Two came at my door to tell me life could be better. I IRL laughed at them.
>>524049575Are they the same weird faggots that HAVE to eat a whole bread if offered food? Do they eat pork?
what religion is it even? Jehovah is Jesus in Hebrew, right? Are they jews?
>>524049575What even?
They're a cult and use social isolation (shunning) as a punishment tactic. You're told not to have any associations with "worldly" (non-JW) people. So the cult becomes the sole form of social support. They also make their members do a certain number of hours of cult recruitment every week. And they have to report their hours.So basically, OP, if they don't knock on your door, they lose their friends and family.
>>524049627I don't know of any practice of having to eat what is offered by them, but yes they do eat pork.>>524049675It's a form of Christianity that denies the divinity of Christ and misinterprets a number of different parts of the Bible. They take Paul way too fucking seriously. Paul says "don't even eat at the same table as a sinner", they will refuse to eat dinner with a family member who breaks a church rule. Paul says don't eat blood? Well, they think that means you can't have a blood transfusion.They also don't celebrate birthdays or most holidays because they're pagan.
>>524049732I´m already the worst kind of christian to try and convert, they keep coming at my door lmao. Why even try?https://youtu.be/SyKnlrBavlo?list=RDSyKnlrBavlo
>>524049878>Well, they think that means you can't have a blood transfusion.Idk about you anon, but I don't want vaxxed blood. I'd rather die.
>>524049675They are a cult. They are weirdos for the most part.
>>524049575Heretics.
My uncle and aunt are in it. None of their kids are JW and they haven't excommunicated them or cut contact. They don't go to church services themselves as far as I know. My uncle is extremely money driven (despite not being a jew) and I think he joined the JW to leverage all the social benefits you get from it. For example, his financial adviser is JW and he also advises my parents but he very obviously doesn't give a shit about my parents while bending over backwards for my uncle. He got into amazon, apple and nvidia at very good times all thanks to him.Their lawyer is a JW, if they ever need any sort of trades work done around the house they get a JW person to do it etc etc. I'd have thought that just being in a regular Christian church would have similar benefits but I guess it's on a different level when it's a cult.
>>524050511thats basically how the freemasons work for 99% of members. sounds like you've got a pretty active kingdom hall in your town
>>524051121They're Americans and live in the US. I've never heard of JWs operating locally where I'm at though I assume there is some small number of them.
>>524049575Idk but the second I tell them Im Catholic they shut up quick and move on.
>>524050511So its a cult. Better off in Catholic or Orthodox Church.
>>524049732Came here to post this. Know 3 ex-JWs who have been horribly abused and/or shunned by their families.
>>524051209yeah i was wondering how active they could be in Serbia
My brother is a JW and is a two faced cock sucking prick who gets sick with COVID every other month because he and his wife are both vaccinated and boosted. Basically abandoned my parents house when they got sick with COVID and ended up in a nursing home and told everyone he was glad they were going to die. He’s a pillar in the Kingdom Hall but hides the fact he used to do drugs and fuck underage girls behind his wife’s back and nearly beat her to death but she was a fucking retard and stuck with him now he’s a bitter old fuck who brags about material things and money while everyone in his congregation thinks he walks on water. I’m just waiting for that fuck to die so I can show up at the funeral with all the people he wronged so his church can see what a fucking hypocrite he is. Pic rel is what he sent my brother when my parents were in the hospital. He even turned his kids against them with lies. If it were legal to kill a sibling I’d have Cain and Abled his ass years ago and saved the family a ton of heartache.
>>524051539just fyi the text you blacked out is still easily legible
>>524051539mikie and taylor
>>524051618lol I don’t give a fuck lol fuck that asshole.
>>524051611Same as well he can burn in hell. Oh wait JWs don’t believe in hell.
>>524050511Disgusting that American bullshit is getting a foothold in your country. You need to tell them they're falling for a jewish trick to destroy your country's religious tradition and identity
>>524051772>>524051209
>>524051539Sorry fixed the image. Not that it matters but it shows what a hypocrite JWs are.
>>524051832Oh. Yeah another example of America poisoning people's minds, not much you can do there. Let that be a lesson to you to stay away from anything American. They're all stupid as hell, especially the ones on this site.
>>524049732yup my dad and his brothers grew up jw, oldest one still is and my grandma. fucked all of them up. controlled by evil people but thankfully dying afaik
>>524049575Can they be reformed from a cult?
I advice to not join any schizo cults and do not get invested in their ramblings and "books".Stay in objective reality with Math for dummies.It is all there is.
"You shall know them by their fruits".JW's fruits always seem to be poisonous.
>>524049575https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFWizN3QoPg
>>524052330>Math>all there isWho is gonna tell him?------>Apart from the most elementary mathematics, like arithmetic or high school algebra, the symbols, formulas and words of mathematics have no meaning at all. The entire structure of pure mathematics is a monstrous swindle, simply a game, a prank. You may well ask, "are there no renegades to reveal the truth?" Yes, of course. But the facts are so incredible that no one takes them seriously. So the secret is in no danger.Ted Kaczynski said this many years ago now,and it is 100% true.It's one of those things you try to explain to normal people,and they can't comprehend how it could be true,so they think you are crazy.This is, of course, no real secret at all amongst people who study mathematics.Calculus was invented with concepts like infinitely small numbers,which as this thread shows,people still believe in what Bishop Berkley called the "ghosts of departed quantities."It would take a very, very long time for calculus to be reinventedin a way that most people would agree made sense.We still use artifacts from that era of mathematics though,treating dy/dx as if it signified anything meaningful at all.Most mathematical proofs are completely fraudulent.The "proof" of Fermat's Last Theorem,is based on nothing but the same sort of mathematical gibberish,used to say that the sum of the natural numbersis equal to -1/12.It relies on demonstrably false arguments over infinite terms,something which Cauchy called the "generality of algebra."Just like calculus had to be reinvented because it relied on illogical concepts,mathematicians routinely re-invent areas of mathematics,and pass them off as new research and mathematical techniques.What we today learn as vector calculus,was literally stolen from the quaternions of Hamilton,by two mathematicians named Gibbs and Heavyside.Literally the exact same stuff.The symbols also keep changing throughout time.See Cajori's work.
>>524052569It would be more advisablefor people to stay away from studyinghigher mathematics period.It is all a fraud.The very foundations of Scientismare based on nothing but elaborate fraudsinvented by peoplewho use intentionally incomprehensible nonsenseto swindle money out of the public,and pass it off as "education."A mathematicianis an academic conman.They all know they are by the timethey get to graduate school.Some of them eventually tell the truth,like good old Kaczynski.Some of them spiritually die inside,like Grothendieck.Some of them go insane,like Gödel,who thought everyone was trying to poison him,for being such a lying fraud.But most of them,just go on teaching.Teaching the same boring lessons,until they retire or die.Flapping their stupid gumson the government payrollabout ridiculous nonsense,until they die.
>>524049575They are a cult, if you tell them you are orthodox/catholic they go away. Some other people also like to harass them.
>>524052569>>524052627>Ted Kaczynski>Local fart sniffer who lived in the woods said math is badYeah he thought he was to cool for school and going to work. fuckin retard.
>>524052691Why does telling them that scare them off? I've only ever got one visit and my dog scared them off by completely freaking out, but I'd like to know more techniques.
>>524049575>call themselves Jehovah's witnesses>don't believe in mysticism>therefore none of them have witnessed Jehovah
>>524050511so its a tribe of White people helping each other jew the jews. Damn
>>524052806It's because one of their major beliefs is to deny the holy trinity. They disregard you immediately.
The Russian government persecutes the JWs,and I am convinced they know the JWsare controlled by the ZOG.The local JW person that posts here,openly despises other Christians.They take the stupid lines they do,not because of anything the Bible says,but just to piss off Christians.The Kingdom Halls I have been into,are full of race-mixers and fat people.They have no fear of the Lord whatsoever.They think we live in the last days,but can't tell you who the Beast is.If Satan casts out Satan,he is divided against himself;how, then, will his kingdom stand?They preach the enemies of "America"are working for Satan,and recruit the most viciously hostile people against their governments abroad,but tell "Americas" to be good little ZOGlings.When they changed their line on Romans 13 decades ago,all the Russians JWs they recruited,immediately split from them.
>>524052627You spell the word "religion" quite uniquely.
>>524053229>ima liberal faggotYour priests are men in lab coats,bilking the public for billions of dollars a year,to produce machines that do nothing at all.The Temple you worship atis CERN.Read picrel,and leave your false religion,stupid liberal faggot.
>>524051290>small cult :l>big cult :o
>>524051974kek, ok, chinko
Don't waste your time. I gave it a go with these people a decade ago and it was just. Lol.The most telling thing for me was how they always referred to the "Organization" with a capital "O" and God interchangeably, as though they were one and the same, when the "Organization" is a bunch of dudes in Brooklyn, NY deciding what to put in the following week's literature. Which they read through during "services" more thoroughly than actual Scripture. >>524049732This>>524049878>Paul says don't eat blood? Well, they think that means you can't have a blood transfusion.Yep. A JW who recruited me in 2014 was all about this. Bloodless surgery and all that. Anyway, he died in 2016 at 48 years old.>>524051427And when I went to pay my condolences, none of his family members spoke to me since I'd left the outfit.>>524051772You are Indian playing D&C, shut the fuck up, it's obvious.>>524052701>hides flag
>>524053316I've no need for religion of any kind, you flaccid appendage. It is more appropriate for those who lack the belief in themselves. The need to put faith in the external is a sign of weakness.
>>524049732>They're a cult and use social isolation (shunning) as a punishment tactic. If you have standards, you exclude those that agreed to them but then refuse to abide by them.>You're told not to have any associations with "worldly" (non-JW) people. So the cult becomes the sole form of social support.I have plenty of associations with non-witnesses. I word with hundreds.>They also make their members do a certain number of hours of cult recruitment every week. And they have to report their hours.Neven had to do any such thing. Now no hours are reported by most.>So basically, OP, if they don't knock on your door, they lose their friends and family.You don't have to go door knowing at all. Just share your faith as Jesus commanded.
>>524053503>>524053741Lol am I Indian or Chinese? Or is America just a cancer on the planet?
>>524054996So, what the fuck is going on in Russia?
>>524055132We're banned in Russia due to the Orthodox Church.
>>524053207thats pretty funny
>>524055375How does the Orthodox church have way over the Russian government. And how are Jehovah's witnesses considered a threat? Is this really only about church attendance? It can't just be belief systems. What does the church and the Russian government get out of making Jehovah's witnesses illegal?I don't get it.Do they consider this to be part of THE GREAT TRIBULATION?
Bump.
Bomp.
Blomp.
>>524049575misguided idiots. Think that their version of christianity is the correct one, same as every other false church.If you want to make sure they never bother you again, ask them why their organization has a history of falsely predicting the end of the world (1874, 1878, 1881, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1941, and 1975.)And when they respond with their version of "We were going by what the science said at the time"Your duty as a human being is to ask them if they believe that those excuses will be acceptable before God. To seal the nail on their coffin, cite Deuteronomy 18:21-22 and chase them away with stones.
>>524055947Power. Have you met an Orthodox priest? They hate all other religions and will use any secular means to destroy them.>Russian Orthodox: 57-62% (mostly cultural, with only 5-10% regularly practicing).>Non-religious/Atheist: 21-32% (higher among urban youth, up to 42% in 18-24 age group).
>>524049575Just tell them something like hey, shouldn't you be denying a dying child a blood transfusion somewhere.
>>524049575They're a cult who preys on vulnerable lonely people, who are most often found at home.
>>524049575It's a false doctrine, avoid.
>>524055947
>>524049575Think about the 144k!
>>524049732My sister-in-law was a JW. After she died I found boxes and boxes of their books and such. They don't really track people with that and can't anyway.The shunning is exaggerated, it's mostly aimed at school kids, not letting them celebrate birthdays, Christmas, etc.Where they get psycho and creepy is when a member is dying. They'll send a security guard type figure to make sure surgeries do not include blood transfusions. He stays until the procedure is over.There is also zero spiritual counseling for the dying, just bullshit about their second system whatever it is. The religion is trash.
>>524056803So like worse than Mormons but not as bad scientologists?
Jew here, ask me anything
>>524056888I asked another jew for a latke recipe last night and didn't get an answer. What say you? What delicious potato pancake recipes do you have to offer. I'm here using the boxed Manischewitz stuff. AID ME, SON OF DAVID.
>>524056803Wait, what? How do I get a job as a security gaurd in the palative care ward?
>>524057057The boxed premade stuff is about as legit as it gets desu
>>524051539Don't let the hatred get to you, anon. My SIL was in that group and I think she was legit demon possessed. She did some really horrible things I won't go into. Some of the other church members seemed nice if weird but others were extremely materialistic. it is definitely NOT a religion that encourages or helps people become better individuals. But you're better than that, so try to detach yourself from it as much as possible.At least you don't have to deal with him at Christmas?
>>524057057Fuck a mix. Shred potatoes, drain with cheese cloth. Mix two cups of potatoes with the desired mix of flour, salt, egg, and diced onion. Fry in oil, press to patty. Flip every few minutes until both sides are golden brown. Simple as. Real jewish moms use a dash of confectioners sugar (substitute ginger for orthodox) right on top before dunking in oil
>>524057118I'll take your word for it. For now.
>>524052569Thanks, I always thought mathematics was intellectual masturbation.
>>524057300THANK YOU
>>524052627Everyone knows Isaac Newton invented modern calculus (independently of some other guy)Fewer know he was Big on astrology and alchemy Fewer still know he is basically the Father of modern British banking.
>>524054996This person was/is a fringe witness at best. They stopped reporting hours because they were losing so many members post internet. Those of us who grew up in it until the early 2000s had peak Jesus Camp energy being funneled into us 24/7. My mother and father still refuse to have a meaningful relationship with their 6 year old grandson, myself and my brother because we are "worldly" now.
>>524052627About half of all mathematics phds go work for the NSA I thought.
>>524052922>whiteNo.
>>524053741They're weirdly bureaucratic. I'm surprised they don't keep a copy of Roberts Rules alongside their bibles. Or maybe they do, lol.There's some "second system" they bang on about too.
>>524049575JW are a cult like Mormons
>>524056745Ngl, Orthodox Christianity is KINO.
>>524057712It was always a for profit religion ever since Rutherford (a lawyer then Judge) did a hostile takeover of the religion and creates Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society (tm).
>>524057773at least the mormons are a cool cult that transcends religious borders and bleeds into pop-culture.
>>524056877I've never met a scientologist although my mother lost a friend to one. They largely disappeared up here.As for mormons, most atheists I met who grew up in religious households were Mormon. Mormons aren't remotely Christian once I learned what they actually were. Before the Internet I thought they were.
>>524057104Oncology.And I have no idea. She's been dead for years now.
>>524058060Mormons make me laugh, never met one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yKKB26leE0
>>524050007I got a blood transfusion because I was in an accident then I got endocrine diseases and an autoimmune disease and got fat.
>>524051539If they got vaccines then they are shit tier Jehova's Witnesses.
>>524056745I love it when they come out and bless tanks and bombs and shit.
>>524057503Post Internet? 2.5% increase in 2024
>>524052330The Watchtower is a great read, though.
>>524049575No idea, they have a building here that never has cars outside and the window shutters are always closed and no lights are ever on.
>>524058397Yeah, ask them how they count members these days. You'd be surprised. Im still counted as a member because I never officially was kicked out of the religion or sent a letter in renouncing it. You have to witness to 7000 people before statistically one converts. That is why most of their new members are born into it. Including me.If you ghost you are counted.
>>524058324Im not sure the wisdom of taking a random person's blood into your boddy, with all its accociated vaccine antibodies, but not vaccines directly.
>>524058936Did you work at bethel or whatever those places in upper state NY are called now? How do you know this.
>>524058936Youre inctive. Youre not counted in afraid. If you and others were the number would triple.
>>524059048Pretty sure that's not true after getting rid of the reporting requirement (maybe even not before) but hey only 8 billion more people to reach before the Armageddon that is JUST around the corner. Two more weeks
>>524058324The organization pushed people to get vaxxed. They never FORCED anyone (they are extremely careful about that since losing free government money in Norway) but they did make sure to make you feel like you should get it
>>524049878Paul was a typical schizo jew that founded a schizo Jewish sectJW did nothing wrong
>>524059129I wish it as everybody.Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it"
>>524059395Speaking of Bible Verses >>524056243
>>524059250I just toured Wallkill, Ramapo, and Patterson a couple months ago. I was told it was entirely up to the individual. Most got it because of irrational fear, or the desire to circumvent travel restrictions.
their job is to bother people everyone knows this
>>524059040I know this because my brother and I both went to Bethel. We grew up sons of an Elder family and were groomed by our parents to be Bethelites from the time we were born. It was my parents mission for us to become "powerful" people in the religion. Everything we could do to be the "best" witnesses we did. 80 hours a month dedicated to door to door preaching, special pioneering in other countries, yearly bethel trips, etc. Higher education was replaced with getting into Bethel.I left back in 2010, but my brother didn't leave until 2023. Until then I had 0 contact with him.
>>524059395Good one.
>>524059503Yeah, of course they say it's up to the individual and they've been doing that a lot more since Norway took away their right to government money (which they cry about as 'religious persecution!"). They were very clear that 99% of Bethelites got the vax (possibly a lie) and that Jehovah would never let those working in such service of him to have harm come their way. It was heavy handed but yes YOUR CHOICE, because otherwise they might face legal consequences at some point
>>524059540Brutal. I grew up in it too. But my house was schizo-split, half JEHOVAH, half catholic. Was a fucking mess, which includes domestic violence, my father getting arrested, car chases across state lines and ending in police station parking lots, all holidays utterly ruined (pretty much for life, due to all the weird associations). All in all a rather fucked up childhood. I never bought into the DON'T SPEAK TO SO-N-SO CUZ REASONS bullshit, but then I was never 100% in it.Mostly they make me sad. The religion is their drug, it somehow fixes them, and it is their fix.
>>524059588Millions now living will never die! This generation will by no means* pass away*"By no means" in this case means creating a new type of generation - "overlapping", a concept never used before or since and only understood once the prophecy was wrong. How convenient
>>524059540interesting. are you Christian now or just had enough of it all?
>>524051290Protest ICE o algo!
>>524059761>>524059848Yeah the more I speak with them, the more questions I have. Is what it is I guess.
>>524060009As you should, because it's all nonsense that they keep piling onto previous nonsense and only makes sense once you realize they're just desperately trying to keep the wheels spinning on this money and control operation
>>524049575Ask them about "2 witnesses". It is the mechanism they use to hide child rape. All religiin is just a burocracy to hide pedophiles.
>>524060137>2 witnessesWhat?
>>524060765yes, it's a pretty fucked rule in their organization that hides all the pedophilia that exists within its structure.Mind you, those two witnesses have to be Jehovah's Witnesses or they won't take any action. There's a reason why we instituted separation of church and state. And I for the life of me cannot comprehend why libcucks insist trying to bring religion into the matter whenever republicans and other conservatives make choices that contradict biblical teaching.
Threado is deado. Oh wello.
>>524052922>JW's are whiteFucking lmfaooo
>>524061127The important part of this it has allowed witnessed carte blanche for pedophilia (per capital they far outpace the Catholic Church) because a pedo isn't going to snitch on himself and any instance of molestation in theory only has one other witness (the victim) so they can't do anything. Interestingly this does not always apply if someone catches someone doing something else they shouldn't be doing, as you can be sure you'll get counseling from the elders.Not to mention until the recent legal troubles they've been facing around the world they specifically mentioned to keep from reporting pedophilia to the police AND have gone to court to fight to keep their database of pedos (as they keep track of everyone who's been "counseled") out of the hands of various states (Montana in particular)It's an organization that's rotten to the core. Some genuinely nice people in there but absolutely evil org. I could go on forever. They do no charity work, if they do it's using the followers' time and money, never the orgs, and ALWAYS for ONLY other witnesses (unlike most religions which will try to help everyone)
>>524065666Didn't they publish a list of over 10,000, COUNCILED as you say, pesos?
>>524066041Anything they've ever published was forced from their hands by various courts, and I don't believe that happened, no but I could be wrong.You seem to want to believe
>>524066041>>524066318Also not sure why you capitalized COUNCILED, as I am using the verb counseled correctly, and the noun counciled does not fit (nor is it actually even a word, but the meaning can be inferred from council)
>>524049575they ruined my life and tore my family apart when i was a child. if i ever became supreme leader of the US i would ban and deport every single one of these delusional faggots, evil jewish religion
>>524050511JW's have the lowest income and wealth of ANY religion in America. He'd be better off becoming an Episcopalian
>>524068050The Nazis put them in campa
>>524049575they come VERY close to actually following the bible, they are correct in the majority of thingsthis of course causes a lot of seething among most of the people who call themselves christians today (idolaters, fornicators, blasphemers, drunkards, liars, swine eaters, hypocrites etc etc etc etc etc)
>>524068957Do you really think that? I once did too. They have a bunch of superficial window dressing that makes it SEEM like they really follow the Bible but most of their teachings are straight fanfiction, with words like "might" and "perhaps" peppered in there
JW's believe Jews broke their covenant with God. But overall they are nuts.
>>524069958>Do you really think that?no, i know it, it's as obvious as obvious can bemost of their teachings are completely correctthey obviously aren't perfect, no worldly organization is, but compared to almost everyone else that identifies as a christian, they are creme de la cremeit may SEEM they are deluded, but that's a (You) problem, try sobering from sin and you'll see it, too
>>524049732Same in the UK. They all follow some psychos in new york head office. Generally nice enough people, but the cult dynamic is, "as long as you do as we say you'll be saved and live in the new world, if you don't you'll be "of the world" and of Satan, you'll have no friends, your family won't even talk to you". For many will come in Jesus name, but see to it that you are not deceived.
>>524057997There's nothing cool about Mormons. They're a more dorky version of Scientology.
wallstreet journal dot org basically they won't let you read SpEcIAl NeWs unless you buy it directly from them. Europe is so insulated from this phenomenon natively that they act like jehovah witnesses and larp door to door sales
>>524049575A cult (think mormonism tier) started by a mason named Charles Taze Russel - outed as a rapist and pedophile by his own wife and buried under a pyramid. JW's deny the trinity and follow an individual who kept familiar spirits to write his bible. They're a works based religion and they're either victims or a cult. They believe Jesus Christ and Michael are the same person, they believe Jesus came back in the 1800s but he was invisible. All kinds of twisting of scripture... They also believe only 140,000 people can make it to heaven, so I guess they're gambling with their soul in their own words. Pedophilic and satanic freemason cult that guilt trips their victims into thinking they're a branch of Christianity when it's simply an evil distraction. I feel sorry for some of their members. If they knock at your door say, a) You're a Trinitarian.b) You're an ex JW and got kicked out. c) Offer to pray and then open with the trinity.Any of those 3 really freak them out and they'll leave pretty quickly. They've got a quota of doorknocks to do or else they're punished, in some chapters at least.
A silver lining for exjws, I know they sent you mfs to classes on how to speak with the public, how to approach people, how to persuade them to take an interest in being a jw, or the bible, and how to ask the "right questions". Communication is a skill to be levelled up, most of the jws I've met do have great communication skills. You got a good foundation on which to build and learn. Shame about the whole culty thing though lol
>>524071818>masonAnd that's why I stick to Protestantism. These people have magic symbols on their underwear like masons, have rankings like masons, treat outsiders like peasants just as masons do, and worship their own handcrafted god like masons do. I consider Mormonism and satanism to be one in the same. Won't touch it.I don't care for Catholics and their veneration of Mary and idol worship, but at least they are christian. Mormons are cleverly clothed satanists.
>>524072030100%. Based anon.
>>524051714I have a theory that a good amount of JWs are horrible, retarded people who joined precisely because of the no hell thing.
>>524070684Lol ah the ever righteous Jehovah's Witness, the only way for anyone to see issues with your theology is to be in love with sin!
>>524049575I quite like talking with them, they've got an interesting angle on Christianity.>started because one guy thought they were deviating too far from scripture>sat down with some others and started going through the Bible>re-interpreted it as they felt right>end result was a true apocalyptic cult that thinks the world is ending soon, there is no Hell it's just non-existence forever for sinners, angels have free will, and Lucifer is the name of the Devil and is on Earth with us right nowFor crazy people, they're extremely polite and open to discussion, I hugely admire them for that.
>>524073720not interested in sarcastic remarksfeel free to take your complaints to god, i don't make the rules
>>524074685No but you have no problem hiding your intentions. You're clearly one of them based on the language you used but you're trying to appear like a truly dispassionate observer. Very deceptive, but I know that's allowed and encouraged in "ministry"
>>524049575I grew up a JW in the 70's and 80's. I was aware of the hypocrisy over their false prediction that 1975 would be 'the end of this system of things'. The word dropped that it was to be characterized as 'a few overzealous brothers' who couldn't go to certain neighborhoods anymore because they would be embarrassed. Please ignore the articles and literal Governing Body members giving public addresses about it at major assemblies. At the time it was common for assemblies, especially the bespoke assembly halls (like the one in Norval, Ontario where we attended) to have rooms where brothers could connect the sound system to tape recorders to capture all that tasty 'spiritual food' so there are many recordings of that GB member saying that, despite it being held at a sports stadium in California.Anyway, grim upbringing. Five hours a week of meetings, plus preparation time. Nope, can't play sports with your friends, too much of a distraction from what's important in life. (filling your head with the 'correct' ideas so when Jesus and pals return to slaughter everyone without those 'correct' ideas, you could survive and build log cabins and pet lions and bears)The craziest shit they (correctly) believe is there are no ghosts, but believe instead that all ghost stories are actually demons pretending to be ghosts of dead relatives. Just as you think they're starting to make sense, they're over the fucking rainbow again.Thankfully, especially since 1975 debacle, they has and continue to have the lowest retention rate of any organized religion, bar none. It's up to over 85% of born-ins leaving as adults now. The Kingdom Halls are filled with young and old women and children too young to leave yet. They are utterly incorrigible.Ask the next JW who knocks what happened to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III. Someone who was 'Annointed' (going to heaven, unlike the plebs) and could pray and get the correct answers on how to 'Shepherd the Flock of God'.
>>524075814Any actual JW posting replies in this thread are counting their time as 'preaching work' that they can claim in their monthly report. Not sure if they still do that, it has been a few decades since I was in, but it wouldn't be beyond the pale for them to do that.
>>524049732better to lose your friends and family than to lose your soul
>>524073939They were one sect that branched off when the "Great Disappointment" happened. Miller predicted the end of the world and all the faithful went up onto their roofs to await the rapture. When it didn't happen, Russell decided to look at the math, combined Revelation with Daniel and discovered the world wouldn't actually end until 1914. That was obviously BS too, so they reinterpreted that over the years to mean that anyone born in 1914 onward wouldn't die until the end of the world happened. Since that's obviously also wrong, they decided to reinterpret that to mean anyone who knew anyone who was born at or before 1914 wouldn't die before the end.
>>524076087It's absolutely what's happening I've heard they'll preach to people on obituaries of their loved ones online and count the hours. While the hard requirement isn't there, the "blood on your hands" messaging still is, though they're cooling down with it.I feel bad for the good people who are part of this org, many are just extremely sanctimonious
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>>524076087lol it has to be. That's immediately what I thought when I saw the namefag JW who posts on here sometimes. "This is like online preaching for him"
>>524076360And the funny thing is they use words from scripture that say this generation shall "by no means" pass away as proof for that generation. That means they believe that God was so incompetent that He said "by no means" about something that actually requires creating an entirely new concept called "overlapping generations" that has never existed before or been used for anything else since. By no means though, according to the Word of God!Or they could admit their interpretation is wrong but you can't do that without intense social consequence
>>524052569>Ted Kaczynski said this many years ago now,Ted was pretty much 100% correct on all his takes, my only gripes with him is that he's 100% materialistic, I wish someone had introduced him to Steiner or Goethe, I doubt it'd change his stances much but it'd be interesting to see how he would interpret their writings.
>>524076592I really get a kick out of their concept of Paradise. I remember when it was just the world would be wiped clean and we'd all live in Heaven on Earth. But apparently it has changed substantially since I was a member (never baptized, so not even technically a member) It became that the survivors would need to clean up all the rubble and bury what the crows didn't consume of the bodies. Then it was that actual JWs (not those who somehow managed to survive also, or the multitude of those resurrected who died before the end and thus paid the price for their sin by dying) would need to preach to the resurrected people, brought back in batches, so they could get the correct doctrine. So do the right thing, have the correct ideas, and then you would survive to keep preaching to resurrected dead people until everyone had the right teachings in their heads. They turned Paradise into Purgatory. LOL
>>524077019i find it sad how devalued Christs sacrifice is in the Watchtower. very far from the total salvation the Bible talks about. Also, its sad how the are taught that lots of the NT isn't actually for them at all, but only for their idea of that the elect are.false prophets systems very often do this kind of thing
>>524075626those are pretty intense false accusations and projections, but i don't hold them against youit's just another (You) problem that you will have to deal with yourself
>>524077019Now apparently you can just repent last minute so there's no reason to even be a JW. They changed their end time theology to leaving time for people to convert after "false religion" is destroyed. I have been in rooms when zoom meetings have been happening but that's the extent of my participation, but married a woman who while not one herself has a lot of JWs in her family and social network. The amount of brainwashing I've seen with these people is off the charts but some will also express their doubts which they can't do for fear of "stumbling", which is also nuts since if they were so certain what they had was the truth they should welcome questions - as others witnessing those questions being adequate answered should only solidify their beliefs further
>>524077486The annual memorial where Jesus is remembered by specifically NOT doing what He said to do. It's pretty spectacular how people can attend that and say "Yep, we just follow the Bible", and then pull out watchtower literature on how you can tie shoestring statements from many different books in extremely tenuous fashion. But Jesus is downplayed in a lot of ways in the JW org
>>524077514Lol how are they possibly projections? I'm not hiding anything, you word your messages to avoid revealing you're associated with the JWs but the language you use gives you away. Sorry for calling you out, maybe just be honest next time
>>524078256it's okay, it would be foolish of me to expect any honest introspection from you, it's just the price of sinbut this conversation can't go any further, at least not in a productive way, so we'll end it right here
>>524077915Yeah, "The Lord's Evening Meal". LOL. Pass the plate of crackers and glass of grape juice to the next person. A brother at either and of the row to pass the 'emblems' around. "Oh look, Brother so-and-so partook! He must be annointed!" Don't ever question them about it, just gossip that "We have a Remnant in our Hall!"The number of 'annointed' was supposed to drop, and it was yet another way to decide how close Armageddon was as they died off one by one. But paradoxically the number began to increase and kept going up until it exceeded the 144,000 number. So they needed to respond and just reiterated that 'thinking you're Remnant' and actually being one is a matter of faith, one can be wrong about it. That was actually in one of the magazines.It's a wild, convoluted religion, to be sure. One of the stranger doctrines is that the cross is a pagan symbol because Jesus was actually nailed to a stake (they translate 'stavros' to mean 'torture stake'). It is entirely reasonable to conclude these people (nice as they are) are the representatives of a Satanic offshoot given they repudiate so much of what constitutes Christianity (The World Empire of False Religion!).One of the worst things about the cult is that it spoils members for any other religion when they leave. The Watchtower Society is good at making observant JWs and atheists.
>>524049575it's an American thing.These protestant dumbfucks love their sects from the synagogue of satan.Shoot these sacks of shit on sight. JWs, but you might shoot every Mutt in general, for a good measure.
>>524078721No answers, hide behind false righteousness as a shield. I will hope you wake up but as it is you're one of the ones who uses this org to feel like a special little snowflake
My dad decided to become a JW a couple of years before I was born. It destroyed his marriage, alienated his siblings and parents and longtime friends, and ruined any chance I would ever have for a normal childhood or a happy adulthood. The JWs are the closest thing to the outer party of 1984 that exists in this world outside of maybe North Korea. It is a screaming nightmare of a "religion" to be born into and I would not wish a JW upbringing on my worst enemy.
>>524077915yeah i went to one of those one time. the way they pass the 'bread' around an nobody takes any.strange stuff.i did eat and drunk though which got some funny looks>>524079089>torture stake.oh yeah i remember that. such a funny little thing they fixate on (ha) to try distinguishing themselves
>>524049732Actual witness here for a year and a half and i have never seen anything resembling what you typed. it's basically like any other denomination, no donation plate and some rules about blood transfusions and holidays. Every person at the temple hall is warm and friendly. Sometimes they are so friendly i wonder if im not good enough myself desu.
>>524079887Idiot.
>>524079887Try saying you're basically like any other denomination to your elders. Maybe one day that'll be ok since it seems like in response to all the court cases they've been fighting around the world they are trying to retreat into being normal Christianity, but you can't be a JW and believe you're just "like, another Christian denomination, man", it's antithetical to the belief system
>>524079767They fixate on small yet ubiquitous things like that in order to make their followers believe they have secret knowledge. It lets them feel like they're in on the secret in a way that's extremely low stakes and makes other people look at them like "why does this matter'. It has the added benefit of prompting the adherent to reinforce their own brainwashing by looking down on "false religion"' every time they see something like a cross (which is obviously pretty often in our society)
>>524080209exactly yeah thats right
>>524051714They believe we are already in hell, not that they do not believe in the concept itself. Not to be confused with the other places mentioned in scripture like Sheol and Gehenna. To any lurkers this is a slander thread created specifically to keep anons from researching Jehovah's Witness's
>>524080384BULLSHIT>t. Former JW
>>524076360Jesus himself expected Judgement Day to be imminent, to see it happen in his lifetime. And that was over 2,000 years ago. Just two more thousand years.
>>524080384Dude anyone who actually researches the witnesses, their history (all the failed prophecies, Beth Sarim, the fact kingdom halls are built with volunteer labor then sold to other religions or banks, the fact governing body members come and go with no explanation, the way they have the "two witness" rule and have gone to bat against world governments in the interest of not turning over information about pedophiles to law enforcement and shunning (the reason you can now say hi to "disfellowshipped ones" again is because Norway said the shunning was a violation of human rights. Watchtower acted like they were fighting persecution but all Norway was doing was taking away state funding which they shouldn't be accepting any way based on their beliefs), the fact they hate the UN yet were secretly affiliated with them, the fact their founder was using pyramidology. It goes on and on and on and on. The fact anyone could do actual research and use actual thinking and come to the conclusion "this is the truth" is asinine. That's why they rely on high control group techniques such as love bombing (which you relayed in your last message, 'everyone is so nice'), and sanction disingenuous behavior if it's in the pursuit of getting people to join the borg
>>524080384>>524080844You're experiencing something else I've noticed with JWs which is a true belief that the world revolves around you when the vast, vast majority of the world knows nothing beyond the door to door and birthday things. I once thought you were just quirky Christians too but now I know far more than I ever wanted to because my wife's JW family will confide in us in ways they never can to their peers because they could face negative consequences for simply vocalizing doubts about the org
>>524060137>>524061127Explain in detail please, there is a mention in scripture of two witness's, is that what you refer to?
> Former JW here> Grew up in the organization> Father was a prominent elder> Left in 2007 when I was ~ 20> Best decision I ever madeI didn't read every comment here, but I did see some posts about the JW "two-witness rule". Many JWs don't actually read the Bible on their own for themselves. Those that do use the absolute abomination that is the New World Translation. Fun fact: Before the JWs split off from the group known as the Bible Students, they used the King James Bible. This was taught to me growing up. What I was not taught, however, is that they actually CROSSED OUT verses in the KJV that did not agree with their theology. I didn't learn this until a few years ago. Just how much of an abomination is the NWT? Compare John 1:1 in the KJV vs the NWT:KJV -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."NWT -- " In the beginning was the Word,a and the Word was with God,b and the Word was a god."JWs do not believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. They believe that He is a created being not much different from any other angel.Anyways, back to the two-witness rule. Here are the verses that completely destroy it:Deuteronomy 22:25-27 -- "25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: 26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: 27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her."
>>524049575I'm late. AMA
>>524049732>>524051427>>524052008>>524083043That's because JW actually ENFORCE the Biblical commandments. We are the only Christian sect to kick people out for willfully practicing degeneracy. It's what's called disfellowshipping. The other religions refuse to enforce the Bible's commandments on degeneracy and corruption because they will lose members and ,thus, lose money. JW don't care about neither membership numbers nor bottom lines. All we care about is upholding God's commandments, even at man's disapproval. That's why other religions hate us because we make them look bad by not kicking out fornicators, liars, homosexuals, women-priest, etc.When a member is discovered to be WILLFULLY sinning they are asked to come to a meeting with the religious authorities, in our case, Elders and Overseers. They require the perp to explain themselves and their behavior. We are not draconion. We are flexible and understanding. If it is a sin of weakness like alcohol addiction or looking at another woman it is forgiven. If this is a party animal and willfully chuggs, passes out, bangs random whores, they are disciplined and told to stop. If they refuse they are told they can continue their behavior outside the community. Their name is mentioned on stage during our Ministerial School and told they are no longer JW. Everyone shuns them and treats them like they no longer exist.CONTINUED
>>524049732>>524083244>(Titus 3:10, 11) As for a man that promotes a sect, reject him after a first and a second admonition; 11 knowing that such a man has been turned out of the way and is sinning, he being self-condemned.>(Romans 16:17) Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them.>(2 Thessalonians 3:6) Now we are giving YOU orders, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the tradition YOU received from us.>(2 Thessalonians 3:14) But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed.>(2 John 10) If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him.>(1 Corinthians 5:11) But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.>(Matthew 18:15-17) “Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 ... take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. 17 ..., let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.The other Jews generally avoided voluntary association with tax collectors and classified them with persons known to be sinners, including harlots. (Mt 9:11; 11:19; 21:32; Mr 2:15; Lu 5:30; 7:34) Hence, to treat a “brother” who proved to be an unrepentant wrongdoer like “a tax collector” meant having no voluntary association with him.—Mt 18:15-17.
>>524083244>We are the only Christian sect to kick people out for willfully practicing degeneracy.Yeah, that's the Christian way, alright. Forget about the communion of man and forgiveness, just kick their ass out. The fact that your cult is facing these kinds of problem speaks of incompetence and failing in spirit led guidance in the first place.
>>524049575>to tell me life could be betterthey tried this with me, tooi'm always curious to see exactly what kind of scam is being pulled, so that's why i let them talk to me at alli told them>things are going pretty great right nowyou know what a real community might say in response?>well then if you ever want a place to meet others and celebrate that and maybe help others to reach such a place, then our door is openi would actually be a bit convinced evenbut guess what they responded with?>well what if we told you life can get EVEN BETTER!fucking hell that is such a slimy responsethey act and operate like casino sharks baiting boomers into pissing away money on slot machines
>>524071818>>524051121An EXJW actually wrote letter to the Free Masons and they wrote to this person twice admitting that Charles T Russell was not a Mason ever. In fact, their website has a section dedicated to famous people in history who were Masons and people MISTAKEN for Masons. Guess who's on the MISTAKEN list.Masons are open about Joseph Smith being a Mason why would they hide CTR's membership?The Mason's have already admitted that Jehovah's Witnesses and their founder were never Mason's at all.>http://www.masonicinfo.com/famousnon.htmThey didn't even like him because he would speak out and write against them and their organization.
>>524049878>It's a form of Christianity that denies the divinity of ChristWe don't deny Jesus being divinity. We just deny Jesus being Jehovah God himself. Jesus is a god(John 1:1), the only-begotten god(John 1:18), and a mighty god(Isaiah 9:5). Jesus is a god like the angels, Satan, demons are in heaven. On earth he is a god like Moses and the judges.(Psalm 82:1-7; Psalm 82:6; John 10:35; John 10:34-38)Jesus is a unique son. He is God's ONLY-BEGOTTEN. What that means is that before Jesus came from heaven he was God's first creation ever. Then after Jesus was created, he used Jesus to make everything else. Jesus also calls himself "the only-begotten god" because he was originally a spirit being.>(John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son,>(John 1:18) No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him.>Colossians 1:15 - He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation>Revelations 3:14 - “... These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,Jesus is also God's firstborn. Not just his firstborn but also his very first creation. The only pagan belief is the Trinity that teaches Jesus is his own father. Anyone that believes that is not Christian.
>>524083244>That's because JW actually ENFORCE the Biblical commandments.Where in God's Word does it provide for members of the congregation to be judged by a secret book that only elders are allowed to read (pic related) based on rules to which they are not privy beforehand? Where in the setting up of the Christian church in the first century (as documented in the New Testament) was provision made for a tribunal to secretly adjudicate allegations of sin and summarily disfellowship congregation members?Here are some relevant verses from God's Word:Matthew 18:15-17 -- "15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."Note that this is dealing with someone who has trespassed against an individual personally. Additionally, bringing the matter before the whole congregation would mean that the entire congregation, INCLUDING WOMEN, would be privy to the details of the accusations. This is not how JWs do things. I'm old enough to remember when the announcement was either "So-and-so has been disfellowshipped" or "So-and-so is disassociated". The former was when someone was kicked out, while the latter is when they left the organization. When I left, the announcement was, "So-and-so is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." The congregation has no idea why. Also, being treated as a heather or publican does not mean shunning, as Jesus Himself ate and conversed with heathens and publicans.
>>524083892here's a question for you and other christian sectswhy do you guys type and talk like schizos?why not just be normal and make normal and concise arguments?if every thought out of you has to be tied back to a book, you're not even humans, you're just a hivemind operating on one instruction manualanyone who is an actual human and enjoys being alive will be instinctually repusled by a parastic hivemind trying to take away their humanitywhich is evidencd by the fact that you type, talk, and post like a fucking schizophrenic robot
>>524083395It's biblical. >>524083293 The reason why we are known for it is because we are the only ones that use and enforce the Bible. The other sects refuse to practice excommunication because of how unpopular it is to non-believers and outsiders. The idea of holding someone accountable for their actions and punishing them is extremely unpopular. The other sects would lose members if they practiced the Bible. JW don't care about membership, numbers and money.
>>524058170Mormonism at the top level is basically Freemasonry. Most of their rituals originate from Freemason rituals. That's why the central belief of mormonism is ascending to Godhood of your own universe. It's Polytheism.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGozOw4m4aIThe glowie 3 letter agencies recruit from Mormons.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRHE8C05Qlo
>>524084097>why do you guys type and talk like schizos?Elaborate >why not just be normal and make normal and concise arguments?Go to the archives and look at my past posts for the last 10 years. >if every thought out of you has to be tied back to a book,What book?
I did ctrl + c and I saw that a main point wasnt mentioned: that they are not allowed to go into politics, JWs believe that all government are controlled by satan and the governing body tells the story that the UN will unifiy the world and ban all religions but conveniently the JWs will be the only ones brave enough to stand up and be persecuted and thats where god will bring armageddon to destroy the unbelievers.Unitl that happens JWs are told no be the most neutral politically they can and not changing things about the larger society they are told to avoid, such as not voting, not running for any power positions or not going to the military, they also dont celebrate almost any holiday or tradition to the point they dont even sing national anthems, they cannot show any nationalistic or patriotic sentiments and are thus rootless in almost any way besides their global denomination of alike rootless individuals, they are just not useful politically since they are so deep in their practices of avoiding outsiders unless is for conversion work that they will never join a nationalist movement, they also have low birth rates because they are told since the early 1900s that the end is near and failed to predict the end in 1975 that they are not having many kids because they think the system will collapse soon so its pointless to find a partner and have babies, seriously they are the most cucked religious sect that the US has ever inventedalso the governing body itself tells them to not debate their religion online, if they are real believers the must follow because otherwise you are disobeying divine-inspired authorityhttps://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1hvnltp/reminder_for_current_jehovahs_witnesses_visiting/
>>524084059You forgot these verses >>524083293
>>524084122> JWs constantly talk about numbers in their governing body updates > Constantly amassing money and real estate> Somehow they don't care about these things
>>524084297I meant ctrl + F
>>524084297Yes they can't get involved with anything else because they might find camaraderie outside the org and that would be horrific because:1. They might be exposed to other ideas (I guess they're too stupid to recognize the truth so that would be dangerous!)2. Having connections outside the org would make it easier to leave when eventually seeing that it's all bs peddled by some ever changing number of guys in NY
>>524084297When Jesus spoke to a politician this is what he said:>(John 18:36) ...“My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”This is Jesus and God's attitude towards his followers living in the world back then and today.>(John 17:16) They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.>(John 15:19) If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU.>(James 4:4) Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.>(1 John 2:15) Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him;>(Romans 12:2) And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.So you are not supposed to be involved with this world's affair at all. Here's why:CONTINUED
>>524084265>Youwant>Meto>Elaborateon>whyi>thinkyou>postfunny?and, gee, i wonder what book? whatever you keep citing in every single post over and over?>JOHN THREE SIXTEEN>JOHN ONE EIGHTEEN>COLOSSIANS ONE FIFTEEN>REVELATIONS THREE FOURTEEN>BEEP BOOPlmao nigger get real
>>524084297>>524084547So you are not supposed to be involved with this world's affair at all. Here's why:>1 John 5:19 - 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.>Ephesians 2:2 - , , 2 in which YOU at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.>John 16:10,11 - 10 then concerning righteousness, because I am going to the Father and YOU will behold me no longer; 11 then concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.>John 14:29, 30 - 29 So now I have told YOU before it occurs, in order that, when it does occur, YOU may believe. 30 I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me,>John 12:30, 31 - ” 30 In answer Jesus said: “This voice has occurred, not for my sake, but for YOUR sakes. 31 Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.>Luke 4:5-7 - 5 So he brought him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time; 6 and the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it. 7 You, therefore, if you do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.”>(2 Corinthians 4:4) among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.The devil is the true ruler of the entire world. Not God and not Jesus. All politicians, parties, regimes, corporations, and religions answer to him. You are not supposed to try to change the world. That would make you enemies with God and allies with Satan.
>>524049575why you advertising for them if you hate them?
>>524084547>BEEP BOOP>POST CONTENTS RECEIVED>SCANNING INTERNAL DOCUMENTATION FOR ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE>AMALGAMATING CITATIONS>PROCESSING>CITATION SET LOCATED>JOHN EIGHTEEN THIRTY SIX>JOHN SEVENTEEN SIXTEEN>JOHN FIFTEEN NINETEEN>JAMES FOUR FOUR>ONE JOHN TWO FIFTEEN>ROMANS TWELVE TWOahahahahha>>524084681>BEEP BOOP>HUMAN NOT CONVINCED>ACQUISITION OF MORE CITATIONS IMMINENT>*dialup noises*>CITATIONS ACQUIRED>ONE JOHN FIVE NINETEEN>EPHESIANS TWO TWO TWO TWO TWO... ERROR>JOHN SIXTEEN TEN>JOHN FOURTEEN TWENTY NINE>JOHN TWELVE THIRTY>LUKE FOUR FIVE>TWO CORINTHIANS FOUR FOUR>OUTPUT COMPLETE>POSTINGit's so fucking funnyJUST TALK NORMAL, FAGGOT
>>524084602>and, gee, i wonder what book? whatever you keep citing in every single post over and over?>>JOHN THREE SIXTEEN>>JOHN ONE EIGHTEEN>>COLOSSIANS ONE FIFTEEN>>REVELATIONS THREE FOURTEEN>>BEEP BOOPProverbs 3:5,6 - Trust in Jehovah with all your heart and do not lean upon your own understanding. 6 In all your ways take notice of him, and he himself will make your paths straight.Because we speak on behalf of God. We want you to know that our ideas and opinions are really his. Not ours.
>>524084297>JWs believe that all government are controlled by satanThis part is actually true.Luke 4:5-7 -- "5 Then the devil led Him up to a high place and showed Him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 “I will give You authority over all these kingdoms and all their glory,” he said. “For it has been relinquished to me, and I can give it to anyone I wish. 7 So if You worship me, it will all be Yours.”Ephesians 2:2 -- "in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience."2 Corinthians 4:4 -- "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."Revelation 16:13-14 -- "13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.">>524084297>Unitl that happens JWs are told no be the most neutral politicallyThen why did the Watchtower organization have, until recently, an active membership in the U.N.? (link related)https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world
>>524084795He's trying to help me get my hours in
>>524084297>I did ctrl + c and I saw that a main point wasnt mentioned: that they are not allowed to go into politics, JWs believe that all government are controlled by satan and the governing body tells the story that the UN will unifiy the world and ban all religions but conveniently the JWs will be the only ones brave enough to stand up and be persecuted and thats where god will bring armageddon to destroy the unbelievers.Sounds based and I agree with their sentiment on governments being controlled by satan.Unfortunately they encouraged their members to get vaccinated against covid. They gave the coof vaccines god's approval or some shit like that. Every single JW that knocked on my door was wearing a cuck mask up until last year.Anyways JW is just a cult run by and for retards with some good ideas. It's better than mormonism but don't expect spiritual salvation by joining them.
>>524084834>Not ourslike i said, you're not even human anymoreyour golem programming is complete>don't try to change the world GOY, that's our job!you think anyone is really going to fall for that shit?well, anyone significant?that's why your whole retard golem cult is the poorest nigger cult in the world
>>524084892What are your thoughts on the covid vaccine? Did you take it?
Something else that should be noted about secret instructions that only JW elders can see. Until very recently, the standard operating procedure was to notify the police immediately if there was vandalism or damage to Watchtower property. However, if the elders became aware of an accusation of child sexual abuse, they were to first call the local branch office's service desk, who would then tell them if they needed to report it to police or not based on the local law. Priorities.
>>524084876>until recently,damage control to make them seem valid in the eyes of potential new cult membersthey pray on mentally ill as easy targetsbesides being caught in the act of their 'holy work' in front of courts many a time there are americans who had intimate dealings with these imbeciles spoke about them in interviews+ all evil they do they cover up with 'i dindu, you dindu it was the devil that made you do so - dont worry about it, you are chosen and special'all of these cults that were created in burgerlands and anglosphere are working for the ones they pretend to opposethis is one of their promotion threads - happens from time to time, search archives
>>524079965I forgive you, you will into space one day!>>524080086So walk up to good men who have no quarrel with me and deliberately cause strife between my brothers? all the denominations are brothers and sisters of Christ.You shouldn't read talmud(to pre empt you, the fanfiction you stapled to the torah doesn't make it the Bible)
>>524084908Lol! You think we are trying to "save" the world and prevent you from doing that yourself?>>524085378Personally, I don't like it nor agree with it but I understand why JW didn't go full red-pill "It's just the flu, bro!" They would be accused by all the NPCs of killing people, being selfish, being irresponsible, etc. They would also get the attention of China, Israel, the Democrats, Bill Gates, the pharmaceutical industry and the Alphabets. They would destroy us for trying to expose them. I was disappointed with their vaccine decision as well.
>>524084297>JWs believe that all government are controlled by satan and the governing body tells the story that the UN will unifiy the worldWait until this JW finds out that JWs had a paid UN membership for years until they were exposed. Then they made up a lie that they paid the UN to have access to their library, which was also a lie, because that's free to access.
>>524084876>Then why did the Watchtower organization have, until recently, an active membership in the U.N.? (link related)JW were registered as a non-governmental organization for access to their library. Before the internet, you had to track down information the old fashion way. Buy a bunch of books and go down to your local library. JW had a library card to the UNs archives. It's how they gathered information for their publications back then.
>>524080844>>524081258lurkers pay attention to the overreaction of a simple statement of personal experience that contradicts the narrative. Think back to all the other shills you have seen(shareblue,ctr,etc) and how they attacked targets. Decide for yourself who has an agenda and who has empathy for their brothers and sisters in Christ.
>>524082860You didn't include the * or "was divine"part. Did you happen to forget?
>>524086648Ironically enough Watchtower and Awake! toned down their criticisms of the UN during this time. Total coincidence I'm sure. And when WTBTS' relationship with the UN became known they immediately ended it. The act of an innocent man, no doubt.
>>524086624See>>524086648Right on queue with the same liehttps://archive.is/f6sGo
>>524086409>Personally, I don't like it nor agree with it but I understand why JW didn't go full red-pill "It's just the flu, bro!" They would be accused by all the NPCs of killing people, being selfish, being irresponsible, etc. They would also get the attention of China, Israel, the Democrats, Bill Gates, the pharmaceutical industry and the Alphabets. They would destroy us for trying to expose them. I was disappointed with their vaccine decision as well.That's cowardice. Everyone on this site is probably on a hundred lists right now. If the false world order was about to end, why bow to tyranny?Did you take the vaccine?
>>524049575Who cares mate. I'd rather have someone try and talk with me about their deepest held beliefs instead of the fucking weather or footy
>>524086648Why would you need the UN's archives? You could have just used the reference libraries of a university. If you need a book just ask one of your college kids members for their library cards or to photocopy some pages of a book.What specific books that were necessary for the functioning of JW were at the UN's archives but could not be found in the cumulative archives of every other library on the planet? If it was just slightly more convenient to use the UN archive is that not a betrayal of your principles?
>>524087119>That's cowardice.Unfortunately you are right. You probably remember at the beginning of the pandemic how pastors and priests who criticized the pandemic COINCIDENTALLY died of Covid afterwards. They ran away like Jonah and the Apostles. >Everyone on this site is probably on a hundred lists right now.Yup>If the false world order was about to end, why bow to tyranny?They probably ran away like Jonah and the Apostles out of fear and human weakness. They were probably blackmailed like those other pastors who coincidentally died of Covid when they resisted. >Did you take the vaccine?No, no Jew Juice for me.
Grew up JW and im on my way out now. The religion has gotten dumbed down a lot in the last few years as growth in the west has stalled and they can only recruit people from Africa or the Phillipines. The doctrines have also been changed more times than anyone can track so its just a jumbled mess that no one really understands anymore.My biggest issue with it that it discourages medium to long term goal setting. Why get in shape if you'll have a new body in paradise, why have stable employment when this system will be destroyed soon, why improve yourself if you'll have forever in paradise. This line of thinking creates very low quality people.
>>524086351Acknowledging it would cause strife means you know they would be unhappy with the assessment because you know it's not true. This is asinine
>>524080384Oh, I HIGHLY recommend people researching Jehovah's Witnesses. HIGHLY. When I left, I didn't think about them for years until my wife and I had three kids. I started to think about the 'bloodguilt' concept. Was I dooming my family to be destroyed? I mean, I left because it was mind-numbingly boring and there was no way I was going to tolerate another minute of it once I left home.What I found online (this was 1995 FFS) confirmed that I had not made a bad decision. Subsequent research was even more damning. There really isn't much positive online about them at all, given they are rather insular, warn members to stay offline as much as possible, and not to engage in doctrinal debates with anyone on the internet. So the field is clear for the apostates (like me) to discuss openly and unfettered to anyone who cares to see it.What happened to cause the GB to kick Tony Morris out? Any idea yet? Is he still going to Heaven? Or has his place been taken by the younger members of the 'elite'?
>>524087492>What specific books that were necessary for the functioning of JW were at the UN's archives but could not be found in the cumulative archives of every other library on the planet?The UN has liaisons around the world that report back to headquarters with updated information on the country they are in. The Watchtower magazines were distributed monthly so they needed monthly updated information to publish that month. Back then, a lot of 3rd world countries didn't even have phones or a functioning mail service. A lot of 3rd world countries were as dark as N Korea is now. But the UN was in those countries. So through the UN they had access to information about those countries and current affairs through them. Today, the average Indian or Ethiopian in the slums as internet and smartphones. Now JW in those countries can report back to JW directly. >If it was just slightly more convenient to use the UN archive is that not a betrayal of your principles?No, using the UN archives is no different then using USPS, public roads, police and fire department services. Paul used the local courts and law enforcement to protect himself from the Jews. If it was just slightly more convenient to use the UN archive is that not a betrayal of your principles?
>>524087544>Unfortunately you are right. You probably remember at the beginning of the pandemic how pastors and priests who criticized the pandemic COINCIDENTALLY died of Covid afterwards. They ran away like Jonah and the Apostles.The smart thing to do would be to tell their members to meditate or something and avoid earthly matters, encourage a monastic lifestyle. Tell them to stop proselytizing door to door etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM8ZNtOdfa8Avoid the vaccine and other earthly matters. That way you don't get blamed for being selfish but you don't sanction some fake and gay vaccine invented by 2 Turks over a weekend. JW has very little spiritual depth.
>>524080842That reminds me of another one of their dogmas. That the word 'day' means anything up to a thousand years or more to God, so when Adam and Eve were told they would die the day they ate of the tree (a lie) and the serpent (who JWs maintain was Satan, another lie) told them they wouldn't die, but would become like God knowing good from evil (true), that God was technically not lying since the word 'day' is fluid to God. What a load of horseshit.
>>524087966Why would you need to be concerned about current affairs if your main concern was universal salvation? Why not have your own members report back what was going on in those and create a parallel network that provides unfiltered information you can trust?>No, using the UN archives is no different then using USPS, public roads, police and fire department services. Paul used the local courts and law enforcement to protect himself from the Jews.Paul most likely corrupted Christ's message in service of Rome and also high level Jews in the Roman Empire.
>>524088209>Paul most likely corrupted Christ's message in service of Rome and also high level Jews in the Roman Empire.Fuck Saul, piss on his skull
>>524083043Gird your loins. Spiritual warfare time.
>>524088051>Avoid the vaccine and other earthly matters.We did! A lot of us did. We were told by the Governing Body that vaccines were a conscious choice. That should have ended the debate. However, like the Jews waiting for Moses to come back from Mt Sinai, they freaked out, got desperate and started making stupid decisions. So it was the local members around the world either pushing vaccines and mask or were persecuted for it(like me) for refusing to take it. >That way you don't get blamed for being selfish but you don't sanction some fake and gay vaccine invented by 2 Turks over a weekend. JW has very little spiritual depth.Like Jonah and the Apostles they are just humans with human weaknesses. It doesn't make them any less spiritual than the brave ones who held their ground.
>>524084903But spiritual salvation is what happened though? i've forgiven everyone who has hurt me, i am even trying to be a better person than i was before. Not sure who or where your "experiences" come from but mine has been completely different. It's going to get better.
This thread is hilarious. Watching all the anons who day "oh but anons it wasnt really that bad. They really aren't that psychotic about shunning and everything else". Yes they are! Just because your family couldn't live with the guilt of shunning outside members doesnt mean it wasnt the defacto way of life for decades. There are plenty of witnesses, my entire family being one of them, that are perfectly happy to shut out family who aren't in "the truth" even moreso if they used to be a witness. Im punished more than my grandmother on my dad's side who was never a witness to begin with. Hey guys, guess what? The printing department at Bethel is full of toe sucking faggots!
>>524088209>Why would you need to be concerned about current affairs if your main concern was universal salvation? Why not have your own members report back what was going on in those and create a parallel network that provides unfiltered information you can trust?Because the magazine was published monthly and they needed information from blacked out countries back in the day. It was the UN that broke the genocide of the tutsi and hutu back in 1994 to the rest of the world through a fax machine.
>>524059933Ive had enough of it. Its hard to get behind any religion after you've been told they are all terrible and this is the ONLY "trye" religion. They spend so much time picking other religions apart that your whole faith system collapses after the blindfold is removed.
>>524088728So why didn't you setup a fax machine in Central Africa beforehand?
>>524088806Pic related
>>524087714You are deliberately mischaracterizing why it would cause strife. Take the day off shlomo.
>>524049575they are heretics
>>524087921JW bought Tony Morris a nice house in North Carolina to keep him quiet
I don't even talk to Christians. My retarded wife once talked with them for over 10 minutes, I cringed.
>>524049732Take out the door to door knocking part and you described any christcuck denomination
>>524050414What's the QRD on their culty activities though?I know the kids don't get to celebrate holidays, including their birthdays. But otherwise, you never hear details on what they do that's so culty..You hear plenty about Mormons, Amish, etc. Never anything on JWs.
>>524088918Then explain it
>>524086817> Does not have the ability to acknowledge or refute any of the myriad of points > "A shill!"Most intellectually capable JW
>>524088728https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAQmIqkGB4o
>>524089113Interrupt next sabbath at temple to have a random discussion from pol?no. I know they wouldn't as you mischaracterize they behave like normal people. I'm not sure what wacky "cult" you were in but it clearly had nothing to do with the witness's or the temple i go to. Every Sunday at temple hall it's just like all the other churches i have been to only less pretentious and no donation plate. I have been there over a year and a half and i don't think i have seen so much as a rude remark from any of them. I am grateful i became one and anyone reading this will be grateful too if they become one.Also for any lurkers here looking for the bible for Jehovah's witness's it's called The New World translation.
>>524049732You are an idiot. Jehovahs witnesses are Christians but they just have an autistic interpretation of the wording of the bible. That's literally it. You can ask a Jehovahs witness a question and they will be able to answer it and point to a verse in the bible that backs their answer and belief(see >>524083293 ). They are arguably the only ones that ACTUALLY read the bible outside of Catholics.
>>524089857You can talk to them afterwards, you can talk to them during the study portions, you don't need to interrupt the talk. Disingenuous as you've been the whole thread
>>524089877Na they're definitely a cult mate. Most Christian denominations are cults.
>>524089877They will look it up on JW.org and get cherry picked Bible verses with context that is filled in by them not the surrounding text
>>524089320Source any of those points you intellectually capable person and i will be happy to take a look. inb4 :do my homework 4mePost evidence or retract the claim.
>>524079130Youre infinitely more likely, statistically, to support the nation of Israel than any JW.
>>524089877>outside of Catholics.Kek. The official title of the Pope is Pontifex Maximus. He is literally the head of the antichrist pagan false worship system. Martin Luther and ALL of the early Reformers openly proclaimed this. All occult (i.e., Satanic) roads lead to Rome.
>>524090076Starting easy, Beth Sarim, what happens here will let me know just what kind of conversation we're havinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Sarim
>>524089110>What's the QRD on their culty activities though?I don't get the impression there's something nefarious beyond the usual levels of corruption, greed, and incompetence going on in JW, but perhaps I haven't researched it enough.It's not a freemason run shithouse cult like mormonism.
>>524090034stop shilling for cults mate. You're starting to sound like them. They came to my door in a weekend morning, disturbing my sleep. They read a verse to me during their marketing speech. I stopped them and asked them to read the whol chapter to me for context.The chapter had nothing to do with what they where saying so I asked them how on earth they came to such a nonsense conclusion. They looked at me with blank stares and tried to arrange a follow up. I said na. They're not the only Christ cucks in town.
My best friend as a kid was a JW.Didn't celebrate christmas, birthdays etc. Wouldn't even say Happy birthday to me.Saying "God bless you" (prosit) after someone sneezed was also forbidden.
>>524090349I'm not shilling for cults, did you not read the context of the thread? I'm explaining to this other anon that he doesn't need to interrupt the service to talk to the people at his kingdom hall about how they're totes the same as other Christians, something he knows will cause an issue but is now backtracking and saying the issue is because he'll have to cause a scene in the middle of service to do it
>>524082860The two-person rule is in English common law: I'm pretty sure you can work out why, and are not against it, else Karen can accuse you of something you didn't to.>English common law historically required two witnesses for capital crimes like treason or perjury (e.g., via Magna Carta influences and statutes like 1 Edw. II), mirroring the Mosaic law's caution against solitary testimony, but evolved to accept circumstantial evidence, confessions, and one credible witness for lesser offenses.
>>524090034Fair enough, i didn't give your question much thought as you seem to have an agenda. I could do that, but why am i doing so? to prove some hypothetical to a poster in a thread about to 404? that's unreasonable. I know how they would behave, Calm discussion followed by calm answers? if they disagree, worst is we agree to disagree and they may think bad behind my back, like any other church?I have not seen a single instance of anything terrible posted itt in the temple i go to. I have to question the veracity of everything posted in this thread as it's clearly kosher top to bottom.
>>524090761For someone who follows an organization that downplays Jesus more than almost any other Christianity you sure have a strange aversion to jews.You are either lying or don't know what you even believe in. The Jehovah's witnesses are very clear that all other religions are false religions and are evil and are looking forward to them all being destroyed. That's not how all Christian denominations are
>>524090761My agenda is the truth, actual truth, and this is one area where I'm very well versed in the lies
>>524090890>downplays Jesus
>>524090761Don't listen to him. These fucks abuse children on a yearly basis.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/21/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sexual-abuse
>>524090188Some guy was wrong and wanted a mansion and your looking for a sad little gotcha?Nothing worthy of condemnation or scorn that i saw?Is that the extent of your "evidence" ?
They're one of many cults spawned in the 1800s, which pretends to be Christian but actually promote doctrines which go against even the earliest Church Fathers teachings. It's not too different from Mormonism in that respect.
>>524090034Mate, they're a death cult that sacrifices children. Look into the kids that aren't allowed blood transfusions; those kids are held up a examples of faith in Jehovah at annual conventions.
>>524090890>>524090986"all other religions are false religions and are evil"Show me a source of the Jehovah's witness's saying that.Show evidence for anything you post about them. You don't have any or much if you do, because they are genuinely good people.
>>524049675jehovah is god himself, they are a cult around him and jesus is secondary not an important one from their perspective
>>524091461Anon, the term Paradise Earth comes from Egyptian mythology. Charles Taze Russell was obsessed with Egyptology. By wanting the Earth cleansed of all worldly people, so that Jehovah Witnesses inherit Paradise Earth, makes you part of a death cult. JWs want family members to die before Armageddon so they can be resurrected on Paradise Earth.
>>524049575I rode the school bus with two that were semi reformed and their parents were divorced. I coincidentally met the dad separately. They were kind, attractive, intelligent, and healthy girls. I was always too scared to actually ask them out. I was also friends with a guy who had excommunicated JW parents and was homeschooled. He had schizophrenia and had to get in a lot of legal trouble before he got help because his parents literally didn't believe in mental illness and blamed us, his friends.
>>524091789If you would have successfully seduced one of them they would have rode you to infinity and beyond. Witnesses are extremely sexually repressed and go wild once they are out.
>>524091138Statistically out of around 20 million members you will have criminals and sinners. Is the reader supposed to think this is some huge scandal and not just some perv being a perv?
>>524092199I know. And having been repeatedly abused as a kid i could tell they were. Unfortunately my own abuse is what even now paralyzes me from approaching women although I'm getting better. The older one who was a year younger than me was so hot but I knew if I told her that it would scare her off. Another churchy girl was kind of into me a couple years later but I was so drawn to her friend more into the same things as me I missed she was trying to set us up.
>>524091207Yep you're either acting in bad faith or retarded absolute delusion. Not going to waste my time doing anymore homework for you since it's a huge waste of my time, and you're already determined to waste yours
>>524090034Look everyone a bot has misidentified a shill as the target lol>>524091322^^^^^^^^^^^^Evidence this is being pushed by men in a room on computers with an agenda. As this is 4chan the agenda is likely f@^$ anon over in some way. So why do shills hate Jehovah's witness's so much /pol/?
>>524091784Are you high? Charles Taze Russell can want whatever he want's. Guilt by association is not an argument.
>>524092435Just admit that you played video games and didn't do your homework.
>>524092550So why do shills hate Jehovah's witness's so much /pol/?>(1 Peter 4:4) Because YOU do not continue running with them in this course to the same low sink of debauchery, they are puzzled and go on speaking abusively of YOU.>(John 15:19) If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU.>(John 15:18) If the world hates YOU, YOU know that it has hated me before it hated YOU.>(Matthew 10:22) And YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name; but he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.>(Matthew 24:9) “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.>(2 Timothy 3:12) In fact, all those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted
>>524092961Thank you brother
>>524049675Protestant heretical church. Particularly annoying at that but at least they don't suck kosher and glownigger cock like their lives depend on it like the Mormons or evangelicals do. Not that is saying much.
>>524092550Schizo detected. JWs hurt the Christian movement more than they help. Anyone who leaves the religion is permanently blackpilled on religion.
>>524093707>JWs hurt the Christian movement more than they help. Anyone who leaves the religion is permanently blackpilled on religion.We don't care about the so-called (((Christian))) movement. As far as we are concerned WE ARE the Christian movement.
>>524091138Jehovah’s Witnesses take steps to prevent the problem. For example, in the following list we can see how often the subject is addressed.Some of the articles are study articles, which means they were considered as a congregation study lesson for each of the 100,000+ congregations we have around the world:2018 - Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Scripturally Based Position on Child Protection2015 - (1) We Protect Our Children (video); (2) Jehovah’s Witnesses Educate Parents and Children to Protect Against Sexual Predators2014 - If Your Child Is Abused2007 - (1) A Danger That Concerns Every Parent; (2) How to Protect Your Children; (3) Make Your Family a Safe Haven2005 - Parents, Protect Your Precious Inheritance2002 - Protect Your Children2000 - Children Deserve to Be Wanted and Loved1999 - (1) Children in Crisis (2) The Crisis Is Worldwide (3) Who Will Protect Our Children?1993 - (1) Your Child Is in Danger!; (2) How Can We Protect Our Children?; (3) Prevention in the Home (4) If Your Child Is Abused1991 - (1) The Innocent Victims of Child Abuse; (2) The Secret Wounds of Child Abuse (3) A Time to Heal1985 - (1) Child Molesting—Every Mother’s Nightmare; (2) Child Molesting—‘Who Would Do a Thing Like That?’; (3) Child Molesting—You Can Protect Your Child1983 - Help for the Victims of Incest1981 - Incest—The Hidden CrimeIn spite of what our haters claim, many of these articles make a point to express the need to tell the authorities about the abuse. Along with telling parents, police, doctors, or teachers.Also keep in mind that we publish our articles in hundreds of languages so we are providing information and assistance on how to deal with these issues in places and cultures from all over the world!As a result, Jehovah’s Witnesses are very aware of the seriousness of the problem, how to prevent it, and how to act if it happens.
>>524094108Hey don't tell that to your buddy who was saying earlier you're just like another Christian denomination!
>>524093707People using bot's or shilling is schizo?You are obviously new to the internet. Bot's and shilling, three letters paying people to push fake opinions, etc is a fact of life on the 4chan/internet. The only people who deny that organized "opinion influencing"(shilling) takes place on the internet have something to sale(shill) or don't know better(you).
>>524094569Similar enough i call them brother and sister too!
>>524094108Yeah the rest of Christianity doesnt care about you so when you wake up and realize you've been duped you will have two choices:1. Stay in because its your reality and all you've ever known. Why start over with new worldly friends and potential tilly losr your family?2. Suck it up and actually be a man, separate yourself from the Watchtower society who is ducking you dry just to put old men up in mansions in upstate New York. This is coming from a former Bethelite you ignorant drone.
>>524094604No I just happen to have been a Witness at the top of the food chain. Ive heard stories from the oldest brothers and sisters living in elder care at Bethel. The org is corrupt to its core, a wolf hiding in sheep's clothing. You find out for real once you get into Bethel. You either make excuses for it or its the final redpill.
>>524057057>>524057300this recipe is commonly known as kartoffelpuffer around here. easy onr. readymade mix is for lazy bums. served with apple jam btw, even with diced onions in it. try find some old variety tasty potatos for it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rODf39kwEys
>>524095210Did they tell you the story of the boy who cried wolf too?
We don't care about the GB, We don't care about the Watchtower and Tract Society, We don't care about JW history. All we care about is the Bible. The Bible existed before JW did so why argue over JW? Do you notice how I only post the Bible, Bible history, lingustics, manuscripts, and other translations? Why? Because that's all that matters. You can prove that CTR liked to wear women's dresses for all I care. It's irrelevant. All that matters is the Bible, it's message, and the Kingdom.Jehovah's Witnesses are the only sect that understand the Bible accurately. The rest are counterfeit sects that still believe in unBiblical doctrines. So it doesn't matter what mistakes the organization did in the past or what local drama is happening in the KH across the street. All that matters is the Bible, it's message, history, manuscripts, linguistics, and archeology. Are you going to point out how Sir Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein did bad things? Would there immoral lifestyles disprove their models on physics or quantum mechanics? Or is the personal lives of those people irrelevant and their works is all that matters?
>>524095597The biggest faggots can be found in the laundry room. Thats one of the first things you find out when you get there. People like you make me laugh, what would your elders think about you spending your time on here? Thats the only thing anyone has to know about these "JW" anons. They'd be the first to be reproved if they were ever open about their time spent on /pol/ of all places. Fake Christians by their own standards.
>>524049575>JEW.ORGThat should explain everything you need to know
>>524095210Why haven't you reported this abuse and corruption to the authorities then?
>>524095735Bible translation written by guys who couldn't even read the Greek alphabet in court. Definitely the best one though
>>524095820Whats to report? People have freedom of choice anon. They can choose to believe the lies peddled by the governing body. Its just not how the organization actually operates behind closed doors. Its a business anon. Plain and simple. The newest governing body members further exemplify that.Did you know the org hired a PR firm to help improve its image? And what happened after? Suddenly you have had a number of rules changes to make it easier and more relaxed to be a "witness". Blurring the line between other Christian groups and JWs further.
>>524092550>Charles Taze Russell can want whatever he want's. Guilt by association is not an argument.Anon, the entire belief system of JWs is built upon Russell and Rutherford; one being a snake oil salesman and the other and slimy lawyer who turned into a doomdays cult. Once you're out of the "truth" you can see it for the cult it is. It's not like other Christian organizations at all. They're going to allow birthdays, holidays and other celebrations here soon, because they're trying to appeal to normal Christians as a way to save their plummeting membership.
>>524095805They have already known I'm here for over 10 years now. When Paul went to go preach to Athens the city was fully of idols. There were also a lot of penis statues in honor of Hermes.(Acts 17:16). /pol/ is tame compared to ancient Athens. Yet Paul was commended for walking through all those pornographic idols and preaching to them.
>>524088209Saul outright hunted down and tortured other Christian denominations in the attempt to ensure only his side of the story survived. He is the 13th false apostle that Jesus specifically warned about.
>>524096292>anon compares himself to Paul and /pol/ to AthensLol. Lmao, even
>>524095958You are aware that you can verify that yourself, right?https://www.jw.org/en/library/bible/kingdom-interlinear-greek-translation/books/john/1/https://www.blueletterbible.org/asv/jhn/1/1/t_conc_998001You apostates are just lazy.
>>524096324There were no other denominations of Christians until the second century after all the Apostles died. There were attempts of other denominations but they fizzled out. In the second century is when they began to grow. >>524096416>1 Corinthians 4:16-I urge you, therefore, become imitators of me.>1 Corinthians 11:1Become imitators of me, just as I am of Christ.>Philippians 3:17Unitedly become imitators of me,
>>524097061>>524095958You're disingenuously misdirecting this anon's comment about Russell, the founder of JW, being questioned in court about knowing Greek (which he didn't know and couldn't read in court)and his translation of the Bible. Russell's work set the foundation for the New World Translation Bible that modern JWs use.
>>524097061The very link you posted to blue letter Bible BTFOs your argument that Jesus is "a god" and not God.
>>524097671Engaging in disingenuousness is something they're encouraged to do if it will give a "good witness", so /shrug
JW's have a lot of media out there. i fell into a jw rabbit hole watching you tube videos from former jw's covering some of the official JW media. bizarre stuff
>>524095805Schmeckle, your wasting your time
>>524096150The belief system of Jehovah's witness's is the scripture.
>>524097778That was just a quick sample of how easy it is to verify Biblical translations. With the internet there is no excuse to worry about who translated what Bible because all lexicons are only now. Even the Dead Sea Scrolls are all online http://www.deadseascrolls.org.il/home
>>524096150>the entire belief system of JWs is built upon Russell and Rutherford;It's built on the Bible.
>>524097671Doesn't matter. You can point out the mistakes, wrongs and imperfections of a person all you want. All that matters is the work. It stands on its own merit. Is pointing Sir Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein personal problems going to disprove their models on physics wrong? Or is the work all that matters?
>>524049575They're not wrong about that and many come to that conclusion. But who is ready to do what must be done to make life better?
>>524049732I was only allowed to have friends in the church. If I became friends with someone else they charged me with converting them. If they couldn't be converted I was to turn my back on them. That was problem number one. Didn't Jesus associate with prostitutes and tax collectors?I told me I couldn't train martial arts. I told them that there was no shame, or sin and defending oneself. They denied this. This was problem number two. I asked them, if you consider the kingdom hall, holy ground, why do we not take off our shoes? There was no answer Problem 4, (and this is really the problem with all Christianity) why does God have to sacrifice someone, whether it be himself or his son or an archangel, if God makes the rules? Because it's obvious that God is beholden to a higher power, or wouldn't have to follow those rules. And so on and so forth. I rejected the JWs at 12. I was ostracized from all the friends I was allowed to keep. And I never looked back. They've come to my house over the years, and I treat it as an opportunity, to break them free of the cult.
