816
Bullshit it’s vaccine damage or severe parental neglect or abuse.

>>519878323
>The irony of this thread is that the therapist is a replacement of people you "vibe with" for free.

Hes not. Other people will not put their own selves aside to exclusively focus on your (emotional) needs. A good therapist basically knows how to turn himself into a reflective surface that shows you your own inner world, combined with an ability to call you out on your own bullshit.
Thats not something a family provides.

>The people you "vibe with" are your FAMILY

The vast majority of people who require therapy have issues precisely because their family failed to be a safe environment. They are generally the last persons who can resolve their issues at any point.
Also, as a grown up you are supposed to seek out your own relationships, whether friends or romantinc in nature. If you find your family being your primary social contacts as an adult, something went wrong.

>>519875236
>where the person deliberately chooses a therapist who embodies discomfort.

Any good therapy will contain a measure of discomfort, as its all about facing the emotions you suppressed and avoided yourself.
In your example, a good female therapist will be warm and supportive to allow healing by creating a different kind of relationship than you were used to.

>>519879816
Intellect is genetic and genetics may simply be an intermediary for a soul, but since you studied psychology at university lets stick to the materialist approach.

Your thinking is feminine since you pander to the accused with word salad before addressing the root causes. You blame the jewish media for brainwashing the women instead of addressing the core issue: the incentive structure for power. When a man has alot of nice things women will overlook nearly anything bad about him, even if it goes against her conditioning. Women have been programmed to survive on money and expect the man to pay.

Intelligence is fundamentally natural, primal, and PREDATORY (pre-date-ory) which is why society is built from the ground up to eliminate or control the intelligent predators. The real cause of so called "autism" is not being explored here thus by anyone other than me.

Reply to something with my post id next time. I am happy to communicate without the veil of deceit. At this point the abusive mother angle is done though but we can still chat :)
Daily reminder: tits or gtfo.

>>519876593
>The mother was the problem and perhaps she still is if she continues her behaviour.

The problem is that the mother is not the problem, as her son is grown up and no longer dependent on her in any way. It means to not avoid responsibility by shifting blame onto the mother, but by moving on, acknowledging taht she fucked up in the past but that this does not force you to perpetuate her bullshit on yourself as a grown up.
Essentially grieve that his mom wasn't what she was supposed to be, then close that chapter of his life and move on to greener pastures without being weighed down by the past.

>>519879816
The root cause of social awkwardness is genetic superiority, which must be balanced with severe abuse, gangstalking, and social engineering. The autism propoganda is a minor factor of sexual success relative to these other issues. The real causes of these maladjusted behaviors are entirely covert, and even those who participate dont comprehend the purpose or extent, and anybody at any level gets labeled "schizo" for noticing, another fundamental tactic to mitigate the extremely perceptive/psychic. It gets so bad that a victim may have to pretend they notice someone is a perp who isnt, or vice versa as a futile attempt to manipulate complex social outcomes to the victims favor.

Your primary failure in thought here, besides being a woman, is you have a strong fundamental belief that "society good" and you are "part of society" which grounds your ego to its neurodivergent paradigm.

My parents were like the best you could ask for and I ended up autistic and isolated anyway.

>>519882232
>failed to be a safe environment
You want to fix a civilization that is fundamentally designed as a safe space from the highly intelligent.

>grown up seek your own relationships
>ignores gangstalkers preventing anons from forming organic relationships ona consistent and lifelong basis

See my other post>>519882271

Also, address my concerns here>>519877827

>Jewish by birth, Bettelheim...

>>519879816
Your empathy towards us feels good
though and I feel bad attacking you considering that part of you exists. Maybe instead of a therapist you can be my warm and supportive girlfriend to allow healing by creating a different kind of relationship than I am used to.>>519882232

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>>519882232
>Thinks grown ups with their FAMILY as primary contact is a bad thing
>cant see past the modern world and its economic goals
>inb4 getajob

>>519882232
>a good therapist is a mirror
>cannot fathom the others position despite having plenty of data

>>519868776
Same.
Narcissists and not specifically psychopaths, but cluster B generally applies.
Due to my circumstances I got diagnosed because my parents were abusing me and the psychiatrist wanted to help me get out of that situation. I didn't have Asperger's, he wrote it down and signed it and everything, but he gave the paperwork so it's easier to get help.
He told my parents something similar, he just didn't mention the abuse. "School is a pain in the ass and will look for trouble so here's paperwork but shut the fuck up about it, he doesn't have this condition".
First thing my mother did was call the family to tell everyone I have autism and need to be left alone at birthdays and parties.
She took everything away. All the love and support was gone, they never questioned her.
Meanwhile she bragged every week at the dinner table about how she had "helped" me with something, how she mentioned it to a colleague and got praise for doing that. I don't even have a condition that needed help.
In fact she gave me a condition. PTSD, self-righteous anger, call it whatever the niggerfuck you like, it doesn't matter.
There's nothing more subhuman than the human race, and she's to thank for that perspective. So are all the other adults. I was 10 at the time and put the knife away from my throat when I was 11. Should've pussied in and slit the artery. There's no balls or machismo in enduring the torment, it's pointless.

Anyway I started telling this story now to build to my experience in special education (where my mother forced me to go).
Everyone there was abused. Some were raped, almost all were beaten, and everyone got talked down to by their (usually single) moms like they're lapdogs or cattle.
They got diagnosed up the ass with ADHD, spergers, PDD-NOS, all the shit. Everything except "dude got ploughed by his mom with a hammer handle". Might as well be literal.
Everything except putting the guilt where it is, with the shitty parents.
Fuck psychiatry.

>>519868543
For me it was my pops, he was not very good with children at all and really just screamed and unloaded his rage on us so much and so unfairly, just dehumanized us and didn’t have patience for children. Also went on into my early and mid teen years.
For some reason when I became an older teen and young adult it feels like I finally got “humanized” by him more, still could be strict and scream his head off at times but less so, I remember, than when I was a scared and upset child.

>>519869872
The #1 visual symptom of Asperger's is social nervousness, which is typically seen in people who absolutely do not trust anybody.
But because most spergs are diagnosed as little kids, the only people who can really sow that distrust are parents, people so intimately close to them that when their trust bond is violated and broken, nothing will ever repair it.

Psychiatrists do like blaming victims, you know. It gets them paid at the end of the day.

>>519871773
And when you say "my mom was severely bipolar", you take that past fact and make it a present moment fact.
You're bringing it into the now.
You do that every single time you tell the story.
Saying it's all in the past is irrelevant when you keep bringing it up.
You're scapegoating your own self-sabotaging attitude. That was your survival mechanism at the time, blaming yourself in some way for not being able to correct or fix her problems for her.
You still blame yourself to this day. It's no wonder you don't see a tomorrow, tomorrow's just another day where you being the past into the now.

>>519868543
I ended up autistic because both my parents were over 25 and doctors told pregnant women to take Tylenol. There was a lot of conflict and shouting in my household and that probably didn’t help my irritability around noise.

>>519885353
I just blew a fat load of cum down my sink drain. It was so thick and creamy because of what you wrote that I actually had to scrape at the little holes of the drain grate to allow the thick seminal consistency to pass through and clog something later down the line.
>not my problem
>well written fanfic

>>519885486
I wasn’t diagnosed until I was an adult. The reason us spergs are nervous socially is because every time we speak our thoughts the room breaks out in laughter. I was bullied severely for having an adult vocabulary as a child. My parents were the ones who encouraged me to learn new and complex words. They were proud of it. It was the other kids who called me gay for using college level verbiage in middle school.

The serious abuse stops when you start lifting weights and threatening to kick your parent's ass around 14 years old.
Yes they will call the cops and make up lies, but the people at the mental hospital are cool besides the fact you can't leave until you're done being evaluated.

I became a drop out, free loader, drug user, grower, and got saved by finding cryptography and fintech start ups 15 years ago.

>>519869832
>It has to be one thing. JUST ONE THING. Couldn't also be something else too. It has to be that ONE thing.
Don't know if that technically counts as black-or-white thinking but especially 'murcs struggle badly with pretty much anything multifactorial. For them, every single issue must have one cause and nothing else.
>>519870185
>schizoid personality disorder
Schizophrenia and Schizotypal disorders have also been previously argued to be caused by distant mothering.

>>519879816
>Autism doesn’t exist.
It's a legal definition more than anything else.
>It’s intellectually dishonest to put someone who’s a great painter, musician, or someone who pays attention to detail on the same spectrum as a drooling retard who’s factory settings broken.
It's medically useless and scientifically incoherent, but again, that's irrelevant because a psychiatric diagnosis isn't meant to explain stuff but to roll out treatment plans which, surprise, feed million dollar industries. For autism in the USA, that's applied behavioral analysis which is inefficient, but surprise, generates lots of money and is pretty much owned and operated by hedgefund managers like Blackrock which, surprise again, also rolled out Trump's presidency. That's why they are also pushing this whole 'autism epidemic' thing to justify a major cash grab based on reclassifying generic intellectual disability as autism. Next time you go to a special school or what not (could be because of your child) just ask around how many of these obvious Downies are passed off as autistic. It's a lot.

>>519868543
The important thing is to clear away the muck of unnecessary overspecific verbiage. The term "autism" will no longer be used. Mental retardation at birth or in infancy, advanced chronic mental illness due to habitual poor health and circumstances, poor social skills, and measurably bad emotional intelligence are all completely different phenomena that are clearly defined, there's no need for a catch all term. Everything is a combination of those things. Social and emotional skills are worshipped by normies as genetic, but that's a half-truth at best, the remaining determinism is supplied by vicious cycles of bias as stated in OP.
>>519879816
holy based anon

>>519883366
Gate symptoms? Eye color? Blood type?

>>519869578
That could just as easily be hereditary tho.

>>519879816
> Autism doesn’t exist. It’s intellectually dishonest to put someone who’s a great painter, musician, or someone who pays attention to detail on the same spectrum as a drooling retard who’s factory settings broken
They rolled us all together to inflate the numbers and get more funding for research and treatment. The odds of being born autistic went from 1/100,000 to 1/30 in a couple of decades. It was also to discredit Dr. Hans Asperger, who wanted to kill low functioning autists for being a drain on resources. While the high functioning aspires became researchers.

>>519868776
This is an interesting take

Don't forget lack of bullying.

>>519872540
I like you. You are smart. Well written and concealed. But my god, use periods. All your mirroring misses the mark slightly to alot>>519888190
but im seriously impressed. Im glad we can use our words better moving forward than just "autism"

>>519868543
I prefer non existent father theory

>>519890864
Why not both parents in a feedback loop?

>>519868543
dead mother complex is more interesting

>>519883251
>The root cause of social awkwardness is genetic superiority, which must be balanced with severe abuse, gangstalking, and social engineering
can you elaborate here - are you saying that intelligent people who display benign (but nonetheless, uncommon) 'abnormality' get automatically bullied by 'normal' people instinctively, and that this process has actually been deliberately engineered by some kind of higher power in order to keep the 'abnormal' individuals down? or am I misunderstanding your point.

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>>519868543
I think what's throwing the discussion ITT off is that, fundamentally
1. "Autism" as a concept is oversimplified at worst and downright useless at best - it's really such a wide spectrum of symptoms and behaviours, each of which could all come from such wildly different sources (everything from straight up chemical damage during pregnancy to hormonal imbalance to childhood abuse and all kinds of other shit)

2. I personally believe that the same external pressures can have radically different effects on different individuals, i.e. not every child will react to an abusive parent or an absent mother in the same way making it useless to go "oh well the primary cause of autism is an absent mother" because that's only relevant to SOME kids. This also somewhat applies to trauma as the cause of antisocial behaviour where you simultaneously see people with traumatic backgrounds allowing themselves to be bad people (continuing the cycle of violence) or deliberately choosing to be bad people (stopping the cycle of violence), and BOTH would trace that back to having been traumatised.

3. Ultimately, psychology/psychiatry are unbelievably young as fields of research go. If you took most medical fields at the same age you'd be going back to literal ancient times. Psychology is at the same stage of development as a field right now as disease theory was in ancient greece. Moreover, although this is true of most medical fields, psychology is uniquely impacted by an inability to study the actual process leading to the effects we see externally - more than nearly any other medical field it's entirely made up of "well we gave them [stimulus] and we got [response], no idea what the connection is though". Most antidepressants and mental health meds in general these days are retardedly crude (and retardedly retarded) in their application.

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>>519895505
if you want concrete answers into your state of mind, my personal advice would be
1. look at the lived experience of people who are "like you" and what helped them
2. look into religion and philosophy which provide logically sound ways of examining good living
3. look into neuroscience which, although also a young field, is heavily based in empirical rigour and doesn't suffer from the same unhinged quackery as psychiatry/psychology do, and as such offers far more "scientific" answers to how our brains work

The AI industry owes us a machine that can give basic social skills to the antisocial.

>>519868543
>autistic
>negligent parents
Tracks.

>>519869832
>>519871780
They also have a more robust social network. Church, outdoors, and so on.

>>519885353
>Fuck psychiatry.
What for? The guy tried to help,but its obvious that hes a Psychiatrist, not a Psychotherapist. The two are very different, a Psychiatrist is just a doctor who prescribes medications and deals with hormonal imbalances and such, not an expert on the mind.
Giving an abusive mother a great weapong to fuck you up even further in the form of that diagnosis was very stupid, but it is very common to underestimate such people unless you have made a dedicated study of personality disorders.

>There's nothing more subhuman than the human race, and she's to thank for that perspective.
That is sad. But perhaps do ask yourself whether you want her to shape your perception of other humans for the rest of your life. Your mind is stuck in what happened in the past, but nowadays you are in control yourself and it is up to you how your life continues. For example by getting help to get over what happened.

>>519897286
>They also have a more robust social network.

They are a stereotypical cult. Rest assured that they will have this stuff going on as well and perhaps even worse as your family literally owns you, but they will make damn sure that none of it ever is heard of in wider society. Especially as escaping is far harder as with the more new age cults that generally recruit from people who had a normal life at some point, whose families are not bound to the gurus over generations.

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>>519868543
>>519868776
you are over the target

>>519882271
>>519890785

You tagged one of my posts. Rereading the thread I see what you were getting at, you're saying multiple posters are one guy communicating with you. At the risk of jumping to a crazy conclusion, I think you're having a bout of paranoia. Eat some red meat or B vitamins and read the thread with fresh eyes tomorrow.

nah, it's normalfaggot bullshit
they cannot comprehend that someone doesn't get of real life as normalfaggots do, so they construct cope theories

>>519901529
I'm autistic and I'm sure she loved you. I've been autistic since I was born. My mom tried her best and I'm still autistic.


I've been autistic since I was born

>>519885471
damn bro, sounds exactly like my dad, screamer
would rough me up in the backyard spank me really hard
for minor infractions
he was not pleasable and i was always the problem
classic narcissist

>>519869720
You need to be smart to be autistic
Niggers literally lack the intelligence

>>519872540
yeah, i feel that one hundred percent
been surrounded by midwits bullying me my whole life

>>519904068
I've met a few black autists and there are plenty of dumb-as-shit autists of all races

Not all autists are smart

Haha we all have mother issues...wait

>>519869578
They're being raped as children. Huge numbers of women are demonic cultists.

>autist means you don't get on socially
so if you train them how to act socially, they just can't listen?
>no, but no one wants to train them because they're annoying
chicken and egg

>>519875451
Shut the fuck up you disgusting fucking whore.

>>519906376
>social
not going to simp for good goy points from midwits

>>519906669
uh oh, anon's a genetic defective. Abort him.

>>519906747
go ahead and try to abort me

>>519875236
>men MUST have women in their life
You wouldn't give this advice to a woman who was raped you dumb cunt, then you you'd demand men part like the red sea from her path so as not to inflame her trauma.

>>519868543
Fucking probably. This actually makes me angry. I'm struggling in life and my mother still doesn't seem to give a shit after fucking me up. Fuck. I feel like I never had a chance at life and I'm doomed to live a miserable existence. This is the reason I support antinatalism. Not because I think people should stop reproducing completely, but some people definitely should not have children. We should even have laws and licensing for procreation. Not everyone should be legally allowed to produce children. We have laws and licensing for vehicles and guns, but not for bringing a human life into existence. Its fucked up. Not everyone should be allowed to have children, just like not everyone should legally be allowed to own guns and drive vehicles.

>>519882369
>not avoid responsibility by shifting blame onto the mother
The amount of writhing and wriggling you whores do to escape accountability for your fucked up actions is horrifying and disgusting.

>>519904068
>>519904802
High-functioning autism (Aspergers) and low-functioning """autism""" (retardation) basically don't belong on the spectrum. The jewish psychiatry complex purposefully tried muddying the waters by getting rid of the Aspergers diagnosis a couple years back

Varg is right when he says Spergs are superior, a sperg-lead society would literally colonize Mars

>>519907404
sounds like you had a rough childhood. i get it
the thing thats surprising to you is your mom doesnt seem to care
its worse anon
she gets off seeing you miserable and weak
i know, its hard to think about, but i had to realize
my own family made me weak and hates seeing me strong
look into pathological projective identification
the target is made to actually embody physical weakness
so that the transference from the abuser to victim
is compelling to the abuser
its really fucked i know, but abusers jolt their victims
to see the weakness responses in them
learned helplessness, sadness, etcetera
they are sadistic anon, it gets them off

>>519907586
>*don't belong on the same spectrum

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>>519868543
No it's because all you had was your mother.

>>519906979
it's for the greater good 'autist'

>>519907586
real aspergers syndrome isn't what I'd call high functioning autism. Probably an infant development thing.

>>519907814
according to who? some order following "expert"
no thanks, ill keep my life and you can fuck off
they can give me a state mandated wife if they are so concerned

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>>519907814
>it's for the greater good
Now I can't remember exactly where I've heard this before, but I know that every single time I hear it it's a clown saying it.

>>519907404
you know damn well the jews would exploit any licensing system to eliminate whites and encourage niggers to have 32 kids from 40 different baby daddies.

>>519874850
What are the odds that someone suffering abuse is going to be happy, and how many of the abused people that are unhappy now only have themselves to blame for being unhappy?

Can anyone that correctly applies himself (if he can apply himself correctly, that is) be happy and successful? Don't forget your a Belgian replying to a Brazilian on /pol/. Imagine being a weirdo pol user in fucking Brazil where many people don't even have the money for a smartphone.

The guy is intelligent as well, being self-aware enough to analyze his life... imagine that intelligence amidst feral favelaniggers.

So how do you know his unhappiness is his own fault? And that we shouldn't blame the parents, that moving forward doesn't equal happiness.

And for all you know, he is moving forward, he doesn't care about his upbringing anymore, and your just judging his thoughts on the subject. Victims should have the right to be the way they are, they have no obligation to society to be strong enough to both endure the trauma and to overcome it. They can be a burden to the system if the system can not take care of them and also doesn't do anything to prevent abuse from happening (the system rewards psycho's and narcissists).

So a lot of critique your most likely going to see as passive agressiveness and brush off as being onions, but I just wanted to inform you of another perspective because many people here are victim blaming without even realizing it.
"Just be stronger bro, you have no other choice anyway"

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>mom was cold to me
>get autism
>now get to collect autism bux
thanks mom (I want to die every day)

>>519868543
No fucken shit, sherlock!! Almost EVERY modern day three and/or four-letter diagnosis has just been a permanent cope to justify the behaviour of dysgenic, narcissistic, rotten women so that they can pass on their terrible genes and also so big pharma and government has a healthy supply of medically & emotionally traumatised “disposable” children to groom for whatever purpose the cunts may have, usually school shootings & false flags. Fuck this fake & gay world, start the fucken war already

>>519908908
how much mijn neger

do you also work?

>>519869832
It's a multi-faceted issue, like jews, for example.

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>both parents physically present but otherwise absent from life
>get diagnosed with assburger in 20s
>get NEETbux
I'm fairly sure my life will end with me blowing my brains out

I read the Rock's dad was homeless from 13 and didn't show affection towards him. Fast forward to now, they fell out on a christmas eve then the old man died a month later. The article was all about wishing he could clear the air, sad shit. Even a millionaire can't go back and fix things. Once you set grown-up boundaries with family the way you would with any other person, anything is possible. I think.

>>519870767
Have you considered that maybe we already know that and that's why we're saying that a lack of love messed with out heads as kids? Fuckhead.

>>519870940
You are a broken man.

The older I get and more comfortable I get with myself, the more I realize how terrible my immediate family was growing up.

>>519871454
You only love and forgive her because she's dead. If she was alive and being an evil witch as she was you'd have a different opinion. But because you'll never know if she COULD have changed you just assume that she WOULD have changed.

You have stockholm syndrome nigger.

>>519909525
welcome to the club brother
they still covertly abuse me if i allow them

>>519868543
no
parents that are too indulging/loving of the child is what causes it to be a problem
a good set of parents will recognize the problem early and make extra effort to socialize the child instead of just saying "oh, he's just different, but he's still a great boy"

>>519909654
>efforts to socialize
more blaming the victim, and you are also gaslighting
by saying these kids had "everything given to them"
you are probably one of the abusive parents

>>519909654
don't equate laziness and love nigger

you were neglected under the guise of love, I call it watering the plant

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>>519909254
Statistically speaking, someone with aspergers is (iirc) 8x more likely than the normie to commit suicide, or maybe it's 4x. Either way you'd better harden your heart before you end up blasting your brains out
>t. Severely suicidal for the past decade and feel utterly disconnected from everyone and everything

>>519869720
You are misinformed.
> Recent data shows higher autism prevalence among minority children in the US compared to non-Hispanic White children. Black, Asian, and Hispanic children had higher overall prevalence rates (3.66%, 3.82%, and 3.30%, respectively, in 2022) than White children (2.77%), and Asian/Pacific Islander children and Black children had the highest estimates in some reports.

>>519875451
>That's why it's important to always honor your mother and father, even if one or both has done nothing but dishonor you. Because if you choose to dishonor them in return, you become exactly like they are. And the cycle never gets broken.
>That anon had the balls to break the cycle, I say hats off to him.
Anon, fuck you.

Other anons, dont listen to this anon, going no contact and refusing to deal with their shit is based and redpilled.

>>519868776
It’s not necessarily parents being bad, if you get social rejection in school and early childhood it can snow ball to being socially undeveloped and ending up as a withdrawn loner “autist”. Autism is 100% environmental and a made up fake condition that is the result of being neglected or ostracized. The Amish have a 0% autism rate.

>>519875451
Raiden (from metal gear rising revengeance) would cut you into a thousand pieces. We are NOT the same. If you kill your enemy you do not become him, he just becomes dead. Stop trying to guilt trip the victims who are taking a stand against the bullshit. It is NOT BAD to fight back against and oppressor and to destroy them. You are not bad, you are not worse than them, you are protecting yourself.
And no little nigger faggot like you saying "you'll be just as bad as them if you return it in kind" is going to convince me otherwise.

You get what you fucking deserve.

>>519868543
Nah I was born autistic as fuck lineing all the toys in a straight long row

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>>519868543

When they do hybrids by artificial insemination the mother often has a catastrophic response to the pregnancy and birth, hating and then abandoning the child. Probably the response is instinctual because the child is not fully human. Later these children are often put into the autistic category

>>519909179
I have never had a job in my entire life. It seems unfeasible to me.

Also like 1400 eurodollars per month last time I checked.

>>519910315
Maybe you're just German?

>>519909584
It's honestly shocking how much happier and more capable I am now. I sometimes forget that I can actually just do things I want and don't have to depend on someone signing off on everything or risk being humiliated for saying or doing anything I want for myself.

>>519910833
glad to hear you are doing better
that gap between your expectations and your performance
is actually a sign of abuse
we need these relationships to survive
and the abuser only positively relates to us when we are entering
their manufactured frame of them being impervious and you being the source of problems
so when you agree to accept that identity of helpless or stupid
it affirms the role they assigned as scapegoat to you
the reason for their problems, even though they literally brought you into the world
they are basically emotionally/intellectually handicapped
and their child exposes that in them and this causes them infinite seethe

>>519910515
Plus the rental and healthcare subsidies.
It'll bring you up to minimum wage, roughly.
Not a bad gig, even if one spends every day wishing he wasn't born.

Watch We Need To Talk About Kevin

My mother died when I was 3 so I don't remember anything as far as I know. My dad was a good provider but not really involved other than screaming and making threats. Emotional abuse like that is probably worse than just getting smacked around. Also didn't guard his porn collection well at all so having access to hardcore porn at like 7 when a Playboy was a rare even fucked me up lol. Not autistic but am a sociopath neet for sure so who knows

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>>519868543
I would generally oppose the pathologization of a functional person’s mental idiosyncrasies. Seems to me to be a waste of time to ascribe an autism diagnosis to someone who is properly functioning in society (or outside of it, really), and high rates of comorbidity with other psychiatric conditions if a person has one condition suggests it’s essentially impossible to ever see a “pure” strain of the so-called illness anyway. People say I’m autistic: I’m a functional individual by any account outside of social idiosyncrasies. Trying to diagnose what works is laughable. Autism panic is an attempt of the average person to justify why they can’t achieve anything, because a great portion of intelligent people they’ve heard of have different behaviors from them. I’m sure they’re exonerated in their own minds, but in reality, they’ll just be as mundane as they ever were.

>>519911111
I still live at home. I've been waiting on getting a house for like 8 years. Also checked

>>519911111
Why do you lament your birth? Because your a loner? An incel?

Not like I'm any better being on 4chan 5 in the morning.

But just curious. Hypocritically I would recommend you spend time in nature, try to achieve enlightenment, play games and do interesting stuff that require tons of time.

Maybe your just depleted of energy/excitatory potentional, and that makes life seem bleak? A good meditation practice or inhibiting lifestyle could allow you to regenerate perhaps? Nervous system energy is a real thing that precedes other energy systems in the body Imo.

>>519868543
You have to get over it. I'm sorry. Even if you stay sulking about it, eventually you'll wake up an old man and no relationship with your parents but still seething about it. Even if you hate them, freeing yourself from the emotion is the only liberation or revenge you can get.

>>519912021
i still have a relationship with my father, my mom is dead
i just realize he is an emotionally stunted man with a lot of money
i dont hate him, i pity him and his flying monkeys

>>519912105
we get along pretty good actually, its just that i know
all the abuse he has committed against me
and this forever taints his reputation
he didn't have to be a monster and he never apologized for it

All these theories are bullshit bro. I know because my brother in law killed himself and then his son grew up to be EXACTLY like him. He died when the son was just a baby.

Genetics predetermine your personality to an absolutely shocking degree

>>519909525
same lol, my mom hid that she got a borderline pd diagnosis done (she's a light case thankfully) until i was in my 30s. checked it out and was like yeah it tracks.
my dad was pretty distant unless it was time to blame me for something.

>>519868776
Now that I think about it, my clearly autistic friends' parents were all absolute psycho retards. One friend who's parents were the worst, has 2/2 clearly autistic siblings too

>>519910090
>It’s not necessarily parents being bad,
If your parents can't see a problem like that happening and didn't prepare you for it then they don't love you.
Just how awful do you have to be to see that your kid has been depressed for years, has no friends and spends his time avoiding people and not do anything about it? Turns out, extremely fucking awful.

>>519912792
it makes perfect sense
>parents are fucking insane out of touch with themselves homo economicusmaxers
no wonder the kids go crazy they aren't seen heard or responded to as
actual present humans
they are treated as productive units in a cult
by brainwashed emotionally crippled parents
under the best case scenario

>>519912326
Das rite, nobody ever changes except through trauma. You can't change in a good way, only bad.

>>519912326
ironically if he had known his father he would've differentiated himself more. Genetics determines everything heretofore, the only thing it doesn't control is how life actually plays out.

>>519873767
>Around here, any neonatal surgeryhappens under anaesthezia like you'd expect.
Yeah and the baby still gets a burning dick for months after the procedure and then gets PTSD at a young age when he realizes that he was raped with a knife as a baby and will forever look and feel mutilated.
Kill yourself kike.

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>>519869720
I was one of 8 kids on my street that was locked in a small room with no windows, only to go to school. Fucked me up. Glad I broke the cycle by not having kids.

>>519868543
mummy here. i was only a cunt because you were a little sperg shithead that done nuthin good now fuck off.

>>519868543
Yes, and I have the same issue. It's a product of sexual liberation + state overreach and malice.
>Neglectful women do what they want
>The state doesn't stop them
>The state stops you from ensuring other children aren't hurt by neglectful women once you get big enough to fight.
Solution is to force women to treat their children correctly by law. If they don't, we take away their right to vote and put them through a program which erases their ability to lash out and have routine drug therapy to ensure they don't conspire against their husbands and children. Humans are logical creatures, meaning everything we abuse people intentionally. If a woman can't nurture a kid tha she chose to bring into the world or go without having extramarital sex, her human rights should be void.

>>519911552
I've been waiting for 13 years. Youth housing got me out of hell though. Those are temporary contracts, they worked out for me.

>>519911708
Because every bit of suffering so far has been redundant, unnecessary and rather irrelevant.
I've been doing a lot of meditating and spiritual work, channeling and doing all kinds of wholesome good non-wicca things.
My mother's a self-professed Wicca so I stay as far as fuck away from that shit. She used it against me.
But I do use crystals and all that.
In the process of reaching enlightenment (a journey, not a destination) I've learned that all the harm people did to me wasn't to make me stronger, but happened because I already was stronger in some way and inadvertently exposed their weaknesses.
Then I looked at the world around me and saw that no matter how much I heal for my sake, how much I improve myself for my sake, even if it's all to ultimately be of service to others, everyone will simply project their own imagination onto me and get offended, annoyed and aggressive when they find out I'm not like that.
In other words, the healing is just as irrelevant and frankly unnecessary as the suffering is, at least for concepts like "the greater good".

All there really is to achieve is peace within the self, and peace for the self from the self and peace with nature.
But if, as so many people incessantly claim, the purpose of life is to learn, to experience, and to suffer, then life itself is ultimately irrelevant, and birth is the original sin.
But that perspective, that is the path of the Jew. I don't like it one bit.

And then I look around me again, and everyone's merrily and ignorantly moving on with life as if everything's fine, getting married, having kids, celebrating their religious community at everyone's expense, and I'm left stuck in a mental loop.

Perhaps simply being is good enough.
It has been, for me.
People around me? They can't stand it. My life's so limited now, it might as well be dead.

>>519914397
Be emotionally distant and in a state where you've given up on the world, yet loving as a state of being, not something you extend to others but something that simply is and naturally flows.

Basically, being empathetic without trying, being so peaceful you reflect everything back. You don't try to gain insight or you don't try to empathize, yet you understand. You seem cold and distant, yet you care.

I guess this is how Jesus did it. So you don't do it to help others, more so in service of God. Replace "god" with your own definition of Nirvana or whatever. And I'm religious so saying this goes against my own beliefs too, but I do see 99% similarities between any spiritual teachings that stood the test of time.

You basically are, like a sun, and that is enough. It's warmth and empathy without trying. I do believe that cold, autistic spergs are actually meant to be like this, that their coldness is not an emotional unavailability but more so a deeper state of empathy and love that needs to be developed. A calm way of being emotional, from the perspective of a normie, instead of being robotic. It's actually much more sensitive than what any normie can imagine, but it can only exist on a higher plane of spirituality so an underdeveloped sperg will come over as weird or "gay" if they express their love.

It needs to be bold and careless.

I'm still a fuckup but this is my current framework I'm trying to work in. I do think im inbetween a failed normie and sperg. Not that smart either, probs ~115iq.

>>519914397
>>519914853
So yeah I would like your idea and sorry if I come over as "giving advice". It's what normies do the moment they believe you have an issue they can help with lmao, can't help it myself.

>>519868543
Autism is a broad classification for a large amount of anomalities unrelated to each other.

>>519880040
This is something brought up even as far back as The Epic of Gilgamesh
Urbanites are deranged and we have thousands of years to prove this

Mom is a typical boomer narcissist. I’m a late 30s wifeless loser. Not a Virgin and have somewhat decent job but am definitely socially retarded

>>519868543
Nobody put more effort into getting me to come out of myself than my mother.

>>519869720
They target white people with the most toxic vaccine batchs since the 70s, plus chemtrails in rural white population, contraceptive drugs, psychiatric drugs, tylenol... all of these have an influence, but the family environment during childhood has zero impact on autism rate.
ADHD/Autism is just biological sabotage, not a normal social phenomenon.

>bruno Bettelheim
>jew
>psychoanalyst
>Some of his work was questioned after his death regarding academic credentials, patient abuse, and plagiarism, arising from a negligence of institutional oversight and pursuing work outside of the psychological community.

Come on, fella...

>>519909842
Read the Enneads
We are all here for a reason

>>519915076
Bingo.

Bump

>>519870509
Dude, self-hatred as a response to childhood trauma is a very common coping mechanism, you're essentially stockholm syndrome'd to love your mom/dad because in childhood you had no choice other than to love them, for your brain was scared of dying otherwise. The same mechanism works in other traumatized people, also works in religion.
>God you made me a sinner, I am flawed but I will be better
Youre not a bad person by necessity and usually most people are quite good.

>>519873341
Everyone who has BPD was abused in one form or another. Its a literal self defense mechanism of the mind.

>>519909525
It's true. And to be honest, I have been very unemotional for a long time, essentially I never really had much of an emotional response to most things, always swallowed my own tears, it was only in my mid twenties that I slowly realized I carry so much pain in me and a lot of anger because I was never really allowed to display these emotions in front of my mom, my father was not even in the picture after a few years of childhood and I never trusted him.

The worst part is how my family must seem to others as a good one, but I feel deeply hurt by my parents and my stepfather just allowed my mother to dissociate more from the life we used to live, same with my sister.

I realized I don't love my mother and that I dont feel her love at all.

I am surprised there is a thread about childhood trauma on pol of all places

>>519870509
you're a timid pushover rationalising your parent's abuse so you can go on not doing a damn thing about it. if someone hurts you, you should hurt them back. to hell with love and kindness.

>>519921562
Its not about hurting them back but about letting oneself heal. Causing others pain does not lessen your own pain, otherwise abusers would actually get better. They don't.

>>519921659
abusers are hurting others for the crimes of someone else that hurt them.
getting revenge on people that hurt you is actually great for the soul and i'm tired of pretending it's some bad thing. obviously don't go abusing some random person that doesn't deserve it, but if someone is hurting you, don't just lay back and let it happen. that's cuck shit.
if someone punches me i'm going to react violently. if someone disrespects me i'm going to stand up to that bastard.

>>519921860
cont
i've spent my entire life being timid and weak and i coped like you do with the whole "love thy enemies" bullshit too. the root cause of this is physical weakness. i was a skinnyfat nerd that allowed myself to be bullied and disrespected all through school because i was not physically capable of defending myself. humans are just animals. once i started lifting and training combat sports i no longer had a reason to be a pushover, and people stopped treating me like one.
in order to be kind one must first be capable of inflicting violence, then refuse to do so. if you cannot inflict violence, then not hurting others is not a conscious choice for you, it's a survival mechanism.

>>519868543
I have diagnosed autism. I never had a dad but I have the best mom in the world who was never cold to me

>>519894561
Ill elaborate: gangstalking is organized from somewhere by someone. Deliberately. Let me expound what I meant: exactly what I said.

Go look at a GATE thread if you are interested in brain sciences.

>>519922254
First of all I never said that you should just take abuse. I said it does not heal you. That is true.

Revenge almost never heals a person. Even the utmost revenge can not revert you back to a state prior to trauma.

I am not weak, I am in fact very strong, very muscular, very intelligent and also very capable of violence.

I do not however make the mistake of assuming I can track down every abuser and hurt them in a futile bid to reassert myself over them. I confront people who try to one up me, I confront people who disrespect me, I do not take abuse, I stand up for others as well.

Good luck

>>519906997
Not to mention that they fucking love getting raped. The ones most against rape are compensating for lack of masculine dominance in their life which horseshoe theorys to the other side of the duality. Like how wliberal women LOVE conservative men but pretend they hate it to protect their egos.

These shills give off educated psychologist vibes in their writing. They ignore the metaphysical differences between men and women in their formulations.

>>519869720
low IQ combined with low impulse control and a lack of self-reflection leads to low-inhibition behavior which you may interpret as "extroverted" or "non-autistic"

My mom was shaped like a refrigerator.

Reminder abortion lowers crime rates

>>519910433
What else is there to know about the hybrid program? What else does it explain?

>>519921077

Yeah who says I'm any better since I'm an unstable fucker who would snap if seriously disrespected.

>>519912457
My father would yell and beat me for not listening to my mother, who was more present and beat me worse/more frequently. She would basically psyop everyone who had power over me besides her to think I was "defiant" and constantly doing terrible things to justify her own actions towards me, encouraging them to do the same. Every morning going to school and any opportunity like a parent teacher conference was a nightmare. There was a strong psychological malice from her as well where she would actually directly psyop me to believe that other people, even strangers while we were in public, were thinking horrible things about me and "looking" at me while thinking these thoughts. Its incredibly painful and I think my gangstalkers have picked up and doubled down on this phenomena to jeep it going.

>>519925130
And then restrict, punish, and beat me until I "admitted" that it was my fault and APOLOGIZE to her and others for her false accusations. The feedback loop this creates in others and eventually even me was a NIGHTMARE.

>>519868776
This actually checks out based on my mother.
I'm extremely autistic and she got me a pet and killed it in front of me and ran me over with a car.
She use to hit her dogs with a middle ball bad and get a real wood one out for me.
I rmemeber my sister getting caught smoking once and she told my mom that I knew she smoked and didn't tell her. My mom took one of those old brick Gameboys and broke it over my head while I was asleep. I think I was 11.

She is a god fearing Christian and maga patriot. She was anti woke before woke was a thing and she would often force me to change off a TV channel of too many black people were on it.

I fantasized about killing her and still do. She was in the hospital once and started to have a allergic reaction to a medication. I left the room but my sister found her before she died.
I hate that women, but I love fucking chickens and data collection.
I'm a movie /film autist with a minor in political conspiracy.

>>519869720
All the minority kids I knew had really loving parents.

>>519923057
You give off incel retard vibes and I unironically think you should die because "men" like you are a scourge.

>>519912846
Same. They did some interesting bullshit when I started bawling from socially engineered abuse and their guilt driven solution was more social ostracism. Then they started planting gay friends to try and make me gay to cope. Fascinating behaviour from them.

>>519910090
The amish also have a 0% rate of psychopathy, narcissism and atheism, youre a goddamn retard.

>>519925501

Why blame people for being extremely bitter over women choosing evil sociopaths at all times? You see this especially with coal burners because of the type of negroid they prefer, hint: it's not the conscientious Urkel.

They love sociopathy and that's how they always get in a situation to be abused, even if they don't love the abuse itself, they love the effortless charm that genuine rapist abusers have (not incels, they just talk about rape, but never do it).

>>519925604
They literally don't test for it.
If we never tested for cancer, we would have a 0% cancer death rate.
Your either disingenuous or dumb. Either one allows me to kind of just dismiss anything else you say.
I live around and sometimes buy and sell to and from the Amish. I guarantee you they got autistic kids. They just call it the devil lol.

>>519886378
If you lack the social intelligence to know what type of vocabulary to use and with whom, you only have yourself to blame.
If you're trying to flex your latest thesaurus discoveries around a bunch of middle schoolers and niggers, then you should really learn to read the room.

>>519877421
either that or you are a narcissist

>>519925784
Nigga I literally called this guy out, why do you jump at my throat? I KNOW they dont test for shit and live in the fucking 1600s mentally, obviously they dont have these "modern" problems. The fact is they have problems but they ignore them because they have a lot of social cohesion which is like brute forcing problems to go away, of course problems will still be there and people suffer in ignorance. Not knowing you have cancer doesnt mean you wont die from it.

My point was that the fuckig canadian faggot was an idiot

>>519925764
What the fuck are you talking about? There are tons of women in my life and none of them fuck niggers, in fact almost every single woman hates criminals and niggers too. Most women are very racist. This is also why they avoid poor/ugly/hateful white retards usually, they smell trouble.

There are very few women who actually fuck blacks. Check the stats.

>>519925764
And I know women from tons of cultures and countries. They all hate Indians and Niggers, they may not say it out loud but they hate them and would never fuck any of them.

>>519868543
>negligent narcissistic mother gives me affection only when im sick or injured
>subconsciously think that getting ill is a good thing throughout the rest of my life
brains are weird

>>519925501
You give off bold and geniuine vibes. I am sorry for my harsh words. Thank you for being brave enough to call me out. I see the error in my ways now.

>>519885353
I went through that too, but probably worse... I don't talk about it much, even anonymously, but one of my parents was a shrink (and a cluster b malignant narcissist) and was in a codependent relationship with a psychologist who would prescribe anything she wanted, which was used punitively. the guy would come to christmas dinner and ask us about side effects over dinner in front of relatives.
I'm okay now, I don't have a lot of money and I'm not even financially stable but I have friends and a girlfriend and everything. This was only possible after cutting my family out of my life.

Long story short, SSRIs, SNRIs, and Amphetamines need to be banned for under 18s. Totally. Antipsychotics too for off label purposes, like schizophrenia only.

>>519926885
I swear to god even if youre just trying to be funny, just be a good human being and have decency and empathy and work on yourself, put some effort into your soul and your body and women will notice at some point if you let them. Stop being such a hateful, spiteful piece of shit who thinks its amazing that people get raped. You wouldnt want to be raped, even if you get off to it, an orgasm indicates very little. Most men throughout history were totally subjugated, no less than women really, there were always stronger and more powerful men (and most of them only controlled mechanisms of society and used nepotism eventually) who controlled the rest. Doesnt mean we want to be enslaved by jews either.

>>519926555

>not going after the central point

Typical woman behavior.

>>519927599
Central point being what? Women dont love sociopaths/criminals you nigger piece of shit, go kys, or better yet post your subhuman visage so I can take note of it and make a mental note of your physiognomy.

>>519926456
Because I jumped on the conversation halfway through without context and im a Appalachian chicken farmer use to extreme hostility for having beliefs like "molesting kids is bad" and "Republicans are class traitors".

All good brother. If we agree we agree.

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>>519925383
>t.

>>519868543
AAAAGH, MOTHER
DID THEY RESTOCK THE CHERRY RC
MAYBE CAN I GET SOME SNACKS FOR FREE-EE
OHH, MOTHERR

>>519868543
Mmmm, that actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe subconsciously she saw me as a defective "bird" and pushed me out of her nest or something.

>>519871780
But do we know what their true number are? It's not like they're actually part of our society. Which seems heavenly in some ways, and hellish in others.

>>519870940
Anon, it's obvious you have underlying anger issues that you can't even see. Taking an objective look at your life can be extremely difficult. Seriously, it can be really hard, but it's possible. You have to allow yourself to truly be honest with you.

>>519872540
I think this is also part of it. I feel like many anons on 4chan are quite a bit more intelligent than I am, but I also feel I more intelligent than the vast majority of people I come in contact with, including my family. My family, especially my dad, are ultra religious. My brother and I are very similar in many ways, but his life is vastly different than mine. The difference? He was much more loved by our mother. And my dad too. My brother seems much more meek, mild and even weak when we were young, but my mom nurtured him in a much different way.

>>519909939
>Other anons, dont listen to this anon, going no contact and refusing to deal with their shit is based and redpilled.
kek
He's probably right though

>>519878179
How was your life in school anon? Did you fit in, or were you an outcast?

>>519927819

>unattractive means immoral

to the average superficial foid it does

>>519868543
Yeah that checks out

>>519868543
Almost as if the mother has autism too.

>>519868543
>mother
>love me
women can't love, dear anon

>>519929000
This why thinking in terms of cursed families makes sense. The best way to end the curse is by not procreating.

>>519928334
Appalachians are based, hope you live a good life man. I know the people there are 50% retards though, desu, probably even more than that, because even the averave american is an absolute imbecile, so what chance do these rural retards have?

Stay safe bro

>>519930229
Physiognomy = real
I am a man and I believe in it.
Doesnt mean its always correct, but you will be very correct very often.

>>519930444
Willy mac and wendigoon are 2 low iq youtubers from that area. They have the phenotype.

>>519930319
This is part of the problem too, because I know she is fucked up mentally. The irony is, the one that fucked her up mentally (her mom), is the one who saved me because of her love and affection towards me. But Jesus, praying and reading your bible is the cure-all for everything. Which is also one of the reasons she rejects me to this day. I'm not a "good" little Christian, and I never will be again.

>>519868543
We've known this since forever. Didn't you guys watch the movie about the monkey experiments?

>>519930401
Too late anon. I fucked that part up pretty bad too and continued the cycle. I am desperately trying to "fix" that situation. It seems to be an uphill battle across the board for me.

>>519930537
They used to be mostly Scottish and English genetically, Appalachians were essentially the frontiersman's frontier, the last wildnerness in the US. Those anglo niggers lived like fucking indians and pumped tons of kids into their wives. Eventually they deforested huge areas and managed to grow pathetic farms (because they were too dumb to do it properly, because, yeah, they had nobody to teach them) and then coal mining came along and almost everyone mined coal. They then imported some niggers and poor europeans for railroad building and because they needed more people to shovel coal. Eventually they closed the mines in the 40s and 50s and everyone became dirt fucking poor. Kennedy visited them in the 60s and couldnt believe that Americans lived like literal mud-house-dwelling Africans.

Appalachians are still one of the most impoverished areas in the US. But their landscape is beautiful and some people are very friendly, but obviously isolated poverty (e.g. something that the rest of the nation does not share) does not make for the best sorts of people.

I'll be honest anons, this thread made me kinda sad, but at the same time gives me a bit of comfort and hope knowing I'm not alone even if my real frens are people I will never see irl.

>>519930687
Religion is like alcohol or drugs to some traumatized people, they cling to their Jesus or Allah. Its too hard to get them away from that sort of shit. Religion is too normalized even amongst psychologists.

>>519930878
retarded sandnigga babble has to come back everywhere I go. I just want to go to the stars, but we're stick paying taxes to some Elite usury Jewish led cabal keeping lines up while taking care of every group that hates us. ReeeeEEEEEEeeee

>>519930763
>>519930401
Death can't be a solution. You have to do everything you can to heal and find a way to grow stronger out of adversity.

>>519930845
I will recommend some books for you:
Complex PTSD - Pete Walker
Healing the Shame that Binds You - John Bradshaw
The Drama of the Gifted Child - Alice Walker
The Body keeps the score - Bessel van der Kolk
I hate you dont leave me - Jerold Kreismann

These are abour various forms of trauma, trauma responses, coping mechanism, defense mechanism, therapy approaches.

I included "I hate you dont leave me" because it is about BPD (borderline) which is a form of self defense of the mind, sort of like psychopathy and narcissism, unlike these two it is however not a truly malignant and destructive one, which means you can definitely love someone or be BPD yourself and heal or help them heal if you want to.

Narcissism and psychopathy are both dangerous and tragic and can almost never be healed, so if you think you have these or you think someone you love has them, its almost always better to leave that person, because you can not help them really.

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Rerigerator mother therory in better:
Proposed by me
Mothers of children with autism are psychologically not happy with themselves because they only chilled with females as a child and old grandmas, when someone uses for example slang language to not be hyposed badly incase of with wording they get angry and are punching the children while also trying to kill them because the mother is mentally ill in general because she has no happiness or hobby but to scream at men and to punch em because she believes in biology teachers from the 1920s.
They had the oppposite of rejection as a child from old grandmas and their own mother because she's such an angel for old grandmas.
The child plans to take over the world and kill mostly all humans because the mother even send pheromons that she wants to rape all younger men and even the brothers of one. She doesn't know humans in general and has mental illness her whole life and is unable to laugh except if it's a serious joke which is not a joke against ethic humans in regular kinda.

>>519931179
It's inappropriate to have unrealistic expectations

>>519868776
The worst part is once I realized this and cut my parents out of my life after moving out and realizing I was messed up partly due to them was them telling me via text, voice mail and family that they dont know what is wrong with how im acting. They didn't raise me to treat them this way. They wish they could know me better.
I suppose they are either purposefully acting this way as further attempts of psychological warfare or they are the most ignorant narcissist in the world. Either way you have to learn how to cut your parents out if they are doing more harm than good. My favorite part is now that im 31, married and starting my own life I did end up reaching back out to them at insistence of my wife. Just for both of my parents (now divorced) to both say they expect me to start helping them around their house with chores now that they are getting older and that i need to help them with bills. And then I cut them off again probably for life.

>>519931217
Only daddy issues is not as bad as mommy and daddy issues together. If one parent raised you correctly, you have hope.

>>519927137
Daily reminder: tits or gtfo.

Your vagina controlls your mind. When i make a woman cum, no matter who she works for or how much she wants to hate me, I quite literally posess her with my soul. Psychically through the electrical spasm of her nervous system. This is the metaphysical nature of the woman. A woman who cannot reach orgasm in general or easily with a physically competent partner is psychically closed off as a defense. Many women who were sexually abused as a child go hypersexual or asexual as a result. Or a fascinating blend of both where their pelvic floor siezes up and they experience pain as they approach what would otherwise be an orgasm.

My bigger concern is the problem with your father and the unfortunate results that you project onto me. You imagine men being "raped by society" as a compensating force to your mistreatment. While your intelligence pales in comparison to mine, you are actually so smart, honest, and self aware that you tone this down with your parenthesis.

You think I like the power of the rapist? Its a fucking burden treating women this way. I deal with the truth of the nightmare directly. Its so painful. Thats the metaphysical essence of the man. I shine the light of my soul and fire up peoples nervous systems as I have done with yours. Not that it matters since I can only interact with "approved women" with a forced outcome, lest I be swiftly interrupted. They fear this ability.

I love you. I dont actually need a picture of your tits, you are enough. I will love you with all of my heart. Unblock me.

>>519931217
Other refigerator females general think this is maybe a bit right ore less instead of more from more side and besmile her while saying she is still kinda a bit nice

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>>519931220
You're right, with that kind of attitude it's not.

>>519931281
Read the bible, parents in general are retarded. Jesus parents were the cause of his death because he didn't kill one child because his parents told him so.

>>519868543
yes

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>>519886378
> verbiage

FAGGOT