Oliver Cromwell and his Puritan Protestant faction have long served as a source of pride, inspiration and glory for English Nationalists. He did what the English had not done in centuries; he over-threw the false monarchy and slew in open combat those so-called foreign nobles with Norman surnames. He defeated a vast imported foreign army that was set on defiling the faith of the English people. His military reforms also set the stage for Britain to emerge as a super power; with his navy defeating the Spanish and Dutch who until the point had been supreme, and his New Model Army striking fear into the leaders of the Continent. His reforms gave more people the vote, he was a Republican, and just generally he embodied many of the things which so-called 'Little England' cherishes to this day; a glorious blend of personal freedom, religious sincerity, being just and fair and having a sense of collective responsibility.In recent years he has been much maligned for his alleged involvement in 're-admitting' the jews to England. This lie has been repeated so many times that many people consider it common knowledge today. However, it is false. It never happened. When talk of re-admission began, a pamphlet war over the issue ignited, with a Protestant MP named William Prynne decisively winning the argument after his book that recorded the history between the English and the jews, culminating in the call to uphold the decree of Canute the Great and Edward I, who removed the jews and banned them from ever re-entering, on the grounds that they were the assassins of our Lord and Saviour, and an enemy of all mankind as the Bible preaches. His book is here: https://archive.org/details/McGillLibrary-rbsc_shapiro_demurrer-william-prynne_redpath-tracts_2v-579-005-19825
Here is what the Guardian, in a rare show of honesty, admitted after doing their own research:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/09/religion.ukhttps://web.archive.org/web/20220615180655/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/09/religion.uk>The trouble is, Cromwell did not readmit the Jews to England in 1656. In fact, he didn't readmit them at all. Certainly they'd been expelled, by Edward I in 1290. In 1655, Menasseh ben Israel, a leader of the Jewish community in Amsterdam, came to England to persuade Cromwell to let them back in. In December that year, a conference of lawyers, merchants and theologians met to discuss the issue, but failed to reach a verdict. According to one account, "the Preachers kept pelting one another so furiously with Texts of Scripture, and wiping their Spectacles, that the Debates continued for four Days; though very little was said on the Question of the Jews' resettlement.">Members of the existing Jewish community in London (yes, there were Jews in Britain before 1656, albeit in hiding) then petitioned Cromwell to let them worship openly, but their petition was ignored. A merchant named Thomas Violet reflected the views of the majority when he declared, in 1661, that "it is Felony for any Jew to be found in England". In the centuries that followed, Jews were repeatedly threatened with harassment and expulsion, and continued to be classed as aliens.>The non-event only became fact in the late 19th century, when the mass immigration of Jews from Eastern Europe prompted widespread antisemitism.Thread theme: https://youtu.be/jU6XVbrhxdg?si=1zL-KAnq7HWoGvpX
>>526639667This traitor banned Christmas.
>>526639667He was a shabbos goy who slaughtered White Europeans and invited Jews in to ruin the country.Protestantism was a Jewish psyop. They didn’t like how powerful and wealthy the Catholic Church was getting.
He let the Jews back into England. That was the entire reason he was put into power.
>wall of monkey giberthat fucker let the jews back in and murdered the good Anglican King Charles. fucking fuck only retards have that race traitor as a hero.
>>526639667He was protestant. You can worship Churchill and Stramer as well in that case
>>526639742>>526639779Read the thread you absolute nigger, he did NOT re-admit the jews.>>526639728True. Banned alcohol too. And gambling. Good man. Many Anglos agree with him and we've seen prohibiton movements not just in England but even in America.Imagine how much better off our people would be if they were not saddled with alcoholism and gambling addictions? The purpose of law is to uplift the people, to enable their ethnic strengths, and cover over their weaknesses. One of our ethnic races is clearly a common inability to deal with alcoholism, gambling, and addiction more generally. Cromwell was channeling that very English desire to actually help his people and do what was right, instead of just pandering to some abstract and suicidal delusion that 'freedom' is inherently a good thing.
Nah he was shit. Charles I did nothing wrong. Cromwell is a kingslaying bastard.
>>526639774>>526639779But, alas! (Oy vey!)Disagreement then broke out (between)The Presbyterian Parliament and the military who meantTo have an independent bent and soThe Second Civil War broke outAnd the Roundhead Ranks faced the Cavaliers at Preston, Lancs!And the King lost again, silly thing (stupid git)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBPf6P332uM
>>526639728He banned papist micks. A quiet reasonable thing to do.
>>526639667He seemed open to toleration of Catholics, and wasn't the raving Puritan fanatic he's often portrayed as.
>>526639925>A papist who imported French, German and Irish soldiers and murdered English people with them>Did nothing wrongI bet you support our current leaders bringing in niggers and pakis to murder and suppress our people too? Traitorous bastard.>>526640000The great crime in my mind was always that he had let the jews back in. Then I did some research and its a literal lie propagated by jews for both their benefit, and to rob the English of their greatest nationalist hero.Let us spread the truth. He did NOT re-admit the jews.
>>526640051>murdered English peopleThese "people" were traitors in arms against the state and rightful king.
>>526640051I always thought Cromwell was the liberal tyrant that led to our nigger loving New England Republicanism being dominant in politics for years
>>526640117You bring up an interesting point, which the hero Cromwell was pivotal in making.Is the Nation its people, or its King? Charles the Papist foreigner who used foreign hordes to murder the English populace; argued it was him. He claimed he was England, so by definition he could not be a traitor. Cromwell argued that the nation is the people of England, and when Charles fought against them with an army of foreigners, he had become a traitor.Charles refused to admit that he was a traitor, claiming he could do what he liked, that he was the nation and no matter what he did, it was right.So we cut his head off.Glory to England. To the English people. Not Norman overlords, but my blood kin!
>>526639667Cromwell was an agent of Dutch Jews. He even wanted to give the Jews St Paul's cathedral in London to use as a synagogue. King Charles is a Christian martyr.
>>526639937Fuck off Jew. Only kikes hate Catholics and the Irish.
>>526640318Easy there, micro-plastic Paddy. You won’t reclaim your island with that attitude.
>>526640373Kill yourself jew boy.
>>526639667>>526639911
>>526639911>"He banned Christmas.">"You're absolutely right, he banned alcohol and gambling."Wait, so why did he ban Christmas?
>>526640287This is the oft-repeated lie. Yet it is not true. Hence this thread.>>526640318You dumb nigger, do you not realise its papists working in lock-step with kikes that has led to the actual invasion of the West? Blair was a Papist. Half the US senate are Papists. When we look at the biggest charities/NGOs that are supporting immigration into the West, we have the Catholic Charities USA, Catholic Relief Services, Caritas Internationalis; ALL papist. Then also Church World Service which is comprised of Papists and Eastern Orthodox, as well foreign Protestants (like Korean and Hungarian churches).Jews, Papists and Muslims; all are the enemies of the White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.... I'll re-iterate it for the sake of the thread though. Cromwell did not re-admit the jews. This is a lie.
>>526639667>Reclaiming Oliver Cromwellno, people that let jews back in are the worst.
>>526639667he was a leftist
>>526640423I’m a disciple of Luther, potatonigger. Papism isn’t a White faith and your molestor-in-chief kneels before the altar of Synagogue of Satan like the agent of the Adversary he is. Cope, seethe, starve, yada yada. Write another jaunty song about your oppression while you’re at it.
>>526640466Not wrong about the papists being subversive but it does look like Cromwell worked for the Dutch Jews.
That's the guy who brought kikes to england btw
>>526640466>White Anglo-Saxon ProtestantHow can they be enemies of something that doesn't exist? Honest to god you belong in a mental asylum. Neither you or anyone else is an Anglo-Saxon you daft cunt. Anglo-Saxons don't even exist. There's not one single 100% or even close to it Anglo-Saxon person. The most Anglo Saxon people in England aren't even 50% Anglo Saxon for fuck sake.
>>526640434>Informal acceptanceThis is jew-speak. They were not re-admitted. When Charles II was restored, he brought his pet jews back with him from exile, and parliament and the merchants guild of London both demanded that he upheld English law and removed the jews. Charles ignored them.We should probably just have a law that bans people from Charles from being in power in the UK. They've all been bloody terrible. This current not excepted. We need another Cromwell today.
>>526640650He loved the jews and wanted to take a Christian cathedral in London (St Paul's) and hand it over to kikes to be used as a synagogue. Jews ordered him to kill the holy martyr and King, Charles too.
>>526640558You're a desciple of the devil and a yid.
>>526640501>>526640650He did not let the jews back in. Can you niggers actually read the thread? I gave you links.>>526640597Considering all of the lies that jews have told about Cromwell and the re-admission, I feel like a lot of this needs further research. From my own reading it doesn't sound like Cromwell had any affection for the jews. His initial openness to them appears to have been borne out of an interpretation of Christianity where he believed the jews needed to be converted to Christianity before Christ would return. So rather than wanting them to be established as jews in England, it appears he wanted to convert them.There are so many lies to do with this topic because it is in the jew's interests to lie about it. So let's dig it all up.What is interesting is that the jews were apparently illegal in England all the way up until 1890.
>>526640697Ahh yes the Irish telling me that the English don't exist. Same logic as the jews in that recent debate between Andrew Gold and Steve Laws. "The English don't exist, so it doesn't matter if people of your blood go extinct, it doesn't matter if your country becomes brown." Micks, Jews; bad news. Shapiro said the same stuff about the US. Get the Papist and the Kikes OUT. And all of the subhumans they brought in.
He's the best soldier this country has ever produced.As others have commented, the problem was his religious beliefs. He failed to understand that Puritanism would always be a minority belief and that trying to impose it on the whole county was going to turn the country against him.The king took your money but didn't care how often you went to church, that you gambled, drank, went to the theatre, whored around, celebrated Christmas, and all the rest.The Puritans did care, and made sure everybody else cared as well.After 10 years of this people were sick of it all and gladly welcomed the king back.
>>526640248To be fair I will put my cards on the table and reveal I am a scurrilous Irish papist, but my opinions on him are not as one sided as most Irish. I'm equally as sceptical of him as an evil scourge as I am of him being a hero, I think history has done justice more or less on his ambiguous role.
>>526640466Okay, now I think you are actually Jewish lol
>>526639667Cromwell was based as fuck but potato niggers will chimp out about it because they're desperate to claim they're down with the struggle and were just as exploited as the third world shitholes they love so much.
>>526640440>>526639911He also brought back the jews to England, ruining the nation forever. May be linked to his outlawing of Christmas, lol
>>526639667Without knowing anything about the details, I believe you. Yes if you say he is being slandered, that is probably the truth. All great men are slandered.
>>526641026Also he apparently believed the end of the world would end on 1666, and so didn't bother to prepare a successor. This made it easy for his enemies to oust his regime from power as soon as he was dead.
>>526641026>After 10 years of this people were sick of it all and gladly welcomed the king back.You mean: the people who write the books, majority of which are upper class nobles and especially those with an axe-to-grind; claimed that everyone hated him. In other words, Norman Catholics hated him and then said everyone hated him.It's like Emperor Nero in Rome. It turns out the plebs absolutely loved him, and it was just the aristocracy that hated his guts specifically because the plebs loved him and he loved the plebs. So for years people thought everyone hated him, when in reality its just the bias of the source, and the fact that unfortunately we don't get to see what the actual opinions of the lay people are.... They'll probably tell you in the history books that the English people supported mass immigration and point to what a few Greens and Labour MP said.>>526641178He did not bring the jews back to England, thats the purpose of this thread. That never happened. Its a jewish lie that become myth and is now considered fact. It never happened.
>>526641026Puritans are a scourge even til this day. It's not even about being strict with religion, which many here would see as based. They are simply tyrants and want total and complete control over everything in your life. The same people who turned England into a nanny state that arrests you for wrong-think and have been trying to do the same to America are the same people who supported Cromwell. Same bloodlines, same religion, same culture.
>>526641231cope.
>>526641231>He did not bring the jews back to EnglandHe did though.
>>526641269>The same people who turned England into a nanny state that arrests you for wrong-think and have been trying to do the same to America are the same people who supported Cromwell. Same bloodlines, same religion, same culture.True, political beliefs are genetic. Those were the ancestors.
>>526641230Is that so? That may explain the other information I've found then.So it is true that Cromwell was open to admitting the jews, but dropped the legislation after the pamphlet war and the Whitehall Conference. Elsewhere it seems he believed Christ would only return when the jews had been converted to Christianity, based on a misinterpretation of some verses in Scripture. He clearly had no love for judaism or the jews, he was motivated by wanting to spread the Gospel.If he believed the world was to end within years, that might explain his openness. Nonetheless, he did NOT re-admit them. He upheld the will of the people, and we must end the slander.>>526641269>Don't be a puritan, let your children watch porn, let them take drugs, here have some alcohol, oh and let's open a gambling shop on every street. Actually lets open 5 on every street.Fuck off. Men with a soul want to protect their people. Jews want to poison us with their cancers. Puritanism is necessary; we must protect our brothers and sisters from their filth.
>>526641378>muslim can't understand nuancecolor me surprised
>>526639667Living under his rule sucked so much that people didn't let his son succeed him.
>>526641330Puritans used self-governance and responsibility, not authoritarian state power. You are confusing English independence and sovereignty with German Emperor's wielding absolute power over their subjects.The Puritans are easily distorted by people like you and >>526641518 , in reality they allowed a lot of freedom, but wanted to safeguard against societal poisons for the sake of the people. While you accept ridiculous rules from your masters; we seek to preserve the sanctity of our kin.This needs to be said: the purpose of law is to enable a nation's ethnic strengths, and cover over their ethnic weaknesses. For some people, alcoholism may not be a weakness; for the English it is. I have multiple family members whose lives it has ruined. Gambling, drugs, porn, prostitution; it's all the same. Poisons that ruin lives. In 99% of cases, these things are clearly negative, with the 1% being "well I was a little bit more social after 3 beers". Like holy crap, it leads to so much violence, so much wasted money, so many health problems, so many stupid decisions, so many accidental injuries and deaths. Ban this filth.If laws have any purpose whatsoever, then we should be banning these things that debilitate and destroy our brothers and sisters. If you are some full blown libertarian then whatever, you're a retard; but anyone who actually believes in having laws to safeguard society, and yet still thinks we should have born and alcohol and gambling and prostitution be legal; is an absolute retard who has never followed their thoughts through to their conclusions.
Like all puritans, he was a faggot.
>>526641696We should ban social poisons like 4chan too. Hurrah for puritanism.
>>526641779Puritan society was very democratic and the freedom to speak your mind was always there. Niggers like this >>526641518 talk about people who cannot understand nuance, yet you and he embody that far more than the Puritans.I'm not proposing we ban Christman, or 4chan. I am telling you that factually Cromwell did not re-admit the jews. I'm also showing that fighting against societal poisons like alcohol, gambling and prostitution is a good thing by almost any objective measuring system. Point to any moral system, and try to weigh up the amount of good vs bad that having such things legal brings to a society?These things are pushed on us by the likes of jews who just want to hurt us. Who want to see our brothers and sisters debilitated, damaged and destroyed. How many English lives have been ruined by these scourges? When will say enough is enough?!Agreeing with me that we should ban poisons like that does not mean you have to think we should ban speech or imageboards or whatever delusional nonsense it is you are thinking.
>>526639667He let the jews in and now you get arrested for making Facebook posts
>>526640967You don't seem to understand what that anon is saying, he didn't say the English don't exist, he said they aren't Anglo Saxons.All genetic studies on the subject show that the majority of English trace 60-70% of their heritage to the Celtic Britons, pre any Anglo/Saxon/norman invasions.I suppose that means saying you aren't Anglo Saxons isn't exactly correct either, but at best you're 30-40%.You can still claim to be culturally Anglo Saxon at least.
>>526642431https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/09/religion.ukhttps://web.archive.org/web/20220615180655/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/dec/09/religion.uk>The trouble is, Cromwell did not readmit the Jews to England in 1656. In fact, he didn't readmit them at all. Certainly they'd been expelled, by Edward I in 1290. In 1655, Menasseh ben Israel, a leader of the Jewish community in Amsterdam, came to England to persuade Cromwell to let them back in. In December that year, a conference of lawyers, merchants and theologians met to discuss the issue, but failed to reach a verdict. According to one account, "the Preachers kept pelting one another so furiously with Texts of Scripture, and wiping their Spectacles, that the Debates continued for four Days; though very little was said on the Question of the Jews' resettlement.">Members of the existing Jewish community in London (yes, there were Jews in Britain before 1656, albeit in hiding) then petitioned Cromwell to let them worship openly, but their petition was ignored. A merchant named Thomas Violet reflected the views of the majority when he declared, in 1661, that "it is Felony for any Jew to be found in England". In the centuries that followed, Jews were repeatedly threatened with harassment and expulsion, and continued to be classed as aliens.>The non-event only became fact in the late 19th century, when the mass immigration of Jews from Eastern Europe prompted widespread antisemitism.
>>526640967That is the nature of the papist, after all.
>>526642452It's the same argument as the English don't exist. I can say the same thing about the Irish. You don't exist, because thousands of years ago we have records of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians setting up colonies in Ireland. Therefore you are not Irish, you are not of Munster or Leinster or whatever; you are actually an Egyptian, actually you are just a rootless mongrel.Yes, my ancestry will include more than JUST Anglo-Saxon. However, my ancestors WERE Anglo-Saxons. I have their blood in me. I am Anglo-Saxon. Those Anglo-Saxons themselves no doubt had the blood of Goths and Franks and Frisians among them; further back we may even argue the blood of Scythians and Sarmatians. Do we go further back? "They weren't Anglo-Saxons because they were Scythians. And the Scythians came out of Mesopotamia diaspora so actually you aren't a Scythian but a Mesopotamian.No. I'm an Anglo-Saxon, their blood runs through me, and I remember the evils done to them; and I remember their glories too. "But you have a Huguenot ancestor" doesn't change this.
>>526642452You're wasting your time, the English are incapable of understanding that they're more Celtic than Germanic
>>526642717>You don't exist, because thousands of years ago we have records of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians setting up colonies in Ireland.I'm afraid the genetic studies on the subject don't support this hypothesis.We're not talking about historical myths or misconceptions anon, we're talking about hard cold biological facts.You trace your lineage to the same people who inhabited England 3000 years ago, the same way I trace my lineage to the people who inhabited Ireland 3000 years ago.There's really no room to argue on this subject, not a single genetic test on either of our populations has come up with anything else.
>>526642904>>526643243Literal far left talking points pushed by jews and catholics to justify demographic replacement. I was going to explain how DNA tests come up with categories that they tie to nations and explain how its all very messy, but nah. I'm going to take my son out.Have a good day everyone, and remember to correct the lie about Cromwell re-admitting the jews. You can hate him for being a puritan. You can hate him for embarrassing your ancestors in war (looking at you, Irish and Spanish anon). You can even criticise his peculiar end times views, and mention the Whitehall Conference and the jews petitioning him to let them back in. But he did not readmit them. So lets end this lie once and for all.Godspeed brothers everywhere, even Paddy and Diego; may your nations be blessed and be the inheritance of your blood descendants forever more, and let the invaders be removed.
>>526643720>Literal far left talking points pushed by jews and catholics to justify demographic replacement.I actually don't understand how acknowledging the fact that the majority of English DNA is from the indigenous population that has inhabited the isle for literally thousands of years is an argument in favour of demographic replacement.You're acting irrationally because you are overly emotionally invested in the particular identity of "Anglo-Saxon", despite overwhelming evidence that it represents a minority of your bloodline.
>>526639667Cromwell was the jews revenge for Longshanks expulsion. No one is as full of hatred and thirst for revenge as a jew.
>>526639667Overthrew false monarchy because the real ones serve the rothschilds.
>no fun allowed: the leaderAny decent leader knows that you need bread and circuses to placate the normies, very few people are capable of living like some austere monk. That's why every attempt at creating such a society has failed early on (see prohibition in the US.)
>>526640967>Ahh yes the Irish telling me that the English don't existYou always do that you weasly sneaky underhanded cunt. I never mentioned the English once just the non existent anglo Saxons. English people aren't Anglo Saxon but are a mix of people and not Anglo Saxon. Don't be sperging out at the "Celtic" in this image too because it just means iron age people.
>>526644006If you want to frame it that way then fair enough, but if you aren't aware its usually cited as a reason to support immigration.>>526644106Longshanks actually accepted a jewish bribe when the English first demanded the jews be expelled. It was after a child was ritually sacrificed and a jew was caught red handed and implicated essentially every jew in the country that he finally expelled them, while still demanding the English give him a large amount of their wealth as a condition.Canute the Great is a better example of a noble leader, though Edward I was excellent at war.Nonetheless, Cromwell did NOT admit them. Charles II on his restoration brought jews with him and refused to expel them when he was asked by parliament and the merchants guild of London to uphold English law and remove them.>>526644695Anglo-Saxon is the same as English. You trying to split my ancestors up into various categories is down to you trying being indoctrinated by judeo-papists who constantly try to undermine my people and nation.
>>526644232By the power of jews, italians, irish and cubans; the Anglo attempt to protect their communities from the perils of alcoholism was defeated, and many lives have been ruined since.I can see why our swarthy enemies celebrate this. An Anglo though? You celebrate your kin being poisoned? Retard.
>>526642717>we have records of the Egyptians and the Phoenicians setting up colonies in Ireland.Theres no records of this whatsoever because it never happened. Irish records go very far back too.You are an English man not an Anglo Saxon. None of you have a high amount of Anglo Saxon dna so it's daft to larp as an Anglo Saxon.
>>526640466Read this
>>526644920>Anglo-Saxon is the same as English.No it's not. Most English people don't even larp as such and just call themselves English and identify with Englishness. English is an ethnic group but Anglo Saxon isn't and is just part of the mix that make up modern English people.
I respect the papacy and am learning Spanish currently, and will probably reproduce with a third world Papist brown person
>>526640440 Because hyper-protestant puritan shitheads think everything that isn't suffering is idolatry. Buttons on your shirt? IDOLATRY! Pretty picture above your shitter? IDOLATRY! Taking a five minute break rather than working your fingers to the bone? WHY ARE YOU WORSHIPPING YOURSELF??!!! The Puritans were kicked out of England and ended up in the American Northeast for a reason: they are utterly and completely insufferable.
>>526639667He's Jewish
>>526639667I bet a 357 magnum would punch a nice hole through that armor.
>>526645112>let me define you No thanks. Anglo-Saxon is a catch all term for descendants of the Angle and Saxon Kingdoms unified by Athelstan, which includes Danes and Jutes and Frisians and Britons; and is contrasted specifically against the Normans. This is how the term has been used historically, even in America, and during the American war of independence the City of London sided the American revolutionaries on the grounds of a shared Anglo-Saxon heritage and a shared struggle against foreign occupation.
>>526645114>I respect the papacyWhy?>and am learning Spanish currentlyGood for you >will probably reproduce with a third world Papist brown personYou really shouldn't do that
>>526645447The best Catholics are always bad Papists. Sedevacantism is the optimal Catholic position: you can keep the traditions and local church organization and ignore the Pope because he's a daft cunt.
>>526645283English is the catch all term. Those peoples you listed like Britons and Danes fought the original Anglo Saxons and you think Anglo Saxon is a catch all term for the descendants of those people? Seems daft as fuck.
>>526645624They aren't bad Papist, they consider the stone chair empty. They crave for a new pope and see Protestants as heretic, worst than modernist.
>>526640440same reason he burned down the Globe Theatre and banned plays
>>526639667>>526639685Fuck off, kike.
>>526639667No kings?
>>526639937>quiet reasonableQuite*t. Catholic and majority Irish mutt Fucking retard, if you're going to spout your nonsense in 2026 learn what the fuck you're supposed to be saying you 83 IQ swine.
>>526645801>They crave for a new pope I don't think they do otherwise they could just declare someone who isn't a Vatican II dirtbag the new Pope. Leaving the chair permanently vacant means that no new guy can ever fuck things up and even though none of them will ever admit it, they like the idea.
>>526642452>>526642904The Ancient Britons were Germanic Celts though, coming from the same lands as the later Saxons/etc, over Doggerland.As opposed to the Irish Celts who were Gaelic Celts that came up the Iberian peninsula from North Africa after taking a very indirect route from Eastern Europe. Which is why so many of you are ginger nuts.
