>spend 13,000 hours in school>don't know what antecedent and copula areThey really want the masses to know zero grammar.
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>>524366848Because it's not important. Everything getting some gay name only allows autists in that subject to win arguments against you with pedantry. Maybe I don't know what an antecedent is but I know how to use them so who cares? Fuck jargon and the people who use it.
>>524366848Anon they want you to know nothing. If you want an educated population you teach them how to learn and think. If you want an obedient population you teach them facts and figures. The world is a tool to control you.
>>524367261No faggot you just proved you are nigger tier retarded. Everything important in this world is semantic. It is the actual meaningful difference between right and wrong. You are just a shit human being.
>>524367261Lmao, does jargon just mean words you don't know? Wtf
>>524367351Kek comment of the year whether you meant it or not
>>524367261Next up on Anons being a special kind of retarded>hurr durr we don't need to know geometry>it does nothing for me in my life>they should teach us how to shop for a good credit card rate, practical things like that
>>524366848Dumbing down the language is part of the plan for control. They want to get the goycattle so reduced in intellect that eventually they wont even be capable of articulating to one another any dissenting opinions. Its a long term play but part of the playbook for controlling the masses.
>>524367303Nah, the only "people" that love semantics are kikes. You're a pedant.>>524367351No, it means words used in a technical sense when the conversation is full of laymen. They're only used to flaunt your own knowledge of the subject. Unless you're at a conference about that specific thing, use common terms. If you can't break down the technical words you're saying into common parlance, you really don't understand the subject as much as you think you do.
>>524367261Totally anti-intellectual brainlet opinion. No, that's part of the brainwashing, to make you think grammar, logic and rhetoric are boring and unimportant. They are VERY important. They are the tools of thought. You don't know them you don't know how your own thoughts are structured.>but I know how to use themYou probably don't.Tell me which of these two is correct and why:>Are you one of those people who have no skill other than speaking a foreign language?>Are you one of those people who has no skill other than speaking a foreign language?https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137170227https://youtu.be/AOcy6RHw7A8
>>524367534Tell me a single time you've used cosine since you left high school.>Inb4 that's actually trigonometryGo fuck yourself. If you don't work in a field that uses it then no, you don't need to learn all that bullshit. It wastes space in your brain you could give to more valuable knowledge.
>>524367550Kek I'm antisemitic not antisemantic... It's how I know I'm better than you. Because I know what things mean. Literally
i was mostly drunk through english class in hs so my punctuation and grammar is african tier
>>524367598Kek comes into a thread on semantics... Argues geometry is trig. Says he's happy being a fucking moron. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves. The perfect 4chan reply
>>524367567Both could be said and understood by any english speaker. The only people who would have a problem with it are pedantic faggots like yourself. As long as your audience can understand what you're saying, you've done your job. You proved me right by bringing up such a non-issue phrase as if it's life or death. You fell exactly into my stereotype of you.
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>>524367541i hope we simplify right back to speaking true latin
>>524367622>>524367652I'm still here, you stupid nigger. And you're still looking like a petty little bitch. Reddit is that way, faggot. They love grammar nazis.
>>524367303>semanticI don't think that means what you think. If you mean related to language then I agree. But "semantic" has to do with the MEANING of words, which is just one subcategory of language, and antecedent and copula have more to do with syntax than semantics.
>>524367701Kek that's worse... If you left it would seem like funny trolling and not you actually being stupid. Interesting flex faggot
>>524367647doubt (X)i can understand you clearly and dont hate you. not african tier. banished back to /jp/
>>524367737You certainly don't sound like a pedantic little bitch. Keep up the good work. I bet bitches love you.
>>524367598The point isn't using it Anon, the point is learning how to learn something that has a concrete correct answer.I've used the *skill* of learning things as concrete as geometry often.Although, honestly, I do use basic geometry a fair bit, not necessarily the exact numbers but the concept of how angles relate to one another is in general quite useful for doing things. > It wastes space in your brain you could give to more valuable knowledge.Ah yes, so you'd rather be a really hyperfocused specialist, than just generally educated? Interesting. Why?
>>524367737I clearly mean related to language the thing we were talking about holy fuck everyone here is actually fucking stupid. I'm out I hate all of you this place is awful
>>524367657>>524367701Who cares. Plenty of things in this world don't require every single individual to be an expert on. Grammar itself is waisted on the english language.
>>524367778Just remember you're here forever.
>>524367261You're an uneducated retard but you have a point. However the only important thing they don't teach. I wish my retarded father taught me about money and how the simplest hack in life is to take out all the loans you can get your hands on and buy assets. I always thought debt is a liability like a fucking nigger, trusting that inflation is natural etc. I wish I knew it's a fucking Ponzi scheme and you protect yourself by getting all the money you can today but never hold it. This is literally the only thing you need to know to get rich. Fuck you dad
>>524367746I'm not stupid, I just hate people who try to flex their technical knowledge of a subject to a bunch of laymen. You use it to dazzle the retards and give legitimacy to what you say even if you're full of shit. Anyone who knows dick about shit will be able to talk about it in common language anyone could understand. Using words like antecedent are pointless. Everyone who speaks english instinctively knows what they are even if they don't know the correct terms for it. I'm not in college and you're not my professor so stop thinking you can fucking grade me.
>>524366848>copulaWe were taught these as 'linking verbs'.
>>524367261I can tell this anon is a migger. Miggers cope with being retarded by insisting all booklearnin’ is libtarded and useless. It’s sad to see.
>>524366848Formal investigation of the structure of English is not a component of competence in its use.There are significant observations about the language that are only rarely mentioned as curiosities despite being fundamental.Adjective order somehow worms its way into the native speaker's brain, but we were never taught this.In short, you are noting an issue that is built upon issues you will not be able to isolate.Even shorter, niggers.
>>524367351It means exactly what he said. These are the perfect example of jargon. You just attacked some dude pointing out you don't need to know the exact definition of words if you use them correctly for his use of a word you don't seem to know how to use properly. SAD
>>524367859You are stupid actually, I can tell by how mad you get about people being smarter than you. Big ol’ chip on your migger shoulder.
>>524367859No faggot you are actually dumb and can't tell the difference between someone knowledgeable and a slick talker selling you shit... Kek no why!? Because you don't know what they are saying because you don't understand the words you stupid faggot. You are literally proving how fucking dumb you are.
>>524367567>which of these is correctNeither.
>>524367657You're defending those who are dumbing you down. That's a special category of cope among those who hate to self-improve and would rather keep being lazy coomers.
>>524366848Bro you just BTFO the libs!
>>524367824Try to tell that to people that have 100,000 dollars in student loan debt.
>>524367765To point at some gay word like antecedent and claim society is going to hell in a hand basket because people don't know it is the problem. It's specialized knowledge people don't need to know in order to survive. Every conversation you have in mixed company will include people who are clueless on the subject so you can't take liberties in using technical jargon to get your point across. I'm for simplifying language, not being super pedantic about rules adherence.
>>524367923A solid 70% of Americans are like this, maybe more. Jewish brainwashing has mentally negrified the average American golem and convinced them to hold all forms of study and intellectual/spiritual enrichment in contempt. They’re basically just beasts with no internal life beyond contemplating what to consume next.
>>524367824Well anon, much like your retarded father you neglected to consider 1 important element is that to buy assets you need to have money in the first place and if you take out loans you will need your assets to increase faster than the interest on the loans and youre actually just as retarded and short thinking as your daddy
>>524367758not a /jp/droid outside of elin/elona threads i just wanna fuck all the 2hu girls okay
>>524367261I stand by this anon's comment. everyone else is the nigger.
>>524367859Bro you ever read some of those civil war letters? People back then were surprisingly eloquent.Understanding how communication actually works makes communication more effective. If everyone is on the same page linguistically then there is no real misinterpretation. So much shit that happens now is due to miscommunications, because we're not effectively teaching people to communicate.I understand the sentiment of what your objection is - that it just seems like pointless wank - but in my view, this type of post isn't about showing off necessarily (although surely there is such a component), but in my view, it is a call for everyone to just get on the same page, so we can properly share ideas. Why *worry* about semantics? Just learn them. You know?
>>524367923To be fair these things are things people learn in childhood through education. Education isn't self improvement it's handed down through nurturing societies.The dumbing down of the population isn't anything knew. It was illegal for people to teach slaves how to read in colonial America and the antebellum south.
>>524367988Still bragging about not knowing things and acting like those who do shouldn't because you don't think it matters is the most niggardly behavior possible. Some of us would prefer things were better you black fuck.
>>524367988>Don't need it to surviveAnon you don't need to be an aggressive fucktard on the internet either to survive but here you are, gnome sayin?
>>524367988Everyone over the age of 12 should know basic grammar, Idk what to tell you if you think elementary school stuff is obscure knowledge. Sorry you went to a negrified inner city school where they never even taught you about prepositions or conjunctions, but being this retarded and ignorant about your native language is not normal or okay.Tldr read a book nigger and stop hanging out with illiterate niggers
>>524367899Nah, I'm mad that faggots like you like to put on airs and flaunt your knowledge of obscure subjects as if you were better than anyone else. I guarantee there are areas of study where I have more knowledge than you. I don't act like a nigger about it.>>524367913>no why!?Yes why!
I've read The Trivium and I can tell you 95% of that is stuff that any intelligent man should develop intuitively about his native language. You don't need to be able to explain it or even understand it, but it ahould come naturally from a lifetime of listening and absorbing information.Knowing all the nitty gritty details can help you understand foreign languages better and how they ralate to your own. If you want to be a grammar nerd or a lawyer, then have at it. But it's really not essential to the understanding of your native tongue.
>>524366848lolt. linguistpeople are fucking retarded, simple as, bruv. I'd like to see how well they would fare with even an undergraduate, course on syntax or grammars
>>524367824I'm sure your father is very proud of you and filled with happiness knowing his son talks about him like that on the internet.And I am sure your own sons will thank you very much for the "life hack" you taught them about taking out all the loans they possibly can and hoping no force majeure happens to fuck their assets up and thus their life forever.
>>524368021It IS pointless wank, but he's fucking wrong to call it pointless wank.It's pointless wank because English majors are fucking useless cunts that leverage their education to invoke disdain for Shakespeare in their students.Fucking Shakespeare. We'd be better off with said civil war letters.
>>524368074Nigger you just got mentally old yellerd. It's ok we are done here
>>524368021We will never be white countries again so it's pointless. Our language standards have been forever lowered and they're not coming back. Next you'll be advocating for speaking old english.
>>524368074> Basic middle school level English grammar is obscure hyperspecific knowledgeLmao just admit you got a shit nigger-tier education and are resentful of your betters. Stop pretending your retardation and exclusive fluency in ebonics is normal and “down to Earth”.
>>524367859A hundred years ago every third-grader knew what antecedent is. Today it's considered highly technical jargon. That was my point. And then people like you defend those who are dumbing us down. Fight for the right side, not the side pushing you down. Stop pushing yourself down, and start lifting yourself up.
>>524367261>language only has descriptive valuekek, you contemporary utilitarians will be the first to get the rope
>>524368021Read the book public opinion opinion by Walter Lippmann to understand why grammar has been phased out of curriculum and replaced by more technical education.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Opinion_(book)The concept of a Renaissance man has been dead for a long time, replaced by the ideal of a trained specialist.
>>524368157He actually got the same education as everyone else.So, uh...hmm. I guess that makes him look even worse...
>>524367923Simplifying will never be a bad thing. Language is always changing so who cares so much about it? The world has changed, try to keep up.
>>524368085I’m an amateur linguist (physicist by training tho) and reading some undergraduate texts on syntax and formal grammar. I can see how it’d be an effective filter for all the brainlets and midwits who go into linguistics with the idea that being a polyglot would be cool o algo, it’s very similar to math.
>>524368219>who cares if I delete system 32? I've got a brand new ssd to plug in anyways!Nigger nigger nigger, nigger nigger.
>>524368219You don't know what words mean... Its clearly a bad thing you fucking moron
>>524367567>Tell me which of these two is correct and why:um, it's 'which of these two BE correct.'
>>524368219You are so mad, clearly this touched a nerve. You can just google what the words mean and join the club instead of seething about how knowing things is gay and cringe anyway.
>>524368058Gnome I don't but I do know australia has been dns banned from 4chan since the christchurch shooting so anyone using an aussie flag is either a glownigger or VPNigger.
>>524367534correct, his philosophy implies no value in art, music, or essentially anything abstract without causative predicates
>>524368052All I'm saying is if you're talking to your english teacher then by all means use the word antecedent. If you're talking to literally anyone else, you're a faggot for using it.
>>524368285We could have a conversation entirely in the language he speaks about things he knows and he wouldn't understand a single words and not only does he see no problem he's proud of the fact because he once heard brevity was the soul of something
>>524368271No it's 'which of these is to be correct'.
>>524368288> saaar u are fed paki saaaar!You have the immediate aggression and low emotional regulation of a nigger or spic or some other lower non-White species. No wonder you’re borderline illiterate and advocate for everyone speaking in two syllable ebonics.
>>524368067Some of us aren't as fresh out of high school as you faggots are. This shit isn't important in the real world. It's only important in the fake as fuck academic world.
>>524367993>you will need your assets to increase faster than the interest on the loansLiterally any asset you dumb nigger, obviously I don't mean some 100% interest kikery because you're a nigger thief who can't get a decent loanNIGGER>>524367945Student loans are the best. However they're not supposed to be used to fund studies>>524368107My father is a bum who didn't teach me literally anything. Yes I will teach about money to my kids and my nephews to help them get ahead in life. All the things I wrote are correct but obviously it's implied that it's advice to white people with an IQ around 130. Dumb Ivan you're the retard I was when I was a kid but you will stay this way forever because vodka in pregnancy.
>>524368326No. I use the words that best describe the concept I am trying to explain. There is a best word for every scenario. Something is most correct. It's not my fault nobody taught you to understand the things I can say.
>>524368356Migger spotted. Go back to your containment thread. Go on, git, if being surrounded by your cognitive betters upsets you so much.
>>524368157Some of us aren't on a 2 week break from high school. I'm telling you what the real world is like. You can listen or not but trust me, acting like this won't make you a single friend.
>>524368253yea, Logic is a core underpinning of linguistics, as it is in philosophy, math, and physics. I have met quite a few individuals (myself included) who enjoy all of these fields. there's a lot of deep thought involved, to put it mildly. if you are still at a university, you should audit some courses!
>>524368401I'm an old construction worker... But you my friend are fucking stupid and nobody should aspire to that
>>524368376No, if that were true we'd all be speaking mandarin.
>>524367622>He said the thing. You've peaked, congrats.
>>524368443Great point. Thanks for playing
>>524368401There are two ways for language to degrade.One is to not use it.The other is to refuse.Guess which one you are.
>>524368175Giving a word to something you don't need to know to use it correctly is pointless. As long as my message is understood, I've done a good enough job. I have a burning hatred for people who correct others on the internet. If you knew it well enough to know what word I should've used then you're only correcting me to boost your own ego. My phrasing might not have been perfect but I was still able to get my point across. That's all that matters.
>>524368401Lmao I’m pushing 30, I have a PhD, steady well payed work, zero debt, plenty of assets, lots of friends. I’m sorry it upsets you that some people have bigger souls than you and find meaning in using their brains for something other than being a good golem slave for ZOG. Life doesn’t have to be drudgery, if you’re White and have a triple digit IQ. Shut the fuck up about your poorfag niggerbrain “real world”, the real world is different for subhuman golems than it is for people with souls.
>>524368459++good my droog.
>>524368494>I have a burning hatred for people that teach me things I didn't want to knowHow malnourished are you? Have you considered investing in a proper stock of beef?
>>524366848you don't necessarily need to know the correct terms for syntax to produce grammatically correct languageat least if you learn a language young when your brain is still elastic, you don't need to know the rules the brain just recognizes the patterns and fills in the blanks
>>524368494I'm retarded and you shouldn't be allowed to make me feel bad about it if you understood my downsy mumbles... Interesting argument. Fucking stupid but cool to see the gears tic
>>524368263Nice non sequitur.>>524368267>No why!?>>524368285Yeah, I hate grammar nazis that only correct people to boost their own ego. So sue me.
>>524368366my father was a fiercely intelligent man in several disparate academic fields, yet he was similarly "retarded" when it came to practical matters, or when dispensing "fatherly advice." though, he did not do it out of malice, so I would never think of maligning him as you do to yours. unless he specifically set out with unprovoked intent to injure you, shut the fuck up.
>>524368075This is a common bullshit opinion. Grammar, logic and rhetoric is studied by the Jews, Freemasons and in elite private schools. Keep spreading disinformation, Shlomo.
>>524368494What you have is a burning chip on your shoulder because you’re retarded and insecure about it. People saying words you don’t like makes you feel small and left out. Protip, you can always google the word they said or just ask them to clarify. Nobody will bully you for being honest and curious instead of being a huge faggot who’s proud of his ignorance.
>>524368376>No why!?
>>524368389You're on 4chan at 4am. You're not my better.
>>524367567for those wondering, it's the latter"has" relates to "one", "of those people" is a prepositional phrase. You would say "one has," not "one have."
>>524368598Kek why are you so focused on a missing comma... What do you think that proves while you passionately wax on about the virtue of mental retardation?
>>524366848I mean... I learned about these things in middle school... and once again at the community college in a writing class.
>>524368566>knows words>can't metaphorPathetic.
>>524368566You know you can always just look up whatever bullshit they said and then it can’t be used to bamboozle you? Better yet just be generally literate so that they can never even slow you down with their trivial corrections. Knowing more about your language and the world around you is generally a good thing, actually. This salt-of-the-earth rugged simple man who tells it like it is schtick is a cope used exclusively by insecure retards.
>>524368468Language isn't immutable, you retards. It changes everyday. Stop acting like it's set in stone just because you learned it at school last week.
>>524368663Congrats you’re already better than most mutts, and definitely better than the seething migger ITT insisting that booklearnin is corny and just for whypipo.
>>524368649They're both wrong. "Who" is incorrect. The subject was already established. We are assigning the subject an object.
>>524368518Like I said, you live in an academic fantasy world. You're like sheldon, a fucking laughing stock to the majority of the planet.
>>524368684Language is immutable.Until it isn't.But that was never YOUR call. So shut the fuck up and accept it.
>>524368684Nobody implied it was... Lashing put isn't going to make you seem correct. You're just digging the he deeper
>>524368591>because kikes and freemasons study advanced topics, said advanced topics are hogwashlol another gigabrain in this thread
>>524368709No, it's not incorrect, but it would be preferable to say "Are you one of those people with no skill other than speaking a foreign language?" for the sake of brevity and clarity.
>>524368541You aren't my teacher, nigger. Go teach your own kids. Oh wait, you're a sexless loser, I forgot.
>>524368721> saaar being literate and highly paid to not blow out your back by 40 makes you…. LE SHELDONHahahahaha you are so fucking jealous. Go back to shoveling shit or driving uber jeets or whatever it is you scrape together a living with, subhuman.
>>524368671Show me five grammatical mistakes I've made this thread.
>>524368755Yes he is. You are a dumb illiterate nigger with a complex in need of some serious schooling and probably meds.
>>52436859511 out of your 13 replies are directed at me. Who has the chip?
>>524368743It is incorrect.All you have to do to understand is swap "who" for "that." No, I can't fucking explain it better.
>>524368791Why would I comb through your posts for grammatical errors? That’s pedantic and stupid. I can point out that you’re actively advocating for ignorance as a good thing because it will own the libs o algo to be a nigger and reject all forms of enrichment that separate civilized men from beasts.
>>524368651That's not a missing comma, dipshit. You said no instead of know.
>>524368857Not an argument, you pedantic nigger. Funny how when there’s something you can quibble about you jump on it immediately. Reeks of insecurity.
>>524368728>Language is immutable until it isn'tWhat arev you even trying to say, retard? That's my point. It's always and forever changing.
>>524368542Syntax is more important than grammar.Etymology is more important than definition.
>>524368572What kind of a mind buck breaking virus are you running, lecturing other men how they should talk about their bum fathers ayyy lmao let me guess, it has something to do with fantasy literature and imaginary skydaddies? You dumb fucking subhuman nigger gorilla don't you ever think again you have enough human inside you to talk to me. The shit I took this morning has more worth than you
>>524368904I will grant you that this is 100% correct and that anon is full of shit. Strict prescriptivism is unscientific.
>>524368840Because clearly I'm such a drooling retard that it should be easy to find and point out my mistakes. At least that's the portrait of me you're trying to paint.
>>524368904Don't pick out one line because your brain caps out there.Get your pen and paper and take notes on my 4 sentence comment.
>>524368894You're all coming at me about not knowing things and he says no instead of know? It's called people in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones.
>>524368972So you're just aggressively agreeing with me? Okay then.
>>524368943>I also didn't finish readingMORE THAN ONE SENTENCE.Fucking hell.
>>524368192and this is a large contributing factor (aside from lack of funding/unified objectives/lack of patronage networks/etc.) in why major leaps in everything from scientific disciplines to philosophy and sociopolitical theory are so lacking at present. cross-disciplinary knowledge confers immense qualitative benefits. this is why everything seems so "stagnant" as the final generation of polymaths largely aged out during the scamdemic. because we're on pol, think about purely political thought. who is there? and not purely through results such as Bukele, but with overarching theory. Lavrov and Xi come to mind, but they're ancient. Chomsky is ancient and cooked (and was chiefly a linguist, anyway). civilization (both at a nation-state and global level) won't last if we fail to produce polymaths. kikes and hypercapitalists realized this, which is why environments that support polymaths have been intentionally gutted. they seek civilizational collapse... and they will most likely achieve it.
>>524369024Yeah, I thought you were the system 32 guy. You are clearly autistic because your brain assumes others will clearly follow your thought patterns when they don't actually make sense to anyone.
>>524368950The portrait is one of an anon who is insecure about what he doesn’t know or understand and decrees that his level of knowledge is all that is necessary or proper, and any more than that is pedantic sophistry. Effectively, that being more informed or educated than you makes you an impractical pedantic egghead, because it would be too painful to admit the more reasonable conclusion: that you’re unferinformed in areas that may actually have some value and could stand to improve your knowledgebase somewhat.
>>524369073Wait for the deflection...
>>524369073I guarantee you're underinformed on subjects that have value to you too. Only a nigger tries to educate people who don't ask for it or want it.
>>524368982I don’t think typos make people stupid. I think being proud of ignorance and insisting anybody less ignorant than yourself is just wasting their time on no good booklearnin is pretty dumb though.
>>524369104I don't no what you're talking about.
>>524369147I guarantee I have more knowledge than you in certain areas. Let me rub your nose in it and try to educate you. I'm such a nice guy trying to help you.
>>524368649No, the first option is correct. "Who" is a relative pronoun. The antecedent of "who" is "those people", which is plural, therefore it's "are", not "is" because the relative pronoun agrees in number with its antecedent. In English this "agreement" is just implicit, in German it's explicit, the relative pronoun itself changes form depending on the antecedent.>Those people have no skill.>Are you one of those people who have no skill?Relative pronouns and relative clauses are much clearer in German.>Ich kenne die Frau, die das Buch geschrieben hat, das Du gelesen hast.I know the woman who wrote the book that you read.>Ich kenne den Mann, der den Tisch gebaut hat, den du gekauft hast.I know the man who built the table that you bought.Study German and Latin, and languages in general, to deepen your knowledge of grammar.Easy Parsing And Analysis Book by J. C. Nesfieldhttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.272041/page/n29/mode/1upPrinciples of general grammar. Comp. and arranged for the use of colleges and schools by Roemer, Jeanhttps://archive.org/details/principlesgener00roemgoogPrinciples of general grammar : adapted to the capacity of youth, and proper to serve as an introduction to the study of languages by Silvestre de Sacy, A. I. (Antoine Isaac)https://archive.org/details/principlesgener00sacygoog
>>524369069>autism is when I refuse to understand metaphors and deliberate self contradictionThis is precisely what we're talking about. "Autism" does not belong in your lexicon.
>>524369154Kek this>>524369135Instead of addressing his point you deflected the question. I was pointing out you were going to be a disingenuous nigger and then you did the thing I predicted. Thank you
>>524369135If I encounter words or concepts I don’t know I look them up or ask instead of assuming a priori that everything I don’t immediately know is some kind of threat. Most of the time, sure, it’s useless, but surprisingly often something I thought wouldn’t be very relevant to my life ends up being very useful in unexpected ways. There’s a lot more commonalities to human experience than you might think. Curiosity is valuable in a stochastic, long term sense, if you’re always using a greedy acquisition function and not looking more than two inches ahead of your nose you’ll miss a lot of valuable information.
>>524369032They exist, but I would have to agree that the society as a whole is being dumbed down because useful idiots are... useful.Specifically when things like democracy is the law of the land.That's largely what the book i pointed out states.Another one being on propaganda by Bernays.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_(book)
>>524369213Again."Who" is wrong. Replace with "that."
>>524366848Show me an examples where you actually need an active understanding of grammar to read something.
>>524367550>No, it means words used in a technical sense when the conversation is full of laymenWhy do you think technical accuracy in your communication doesn't matter when there are laymen around?They'll continue to be laymen if never exposed to technical concepts. I really don't care if it makes them feel bad, I will continue using technically correct words to describe concepts. If they don't like it they can just leave lol.
>>524369213Actually it's one. One of those people is a singular. You can drop the "of those people" entirely and the phrase makes no sense. >Are you one who has no skill>Are you one who have no skill
>>524369307Grammar is a prerequisite for efficiently learning and thinking about rhetoric. Rhetoric is obviously extremely useful if you want to be informed and not be duped by every bit of Jewish sophistry and weasel words you come across in clown world.
I just started working for a medical graduate college and I would be shocked but it turns out most student doctors and the professors who teach them are in fact, fucking retarded.
>>524369329>Are you one that has no skill...Shaking my fucking head.
>>524369236Except a common trait of autistics is thinking normal people can follow their bizarre thought patterns.>>524369249Get back to me when knowing what an antecedent is brings value to your life.
>>524369365It's honestly impressive... I actually don't think he is trolling either.
>>524369310>If they don't like it they can just leave lol.Remember those words. That's foreshadowing the rest of your life.
>>524369213German also maintains a large number of declensions compared to english aswell as varying subject verb order.
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>>524369365I'm just writing the way he wrote it. Take it up with him. And tell your little canadian cheerleader to stop riding your dick, it's pathetic.
>>524369374>a common trait is performing functions unrecognized by the general populace that the general populace will immediately begin screeching about rather than inquire or investigateYou aren't describing autism.Again, the word does not belong in your lexicon.
>>524369374>common trait of autistics is thinking normal people can follow their bizarre thought patterns.Asbergers used to be referred to as neurotic psychopathy.
>>524369469Kek awww jimmies officially rustled. Stay mad dummy
>>524369476Bro, I don't make the rules. It's a defining characteristic of autistics. You assume others can follow your thoughts when your thoughts don't make sense to anyone except yourself.
>>524369469Look, everyone, he's susceptible to weight of numbers if we (you) other people that mocked him.>>524369395
>>524369511>jimmies officially rustledKnow they're not
A year from now we should be able to just buy a house with a few coins, bros.
>>524368737learn reading comprehension
>>524369374> Explain general principle that requires a modicum of abstraction, future planning, and curiosity to grasp> BUT I DID HAVE BREAKFAST SAAARCome on man, you must have been one of those faggots who seethed and asked “when will I use this in real life!” when learning civivd or algebra.Like I explained to the kraut, grammar is a dry, technical requisite/bedrock for a lot of more complex tools that let you analyze the written word effectively. You almost never literally identify the antecedent for the sake of it IRL, but like algebra or basic literacy, it’s a basic tool in more involved and practically relevant processes.Your problem is that you’re a lazy brown nigggerbrain. 100+ IQ White people instinctively understand how curiosity and a structured understanding of the world is valuable. Niggers insist on immediate applications for everything because they can’t delay gratification or entertain hypotheticals.
>>524369476>a common trait is performing functions unrecognized by the general populace that the general populace will immediately begin screeching about rather than inquire or investigate
>>524366848nigger, what kind of test is that that gives you the answer to the question...like...
>>524369522>no, no, you HAVE to be autistic!I need no such thing. Imagine being indoctrinated into believing everyone more capable than you, that frequently forgets you are actually stupid, is autistic.I'm not autistic just because you're dumb. Fucking height of midwittery, at best.
>>524369558And you're one of those faggots that said you wouldn't have a calculator in your pocket at all times. Who was right about that one, bitch?
>>524369558Six seven.
>>524368926syntax is part of grammar
>>524369572Yes, I know you think you're baiting me.That's why I get to make fun of you at every turn.Because YOU are baiting ME.
>>524369403I have a group of 4 equally autistic friends that have been best mates since we were all 5. None of us are going anywhere, retard. (We're 48 now)Sounds like you might be lonely though.
>>524369600Lmao you really are a nigger. You were born a natural slave, made to toil in the dirt for the convenience of better men who ask questions and create things and advance humanity.Your soul is simply smaller than theirs. Weep, slave.
>>524369542Lol
>>524369628sneed
>>524367261It's important if you're white. It saves time. Jargon gatekeeps only the retards out.
>>524369752This. Brown niggerbrains with candle wick souls have no place among true humans within whom the Divine Fire burns bright.
>>524369643You're correct, but not all grammar is syntax. Human language is an auditory form of communication foremost, but can be considered visual. The written word is tactile.
>>524369752To be fair, jargon has morphed from acceptable gatekeeping to mental torture in the last 20 years.No, I won't look up 20 words you word saladed together because you didn't understand the word "abstract."
>>524369667And yet here we both are at 4am on 4chan. The only difference is I'm not trying to pretend I'm better than I really am.
>>524369329No, neither "one" nor "one of those people" is the antecedent. A relative clause only modifies ONE noun or pronoun. It has to be modifying "those people" because if it's modifying anything else then "those people" is left without a modifier, and that makes no sense, then it becomes just "are you one of those people?". Are you one of those people what, which people?
>>524367699>somebody says it>checkedthe kikes greatest fear is normies learning latin. today yall learn why kikes hate latin. latin is the language of GOD JESUS, when moses inscribed the commandments it was in latin. kikes then rotated the latin language letters, like literally just spun them to the left and called it hebrew. >so whatlatin has a single ‘perfect’ present tense, as well as tenses on verbs. train your mind to think and speak in these tenses. when gypsy’s and kikes and crystal roasties talk about manifestation/the power of thought, this latin tense is what they think they kno but they dont. it is the language of GOD. if/when you speak it true and from the heart, the matrix will literally obey your will. yw. praise INRI.
>>5243698361st time i see an american talk about "jargon", i thought you guys dont do it in school or something.You're not even supposed to know the meaning of it if you're outside of the group... that's the whole point.
>>524368052That's not what niggardly means leaf bro, funnily enough it's more akin to kikery.
>>524369907The best part: No one else is, either.Enjoy.Oh, wait. You're lying. You actually do realize you're trying to pretend you're better than everyone here, right?
>>524369907>The only difference is I'm not trying to pretend I'm better than I really am.Nobody is more humble than me.More humble than even the gods, I am.
>>524369907But I am better than you. You’re an anti-intellectual niggerbrain and always will be a niggerbrained brown subhuman. You were simply made with a smaller, dimmer soul and will toil away in drudgery until you die never having created or learnes anything of note. You’re filler biomass, half a step up from a goat or a sled dog.
>>524369978It only takes 1 deranged tranny to induce extreme hatred of jargon.They just fucking love talking about their therapist's misuse of the English language.>they shortened "affectation" to "affect"
>>524367261> Fuck jargon and the people who use it.They are not jargon's though, by definition jargon's are code words for a specific group (mostly criminal) to communicate without people knowing... like the cops using 10-4 for OK.The tiktok brain rot is something else, something retarded.
>>524369936Thank you for your service, autismosven.
>>524367261I'm not an anti intellectual but yeah
>>524370067i get the ick when i hear "sesh" instead of session.It's gloating really.
>>524369936The modifier is one. He is one of those people. The subject of the sentence is the singular one. He is but one out of a group of people so it shouldn't be plural.
>>524367647no, you're simply a jeet
>>524367674kek
>>524369936>Are you one of those people what, which people?Do you want to play a game of questions?https://youtu.be/u3xIs0aajN4?
>>524370000You are. You all argue from the point of view that you have the knowledge and that I want or need it. It's presumptuous to try to teach another adult anything, especially when they don't ask.>>524370039I'm not bragging about anything, asshole. I'm saying you retards need to chill. Just look at >>524370049
>>524370098The verb must agree with the subject in number, the modifier doesn’t change that. This is clearer in other Indo-European languages where declension systems are more productive than those in English.Your salt-of-the-earth vibe syntax is giving you wrong answers because you don’t know how to organize your thoughts with precise language, what you would call “gay booklearnin jargon”
>>524370187It is gay and retarded to refuse to learn and get upset at the prospect that conversations might he opportunities to expand your vocabulary and worldview. You are a dumb insecure faggot.
>>524370187A tacit request is, by definition, never literally voiced.What did you think being wrong in public was?There is one person in the wrong here.
>>524367824Your father didn't know such things, it is why he didn;t teach you about them.Education is one big Ponzi scheme
>>524370093I'm not anti intellectual either. I just think saying the world is going to hell because kids don't know what an antecedent is is just as nonsensical as saying the world is going to hell because kids don't know what a carburetor is. There are more important things in life than this.
>>524370187>and that I want or need it. It's presumptuous to try to teach another adult anythingRelax, nigger, you're not on reddit. We're just talking, nobody is boasting with their knowledge.Personally i like retards, make me feel extra good.
>>524370201The subject isn't those people. We are referring to a specific person who is part of the group. If academia says referring to ONE of those people demands a plural then you illustrate my point perfectly with how gay and pedantic you faggots are. The sentence is referring to a specific person. Talking to him, actually. Why would he ever respond in the plural for just himself?
>>524370262You have made it clear that you are an anti-intellectual and think having to learn anything ever as an adult is unacceptable and offensive. Well adjusted triple digit IQ people are glad to learn something new when they interact with other adults. They respond with “oh, I didn’t know that” or “why is that the case” instead of “HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE THAT I, A GROWN MAN, DON’T KNOW LITERALLY EVERYTHING I WILL EVER NEED TO KNOW”
>>524370343>you're not on redditCould've fooled me with how petty you all are and how much you love heckin science.
>>524370260>Education is one big Ponzi schemeMaybe, i would say that atleast socialized public education is a money laundering operation.
>>524370345You’re literally just wrong. No need to get so mad. Sit down and draw the grammar tree, you’ll see that it’s syntactically impossible to do it any other way.> If someone who knows what they’re talking about disagrees with what the vibes tell me, it PROVES book learning is GAY and cringe and me being in the slow readers class didn’t matter!
>>524370098Just study grammar. I gave you four links.https://libgen.li/edition.php?id=137170227>>524369213Or study German and Latin.>>>/lit/24966701
>>524370352There's also "HOW DARE YOU TEACH ME THAT," but that's reserved for certain types of information.Like being reminded trannies exist.
>>524370428That anon thinks studying is gay and libtarded. He gets offended when reminded that he doesn’t know everything worth knowing. Definitely brown.
>>524370426>If you use my gay academic mumbo jumbo then you'll see how you're wrongWhy pluralize a question you're asking a single person?
>>524370262>the world is going to hellnot literally.>There are more important things in life than this.who said otherwize, you goddamn retard.Something good can come of this still, why do we are so hellbent on keeping retards in school for 12 years, 8 grades are more than enough. Also on women, those niggers should recieve some real benefits and stop asking them to go to college and give them the same jobs, we keep them in school up until 21-24 years and they are still retarded.
>>524370428Why pluralize a question you're asking a single person? Is he a king?
>>524369957>when moses inscribed the commandments it was in latinHoly fuck, get some education you moronic Mutt!
>>524370475There’s not mumbo jumbo. Here, check it out,You are one [ of those people who … ]It’s a relative clause in brackets with its own subject and verb. One exists on the outside, with a singular verb “are”. Why are you so mad? You’re just wrong. Seething about how insecure you are that academics are smarter than you won’t change that.
>>524370428>Or study German and Latin.No thank you. I spent enough time in catholic churches and listening to Lutheran hymns for one lifetime.
>>524370516Because “those people” is the subject of the verb inside that clause. Stop being so emotional and defensive, it’s the first step to actually learning something.
>>524370537The word in question is has or have, you complete dipshit.
>>524370543> Booklearnin is gay and cringe and too hard for me> If you give me an objective verifiable reason why I am wrong I will be personally offended and call it city slicker hocus pocus!
>>524370571So it's correct to say, "are you one who have no skill"? The inflection point was have or has, you retard.
>>524370516>Why pluralize a questionYou can be ignorant of the grammar concepts and express anyway you choose as long as you understand the essence of the message transmitted.Problem with you is, you're retarded.If you passed more than 8 grade it's a testimony of how much of a failure the schooling system is, you are let in society as that other anon's equal, and very sad, my equal.
>>524370590That’s higher up in the recursion so it doesn’t matter dude. The subject and verb are completely local to that clause. Stop getting mad and defensive and just think for three seconds (“my gut says” is not thinking)Are you one of those people who X is easier to analyse as a statement,You are one of those people who XIn this form it’s more obvious that “you” already has a verb (to be), and cannot take X as a verb. X binds to “those people”
>>524370669So it's okay to ask a singular person if he's one of a group who have no skill? Or one of a group that has no skill? Which one, nigger?
>>524369554I am indeed saying that you're a fucking retard
>>524370698The only difference between his two sentences were the words have and has. Please explain why have is the correct word to use.
>>524370641No, because “one” is clearly singular. It IS correct to say “are you one of those people who live there”, for example. The verb that binds to the subject “you” is “to be”, the verb in the downstream clause binds LOCALLY to the subject in that clause. Not the one above it.Does that make sense?
>>524370641>"are you one who have no skill"You tell us if it's correct or not, you can mean both ways:>are you one [of those] who have no skill>are you one who has no skill
>>524370345The sentence>Are you one of those people who have no skill other than speaking a foreign language?has two clauses>Are you one of those people>who have no skill other than speaking a foreign language?Each clause has a subject and a predicate.The subject of the second clause, the relative clause, is the relative pronoun "who", which is plural because its antecedent is "those people". "have" agrees in number with "who" which implicitly is plural, in German it would show explicitly that it's plural.>Those people have no skill.>Are you one of those people who have no skill?
>>524370738Because the subject of the subject (you) already has a verb, “are”. “Those people” is the subject of a separate clause, which has its own verb. That subject is plural and thus so is the verb.
>>524370611>city slicker hocus pocus!Abra-cad-abra
>>524370708i talk to retards all the time, i can understand what you're saying, i dont know what sparked that particular discussion.Im just telling you you're retarded in how you argue.
>>524370641no it's "art thou unequivocally destitute of skill" tardo
>>524370816I don’t speak German but in Greek or Latin (or indeed any Romance language except maybe French) this is not a puzzle at all. The answer is obvious and it is clear that one is grammatical and one is not.
>>524370844Subject of the sentence* oof sorry about that
>>524370750Have or has, nigger.>>524370753Of those isn't the subject, one is. Are you one. One has, not haves.
>>524370938One already has a verb in that sentence, “are”. “To have” does not bind to that subject, it binds to the subject in the same clause. Is this confusing to you? Svenanon already explained it in exquisite detail and you insist on pretending to be retarded because you’re too insecure to admit you made a minor mistake and hadn’t noticed that.
>>524370938you aint wuz a nigger, you BE a nigger, nah'mean twin???!?!!?!
>>524370816>Each clause has a subject and a predicate.A clause must have a predicate, it can lack the subject. The grammar rules were reviewed in 1980's, the subject is actually subordinate to the predicate. Anyway i wont call you wrong, because for a while that was the taught grammar in schools.I can tell you are above the age of 30 just from that.
>>524370816This is the shit I'm talking about. You can jew your way into making anything true. If I'm talking to a singular person, I'm going to use the singular has. I don't care how you split it up. Are you the kind of person who has no skill... is exactly the same sentence but uses has instead of have correctly? This is the pedantry in full view. You aren't right just because a bunch of kikes got together and agreed you are.
>>524370938i would accept both. In high school i imagine you'd be taught only >are you one [of those] who have no skill
>>524370938I see your confusion. You see think the subject of the sentence (“you”) is the only subject any verb can bind to and that every verb has to agree with. This isn’t the case. Using * to mark subjects and { to make verbs, the basic structurr is*You* {are} one of *those people* who {have}…Have binds to the subject right before it, which is plural. Is that clear enough? Don’t get offended and huffy that I would dare tru to explain something to you, a grown man.
>>524371003This is academia sniffing their own farts and making up fantasy rules they expect everyone to play by. You're talking to a single person and using a plural. It makes sense only to anal conformists.
>>524371111You talk like someone who has been burned by learning and feels threatened. That is a perfectly reasonable response and is not Jewish witchcraft. You can use your brain to trace every claim and verify whether or not it’s true. You cannot, in fact, Jew a falsehood into being true; it can only appear to be true to someone who is intellectually lazy and/or uninformed
>>524371182you are not correct anon, you shouldnt have passed 8th grade.
>>524370722I wasn't saying that because Jews and Freemasons study the Trivium therefore the Trivium is bad, as you said. The person I replied to said the Trivium is something that you just pick up automatically without studying it. This is what I objected to, and I said Jews and Freemasons study the Trivium, implying that they wouldn't be doing that if it was either innate or something that everybody just picks up automatically without studying it. When I called him Shlomo I was implying that he is spreading disinformation to get the goyim to hate these subjects so that Jews can have this knowledge for themselves.
>>524371182No it’s not anon. You’re refusing to process a very basic concept because you have a chip on your shoulder and get emotionally activated when something looks confusing. It’s very VERY simple. There are two clauses, two subject-verb pairs. One is singular, one is plural. Do you understand? Don’t seethe about how mad it makes you to not understand , just point out what doesn’t make sense lile an adult.
>>524367261 It's word buerocracy and I'm no fan of government.
>>524371274want until he fights that you can refer to "you" as a plural.
>>524371192>Jew a falsehood into being trueKek get a load of this retard. That's literally all science is. Over and over and over again. Complete morons itt.
>>524371213He's just angry he speaks English and not American. That's what it boils down to.
>>524371274>>524371182I will add that in real life casual speech nobody would care, least of all me, but if you’re writing a document for work or submitting a statement to a lawyer or something you don’t want to make yourself look a fool with trivial errors.
>>524371326*finds
>>524371261that's not me lacking reading comprehension, that's me not not being a fucking mindreader to things you did not state at all, autismo
>>524371274Oh look, you've got another cheerleader. Imagine that. After I made the aussie leave and the canadian leave, now you've got a gyppo. This thread is so organic.
>>524371332Stop changing the subject. Just because you feel resentful towards some academic bullshit unrelated to this doesn’t mean your tantrum is justified.There are two clauses, two subjects, two verbs. One is singular one is plural. Some smug bastard pushing bad interpretations of climate data doesn’t change that so shut up about it.
>>524371390You’re just wrong. You could be a man and say “oh I guess that is the grammatical one, my mistake” and move on. Instead you’re throwing a seething tantrum.
>>524371334It's not an american thing, all the grammar of the roman languages is the same (german is a bit different). I could pretend it's because he's american, but truth is society needs to give retards a break and not make them go through 12 years of mandatory schooling.
>>524371404You're fucking stupid because the rules for writing do change, all the fucking time. MLA is different now than when I was in school. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>524371488> Changing the subject again> Getting emotional over a simple matter of factsThey do, but this one has not, so that’s irrelevant. Subjects and verbs have to agree in number in English, otherwise you’d be able to say things like “they walks” or “he are”
>>524371451No, because I don't accept your rules for how I'm allowed to talk. Orwell pinned it down. When you change the way people talk, you change how they think. I refuse to accept your kiked way of writing.
>>524367778If its so clear, whydid you use a word you dont know? lol. "everything important is semantic" is a senseless statementthe reason we have jargon is to prevent morons from using the words wrongly and sowing confusion
>>524371461>but truth is society needs to give retards a break and not make them go through 12 years of mandatory schooling.It would sure give the tax payers a break, the military says "no" though.
>>524371544And knowing what an antecedent is has no bearing on this at all. I can see the problem. You faggots actually had to learn our language instead of being immersed in it so you get irrationally upset when we go against how you were taught it in school. We say things that don't make sense to you ESL speakers but wouldn't cause a batted eye in native speakers. I've noticed jeets tend to go the hardest on grammar bullshit.
>>524371390be respectful you mutt, i gave you an out and accepted both statements, because i believe the origin of the statements are separate in origin.The main thing that makes you wrong is your refusal to understand that the standard of grammars are made to have a functional society. School's main purpose is not to teach you something, it's to have obedient little functioning drones; for some time now that was forgotten and schooling no longer produces obedient drones or smart individuals. We get some faux intellectuals with diplomas that shouldnt have passed 8th grade. These retards have the academia training (and paper work) of experts but the understanding of an 8th grader. What was the point of you getting out of school with higher than 8th grades ?
>>524371378It could possibly be inferred from what I was calling bullshit/disinformation, but it was a bit vague yes, but you're the one who's guilty of conjecturing.
>>524371547You have a chip on your shoulder and seethe at someone saying X is grammatical and B is not because you interpret it as them telling you what to do. You clearly have an unhealthy relationship with authority.I am NOT saying this is how you have to speak. But I AM saying that according to the generally agreed upon definition of grammaticality in English that 99% of sources will confirm, X is grammatical and Y is not.That does not mean “Y is bad”. It does not mean “you are personally bad if you say Y”. It is an impersonal statement of fact, like me telling you whether a certain chess move is tournament legal. You are free to play by your own rules, this is simply a clarification of the existing standard ones.
>>524371655>learn our languageIt isn't "you're" language, it's english.
>>524371677Blah blah blah. I'm not reading all that. Go suck that anon's dick some more idc.
>>524371564that will never happen, sadly, schooling has become a very profitable business, giving fake diplomas to retards is very very profitable.
>>524371713You’re coming off as emotionally dysregulated and unintelligent. A well adjusted person doesn’t respond this way to being wrong about a verb conjugation. Get your shit together, man. You can talk however you want, it’s fine. Normal people speak in nonstandard, non grammatical ways every day.
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>>524371693Yes, I do have an unhealthy relationship with little tyrants who think they can tell others how they can say or do things. Again, to circle back to my main point, as long as the intention was expressed and received, who fucking cares if a bunch of kikes agree with the sentence structure? The only time something is grammatically incorrect is when you say it and the receiver has no idea what you're saying. Anything else is fucking fine and to demand others follow your gay ass style recommendations is absolutely absurd.
>>524371655you goddamn fucking retard, you can know what an "antecedent" is without knowing what it's called. You think we call it "antecedent " in different languages ? yet we can talk to each other.
>>524371655I’m a native White English speaker and have picked up several other languages throughout my life; some for work/business but mostly for fun.You sound mad and resentful and bitter. You should pray about that or something.
>>524371844You come across as a careless pottymouth
>>524371877Point to any of my posts that weren't clear and concise in regards to my intention. Yet I'm apparently too stupid to understand how language works. Except I've been speaking it from my first word. You stupid niggers had to learn it and want to lord over natural speakers the shit we take for granted that you had to work your asses off to understand. I get it, you feel like you put more work in than I did but you really didn't.
>>524366848I do know who Coppola is, BTFO
>>524371983Whatever. Fuck you, faggot.
>>524371844you fucking retard, you being dumb as your whore mother that spat you out of her bleeding hole doesnt make us tyrants.You cant follow, you cant lead, you cant have a meaningful conversation... you are uninteresting, unfunny. How could you ever be funny, you'd have to act dumb or appreciate the differences between reality and fantasy. If somehow you manage to attract a woman, she would have to be the dumbest cunt ever, remember this on your wedding day.
>>524371755K-12 is mostly about keeping the population healthy enough to draft.We learned that in ww1, but didn't really get around to fixing it until after Korea.Of course we didn't learn to not draft retards until Nam.
Great Books & Democracy - Victor Hansonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cGnzUfgfsc
>>524372028>Can't have meaningful conversation>100 replies sent directly at meWhatever you say, nigger. This will never be your language.
>>524371844You are confused. Grammar has very specific rules. “Grammatically correct” does not mean “clear” or “understandable, which you seem to be conflating it with. Grammatically correct means “adheres to the rules of the grammar”.It is possible to say something grammatically correct and not be understood, and vice versa. “Grammatical” does not mean correct or good, it has a specific meaning and it’s okay not to care about it in casual speech.
>>524366848Public schools didn't teach me Jack Diddley I am a millennial but a late millennial so I'm closer to Gen x. My school didn't teach me how to tell time, how to read cursive, or what nouns pronouns etc are. Public school is the biggest waste of taxpayer money at least it was when I was going. People always say teachers don't get paid enough, I say maybe they get paid too much.
>>524372073Neither yours.
>>524372041the american military is amazing. What was the iq threshold that makes a person completely useless to anything the military does ? 90 iq or something, and around 15% of populace is below that.The US military is an amazing organization, god bless them.
>>524372097Whose rules? Who decided? No one asked me.
>>524372125Yes it is.
>>524372097>>524372153He doesnt understand it, even if you said it's fine to be "wrong" gramatically.I bet you can get him to put his fingers in the electrical plug if you ride him hard enough.
>>524366848All they teach you in swedistani school is how to suck nigger dick.
>>524372212Answer my question. Who decided how you can and cannot talk?
>>524366848I didn't go to school to learn linguistics.
>>524372206Nuh uh.
>>524366848I copula with ur're mum, feggat!!!111
>>524366848tf is unc yapping about frfr cuh
>>524372259It really is, though.
>>524367303low tier view point. but don't fret, there are even phd's who believe your viewpoint as valid.language is to convey ideas.overly caring about syntax is only to either add obsucration or entertainment value.ie. go write a fucking book if you're some selfmasturbatory language fag. or try and explain things so most people understand the idea you're trying to communicate.
>>524372255Finnish isn't a language its a form of communication between reindeer.
>>524372303>overly caring about syntax is only to either add obsucration or entertainment valueThat's what I'm saying. Correcting people is a dick move because in order to correct them, you have to know what they meant to say in the first place. And if you know what they meant to say then what they said was correct enough that no meaning was lost.
>>524372236>Who decided how you can and cannot talk?uhm, he literally told you can speak however you can want.If you want to ask that question literally, that would be french in the 18th century, a young gup just like you, named Jacques Rousseau invented a most peculiar notion known as a "social contract".I will be quoting this, i doubt you can understand the essence of a "fake" notion, specially from the "french":"Rousseau posits that the social contract is a collective agreement in which individuals unite to form a sovereign body governed by the "general will" (volonté générale), which represents the common good rather than mere majority opinion. This general will ensures that individuals, while submitting to laws, are essentially obeying only themselves and thus remain free. The contract is described as a total and unreserved transfer of each individual's rights to the community as a whole, with each member becoming an indivisible part of the whole."Sorry, anon, you gave away some of your rights away just by being born.
>>524372276says (you) and only (you).
>>524372153You’re too emotional and quick to anger over nothing. The “rules” are not normative or prescriptive, they are a description of the common denominator for the way the majority of English speakers speak.They are not a law you have to follow. They’re more like the “rules” of basketball or something. Everyone plays by somewhat different rules at home, but there exists a standard, and it make sense to ask “is this play legal by that standard?” sometimes. That doesn’t mean you have to follow the standard, it’s an acknowledgment that it exists.Stop taking everything so personally. Your life is gonna be nothing but unnecessary hardship if you do.
>>524372432That's weird because most people don't know what an antecedent is so the social contact means you should just shut the fuck up about it, right?
>>524372105Yes, nobody learns anything at all in school. But not everybody has realized this yet, and not everybody has realized that if you want to learn anything at all you have to teach yourself. The most important thing to study is the Trivium.https://www.zhibit.org/diemythographer/die-mythographer-die/occasional-letter-number-one-2006
>>524372488Yes anon
>>524366848Grammar was proven wrong with llms.For years people tried to analyze language using grammar, they would create models that carefully deconstruct sentences and it never worked well.Turns out grammar is fake. It's a fake structure that sort-of fits a language, but isn't actually it. It's the ptolemaic epicycle.Proof: it's trivially possible to create non-grammatical sentences that nevertheless have clear meaning. A midwit thinks they are wrong, when in reality their existence disproves grammar as a concept.A language has structure, but the structure changes in realtime + full syntactic formalization is likely impossible, as semantic meaning is inherently intertwined with understanding.
>>524372454>the way the majority of English speakers speak.That's a highly dubious statement. Most english speakers don't concern themselves with anal style rules bullshit.
>>524372538Stop looking for zingers and gotchas dude. Just relax already. I answer your question respectfully and you feel the need to lash out because you’re insecure and have poor emotions regulation.
>>524372538yes anon, you can be as retarded as you want. that was your whole point this whole time.
>>524372521Midwit take. Everybody already knew that grammar is continuously changing and only ever an approximate template a hundred years ago. AI slop is not insightful magic, it’s linear algebra.
>>524367303Semantic like an adjective? Having semantic value? Everything is semantic as in be one? Or did you actually mean "the only important thing is semantics"? Please, explain yourself.
>>524372685The midwit take is to be a stickler for grammar rules adherence.
>>524372685It's literally not linear algebra, it contains linear algebra but every single llm requires nonlinearities
>>524372521>It's a fake structure that sort-of fits a languageyes, we invented a bunch of fake notions to keep retards from putting their fingers in electrical plugs.
So apparently there's a bot that posts jailbait porn on threads that hit bump limit now? When did this start happening?
>>524372745Good thing I’m not and nobody else is. You’re mad and lashing out at ghosts.This is a simple exercise. There are some rules for what is “grammatical”, and you can simply check if those rules are satisfied. The same way you can check if a number is odd or even based on some simple rules. Nobody says you have to exclusively use even numbers, and nobody says you have to exclusively speak in standard grammarical sentences. We were just asking if you know what an odd number is and you got really mad.Get help.
>>524372827They, just like you, are also having the same argument of "i can be retarded".
>>524372822Here in america, putting your finger in a plug is completely safe and will barely shock you. It's part of the wonder of living in a first world country.
>>524372827Months ago at least
>>524372843>You need to be constantly checking rules so you always live the way others want you toSlavery isn't a state of being but a mindset.
>>524372874you should test it
>>524372874> Le EBIG xingerDude stop. It’s not helpful and it’s kind of sad. Is your life full lf unnecessary conflict where you’re convinced you’re always the victim?
>>524372521This one variety of the bullshit they brainwash the masses with. Meanwhile Freemasons, Jews and elite private schools study the Trivium.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/503843380/#503845287https://archive.ph/ZR5g0https://cross-currents.com/2018/11/23/what-do-they-study-at-yeshivas/
>>524372921I never said this. Stop getting so defensive. I said it’s something you CAN do if you want, and that’s what the anon was asking.You can say you don’t care and move on, instead of seething endlessly at the fact that some people checked just for shits. Not everything is somebody trying to control you. Get help. Seek Christ.
>>524372924Your cheerleader has been roasting me saying horrible, personal shit and you won't say anything to him about zingers or being mad. THAT'S why I refuse to follow your fucking rules. Because they're bullshit and biased and I refuse to acknowledge your authority over me.
>>524372942https://www.amazon.com/Freemason-Philosophy-21st-Century-Jack-ebook/dp/B008A8LEB8
>>524372874about half of american households are too old to have full RCDs coveragethe safest countries are those where new buildings dominate, which is probably China, UAE
