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damn the tables turned hard on internet atheism
lmfao
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>>520413500
No substance, no contributions, just yapping and leeching. Yap, leech, yap, leech, yap, leech. Welcome to the real world. Welcome to life.
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>>520413890
>npnw is stupid
No substance, no contributions, just shaming and leeching. shame, leech, shame, leech, shame, leech.
>MGTOW are losers
No substance, no contributions, just shaming and leeching. shame, leech, shame, leech, shame, leech.
>just losers in thir mamas basements
No substance, no contributions, just shaming and leeching. shame, leech, shame, leech, shame, leech.
>have sex incel
No substance, no contributions, just shaming and leeching. shame, leech, shame, leech, shame, leech.
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>>520413500
You're out of the loop, on /pol/ gaytheism is BASED AND REDPILLED now, antisemitic homophobic etc.
Now we can hate Christians like liberal redditors and kikes but for BASED reasons.
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>>520413500
They should repent and find Jesus.
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>>520413500
The only thing "atheism" promotes is homosex, aids, butt rape, faggots, homogays, lesbos, freak serial killer trannies and other trash
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99.99% of people are just ignorant, no matter what they believe.
The truth is that reptilians are ruling the flat-earth since the time of Atlantis. If you don't get that you know nothing about the world.
And no, I won't debate this with you NASA-fuckers.
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>>520413500
Interesting. I still lack belief in God or gods
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>>520416432
Amen sister
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>>520413500
What is "internet atheism"?
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>>520417155
It's cringe.
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>>520417155
Reddit
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>>520413500
Atheism is only popular when you are young and believe in fairytales. To believe humanity will achieve some diverse racial utopia while looking our differences in the eye takes either retardation or insanity. The people that push this idea can't even get along with their own family. You see them constantly saying they cut somebody off for a disagreement or perceived beliefs, "my dad's racist so fuck him". The "terrible father" that provided for them and tries to teach them to survive is ignored and they move into sone ghetto ass area and get stabbed, shot, raped, or robbed. They can accept this injustice, but not their own father that told them it would happen. Their mothers are mad at the world for being treated as they are, unlikable cunts. So they teach their children to be pets through "witchcraft". Witchcraft to me is a female that lives a lie and uses the idea of being a "nurturer", as movies tell us, to pretend her goal is only "love and acceptance". She pretends she is a good person then plots your demise in the shadows. She screams rape, abuse, and abandonment to all who will listen entrancing and enchanting them with tears in her eyes. She stops eating or taking care of herself to look as though she is suffering to activate a primal desire to protect her in men. When she has consumed the soul of her target you will see her start beaming with happiness. Anybody that realizes she is actually a bad person will get the worst of it. Absolutely vicious hatred that can lead to your death. I experienced this with my own mother. My girlfriends as well. When you tell people about it they just look through you trying to find a lie or brand you as dishonest based on their own status as a thrall to women. They exist to provide energy and protection to these foul creatures like a battery. What you have is atheist hierarchy. Gynocentric society where the reward is being perceived positively by females opening the opportunity to reproduction.
Tldr blame women
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>there's no god or inherent meaning to life so just be a smug bitter miserable suicidal wastrel like me
it's shocking that it failed
they had such a great sales pitch
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>>520417155
It's this:
>"In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god's blessing. But because, I am englightened by my intelligence."
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>>520415098
>damn the tables turned hard
>lmfao
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>>520418272
>intelligence
Yes intelligence is simply agreeing with people labelled intelligent by the people who control the narrative. Not one of them can even prove gravity exists. It doesn't. Gravity is just magnetism. Earth is magnetic, your body holds a charge. Lint sticking to plastic is gravity? It's funny to watch people just go around saying "I'm smart", but this is their reason why^
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>>520417546
>>520417650
>>520418272
Post link to the official definition.
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>>520418564
Here you go:

https://gay(.)com/
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>>520418564
no one holds an office for defining terms
it's an observed cultural phenomenon
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>>520419079
>using this photo
>knowing this fatty died of 'heart complications' 6 years ago
pretty sure your definition is purposefully obtuse (whenever you wish to join the discussion)
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>>520419377
well, to be honest, i loathe all forms of atheisms.
but if we were to go about defining the term "internet atheism," i'd say it's the online form of the nu-atheism that spawned from the "four horsemen," hitchens, dennet, dawkins and harris.
it's not a formal philosophy but an online culture characterized by its confrontational style, with a strong emphasis on scientism and vocal criticism of Christianity in particular for being not merely false but a force for harm in the world.

their tactic online is to adopt sagan's worthless atheist taxonomy and couch their criticisms of Christianity behind a shield of agnosticism. it's a rhetorical move that masks their certainty that Christianity is a mere fairy tale behind a false veneer of open-mindedness and epistemic humility.
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>>520413500
Atheism was trending in the 2000s when the internet was majority white.

Now, you have superstitious pajeets muzzies and nigs everywhere, of course atheism is going to decline
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>>520413500
Nah, what happened was most of the unwashed masses gained internet access, so they drowned out the visionary high IQ computer nerds who originally populated the internet.
Think what India is doing to America now, but for ideologies.
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my ancestors are smiling upon me religioustard, can you say the same?
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>>520418060
>inherent meaning to life
There a lot of that for me, regardless of me being an atheist.

Thanks for allowing me to live rent free in your head and devices
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>>520419817
This is the kind of person who would rather have leftist trannies than a conservative atheist
>vocal criticism of Christianity in particular for being not merely false but a force for harm in the world.
It's people like you who do the most harm to Christianity
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>>520420161
>life came into being without intent
>life has an inherent meaning
pick one
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>>520420266
>conservative atheist
kek
the fuck are you conserving?
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>>520420061
lol
>>520420266
>cultural christian
lmao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud5J7Ye332I
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>>520420416
>the fuck are you conserving?
The borders of my state against invading brown people.
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>>520420416
My family :^)
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>>520420319
>life came into being without intent
Define "intent" and why is a "god" needed for that?
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>>520420419
>>cultural christian
I mean I still go to church with my family on Christmas. Does that count?
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>>520413500
Fedoras and neckbeards were like 10-15 years ago. Most of those internet atheists have since trooned out.
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>>520420627
intent implies purpose, something aimed at or designed.
if life came into being without intent, then it wasn't aimed at anything. it just happened.
intent doesn't require a god, but it does require some kind of agent or force that wanted life to exist, which can't fit into atheism.
therefore, under atheism, your life is inherently meaningless and worthless.
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>>520416362
I would honestly rather take 'no purpose' over 'my only worth comes from a jew'
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>>520420951
>intent implies purpose
Again, why is not only a "god" required for this but your favorite one?
>intent doesn't require a god, but it does require some kind of agent or force
Oh OK, so you're in the same boat as me really. You don't really know.
>under atheism, your life is inherently meaningless and worthless.
Correct, as atheism is just an opinion about God or gods. That's why I find it irrelevant to be being an atheist.
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>>520421132
>Again, why is not only a "god" required for this but your favorite one?
intent doesn't require a god, but it does require some kind of agent or force that wanted life to exist, which can't fit into atheism.
>Oh OK, so you're in the same boat as me really.
i'm not an atheist.
>under atheism, your life is inherently meaningless and worthless.
>Correct
yeah
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>>520413500
Yes. A certain tribe was not happy with people wanting to leave the goycattle enclosure and no longer worshipping a chosen (((savior))). So they stepped up the effort to discredit atheism.
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>>520421363
>that wanted life to exist
That's emotional babble and irrelevant

>i'm not an atheist.
Not only are you atheist to th4 gods you don't believe in but you also don't know what started it all
>>under atheism, your life is inherently meaningless and worthless.
>Correct
>yeah
You have a fundamental misunderstanding. I have inherent meaning with or without me being am atheist or theist.

Jist like how everyone is born an atheist and finds their own way as they grow up
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>>520421114
maybe you should take literacy instead because He's not a jew He says it a million times that He's not part of that group. He also says theyre a lost tribe a bunch of times too

Maybe you and all the others should learn how to read

also He grew up in the Northern most part Nazarene tribe not Judean tribe


Galatians 3:28, Ephesians 2:12
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>>520421593
>that wanted life to exist
>That's emotional babble and irrelevant
how?
want is about volition, will, not sadness or happiness.
it's immediately relevant because we were talking about intent.
>Not only are you atheist
i'm not an atheist, i believe in God.
>I have inherent meaning with or without me being am atheist or theist.
logically impossible for the reasons i'd already laid out.
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>>520421597
>because He's not a jew
Sure is
>21 And when eight days were completed [a]for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb

He says it a million times that He's not part of that group.
Incorrect. His beef is with different jews called the Pharisees


>>520421874
>>that wanted life to exist
>>That's emotional babble and irrelevant
>how?
You want a being who wanted life to exist.

>i'm not an atheist
You are to all the other gods you don't believe in for the same reason I don't believe in yours

>logically impossible
Nope. Living life is inherently meaningful and having kids that will live on is also that. To name a few
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>>520422154
>You want a being who wanted life to exist
what i want or don't want is irrelevant.
i'm pointing out that intent requires agency.
if life came into being without intent, then it wasn't aimed at anything.
that's definitional.

>Living life is inherently meaningful
that's a category error.
living life may "feel" meaningful (because atheism is false), but that's subjective.
"inherent meaning" means meaning built into existence itself, independent of your feelings or actions.
if life emerged without intent, then meaning is something we assign, not something inherent that we discover.
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>>520422416
>>You want a being who wanted life to exist
>what i want or don't want is irrelevant.
Then you're statement about a being who wanted life to exist is also irrelevant

>>520422416
>>Living life is inherently meaningful
>that's a category error.
Nope. The statement holds if I define "inherently" as "baked into the physics of being alive." The counter only works if we demand transcendent meaning

You demand a transcendent meaning. That's fine for you. But it's not needed

>inherent meaning" means meaning built into existence itself
Thanks for agreeing
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>>520422416
>if life emerged without intent
You want it to be the intent you want. When intent could simply be a chain of reactions. If A then B.
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Why do Christians type 1000 words per post
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>>520422781
Most of it is emotional babble
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>>520413500
imagine not being a brony
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>>520417943
>Atheism = belief in fairy tales.
Lol...
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>>520422857
God is omniscient. Jesus is pure. The holy Spirit is real. Satan has no power.

Done
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>>520422781
He who yells the loudest wins!
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Most people irl are habitually atheist even if they identify as some type of religion. No-one genuinely believes in that crap other than inbred muslim retards maybe.
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>>520422753
>>520422674
>intent could simply be a chain of reactions. If A then B.
that's causality, not intention.
intention requires agency.

>You want it to be the intent you want.
>Then your statement about a being who wanted life to exist is also irrelevant
no, it's not.
my desire is irrelevant.
the concept of intent is central.
you dismissed "want" as emotional babble, but intent by definition requires volition (want.)
if life wasn't intended, it wasn't aimed at anything.
that's logical, not emotional.

>I define "inherently" as "baked into the physics of being alive."
physics doesn't deal in meaning. it describes motion, mass, energy
not value, purpose or worth.
you’re importing value into a system that, by your own admission, has no intent. that's the category error.
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DAILY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever.
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>>520423229
>uhh i have inherent meaning because physics and reproduction
max stirner would shit in your mouth for the stuff you're posting
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>>520423385
>that's causality, not intention.
It's both

>>520423385
>>You want it to be the intent you want.
>>Then your statement about a being who wanted life to exist is also irrelevant
>no, it's not.
>my desire is irrelevant.
Then your statement is irrelevant about a being wanting life to exist. Considering God is ultimately unknowable by man, you also don't know it's intent. So you intent

>>520423385
>physics doesn't deal in meaning. it describes motion, mass, energy
Correct. I still find meaning in the physics of this inherent life

>by your own admission, has no intent.
I never said this or suggested.

Why do you always need to make up a strawman?
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>>520423652
Another strawman.

That's all you do
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>>520423684
>So you intent
You invent intent*
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>>520423229
ye
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>>520413500
Atheism is gay and most religions are also gay. Atheists are more faggy though, and theists usually are super complacent (maybe except Islam but they're retards). I just wish people were less like themselves and more race realist.
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>>520413500
DAILY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever
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>>520423184
>The holy Spirit is real
kek
I thought of an experiment to test on crossjews.
pic rel is a monstrance that holds the eucharist and it's used by catholics and other christcucks.
catholics and other christcucks must sense and affirm the presence of jesus in the eucharist or else they're heretics.
Now, the experiment would be take a catholic or other christcuck into a room with table, blind fold the christcuck, and take either the monstrance or a vase (for noise). finally, ask the christcuck if the presence of jewsus is emanating from the object on the table.
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forgot pic
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>>520423070
>To believe humanity will achieve some diverse racial utopia while looking our differences in the eye takes either retardation or insanity.
Do you have an argument? No. You are a waste of life and should disinfect the world from yourself.
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>>520424036
>other christcucks
Name 1 group besides Catholics.
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>>520424112
>Do you have an argument? No
Neither do you since what you've said has nothing to do with atheism
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>>520424159
lutherans, orthodox, and some other protestant sects
the majority of christcucks believe in the real presence of jewsus in the eucharist, retard.
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>>520423684
>it's both
causality is blind.
intention requires foresight and volition.
you can't collapse agency into mechanics just because it's convenient for your garbage worldview.

>then your state is irrelevant about a being wanting life to exist.
i'm not appealing to what i want, i'm pointing out that intentionally logically requires an agent.

>god is ultimately unknowable by man
then your entire worldview collapses into agnosticism. but if you're claiming life has inherent meaning then you're smuggling in metaphysical assumptions you can't justify.

>i still find meaning in the physics of this inherent life
you assign meaning, that's fine.
but you can't pretend it's inherent.
physics doesn't care.
molecules don't moralize.
you're projecting value onto a system that by your own account has no will

>s-s-s-s-s-strawman!!
you've repeatedly rejected the idea of a willful creator.
that is a denial of intent.
if you're now walking that back, say so.
otherwise, don't accuse me of strawmen when i'm just following your childish malformed logic to its conclusion.
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>>520424036
That's fake that's a fake experiment because there's no stakes
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>>520424112
Atheists don't believe that "humanity will achieve some diverse racial utopia". That's retarded.
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>>520423770
I think that faith is a necessary component of a functional human perspective. faith is obviously a very widely applicable term, but I'm merely using it with the definition of choosing to believe something is the way it is without having any rational proof or coherent structure
necessary to functional human perspective simply due to the fact that we cannot know everything, or rather we can hardly know anything at all, meaning that faith plays a fundamental role in our moment to moment decision making
would you say that you have any faith or "religious structure" (religious being used loosely, as a metaphor) that you use as a core for your more existential conclusions about the nature of reality/purpose of existence
or would you say that you're "theology" is generally more open-ended, making no finite claims about the nature of anything, and that you merely do your best to understand the framework and what could potentially exist to facilitate such a framework
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>>520424204
I'm not joking. Disinfect. I'm not arguing with you. You are under the impression I have any bit of respect for your retarded ass.
>everybody says religion is like a fairytale so you can't use that to describe ME!
You're not even smart enough to acknowledge honestly. I'm just going to ignore you like everybody else in your life worthy of respect does.
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1pbtid
divide and conquer bot
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DAILY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever!
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>>520413500
This does not put clothes on the Emperor, you know.
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>>520424444
>if it's not scientifically verifiable then it's meaningless
this notion was shit on 100 years ago by quine popper and wittgenstein.
internet atheists and the reddit training data that LLM ate have a lot of catching up to do.
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>>520424301
Lutherans don't. Orthodox christians don't. I'm lutheran. Never even heard of this until studying catholicism. Some chruches ran by jews may do it, but that's to undermine christianity to reflect jewish views on the history of Christ. You're a retard. That is the answer to your problem.
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>>520415098
>babys first interactive internet surrogate activities
Yes, glad you noticed
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>>520413500
well yeah the Internet is not white anymore. The Atheist were the majority when the Internet was majority White 10-20 years ago, now the Internet is full of Brown Christians, Muslims, Hindus
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>>520424339
>causality is blind
I don't agree

>intention requires foresight and volition.
Depends on context
>i'm pointing out that intentionally logically requires an agent.
Sire. Doesn't mean it's the agent you want it to be

>then your entire worldview collapses into agnosticism
Agnostic atheism. I don't rule out the possibility of god or gods. I just lack the belief until.evudence can convince me

>>520424339
>but you can't pretend it's inherent
Again, see
>>520422674
>The statement holds if I define "inherently" as "baked into the physics of being alive." The counter only works if we demand transcendent meaning

And you also said
>>520422416
>"inherent meaning" means meaning built into existence itself, independent of your feelings or actions.
Which means independent your feelings about God

>>520424339
>you've repeatedly rejected the idea of a willful creator.
I reject it as the only plausible option. Intentt doesn't need a creator

>>520424476
>I'm not joking.
You're a retard on purpose. I know
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>>520413500
Because woke niggers are now infecting religion.
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>>520413500
I'm sorry you had your dick cut off for no reason
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>>520416362
those are christian countries you listed, Poland the worst example is 90% catholic
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>>520418060
average christian is a nigger starving in eithopia or brazil
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>>520423901
>nothingness forever

I get what you're saying, but this is just wrong. Off is not just another TV channel. There is no 'forever'. When we take our last breath, we are annihilated. Some people think pretending this is not true is the only way to remain sane, but there is real comfort in accepting the fact that 20 minutes after our last breath, everything we ever did, every relationship we ever had, the last memories of parents and grandparents long dead... these things turn to oatmeal.
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>>520424726
Justin? Go take care of your son you pathetic faggot.
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>>520424726
why do you post like this.
if you want to continue this discussion reply again with one thoughtful coherent response instead of these terse little nothings.
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>>520416362
>Majority Christian
It seems Christianism failed.
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>>520424692
So... You do believe in the invisible sky monkey.
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>>520424869
What retard babble is this?
>>520424897
>jump through my arbitrary hoops.
Bro, if you can't refute either say so or don't reply. These copes make you look pathetic 9
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>>520424695
>Never even heard of this until studying catholicism
of what? the eucharist?
lutherans don't believe that the eucharist is symbolic like other protestants.
orthodox believe in transubstantiation.
you're mentally retarded
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>>520424444
>chatgpt screenshot
rope
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>>520425007
alright fine, i'll respond emulating your posting style.

>>520424726
>I don't agree
so causality requires intent?
then atheism is false.
>>520424726
>intention requires foresight and volition.
>Depends on context
name a context where intention doesn't require foresight or volition
>>520424726
>Sire
i'm not your king, Christ is.
>>520424726
>Agnostic atheism
this isn't a real thing.
>>520424726
>"inherent meaning" means meaning built into existence itself, independent of your feelings or actions.
>Which means independent your feelings about God
i haven't brought up my feelings about God once this discussion
>>520424726
>Intentt doesn't need a creator
it does though, definitionally and logically.
>>520424726
>You're a retard
no, you are.
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>>520424726
come on give me your take >>520424447
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>>520425158
>of what?
>what could he possibly mean
>im smart ill figure it out...
>oh it must be the only thing he was talking about!
>ill call him a retard since i deciphered his complex dialog
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>>520424346
>fake experiment
no, it's to determine if the presence of jewsus is consistent among christcucks.
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>>520425519
so what is it?
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>>520413500
Wasn't /pol/ a majority atheist board before 2016?
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>>520413500
White racism is now getting the same fate
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>>520425302
>so causality requires intent?
Sure
>then atheism is false
Yoi don't know what atheism is
>name a context where intention doesn't require foresight or volition
When a fire turns anything to ash

>>Agnostic atheism
>this isn't a real thing.
Not to you

>i haven't brought up my feelings about God once this discussion
Thats not true. Your personal feelings believes in a monthothestoc God and your personal feelings wants it to have the intent to create life.

>>520425302
>>Intentt doesn't need a creator
>it does though, definitionally and logically.
Nope. Intent is a property of systems, not a substance that must be manufactured. It emerges wherever information-processing meets goal-directed behavior, whether the system is biological, artificial, or hypothetical.
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>>520425659
no, it's always been like a 40% theist / 40% atheist / 20% memer split
atheists were mocked brutally here and hotwheel's chan for their hats and weight in the early 2010's and were extremely upset
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>>520425507
Define "faith" because I believe the phrase you're looking for is reasonable expectations
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>>520425904
>>>Agnostic atheism
>>this isn't a real thing.
>Not to you
Meant to you
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>>520425904
>so causality requires intent?
>Sure
i'm done here, you are now a believer in a god.

i'd appreciate another atheist to chime in here and explain why he's a retard.
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>>520426095
>i'm done here, you are now a believer in a god.
See
>>520425904
>Intent is a property of systems, not a substance that must be manufactured. It emerges wherever information-processing meets goal-directed behavior, whether the system is biological, artificial, or hypothetical.
Have a nice day kiddo :^)
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>>520425601
Nothing to anybody outside of catholics. You are referencing new age beliefs pushed by pedophile grooming cults such as Calvary Chapel and Harvest. I don't care to convince you of anything, nor "enlighten" you. I am not a prophet nor messenger. I am the sword of god severing you from reality by simply not telling you what it is. I want you to believe you're correct. Go and spread the word. The righteous won't be misled. You guys are seriously doing us a favor with these arguments. Who would believe you? The weak willed and unintelligent. Whose side do they join when they "find out you're right"? Yours. Who are we left with? The strongest believers and most capable thinkers. You are just a bacteria turning the rotting piles of flesh in my stomach into shit so that I can easily push them out. You believe you are smart. I am smart regardless of belief or opinion. It's just a fact of life. You have probably been considered retarded or average your entire life, but latch onto what's considered social majority intelligent. Consensus. You think, "more 'smart' people believe god isn't real". So you follow that ideaology. It doesn't matter. You are cleaning things up for us and have no idea lol. Jannies do it for free.
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>>520416362
No purpose ≠ Atheism
You should put more effort to your propaganda
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>>520426292
>No purpose ≠ Atheism
the lack of an inherent purpose logically follows from the belief of atheism though.
you can make up your own purpose, but it will just be made up rather than something real that was discovered.
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I want to see every Christian in america wearing a cross.

I need to known you are on my team.

You don’t have to wear the ones with Jesus nailed to it.
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>>520426335
>but it will just be made up rather than something real that was discovered.
That's not true either
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>>520426260
>You are referencing new age beliefs pushed by pedophile grooming cults such as Calvary Chapel and Harvest.
The "real presence of jewsus in the eucharist" is a new age belief? wtaf lmao
>I am smart
Ok tell me what luther said regarding the eucharist
you're malding over a simple experiment
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>>520426365
i was thinking about that the other day.

on one hand, i want atheists to feel more uncomfortable in our country.
>"God bless you" if someone sneezes
>praying and blessing your food even at mcdonalds
but it needs to be balanced against the teachings against performative piety in scripture.
>>520426633
kek, i was quoting an actual atheist philosopher almost word for word.
ask your LLM to explain its reasoning, i'm very curious and want to see.
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>>520426746
hey i don't mind at all.
if more atheists start using LLMs to clarify their reasoning their shitty worldview will collapse all the faster.
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>>520426723
>kek, i was quoting an actual atheist philosopher almost word for word.
Well him and you are both morons.

Lol, you're such a clown shoe
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>>520426804
>I can't refute
Is all this anon is saying
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>>520426518
You obviously didn't comprehend anything I said and think everybody just says stuff and they have no real beliefs or philosophy. You are my servant. You will continue to digest my excrement. That is your purpose. Continue.
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>>520426841
>Well him and you are both morons.
>him and you
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>>520426902
>You will continue to digest my excrement
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>>520426841
>didn't post its explanation
kek
i bet it took back it's 4/10 rating and explained it's sound reasoning when you asked.
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>>520426723
Here's then actual quote.

Why do you willfully lie so much?
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>>520426995
Right. That's very clever. You sure showed me. Get back to work jannie. You have false believer retards to recruit to your super intelligent "army"
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>>520427052
Notice how you don't plug your statement into the LLM?
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>>520427061
he's talking about two different things in these two instances.
subjective (made up) morality and objective (real) morality.
he's saying the former can be real.

i'll grab the quote i'm using in a sec if you don't believe me.
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>>520427052
I can go point by point if you really want
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>>520427052
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>>520427245
>post jew filtered ai response
>claims he is putting forth an argument
>11010010111010
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>>520427061
it's from this
https://www.andrsib.com/dt/moral.htm
>>520427245
>2/10 now
gasp
>you can be an atheist an believe in xyz
yeah but you can't do so rationally.
i've trudged through harris' book and he utterly fails at grounding moral realism within an atheistic framework.
none of the niggers your LLM mentioned were able to successfully do so.
they just appeal to intuition, which if a theist used that sort of argumentation for the existence of God against an atheist they'd have a pants shitting metldown.
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>>520418908
Your link doesn't work.

>>520419079
>no one holds an office for defining terms.
Wrong - the dictionaries contain all words and definitions.
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>>520427160
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>>520427561
yeah.
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>>520427524
>>you can be an atheist an believe in xyz
>yeah but you can't do so rationally.
That's also false
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>>520427084
what was it? what did luther say about the eucharist?
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>>520418287
Yeah it's like how podcasters naming the jew lost all their listeners when anti-semitism became mainstream and even normies started heiling Hitler. There's no need for atheist "influencers" because not worshipping a jew is just what people do now. At least the White ones.
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>>520427531
>Your link doesn't work.
Just like atheism

>>520427561
>spamming LLM shit
what the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>520427524
>>you can be an atheist an believe in xyz
>yeah but you can't do so rationally.
The statement assumes that atheism entails the irrationality of XYZ—without defining XYZ or giving evidence.

Rational = consistent with evidence + logic?
Then yes, atheists can (and do) rationally defend morality, meaning, beauty, etc.

Rational = must be grounded in God?
Then you’ve smuggled in theism as the definition of rationality—making the claim tautological, not argumentative.

This is not philosophy. It’s rhetorical sleight of hand.
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>>520427721
He can't think for himself, can't argue for himself.

He's retarded and lazy like most atheists.
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>>520427353
Testimony is literally valid evidence in court retard

Those sources are testimonials with evidence in the real world, like the seal of Pilate.
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>>520427896
>Testimony is literally valid evidence in court retard
Can we cross examine those testimonies?
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>>520427875
Stupid niggers like this need to lurk more
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>>520427643
>Among us…the sacrament is available for all who wish to partake of it after they have been examined and absolved.
>who wish
>choice
>belief
I don't really know bro. You would have to tell me since you are so smart and I'm just sone stupid lutheran that doesn't knkw his beliefs better than a bot/ai addicted retard masquerading as intelligent.
>look! the ai said this! that means you're wrong
I'm done with you. That was my last wipe. Back to work servant.
><img src=gif.com/getfucked.gif>
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>>520427896
>Testimony is literally valid evidence in court
>>520427956
provided the finder of fact, such as a jury or judge, determines that the testimony proves the essential elements of the crime beyond a reasonable doubt.
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>>520416362
Your mom finds jesus every weekend at the local truck stop.
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>>520428013
Faggots like this need to stop sucking pp

Why are you gay?
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>>520428330
This anon speaks from personal experience
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>>520427721
Post documentation for lack of belief in the existence of deities doesn't work.
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HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever.
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>>520416432
The church has an extensive history of sexual abuse of children and patrons. You’re not in any position to dictate what constitutes morality based on whether one’s a believer or not. There are a lot of nonbelievers who do good works and have a solid moral foundation. You’d expect such a Godless group to be degenerate but that degeneracy is only amplified by calling yourself a good Christian.
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>>520428067
the option is if they want to consume the eucharist.
is it optional for a lutheran to believe if jewsus is present in the eucharist?
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>>520416229
>gaytheism is BASED AND REDPILLED now, antisemitic homophobic etc.
>Now we can hate Christians like liberal redditors and kikes but for BASED reasons.
That's so black metal
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>>520426032
yeah basically, except that somewhere down any chain of cognition is where reasonable expectation becomes, for all intents and purposes, immutable reality.
it can be as simple as you "knowing" that your next inhale will be successful and you will continue being alive.
Of course, you can totally dissect the rationality behind that and what evidence you have that supports such a claim.
My point is, though, that that would be a massive time waste and generally counter-productive. Essentially, taking certain perceptions for granted is an absolutely necessary part of being a productive human (or any living creature, really.)

That threshold in which we consciously or subconsciously take those perceptions for granted is what I would define as faith.

a more practical example, we have our modern understanding of physics ie. quantum, newtonian. This understanding informs us about the potential nature of life and its development. The exact application of our understanding is up for debate within those confines, of course, but what about the preconceptions of the confines of the confines themselves? There is always the possibility of some exotic process influencing the end result. At some point, though, many would say it is counterproductive to speculate on such a possibility and to have faith in our current understanding of physics, at least to the effect of the more abstracted topic.

so to restate, to what extent do you think your worldview/philosophy/ideology/theology is composed of faith and do you do your best to root out these taken-for-granted preconceptions where you find them, or, instead, is there a certain threshold where you consider deconstruction of such preconceptions to be counterproductive/a waste of time
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>>520428837
>so to restate, to what extent do you think your worldview/philosophy/ideology/theology is composed of faith
None
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>>520428663
Absolutely retard. Copy and paste some dumbass jewish llm response to tell me about what I actually know rather than what jewish robots to tell me. This is hilarious. Who the fuck convinced you that you're smart? Single mother? Little excrement organism.
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>>520427353
>>520427245
>>520426633
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HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever
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>>520428969
hmmm i mean really? isn't it kinda arrogant to think there's not a single preconception that you take for granted at any point of your entire perception of reality?
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>>520429058
ok
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>>520430198
That's not what you asked. And if something happens outside my reasonable expectations then I know there is a reason
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>>520428330
These always say "accept homosexuality" because christfags aren't any less likely to be gay. They just stay in the closet and molest little boys.
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>>520424615
>>520428501
>>520429935
>REMINDER ON THE INTERVAL DEFINED BY MY SCHIZOPHRENIC IMPULSES

>>520430743
>so to restate, to what extent do you think your worldview/philosophy/ideology/theology is composed of faith
>faith
>>520428837
>That threshold in which we consciously or subconsciously take those perceptions for granted is what I would define as faith.
>...not a single preconception that you take for granted at any point of your entire perception of reality?
>worldview/philosophy/ideology/theology
>entire perception of reality
what am i missing
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>>520431230
Cope and seethe kike
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>>520431319
my bad, coping and seething
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>>520430743
also
>I know there is a reason
assumes a deterministic reality, a preconception you have faith in
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>>520413500
They never really peaked
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>>520431230
>>That threshold in which we consciously or subconsciously take those perceptions for granted is what I would define as faith.
>>520431230
>what am i missing
I don't call this faith and I don't take them for granted as I almost died once
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>>520432099
>>I know there is a reason
>assumes a deterministic reality
No it doesn't. Several causes can be a reason or reasons
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>>520421597
Dude it's fine if you personally want to have a jewish master, I'm just not intyerested
but go into literally any church and deny Jesus' jewishness and you will be laughed out
You're coping hard because you can't reconcile wanting to be antisemitic with having a jewish god, I get that, but don't accuse others of being illiterate because you can't cope with your contradictions.
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>>520419817
Cracka I'm agnostic cause idk you can say a lot of the shit in Bible happened like how Noah's ark killed all the Jews yet theirs still jews
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>>520433218
sure, except that's how I decided to define faith for the context of our discussion
taking something for granted is something that you do no matter what, it's a state that can't be avoided. Your so-called "reasonable assumptions" is exactly that.
that the ground will not fall out from beneath you and the food you eat will, in fact, provide you with nutrition to continue living is simultaneously a reasonable assumption and preconception you take for granted.
obviously the ground will not fall out from under me in the next moment. I blindly accept that as true.

>>520433272
having a reason in of itself implies determinism. It means an outcome can be defined if the initial state is known. Humans don't know for sure whether or not reality is deterministic.
That means we don't know whether or not every cause has a definable effect. Basically, to say
>I know there is a reason
is an assumption that everything has a reason for happening, which would be deterministic. That is to say, you have faith that we occupy a deterministic reality.
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If God created man in his image, and the homosexual is a man, did God create the homosexual in his image?
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>>520413500
it's entertaining to see crossjews "debunk" each other.
just go on youtube, search for "[christcuck sect] debunked", find an interesting video, and then find out the sect of the christcuck that debunked [christcuck sect] and start once again.
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>>520434473
>sure, except that's how I decided to define faith for the context of our discussion
Well I don't agree with your use or term. As faith is the belief without evidence or reason..

I don't take life for granted because it's only granted once
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>>520434473
>having a reason in of itself implies determinism
I said multiple causes can create a reason or reasons. No, it is not deterministic to say that a reason can have multiple causes, in fact, the opposite is true: it is a well-established principle in philosophy, science, and logic that a single event, outcome, or "reason" (in the sense of an explanation or effect) can (and often does) have multiple causes.

Determinism is the philosophical view that every event is necessarily caused by prior events in accordance with unbreakable causal laws—i.e., given the same causes, the same effect must follow.

But determinism does not require that each effect has only one cause. It is fully compatible with multiple causation.
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>>520413500
We're all atheists now.
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What's funny is that 4chan isn't even pretending to be retarded any more, it just is.
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>>520413890
>>520415098
one day soon all bot spammers are going to be strung up in the streets if you're lucky enough not to get put in camps.
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>>520416229
Well maybe if Christians would come out and say "Every time an Israeli spits on a Christian we will execute three jews" we'd respect you more.

Instead you say we need to save nigerians.
Fuck niggers. Fuck jews. And fuck youse.
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>>520419817
>couch their criticisms of Christianity behind a shield of agnosticism
what's wrong with criticizing Christianity?
agnosticism is the only intellectually honest position. you don't know shit and neither does anyone else. atheists who believe in "no god" are the same as religious fanatics. you are all fucking retarded, but Christians might be the least retarded of the bunch. there are good theological reasons to go with Christianity unlike the mass of other religions.
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>>520413500
yeah because its now fashionable to be a religious retard instead. if you've ever even thought about god or 'meaning of life' before you're cattle and you need to be under slavery
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>>520416362
>islam-sympathizing femoid "spiritualists"
>atheist
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>>520434917
>it's only granted once
yet another "reasonable assumption"
whether or not you agree is irrelevant, as the term is still functional within my definition and it should allow you to understand what I mean regardless of your own predisposition

>>520435342
>it is not deterministic to say that a reason can have multiple causes
>single event, outcome, or "reason" can have multiple causes
>determinism does not require that each effect has only one cause. It is fully compatible with multiple causation.
ok, not sure if there's just a typo here or if you're just confusing yourself, but...
the very nature of cause and effect relationships is what is deterministic and all of that is just kinda irrelevant...
What you're doing is necessarily ascribing that relationship to phenomena that occur outside of your "reasonable expectations."
>I know there is a reason
aka. I know there is a cause and effect relationship that resulted in what I just experienced
this is called determinism. It's also an assumption. It's not necessarily true. There is not necessarily a reason. It's possible that reality is nondeterministic. To say otherwise is an assumption. It amounts to faith.

Finally, there's always something you're taking for granted at any given moment.
You wouldn't be able to coherently exist if you stopped to confirm every minutely identifiable characteristic within every waking moment of your conscience experience on this earth.
There are simply some things in this life that you will have to take for granted no matter what you do.
You, as well as nothing else that exists (except, perhaps, for these omnipotent gods that people talk about,) possess the time, resources, processing capability, perspective, etc. necessary to not ever take anything for granted ever.
Taking stuff for granted is a fundamental aspect of life. I think you're just not really understanding this very well.

Welp, considering how off-topic we've gone and how unanswered my question remains, I'm done.
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>>520437722
>what's wrong with criticizing Christianity?
nothing, i welcome it.
agnosticism has no place in the arena of ideas though.

>person1: i believe X here's why (positive claim)
>person2: i don't know that X is true! (claim to ignorance)
worthless, gay, stupid

>person1: i believe X here's why (positive claim)
>person2: well, i believe Y here's why (positive claim)
good

>person1: i believe X here's why (positive claim)
>person2: i believe X is false here's why (positive claim [asserts negative truth value for X])
good
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>>520438418
>>it's only granted once
>yet another "reasonable assumption"
I think so

>>520438418
>ok, not sure if there's just a typo here or if you're just confusing yourself
Saying "a reason can have multiple causes" is not deterministic, it is descriptively accurate and logically sound. Determinism concerns the necessity of effects given causes, not the number of causes per effect. In complex systems (biology, sociology, physics), multiple causation is the norm, not the exception.

Cause-and-effect is not deterministic in any of the following cases, that is, when the same causes do not always produce the same effect, or when no cause fully guarantees an effect.

Anyway this is all irrelevant

>I'm done
Yup
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>>520439653
>>person1: i believe X here's why (positive claim)
>>person2: i don't know that X is true! (claim to ignorance)
>worthless, gay, stupid
Not really. Your personal feelings don't always equal truth. That depends on the merit of the claim and its evidence.

So it's perfectly sound and reasonable to doubt your personal feelings as truth of they lack merit in its claim and arguments
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>>520439930
you completely misunderstood my point, but you've already that stated causality implies intention earlier this thread so there's no need for me to beat a dead horse.
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>>520439653
It's not possible to know whether God exists unless you've personally witnessed a miracle. Agnostics make the positive claim that it's NOT POSSIBLE to know whether or not God exists.

Of course, a single miracle which can be directly verifiable would immediately prove God's existence, but religious retards offer no such evidence (and never will). So it's not possible to confirm God's existence due to lack of presentable evidence. Agnosticism wins.
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>>520416797
Who was ruling it before them?
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>>520440162
>you completely misunderstood my point
Nope.

You just made a stupid argument

>but you've already that stated causality implies intention
See
>>520426149
>>Intent is a property of systems, not a substance that must be manufactured. It emerges wherever information-processing meets goal-directed behavior, whether the system is biological, artificial, or hypothetical.

Lol c'mon kiddo
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>>520440180
>It's not possible to know whether God exists unless you've personally witnessed a miracle
that's moronic.

if you witness a miracle you could just say
>daaaurrrr aliens done it!
>dauurrr it's a glitch in da matrix!
>derrrr i'm hallucinating!

you can come to the knowledge of God through much more rational means, like descartes did for example.
>>520440420
>nope
yup
>ur stupid
no u r
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>>520440477
>y..you misunderstood my point!!
.
.
.
.
>but I can't explain how!

C'mon kiddo
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>>520440616
ask your LLM to clarify it
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>>520440700
Kek, so you admit you don't even know

Lmao, what a fucking dumbshit you are
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>>520440477
>you can come to the knowledge of God through much more rational means, like descartes
sophistry, as the mere impossibility of thinking of God without existence does not entail that God actually exists.
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>>520428592
Uh yeah. That's because they stopped believing in God and were sodomites aka faggots. It's a faggot problem, not a problem of the teachings, etc... Use your brain.

Those who do have a 'good moral foundation' acquired it from Christianity (since the society they live in is still ultimately/culturally Christian), or because God's law is written on their hearts, as St. Paul says. Either way, it is grace from God and God tells you that He is the way.

No excuse for athiesm.
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>>520441413
>Those who do have a 'good moral foundation' acquired it from Christianity
Not really
>No excuse for athiesm.
Lack of belief in God or gods is what makes an atheist
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>>520413890
>>520415098
Hail Helios, Hail SOL
DEATH to Christ
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>>520440700
Ask your mother why her pussy is now destroyed (I fucked her pussy with my ginormous penis raw)
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>>520441608
agnosticism
https://search.brave.com/search?q=define+agnosticism&summary=1&conversation=c0684914a00d1ce9eeaa3b
atheism
https://search.brave.com/search?q=define+atheism&summary=1&conversation=1c42c7ec8ab43c47ce30cd
As always the Jew thinks repeating the lie often enough that it will become the "truth".
Btw having no position like i dont know is neither atheism nor agnosticism
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>>520442224
There isn't any lie
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>>520442403
gaytheists just use this made up nonsense to be able to hide behind agnosticism while still acting as if theism is false but not having to justify their claim to knowledge.
you never see "agnostic/gnostic" in the context of any other debate

>well, me? i'm an agnostic holocaustist. i believe that the holocaust happened but can't proooove it
you never see this shit used in scholarly debates on theism either, because everyone knows it's retarded.
peak internet atheism.
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>>520426292
You arent very smart, are you. Yes, no God, no telos. Look that word up
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>>520442653
Notice how this clown can't actually pose an argument, instead it's just
>me don't like it!

C'mon kiddo. It's really easy to see there's those who believe with and without certainty and those who lack belief without or without certainty.
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>>520441413
Meds
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>>520442849
>Yes, no God, no telos
For you.
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Atheism won by virtue of China winning
Anything else is cope
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>>520442935
Try arguments. It is what grown ups use. New to the 4chans much, kid
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>>520416362
Meanwhile, the teachings of Christ

>sell all property, leave society, live in a Christian community, await the end of the world, prepare for war with demons
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>>520442886
>Notice how this clown can't actually pose an argument,
do you need it in syllogistic form?

p1: distinctions like "agnostic/gnostic" are never used in scholar debates or other serious context (like the holocaust) because they are nonsensical and unnecessary for justifying claims.
p2: atheists employ the "agnostic/gnostic" distinction in debates about theism to claim uncertainty while treating theism as false without justifying their knowledge.
c: therefore, the "agnostic/gnostic" atheist framework is made-up nonsense used to evade justification, representing peak internet atheism.
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>>520443074
>Try arguments.
That is my argument. For you, without God there is no purpose or goals.

But your personal feelings doesn't always apply to others

You also didn't pose an argument. Just made a baseless statement

Try again duder
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>>520443240
>do you need it in syllogistic form?
They're irrelevant

Stay focused kiddo

>>520442886
>It's really easy to see there's those who believe with and without certainty and those who lack belief without or without certainty.
That's the argument
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>>520443241
>That is my argument. For you, without God there is no purpose or goals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativist_fallacy
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>>520443241
>But your personal feelings doesn't always apply to others
I am not a woman nor an emotional porn addict. I do rationality only. Try the five arguments for the existence of God by Thomas Aquinas. No faith required, pure reason only. You know this Godly gift that separates man from lowly beasts.
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>>520443396
This doesn't apply, as this isn't an argument about what is or isn't true. Rather about what works for someone and what doesn't for someone else.

>Try the five arguments for the existence of God by Thomas Aquinas
Very cool presuppositions. Can you demonstrate past them?
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>>520443314
>me: *posts argument*
>you: you have no argument
>me: *posts argument more clearly*
>you: s-stay focused kiddo
>>520443577
>as this isn't an argument about what is or isn't true.
yes it is, we're saying it's true that without God there's no telos and therefore no meaning
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>>520443577
Debunk the five arguments for God. You cant
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>>520424924
Do you believe in dark matter?
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>>520424924
You literally believe you are a monkey. The biggest Jewish lie in existence.
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>>520443659
>>me: *posts argument*
An irrelevant one

>>520443659
>>as this isn't an argument about what is or isn't true.
>yes it is
Nope. Because God being true is irrelevant if the belief works or doesn't work for someone

>>520443725
“No God, no telos” is a slogan, not an argument.

It fails because:
Telos doesn’t need God (Aristotle, evolution).

God’s absence isn’t proven.

Humans create telos anyway.

The universe behaves as if it has direction.

Total nihilism is incoherent.

>>520443725
>Debunk the five arguments for God. You cant
Prove it proves God. You mad the claim..
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>>520443659
>without God there's no telos and therefore no meaning
See
>>520443914
>“No God, no telos” is a slogan, not an argument.
>It fails because:
>Telos doesn’t need God (Aristotle, evolution).
>God’s absence isn’t proven.
>Humans create telos anyway.
>The universe behaves as if it has direction.
>Total nihilism is incoherent.
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>>520443914
How did the first movement start? Who or what put it into motion? Can you cause yourself to exist? Everything is contingent. Nothing can cause itself to exist. The universe couldnt cause itself to exist. There was nothing and BOOM there was something. Explain this because our science cant.
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>>520437462
It's true. They have yet to do anything worthy of respect, literally have amounted to nothing in life so far but a shitty AI clone. They don't even have good taste in things. Take a very good look around.
>>520415098
Spoken like a true parasite. Keep on letting the whole world know for me.
>>520441882
and glazing no nose in a museum ever new age weirdos too, ooooo boy
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>>520444155
>How did the first movement start?
Don't know. No one does

You're entire premise is God of the gaps
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HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever.
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>>520443995
>Telos doesn’t need God (Aristotle,
you're so goofy.
aristotle believed in a divine, eternal, immaterial being, a prime mover.
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>>520444317
Then nothing would have existed in the first place. Stick to the clown logic you are using. Stay true to yourself
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>>520444429
That makes no sense. Take your meds and cope.
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>>520444342
This dummy

No. Aristotle did not believe telos requires God in the way a creator-deity imposes purpose from outside.
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>>520444469
If everything were meaningless then there would be no reason for it to exist in the first place ergo the entire universe would have been nothing. no existence required
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>>520444501
sure, but that’s a bait-and-switch.
you invoked aristotle to argue that telos doesn’t need God, but aristotle’s entire metaphysics is built on a divine unmoved mover as the final cause of all motion and purpose.
just because his God isn’t a personal creator doesn’t mean it’s not a necessary, eternal source of telos.
so if you’re appealing to Aristotle, you’re still stuck with theism, you’ve just traded Yahweh for an unnamed God.
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>>520444745
>sure, but that’s a bait-and-switch.
No dummy it isn't

You are just like a leftist. Desperately looking for problems where there are none.
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>>520416362
Like did you even look up the percentage of Christians in these countries you retard? Most of them are Christian countries
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>>520416362
But I have plenty of purpose, lmao. It's YOUR fault if you don't know what to make of yourself. Try sucking less.
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>>520423652
Man I'm sneezin' up a storm pardner, from that strawman you got on your horse.
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>>520444953
Disgusting. Sinful minds are so disordered. Why would you have such an ugly picture saved to your HD?
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>>520445074

reproduction: >>520422154
physics: >>520422674
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>>520445260
>to name a few

It's like purposely being disingenuous is baked into your very being.
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>>520445397
>to name a few
if you name any "spook" like that, max stirner would think you're a faggot was my point in that tangent
you posting his caricature because it's a trendy cool leftist atheist thing to do was embarrassing
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>>520445553
>max stirner would think
I don't give a shit bro. Lol

Again,
>>520444808
>You are just like a leftist. Desperately looking for problems where there are none.

Lol, lmao
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>>520445700
>I don't give a shit
i figured, it was just extremely fucking cringe to argue for inherent meaning while posting stirner.
it's like a spoiled rich kid wearing a che guevara t-shirt.
absolutely embarrasing.
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>>520445857
Look another
>>520444808
>You are just like a leftist. Desperately looking for problems where there are none
Kek
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>>520445924
what views do you hold that make you different from a leftist as a same sex marriage affirming atheist male?
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>>520446236
>what views do you hold that make you different from a leftist
A man will never be a woman or vice-versa

You embrace this though
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>>520416362
>brownest places are the most hopeless
working as intended. another 10mil nigger are on the way
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criminal totalitarian imprisonment much?
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REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever.
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how is it that blacks and browns are to blame for you faggots trying to trick people that there is no god...God will not be mock
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>>520447901
>God will not be mock
Or what?
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I GUARANTEE that all "atheists" will be praying to sweet Jesus as their life flashes before their eyes on their deathbed, but then it will be too late. lol.
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>>520428765
atheists love to swallow semen and copulate in other men's hairy bungholes
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>>520448352
Jesus never existed
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>>520421597
we need to start publicly executing people like you. i'm so fucking tired of you faggots denying objective reality. jesus was jewish. cope, seethe, piss and shit your pants all you want. you worship a literal jew. fucking dumb retarded faggot.
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>>520448517
LOL, he is a historical man. Countless cultures have him recorded. Oh, we also reset our whole timeline. Didnt happen when your God Darwin called you ape, did it? Yeah the year zero must have quite the year. 2025 the year of our Lord.
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They were losers who thought they were special because they didn't believe in anything.
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>>520448752
Oh no my word of mouth is proof! Nope nice try kike
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>>520448752
>Countless cultures have him recorded
No they dont lol
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>>520448788
Atheists are without joy. They live meaningless lives but not a single one kills himself. Existence seems to be quite enjoyable. Literally what God told us "He saw that it was very good"
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>>520448890
underrated
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>>520448890
Meds. There is no god.
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>>520444155
>The universe couldnt cause itself to exist
why not? we don't know enough about the universe to say this with certainty.
>Explain this because our science cant.
that doesn't automatically mean "god" did it.
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>>520449064
Can you cause yourself to exist? Have you ever seen anything cause itself to exist? Do you know what the word contingent means?
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>>520413500

Christcucks created that stereotype. Just like Feminists, Christians and Feminists are the same people.
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>>520448890
>Atheists are without joy. They live meaningless lives
What's with this constant lie?
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>>520416432

We could still get the left images, we just need to get rid of the degenerates.
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>>520444155
>Explain this because our science cant.
Can't yet
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>>520449064
>space/time can exist logically (not temporally) prior to space/time in order to create space/time
stupid
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>>520449289
He forgot his meds
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>>520447308

Decide: 4chan are feds or is 4chan feds?

also, checkem deez nuts.
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Yeah internet atheists now pretend to be fucking christian of all things which was sort of always expected but definitely still hilarious
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>>520416362
>The world sucks
>Just believe in a magic sky man to feel better

Nah, I'm good. You can keep the fairytales.
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Sinners, read 4chan porn addicts, have darkened intellects. Sin literally makes you stupid. You dont want God to exist because that would mean you have to change. Or face perdition. Imago DEI, your soul is immortal. Perdition of life everlasting. Choose wisely
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>>520449521
i wish this was true
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>>520449462
>Bump this thread for li-ACK
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>>520449171
>i've never seen it happen so it doesn't exist
is this really how you live your life? we've only experienced ONE universe, ever. we have zero idea how they emerge and why they exist. because of this, we cannot say things like
>The universe couldnt cause itself to exist
with any certainty
>>520449335
our understanding of space/time is incomplete. that doesn't mean we shoehorn "god" into this incompleteness. it just means we don't know yet.
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>>520413500
>the tables turned hard on internet atheism
Nah, it just evolved as all things do. The new breed of Internet Atheism is represented by Alex O’Connor - well-spoken, polite and respectful of religion, while calmly dismantling it.
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HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity.
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>>520449675
>You dont want God to exist because that would mean you have to change
I have personal responsibility and family ans friends that hold me accountable

God is irrelevant to personal growth and change
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>>520413500
>atheist
>brony
If no one takes you serious it's not because of the atheism.
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>>520449901
REMINDER: there is a God and after you die you will be judged. God is infinitely merciful but also infinitely just. Everyone will either pay or get rewarded.
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>>520421114
What a dumb porn addicted faggot lol. You can always out an American because of how soulless and anti spiritual they are.
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>>520450128
>God is infinitely merciful but also infinitely just.
Cool, then he and I can have a honest conversation instead of moron zealots like you
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>>520450128
Meds. NOW.
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>>520428458
The West.
>post documentation
You're living it.
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THERE IS NO GOD
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>>520445210
Says the guy talking to me from the NETHERlands. Fuck off, Dumbledork.

>>520445260
What the fuck are you on about, schizo?
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>>520417024
Explain origin. Evolution could explain complex life (it can't, actually) but what is the origin of existence?
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>>520451298
Just because we haven’t been able to explain abiogenesis yet doesn’t mean a god did it moron
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>>520421114
Christianity is nonsense. Christians believe that a middle easterner from 2000 years ago will reappear one day, bring the dead back to life, and set up a utopian heaven-on-earth for a period of time. There might be problems with other religions, but they don't believe anything as retarded as that.

You're much better off worshipping Columbina.
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>>520451404
>Westerner in love with Japan
Why dont you move there? They dont want you. Where would they have been without the countless inventions from the Christian West?
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>>520451333
>2 more weeks and we'll understand
Yeah, Im the moron for understanding that whatever is behind creation itself is outside of said creation. And you're the smart one for thinking that eventually we'll science it out for sure. When you're done here practice breathing through your nose.
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>>520451629
How about you breathe through your ass? Homo. Your god doesn’t exist and when you die there will be nothing forever. Cope.
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>>520415098
>memeflag
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>>520413500
It was destroyed by one euphoric reddit post from a teenage retard. IMO the final nail in the coffin was Richard Dawkins sobbing about how England was better when it was Christian and that he’s a cultural Christian (meaningless statement). Absolutely spineless
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>>520423901
>DAILY REMINDER: there is no god and when you die it will be nothingness forever
iow, everything evolved out of nothing
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>>520451743
>nuh uh!
You can't even make a decent joke. Come on fool, try harder. Explain how nothingness gave rise to the fabric of space and all the matter and energy in it. Not only was their no painting, there was no paint and no canvas. Do you understand yet what you're proposing as the intelligent answer?
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We are ALL born atheists. That means all religion is mental illness.
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>>520452115
Not only can they not explain how life came to existence but the same applies to literal time and space. Nothing BOOM time and space. How did time and space cause themselves to exist? Never have us humans witnessed this feat. Not in our beloved laboratories either. Creation ex nililho
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>>520452124
So atheists are as smart as newborns. Got it.
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>>520452344
How do you get that from that? Nice try 80 IQ
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>>520413500
There's more backlash but the number of atheists are still on the increase
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>>520452498
Yes porn leads to more sin. Sin darkens the intellect. People are really stupid right now. Just look around you, midwits, midwits everywhere.
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>>520452124
If we're all born atheists why does every civilization everywhere have religion of some sort? Shouldn't human tend towards atheism naturally, not as an abberation?
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>>520452686
You forget control. Which was “religion’s” biggest goal. Worked like a charm. I mean look at you. Yikes.
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>>520452326
Orthodox is the true way.
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>>520452740
>im an ATHEIST, no one controls me!
>no i cant say nigger, i, um, i just cant
lel
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>>520453020
Um. Ok. Whatever.
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>>520413500
>>520413500
>>520413500
Daily reminder that all the "no tail" and furfag posts are made by VPN niggers of a troon squad from iDrama and Valent Projects cuckademics to normalize degeneracy across the board.
Same trannies who shill for Jewkraine and make the /uhg/ threads btw.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518123762/#518129824
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518281658/#518287969
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/518256371/#518256990
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>>520452740
>Yikes
Effeminate redditor that uses (current word). Got it. You think every civilization used the same tool for control? Separate people who never met or knew of each other's existence thought to themselves "Huh, if I invent the concept of a larger morality and convince people to believe it they'll do what I want. I should include sacrifice of valuable items to appease this god, murder and theft are bad..." and a thousand other similarities? Seems like a tall order. Where is the evidence for this?
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>>520453567
You can’t have morals without a nonexistent all seeing sky daddy huh? Riiiiight



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