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thanks glowie for your groundbreaking "music"
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Post Glowcore.
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>>523948537
>*RAND Corporation bell piano starts tinkling*
>*Zonked-out heroin zombie starts moaning 'SUUUUNDAY MOOOORNING'*
>*DARPA guitars pop in and pop back out*
>Album festooned with 'art' straight from Agent Warhol
>*FBI-financed heroin vocals warble back in*
>I'M... WAITING FOR MY MAN...
>*sloppy MK-Ultra circus music instrumental break*

Wow; thanks for the great 'music,' (((Velvet Underground))).
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>>523948435
>shitty MKUltra circus music starts playing
I EAT MORE CHICKEN THAN ANY MAN EVER SEEN
>shitty boomer guitar solo
She get high
SHE GET HIGH
SHE GET HIIIIIIIIGH
>shitty ten minute CIA-funded keyboard solo
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
>song ends
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>>523948435
i always saw zappa as a great troll
the music is deliberately dumb
the guitar was always over the top noodling like he was daring a real guitar player to tell him to shut up
but they just kept sucking him off harder

shit like "the black page"
>what if i just fill the whole music sheet up with notes until its unplayable bullshit
>generations of berkelee students waste decades learning to play shit nobody wants to hear

he was a troll, right? i cant be the only one who noticed
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Hot Rats is fucking brilliant.
Don't really care for the rest, but Hot Rats is a desert island album.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJd6zcLnuBs

Frank is based and pissed off the ADL with this then refused to apologize.
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>itt: tasteless plebs
Enjoy your nigger music you zoomer faggots
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>>523948921

>The ADL demanded an apology for his 1979 song "Jewish Princess" from the album Sheik Yerbouti, which they considered offensive due to its use of stereotypes. Zappa, a staunch advocate for free speech and a satirist who lampooned all groups, refused.
He famously stated in a 1991 interview: "I did not apologize then and refuse to do so now because, unlike The Unicorn, such creatures do exist -- and deserve to be 'commemorated' with their own special opus". He also argued that the ADL's demand was an attempt to control public relations and that he wouldn't "take any bull from them".
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>>523948537
possibly the most successful industry plants ever
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>>523948776
He was not a well-trained or well-practiced guitarist and admitted as such, saying he rarely practiced outside of tours and would be very sloppy when tours would start.
He was, however, an important, influential rock guitarist because he did a lot of modal shit that was unique for rock music.
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You guys ARE just shitposting, right?
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They cancer gunned Zappa because he was going to make a public access show centered around doxxing politicians' sponsors
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>>523948435
i unironically have now found ai music i like more than the other stuff currently popular lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGyg7I21rAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dscrj5Mm24c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2KLdkJnH-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng1PoCiYgDU
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>>523949524
the music industry has been enshittified for decades
they got used to going out, putting on a backing track and lip syncing
using click tracks and drum machines in studio, speeding up the music on tape, punching in extra notes, using autotune

not really a big shock that AI can just replace it all outright
everyone is already used to listening to faked shit from pro tools
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>>523948776
>black page

really not that bad, certainly devious rhythm, but Zappa started as a percussionist iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqmcNKTezSM

I never liked Zappa as a teen, I agree, it just sounded like noise, but after a lot of musical training I really do love it. Fell in love with it after watching the newer docu about him the other year.

>>523949146
>saying he rarely practiced outside of tours and would be very sloppy when tours would start.
you have to take this with a grain of salt. Zappa was a perfectionist and preparing for a tour meant 3 months of practice 12 hours a day. Zappa's guitar playing can be extremely difficult, maybe not because of sheer speed or anything, but just due to how eccentric it was. Rick Beato and his son Dweezil talk about it a bit in an interview they did together.
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>>523948776
black napkin is a really cool song. but yeah, i dont get 99% of his music because it sucked dick.
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>>523949354
it's just the paranoid schizophrenic crew

>>523948880
truth (and the album that converted me to FZ and his instrumental-only catalogue)
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>>523949524
>i unironically have now found ai music i like more than the other stuff currently popular lol
Me too.

I am running cats snoring / purring sleeping near a fireplace right now.
AI cat looks decent .

I am listening to ai smooth jazz, with
beach front,
autumn house on a lake,
seaside cabin.
Winter cabin with snow.
winter jazz, winter coffee shop ,etc
etc.
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>>523950802
you have bad ears. That shit still sound tinny.
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>>523949364
do tell, anon
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>>523948880
For me it’s Bongo Fury. I’ll give Hot Rats a listen though.
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>>523948435
>Shitting on Zappa while sucking Wacko Jacko's deformed cock.
Do Amerisharts really?
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somebody pull out the doors pasta
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Frank always looks so incredibly smug. Wherever he goes a haze of smug follows him.
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>>523948435
This, but unironically
Hot Rats slaps.
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>>523948537
Ultimate in glow.
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>>523948537
Rage against the machine
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>>523948435
You got filtered
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>>523948776
Here's the thing. They are all "trolls", or as we used to say jesters. A jester is the kings greatest advisor.
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>>523948435
I hate him so much. Talentless boomer slop
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>>523954811
Alright, post talented non-slop so we can see the good stuff
Hard mode: don't try to larp as a supremely cultured intellectual by posting classical music
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>>523948435
delivered pizza back in the day. One delivery, woman answers the door in a silk robe and nothing else. Tells me to step in and put the pizza on a table top while she went to get the money. i look around and picture frames everywhere. walls, counters on top of the fireplace. Everywhere...all of them of frank zappa...
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>>523948435
pantera shits all over fagga
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>>523948435
Dont forget doors Beatles led Zeppelin all occult and MK ultra
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>>523955181
Pipe down Cletus, they have 1 good album and some random bangers from other records but that's about it
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>>523948643
>>*RAND Corporation bell piano starts tinkling*
Is called celesta
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Zappa was one of America's great composers.

Most people don't recognize this for the same reason most people can't appreciate Tchaikovsky or transcribe Varèse.

People also don't know that even with his prodigious ability to write, almost all of his guitar solos were completely improvised. He called it "air sculpture."

Frank Zappa - Black Napkins
(Live on the Mike Douglas Show, 1976)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q0nImsfMvE

"You have a piece of time, and you get to decorate it." - FZ
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tN2QhNn6j5Q

RIP
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>>523949096
morose depression bullshit.
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>>523951768
That's basically it desu. Try the archives, maybe here, /mu/, /x/, I dunno. The plan for the show was explicitly anti lobbying, corruption, and cronyism, just being as cynical and open in their derision of the system as possible. He was also considering running for some kind of local office.
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>>523948435
>>523949011
>>523949096
Let me guess. Only instrument you faggots play is the male organ. Act edgy because you're no talent hacks.
Keep Swallowing!!
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>>523949364
>They cancer gunned Zappa
I dunno, for all of Zappa's scathing criticism of politicians I'd say a life living on a constant influx of coffee and cigarettes finally caught up with him.
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>>523948435
This book goes in depth on the entire laurel canyon scene being glowies and hippie culture being engineered pseudo subversiveness
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>>523957881
McGowan is the best
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I think only bob dylan is more overrated than this jazz level annoying asshat. But i came to hate poojeets so i must go. That song when he goes to a disco pisses me off the most
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>>523958350
Programmed to Kill is so fucking good dude. Every time I read it, I'm blown away. It's just that good.
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>>523949524
Well being retarded doesn't help
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Thingfish was Zappa's most prescient album.
It predicted the negrification of Western culture, and depicted the jiggaboo entertainers as duck-faced incontinent potato-headed mutants, and how it would be embraced and applauded by urbane theater-going cucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIhBIzsZaxw&list=RDLIhBIzsZaxw&start_radio=1
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>>523948880
I've got a vinyl copy of Hot Rats. It's a nice record. Favourites are Apostrophe, and Overnight Sensation though.
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>>523948880
Please listen
Billy the Mountain destroys
All of Franks works are Brilliant.
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>>523957881
Mutt rock is pretty poor, anyway
in particular, Krautrock is infinitely better than any shit psychedelia Mutts ever produced
see Can, Amon Düül II, Guru Guru, Kraan, etc
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>>523957881
and of course, in France, we have Magma, which is greater as well than Mutt rock (which isn't so hard, but Magma is fucking great)
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>>523959073
lmao fuck off euromutt your entire life is copying america

and failing
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>>523959145
Based Frogman, I literally discovered Magma not that long ago. Though Burgers have Blue Oyster Cult which is S-tier.
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these are some of my favorite threads — also was Nirvana an op?
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Most music listeners are average or below, and always need to know where the one is.

That's not a bad way to be, it just precludes most people from even understanding, let alone appreciating, Zappa's music.

George Duke and Napoleon Murphy Brock talk about Frank Zappa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN2gGZcNlA8
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>>523957656
>I'd say a life living on a constant influx of coffee and cigarettes finally caught up with him.
literally me
based ahdhd zappadapperdoo
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>>523959183
lrn2rock first, Muttie
even the britbongian sodomites btfo you as far as rock goes, lmao
you're good at metal, but rock? lolno
unless you start counting fusion as rock (I don't, plus it's owed to negroes like Miles Davis and Sun Ra), but that's it
Mutts can't rock, is all
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>>523959073
Huh.
I have some Amon Duul in the record collection I inherited from a hippie, who is probably dead now.

I'll give it a spin once I dig it out from under the XTC discography in the same box.
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>>523959472
https://youtu.be/pHyVtufqHyk
its all fake and gay theatre
literally
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>>523953884
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chYkhlCon6E
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Not reading this thread at all.
>The Rolling Stones is probably objectively the best rock band of all time
>Phish is musically the most impressive group of "rock" musicians of all time
>Geese's album 3D Country is one of the best rock albums of all time
>I like music more than you
>Jimmy Hendrix never wrote 1 (one) good song
>you're are mom gay
>fuck you
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>>523959587
1969 - Phallus Dei (even a psyche song about pedos)
1970 - Yeti
1971 - Tanz der Lemminge
those are the very best
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>>523948435
Zappa was as far from a glowie as it gets. He was anti establishment, called out psyops and was killed by the government
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>>523948776
He was but what's wrong with that. It's like some zoomer getting mad because they failed their job interview for littering their coffee cup instead of returning it to the designated clean up wagie.
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>>523955513
It's probably the Rhodes, if we're talking 60's glownigger music.

>>523958448
Somebody once told me years ago, "Frank Zappa is to guitar playing what Bob Dylan is to singing."
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>>523959686
>>Jimmy Hendrix never wrote 1 (one) good song
This is the only correct line in your entire post.
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>>523948880
>>523950038
You don’t get it because YOU suck dick
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>>523959374
>Blue Oyster Cult
not the worst Mutts made, but still pretty weak and lil'sing-a-song-y
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>>523959677
>>523953884
oh sorry posted the wrong part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBlOl_gpVI
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>>523948880
The only good parts are the jazz violin solos and zappa had nothing to do with those other than hiring the players for his album, they were professionals not members of his band.
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I want a nasty little Jewish Princess (la-la-la)
With long phony nails and a hairdo that rinses (wee-ohh)
A horny little Jewish Princess
With a garlic aroma that could level Tacoma (phh)
Lonely inside
Well, she can swallow my pride

I need a hairy little Jewish Princess (la-la-la)
With a brand new nose, who knows where it goes (wee-ohh)
I want a steamy little Jewish Princess (shh)
With over-worked gums, who squeaks when she cums
I don't want no troll
I just want a Yemenite hole

I want a darling little Jewish Princess (la-la-la)
Who don't know shit about cooking and is arrogant looking (wee-ohh)
A vicious little Jewish Princess
To specifically happen with a pee-pee that's snappin'

All up inside
I just want a Princess to ride
Awright, back to the top, everybody twist

I want a funky little Jewish Princess (la-la-la)
A grinder, a bumper, with a pre-moistened dumper
A brazen little Jewish Princess (hey-oh)
With Titanic tits, and sand-blasted zits
She can even be poor
So long as she does it with four on the floor
(Vapor-lock)

I want a dainty little Jewish Princess (la-la-la)
With a couple of sisters who can raise a few blisters
A fragile little Jewish Princess
With Roumanian thighs, who weasels 'n' lies

For two or three nights
Won't someone send me a Princess who bites
Won't someone send me a Princess who bites
Won't someone send me a Princess who bites
Won't someone send me a Princess who bites
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Pink Floyd's Syd Barrett MkUltra LSD victim.
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>>523957656
He went from nothing to stage 4 prostate cancer and ded inside of like three months. It's sketchy.
>>523958448
John Prine is everything Dylan and his butt buddy Leonard Cohen are made out to be
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>And the Jewess had a hairy
>Pusssyyyyyyyy! Thanks everybody here in Keokuk, thanks to my band, with the retard on drums, offkey doing backup vocals and the strings who only tune their garbage once a year!
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>>523948643
kek, adnd produced in laurel canyon
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>>523951993
The single most overrated band of all time. Mediocre and unoriginal. Was bubble gum bullshit then the Stones and The Who happened and they did a mediocre impression of that stuff.

Garbage. Maybe two good songs and only good, nothing great. You can play any song of theirs on every instrument after one listen if you're even moderately good.
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>>523959766
Do you seriously not like the fucking Rolling Stones? They beats the pants off of all of their peers. I don't expect someone from croatia to even know who phish is, but who is a better rock band than The Rolling Stones? The Beatles? The Beach Boys? Please...
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https://youtu.be/TFxGcquXj5M
is pol the dumbest board out there now? this used to be common knowledge on here and /tv/ and old youtube becfore it was all purged
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>>523949807
>but after a lot of musical training I really do love it.
cringe this is like a phd in beatles lyrics when the band itself admits it's all made-up hogwash
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>>523960479
The Who

But it's debatable. You're not wrong.
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>>523959374
also, if you discovered Magma not too long ago, Theusz Hamtaahk is meant as a single work, but has been released in reverse order:
(1981) Retrospektïw I (live)
(1974) Ẁurdah Ïtah
(1973) Mëkanïk Dëstruktïw Kömmandöh
though the lives are good, problem with lives is the voices, in particular, and cymbals as well (hard to put a mic right on those), are generally poorly recorded (because it's hard, granted)
and those are pretty important in Magma (big vocals, and the band leader being the drummer)
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>>523960479
>They beats the pants off of all of their peers.
Yeah, during the special olympics EZmode era of rock/pop, when everything was so new all you had to do was crank up the amplifiers and shout into the microphone (like the doors). and the advertisers would hire crowds of women to scream and pretend to faint
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>>523960167
to be fair, piper at the gates of dawn is weak, and he left before A Saucerful of Secrets was finished, lol
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>>523948435
zappa tried so hard to be a 70s era nigger
cringe shit
but he often had decent views on society other than that
he hated everything the US stood for from what i remember
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>>523960570
/co/ will always be looked down on by everyone because they both are stupider than your average leftist and smellier than AEW fans who are smarter on /pw/
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>>523960479
>but who is a better rock band than The Rolling Stones
CCR? deep purple? Nazareth? the list is basically endless
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>>523960479
>who is a better rock band than The Rolling Stones? The Beatles? The Beach Boys?
they're allweak
Mutt rock is weak (always has been)
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>>523960479
They just never did it for me, man. I agree with the French anon. Maybe I listen to music too much but these days the only thing that gets me going is dissonance, irregular beats, avantgarde type of stuff. I've probably heard more music than 99.99% of people here, not exaggerating.
Sometimes I like regular extreme metal or hard rock to shut my brain off and relax a bit, but the classic straightforward stuff is mostly just really boring. If I can predict how the riff will continue during my first playthrough, it feels a bit like a Formula 1 driver watching kids driving go-karts, you know what I mean? There's only so much you can do with music before you need some radical innovation.
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>>523960849
CCR maybe. Exile on Main St. is a top ten album with zeroish hits. (One)
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>>523960479
The Stones were terrible. Mick can't sing and the Stones, aside from Mick Taylor, can't play their instruments very well.
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>>523960849
>CCR
they were fake folk revivalists and very one note. Nobody even knows those other shitty bands except every bass player learns smoke on the water. Seriously, are you joking anon?
>>523960591
The Who Suck. Pinball Wizard and Baba O'Rielly were when cringe were invented.

The only competitor against the Rolling Stones is Lynyrd Skynyrd but idk if it's fair because they came later. The Grateful Dead are peers, kind of, but even as a lifelong dead head I wouldn't compare them to the fucking rolling stones.
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>>523960963
>only thing that gets me going is dissonance
You'd probably like some Wilco re: rock music.
Jeff Tweedy fucking loves his dissonance and musical chaos.
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>>523960881
mutt rock changed the world, and what has france done? charles aznavour, an armenian, was the last pulse before mass immigration and now it is africa. besides the bait, because most of the bands you call mutts are british
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>>523960963
Go to youtube and look up a phish concert, listen to the whole thing
>I've probably heard more music than 99.99% of people here, not exaggerating
imagine typing this
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>>523948435
Uncle meat was ok.
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>>523948880
I remember listening to this is on mushrooms. Looking down from the clouds on the planet below. Conjuring fire from my fingers for the people below. Navigating by streetlight. Good times.
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>>523960963
>the only thing that gets me going is dissonance, irregular beats, avantgarde type of stuff. I've probably heard more music than 99.99% of people here, not exaggerating.
that's what happens, to people who actually listen to music
you end up wanting more consistance, and you don't get that with easy listening
>Sometimes I like regular extreme metal or hard rock to shut my brain off
I can't do that with metal: mostly into death, and the proper kind is fast and technical enough to entertain me
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>>523961087
>mutt rock changed the world
not really
it changed normies a bit, but not even in a good way
>what has france done?
Magma, for instance
or Air
better than any Mutt rock, really
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>>523960479
>phish
some of the gayest shit of all time
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>>523960257
>He went from nothing to stage 4 prostate cancer and ded inside of like three months. It's sketchy
Again, perhaps. The oligarchs kill whoever they want whenever they want.

But I think Zappa looked pretty sick the last few years of his life, and 2-3 years is a common life expectancy for untreated prostate cancer. I think Zappa had cancer for a while and it just escaped detection.

If I'm going to bet, I think glowie wet work is a lot less plausible than standard shitty US doctoring (which was the #3 cause of death in America last I checked).

60+ albums in less than 40 years is an amazing amount of music.
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>>523961262
phish anon hear, I don't listen to metal really but I love Gorguts, Nile, Heavy Heavy Low Low and old Gojira. If you like dissonance and unexpected stuff in music you need to listen to some phish concerts. NOT albums. You never listen to a jam band's album.
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>>523961035
Lol you are really a fool to slander CCR, a greater fool to call them "one note" versus the rolling stones of all faggotbands, and thridly, everyone 'knew' deep purple you newfag. Lynyrd Skynyrd...holy shit. You have the taste of an ultranormie. If I hear "THE STONES" I turn that shit off. Garbage tier songwriting with 50s tropes and a retard banging his snare on the downbeat. If I want to hear dumb southern vibe jams with boomer bends in the pentatonic scale for 50 minutes, yes I'll play some "Lynyrd".
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>>523960442
It's children's music for the most part.

Listen to the first album. It's all doo-woppy dahhh deeee bullshit.
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>>523961262
This...

I like very technical metal. Usually fast but sometimes you get Opeth or something that's a bit of everything and extremely proficient. Well, no... I guess it's just Opeth now that I think of it

Metal and classical (not soft or light classical) are really it for me these days.
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>>523961344
>t. has never listened to phish
here's a 2 minute song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-drNSlrz_Q
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>>523961044
A bit too soft for my liking.
When I say dissonant rock, I mean stuff like Daughters.
https://youtu.be/cqa4_YuQQV8
>>523961097
I know about Phish. Don't like them too much, though.
>imagine typing this
It's true.
>>523961262
>I can't do that with metal: mostly into death, and the proper kind is fast and technical enough to entertain me
Yeah exactly, less technical stuff is okay for some background noise but if we're talking Deathspell Omega type of stuff, that's when you lock in. Stuff that you can listen to a billion times and still hear something new every time, and it's really hard to memorize so you can play an entire album in your head.
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>>523961439
imagine trying this hard over bands they play on the radio. I'm glad you like CCR pretending to be down home hicks as a bunch of berkley students. They made cool songs.
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>>523961341
>not really
So you are pretending to be a fucking idiot for the sake of it
Funny, I was just in SEA and they have hard rock cafes everywhere but not a single french restaurant
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>>523961440
Yeah, it's terrible... They just wanted to stay popular. Trash all the way through their discography. I've had to listen to it with people who act like they're this genius, influential band (the most influential band ever according to some)... I don't hear their influence in anything after them that was any good

Hell, Metallica is more influential. James Hetfield I can still hear in the people after him.
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>>523961526
>I know about phish
no you don't you 3rd world slavic retard. This is phish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FWG4sJqt_g
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>>523961421
>phish
don't know them
but added them to my listen list
>Gorguts
meh
>Nile
great first albums (from Black Seeds of Vengeance to Annihilation of the Wicked)
>Heavy Heavy Low Low
coreshit
>old Gojira
less coreshit than now, but still
>You never listen to a jam band's album
Krautrock blocks your (jazz too, fwiw)
Krautrock is almost entirely spliced jams (and with scissors, at the time), and there are a tons of great studio albums
eg Can is among what I have with the highest dynamic (>20dB for 3 albums, and not much less for the others: of course, stay clear from remastered sacd shit; listen to 80's cd instead)
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>>523961594
Popular does not automatically mean good.
He's right about the normies, but normies aren't exactly a measure of quality.
The Doors suck, Jimi Hendrix sucks, Janis Joplin sucks, Grateful Dead suck, The Beatles suck, yet all of them are massively popular.
>>523961669
Yes anon, that is Phish, I know.
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Isn't Zappa like the anti glowie? I fuckin love Zappa one of the raddest dudes ever. It's a shame (((they))) killed him with cancer. Go listen to Muffin Man right now

https://youtu.be/kwgYSfqO0fg
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https://youtu.be/5IfdtxJMbQk
imagine watching or listening to this stupid filth where everyones a masonic pedophile ftm mtf faggot
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>>523961480
lol, yeah
I'm into classical, jazz, (mostly) prog rock and extreme metal
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>>523961658
I like a few songs of theirs, some are fun. Kids's songs, catchy tunes. Some of the stuff where John pretends to be a black blues man.

But they aren't legendary, not one good album was made by a Beatle after they parted. Not one.
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>>523960442
I like to think of them as the first boy band ever
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>>523961585
Dude all music is fake and gay, that is a given. You are at mouthbreathing levels of analysis if you even consider a band's 'image'. The noteworthy thing about CCR is that john fogerty wrote all the songs and wrote so many hits that he should be basically considered a Bach-like figure, in a pop music context of course. not only that, his vocals were the absolute best.

And here's how I know you are full of ass. if you were alive when Put a spell on you came out, and heard that shit on the radio, you would have been just as perplexed, mind blown and awestruck as everyone else. it's like the billie jean track of that era. Same with deep purples Hush and later highway star. but you only know the trope track that survived the decades (smoke on the water) like a good goy
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>>523961780
Not really heard Phish but Mirko here is dead on about all these others being trash.
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>>523961780
>doesn't listen
>yes I know
>I hate everything
I genuinely wish I could kill people like you. Autistic faggots who do nothing but bitch and cry out of pocket do not deserve to breathe air. If I had the ability I would come to your goat fucking village, tie you down, flay all of the skin off of your muscle and force you to actually listen to a song for more than 10 seconds while salting the wound and then leave you for the birds. This isn't a personal attack over phish btw, everyone with your condition should be treated this way.
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>>523961915
>not only that, his vocals were the absolute best.
Yeah. For reals.
My wet dream band would be The Allman Brothers Band, but with Fogerty on vocals instead of Gregg.
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>>523961594
no: I'm just not delusional
I'm fine with people listening to whatever they want, but pop rock (that which most people who ever listened to rock do listen, and that which we're talking about with Mutt rock) isn't that dissimilar to any other pop (it's just sloppy soup, whichever the kind)
and it thus didn't change people that much
anyone who pretends otherwise is either delusional, or controlling opposition, really (that is the very thread subject, btw)
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>>523961915
Only this is fake and gay
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>>523961915
>I only enjoy american pop acts from 50 years ago
>the netherlands
why do yuropoors even post? Do you faggots have even one clue how pathetic you are?
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>>523961972
>calls someone else autistic while sperging out like a special ed kid after he realizes his classmate ate all the red crayons because they are the tastiest
Are you currently high on meth?
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>>523961526
>Deathspell Omega
they are good.... french bm scene created some really dark and interesting bands, not anywhere as good as the Scandi scene, but still put their own style on the map... i always get the feeling of deep catacombs with french bm...sometimes exactly what the mood calls for
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>>523961780
>The Doors suck, Jimi Hendrix sucks, Janis Joplin sucks, Grateful Dead suck, The Beatles suck, yet all of them are massively popular.
This i agree with, but they mostly suck in hindsight. it was different then. (beatles always sucked)

regardless, I never said it was good, only that it changed the world, which it did. and in order to do that it has to have some redeeming qualities... I think. It's impressive to be so culturally impactful. The same can be said about nigger rap, regrettably. the phenomenon is impressive but the music is obviously disgusting.
50 Cent songs are just pop songs with nigger mumbling over it. System of a down is mostly pop songs with armenians screaming over it.

jimi hendrix is another example, I do not care for the music but he did "revolutionize" guitar playing, I can be honest about that.

Anyway we are like adults discussing mars bars and soda pops here, as anon pointed out ITT, all pop music is disgusting vile candy. if the chords dont have 4 notes or 5 notes at least, it's probably shit music. And there need to be so many chords that you cant easily put it in a scheme. Otherwise, a faggot will play it at a campfire. When you are a grown man you desire harmonic complexity
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>>523962115
imagine posting this. Have fun listening to your dogshit sniffing your own farts all day retard, Everything I listen to rules and is more """dissonant""" and """musically interesting""" than whatever dogshit reheated bullshit your third world yurostarve ass has "discovered". We could have an actual musical discussion but you would prefer to be a pigheaded cock inhaling faggot so fuck you. It doesn't matter one lick to me if retards on 4chan listen to anything actually good. Every single time I try to talk about music with you fucking idiots it's this war for no reason. I'm glad none of you enjoy anything, it's what you deserve.
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>>523961972
>>523962115
kek
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE PHISH I WILL TIE YOU DOWN, MUTILATE AND FORCE YOU TO LISTEN
most sane faggot Boomer rock enthusiast
Phish sucks ASSHOLE
gayest shit ever
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>>523960257
Or maybe he had prostate cancer for a long time but never went to the doctor until it was too late
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>>523962566
Why are you so angry anon?
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>>523948643
kek. boomers truly were retarded
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>>523962236
Based, French BM is actually my favourite, it's mostly better than Norwegian. They know their music in all genres, what can I say. Scandinavians are not too far behind, though.
>>523962576
Kek based, I was absolutely uninterested in their music before this asshole popped up in the thread but now I straight up dislike them. Maybe he actually hates them and is doing some reverse psychology 4D chess?
>>523962436
Fair enough. I'd call Opeth an amazing band, for example, and Mikael said that The Beatles were a big influence on him. At least they did some good.
Anyway, before I leave, I may as well promote the Croatian scene a bit. Here's one of our non-standard sounding rock bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlFj5OOFdIg
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The worst song ever is KNOCKING ON HEAVEN'S DOOR

This is the most embarrassing aspect of "rock music". Let's forget the rolling stones and discuss the retardation of this track.

The music is just a boomer's wet dream with exclusively pentatonic boomer guitar noodling without aim or direction.

Then you have this guy, this stupid moron, whining over it in his nasal voice going HAY HAY HAY knoCK KNOCK KNOCKING ON HEVVIN'S DOWOWOWO. What a fucking retarded track. Imagine looking back on that and being proud. lmao. A stupid cacophony of pentatonic guitar jamz (Dude,radical) with this whining, high pitched moron, low IQ retard, screaming his stupid retarded lyrics at the top of his lungs, and getting paid $ Millions for it.
Im sure we can all agree how fucking stupid that shit is
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>>523962576
missing the point. I don't care if you don't like phish, but you've never listened to a phish concert and neither had that other guy. You're genuinely ignorant, mad about it, and want to fight about it. I could fill this thread up with music that doesn't sound anything like phish for the next 170 posts, different genre every song and you and that other queer would bitch about every single one and listen to none of them. You want to be a miserable bitchy little faggot and congratulations, you are one.
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>>523962717
Loves DSO and hates Dylan for something other than being a jew?
Damn, /pol/ has more based anons than you'd think.
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>>523961809
With Zappa i much prefer the live performances
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGV3yV9q4Q4&list=RDHGV3yV9q4Q4&start_radio=1
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>>523962715
Ncie, I was at opeth this year, The night and the silent water is one my favorite songs ever. I hate their new shit though. It ends with "watershed" for me, and I love every album until it. it is one of the best metal bands, I know this, because I still listen occasionally.

I can even enjooy the Bitlovs, contextually, to be fair. Times wuz different. have a good day
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>>523962715
I also rate the French for Black Metal.
But that tends to be an indicator that they are going through a period of existential despair, and are about to go full cuck mode.

Black Metal sounds great; then you realize the scene is degenerate, and the artform itself is actually a cry of inarticulate pain and bewildered directionless outrage.
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>>523962717
Keked, and based post
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>>523961739
phish will blow ur mind. listen to golgi apparatus. tho they are just grateful dead tranny edition. still really good.
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>>523948435
Guy Fawkes
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>>523963070
the grateful dead are way better songwriters but as far as musicianship phish blows them out of the water. You don't even have to like phish but to not recognize how talented they are is just ridiculous.
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>>523962717
That's bad , anon , but that's nothing. This is the worst song of all time . Fuck these captchas man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f06QZCVUHg
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>>523963013
Music really affects your mood, and shapes your identity (as a youngfag)

I agree with the take on BM.

lots of late rock can be analyzed as a gigantic psyop to depress whites born after 1985. The korn, slipknot, bizkit trifecta of mental illness.
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>>523962715
>French BM
i like that it has it's own flavor, but overall, have to choose Scandi since they created it and came up with so many different styles from stripped down raw/violent to highly professional and all inbetween, but it's all good....bm as a whole is incredibly interesting and is the only thing that feeds any sort of soul i still have left

>>523962728
i'm mostly fuckin with you, i don't really care
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>>523948435
She lives in Mojave in a Winnebago
His name is Bobby, he looks like a potato
She's in love with a boyFrom the rodeo
Who pulls the rope on the chute
When they let those suckers go
He got slobberin' drunk at the Palomino
They give him thirty days in San Ber'dino
Well there's forty-four men
Stashed away in Tank "C"
An' there's only one shower
But it don't apply to Bobby
You may think they're
Dumb an' lonely
But you're wrong
'Cause their love is strong
Stacked-up hair
An' a cheap little ring
They don't care
'Cause it don't mean a thing
Looka there...
They don't care
Best-est way that
They can feel-o
Out on the highway
Rollin' a wheel-o
He's her Tootsie
She's for real-o
Trailer park heaven
It's a real good deal-o
Real good deal-o
Real good deal-o
Real good deal-o
Real good deal-o
The rest of their lives
In San Ber'dino
Gonna spend the rest of their lives
In San Ber'dino
Gonna spend the rest of their lives
Down in San Ber'dino
Come on with me
Come on with me
Come on with me
Down in San Ber'dino
Just 60 miles, 60 miles
Down the San Ber'dino freeway
They got some dark green air
An' you can choke all day
That's right!
Gonna spend the rest of their lives
Rest of their lives
Say now,
Ain't talkin' 'bout Fontana
Ain't talkin' 'bout the Redlands, no no
ZULCH is the auto works
I'm tellin' you
That's where they take All the cars that they hurt Come on and let's all go down to San Ber'dino Let's-a go down down down
Down in San Ber'dino
Wouldja b'lieve it Wouldja b'lieve it now, come on
San Ber'dino San Ber'dino San Ber'dino
(Got to call it)
San Ber'dino
(C'mere)
San Ber'dino
San Ber'dino San Ber'dino San Ber'dino
(Oh, God, they all stay there)
The rest of their lives
In San Ber'dino
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>>523963293
>Imagine being shaped by a goblin
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>>523963298
>i'm mostly fuckin with you, i don't really care
this was cute 16 years ago when 4chan still had multi paragraph "effortposts". It's not anymore. Nobody reposts a 4chan post from this last entire decade (the 2020s). You know why? Because everyone is an insincere little cocksucker like you.
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>>523963013
>Black Metal sounds great; then you realize the scene is degenerate, and the artform itself is actually a cry of inarticulate pain and bewildered directionless outrage.
disagree
if you have your shit together to make an album yourself, which most bm bands do, some even play all instruments by themselves - then you have very clear direction, more so than almost everybody else on earth
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>>523948776
>he was a troll, right?
Dude, uh, I'm just gonna say it, ...
You're establishment.
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>>523948880
My nigga
My favorite Zappa album so far.
>>523958712
These two are considered his best and the first ones I started with.
>>523963230
Missing Kiko?
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>>523963186
kek, yeah mildly triggering, depending on the day. I have to admit I like that song's chorus. here are some more songs that send me into a rage:
>"You give love a bad name"
Fucking retarded stadium NASCAR track for absolute morons
>"Born in the USA"
This is like getting musically whipped. the guy screams at you at the top of his lungs over the most boring track. the snare drum keeps whipping you, as a reminder that the song still isn't over, and he isn't done screaming about it

I swear to god, the first lines of that first song I mentioned trigger me so hard, I want to foam at the mouth, Im in fact getting angry right now. SHIT ON THE HEART!! AND YOURE TO BLAME@!!!

then I switch the radio and I hear a faggot going "WORDS!!!! Don't come easy"
I switch again and what do i get. "Iiiiiiiiii wont let you down" which has probably the most annoying and fucked up verses of any song ever written

Fucking boomers man, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH no Fucking escape from these halfdead morons
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>>523963070
it's almost 6am, and I'm listening to Fingolian shoegazey post-rock with falsetto voices (Kairon; IRSE!, which is pretty cool)
blowing my mind is prbly a big expectation
but looking at the style, I at least have good chances to enjoy it, so thanks for the suggestion
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>>523948435
Yeah, he was CIA. That’s true.
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Picrel is the most advanced form of music presented ITT (my own taste trumps all). If you want something that rewards patience instead of rewarding gayness, check it out.
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>>523948435
I generally don't like "music for other musicians". Zappa... Rush... It's almost like an in-joke. Like if you know musical theory you can go "Aha, tee hee, I see what you did there". But if you just want to listen to some fucking music, it's not fun to listen to.
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>>523949096
Jerry Garcia was a full agent.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORL36OsbtDc fucking hell this shitis sending me. cant talk. catch you on the flip flop. unhgh
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>>523948435
i don't know why anyone liked zappa, his music sucked.
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>>523963374
I'm sorry you got a head like a potato

I really am
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>>523960577
I agree, musical training doesn't necessarily matter, but a trained ear helps to know what you're listening to, especially with chaotic Zappa. It helps to be familiar with all the american or experimental forms he plays with. But bottom line is I like what I hear. Like I owe some wasted dutch fuck who couldn't tell a perfect fifth from an octave apart an explanation anyway.

>the band admits it was all hogwash
what out of context quote are you misinterpreting, I wonder
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Marduk is the most violent live band still and they're 50 years old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0z8nLqvaPY
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>>523948435
op is a faggot as usual.

vai talks zappa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1RguHA4XE
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>>523949524
Probably because you're a faggot.
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>>523961809
zappa is based. op however.....
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>>523948776
He openly said as much. The thing about being an arrogant ass is it has a lasting effect if you have some talent. He also wasn't a bad guy to people he knew well that didn't fuck him over. If he was such a glowie as claimed by shill threads because of his father's job, why would he have been treated so badly by the police establishment to the point he had PTSD from jail?
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>>523948435
Pacification of the American people so they can implement stealing trillions of dollars from us to breed nigger and gook armies. And everyones parents fell right into it
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>>523948694
I hate this pasta. Schizos think their own shadow is a gangstalker.
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>>523958967
Ethel, want to go to a Howard Johnson's?
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>>523951903
Hot Rats is like Bongo Fury if he good
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Stupid zumzums never consider time and space. If you weren't there, you wouldn't understand. FZ ownz and "Weasels ripped my Flesh" is a trippy record. Also love his live double albums, always great talent across all his bands. Steve Vai, Adrian Belew of King Crimson, Terry Bozzio and so on.
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>>523948694
Is “she get high” an actual song?
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>>523948776
He said the lyrics never mattered.
And yet, they're great!
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>>523948435
"Mudshark" is a real song by Zappa, I kid you not.
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>>523967410
It's part of break on through. The uncensored version has only hit US airwaves in recent years for clearchannel. The original vinyl was censored outside of Europe too. That's what's cut out in the 'she get' part. LSD was legal then amd every pretentious thing about college kids is derivative from the ones from then. Break on through is itself a reference to Huxley



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