THIS SHIT WAS FAKE & GAY THE ENTIRE TIME?!
Wow, what a shocker
>>520183979Mutts can’t run AI datacenters without new nuclear power plants.
>>520183979And i think they can’t get a rare earth supply chain going without softening their environmentalism rules.
>>520183979>30 years of doomsday predictions>nothing happens
>>520183979You should watch your carbon footprint so I can build more datacenters.
>>520184081>2 moar generations
So you mean the same people who told us how we were going to overpopulate the earth for decades and now say that we are underpopulated and need to import infinity niggers or society will collapse were lying?
>>52018397990s>"Everyone stop using paper bags! Paper comes from trees and trees are good thing of the environment! Use Plastic!"anyone who is older than 25 has seen this song and dance
>yeah it never really was that important. Sorry for fucking with everyones lives.
>>520183979>evil rich guy liedWtf bros...
>>520183979lmao they just straight up lied huh
Thats the beauty of science...woops we got it wrong goy!! Its this now!!! Wait a minute gosh dang tarnet its actually this! Etc over and over as it constantly evolves.
He doesn't think climate change is a threat because they worked up a solution. They're going to BLOCK OUT THE FUCKING SUN with micro-particles.
>>520184162shh they are currently falling for the other evil rich guy, don't ruin that
>>520183979Always has been
>>520184081in 90ies when I was in elementary school there was constant talk about oil running out in few more decades, what ever happened to that narrative I wonder?
>>520184183Why is this rabbit so obsessed with rope?
>bill gates is a vaxtard and the debil just like george soros>zomg he agrees with me because he's corrupt?!you chuds are fucking retarded, the science hasn't changed and neither has billy gates
>>520184145i'm 33 and i fully understand why old men are either grumpy or dopey
>>520183979There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept
>>520184313us imports tar sands oil from canada. we have 46-57 years of oil left.
>>520183979>THIS SHIT WAS FAKE & GAY THE ENTIRE TIME?!yes.it served its purpose, all the regulations and taxes are in place, none of them will ever be revoked again.time to move on to the next scam with which they'll squeeze you dry. it looks like it will be the war industry.
>>520183979>THIS SHIT WAS FAKE & GAY THE ENTIRE TIME?!Anon, we're supposed to be dead by now according to their earliest projections...
>>520183979Until 2008 the fifthteen greatesf international cargo tanker polluted more that dozen of millions of cars. In 2020 they introduced new regulations and technology and they cut those emissions by a lot.
>>520183979You thought it was a real threat? I'd call you cute if that naivety wasn't so commonplace that it's ruining our nations
>>520184313That was before fracking took off. Now we can bleed oil from stone
>>520183979hey guys we just stole 20 years from you with our horseshit, but actually, we always knew
>>520184337old men have seen them swap between>impending ice age!to >impending global warming!to >just climate change in general!to now>okay maybe we exaggerated a little bit about the ecosystem LITERALLY COLLAPSING Like imagine being old enough to see the invention of nuclear power and then the green energy climate change fucks of all people being the reason it gets shelved. I'd be grumpy as shit if I was old
Ruling elite wanted to breathe clean air.That's really it.
>>520184330The "science" was all made up so they could keep getting government grants
>>520183979Always was. The focus on oil is a meme. And it only exist because US citizens are retarded. Something like 80% of oil extracted is done by state run oil companies. Saudi, fins, Venezuela, china, etc. But you ask an American who the problem companies are it is Exxon, Shell, etc. You could possibly regulate US companies however you cannot go to other countries and demand they drill and use less because that is how that country makes money. Carbon footprint and related issues were memes created by these US oil companies to try to guilt the average goyim into feeling responsible to avoid regulating US oil companies. And only were started before a Democrat took office as they had the whole green party meme going at the time. It is all one giant psyop.
>>520184313Yeah teachers always banged on about it, what bullshit it turned out to be.
>>520184046shitjeet are you ok ?
>>520184330this. Nothing has changed, he's basically saying "calm your tits, but we still need to take care of climate change the best we can." which is fine.
Lefty well is drying up.They turned on their mastersThey went mask off And they will go the way of useful idiots. Yes it's the lefts loss and they will continue to lose but never ever mistake it for our victory.
bill gates doesnt think climate change is a threat anymore because his vaccines have sterilized and or will have murdered billions within 5 years - but not before the medical industry makes $250,000 -$500,000 a head treating (some of) your turbocancer in vain. now hes just mocking you.
>>520184445There's oil in Antarctica.
>>520184081>entire industries mangled>minds twisted>money scammed>nothing happens
we been telling you for decades that it was bs.
>>520183979Nah, they’ve pretty much done what they wanted under the pretence of saving the planet. Having taken two giant steps forwards; they’re now doing the Leninist technique of taking one small step backwards to fool the mugs.They think that the final victory of the October Revolution is near.
>>520184886>Expecting poltards to recognize the slightest bit of nuance
Pollution is bad. Less pollution is good.If you've ever been anywhere near a refinery or any other massive industrial region you'd agree that we need less of it, even if it means lying to the goyim.
>>520184220that's just trying to induce an ice age to kill the plebes
>>520183979COP30 is in two weeks. Bill Gates is /our guy/ now.
>>520184330>the science hasn't changedco2 catastrophism was always fake and gay, so you're right in that regard
>>5201843132 more weeks
>>520185806co2 is not pollution, retard
>>520183979We’ll eventually come around to accepting that the earth has heating and cooling periods
>>520185940
>>520183979No, it was all PR but now it's become more inconvenient. Major corporations recognizing environmental issues like climate change served to shift conversations away from taxes and other policy, to issues they actually benefit from losing on as well as a way to convince the public that they self regulate just fine, so there's no need to get government involved.
Climate scientists keep repeating that life will get HARDER but not impossible for mankind. But climate alarmists and cultists want DOOMSDAY.
>>520186219>not checkedAs in if action is taken starting then, not that that's the date entire nations would be wiped out. They didn't say they needed to act now or it happens in 11 years, they said they had 11 years to figure out and implement plans to prevent future man made climate change.
>>520184992Honestly I sort of hated this guy and the whole WEF thing they had going. Then you literally saw the normalfag cattle walk right into the most obvious hole that got digged right in front of them. Now I think he is ultimate Gigachad.
>>520183979No refunds.
>>520183979
>>520186578that's some top notch contortionist bullshit
>>520183979>THIS SHIT WAS FAKE & GAY THE ENTIRE TIME?!Yeah>1pbtid So tiresome. Go kys
>>520186065it wont bring back any of the freedoms, infrastructure, mental health and money back that was sacrificed on the altar of "human progress"
>>520186578>>520185708>>520184886It’s ok. You can admit you were wrong.
>>520184106And ship garlic from China.
Scientists are glorified paid advertisers of the narrative now. Any counter studies that would threaten the grift get blocked.
>>520183979>bill gates bitching about climate change and shit>starts building data centres for his AI projects>people holding him accountable>"MEH IT'S NOT THAT BAD AFTER ALL"LELMAO
>>520184525I also am old enough to have seen the stock market crash in 1987, 2001, and 2008 as well as 2020.One thing I can say with certainty is that the global economy really is rigged and every crash in history was deliberately inflated and then popped.Know where the Kennedy fortune came from? Old Joe went short with impeccable timing and then bought up entire buildings in downtown Chicago for next to nothing.All because he thought the market must be overvalued if shoeshine boys were offering him stock tips.Ignore that he headed the Securities Exchange Commission.
>>520187448Some seed oil shill here linked me to a study to "prove" that seed oils weren't bad for you and the scientist was literally paid directly by Bill Gates, he said so in the paper. And it was complete bullshit of course, the acid the study said was "safe" was not the cardiotoxic acid people are concerned about.
>>520187448>nowKek. Who's gonna tell him?
>>520184783Anon, you have no idea what a joy it is after posting on this subject for twenty odd years to see ONE other person point this out.>Something like 80% of oil extracted is done by state run oil companiesI don't know if you remember Peak Oil Theory, which they tried to pull to justify rising oil prices (when it was actually the Enron Loophole to allow financial companies to roll over contracts) but then that was easily debunked because it's nearly everywhere.Supposedly there's as much oil in Ecuador and in Pennsylvania as there is in Saudi Arabia. But our traitor governments enriched the Gulf Oil states because they buy weapons from them.
>>520184801Pink Floyd was right, the purpose of schools is to mentally destroy us.
>>520184313Instill remember in 00 we went with the school in Venice and the science teacher told us, "enjoy Venice because it will be underwater in 20 years" .21 years later I comebacks to Venice and it was the same
>>520183979People are retarded and climate alarmism was necessary to wake them up to the issue.
>>520186978>>520187285https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0>He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.>before it goes beyond human control.Headlines aren't even direct quotes or states from the people the article is about.
>>520184313Remember the acid rain scare? Lol
>>520184183Not really. If you looked at the predictions you'll quickly find that it's not a "whoops we're all dead" but rather that it'll set us on a reversible path that will kill millions and reshape countries and most estimates predict it'll hit the global south the hardest.Activists like Bill Gates have tried to make this into a collective struggle so people in the first world wouldn't just sit back which I don't think would be a lie as you'd have to face the massive immigrant waves and deal with flooding and other issues but to act like it's total death right away is pretty bad. I do think there's some scenarios like sea acidification that could be more blatant but most predictions I've seen aren't apocalypse worthy.
>>520183979Always was.You don't remember Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth and his predictions of mega tsunamis and monster hurricanes that were going to wipe us all out by 2025 or some shit?
>>520187994There's even a song called Venice is Sinking that came out in the 1980s lol.Global cooling was trendy in the 1970s because Texas got a blizzard one winter.>>520187448And then they whine on social media about how us plebs don't trust them.>>520186578The ozone hole was also bullshit. du Ponts's patent and expired so they needed to force new tech to maintain their monopoly.
>>520183979Trust the scie-aaack
>>520184153Thanks for the extra wealth transfer vehicle tho!
>>520188251It really is a religion to these subhumans, pay the tithe (carbon tax credits) and al gore will make the tsunami storms go away
>>520183979they cant sell their yachts, giant corporations and private jets while simultaneously climate change it up you fucking mong, isnt that obvious.they scream from their ivory towers of doom for the plebs to consume less while the consume ever so more.they dont want to be luigid, they probably all shit in their pants because theyre not bulletproof LOL!they have to play lowball until the palantir system is in place to fuck you royally in the ass and its going to be wonderful, as usual you fucked in the head morons, who are good for nothing, wont do shit about it. the end.
Does he no longer want to kill most of humanity to achieve completely trivial climate targets? Has he changed his mind about blacking out the sun?
>>520183979gates is just shuffling his deck. he doesn't give a shit about the outcome, he just wants to stay among the richest
>>520183979Maybe he's being blackmailed for his Epstein connections.
>>520183979They've lied about everything for decades. It seems almost unfair to single this one out. As a rule of thumb anything post world war 2 is an outright fabrication.
>Bill Gates saysDon't care
Uh oh, new demon. Now it's AI.
>>520184220>cartoonishly evil rich guy blocks out the sunI remember that episode of the Simpsons.
>>520183979No, OP. They're not saying it's fake.They're saying we're utterly fucked and there's nothing we can so, so the rich are going to spend their money on bunkers and arcologies instead and leave the rest of us to die.
>>520183979Climate change is real, it's just never as bad as they say it is. To me it's like a "boy who cried wolf" situation. If they keep telling us the world is going to end, which isn't true, no one is going to want to address the small changes that might actually happen
>>520188101Yes with the picture of the rain melting the umbrella.Btw from my point of view the real problem is not the co2 but the pollution air but also light, but nobody ever talk about this , only about co2
>>520183979>THIS SHIT WAS FAKE & GAY THE ENTIRE TIME?!If you're only just figuring this out now you might have a learning disability or a severe lack of critical thinking skills.
>>520189024Is just an excuse to legalize importing new third worlder like "climate migrants"
>>520183979This likely means it's actually real (it is) and worse than they initially thought. I think climate change is real, I also think leftists have been using it for their own agenda, two things can be true.
>>520187898>(when it was actually the Enron Loophole to allow financial companies to roll over contracts)its really too bad all the SEC's evidence against Enron magically went poof in building 7
>>520188071>the greenhouse effectare you telling me that you're too retarded to understand that the greenhouse effect is a misnomer as applied to the earth's climate?or are you telling me that you're so retarded you believe the earth has a glass dome over it
>>520184313We have like 1000 years of coal, atleast 500 years of oil and ungodly amounts of Nat Gas and you know what's funny? We keep finding more as our resource extraction methods get better and our utilization becomes more efficient.
>>520183979b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but the science(tm) says.....
>>520183979>be child>your parents leave the TV on>"THE WORLD IS DOOMED AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE">go to kindergarten>"THE WORLD IS DOOMED AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE">ask your mom if the world is doomed and we are all going to die>"THE WORLD IS DOOMED AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE">go online>"THE WORLD IS DOOMED AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE">play a video game>"THE WORLD IS DOOMED AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE">go to college>"THE WORLD IS DOOMED AND WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE">Bill Gates: "Syke! Haha! My bad."This is going to break a lot of people.
>>520189186>we must prepare for a climate disasterif Ben Davidson is correct then we're absolutely gonna have a disaster on our handsit would make sense why globohomo tried culling to clean the place up ahead of time vis a vis the clot shotsbut anyone with more than 2 brain cells to rub together knows goddamn well that any disaster will have precisely nothing to do with the co2 concentration of the atmosphere
Hey look at that, I was right again.Leftoids will never recover.
>>520189404> Nat Gas
>>520189546Hollow earthers would agree to this picture for proof of its endless source.
>>520189354ozone layer
If the U.S doesn't reduce it's emission and if it keeps up this climate denial the world will bomb it's energy infrastructure into the stone age. It might take a couple of decades for electrification on the rest of the world to leave the US behind. But when the entire world has to deal with constant natural disasters your 60+ old arsenal won't protect you then.
>>520184046AI hype is no different than the EV hype. Except at least an EV will actually drive you to the strip club and AI will just be your fake girlfriend.
>>520185806Go to china and india and tell them that. India will eat cow shit while blankly staring at you. China will say they are a developing nation so it's okay that they pollute not only their air and water but the air and water of every nation around them. Oh also all your fish are belong to china.
>>520189736>shifts subject from article to what I believeWhat does that have to do with that 1989 article being about getting measures in place before 2000 to mitigate future disaster?
>>520186578Ah someone finally said it. He's still wrong though. The hole in the ozong layer is cyclical.
>>520190286>Other people do it so why should I stop?Are you a child?
>>520190577You are so fucking retarded. So stupid. Holy shit you are dumb. If you don't have the balls to tell the biggest polluters to knock it off then you definitely have no place to tell the least polluting nations to pollute less. Kill yourself you absolutely brain dead fucktarded piece of shit.
>>520190577Because they are brown. What other arguments are there to make really?
>>520183979I hated this cunt since Amiga days.
>>520189736reminder that we stopped hearing about the ozone layer once the natural creation/destruction mechanism was discoveredlook up the Chapman cycle my poor uninformed
>>520183979Always was. But when I told you faggots, you turned into screeching retards about polar bears and fetal alcohol syndrome or something.
>>520183979> WAIT! WTF?! SO THEY JUST STRAIGHT LIED ABOUT THIS SHIT FOR DECADES???Now you’re on the trolly!
>>520183979.Even if the air is filled with carbon monoxide, the Earth would still be cold.
>>520183979yeah you fucking nigger>all the climate scientists have major news! it's a climate emergency! the world might end!!! they need more money NOWAlways a scam, illiterate savages were right as usual, when those in power lie so often.
>>520190889>In November 2014, President Barack Obama and President Xi Jinping stood together in Beijing to make a historic U.S.-China Joint Announcement on Climate Change, emphasizing their personal commitment to a successful climate agreement in Paris and marking a new era of multilateral climate diplomacy as well as a new pillar in their bilateral relationship. On the occasion of President Xi’s State Visit to Washington, D.C., the two Presidents reaffirm their shared conviction that climate change is one of the greatest threats facing humanity and that their two countries have a critical role to play in addressing it. The two Presidents also reaffirm their determination to move ahead decisively to implement domestic climate policies, to strengthen bilateral coordination and cooperation, and to promote sustainable development and the transition to green, low-carbon, and climate-resilient economies.https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2015/09/25/us-china-joint-presidential-statement-climate-changeThis is why in that climate change episode of South Park, the guy who keeps moving the goalposts of what it takes for him to believe in manbearpig shifts until he says "well if China doesn't recognize manbearpig, then-" and then he dies because not only is it fucking stupid to deny action should be taken only when someone else has taken action, they actually had recognized man made global warming and taken action.
>>520183979Yeah you know soemthitng is fake when they make a big deal out of it and somehow lefty policies are the ONLY SOLUTION Think of how much money and power flowed into the hands of left wingers via grants, funding, activism etc to “fight climate change” It’s all excuses to find their friends, the right needs to learn to do that, the funding for ice and the navy and coast guard in the BBB was a good example of that Now the right needs to learn how to fund ITS guys. Fund right wing orgs and clubs and companies for right wing goals etc
>>520190889This talking point was fucking retarded 10 years ago. Since then China made solar cheaper than coal, made EVs affordable, is building dozens of nuclear plants across the world, made advances on nuclear fusion, became the biggest hydro power provider in the world, etc etc etc. Stop pointing fingers and solve your shit you fat ass lazy cry baby mutt.
>>520183979tap tap?
to climate scientist's credit, they were right about the acid rain and the ozone layer but those were man-made problems and were quickly resolved with man-made solutions>what if the earth wasn't inherently stable and humankind set it toward the brink of dooooooooom!!!!
>>520188172>that will kill millionsoh cmon now>and reshape countriesthat always happened. people will move. countries will get reshaped. I'm not taking shorter showers or else bongland gets reshaped fuck outta here
>>520191474co2 does not drive the climate and means about a cunt hair's width above fuckallonly scientifically illiterate retards who have no respect for the scientific method believe in the co2isms meme
>>520191368Is this what you actually believe and the structure of your reasoning?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
>>520191474>Solar is cheaper than coal It’s not though coal to this day in terms of cost and benefit is by far the easiest source of energy.Nuclear could be but requires lots of upfront investments
>>520191474>>520190889oh, I forgot you don't live in a democracy and are just goy slave cattle for big oil to the point your entire sense of identity are depended on your oil drinking pods. Sorry, ignore my last post.
>>520190194>fake stripper gf lying to you for currency (money)>fake a.i gf lying to you for currency (time training a.i)I don't see the difference. As soon as you plebs start understanding that money is currency and currency in 2025 isn't just money your heads will crack and a new redpill will leak into cultural zeitgeist.
>>520191547The ozone layer shit was a natural occurrence. Don't listen to grifters who try to tell you that two events happening at the same time must be connected.
>>520183979>>520183979based technocratsfuck the regular person unironically, retarded fucking animals
>>520183979Fact is, it's the water. 8 billion people, half on the coasts, most with plumbing, plenty of it goes into the sea. The oceans have a layer of fresh water on top of the salt water, eroding IceCaps faster, causing unusual times and allowing for more extreme weather, making the sea levels seem higher in local areas, while not in others. Pulling groundwater out of the inland water cycle and treating it then shooting it out into the oceans where itll take longer to precipitate back over land causes inland droughts and waterway and coastal flooding.
And so it was foretold
>>520183979Wait so a college drop out who only got rich because of his mother’s connections to ibm wasnt an expert on climate change ?
>>520188101acid rain was kinda real, but catalytic converters fixed the worst of that problem
>>520191653It's a reply to a post. There's more to it than just that, but that's as far as I care to take it with this one. Why do you ask?
>>520183979>foxnewsyoure just not going to make it are you buddy.
>>520191858>reeeeeee they are just nepobabiesdo something motherfucking rat, you scum and the best you can hope for is being used as material to build something with actual valueyou are worthless trash
>>520191614>>520191724>moving the goal post againdrop the cope or you WILL get genocided and balkanized by the end of the century.
>>520191858But he IS an expert on pharmaceuticals so don't forget your Covid booster jabs. Make sure to get Moderna since that's the company he invested $10B in a decade or so ago.
AI isn't a bubble, invest, get a mortgage, have brown children and send them to state schooling so you don't have to deal with them
>>520191474>since 1750What a cope.Imagine believing china when they say they aren't polluting the shit out of themselves and everyone around them. I lived there for 6 years, I know how bad it is. Tell me, do they pay you to suck their dick or do you do it for free?
we hate you, and you deserve it
>>520192129You're no different than the niggers in the quarry, house boy. No different at all.
>>520192023Are you an actual retard or a bot?
>>520192129okay coconut soldier
>>520191940Because it's retarded, anthropocentric, absurdly reductionist, and I wanted to see if you were presenting information for critique or describing what you believe.Hey, hey anon. What are the single largest vectors for "man-made climate change"? What have they done to mitigate this? Enough said.
you are a fucking piece of shit, unworthy
>>520192186>A goy seethes.
>>520191715>>520192023the talking points your masters came up 20 years ago don't apply anymore. Try having a original thought for a change goy
>>520192186Maybe stop importing cheap petroleum products and throwing them in the river
>>520191474>CO2 emissions>(From fossil fuels and cement)>starting from 1750Even you should be able to see just how utterly bullshit that retarded, cherrypicked graph is.
>>520191547They were wrong about the ozone layer though.
>>520191736>ai generated fake fox girlfriend>genuine mental illness>genuine feelingsAI is thousand times better than those electric contraptions.
>>520188172This map looks like something we should work towards implementing.
>>520183979Will he apologize to Greta for making her look like an idiot?
>>520191474>1750-2020What a stupid graph LMAO
>>520192411>>520191765I doubt itAs soon as ozone problems starting showing up again people looked around and found China was pumping chlorofluorocarbons again illegally. I'll listen to evidence though if you people have any.
>>520183979>this is why the epstein files arent getting releasedmuch to valuable to use for blackmail>global warming is a scamthe "science" is mixed. the politics have always been obvious though. globalist idiots thought they could use climate change to institute a global carbon tax through the UN and make it a real big boy world government. lmao. never going to happen.
>>520192411>government admits they put a massive hole in the ozone>research papers on the poles talk about shifting weather patterns like wind being behind a majority of the warming >ask grok if ozone holes result in shifting weather patterns>ozone holes result in warmer wind patters shifting towards the poles
>>520192184Pivoting to "what have they done to mitigate this" doesn't make sense and I just posted an example of what they've done to mitigate this in the first post you replied to.https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/converted-contrarian-argues-humans-to-blame-for-climate-change/Back in 2012, the Koch bros were shopping for climate skeptics to prove man made climate change wasn't real. He found it was real.
>>520183979They figured out people don't like being told they're going to die every 5 or 6 years and it makes ppl want to kill them.
>>520192108>since the industrial revolutionYes.>Imagine believing china when they say they aren't polluting the shit out of themselves and everyone around themstrawman deflection. I never said this. You're still the biggest cancer on the planet tho.>>520192169ad hominem >>520192406> cherrypicked graph cope harder, do you actually believe you aren't the biggest polluters in history?You amerimutts are genetically and socially engineered by your masters to actually be this fucking dumb. Then you'll cry everyone hates you like a spoiled little bitches but there will be no mercy when people think that they'll be saving the world by killing you.
>>520184220Hes going to mass sterilize india and africa
>>520184126There's another obvious solution. We can admit that the left were correct, and consume Mr Gates.
>>520192767WTF I LOVE BILL GATES NOW??????
>>520192552Yeah the chink shills have been using that one for a while, it's always funny when they whip it out thinking it will magically make them win the argument. Meanwhile I just head on over to a website and OH LOOK AT THAT CHINA AND INDIA ARE DISGUSTING POLLUTED SHITHOLES! What a fucking surprise.
>>520192557look up what the Chapman cycle is you dumb fuck
Picrel really needs to happen again.
>>520192664>what is the Chapman cycleits the sun, retards
>>520192228This is not fucking true lmao How have you allowed yourself to be convinced of this? >look this chart says Yeah but in reality when you impose green energy on people they start using more coal because it’s cheaper and easier
>>520193034>the sun burned a hole in the ozone
>>520191474>since the US formed the contemporary worldInteresting timeline. I reckon the anglosphere should simply take back all the computers, trains, combustion engines, cars, planes, lithography, chemistry, physics, modern math, and just about everything it's invented since 1750, since it was all so bad.
>>520192765fuck you Blankaco2 was always a scam and never a pollutantits not moving the goalposts at allif you had more than 2 brain cells you'd know that they omit some solar inputs from TSI and make up the gap with overinflated GHG coefficient
>>520193060>The Chapman cycle is a series of natural chemical reactions that create and destroy ozone in the stratosphere. It involves ultraviolet (UV) radiation splitting oxygen molecules (\(O_{2}\)) into two oxygen atoms (\(O\)), which then combine with other oxygen molecules to form ozone (\(O_{3}\)). Finally, ozone is broken down by either UV radiation or by reacting with an oxygen atom, which continuously maintains a dynamic equilibrium of ozone in the atmosphereyou cant just make fun of it and it'll go away, retard
>>520192667That's a jape. The biggest cause? Multinationalist galavanting around the globe at their whim, and corporate emissions. BY FAR. To an absurd degree. Their solutions do not match the issue; they're consumer focused. Therefore they havent been mitigated, and the problem isnt what they describe.
>>520193048maybe in your oil powered techno oligarchy dystopia lol
>>520183979they realized that pajeets are a climate risk for every country so now they are backpedaling on climate change because they need to flood every single country with millions of them even if that means flavoring your rivers with some tons of grabage, which is a good thing according to recent studies by people familiar with the topic and experts.
>>520187898Wasn't there a study that showed that oil wells do refill themselves after a while and that i would take less than 70 years or so for all the depleted wells to refill?
>>520192765I guess you're just too retarded to realize how retarded you are. Your graph is shit, your premise is shit, you are shit. Kill yourself, retard.
>>520193216I've heard the criticism that travel is a big contributor but what are the numbers on corporate air travel vs activist air travel? You're saying "BY FAR" and in a world of the WEF shifting focus to cows as polluters so we give factories and refineries more of a pass without providing a source on what would be interesting information.
>>520192664In all your studies did they ever explain why the ozone hole only appears over the south pole?
>>520193216Also it's funny that your first criticism is how my info was too anthropocentric and now you're saying the issue is anthropocentric.
>>520193892https://youtu.be/Ye45DGkqUkE
>>520193820seethe, cancer. You were born just in time to live the american century of humiliation, and part of it is your population becoming a bunch of coal breathing, micro-plastic eating, obese flat earthers.
>>520193929>>520193864That's nice, but irrelevant to the premise, buttblasted anon. There is no mitigation for those problems at all, and you're arguing diagnostic semantics. That would require limits on immigration, travel, corporate emissions, industrial output, and therefore hurt economic activity. They have "green offsets" like Steve Ballmer's climate tree bullshit to launder money to kawhi leonard, but the structure is the issue if "climate change" is the problem, and your argument is about cows farting, versus literal jets spraying combustion resultants in the atmosphere at a global scale, and massive industrialized amoral profit focused entities with corporate lobbying and a history of obfuscating anything that could harm their shareholders.Begone, you are here to shill, double posting faggot.
>>520183979This nigger created machines that purifies CO2 out of the atmosphereCO2 is essential to plant growth and greening the earth, this microsoft nigger literally wants you DEAD
>>520193191>government burns holes in ozone>causes climate disturbance>government tells us the poles will melt, the coasts will flood, or everybody will freeze to death, we don't know>but what we do know is you need to invest in green energy which is zero sum resource extraction just like fossil fuels >US hegemony looks like it's on the verge of collapse>QUICK create another investment bubble>absolutely dogshit AI comes out of nowhere and kills the internet >we need more resource extraction to power the plants to make fake marvel movies with AI!
>>520193354You are a poor retard lmao Without oil you’d be living in a hut working in a rice plantation
>>520187898If you were a company that specialized in oil in any form of extraction, refining or selling refined product would you want to announce that you found large supplies? No you keep it quiet and larp as there being dwindling demand. The only reason you would want to announce finding huge fields is to crash prices and that is against the earnings must go up each year mindset. Larping as we are near peak oil is better for short term gains. Long term stability has been gone since the 80s in corporate America.>>520193768Some do but it is speculated to be nearby wells or earthquakes linking drilled well to new well and it refilling from that. Oil as a mechanism of the planet likely naturally refills faster than we pretend with muh fossil fuel. There is constant plant growth and death which seeps down and lubes its way deep enough to be pressurized to become oil. Probably most of it is done in ocean seabed. Then it just flows along the easiest path until it fills up a hole in crust and then earthquakes happen and oil shifts around to new cracks and this repeats until the planet is destroyed.
>>520194459>information to back up what you said is irrelevantThen you're just bullshitting.>and your argument is about cows farting, versus literal jets spraying combustion resultants in the atmosphere at a global scale,I said the WEF (industry shillfest) tried to shift the conversation to blaming cows and now you're saying corporate travel, activist travel is the biggest cause.>The biggest cause? Multinationalist galavanting around the globe at their whim, and corporate emissions. BY FAR. To an absurd degree.You're refusing to back this up and calling me a shill. I've provided sources for my points, you keep running from whatever point you're trying to make.
>>520183979HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEYcalm it with that anti semitismwe gotta build more datacenters to make the green line go up
>>520183979yes mark just like your love life.
>did someone say GAS
>>520183979>decadesNigger its been over two centuries.
>>520195007I live better than you, cancer. I own my house. Live close to nature and 15min from the city center. 1000+m2 terrain with a big pool, a greenhouse I built it myself for fun, etc , etc, Stop coping with strawmans. You worship oil as if it were your God that gave you everything and yet you own nothing and defend your owners who profit from it. Does your life even hold any meaning without your owners at this point?
>>520183979shitlibs shouldn't get to vote, they're just too stupid.
>>520195570>I live in the city>I'm not poor >brazil
>>520195452
>>520195633>still copingthey aren't sending their best... or maybe this is the best you have? no wonder you're climate change denier
>>520184313The earth self replenishes
>>520195182You are incapable of rephrasing my point, narrative shilling doofus, and my claim requires minimal proof since CONSUMERS CANNOT PRODUCE INDUSTRIAL GRADE PROCESS POLLUTANTS IN ANY CAPACITY OR PUT THEM IN THE ATMOSPHERE. It is a logical proposition, not an quantatative argument; the capacity and distribution has not been addressed in any capacity, and since logically speaking, they have the greatest production capacity for the things that contribute to the problem, and since there has been no attempt to address this, the solutions are inadequate at minimum, or the problem is diagnostically incorrect. Bicker all you want about which source said what, you didnt even acknowledge the position as potentially a problem, which implies you understood and are attempting to reframe things through an appeal to authority. Someone in good faith would minimally agree, an ideologue cannot at all because it presents something they cannot say.Clear and direct enough for you, pilpul shill-sama?
>>520195812You can't live in any city in the world and pretend like you're rich unless you're actually a hundred millionaire, everybody's poor, the niggers getting loans for some stock rimjob 5000 mobile singing about pussy are basically distilled modern culture. You live in a box next to a million other people living in boxes, you wear plastic thread clothing and plastic foam shoes
>>520183979>Climate change panic has been just a business model goy>Vaxx wasn't about to protect you, goy......
>>520183979Of course it was a lie, by jews to wreck white countries economies, and shovel money to the third world where they did not keep regulations, while the jews got rich with a bunch of green energy scams themself. The only answer is to exterminate every jew in the world, everywhere, and exterminate every shitskin in the world too.
>>520196035is that what you tell yourself to keep you sitting (and seething) on you fat ass all day? Nice deflection, but I never said I was rich. I'm just not poor and enjoy a better quality of life than most amerimutts. You sound like a slave defending your owner for giving you everything you have.
>>520183979The comprise on Gates has now been turned around. Expect to see him shill for more right-wing stuff and less faggoty progressive gay shit. I saw this coming about a week or so ago when Gates was siding with Trump on some other issue. Forgot what it was, but I thought it was weird. Expect to see him being spun into the latest "based" person.
>>520183979Yup, turns out that life itself is one never-ending grift. The richest people in the world that rule over the plebian masses are operating from one falsehood to another with impunity.
>>520183979>THIS SHIT WAS FAKE & GAY THE ENTIRE TIME?!
>>520195952>you didnt even acknowledge the position as potentially a problem,Because "what could potentially be a problem" is an infinite bag of topics and endless tangents. I'm genuinely interested in what has you pointing yo Al Gore on a plane and how that compares with corporate vs industrial emissions and what has you saying "BY FAR." I need to understand that, anyone would, in these conversations. You're telling me to just accept that and go into endless tangents and rabbit holes with you and I'd like to see what that's based on. I'm open to the information, I'm giving you the opportunity to educate me, but you're getting mad that I'm not uncritically "minimally agreeing".
>>520184081Do I even need to say it?
anybody from the early 2000s remember when they pushed so hard about RUNNING OUT OF FRESH WATERi remember barney even did a song about how you “neeever let the water run!” when brushing your teeth even. they wanted you to dry brush because water was running out.
>>520196312>>520195812>>520195570Imagine being a third world Brazilian and believing in lefty white liberal lies about “the climate” in order to keep you poor PATHETIC You believe the lies of people who hate you and would gladly have you die for their weird attempt at utopia
>>520196312Your implication was that you live in the city and somehow that means you have it better than everybody else, and I'm just pointing out even millionaires are wearing shitty plastic shoes and shitty plastic shirts living in crooked cracked drywall mcmansions. But I guess for countries where a majority of the population drinks out of shitwater puddles they wouldn't notice
Bill Gates' vaccine is going to cull billions from the population over the next decade - of course he knows climate change isn't a problem now. He has already delivered the solution . He is saving the world and some have to be sacrificed . Only the few are able to do what needs to he done and it must be kept secret from Joe public
>>520183979>globohomo jews lie and grift the entire west and economy >heh nothing you can do goyim>rinse and repeat
>>520196857Fresh water is a limited resource and it gets more expensive the lower local water reservoirs get. That's not to say there are more sources, logistics, and means to reuse local water, but that's expensive and doesn't change that local water sources can reach a critical level where use needs to be limited so it can replenish before running out.
>>520184313In elementary school, I literally thought the hole in the ozone layer was going to kill us all
>>520197251lol elephant butt
>>520197343lmao yeah
>>520197414how do they replenish it? does water feed in from a river?
>>520197251California soil is desert soil and full of salt that needs to be flushed so when all the industrialists showed up with their machinery they devastated the ecology, they quickly learned that they needed 4+ foot hooks to reach down into the sold to break up all the salt in it that was accumulating with regular farming methods. You could probably write multiple phd's on how actually fucked california is policy wise, ecologically, demographically. It's all connected. They switched to more a cash crop form of slavery because of the soil which is why they imported all the useless spics because it was less work than planting wheat and digging up all the salt and flushing it out. That's why they're running out of water because the farms have to run water through the soil near constantly. But the supposed environmentalists will never bring this up because green activism is completely coopted by the government
>>520190194>and AI will just be your fake girlfriend.The Chinese stole a copy of Grok from Elon. They're all going to want to rape Will Stancil now.
>>520183979They pushed it so they could develop tech to keep already warm countries sustainable and generating shekels. Now that they think they can just move everyone to Europe and USA they don't need it anymore.
>>520183979yes
all the nuclear power plants are gone, its over. they solved it. they fixed climate change, obviously. someone tell greta.
>>520196692Ah yes, the semantic complaints of someone backed into a corner that now understands the argument, but is bickering about the specifics out of desperation. I'm not "telling" you anything, those are your inferences and excuses. I presented two propositions, one you've ignored, and the other you've reduced intentionally to "Al Gore" instead of "multinationalists". If something is burning fuel, in the air, logically speaking this is two things that contribute to climate change in your schema: the fuel being burnt, and the proximity of delivery. Every plane in the world doing it simultaneously contributes to climate change, in your schema. A 747 holds 48,000 to 63,000 liters of fuel, and an average of 105,000 commercial flights per day. Assuming one fill (read: some flights use more, some use less, this is a conservative estimate) thats between 4.5 million liters of fuel and 6.6 million liters. But this isnt regular fuel, it's goddamned plane fuel, and regardless of semantics about the relative number of cars, that's 6-7 million barrels deposited in closer proximity to the atmosphere by orders of magnitude using publically available estimates (canadian energy center). Therefore, not addressing this is contrary to your states goals, and unreasonable as a logcial proposition, regardless of the specifics of my math or my source. Bickering about which does what is irrelevant when it ISNT ADDRESSED AND IS EXACERBATED BY THE PEOPLE PRESENTING THE ISSUE.In addition, you did not address the industrial process pollution at all. Or mention it. And this is why you're a shill.
>>520183979>Unironic demon worshippers are liarsWhoa
>>520183979This cover is from 1973The reason the kikes and the government dare to play with us like this is because they don't believe we can kill them.
>>520191368>real life is a south park skit broI'm genuinely asking this anon. What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>520198173its just war propaganda, ohh my godit was war propaganda the entire time now I see it
>>520198003>Bickering about which does what is irrelevant when it ISNT ADDRESSED AND IS EXACERBATED BY THE PEOPLE PRESENTING THE ISSUE.I'd love to see the source on these numbers and comparison.>In addition, you did not address the industrial process pollution at all. Or mention it. And this is why you're a shill.I did, several times:>and how that compares with corporate vs industrial emissions and what has you saying "BY FAR.">>and your argument is about cows farting, versus literal jets spraying combustion resultants in the atmosphere at a global scale,>I said the WEF (industry shillfest) tried to shift the conversation to blaming cows>You're saying "BY FAR" and in a world of the WEF shifting focus to cows as polluters so we give factories and refineries more of a pass without providing a source on what would be interesting information.
>>520198233I gave the context of the joke. It wasn't a random gag about climate denial when man made climate change was real, he was using real talking points, moving the goalposts to what we still see today: "if China isn't recognizing it, why should we" while they become global leaders in solar and recognized man made climate change back in 2014.
>>520198540>quoted himself>ignored the argument again>wrote "source" when I provided a discrete source for the actual consumption rate at a level beyond my conservative estimateI dont gotta do shit, shill-kun. My argument has nothing to do with the math, the math was presenting a concern, my argument was that ignoring both aspects is irrational and contrary to your central premise of "preventing climate change". The limit was what's reasonable to assume from a logical perspective, which is an incredibly low bar. I demonstrated the proof to a minimal extent that someone arguing in good faith would know it's an issue. You are bickering semantically about "by far", addressing neither. That is the discrete behaviour of a shill.How's my nuts taste, you illogical buffoon?
>>520193191so, the chapman cycle is not a time cycle but an equilibrium cycle, and it does mot explain fluctuations in the ozone quantity.
It was Bill's wife that pushed the climate change bullshit, all of this gay shit is women spending their man's money to show off to other rich women how successful and virtuous they are.
>>520194582ozone hole and climate stuff are completely unrelated.
>>520198233>>520198901Also South Park had a history of climate change denial, so an episode about being wrong about it, a joke about goalposts moving skeptics, specifically to address an anon posting>Go to china and india and tell them that. India will eat cow shit while blankly staring at you. China will say they are a developing nation so it's okay that they polluteIt's relevant.
>>520199020You confidently made a claim of "BY FAR." and I asked where that comes from. That's a basic question, but you're insisting asking that is shill behavior. You're just arguing that you're getting worked up over your speculations while presenting information as fact.I'm quoting myself because you said I ignored industrial emissions when I was specifically addressing them and WEF shilling.
Most the plastic in the ocean comes from the third world. The Philippines alone totally negate the entire west watching their "carbon footprint". The fact they made millions of (You) feel bad and responsible for using a plastic straw.... its a clown world recognise it
>>520199449That's nice, but not relevant. Care to try again? A class in formal logic would help you, shill-kun using loaded language as an appeal to authority and bickering about instead of addressing the argument.
>>520183979He already owns all the farmland, he no longer cares as he has food secured.
>>520197286Oh yeah I 'member that one
>>520199620All you had to do was say you're speculating and posting theory as fact.
>>520183979No link. Fake story. Op is a fag
>>520183979>ah yeah sorry goyim that last buzzword scheme wasn't actually a big deal, but you really need to pay attention to the next thing i am shilling!and retards will keep falling for their tricks
>>520200037I'm not. That's an intentional semoitic distortion as an appeal to authority about the relative limits of my argument, implying it was irrational and you are rational by contrast.Planes contribute to climate change in your schema. Industrialized production contributes as well. Ignoring both is irrational, discrediting your argument directly, because you are aware there is no mitigation. Your only "out" is semantics about the definition of "by far" and the relevance. But a reasonable introlocutor in good faith would have assumed the premise as reasonable from a logical proposition, and said something like "sure it's an issue but not the main one". However, you are using OPSEC to push a narrative. You cannot cede that point becauase it goes contrary to your objective. And since you cant, you are a shill; you are not arguing, you are presenting a narrative. The threshold wasnt "conclusively demonstrate the statistical validity of my premise within a confidence interval", it was "it is illogical to ignore these aspects", and you are illogical.
>>520200627>Planes contribute to climate change in your schema. Industrialized production contributes as well. Ignoring both is irrational,I know they do and I'm not ignoring them. I showed you where I was referencing them. You brought a confident comparison, said "BY FAR" and now you spend the thread bitching that I'm asking for what you based that on.
>>520184046No one can you fucking retard.
>>520200863Nope. I was bitching about the structure of your argument. Anyways, I proved "by far" immediately because the industrial output of any one organization exceeds any individual's output, and the combined output exceeds any individual's output by so many orders of magnitude any consumer based mitigation has either misdiagnosed the problem (is wrong), or is insufficient in addressing it (is also wrong).And the chain of custody comes from the producer of the output first, offloading it on the end point doesnt address the issue.
American glowies figured out clean fusion decades ago and hid it from everyone for "national security" reasons, also because of oil companies. If they were actually worried about the environment I think they would slowly let this tech into the market
>>520184313it gets harder and harder to extract and we get better and better at extracting
>>520201257Anyways, I'll skip to the end.If there are known factors that arent mitigated and the solutions dont solve the problem, then the issue is not legitimate, because the people proposing it are being illogical to begin with. Therefore the problem AND the solutions were always bullshit, as was everything justifying them, because if they werent, real actionable steps would have been taken to address the structure responsible for the issue, not punish the last layer who recieves it. The problem of climate change isnt the climate, it's that people need an existential threat. The solution isnt that climate change needs to be solved, it's that it cant be solved intentionally, and can be used indefinitely to justify policy decisions.All of "that" was to show you your belief is nonsense. I could have done the same thing looking at the methodology for any study, but I'm playing to the crowd, not talking to you, which is dickish. My apologies.
>>520201257This started with me supporting addressing China as a polluter. Then you tied "galavanting" in air travel with corporate emissions. I got hung up on "by far" because you said that's the biggest, and I thought you were comparing that against industrial. I didn't know you meant corporate and industrial as the same thing.>And the chain of custody comes from the producer of the output first, offloading it on the end point doesnt address the issue.Yes.
>>520190194So both won’t have sex with you? Alright I’ll take the AI gf then. I hate hanging out at those bars
>>520184183Yes and now they're telling the absolute truth, you got them anon.
>>520202188We cool, you're a cool guy too if I'm being honest. Like I said, the autism beams arent for you, they're for the people pushing this stuff. I'd buy you a beer any time.
>>520184081There are no more bugs on my windshield when I drive and it rains in December now. Jamaica just got demolished by a cat 5 that came in from the opposite direction
>>520184081i wish the globohomo climate change was real, it has the potential to kill all humans but at least subhumans will die before we adapt to changing climates
>>520202147I appreciate what you're saying but>Therefore the problem AND the solutions were always bullshit, as was everything justifying them, because if they werent, real actionable steps would have been taken to address the structure responsible for the issue, not punish the last layer who recieves it.You seem to acknowledge profit motive in mitigating addressing the issue meaningfully when we can clearly see that just recognizing the issue comes with with layers of paid obfuscation and distraction from ever forming anything that resembles an actionable consensus. Recognizing the issue isn't profitable in the short term. That should factor more heavily into this game theory you're doing.
>>520184313It happened in 2000, at the same time that Iran got a nuclear weapon and the glaciers melted.
>>520202147>If there are known factors that arent mitigated and the solutions dont solve the problem, then the issue is not legitimate, because the people proposing it are being illogical to begin with.That doesn't logically follow. What if the problem is legitimate and the ruling class is structurally incapable of doing what needs to be done to actually solve the crisis so they simply unload as much of the responsibility as possible onto the lower classes? Intractable problems are a hallmark of societies that are about to collapse. In fact just before the French revolution a major ecological collapse demolished harvests and it led to conspiracy theories about how harvest was actually fine and foreigners were just hoarding grain
>>520183979>"I believe every mouthpiece and talking headline as long as they say something that lets me be outragedStop being so female/liberal-brained.
>>520183979More that they believed in their own paranoia, they were just as batshit insane as the very people they shat on.
>>520183979New holy science just droppedThe science is settled you ignorant chuds, new findings & improved methodology lead to these discoveries, you know using actual science instead of making up racist antisemitic conspiracies like poltards intentionally do
>>520184313jews have absolutely destroyed the reputation of scientists and doctors because of gaslighting funds-covid-global warming-rising sea levels-no more oil-acid rain
>>520190194based
>>520184313We reached peak peak-oil consciousness and then it declined.
>>520202585I skip capital entirely because an existential threat is beyond capital by its nature, and it opens up a big can of worms. Addressing one isnt a matter of cost, but necessity; this is the internalized logic of the problem. The reason they dont implment it IS the capital; it's not worth the trade because it's not real. I leave that implied in the structure.>>520202787Then nothing can be done at all and I have no interest in pretending to solve it. We lack the structure, so feeling bad about it doesnt matter. We simply need to accept the outcome and knowing about it is irrelevant from a functional perspective, particularly as an existential threat, so we might as well claw back things we enjoy by refuting the possibility of action entirely. But I didnt say that because it's bleak, and I dont personally agree. The problem is still illegitimate in the framing. A legitimate unsolvable problem isnt a problem, it's an inevitability, and there is no solution, only mitigation.
>>520202854They never believed in their own paranoia, they just flat out lied. If wealthy climate activists like Bill Gates actually believed in catastrophic climate change, they wouldn't own beachfront properties.
>>520183979Well the need nuclear power now for AI so yeah
>>520183979>>520184081Fuck that movie An Inconvenient Truth. It was as bad for climate as Super Size Me was for fast food.Al Gore made a follow up and used a fucking hurricane as an example of sea levels rising and flooding NYC, even when his whole premise was ice caps melting and flooding every coastal city.
>>520183979Yes.It was a way to stimulate the global economy to create carbon reducing forms of energy.Solar panels,Batteries,Hydrogen,Wind farms,then Recycling,eco friendly everything,earth science,climate science,the whole Green initiative was a psyop to stimulate the global economy.Was always a farce.Scientists will say we don't have enough data to say whether we're causing global warmingBut it doesn't stop the PR machine to convince you it's ok what your lawmakers throw money at.Always been a psyop
>>520184046Nuclear power plants take 5 years to plan and 5 years at least to build if everything goes perfect. They can pump out a coal burner and have 750mw on the grid every two years from one station. Coal is back on the menu. With carbon capture of course.
>>520183979It was all a grift bro, people got rich off this.
>>520204993>Nuclear power plants take 5 years to plan and 5 years at least to build if everything goes perfect.They don't have to be big ones. We can factory produce small scale reactors today and just start shitting them out while the larger ones are under construction. The size of reactors used for navy vessels are proven reliable technology that we just need to be making more of.
>>520183979They sensationalized it in lack of contesting proof at the time, the media gained money, organizations gained money, some awarness on our effect on the environment was gained(which is good).In the more recent 20 years or so, it's been found that earth goes through natural warming and cooling cycles. We are only accelerating the current warming cycle. We will adapt to it, just like we adapted to the Ice Age before it and the slow warming until now.Climate change was thought to be caused entirely by us when the Ozone layer craze was going on and we didn't know shit yet.Global warming is not and never was apocalyptic, it's something unavoidable we need to prepare for instead of pissing against the wind about it.
>>520197286Fake and gay conspiracy by the DuPont family
Bill was obviously on the list and is bending the knee.
>>520183979>be bill gates>buy up all the farmland >now climate change rules are getting in the way of your mega farms>"lol, i was mistaken, let's roll back a few laws that hurt the farmers"
>>520183979no. he's just softening his stance because it's hopeless to combat it now
>>520184313They did a big documentary I remember in 2005. The end of oil. Kek. And it was literally a reason a lot of doomsday preppering cults started
>>520183979it was a scam, but it backfired incredibly when China actually built solar panels and batteries and sold them, kek, the gravy train derailed
>>520183979always was, kid
>>520201059>>520201142You need to work on your bots, surly they can check to see if another bot replied with the same post but you'll need white programmers for that. Jeets are not smart, we're just good liars that will promise you the world while picking your pocket.t.Jeet
>>520204209>I skip capital entirely because an existential threat is beyond capital by its nature, and it opens up a big can of worms. Addressing one isnt a matter of cost, but necessity; this is the internalized logic of the problem. The reason they dont implment it IS the capital; it's not worth the trade because it's not real. I leave that implied in the structure.This is half baked. You're ruling out capital while you can see capital has not ruled it out; insurance companies are more and more restructuring and leaving costal areas and corporate interference pushes greatly against climate science. It figures that the industrial side would push solutions to the consumer side and turn cow emissions into a false target wedge issue.The idea that climate change not being a giant meteor on a clear collision course with Earth that, if unaddressed, would do more than ruin oceanfront property, must be fake if it isn't addressed as such ignores what climate change is and can be. Making your metric of concern "the billionaires building luxury bunkers and restructuring the areas they provide insurance coverage to aren't meaningfully interested in solving this problem right now" doesn't make sense.
>>520183979KILL THE HERETIC!!! KILL HIM!!!
>>520184453>none of them will ever be revoked again.that depends who you and all the people in your nation vote foryou voted for unlimited immigration and stabbings every dayyou voted for paying taxes on non-green energyits all up to you and your people, it is that simple
>>520184313Technically our oil output cratered and then went way back up once fracking got better. This happened in the mid 2000's
it's always like this, kek>so should we let the guy who got it right run things instead of you>no no, it was impossible to know at the time... the science has changed
>>520204993no they dont you can have them up and running in six months
>>520183979I guess the Epstein list is still there and being used now
>>520206047Ours as in the US
>>520190577>Why are only white people in the West told they need to slam on the brakes ?Do you have late stage retardation ?
>>520191474>>520191474Grok what is China's pollution atm ?
>>520183979He knows that people wants to fucking kill him after the bullshit he's pushed in the past 5 years alone
>>520183979His think tank handlers said they need more electricity and water for AI data centers so the climate change agenda is on hold.
>>520205964bro, it doesn't matter what fucking party you vote for, none of them ever revoke those taxes again.we still have fucking taxes around that were supposed to fund the imperial navy.no politician will ever go>damn, you know what, I'd have less budget available to me and my party!it simply doesn't happen
>>520183979Why so surprised?You're the stupid fuck who believed the words that come out of the lying cunt mouths of the anti-American globohomo cabal members.
>>520206301they will probably just steal the electricity from your house and not build a single power plant, like the "build back better" scam, kek, that's if the AI scam makes it to the end of the year
>>520184081>30 years30? They've been screeching and seething about it here for over 50 years.This article is older then me, from 25th of January..1972, saying>"we have 10 years to stop the disaster"How did that doomsday go for you..
>>520204993>With carbon capture of course.ok tranny
>>520203359ozone layerhivcholesterolwarmisinformationstructured investment vehiclesis coffee good for you?
>>520207467https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/07/carbon_capture_in_iceland__oh_the_irony.html
>>520207821carbon capture is retarded
>>520193768The dominant scientific theory right now is that oil is abiotic and is simply the result of minerals + immense pressure without needing any biological materials. So, yes, it is actually a renewable resource, we just don't know how renewable it is.
>>520203359trvke
>>520202492In the city nature doesn't need bugs anymore as people like you have successfully replaced their purpose. Thanks for outing yourself. If you miss insects I will happily nail you to the front of my truck and staple your mouth open so you can catch them all.
>>520204582obama bought this
>>520205670You missed the nuance completely and are arguing your opinion. I dont care to discuss capital because it's not relevant to my argument, and can be levered in the way you suggested to legitimize "climate science". I dont care what it can be, that's the argument presented, I care what it is: nothing backed by flawed methodology and hyperbole. You're confusing correlation with causation, and the link is tenuous. Costal areas are always higher risk. Floods make insurance in costal areas cost more due to the proximity to water. Climate change may or may not cause floods, that's irrelevant, but it is a great way to justify higher premiums. And once climate change is presented, the outcome is irrelevant because it justifies any natural disaster by design, and the metrics become a tautology; the cost increases justify "climate science" because if it wasnt real, why did number go up?The bunkers have nothing to do with climate change, that's a gnostic assumption. They have to do with geopolitical instability and existential ennui as much as anything.
>>520189049>nobody ever talk about this , only about co2Thats the point of Greta style climate change fighters and ideaThey focus on co2 and climate while distracting from poisoning your food supply with gmo and other cancersAlso every political idea has violence but somehow the environmentalist only had Uncle Ted and normal greta fans never dare think once of even cutting thr diesel and petrol pipes on local gas station
>>520209660What it is is something that has been reacted to, but not in a way that you see as legitimate in your framework. You're saying the methodology is flawed while spending this thread attacking it from a game theory angle, ignoring evidence and even capital reasonings to place it squarely on how you think reaction should be as if it's immediately catastrophic.I'd type more but the thread is dead. Have a good life.
