Is /pol/ willing to admit that censorship, on some level, isn't necessarily wrong?
Yes
>>526721142Even attempting to remove pornography from the internet is, at absolute best, a waste of tax dollars. You’ll never even come close to accomplishing the goal and waste millions yearly on “enforcing” it.
>>526721142letting the government decide what you can look at is bad, and stupid. End of story. All of these half measures are just going to make things worse. Just get rid of the kikes, and browns already. All this weak ass shit about 'oh let's cut off something they promote'.... no just cut them off. Cut off the jews. The reason the society is spiraling into degeneracy is not 'because degeneracy is an option'... it's because society SUCKS. IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE LIVING IN A NIGGER KIKE SHITHOLE
>>526721442>letting the government decide what you can look at is bad, and stupid. End of story.So should the government let you look at child porn?
Why, after 25 years of the internet being a thing and porn being widely available, are they doing this now? They will use it to ban or restrict places like 4chan.
>>526721595>I'm not allowed to goon all day anymore?>WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE INTERNET?!?!?
>>526721142i don't think it should be banned, but profiting from it should be nationalized with a 100% income taxjew profiting off bodily fluids of aryans needs to stop
>subversivebased. ban that shit.
>>526721595It’s being used to force digital ID policies which are essential to the neofeudalist technocratic prison they want to trap us all in
>>526721960access and desire to see aryan bodily fluids is not a right
Ban porn.Ban violent video games.Ban satanic imagery in media.Enforce mandatory prayer in schools.Make men men again.
>>526721512>should it let you lookthis is exactly the problem with allowing the government to make the decision in the first placeThe government is not higher than the citizen. Anything the government can look at to verify it's bad, the citizen can also look at to verify it's bad. Should we let the government workers look at child porn?
>>526722275Answer the question.>Should we let the government workers look at child porn?Ooh, I know what you're doing. I think that JUSTICE SERVICES, like DETECTIVES and POLICE should have access to verify if child porn is child porn, yes.Now answer my question.
>>526721512>So should the government let you look at child porn?Given how miggers defend Epstein these days, you might want to be careful asking that.
>>526721142Gop just want to diddle kids privately in their mcmansions.
>>526722429Say it with me everyone:You lost, tranny.
>>526722327The government should not be letting the people see anything. I reject the premise that the government is somewhere holding a gate open for the citizens to see or not see. The government is something which the people control. The idea that the government has a place controlling the minds of the people is a form of government worship. The people are allowed to look at whatever they want.
>>526722609Answer my question please.
>>526722660I did. The answer is no
>>526722671Sorry, no, you don't think the government should legalize child porn?
>>526722700I don't think it should let people watch porn or anything else
>>526722256retarded christcucksurely mandatory kike on a stick worship sessions will defeat the kikes
>>526722719Cool...where do we disagree?
>>526722587>>526721142This is Alex from Tel Aviv btw. He's posted his brown hands before and he advocates for white infighting
>>526721142It must not be the government's job to protect citizens from their own choices. I don't think children should be watching porn, but I also don't think parents should provide their children with access to the internet, or let them have smartphones. And I don't buy into appeal to hypocrisy. There are other issues where limiting citizen access IS reasonable. But those issues usually revolve around citizens losing control of their faculties.
>>526722747You think it's a good thing to be a cattle beneath the government
it's a interesting one.a point to consider is that all governments institute 'laws' for the citizens, and they are not generally applicable to themselves nor their chosen.a two tier system of law is problematic, we can see that in most European heritage nations judicial systems now.and then we can look on the faggots and trannies constant shilling of how does what someone does(watches) in their own home affect you? and the extension of faggots and trannies now walk the streets waving their cocks and axe wounds at children? if a line was drawn, it would have to be finely drawn in a non-deletable ink, and i don't believe any politician alive would be capable of drawing a fair and equitable line.
>>526722780I think that it's probably not a good idea to allow degeneracy onto our shores, tranny.
>>526722756>>526722811Notice how Alex dodges the post when called out.
>>526722837You. Lost. Tranny.
>>526722811Submitting your soul to the government is the greatest degeneracy.
>>526722847Alex follows the same script in every thread. He also posts the China webm threads where he calls white people "chinksects". You should see his selfies. They're embarrassing.
Ronaldo Dworkin defemded the possibility of censorship on porn.
>>526721762lol what an idiot. Porn is the effect, not the cause. Women being fat feminists is the cause. Free mandatory Ozempic prescriptions for all fat chicks. Basic income for men only. That's the solution.
>>526722988>Porn is the effect, not the cause.Does it matter? Harm will always be downstream from previous harm, that doesn't mean we should allow harm to continue.
>>526723030>>526722756Notice how Alex from Tel Aviv has gone this many posts without denying it. He might try now, but he's already been caught. He'll call me a tranny now. Maybe a chinksect. He has a small script of insults and he can't veer off of the approved list.
>>526723097You lost, tranny.
>>526721142sure. I will admit that censorship is justified and moral when, and only when, I am the one doing it. All ideas that I don't like are harmful and dangerous, and any perceived loss of freedom is far outweighed by the harm that's prevented by banning those ideas. Any other censorship, however, is tyrannical and does nothing more than to stymie the intellectual and moral progress of a society.
>>526721142Censorship is cringe and for losers without self control. I don’t respect the desires of losers.
he's right
>>526722811Jews:>spend billions of dollars creating a porn industryAlso jews:>Oy vey goyim! You need to give us more power and use our digital ID service in Tel Aviv, otherwise your goy societies will be too degenerate don’t ya know
>>526721142Porn actors are just exposing themselves to people. If some guy exposed himself to people in a park he goes to prison for a decade or something. If the same guy exposes himself to millions of people online thats conpletely fine.
>>526721142porn is a result of muh women rights, you can't ban it when you allow women to dress like sluts in public, because these women will just post lewd pics/vids and will find a platform to share them.to control something, you have to go after the roots, and that's criminalizing women dressing like sluts/selling nudes/etc., and also after the jews who benefit from it, going after few lonely dudes is just another way to attack men for a problem that out of their control.
Porn isn't speech.
>>526721142is it over for onlyfans and its 'models'?
>>526721142Kind of doesn't matter if you know their end game is outlawing antisemitism and implementing digital ID to do so. Could there be a good line where free speech is limited? Maybe, but they're absolutely not interested in that line. They want the really dark ones.
>>526723305Being naked on a porn site is indeed the same as being naked in the local park. Good argument anon
>>526721142Porn should be under freedom of expression, not freedom of speech. They are not the same.
>>526721142No. "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
>>526721142I will never stop watching porn you fucking piece of shit. You think if you ban it I'll just stop? You think there won't always be a market, that we won't find a way? You think I'll just go out, get married and have five white children because you banned porn? Fuck you nigger faggot. I will watch porn and fap to giant tits and you cannot stop me.
>>526721512Your rights end when they interfere with the rights of others. There are multiple reasons that children are protected under the law.
>>526721142Can these old fucks die already? Fuck off.
>>526722054This is absolutely true.
>>526723647I know you can just not look at porn. But the same argument is valid for the guy flopping his dick around at the park. You could simply not look at him. Should he be free to flop his dick around in the park just because you can just look away if you dont wanna see him?
>>526723785We are way past that, retard.
>>526721142umm actually the founding fathers had big throbbing niggerdicks at the forefront of their minds when they drafted the first amendment.
>>526722737>he doesnt knowBanning prayer in schools and a host od other domino effects like womens rights and sexual revolution got us to where we are now yoh retardChristianity at least put a moral restraint and accoubtability factor into the lives of manyTake your moral relativism and nihilism and go bear the fruit of your labours, might as well kill yourself you psycho, thats what thats about in a nutshell: self destructionWickedness begets wickeness end of story
>>526723999Eat shit. Censorship is wrong. Just because some people misuse their freedoms does not mean we should not have those freedoms. It's the biggest mistake there is. You are either a woman, a jew, a communist, or some combination if you think otherwise.
>>526721512unironically yes i dont get why its illegal you can watch videos of murder and torture which are far worse crimes kek
>>526724092Wow. A based Canadian.
>>526723785You’re a faggot and Star Trek is made up.
Fast track to lose midterms and general election is based.
>>526721142You wouldn't have to ban porn if you didn't have weak fathers raising attention desperate cock-hungry sluts.
>>526721142No>>526721512Yes, it is only illegal so people believe the lie that it is bad. If you want people to believe "sex with children is all RAPE" you can't let them see the truth. For lies to be law truth must be illegal Besides most CP is self produced solo which is another thing they don't want you to know
>>526721142you can restrict business and still allow free expression. free expression also doesn't mean you are allowed to publish and broadcast on the internet. internet access is not a right. free expression is doing it yourself with your body. it might sound contradictory but blocking broadcast on media channels is not restricting free expression. you are entitled to self expression, not amplification or broadcast/publishing. print your own porn pictures and hand them out.the internet is not a Natural expression channel, as in you have no right to access or use it. it is a service which can and is regulated.
>>526724294Doesn't matter if the story is made up. The moral lesson stands.
>>526722747You are coming at it from the completely wrong direction which is why you don't understand what is being said. "The government should not people watch anything" meaning the people are not children who need to be allowed things by Big Daddy Government
>>526724436That's like saying that someone can protest, but only if alone, in their living room, with no witnesses, and quietly to themselves. No fucking wonder you idiots get arrested for memes.
>>526724546> meaning the people are not children who need to be allowed things by Big Daddy GovernmentThis is not true for a good 80% of the population.
>>526721142Of course
>>526721142Then arrest the traffickers and do drug raids on the productions.Porn is bad and does harm to people, but this isn't the way to fix it.
>>526723962Was he scheduled to be at the park and only people who wanted to see such a display went to the park at that time? There is certainly an argument restricting people being forced to see things just as the government should be restricted from forcing us not to see things. If you want to see a naked guy in a park there should be avenues to schedule such an event
>>526724390Based
>>526721142Porn is free speechJews aren't humanNon-humans don't deserve rights.Therefore porn made or published by jews isn't free speech.
>>526724488>you have to let your daughter get raped by a dozen cocks on camera >it’s free speech just like the founders intendedKilling pornographers in the street is the only moral path.
>>526721142This is just division of the masses.Nothing will ever be done about porn because jews own the industry.
>>526724092>Banning prayer in schoolsNever fucking happened. It can't mandatory >Christianity at least put a moral restraint and accoubtability factor into the lives of manyBullshit Christianity teaches complete amorality. What moral restraint does it put on people when you can just beg forgiveness later for all the horrible shit you've done? Churches that do confession except it to be a regular habit outright explicitly encouraging you to do bad things>Take your moral relativismThat is Christianity. Oh, sin can be forgiven, oh, we have to forgive like Jewsus forgives
>>526723355Yes it is, retard, free speech inclides speech you dont like
>>526724709Well. Maybe you didnt want to see this guy sucking his own cock while getting his asshole licked by a faggot.But now you did and this wasnt a scheduled event.Same thing when some site redirects you to porn or a porn pop-up ad comes randomly, there is porn everywhere on the internet and you cant just 100% avoid it.
>>526721595Because we have a generation that is staying home, living on the minimum possible to vidya and goon instead of becoming wage slaves or joining the military meat grinder. (((They))) need goy to keep filling the pockets of the 1%, which isn’t happening if everyone is staying home to goon
>>526721142Cool it with the antisemitism
Censorship is ok as long as i am the one in charge. Otherwise, it is evil.
>>526721142>still bumping memeflag threadsngmi
>>526721142>Another day where people don't understand the difference between a symptom and a diseaseBanning porn is like holding someone's mouth shut so they can't cough while sick with the flu. It's not the coughs that are the problem!
>>526721142it's inherently wrong, in the only way anything can be objectively wrongthat's literally why the first amendment exists
>>526721142No. And not because I think free speech has some benefits or makes society develop faster or whatever, but because I dont want to give government power to tell me what can I say or see, even if it means every other retard can do the same.
>>526721142Of course. Censoring my enemies is based
Replace the word porn in all the pro-porn arguments with CP.>it's hecking speech>the porn itself isn't the problem, it's a symptomA healthy society has to have a line, a common understanding that some things are evil. If there are no common axioms there is no society.All porn is evil.All recreational drugs are evil.All propaganda is evil.All advertising is evil.All censorship of opinions about policy including opinions that challenge the common axioms is evil.
You want to censor societal poison.I want to censor your ability to rebel.
>>526721512If I say yes you can report me for advocating for child pornography. So you are begging the question. The honest truth? No victim no crime.
