What is the tactical benefit of turning a 3 day operation into a 1346 day war? Besides losing over milion people, 10k tanks, 400 planes and getting your rafineries smoked while entire moscow loses electricity?
>>5203330606 million kazzilion
>>520333060Mostly it's about spreading nato thin over 3 theaters, Europe, mid East and Asia. Russia will do Europe, Iran mid East and China Asia. It was never ment to be 3 day operation it was a start of ww3 and this is why Trump wants to make a peace and free nato forces from Europe theater and its samw reason he won't get it
>>520333169>It was never ment to be 3 day operationlollmao
>>520333169NATO hasn't even joined the war with boots on the ground yet. We're just sending old equipment that would have to be scrapped soon anyway and providing intel. What are you talking about?
>>520333345Officially means nothing. War is war and it only escalates. You will see. China Iran and Russia would be idiots to let NATO wiggle out of Ukraine quagmire. They are bleeding fast same as they were when Iran bombed Israel, simpy to much money wasted they had to stop.Bleeding wars in Europe mid East are a good thing for enemies of nato, they use cheaper shit and in the long run they benefit.
NAFO commits suicide.
>>520333460>to much money wastedThe total military aid given to Ukraine by NATO is about $80 billion. The annual NATO military spending is about $1.2 trillion.We've given Ukraine 7% of our annual spending in total. Throughout the whole war.
>>520333060Dude got Je Baited by his close BFF Generals, and now he cant back out with out looking like a pussy. Give it a few more years and he will give up, or gets taken out and a worse guy gets in Nuking Ukraine and starting a proper WW3
>>520333169If that was possible and not liquid copium, russia would have been involved in syria against israel. they lost tartus because they couldn't spare more troops.
>>520333460More like NATO trapped Russia in a quagmire so they can focus on Asia.
>>520333596We've literally eliminated 1M of ruskie troops, over 10k tanks and 400 planes for 7% of our annual spending. I think that's a pretty big W for NATO.
>>520333060Defeating NATO and western word order by exposing them as powerless paper tigers both economically and military wise. Getting red of Ukrainian nazis, making sure most of them flee country or die in trenches. Reestablishing Russia as world power and cementing the multipolar world system instead of crumbling "rule based order".But most importantly - making western fags seeth daily and be unable to cope with reality thus daily making threads trying to validate the crumbling fake world view they had in their minds that does nto correspond with reality and leaves them shocked at that realization.
>>520333826>>520333724The only military that turned out to be a paper tiger is russian.
>>520333060The lulz
>>52033402850 countries together lost and are unable to do anything asbout that paper tiger. Before that, they had reputation, now - they are a joke.
>>520334271>50 countries together lostAre they aware they lost?Where is NATO airforce and navy?
>>520333826Ohh is that why the war since 2014 hasn't ended yet? because NATO is a PaperTiger and we simply can't defeat the glorious Russia in Donbas and Luhansk >>520334271ah yes the "50" countries. Yes im sure your North Korean Soldiers really helped you there in getting your land back, while Not a single NATO soldier died.
>>520333060Year 12 of the 48-hour Anti Terrorist Operation.Is the ukraine still losing?
>>520334425>Where is NATO airforce and navy?You should ask yourself that question. If they are so capable, where are they?
>>520334503>>520334425let remind Russia has lost multiple ships to a country with out a Navy on a land based war. Meanwhile their Navy soldiers are on the frontlines of Ukraine
>>520334503>If they are so capable, where are they?Maybe they are not at war?Where is the long range strikes with cruise and ballistic missiles on pidor territory? Maybe someone forgot to tell 50 countries they are losing?
>>520334474You perfectly realize all you post is a cope. The reality is you lost. You are out of tools. Out of options. You can only grudgingly mourn until you are forced to admit defeat and failure.This thread exsist BECAUSE you were humiliated an lost. So you powerlessly seek fake validation for your copes.We? We on other hand just enjoy the victory and seeing your world order failing in last agonyzing breathes.
>>520334634So where are they? Why arent they striking? What stops them?
>>520334662very poor bait
>>520333060What does the peach colour mean?
>>520334591>country with out a Navyyou forget to mention how it came to that
>>520334701>So where are they?At home? Maybe they are not at war?You are losing against Ukraine despite help from China, North Korea and Iran.Enjoy your power outages. There will be more.
>>520334772So why are they at home? Why arent they saving you?
>>520333060The real reason is that Putin and his cronies are stuck in a unwinnable situation. They can't just pack up and go home and expect everything to be fine. Putin needs a win and he'll keep searching for that win, no matter how far fetched it may be because the alternative is him losing his head.Either way Russia is fucked in so many different ways.
>>520334811>So why are they at home?Because they are not at war?Funny how 50 countries managed to lose without even showing up, right?
>>520333826NATO hasn't done shit and russia is already collapsing. You are a weak chihuahua.
>>520333169>>520333249I had to jump into this thread to see if this was real lol the cops is strong in this kraut
>>520334811Why aren't you? if its such a great war and so important to Tsar Putin. Why aren't you helping him? Aren't You The "Russian" one People and same like Ukrainians? go help your brother fight against NATO! You are winning aren't you? So should be a good easy help on top of additional your 2x yearly salary for Volunteering to join the army. I mean i'm sure you will get paid or your family if you die.. not a sack of potatoes..
>>520334975Cope****
>>520334903You are awoiding question. Why an apparantly 50 countries on your side cant defeat your enemy or even help you win? If they are so cool it shold be easy to intervent and defeat Russia, isnt it?
>>520334981>whyBECAUSE we are wining and there is no draft in Russia?Meanwhile YOU will be deported back for Busification soon enougth since Ukraine is running out of men
>>520335035>You are awoiding question.You mean just like you avoided my question about NATO airforce and navy?
>>520335087https://apnews.com/article/russia-military-conscription-draft-ukraine-war-9849511e45f7b7db596103fd71e69baehttps://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/10/28/russia-moves-to-year-round-military-draft-amid-wartime-manpower-needs-a90962Another lie from our media then?
>>520335126So where is the mythical NATO airforce and Navy? Why arent they bombing Moscow right now?
>>520335035You Keep Saying "50 Countries" are those 50 countries in the Room with us? in Ukraine?Can you even name us all the 50 Countries you keep saying? Just for clarification for us, cheers.
>>520335216t. retard doesnt know what Conscription is
>>520335273Why would they? They have you stuck and they get to focus on China who is an actual threat.
>>520335273>So where is the mythical NATO airforce and Navy? You tell me. You are the one saying how 50 countries are losing without even showing up.
>>520335288Threes actually more than 50, more like 80. And yes, many of those are in Ukraine - mostly as dead bodies and fertilizer now.But again, its my question - WHERE are they?>>520335315another cope, copes are litterally all west has nowadays, since every single day is a new failure. Litterally whole western world order was defacto destroyed and now being restructuralized.
>>520333060Ukraine has lost 25 million people
>>520335293>>520335087"BECAUSE we are wining and there is no draft in Russia?""t. retard doesnt know what Conscription i"Literally the same thing, forced into the army by the government.>>520335273Where is your Navy blowing up Kyiv? No Planes in sight while drones are flying in Moscow. I mean if you allegedly Control whole of Ukraine why is Moscow being attacked blown up?
>>520334811NATO is not at war. We are just sending old equipment and giving intel.But I know you have to eat up the propaganda about russia fighting entire HAHO to somehow explain the massive failure this war is on your part.
>>520335443how is the same thing? switzerland has ongoing conscription, they aren't being drafted
>>520335340YOU are losing. Meanwhile west tried every option and still failed. Inability to protect its interests in direct conflict is a catastrophic loss.>>520335443>Where is your Navy blowing up Kyiv?oh so your are just completely ignorant retard living in fantasy world, damn wasted time. I forgot people who actually haze zero clue still exist, not surprising in such propaganda and lies heavy countries.>>520335521NATO is litterally in WW3 and already lost it by all means.
>>520335636>NATO is litterally in WW3 and already lost it by all means.>>520333724Doesn't seem like loosing to me.
Russia has taken valuable land in Ukraine. Both Ukraine and Russia have lost a lot of people. Russia is "winning" but unless this slow grind turns into a front collapse, it's not that good. In a few years, NATO will have more trash equipment to offload onto Ukraine and Ukraine will send more conscripts to die with the Russian conscripts.Eventually there'll be a point where there's nobody left to die for Zelensky, the American oligarchs, or Putin. The bloodthirsty NAFO troons aren't lining up to go die after years of seeing their volunteers get blown up by drones, the Ukrainian middle class mostly moved to Europe (this is bad for the US), and Russia is also running out of poorfags to send.If nothing else, then a lot of people have died for nothing, and the US is a little bit closer to failing.
>>520335690>Doesn't seem like loosing to me.You made this threat, as thats the only thing you and "nato" can do. Tryign to cope with a loss.
>>520335636>west tried every optionHow about bombing pidorasha to shit with airforce and navy? You know, actually doing war stuff, you are at war with NATO, right?
>>520335739ignore the thread give me a pancake recipe
russoids>this is existential for us, nato is about to attack!also russoids>all your weapons are worthless. ackshully, our weapons can defeat all your weapons xaxaxathe duality of turd worldism
>>520335781So, how about it? You tell me?
>>520334811Why are you so churkaminded?
>>520333169>It was never ment to be 3 day operationhe said it again
>>520335922waiting for the 80 countries that are at war with Russia.
>>520335922You are not getting bombed by huge NATO airforce and navy with thousands of missiles like they did in Iraq or Serbia.So I'm telling you, they are not at war. Yet.But you just can't stop begging to get bombed into the stone age.
>>520335941Why arent you answering my question? If NATO can defeat Russia, why arent they?You know reality perfectly well. We already killed more Hohols than NATO has troops combined, all their gear and wunderwaffes turned to be shit and are paraded in Moscow, they fail to track and intercept few random stray drones and are completely not reaty for kind of warfare going on in Ukraine now, they ran out of gear to send you emptying own stockpiles, they cant produce together 1/4 of shells we produce monthly. YOU are the best "NATO" can do. An no navy and air force would change anything, since we have capability to strike deep anywhere in Europe as well. "NATO" is a joke. We are shooting more rockets at Ukraine nightly than NATO in Europe has ready at all.
>>520336110So WHY arent we bombed by by huge NATO airforce and navy with thousands of missiles like they did in Iraq or Serbia?
>>520336191Maybe because they are not at war?
>>520333060Bleeding out NATO> losing over milion peopleYou need to realize russians are asians and don't give a fuck.
>>520336003Ah fuck, even the rabbit has the left eye
>>520336161Because NATO isn't at war, perhaps? How would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast?
>>520333169>It was never ment to be 3 day operation it was a start of ww3 This.>and this is why Trump wants to make a peace and free nato forces from Europe theater and its samw reason he won't get itWrong, Trump is a russian agent and an integral part of the communist long term strategy. Specifically, isolating and balkanizing the US and breaking apart NATO so Europe is unprotected.
Useless war, I hope it ends soon
>>520336219But they are. Its a cope to pretend they arent involved. A loss is a loss. Nothing is changed by that. So, all that military alliance and dozens of other supporting countries cant deal with 1 little Russia?>>520336355again, cope. It is in war and this war is critical for it, and with defeat it it, its losses are massive.
>>520336161>If NATO can defeat Russia, why arent they?Because we aren't at war with you, and you know that, otherwise you would have already nuked Berlin.
>>520336191Cause you aren't at war with NATO you moron. You should really stop watching RT and Russia1 TV. If Russia is at war with NATO, where is the war in Finland? Sweden? Estonia? Latvia? Lithuania? Or you can only have war with "NATO" only in Ukraine somehow?The funny part is you are so brainwashed that you think you are at War with NATO that CHINA is literally going to rape you in the next decade, economically and militarily you literally lost eastern Siberia to them while wasting your time fighting Ukraine for 0 real reason.
>>520336161Ehm, what was that Russia?
>>520336426>But they are.So they are at war without their army which is focused on air superiority?
>>520336403I also hope ruskies realize they can't win and withdraw from Ukraine.
>>520336461>>520336488>>520336528cope and a lieIts you who should be asking wheres NATO troops bombing Moscow. The answer is theres none and the reason is simple - it lost proxy war and cant win in direct war, thus rendereing western military force as complete joke and NATO irrelevant.
>>520336528>So they are at war without their army which is focused on air superiority?So why arent they using their army focused on air superiority? Could it be because they dont have air supriority over Russia? Or that their airfields and infrastructure anywhere in Europe can be hit, just like yours are?
>>520336426You wouldn't notice if NATO goes to war, that's true
>>520336640I legitimately cannot wait until you finally fuck around and find out the hard way. I can spend the two weeks it's going to take in a trench just to see that.
>>520336757So far its YOU who fucked around, found out and now panicing like a chicken?
>>520336698>So why arent they using their army focused on air superiority?Maybe because they are not at war?>Could it be because they dont have air supriority over Russia?pidor, please. You are getting bombed by Ukraine every night. Any airfield and infrastructure anywhere in pidorasha can be hit by our drones, hitting them with missiles would be even easier.
>>520336887>pidor, please. You are getting bombed by Ukraine every night. Any airfield and infrastructure anywhere in pidorasha can be hit by our drones, hitting them with missiles would be even easier.So, how many more weeks until Ukraine wins?please answer before your electricity is cut for good.
>>520336851I have found out we can wipe out most of your active military + refineries without even putting boots on the ground and involving assets other than intel. A real war would last for at most 2 weeks.
>>520333249inb4 "Russian state media doesn't count!"
>>520337165Your real war lasts 11 years already, first 8 of which against miners with WW2 tier weapons.
>>520337118>please answer before your electricity is cut for good.lollmao evenEnjoy your blackouts, pidor.
>>520333060By losing, Moscow's claims that this isn't a war but a defensive special military operation gain credence.*taps head*
>>520337211And yet russia keeps loosing people and equipment without our direct involvement. We can wait, we are patient.
>>520336640Ukraine bombs Moscow all the time, why wouldn't NATO be able to?
>>520334740>you forget to mention how it came to thatGenerations of incompetent kleptocratic leadership?
>>520337211>>520337118The point has never been to destroy russia.The point is to demonstrate how weak you are to the world and relegate you to 2nd rate regional power bullying Estonia and uh, Turkmenistan, for the rest of the century.You shouldn't have fucked around in Syria. You made us do this to you. Now stay in Russia.
>>520336640what's with this fathom of "NATO Bombing Moscow" why its always NATO and always something to do with Bombing Moscow...
>>520337266You can eat losses and cope.>>520337292Because then we bomb NATO. Ukraine already getting pounded daily. As practice shown, NATO is not even able to intercept few drones successfully.
>>520337474"Ukraine Loosing" only has 20% of total land mass. Not Even Half. Nor even a quarter.
>>520337420its a cope and you are well aware of it. So far all that was demonstrated is complete powerlessness of NATO and west in general. Littearlly Myth of NATO capabilities was busted, its weapons paraded in Moscow, the western world order crumbling. You litterally enabled the multipolar world by proving you arent able to play the hegemon role and exposing both your military AND economical weakness.
>>520335549The red border does not contain Russians. The green border contains 20-30M Russians, now temporarily called 'ukranians'.
>>520337515Ukraine loosing ALL of its military and military aged men, failing the war it started in 2014 with goal of retaking Donbass and losing more regions in process. Our goal never was conquest of Ukraine, but the longer this goes on, the more territories it`ll lose.
>>520337669>failing the war it started in 2014 with goal of retaking DonbassThe war started when pidors invaded Crimea while lying how it's not their soldiers.
>>520337575You've been fighting in your own back yard for years buddy. You're a regional power only due to size and population. Unable to save or help your allies in Syria, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela etc. Whatever remnants of the Soviet world still exist will be swept away by 2050, including Weissrussland...tick tock Igor.
>>520333060I don’t know, what’s benefit of you wasting the last 3 years of your life posting every day about some random war between shithole countries that has nothing to do with you?
>>520337669>Our goal never was conquest of UkraineLame kremlinoid talking point. I am a westoid but there is no reason for a Russian to fight if not for reuniting the russian world (RU+UA+BY).
>>520337742>war>without single bullet firedThe "war" started when nazi organization started taking over administrations in western Ukraine, legal goverment of Ukraine was couped and replaced by Yazenuk and Turchinov, bandit battalions were formed by nazis and criminals and Kiev junta started military attack on Donbass.We are litterally liberators of Ukraine and we`ll clean it up from you scum. Meanwhile come to Crimea and get beat up by every local, theres no one in Russia hating your more.
>>520337781meanwhile reality:you and all your buddies you hoped so much for - lost. All you can do is cope.
>>520337742Your jew government has already said you are going to be replaced by indians and congolese the moment the war ends.Your only chance of survival is the reunification with Russia.
>>520337941>without single bullet firedTypical pidor lies.pidors killed Ukrainian soldiers in cartographic center but you just keep repeating this lies over and over.Not even interested in reading your post further, because lying is an integral part of your pidor culture.
>>520337941The war started when russian niggers decided to invade Ukraine because they needed to burn, loot, murder other countries.
>>520337879Ignorance and retarded brain.Until 2022 Russia was not even recognizing DNR/LNR and was pushing for them staing parts of Ukraine. Only Crimia was non disputable since was of strategic importance. Until 2023 there was no goal of incorporating new lands into Russia.There always were options to solve this peacefully and its west and hohol junta that rejected all of them.
>>520338044I will love to see your face when ZOG floods you with 10M indians and nigerians.You will miss this moment in which you can still save yourself and reunify with Russia.
>>520338044majority of Crimean military joined Russian militaryThe one living in the fakescape of lies is you. More over you are AWARE YOU are the EVIL and LIAR. So desperatre repeat of hypocrite losungs is so important to you - without beliving in them, you are miserable and cursed, for you are failure of a human being.As i said, you are all but the most dumb people are actually aware of reality. But the guilt and shame wont let you reform. So we`ll be removing you other way.
>>520333596There's no way in hell that Ukraine hasn't received a trillion worth of shit lol
killing traitor hohols is a benefit unto itself. they must be crushed and their state crippled
>>520333169Correct with the added benefit of fracturing the superficial “alliance” in NATO; Putin has played it perfectly showing trump would never go along with article 5 leaving Europe defensively and at the mercy of Russia. Winter is coming
>>520338219One of the most pathetic and disingenuous talking points considering there's literally videos of Russia flooding captured cities like Mariupol with Muslims
>>520338307Defenseless*
>>520338121You brain on kremlinoid propaganda.Start reading Strelkov and stop ingurgitating that liberal globohomo judeopositive slop coming from monke's media.
>>520338069the war started when west completely forfeited diplomacy and replaced dialogue with propaganda and programming with lies like you repeat. Hence, the only means of communication remaining was war. You dont understand, dont listen, cant be reasoned with in good fait hence you are told in language you understand.
>>520338121Russia started this war in 2014 by invading Crimea. Putin always intended to conquer all of Ukraine. And now his massive failure has shown the whole world how weak russia is. You are violent untrustable niggers but fortunately you are just an insignificant chihuahua yapping.Everything you said is a lie, and we all know it. Russians lie like they breathe.
>>520337474>You can eat losses and cope.Can you point me to any NATO territory we've lost?
>>520338330A few muslims from muslim regions of Russia is a completely different animal than a full blown racial replacement program the jew government in Kiev is cooking quite in the open.You shouldn't be in denial of this reality.
>>520338424>don't believe what you see, we didn't invade them Power of cognitive dissonance is amazing sometimes, going 4 years strong now
>>520338386I been observing the events directly, from the early days of Maidan. Visiging Ukrainian nationalists forums, seeing events in Slavyansk and Odessa in real time (litterally), early fights in Mariupol and how unarped people happily marched in Luhansk and Donezk hanging in Zello with Donezk and Luhansk people.You tell me more about Propaganda. I learned so much i have zero mercy for anyone who supports hohole remige now.
>>520338570>Ackchually it's not that bad Kek I accept your concession shill
>>520334662>We? We on other handIvan, why are you cowardly posting on american imageboard instead of fighting alongside your comrades?What are you afraid of? Your comrades will only rape you a little before sending you to the front, you know that, right? It's not that big of a deal.
>>520338424Liar. You always wanted this war because you cannot go against your nature of being violent lying thieving niggers. You will learn far too late of how bad of a mistake you did. The terms of your unconditional surrender will not be kind.
>>520333169>Reveal your equipment and manufacturing capabilities to be poorly maintained and ineffective>Lose millions of people>Make BRICS realize you can't even effectively project power in your own backyard, let alone themselves>This is somehow beating NATOEuro flags have the most retarded takes. Must be why we have to constantly bail you out of shit.
Another cold war in which Russia eventually economically collapses from an arms race it cannot win is incoming.
>>520335713Russia has lost a measly 200-300k churka volunteers, the professional army does nothing but the fancy stuff
>>520338550The World. West led by USA used to be a world hegemon, but no longer. The loss in Ukraine, along with other failures led to collapse of western based order, fragmentations of world trade and establishing of multipolar world where West becomes isolationist and weak and disconnected from the rest of the world, rapily losing both economic and other influence and becoming just a backyard of retarded losers exploited by USA.
>>520333345Nato has lost over 10k 'boots on the ground' mostly advisors and weapon operators.You're a fool.
>>520338758kek
>>520338635>Euro flags have the most retarded takesIts because 60% of these posts are by Russian diaspora which tends to be overly deranged and patriotic (which is incredibly ironic, but it's even the case for putins closest family who also live in Western Europe lmfao)Then there's 30% confused natives who either god brainwashed during the Cold War or are retarded reactionaries as is often the case on pol.The remaining 10% are just Russian vpns
>>520338620I answered that.We are winning. Life in Russia is peaceful and prosperous. Meanwhile Ukraine and werst is loosing, why arent you helping them?
>>520338609None of what you said happened. Are you lying or are you mentally handicapped enough to have believed the obvious lies from kremlin? You need to finally realize how weak you are. Russia is weak. Your economy will collapse and you will then beg for mercy. I will enjoy renting your sister's pristine pussy for the price of a pack of cigs. The 90s are coming back baby.
>>520338684its ironic reading that from Germany that IS economically collapsing right now
>>520333060They're eventually going to win and keep the land and it's really good land and it's worth the cost for the long-term survival of Russiahope that helps
>>520338814>Russia is peaceful and prosperous
>>520338835nice, keep rejecting reality. It`ll sure help you.. until a day you cant turn away no more and your world shatters.
>>520338570btw why isn't Russia relaying 24/7 the declarations of Zelensky and other jews about the racial replacement program for post-war Ukraine ? Because judeopositive kremlinoids don't want the slightest nationalist talking point to be used in the war.Monke must be couped and somebody like Strelkov must be put in his place or Russia is toast and any hope of defeating ZOP is toast with it.
>>520338772Do you have a list of those 10k? Also how many Boris Johnsons?
>>520338938cutehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLzFX3XexlAhttps://youtu.be/CLfVNSqaoV4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UogST2om1Ehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS1rUorOBAwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc2_ElqJpJkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCXS4a30OJQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cug7c6yHLNUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCYkhkzxRSshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHzWLdWdo8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9dmeMMGKYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axEM7XeaX6Yhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJVnNoV5oUEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3VHazdcwmMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv6aIKNLqqA
>>520338758>West becomes isolationist and weakyou have to use shadow fleets to sell your main export resource lol
>>520333169If I was Putin I would be fucking pissed at Xi and Khamenei. Terrible allies. That would mean that Xi and Khamenei are just hanging Putin and Russia out to dry? Xi and Khamenei are actually NATO allies? This doesn't make sense in that context.
>>520333060This war sucks and has done nothing to improve my opinion of Russia and Ukraine.
>>520338814>1.2 million rusniggers dead or maimed>21% interest rates>nationalization of industries>food prices tripled in a year>gas rationing>less than 10% have heat and water>conscripts sent to the frontline meatwavesYes, you are prosperous and peaceful.
>>520333249>Decapitation strike fails>Still raping your country in to the groundYou fucking niggers are the palestinians of europe
>>520333060At least, we don't have churkas in our cities
>>520339010Now show me something that isn't one the two biggest cities lol.
>>520339242Yet. You don't have churkas yet. You will, and poos too.
>>520339284Roads are an evil globohomo thing. Based trad russians do not need roads.
>>520338814>WeYou are doing nothing, Ivan. You are cowardly hiding in your room, shivering in fear from the war at your doorstep.You are afraid of combat, and you would piss yourself the moment you will be forced to fight.You are a nobody. A draft dodger. Nobody respects little cowards like you.
>>520339401And toilets inside homes apparently.
>>520333460China is currently the usa in the ramp up to WW2. They might not have the armaments yet but they are putting everything they have into implementing their new doctrine and outfitting their army while not overly financially engaged in the current conflict. They are using the war to build out industry instead of depleting old stocks. They are building massive hardened aa bunkers and millions and millions of small drones. Everyone constantly talks shit about how they make cheap dogshit. Yes and they have weaponized that ability with terrifying efficiency. America is still focused on multimillion dollar missiles while China focuses on sub $200 drones.... China is currently pumping out 6million fpv drones a year and that isn't on a war economy. The drones we were just bragging about failed all military testing.https://dronexl.co/2025/10/31/peter-thiel-backed-stark-defence-fails-all-four-strikes/They are planning to operate with massive losses while the pours more money into old ideology.
>>520333060>What is the tactical benefit of turning a 3 day operation into a 1346 day war?Clearly for the purposes of making you seethe.Are these posts supposed to push the russian army back or regain all the land ukraine lost for getting into bed with nato?
>>520339668I love when people hype china up, because it's an even bigger paper tiger than russia.
>>520339725I don't care about Ukrainian land. All I care about is our biggest opponent bleeding itself dry in Ukrainian fields for 7% of our annual military spending.
remember when Portugal was hot shit
>>520339655Indoors plumbing is western decadence.
>>520334716Take it from an american that knows ukraine is a puppet government run by the CIA. Ukraine has lost and average americans are done pissing away money on nato for this lost cause. So unless you want to give up some of your public benefits to start funding your own war machine, ukraine will continue to be fucked and on the losing end of this conflict.
>>520339863I like this level of attrition good work good jobputin planning i bet ;)
>>520339762Kek don't you have black people to feed. Get to work their hungry
>>520333060>What is the tactical benefit of turning a 3 day operationStill waiting on a Russian MOD source for the 3 day operation claim.
>>520339959>Take it from an americanLol sure thing Ivan.
>>520337205She says 2 days.And is referring to a hot war.
>>520337634>The green border contains 20-30M Russians, now temporarily called 'ukranians'.they are citizens of other states.states that russia recognized with their populations and borders.
>>520333060I dunno but it seems tohave workedsince he controls all his wargoals and then some, and has done so for sometime now.>But muh KyivIt's literally just the somanieth Crimea war, big guess what the point of it is.
>>520340370>he controls all his wargoalsAhahahaha, he doesn't even control all the land he "officially" made russian.
>>520340459...Did you land a boat full of dead men on Crimea's shores again or was it just real in your head again?Last i looked he controlled Crimea, a landbridge and a eegular bridge to it as well as ~80% of the Donbass.
>>520340064This fucking quagmire has only be made worse by you morons insisting on building more missile bases on their border. The fact that you guys joined nato has only turned you into a fucking target. If you faggots had any sense you'd stay neutral like the original agreements had always intended. Now you are in all likelihood going to dragged into a larger conflict right when most americans want to pull out of nato all together. We make up 68% of defense expenditure amongst member states and when we pull out and stop raping proxy states all of you are completely fucked with or without war breaking out. You'll be funding your own defense until there is nothing enjoyable about your own countries left.
>>520333060Because of this war Trump alianiated the entire world with tariffs and brought BRICS closer togheter, China and India now are more deeply connected with Russia and the EU economy has become a shithole due to expensive energy and de industrialization. Dedollarization has begun and countries have started to see that even after being sanctioned by the entire world their economy can still survive. Maybe it was better that russia failed their initial invasion
>>520333060Isn't that map pretty outdated?
>>520340634You may be overestimating the burdens of funding your own defense, Europe has always been great because of its strife and competition, not despite it.We have poststamps that conquered continents, NATO is more of a restraining harness against that.
>>520340799that's a really pompous attitudeIt sounds European
>>520340634Look at this butthurt zigger. He is seething that Finland and Sweden joined NATO and that makes him very afraid. All you had to do was not chimpout like violent niggers. You reap what you sow. It was a direct consequence of you invading a peaceful neighbor because you wanted to conquer and loot and rape more.
guys did you know that Russia is LE BAD??? Check it out dude[insert random video of guy getting killed]Anyways, I gotta go, i need to go make this same exact fucking thread 50 more times, because that’s totally something a normal person does!
>>520340929he's right you pompous dickhead
>>520340884It definitely is, and rightfully so.We walked over the face of the earth, not because we were superior but because they were inferior.And in our absence they have reverted to their inferior ways, meaning we need only revert to inferiorising influence to dominate them again.Celebration of inferior islamic shitskin cultures is like presenting your holes to be fucked.
>>520341022you and the German aren't even addressing actual facts on the ground you're just talking in the sky with your head in the clouds
>>520339863Ukraines land produces vastly more food than surrounding countries. Armies march on their stomach. We've now handed that land to the russians when all we had to do to avoid it was honor our original agreements after the USSR fell. But no we had to continuously expand nato and build missle bases on russias border. This whole fucking conflict didn't need to happen. The responsible for escalating this shit should be hanged.
>>520333060Killing the opponent? What is the tactical benefit of landing a helicopter rod special force straight in the line of fire?
>>520333169That's might have been the plan at one point but it's safe to say they failed
>>520341061every other week I used to read about how Bush was trying to install those fucking missiles in Poland and in Finland, how we couldn't do it in UkraineYou're fucking right dude I remember reading it I remember how Russia acted during it and this is the fallout
>>520339550>using draft dodger as an insult>on polIf you actually WANT to die in these stupid wars for neocon Zios, /k/eddit is more your speed.Chances are if you were Ukrainian, you'd have been with the other people with an internet subscription, fleeing for other countries.
>>520341048Indeed, what facts then?That Ukraine is getting shot up and only our dying political caste needs to die with them for it to not be our problem?And that said caste is also what protects the islamic shitskins here?Such a pity that the Israelis stopped tormenting you.
>>520341199 facts usually aren't not phrased as questions
>>520341061>honor our original agreementsWhich ones? The only one who broke agreements was russia. In fact russia has always broken every agreement they have ever had, in their entire history.
>>520341243Yes, that's why rhetorical questions are usually not considered genuine questions.But thanks for further emphasizing their complete absence in your posts, claimed or otherwise.
>>520341061That's yesterday bullshit, today the goal is to destroy Russia. Get with the times caveman. Ukraine can strike Russia now and will continue to do so until Russia gives up. Pleasing Russia didn't work.
>>520341318put your money where your mouth is faggots go pay for your own fucking defense
>>520339284>Now show me something that isn't one the two biggest cities lol.You could have just asked him to show you anything not within 5-6km of each other. Even Moscow gets progressively more dystopian as you move outwards, to a point where you are not sure whether you are in a favela or a capitol.
>>520341336Why again are we supposed to care about either side's victory?Ukraine has cost us a lot more than Russia ever has.
>>520341425Because if Russia wins they'll have enough territory to install radars and military equipment near you, Netherlands. We in Portugal shouldn't care but you absolutely should. Russia is the one that started the war, they're the ones that cost us.
>>520341402Bold words little memeflag, but i notice the Americans are still here.Loathe to relinquish what remains of your influence, hmm?You have the most anti-Nato president ever yet you do everything in your power to keep him from "abandoning" us.Are you really surprised we noticed?
>>520341543Oh no not the radars.You're literally as close to Ukraine as we are you moron.
>>520341600We're in the tip of Europe retard. You're much closer.
>>520341644>We're in the tip of Europe retard. You're much closer.He is not European. If push comes to shove, he will escape to his birthplace south of the equator.
>>520341644Yes, as are we.Russia border literally moves no closer to us if Ukraine falls.
>>520341182>every other week I used to read about how Bush was trying to install those fucking missiles in Poland and in Finland, how we couldn't do it in UkraineWhat are you talking about? It sounds like you are confusing your zigger fantasies with reality again.
>>520336361>so Europe is unprotectedEuropeans murdered all of their babies in the womb and went on a 40 year drunken bender. The reason Europe is collapsing is because Europeans are evil greedy retards.>After nearly a century of the anglosphere bailing you out of your infantile decisions we are finally cutting the cord and giving you what you claimed to want all along: independence. Now you can deal with the Russians in person and we will sit back and make sure the smoke from your burning cities doesn't interfere with marine navigation.
>>520341311The 1990 James Baker told the russians directly that we would not expand nato eastward during negotiations. Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Finland, all were added to nato after we promised to not expand nato to russias borders in the 1990 german reunification talks. We went back on all of it and did it anyway.
>euro flag infighting ten seconds after usa pulls out of their ravaged pussy gap;)
>>520341749Hah, as if the shitskins ever dare celebrate our colonial empires.No, more likely you're describing your own plans, faggot.
>>520339284Imagine being a fake and gay faggot? Here's the actual border and roads. We live in an age where I just like it up in 5 seconds.
>>520341749Says the guy conquered by Russia.>>520341759Are you mentally dumb or just stupid? In Europe we're the farthest from Ukraine and Russia. You'd get some radar we're one of the few that would get nothing. This is not debatable, it's just you being really stupid.
>>520341797That "infighting" is what we used to conquer the world.Unlime you we didn't need to pretend to be an empire, to beg and threaten for every concession of "vassals".Trump realised this and pwith MAGA he unintentionally proclaimed: America is not great.
>>520341336WTF do I have to gain by going to war with russia? The joy of pissing away more american tax dollars on defending cunts like you? Most americans aren't even interested in lifting a finger for israel. Why in the fuck should any of us be interested in starting ww3 when we can barely even keep the lights on?
>>520341881>Mimimimi i don't know what Kaliningrad is!Retard.
>>520341543Moron this is your problem not ours.
>>520341781>The 1990 James Baker told the russians directly that we would not expand nato eastward during negotiations.Liar. We all have seen you lying russians post a screenshot of some supposed conversation where someone said that someone else said maybe NATO will not expand eastwards. But you know just as well as everyone else that no one ever said such a thing. No such promise was ever made.Link to an official NATO statement that says NATO promises to not expand eastwards, or admit you lied.
>>520341931Kaliningrad doesn't have radar. If they do they'll be crushed. NATO already warned Russia about this.
>>520341957So why haven't you pulled out yet?It's as trivial as letting them die.Almost as if you're willing to pay for your own inflience ops.
>>520341929>>520341957King Trump told you must care so you must. That's how it is. Hail Trump!
>>520341892>we cause infighting it makes us great!boring fags with a country population of twou won russia coz frost
>>520341984>Kalingrad doesn't have radarHa.Yes we've seen how seriously Russia takes NATO threats haven't we?
>>520341543Wow started a civili war woah man. Sounds like a whole not my problem thing. An ICBM could wipe you out io matter where they are you retard.
>>520341978The whole fucking point of not expanding nato to russias border was to disincentives rearmament you god damn retard. How much of a moron do you have to be in order to not understand the value of deterring nuclear war between two forces capable of glassing the whole earth.
>>520342064Try twenty million more like, it'll be true in a few years at this rate.No, we've always punched well above our weight, even Hitler's Germany envied that we managed to create an empire that didn't dissolve in decades.There's a reason the anglos call us the dutch, as we're the only true ones. Germany's just a collection of wannabes.
>>520341984LMAO.
I hate these stupid European faggots just like these welfare queenstalk shit coz they know we're gonna protect them to stave off the bigger fucking enemy
>>520342101Yeah but if they install those equipments they can do it with conventional weapons. That's why Europe is involved and USA is pretending they're not involved while helping anyway. Imagine if Mexico started a war with Texas and Texas was not part of USA. You wouldn't do anything? You'd just sit and say not my problem? You've crushed enemies for less.
>>520333060You can't quit because otherwise the whole world could see that the emperor isn't wearing clothes.
>>520341978Here's a fucking video of the famous line you god damn faggot. "Not one inch eastward".https://youtu.be/FPKBwwpNtD0Now admit that you are completely full of shit and have no clue what you are talking about.
>>520342301Sounds like a not my problem still. Sounds like a not your problem either you disingenuous retard. You were business partners before the war. Cheap gas no issues.
>>520342283>Mimimi i hate having to pay for my own interests!Cope, seethe, dilate.If you wish to leave then by all means do, we're long past tired of you.
>>520342221ur most famous for a fart under a blanketgood job euro cuckpay ur own defense bill
Canada is the biggest loser in this "war". So many filthy fucking Ukrainians all over the goddamn place. Maybe this was the plan all along? When all of this started I assumed Russia was going to roll over Ukraine in a weekend, the fact that this shit is still ongoing is a fucking joke. I don't even know what you niggers are still "fighting" over besides taking potshots and drone grenades over villages and creeks.
>>520341978He is telling the truth. The exact phrase was "not one inch eastwards". The fact that you don't know this highlights your overall ignorance about this conflict. Do your own research and stop tard sperging to spite the Russians.>There has been no strategic benefit to expanding NATO past Germany. Its only increased the carrying burden and empowered the abortion witches in Brussels. The sooner we recreate a central European buffer and shoot your EU commissioners in the face the better.
>>520342267Those are smallish for local defense. Kaliningrad was building a much bigger one and that's when NATO got nervous.
>>520342366yeah I rubbed my pussy this morning what's your point pay your fucking defense bill
>>520342409>Ballistic missile radar>Small>EXTREMELY LARGE DIAMETERLMAO.
>>520342386We already do, i just pointed out your contributions aren't valuntary nor in our favor.And great job for demonstrating your ignorance, i love how well Americans divide into "ignorant and proud" and "ignorant but pretends not to be".
>>520342442Why on earth would we pay for your retarded ploys?We want you to leave.
>>520342194Ya it was literally a reverse cuban missile crisis and if I remember correctly the plan for operation 316 was to basically wipe cuba off the map... Russia can't blockade Ukraine the way America could cuba. Literally forced their hand and knew they were doing it.
>>520342221>weEspinoza was a sephardic kike. The Dutch Republic was organized, funded, maintained, and birthed by kikes fleeing the inquisition. Without their leadership you would have remained swamp retards. Which is exactly the state you returned to after they migrated to England.
>>520342490Yeah that's not for offense, it's for defense. Not the big problem. The new one being built is the problem.
>>520342559Plus not in an intelligent way, which is my biggest gripr with the whole attempt.Russia is terrible at logistics yet for some reason the geniusses decided to mitigate that by warring in the one region for which that isn't true.
>>520342502Lmao 5 seconds in google always rips NATO tards apart.
>>520342600>Radar >Disrupting NATO communications>Not offenseYou are the dumbest tetard gorilla nigger. Lmao.
>>520333169>Russia will do EuropeI have no idea how this cope exist in ziglet minds. If Russia is planning on taking on Europe it probably was not the best idea to start out by attacking the most armed country on the continent, and in doing so burning through all of their tanks and vehicles and around ~200k men before you even take on Europe proper
>>520342709He is clearly either trolling or actually retarded just ignore him he just wants (((yous)))
>>520342589Indeed, why are they still here then? Why did our reign over continent sized colonies not end then?We have cooperated much with the English as well as fought with them, to us they owe their control over the Mediterranean.We still remember that little truth: Anglos are shit fighters, just good with allies.And that does win wars but little else.
>>520342709That one isn't finished yet. And there's another, search 2AB6. Those two are what NATO is nervous about. Currently Kaliningrad has early detection ballistic missile radars.
>>520336278How well are they bleeding out NATO though? Putin with his genius 12D chess managed to get Sweden and Finland to join NATO, get NATO countries to up their defence budgets significantly and create a hardened well trained ukranian military that before the smo was the poorest and probably weakest in Europe, while bankrupting his own country and having to beg third world countries for materiel. Bravo monke, bravo
>>520342647Yes if you can't read due to being upset because i suppose it does like that would be relevant.Lmao
>>520342814So? You said it didn't exist 5 seconds ago now you say it's there and not done what are you going to do so it it faggot? Nothing. That's right
>>520338286The iraq war cost 2 trillion dollars for america, so yeah 90 billion dollars makes sense.
>>520342841>We do>Didn't meet it till JUST LESS THAN A YEAR AGO>Act like you were a team player up till then
>>520342835Pretending not to notice our internal unrest, inflation and mounting other issues just plays into Russian hands fyi.
>>520342857Yeah I was wrong. So?
>>520342902Still having trouble reading i guess, eh?>>520342502>>520342542
>>520342064Zutt zutt
>>520342920So why drag it out? You tried multiple failed attempts instead of just accepting it you see why someone would get pissed off at you?
>>520342975Kek, these faggots are desperate to preserve the globohomo structures protecting them.I think somewhere they realise that they'll fare worse than the jews when our patience has well and truly run out.
>>520333060Hurry up and die you are a waste of western taxpayer dollars. You are a leech.
>>520342994No I don't see it unless you're a massive faggot pussy that gets angry in discussions. Are you a massive faggot pussy?
>>520342965Don't join NATO if you don't want to pay faggot retard. You join the group you pay 2% minimum you faggot youve been a member since the 1950s you fucking dumb nigger. You don't get suddenly act like you touched it out
>>520343091I just can't stand retards who act smug then get absolutely wrecked and try to scrape together an argument to salvage themselves making them look even more stupid because you didn't spend 5 seconds fact checking. You'll forget about it tomorrow either way.
>>520343091He says as he malds out... Pottery
>>520343141We literally founded it alongside you you idiot, we have never stopped paying our own defense.NATO is not that though, it has long since turned into your hobby influence project so by all means kick us out or leave but stop moaning about needing to fund your own hobbies.
>>520343256You are going to hate the Internet
>>520343282GREAT YOU MAKE YOURSELF SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF A CHEAP DUMB NIGGER MAN GOOD JOB BUD.
>>5203330601) Russia would have preferred a 3-day operation where Ukraine agreed to neutrality. But Russia didn't actually expect it to be a 3-day operation. Which is why Russia spent a decade preparing for this war.2) While a long war doesn't benefit Russia in absolute terms. It doesn't benefit "The West" either. In fact, a Russian victory will all be guarantee the end of the current world order and the death of the west.
>>520343256Those are the wonders of 4chan, nobody remembers tomorrow. See you tomorrow btw going to the gym.
>>520333060just to make you seethe and was well worth it, kike
>>520343368Dilation time.
>>520343333>"Waaaah you need to pay your part in my hobby project!">No you're the cheap dumb nigger!Mcan interest you in the promise of a pledge that we'll totally loan you money to maybe spend on your shit?
>>520343399>Sign agreement for minimum >Don't pay it for 70 yearsMan reaching kike levels. Still haven't even done a full year yet as it was approved end of last year.
>>520342914Who said I don’t notice those? Our politicians have been fucking us for decades
>>520337781>is possible that I'm a gay nigger tweaker as a neighbor?>no reality is just russophobic
>>520343454>Nooo the agreement is still valid after we completely subverted itWe've literally got papers saying you owe us the reconquest of Indonesia if you wanna bitch like that.Faggot.
>>520343552LMAO.
>>520343490Because you're pretending that Sweden and Finland (who were de facto already fully on our side) would somehow offset that despite those issues rotting the core of Russia's enemies, as they mock with their "bleeding out'" comment.
>>520333060>What is the tactical benefit of turning a 3 day operation into a 1346 day war?
>>520343620Exactly, keep paying for your own hobby biatch.Or leave, that's even better
>>520333169>spreading nato thinRussia is trying to reconquer a smaller, weaker bordering state with no air force. Please explain how Russia sacrificing all of their armor and manpower to secure a land bridge to crimea is 4d chess. They can't even use their naval base in Crimea because zoomers keep drinking it lmao.
>>520343708*Droning
>>520338772>>520333345trust me, i read it on telegram
>>520343752>>520343708Was wondering about that one, figured it could be new slang.
>>520335555He's right. You're being forced into the army by your govt. Rustards also get to be droned in ukraine on top of that.
>>520343708>look up faggot data analyst>Literally a columnist from defense organization of UkraineLmao
>>520343641Being outside NATO is not the same as being inside NATO. The point is (which you’ve missed) is that Putin is trying to weaken NATO when all he has done is embolden it
>>520343891Hahaha nice argument shitskin >only stats from Russia are validNo one is buying your shit you fucking retard, sit down
>>520333596Total aid to Ukraine is at least $400 billion. Ukraine's Jewish oligarchs are fighting for money, not for nationalism or any other such nonsense. A significant amount of military aid is/was covert, or it was discounted to meet budget requirements. Most likely in exchange for Ukraine's natural resources.Regardless, the biggest expense for a military isn't weapons procurement. It is salaries and other logistics. Tanks have to be transported, fueled, and maintained. We're paying for everything(plus corruption/bribes).
>>520343340>hits pipe>bro, a Russian victory will all be guarantee the end of the current world order and the death of the west.
>>520343906>Embolden it...By getting us to ruin our own economies, supersize our inflation , stoke oir unrest and worsening our other mounting issues? ( >>520342902 )That's why i point out such distractions just aid Russia, you just make Russians seem more credible by being in denial even if just passively so.It kinda also highlights your propaganda role too, but that's less of an issue with your narrative than an issue with you.
>>520344043Are you saying it won't? You think NATO is winning this war? You think Europe is stronger than ever? Have you not noticed how erratic America's behavior is lately? You think time is on our side?
>>520344009lmao they are both Russian. Guess you just trust that Russian more? Yeah I don't trust that retard or you. Mr took on old war loans for Ukraine and will be responsible for them when Ukraine collapses award fellow.
>>520342354>>520342406>youtube video created by kremlinSo are you going to link to that official NATO promise or not?
>>520344254https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy_regarding_NATO's_eastward_expansionLiterally the first citation.Not saying it matters or anything, just pointing out it's not a very controversial claim.
>>520344150Explain how Ukraine losing (which they won't because Russians get turned into minced meat every time they set foot west of the Dnipro) will harm NATO in any way. Prior to 2014 Russia was in full control of Ukraine. It now has a fraction of it, fewer fighting age males, fewer aircraft, fewer tanks. This war was a massive success for NATO and the longer it goes on, the closer Russia gets to closing itself off from the rest of the world.
>>520342804>Indeed, why are they still here then?Because the world's security architecture was designed to work hemispherically with certain types of mutually accepted parity between the great powers. Our system wasn't designed to outproduce the Russian's artillery forces. Or their ammunition plants. Or their mobilization abilities. It was designed to ensure MAD was an effective deterrent against any aggression. And this principle was based on the complementary foundations of professional diplomacy and strategic intelligence. These are the capstone factors which guarantee world peace. Our interest in Europe does not extend past Germany. Its completely unnecessary. Likewise, while they operate intelligence networks globally, their ground forces gain nothing by being able to occupy land beyond Poland. The natural balance point is the r1b/r1a split from the tip of the adriatic to the baltic and right to the pole. Neither side gains any advantage projecting power beyond this line. If NATO had stopped there, the entire world would be better off for it today. So, expanding to the east was a catastrophic error in strategic judgement, and led to the door of ww3 being opened in Ukraine on their terms. As I said above, our system was never designed to fight a land war in Ukraine. It was designed to hold them off (or the Chinese) until nuclear weapons could be used and then hopefully counterattack with overwhelming force. Everything we see in Ukraine is a result of a systemic mismatch being sold to politicians as an easy ideological/racial victory. The Russian anons you see on here are correct in their assessment that NATO has been defeated in Ukraine. However, they are incorrect to extrapolate that assessment to NATO's structures as a whole as our actual mission purpose is still lethal and viable.>Tl;dr, if you design an entire system to function for a specific purpose, and then try to reverse that purpose without redesigning the system, you are going to fail.
>>520344528See this part maybe: >>520344127Pretending we're not affected by this just strengthens Russian credibility.So think of a better line of thought if you're genuinely pro-Ukraine.
>>520344254>>youtube video created by kremlinYou are fucking hallucinating if you think I work for the Kremlin. Stop wasting people's time with inane midwittery and lurk for a few years before you bother the adults in the room.
>>520344610You look like a chatbot that went haywire and completely forgot or misunderstood the context of that post.It's literally a non sequitur answer.
>>520344383It literally says there never was any such agreement, and that any claims otherwise are simply russian lies.>>520344729Russian on VPN got mad when nobody believes his blatant lies.
>>520344659The argument is that NATO is spending a lot of money to kill Russians and destroy their equipment? Ok, if we overextend we just pull support and Russia gets their puppet state back. We can recoup the losses because we're still able to participate in the world economy. Russia can't. This should be obvious but you retards were tricked by low effort BRICS propaganda.
>>520344810Might wanna read the "Strength and status of assurances" a bit better, it's pretty obvious that there have been (verbal) promises that could be interpreted as such.
>>520333611They didn't lose Tartus though. Instead they're constantly in contact with the Syrian government about reestablishing military cooperation with Syria. All the while Westcucks are running to pick up the bill for rebuilding Syria and letting even more Syrian freeloaders into the country. The amount of cope from Westcucks is insane. If the aim was to get Russia out of Syria it has failed 100%.
>>520345071I like how you pretend that these damages we have suffered are so easily reversible.Ukraine is no real loss to us no, but the economic damages, the grown unrest, the damage to institutions and credibility, these are not negligeble losses in the slightest, to the contrary they have frayed the fabric of NATO to such a point that Sweden and Finland can easily be portrayed as a flight forward.Austria-Hungary is not ancient history, we know how these things go. They do too.
>>520343708>Please explain how Russia sacrificing all of their armor and manpower to secure a land bridge to crimea is 4d chess.Russia is taking back Novorossiya and demilitarizing Ukraine/NATO. Leaving a Ukrainian rump state that will be a net economic drain on a Europe that is already teetering on the edge of bankruptcy.>>520344528>Explain how Ukraine losing (which they won't because Russians get turned into minced meat every time they set foot west of the Dnipro) will harm NATO in any way.You are confused about what NATO is. You seem to think NATO is some kind of unified bloc fighting against Russia. No, NATO is essentially America and its dependencies/vassals. To the extent Europeans are pro-America and anti-Russia, is the extent to which America can buy them off. Basically, the extent to which sucking American dick is more profitable than sucking Russian dick.>Prior to 2014 Russia was in full control of Ukraine.No Russia didn't, retard. But they certainly had more influence than they do now. Yanukovych was not a Russian puppet. He literally ran on EU integration. The only reason he didn't pursue it further was because the Ukrainian economy was taking a shit and Putin offered a bailout while the EU demanded austerity.Regardless, the fundamental problem facing America/NATO/The West is that America is losing to China. The balance of power is shifting against us. European industry cannot compete when paying 4x more for gas/electricity. And Russia has proved NATO is a paper tiger whose guarantees mean nothing.There is no doubt that Russia was damaged by this war. And there is no doubt that Russia hoped for a 3-day war. But what NAFO trannies will never understand is that this war isn't really about Russia. It's much much bigger than that.
>>520344127>By getting us to ruin our own economies, supersize our inflation , stoke oir unrest and worsening our other mounting issues?>>520333596>>520333724
>>520345320>they have frayed the fabric of NATO to such a point that Sweden and Finland can easily be portrayed as a flight forward.What is that supposed to mean?
>>520344127Mate I don’t know what you’re getting at. You’re pretending our internal problems are recent and caused by Russia? Put down the krokodil pipe
>>520344745The kikes are still in the netherlands because the locals are too stupid to understand basic political structures.>>520344810The nato expansion promise is incredibly easy to verify. No one is making this up. Do 5 minutes of googling and you can the original documents.
>>520344528>the closer Russia gets to closing itself off from the rest of the world.This is utterly delusional. Every day that goes by Russia has more friends not less. Every day that goes by BRICS grows. Every day that goes by countries become more willing to resist American demands and ignore American sanctions.Time is not on our side. I have no idea why you retards wanted to pick a fight with Russia when the real enemy is China.
>>520344210Ukraine will collapse when? 2 more weeks?
>>520345367How again is that relevant?Germany's economy is in shambles over this war, hell all of Europe's is, fuel issues causing inflation to soar while these problems brought long growing issues with immigration and islam to the fore.No the direct costs of the Ukraine war are indeed minor, but the damage is enormous.
>>520333060>Day 4225 of the 48hr Anti Terrorist Operation in the Donbass
>>520345534It's inevitable, retard. And you know it.
>>520334634Storm shadows and ATACMSs all been shot down and couldn't surpass our defense
>>520345525You already posted this pic and argument chinkbot.>>520345324>Yanukovych was not a Russian puppetkek. He literally fled to Russia after the coup you subhuman slavshitter.
>>520345486Yeah thanks for confirming that propaganda suspicion.>>520345397I'd elaborate but i think it's obvious enough for those not stuck in bubbles, and i feel like getting myself some chocolate before dark.>>520345492Most of the locals are "kikes" you idiot, as the muslims have started to discover to their horror.
>>520345492>The nato expansion promise is incredibly easy to verify as a russian lieYes.
>>520345603How old are you? Be honest. Germanys economy has been fucked by greens and the other assorted faggots over the past decades, same as here. Net zero and general mismanagement has done more damage than Russia ever has. Our politicians are busy spending billions upon billions on HS2, digital ID, DEI policies and destroying affordable fossil fuel
>>520345603Germany is paying the price of siding with russian mongloids and pretending nothing is wrong about that and it's never going to come back and bite them in the ass. I'm somehow not sympathetic. The Europe is doing relatively fine and beginning to recognize the mistakes (mass migration etc.) and correcting. It will take time, but we are on the right track.The relevance is that if we had aggressive mongloids at our borders, we would have to militarize even more and spend way more money to keep all of it up. Ukraine bought us a lot of time and is a natural barrier preventing mongloids from stupid moves against NATO.>inb4 Koeningsberg - you can't mount a reasonable offensive from there.>inb4 Belarus - I doubt they are stupid enough to go hot. All they can do is this border shit.
>>520333060We have had population surplus by the result of this war, there's more refugees from Ukraine than we have casualties.Besides we have new land, bridge to Crimea, and Ukraine is crippled forever.
>>520345694You faggots have been saying this for 3 years. Shut the fuck up you have no credibility. The only nation that has consistently collapsed throughout history is Russia
>>520345784>everything I disagree with is propaganda Bravo
>>520345783>You already posted this pic and argumentGood, people need to see it. The point is that this is an economic war, and we're losing.>He literally fled to Russia after the coup you subhuman slavshitter.So did Assad. For that matter, the Shah ran away to America during the Iranian Revolution. Just because a country gives you refuge from people trying to kill you doesn't mean you were merely a puppet. Yes, Russia preferred Yanukovych, just like we preferred the Shah, or the Saudi monarchy for that matter. But it's nonsense to say the Saudi monarchs are US puppets even if they cooperate with us in many ways. It's only because it is a mutually-beneficial relationship. The Saudis absolutely despise us, so did the Shah. And if you watch interviews with the Shah towards the end, you would understand why. Yet, we still preferred him to the crazies that took over.
>>520346095>population surplus Yeah but they’re not Russian lmao
>>520345991Washington D.C., December 12, 2017 – U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University (http://nsarchive.gwu.edu).>Just grow up. Soldiers have to deal with reality.
>>520345534Despite what do u mean under collapse.Ukraine is already unable to pay its government spendings by itself.Like completely. It doesn't even take their bodies back because they can't pay for them.It's worse country in the world in demographic sense. All youth and women has left, only old people and middle aged losers who was turned to trench meat remained.By many factors it has already collapsed. It exists only because of totalitarian measures of butcher Zelensky and trillions dollars of western support
>>520346297Those Ukrainian refugees who came to us consider themselves russian (but I don't kek)
>>520346019The EU aristocracy ran a coup on the US to empower their new continental empire. This has been ongoing since the 90's at a bare minimum. Clinton was a british agent. The only army they had was nato designed so they fell for the tech porn lies and threw it at Russia thinking that bar graphs were reality. Now they are fucked, everyone knows what they did, and they are going to die on this hill because no political sanctuary will be made available on this side of the Atlantic.
>>520346316As usual, the russian liar completely takes something real out of context and wraps it up in bullshit. There is no NATO promise to not expand eastwards. No matter how many times you russians lie about it, that won't change.
>>520346106>You faggots have been saying this for 3 years. Shut the fuck up you have no credibility. The only nation that has consistently collapsed throughout history is RussiaLiterally every single thing you said is retarded.Get this into your fucking brain. Ukraine will collapse. It is inevitable. Everyone wants to flee that shithole. And why wouldn't they? Who the fuck would want to be a Ukrainian.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/10/29/100000-young-men-flee-ukraine-two-months
Fuck Ukraine and that faggot kike actor leader playing a dictator.
>>520346484I’m referring to all the churkas and other Muslims you’ve imported to replace your own people. Does that not bother you?
>>520346425I’ve heard the exact same thing about your military you don’t collect bodies so their families don’t need to be paid. Yes Ukraine is bankrupt but so is Russia, you’re going cap in hand to the chinks ffs
>>520346522It was an American promise. And NATO is America. You are an American slave. How have you managed to find /pol but don't understand how you rank in he global power structure?>Watch the drone videos from Ukraine. Those are American slaves. Their lives were bought and sold by American dollars. Grow the fuck up. NATO serves to exploit you, not protect you. If you don't like that fact, move to the 5 Eyes and breed with a scottish/irish/english girl. Until you are blood, you are a slave.
>>520346559The West bank rolls Ukraine and Russias economy is tanking. Look at their bankruptcy rates and interest rates. Putin is now trying to buy yuan lol it’s the Cold War all over again, who can outspend the other long enough
