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>>526802733>>526802755lmfao based nytimes amplifying the storycheckem
>>526802755Their entire view on race is so self serving.They have entire university departments dedicated to studying race but only in pursuit of pampering and coddling minorities.When race is actually studied in a methodical way and differences are quantified in a critical way, they have a total meltdown.
>>526802719Jew York Times
>>526802733thanks for posting this formatyou know what always amuses me about these peoplewho claim “racism” is this ultimate evil thingthese people will routinely discriminatte against othersbased on height economic status attractivenessetcetera, yet we are supposed to just accept that“racism”is somehow this unique categoryits not, discrimination is a part of every day lifeyou eat one thing over anotherdiscriminationlawyers have really fucked up western societywith all their ambulance chasing word weaponsthis needs to stopthese categories need to be treated the samea woman discriminates againstshorter guys and society calls her empoweredeven a “natural eugenecists” (GIT GUD CHUDDIE)so as a person who is forced to be honest and doesnt just pretendthis honestly pains me that people make entire careers and livesout of one type of discrimination but if you notice racial patternsall of a sudden you are the penultimate evilthis must change
>>526802719The Supreme Court already ruled that blacks are disabled retards.
>>526802911This isn’t a meltdown over studying race. The NYT piece isn’t denying differences exist; it’s pointing out that people are abusing ABCD genetics/MRI data to claim more than it supports.PGS for IQ explain about 5–6% variance and mostly break outside Europeans. Brain volume correlations are small and mostly mediated by SES. Heritability ≠ between‑group causation. That’s freshman‑level stats. No peer‑reviewed paper from this data shows a genetic racial IQ hierarchy.You're just too blinkered and ill-informed to actually understand the objections being raised, nor are you motivated to learn.
>>526803026Yeah man, being disabled in a legal context is about requiring assistance in a given area or field. Not having equal access to the voting system doesn't hinge on mental disability anymore than it would on mental disability. You might as well say "lololol, Judge Jackson thinks blacks don't have working legs to get to polls!" but you wouldn't, because that's obviously not what she meant and very obviously stupid; so is what you inferred, but it aligned with your worldview so you turned off your brain when you got to a conclusion you approved of.You, in fact, may be a little disabled.
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>>526803578Blacks are disabled retards dude. The SC already ruled it. It's out of our hands.
>>526802719thanks for posting this
>>526802719A good start to a relaxing saturday.
>>526803658Look man, I get it. You hate niggers or whatever. It doesn't mean you look any less fucking stupid when you just can't/don't read things and evince zero understanding of your opponents' arguments.
>>526803949Look dude I understand. You don't agree with The Supreme Court but that's why they have to make the tough decisions. If they rule that blacks are disabled retards then we have to accept that as the law of the land.
>Let's do a scientific reseach!>NOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!tale old as time
>>526802755>social constructs like racewhen a journalist doesnt understand biology. race is a phenotype which is an expression of a genotype, that can be affected by environment but its certainly not imagined. its not the jeet caste system, its biology
>>526803977This data is racist!
>>526802719We have to face reality so we can cure them.The cure is genius sperm donation therapy.Cross breed them with the sperm on geniuses, and they will become much much smarter.
>>526803460small variations in brain volume have big implications. if something is significant, its significant.
>>526802733>"promote racial division"If anything, studies like these help remove racial division, because they actually provide a solid explanation for blacks' low academic performance that is not rooted in "racism" and "discrimination".
>>526803460Show me a single legitimate study that has ever showed the opposite of the conclusions posted above.There has never been a single one, and it's obvious to everyone, even leftists, who just make excuses.
>>526803460>people are abusing ABCD genetics/MRI data to claim more than it supportsAre you saying the study supports nothing at all?
>>526802733I can't read that
>>526802719>Jew York TimesI remember when they wrote an article justifying why they capitalise the word black but not White.Fucking kikes
>>526803460What about these variances?>400% more likely>1000% more likely>1000% more likely>1000% more likely>1000% more likelyIt is funny how the science on this is crystal clear yet you nitpick tiny irrelveant details, yet we are expected to accept anecdotal evidence about how African Americans would IQ 100 and low crime like white folks due to "systemic racism", despite decades of social welfare in the wealthiest country in the world and even racial discrimination against white people for not being "diverse" so black people can take their college places and jobs.
So how much brain volume do you need not to be a fat goy that watches sports, jew tube, jew media, has credit cards, and eats goy slop.
>>526802719>mean IQ for blacks is 85And interestingly enough the mean IQ for incarcerated violent criminals of any race is 85.Why is this racist? This is fact.
>>526802755>>526802733Hilarious, thanks anonAlso I wonder if the racism crowd yells muh bad mean whites about this when it gave Koreans and japs a higher score. And the USA negros don't seem to care about Japan or Korea as much and these places are way more openly racist to blackcand brown people than the states lol I know
>>526803460Why is it always a leaf posting cucked nonsense?
>>526803460You read all the papers, right? Post em here so I can give a look too
>>526803460if race isn't responsible for IQ then why have no studies ever shown blacks on top with asians down the bottom??
>>526802733>pubishing the anonimyzied data and results is exposing their data!I really dislike lying journalists.
>>526804433You gotta cut them some slack. They were born with weak mental constitutions and let propagandists steer them around like a beast of burden. Not everybody has the fortitude to stand up to a pack of shrieking hyenas spitting lies and hissing fallacies. He and people like him opted for the easy path, the path that makes them agree with the bad guys.
>>526802719you get a (you) just for not being a fucking faggot and actually bringing the article here like an oldfag
You can be a criminal and smart. You could have a million dollars and be stupid, like ishowspeed and asmondgold.
>>526802733"Thwarted safeguards."Like what? Did they have to enter their birthdate to make sure they were 18?
>>526804540Because leafs are cucked. I think they're terrified of being monitored and being found guilty of thought crimes. They spit fire when it comes to criticizing America but I have never seen them do that with their own government, the thing that has the biggest direct impact on their own lives. The draconian crackdown on that truck protest was the last dying gasp of any canadians with balls.
>>526802755>groups of 50 and a study size of 600 is not statically significantMore journalist lies. That's actually a fairly good stastical significance level.
>>526803460>Brain volume correlations are small and mostly mediated by SES.Controlling for height, the summit of Mt Everest is the same temperature as sea level.
>>526804336'Intelligence Polygenic Score Is More Predictive of Crystallized Measures: Evidence From the Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development (ABCD) Study' (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10404902/)>Environmental and experiential mediators may represent malleable targets for improving cognitive outcomes.>Some cognitive tests, such as those requiring literacy and mathematical skills, depend on and are more sensitive to variability in cultural and socioeconomic factors. These measures are often referred to as crystallized intelligence measures. In contrast, other tests that tap the capacity to solve novel problems or process novel information, often referred to as fluid measures, are less culturally sensitive and are less strongly related to socioeconomic variables>The finding that the measures most strongly influenced by cultural factors exhibit higher heritability is perhaps counterintuitive; however, previous authors have noted that genetic variation can be associated with environmental, cultural, or experiential factors that themselves amplify effects of a genotype on the phenotype, a phenomenon often referred to as gene–environment correlation... As an example, if other people in the social environments of children recognize traits (e.g., precocious behavior) in those with a genetic propensity for a given cognitive ability, they may begin to treat such individuals differently, rewarding them disproportionately for intellectual pursuits, investing more in their instruction, and/or placing them in environments that drive learning more effectively. Put very simply: Some brain-teaser games need lots of reading and math practice (school stuff). Other games just check quick thinking with brand-new puzzles. The school-type games look more “genetic” partly because kids who start out a bit sharper often get extra praise, better books, and harder classes.So their genes ride along with extra help, making the score gap look bigger than it really is.
>>526804433well said, the lopsided way “racism” is treated as a categoryrelative to other categories like height intelligence economic statusand the asymetrical way it is used as a cudgel to beat whiteswhile making it a moral imperative to celebrate non white races(think black month mexican month gay month etc)really just betrays the whole enterprise as intellectual hogwasha bastardization of categories under the auspices of“combatting racism and advancing progressivism”once you strip away the morality and baggageit starts to look like a very shaky structure based on false premisesand bad faith
>>526804492parasites at the top are requiredmuh hyper reductionistic argumentsabout pathological individuals gains no purchasewhen the society is run by miscreants and malcontentsunder the guise of eternal infinite victims
>>526802733I found a nigerian dud on twitter arguing for the reality of race solo against a dozen white onions wannabe intellectuals.With the development of genetic enhancement we'll also have to deal with the fact that denying that races exist will amount to preventing lower races from enhancing themselves.antiracism will be seen as a form of neocolonalism.
>>526803949leave it to rajesh to jump to the defense of the niggers he worships. why do turdjeets always wish they were niggers so badly?
>>526804433Those “400–1000 % more common” gene bits each move IQ by a hair... Think 0.01 point. Stack them up and you get maybe 1-2 points, not the 15 you’re bragging about. The polygenic score that uses those SNPs explains approximately 5 % of IQ spread in White kids and almost zero in Black kids. It literally falls apart across ancestries.
>>526804716>You could have a million dollars and be stupid, like ishowspeed and asmondgold.I hesitate to call either stupid. They didn't become successful by accident and even with media managers, they're putting on a character for the camera.I am not calling either smart and elon and bill gates both sound profoundly stupid when they speak outside their expertise.
>>526802719>retard commies melting down over evident facts.The fuck else is new
>>526804949when our technology advances to the point that we can "enhance" africans to be on par with humans, there simply won't be any more niggers. we'll gene edit their melanin and gorilla features out as well. why would you gene edit niggers into existence when you could make them look human instead? and that's assuming we let niggers use the technology for themselves, because they sure as fuck aren't going to be the ones to invent it, and it's going to be locked down tight by the whites and asians who did invent it.
>>526803460>>526803578>>526803949Go back you reddit spacing colossal faggot.
>>526804540kikes on vpns, who knows.real canadians, are pretty cool and reasonable.their government however is utterly kiked to shit.remember the truckers there that paralysed the whole country and brought the gov to its knees during china flu mandatory gene therapy?that was immediately memory holed by the ukraine crap
>>526802864kek this. i had never heard of mankind quarterly until this so now I have something new to read, as well as some relevant authors names. thank you based jew york times
>>526804849you were supposed to provide just ONE (1) example of a study where the outcome is the reverse of what we see time and time again - where is the IQ study where sub-saharan africans are on top and the japanese are at the bottom?
>>526805045>gene bits each move IQ by a hair... Think 0.01 point. Stack them upThat's not how it works. You have developmental gene expression that create a large physical result.HGH is the same hormone in humans, but the gene controlling HGH expression will result in different ages of growth spurts and different ultimate heights. Gene expression that controls brain hormones such as dopamine will help or hinder delayed gratification long term planning. Your IQ will be hobbled if your brain doesn't support long term planning, not because your brain is incapable, but your behavioral chemistry is forcing other thinking to a higher priority.
>>526804573IQ isn’t set in stone. It was made to help place kids in school, not hand out “destiny” scores. Practice boosts scores. So does nutrition, health, early schooling, and not eating lead paint as a toddler.Chinese scores shot up 7 points since the 90s. Inuits and Indians have switched places depending on time and place. These numbers aren’t fixed.Black populations in the West often start from tougher conditions: less money, worse schools, more pollution, more stress.The gene stuff only explains a tiny slice (about 5%) of the gap in white kids, and almost nothing in black kids, based on studies into the subject.If this was “all genetics,” you wouldn’t see countries leap 6-7 points in a single generation. But we do.
It’s fucked up that he frames this as a study showing ‘whites have higher IQ than blacks’They have data for ALL races. Whites aren’t even shown at the top. Why is this reduced to whites being smarter than black?…why not East Asians being smarter than whites ? Or Hispanics being smarter than blacks?They just want to make every story about the evils of whites being mean to blacks. It’s so obviously a hate campaign against whites, designed to create hostility against us. These people are scum.
>>526805045>Those “400–1000 % more common” gene bits each move IQ by a hair... Think 0.01 point.provide evidence for this claim if you want people to believe something that is counter-intuitive
>>526804849Answer the question. Show me one study that shows blacks at an equal footing.Your study just makes excuses for an obvious deficit. One that has historically been present, and remains present to this day in all developed countries that we have reliable data from.I guess it's just a series of several dozen coincidences, that repeat indefinitely through time and distance?>may represent>can be>may beholy kek read what you wroteThis also ignores the several dozen studies where blacks were raised with every advantage possible and still failed, like the 1985 Missouri experiment that spent $11,000 per black student and had 12 students to every teacher. Test scores did not improve at all.The evidence simply speaks for itself.
>>526805438if you can't find even a single (1) study where blacks are on top and asians are on the bottom, I'm going to safely assume that ethnicity is a reliable measure come on bro, pleasejust one study :)
>>526805406That study doesn't exist. I'm not denying that. I'm denying the plausibility and scientific rigor of your explanation as to why.Your ask is the equivalent of:>lol, if rural whites are so great, how come you can't find me one guy from Missouri who's richer than an oil sheikh or a jew banker?>if you can't find one, it proves that those people are harder workers, smarter, and just intrinsically better than rural whites from Missouri!I'm not auguring the one group doesn't perform better. I'm arguing it's stupid to say it's mostly/entirely based on fixed genetic characteristics until you control for other factors, and that when we DO control for other factors, it at least partially bridges those gaps.One's an argument about outcome, one's an argument about cause. Do you follow yet?
>>526804849while this is obviously true can you be honest and admit that black people quite obviously arent on average anywhere near as analytically gifted as asians, while asians are not anywhere near as extroverted as blacks. just to verify you can admit to what is immediate to any sentient (as opposed to ideological or retatded) observer.
>>526803578>Not having equal access to the voting system doesn't hinge on mental disability anymore than it would on mental disability.What the fuck is this sentence?
>526805438>more reddit anal leakagerich black kids on average still score lower on IQ and every other test than poor white kids.
>>526805648>performance>oil sheikhsyou are not arguing in good faith heresome guy in missouri didnt inherit an oil dynastycomparing them is comparing apples and orangesits actually ironic you would appeal to economic statusgiven everything else you posted in this thread
>>526805648fuck off you LYING STUPID NIGGER
>>526805753A typo. One was supposed to say "physical disability."
>>526802733>>526802755How the hell is your monitor so long
>>526802733>>526802755So in summary>Bad goy researchers took data and misinterpreted it>This can be used to justify racism and we don't like it>Remember the Buffalo shooter? He also used racist data>This data should have never been public>We can't refute anything the data says but we can tell you it's bad data used by racists and the majority of the Science community (tm) agrees
>>526805839yeah we figured that out without your inputcommon typos happennow admit your argument is garbage and fuck off
>>526805762don't know why anyone is bothering to waste time on the lying kike.it's as Hitler said, like dealing with a vile jelly that runs through your fingers when you try to grasp it.the kike will never admit facts and will just waste people's time which is exactly what it wants to do.repeating fact to it does nothing. it should be killed
>>526805720>extroverted as blacksSure if you consider being aggressive, impulsive and loud as extroverted. Jeets must also be extraverted when they form rape packs and shadow victims until one monkey does the first chimpout that signals the rest to close in.
anyone else see the first name "Terry" calling it "evil" and still knew it was gonna be a goddamn fucking cunt?
>>526805648thousands of studies,thousands of variables controlled for,no study where blacks are on top and asians are down the bottompropose an explanation and then prove it no one cares otherwise
>>526805045youre either disingenuous or ill informed. SNP effect sizes are overwhelmingly based off linear models. thats like trying to tease out the effect of a while loop in a piece of code by calculating its linear coefficient. in reality genetics is highly non linear, so any linearization obviously loses massive predictive power. now how much of the heritability is tied up in non gene regions? how much is gene -> environment e.g. parent is an antisocial asshole due to genetics, which causes the parent to be neglectful and lazy, which makes the kid turn out dumber?But none of this really matters cause its immediately obvious this is a non european problem because these issues do not occur anywhere where europeans exist. Even the poorest germanics maintain tidy gardens and manners and some level of cognition.
>>526802719OP is a faggot.Here's an Archive Link for those who can't read the imagehttps://archive.is/RPflj
>>526805522>holy kek read what you wrote Yeah man, good science doesn't assert causality or assign total responsibility to one factor unless it can be proven. Duh?Kansas City's study wasn't a clean test. Money went on planetariums, swimming pools, magnet themes, not early-childhood, teacher quality, health, or de-segregation. The district stayed 85% poor, 80% black, with massive student churn. Even Hanushek’s post-mortem admits structural rot swamped the cash.Minnesota Transracial Adoption (Scarr & Weinberg 1976) showed that black infants adopted by upper-middle-class White families scored IQ 110 at age 7, above the American white average. The USA Black-White gap shrank 4-7 points between 1972-2002.>>526805720So, yes, these things can be true without me having to buy the conclusions about causes or remedies implied or explicitly put forth by hacks who barely understand what they're reading or cherry-picking datasets to fit preformed conclusions.
>>526805996Lots of people demonstrably care quite a bit, lol. You are actually very upset about how society is structured around people caring about this.
>>526805438do you know how I know that when someone's using the urinals you go to the stalls?
>>526805962>law officesim telling you guys we got to get these lawyers under controlif you care about western societyhow many ambulance chasing idiotscan we tolerate? not many morethese sinecure wordsmiths need to be lowered in status in the westa lawyer should do real work not fake shit to bilkthe state and prevent people from freely associatingunder the auspices of “protecting minoritties”or whatever the fuck
>>526802719>>526802733>>526802755So even more will get free gibs and put ahead. great
>>526806064society is structured around silencing actual discussionof these facts and labels websites like this as “dissident”you are just another sinecure economic black holeand you are here pretending “intelligent society already figured this out, racist”if you had shame you would be embarrassed to make such a bad argument
>>526803460thats crazy cuz the MHDK coefficient in URAS can explain only 5-6% of the JZ there, the rest safely attributed to BBCs of FAGs
>>526805897Oh yeah and the red cherry on top>Did you know China, our adversary, used this data too? They're our enemy goy!It's like every excuse and cope imaginable. Every angle they can possibly muster. It's hilarious
>>526803460hey look, a science denying chud! your pet niggers are stupid, doesn't matter how much you try to deny the science.
>>526803578That's a lot of words to say nothing.
>>526804397You might be black
>>526802733>>526802755ooohh look at those numbersalso, "science" has become a crock of shitniggerIQ=IQ(1/0.75)+35(socioeconomic bonus)+10(street smarts)that way you get to 100 which makes it a full standard intelligencefucking retarded antiscientific faggots I swear to the gods, their bullshit will be their downfall
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>>526802719We've buried two generations of geniuses because wouldn't it be nice if they were a cool colour. The west deserves to die.
>>526802719Wow they discover the hot water
>>526806016>Evolution stopped at the neck just because
>>526806064you still haven't explained the results (data)why do brown people who, as a group, have been playing in mud up until very recently, always score the worst on intelligence tests?
>>526806000>'Beneath the surface of the sum: When genetic interactions matter and when they don't' (https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/beneath-the-surface-of-the-sum) shows that additive models already capture roughly 80% of genome-wide epistasis when alleles aren’t ultra-rare.>But none of this really matters cause its immediately obvious this is a non european problem because these issues do not occur anywhere where europeans exist.Check the UK: white Gypsy/Roma kids post the worst GCSE scores in the country. Far below Chinese, Indian, or Black African classmates. Tidy gardens, low grades.Additive genetics explains a sliver, nonlinear tweaks add crumbs, and real-world scores rise or crash with nutrition, schools, toxins, and cash. Blaming chromosomes for every social gap is just coping.>>526805491https://www.thehastingscenter.org/wp-content/uploads/FAQ_ea3.pdf
>>526806016>Money went on planetariums, swimming pools, magnet themes, not early-childhood, teacher quality, health, or de-segregation.Money went to an entire school, with qualified teachers. Why would money go to desegregation over 2 decades after desegregation?>Minnesota Transracial Adoption (Scarr & Weinberg 1976The children were first tested in 1975 at age 7. In 1985, 196 of the original 265 children were retested at age 17. The data showed mixed adoptees scoring slightly lower than white adoptees with gaps of 3 and 7 points at ages 7 and 17, while black adoptees scored 15 and 17 points below white adoptees at ages 7 and 17Are we just lying at this point?
>>526803977abjure that the earth is roundabjure that intelligence is correlated with geneticsreject the evidence of your eyes and ears and mathsyou have committed scientific heresy by doing science!>yet it moves, and they're fucking nigger retards
Thanks for effortposting, op. You're a rare breed.Having European ancestry leads to higher cognitive ability, glad that more research is acknowledging this.
>>526806327Has it occurred to you that U.S. black culture disdains literacy and education?Blacks literally think it's "acting white" to do well on tests and they'll beat up black kids who get high grades in school.Not saying there are no IQ differences, but America is a peculiar country because the black minority hates and resents education and even educational testing. That is automatically going to reduce IQ test score. Blacks think that trying to get a high IQ test score is "acting white".
>>526806327They don't, and if you could or wanted to read, you would have read my other posts already that explain observable differences and possible non-genetic causes, and show examples where this was not the case. You're married to a self-satisfying conclusion is all.
>>526804949This is pretty much what they're waiting for. Doing any comparison of IQ (or G, or whatever) between the races, (no matter how rigorous the methodology is) will continue to be compared to phrenology and Weimer era eugenics. Lots of 'you can't define what the different races are; where do you draw the line?' and 'IQ was never meant to be used as a measure of intelligence' weasel arguments.Then once reliable editing comes in they'll fix the problem quietly and pretend it never existed.
>>526802719>>526802733>>526802755I didn't need a study to know this
Reminder that they striped James Watson of his novel prize for daring to state genetics influence intelligence, and the disingenuous medias kikes used this opportunity to do a smear campaign against him.
>>526806216>>526806268I'm serious though lol. scroll past halfway and it's illegible.does anyone have a plain text form of the article?
>>526806564Almost nobody in here is interested in reading for understanding. They just want asspats for (allegedly) being right.
>>526806386You guys are so weird evolution is real but we are all the same with the same qualities your just denying reality because the the truth doesnt fit with your believe system your not into the scientific method your into religion
>>526806480>Has it occurred to you that U.S. black culture disdains literacy and education?Disdain for education is literally a hallmark of low IQ. Chicken and the egg, Ahmed
>>526803807Rollan!
>>526802733>Trusts the science>except when the science is "misused"
>>526804849>because kids who start out a bit sharperoy vey! did you just wrongthink and equivocalconclude that there's a genetic difference and we're not a tabula rasa all enviremont and no geneticstsk tsk tsk, baaaad leaf!
>>526805438>Black populations in the West often start from tougher conditionsAnd it's racist to understand why.
>>526804849'crystalized' intelligence is anything your mind is capable of remembering and recalling, the reason it gives math as an example is because most of it (outside of number theory) is memorization, the rules of addition, subtraction, division and so ontruth is half of math is fluid intelligence, recognizing patterns, translating a word problem into symbols,Inventing or adapting a strategy, seeing why a proof works rather than recalling that it does. math knowledge is crystallized; mathematical reasoning is fluidbut lets assume it was all crystallized for the niggers sake, when you say this is effected by socioeconomic and cultural factors you are saying black people cannot remember/recall math because their parents or neighborhood is stopping them from remembering it? maybe im completely wrong with your suggestion but honestly it sounds so stupid only a nigger could be dumb enough to make it up
>>526806652Low IQ doesn't make blacks hate whites and hate living in America. The comparison should be between first generation African migrant blacks and American blacks with similar ancestries. But African migrants in America do very well economically. For my money the problem is toxic, self defeating US black culture.
>>526806494the reason could even be entirely our fault and we still wouldn't be somehow morally obligated to 'elevate' them like when you adopted your wifes black son>>526806480yup https://youtu.be/lwvqCIAAd-M?si=_Urt2aIhJOggufZ1
>>526804880wait there's a mexican month??can't wait for fucking moustaches and hats and ponchos and bullet carriers and drunken big booted dancing banditos in the street for a whole month in the usa (niggers, pajeets and kikes are NOT invited thank you very much)
>>526806773>The comparison should be between first generation African migrant blacks and American blacks with similar ancestries. But African migrants in America do very well economically.Because of massive subsidies. Have you been paying attention to the news? Literally entire systems have been built to give these people free money.If only we had IQ studies for these africans too...
>>526806686That picture could be like 30 different guys that I know of. Why are gingers like asians and they all look the same?
>>526806480I never learned to reeeead
>>526806865I'm not talking about Somalians. Kenyans and Nigerians have done well for decades. U.S. Nigerians are some of the highest earning migrants of any group, on par with Chinese and Indians.
>>526802719>Actual NEWS article +1>/pol/ITICAL TOPIC +1>NIGGER-PALOOZA with RACIST Data +2>Poasts SS Article in full +1 X2>...In READABLE Resolution +4>OP is NOT a FAGGOT +3Thank you OP for this Not utterly POZZED thread.
>>526806706I never disputed that, just the exaggerated claims and conclusions made to that effect.>>526806746No it isn't.>>526806638>>526806300Again, not an argument I made.
>>526806616it was proven blacks have lower IQ a long time ago, and brain wave scans don't tell us anything about IQ.I'm curious how this premise was supposed to work logically, and I can tell there's actual words there... I just can't tell what they are.if anyone's brain was scanned, it was mine by AI to make the perfect bait for me to waste my time on
>>526806386see >>526806404all you have to do is point to one study showing blacks on top and asians at the bottom - you can even pick rich blacks and poor asians, as long as everything else is controlled forrealistically, of your proposed explanation was tenable there would be dozens of studies you could choose from, but you can't find even one, after all these years :(
>>526802755Checked and BUMPED!
>>526802719>>526802733>>526802755If you're against Trump, you must to agree with NYT
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>>526806830>the reason could even be entirely our fault and we still wouldn't be somehow morally obligated to 'elevate' themI mean, I can't force you to not be a solipsistic sociopath, no.
>>526806480the test doesn't have to be from/on americans, you dense cunt
>>526806928Again, due to massive social programs. Nigerian IQ average is 67-72. No study has ever shown it to improve above 80 in America.Yes, individuals can 'succeed' if they are given near unlimited opportunities that natives don't have access to. I don't see how any of this has anything to do with IQ deficits.
>>526806960ny times says it is
>>526802733>>526802755i'm not gonna read it i'm just gonna let it confirm my existing beliefs.
My favorite quote from the article>In the United States, for example, any serious analysis must consider how black people endured centuries of slavery and racial discrimination and how they today face disproportionately high poverty rates and a lack of quality education and careSo even if you were looking at genetic studies in the US, it doesn't matter because Social Science (tm) must be included in these stats, a black Somali is 63 IQ because of slavery that never affected himDon't forget race is actually really hard to define, but we know for a fact if you're black-skinned in the US slavery and racism affects your IQ!Literal cognitive double-think
>>526806751>but lets assume it was all crystallized for the niggers sake, when you say this is effected by socioeconomic and cultural factors you are saying black people cannot remember/recall math because their parents or neighborhood is stopping them from remembering it? Early childhood conditions (social, chemical, nutritional, etcetera) affect your later capabilities as much or more than genetics. Pinning it all on heritable traits and then writing off groups with those traits without doing anything to ameliorate the other causes is amoral and lazy.
>>526807057Nothing to do with social programs. You're quoting stats from poor illiterate countries with bad nutrition, not immutable properties of whole populations.
>>526802719Hahah The Jew York Times story isn't the science, it's that it got leaked and now everyone has scientific evidence that niggers are dumb.
>>526807065What beliefs. That your country is run by pedophile pakistanis and you faggot can't do anything about it?
>>526802719Low impulse control, lazy, bored, no respect for law and order, no motivation other than playing stupid games.You thought I was talking about black people?No this is the modern American.Racism is for people who don't want to be grouped together with inferior humans. Has nothing to do with skin color, ethnicity or nationality. It's a natural response to, not me or my background.
>>526807059That isn't exactly what they said, but also, I don't care about the New York Times.
>>526807097This claim is basically identical to "white people put bad juju magic on blacks to curse them, and we don't know how to lift the curse"
>>526807132You missed the part where I quoted it not improving here in their offspring. I'll wait.
>>526803460You're just another Jewish academic troll hiding plain truths behind obscure technical word salad and clever-sounding detractions.
>>526803460Brown hands typed this.Jeets are even dumber than your average american nigger.
>>526806968That doesn't make sense.>"Blacks never on top, therefore genes.”If farming conditions never flip, crop yields won’t flip either. Hard to find studies with Black kids getting the best nutrition, schools, wealth and zero racism. When pieces line up (early adoption, small Caribbean elites, etc.) scores jump.
>>526806494"all your other posts" are describing a potential explanation for an effect we haven't yet seen:me:>why do they always score lowest?(you)>they don'tprovide the evidence for this claim,where's the study where blacks are on top and asians are at the bottom?
>>526807171That is exactly what the times and the investigating bodies calling the use of the data unethical are saying.
>>526807226Thanks for calling me clever and technically astute. :) I guess I must have a higher IQ than studies would indicate is likely.
Take a look where the innovation from the last 100, 500, 1000 years have came from.Then look what Africans have shared with the world.
>>526804079Better idea. Sterilization.
>>52680702499% of all species to ever exist are extinct. Not only do we need TND but all boomers need to be shot as well for inflicting the cruelty of niggers onto innocent white children>put your kids in class with literal monkeys>they look act smell exactly like monkeys>100% of social studies class is about how they arent monkeys>and that seeing their monkeyness would make you the single most evil type of person possibleit's just cruel on the fundamental level of gaslighting children with developing brains
>>526807230>Hard to find studies with Black kids getting the best nutrition, schools, wealth and zero racismAnd it's racist to understand why.
>>526807226to add: everyone knows the peer review system is a load of shit. You niggers even waved through obvious fakes that had pornstars listed as authors.Total Peer-reviewer Death now!
>>526803460The PILPUL on this KIKE..>Let me explain to you what this REALLY means, goy.I suppose you could be just another brainwashed Libtard or paid jeet, from the flag, but this level of COPE after all the evidence and data SHOVED INTO YOUR FACE DAILY for the last 10 years...
>>526802911What I hate about this is that they don't address it. It's forbiden.Instead of studying them, seeing what the weaknesses and strengths of each race are and then making a pan to make them all the best they can be.They pick the easy route and just lower standards until some number so we're all equal! Why not address the fact that Black have lower IQ with a curriculum that designed for them. Why not have special schools for them that manage aggression and poverty? It seems to be like the military is fully ware of these differences are addresses them. All the black people that went to military training come back more disciplined, and more socially functional. >>526804433And this should be look at seriously. And also with Asians. Can you make gene therapies for kids that would make them smarter?Why is this such a forbiden subject it's beyond me.
>>526803460You're a dumbass. IQ is heritable and mostly genetic, and the obvious implication is that race differences are also mostly genetic. Scientist have tried to find an environmental explanation for years, and always come up short. Poor whites score better on the SAT than rich blacks, so it can't be poverty. Headstart gains in IQ don't last until adulthood, so it can't be a difference in early exposure to schooling due to cultural factors. The lead poisoning explanation went nowhere, and so on. Face the obvious already.
>>526806012>he doesn't know how to delete the m in the url to get the full resolution.Newfag
>>526807097except you faggot chuds can't dispute that because you believe in your own version called "feminist brainwashing".>nigs get gibs = goddamn greedy nigs!>white woman gets gibs = she's...brainwashed -_-
>>526802719I don't have the patience to read whinibg faggots. Does the article ever stop whining about how the data was obtained and try to give a reason why the race stuff is incorrect?
>>526806956Thank you
>>526807230So blacks went from being farm equipment to being crops. Interesting. Back to yiddit, retard. Or better yet, Haiti, so you can enjoy your negroid paradise.
>>526807257This nigger has the wit and reading-comprehension of a 6 year old if he thinks twisting clever-sounding into clever is somehow a banger comeback. Knowing technical terms is literally just a matter of training. You could teach a raven to say ornithology, no sweat.
>>526804397How would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast this morning?
>>526807400Nope. It's all about letting the cat out of the bag. Jews are like that.
>>526807400Of course not
The people of the United States are just tired of being identified as the same as whites.The USA doesn't want to be white anymore so why force it?
>>526806960Yes you are you are arguing that genetics is not the driving factor in intelligence it obvious is and different people with different evolutionary paths don’t come out at the same point, nature trumps nurture and the exemption doesnt change the rule
>>526805615.... muh dick studiesgotcha!>>526805916yeah, I've stopped engaging in these monkeybranching pilpul faggotsthey bore me to death and always end up going all snooty, fuck you learn how to think, ragequit and won't even answer ONE single straight point>>526806480that's why they "invented" the "unproven and delinquent" amerinigg category, heheheh, you can't even catch them on that peculiar hitchthem waycissts have done their homework my friend
>>526802719>>526802733>>526802755based, thanks
Black people have smaller brains and lower IQs. Just look at a black person's head, it is noticeably smaller.
>>526802733funny, how they not once dispute the conclusion.
>>526805438>So does nutritionNot in the West. >early schoolingNot in the West>not eating lead paint as a toddler.Very rare issue>Black populations in the West often start from tougher conditions: less money, worse schools, more pollution, more stress.Dumb people make their own environments worse. Besides, black schools get more money per student and still do worse.>The gene stuff only explains a tiny slice (about 5%)It's explains most of it, liar.
>>526806523this post is probably going to end up being prophetic>>526806773>For my money the problem is toxic, self defeating US black culture.which stems directly from "ooga booga muh dick muhfugga" brain structure (genetics)
>>526807440imma make it in a bit nigga relax
>>526806386everyone has tonnes of rare alleles and rare non genomic sequences. the blog you posted is cute but falls flat through pure reasoning. whats the beta coefficient of a while loop for predicting whether a piece of code says hello world? does it even make sense? pairwise epistasis is nowhere near powerful enough to model this. what youre dealing with is a probabilistic high dimensional graphical model or whatever. this is obvious.but lets keep this concrete. we know blacks have several genetic differences with huge effects e.g. CAG repeats of the androgen receptor, MAOI variants, serotonin, microcephalin etc.your example of traveller and roma kids is disingenuous and makes me think you're brown or jewish. those people are literally genetically extremely different from normal white british kids, and they most definitely don't have tidy gardensyoure intellectually and morally bankrupt. the falsity of your claims is obvious to anyone who merely opens their eyes to the world. kids fall between the traits of their parents whether they are raised by them or adopted. all races behave in similar ways wherever they are on the planet.
I dont need any scientific study, i have worked with black customers and co workers for years
The most interesting takeaway from this whole article is the fact that, yes, there is a cult within the US research community that is defined by social justice and ostracizing "bad researchers" if the conclusions don't match the social dogma. The "scientific consensus" idea is ran by this cult and they work in tandem with major news organizations like NYT to shame people. The article even said there was nothing wrong with the data but the bad goy researchers were racists. And it implied they leaked the identity of thousands of black children without actually leaking any sensitive information, and how the bad goys didn't inform the families. Plus China and Russia have access to it, so that's bad.Any scientific researcher with critical thinking can detect what's going on here, it's insane and anti-scientific damage control.
>>526807244Taking and disseminating private citizens' confidential data without permission and misrepresenting it to denigrate their groups was deemed, whatever you think of it, a breach of trust and ethics.>>526807235Exploring the divergent academic outcomes of U.S.-origin and immigrant-origin Black undergraduates (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3816006/) found that Black students who are immigrant-origin earn significantly higher high school grades and persist in college at higher rates than their U.S.-origin black peers. This suggests migration/selection effects and environment matter.The Minnesota transracial adoption study: A follow-up of IQ test performance at adolescence (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/016028969290028P) showed that black infants adopted by upper-middle-class white families scored IQ 110 at age 7, above the American white average.Understanding the Black-White Test Score Gap in the First Two Years of School (https://ideas.repec.org/a/tpr/restat/v86y2004i2p447-464.html) found that Black immigrant children close most or all of the black-white test score gap when controlling for parental education and background.OECD PISA data (https://www.oecd.org/en/about/programmes/pisa/pisa-data.html) shooed that while national averages are modest, selective secondary schools in Trinidad and Tobago produce scores comparable to Southern European countries.
>>526804849More Libshit pet coddling...Go live in a black neighborhood for a year.Doesn't even have to be a "Ghetto", just a "Middle Income" neighborhood with a >50% black population.You're WRONG, you suspect it, but your oversocialization, and social cohesion NARRATIVE, fed to you by those who would destroy you,(assuming you are White in the first place,) disallow you from even muttering under your breath that niggers might be an entirely different species.>pic very related
>>526807097Let's also point out that negro societies everywhere turned to utter shit IMMEDIATELY after whites were kicked out. Even non-retarde negros know the problem is the negro itself, and bemoan the sorry state of his mind in their own discussion.Handwaving it away actually conceals the problem and thus encourages negro suffering. Antiracism KILLS negros.
>>526807097its impressive that bulbheads are two full standard deviations below the average. They're on average dumber than literally 99% of people.
>>526807509You have a just-s story you have adopted, and are strawmanning my position because it complexifies and (partly) undermines it.
>>526807764That's not how species work.
>>526807601>which stems directly from "ooga booga muh dick muhfugga" brain structure (genetics)Africans aren't like that, though.
Reminder jews are africans. Why 'african-american' became a term cohencedently when all aspects of society began racially profiling for beneficial treatment.
The smartest blacks have figured out the deception of the mainstream narrative.They're few and far between, but they are almost always combative.
>>526802719i dont get why this is such a big dealanyone who has ever experienced a nigger and observed them speak and try to explain anything can instantly tell they are just a lower level of intelligence and a lower form of life in generaltheres also the shape of their small brained heads, look at a nigger from the side and try not to laugh at how far their monkey ass jaw protrudes while their skull recedes
>>526807724They got permission. That's one of the things they're whining about. And there wasn't any personal information, that's the excuse they gave for not informing the parents that their children's data had been used for something other than what they intended.
>>526807626Nonlinear stuff exists, but for most human complex traits the genetic variance shows up largely as additive in practice, even when biology has interactions. That’s why additive polygenic scores keep being the workhorse: they capture most predictable signal, and interaction-heavy models rarely add much in real-world prediction without insane sample sizes. The epistasis literature is full of “it’s pervasive” plus “it still generates mostly additive variance.”>“Blacks have big-effect gene differences: MAOA, serotonin, microcephalin, etc.”You’re mashing together >(a) genes with rare pathological mutations>(b) weak candidate-gene claims>(c) traits that aren’t IQ.The specific “common variant explains race IQ” hype has been tested and comes up empty in normal populations. One study literally fucking titled “No evidence that polymorphisms of brain regulator genes Microcephalin and ASPM are associated with general mental ability, head circumference or altruism” (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2104484/) tested MCPH1/ASPM against mental ability and related measures and didn’t find the story you’re telling.
>>526808079>>526807626>“Roma/Traveller example is disingenuous because they’re genetically different.”Even if they were (you’re asserting, not demonstrating), it doesn’t rescue your claim. Your argument was “where Europeans exist these problems don’t occur.” Yet you can point to poor outcomes inside Europe, in European countries, among groups living under severe exclusion and poverty. That directly undermines the smug “it’s obviously non-European” line. The mechanism can be debated, but the sweeping claim doesn’t survive contact with data.>“Kids fall between traits of parents even if adopted.”doption and immigrant comparisons consistently show large environmental components and big shifts when early-life conditions change. That’s compatible with heritability inside groups and still fatal to “race is the main cause.”
>>526807724>Taking and disseminating private citizens' confidential data without permission and misrepresenting it to denigrate their groups was deemed, whatever you think of it, a breach of trust and ethics.Personally identifiable details were removed from the data before it was ever disseminated.So now you're literally saying, like the article>these numbers about genetic differences are PRIVATE INFORMATION goy, only we can use themThis just looks so fucking bad in any scientific sense. Even the article admits the wrongdoing was the "racist" researchers not telling the black families that there was no personally identifiable information in the statistic. That's it. That's the unethical untrustworthy part.
>>526808055>They got permissionFrom the article>Data from the projects has generated hundreds of papers on, among other things, the effects of social media on mental health, genetic links to addiction and the causes of sleep disorders.Do you think every single one of those hundreds of studies got permission from every one of the subjects?
>>526807865I read your post you are arguing that nurture is more important than nature in intelligence it obviously is not would be nice that everybody is an potential Einstein it’s soothing but obviously not real
>>526803460>chuds are furiously arguing with LLM slop about the validity of IQ testingIronic
>>526803460>Correlation does NOT EQUAL CAUSATION!!!No shit faggot. But it’s certainly of interest. At the end of the day, nobody knows what truly contributes to IQ. And in all likelihood it is a complex combination of nature and nurture. That said, there certainly seems to be a genetic component, and race appears to be a factor in that. Hell, even when controlling for income levels of parents, rich niggas perform worse on standardized testing than poor whites.
>>526807400yes, it's WRONGTHINKcan't just look at data without the sociological (pure bullshit ™) kike/nigger adjustmentbad goy, data isn't supposed to speak for itself>>526807584gringos had a study where they put the niggers in a speshul scool, gave it gorillions of dollars, best teachers, best equipment, small classes, lots of individualized educationit failed, and niggers reniggerized the school as soon as possiblemaybe some gringo remembers that debacle off the top of his head, it had a wikishit page and everything
>>526807865oh my hes a Steven Gould Marxist. nooo the africans arent inherently less selected for cognition muh spandreeeeeels
>>526808055>>526808178Parents did consent to their kids being in the ABCD study, and that consent included broad data sharing for research. However, as >>526808183 said, they didn't consent to its sue for what it was sued for, and the NYT's complain hinged not only on that but (as I also said) misrepresenting, misframing, and misusing that data to make points that the researchers don't agree with or support as valid, and which the participants sure didn't sign up for.
>>526808296Sounds like the LeBron James school for Niggers in Ohio. The one that had nigger students murder a white kid
>>526808183They got permission to access the database from the people who control the database. The subjects granted this permission when they agreed to participate in the study. Your arguments are becoming increasingly small-brained.
>>526802719Kek, have a bumo, fren.
>>526808260Nurture being greater than nature as far as population averages go is not the same as saying "everyone is exactly the same apart from nurture, and anyone can be as smart/strong/tall/good at math as everyone else :)"You're strawmanning my argument, which is not one for total assumed equality of all persons and peoples, but an admonishment of lazy hack racist pseudoscience taken for granted while ignoring mountains of evidence that implies it is more complex, multifacated, and less immutable than all that.
>>526808370>we gave them statistics without any personally identifiable information and racists used it to support a different conclusion than the one we wantedThis is not science. This is not the scientific method. This is lunatic social justice, saying everybody must come to the same conclusion or its unethical.
>>526802733Look at this "oh no our agenda has been exposed! Quick discredit the exposers!" Written in 30 different ways.
>>526806841We haven't been that based in ages, bro. It would be funny as fuck tho.
>>526806016Lol seething foid.Or darkie.Post hand and wall outlet.
>>526808508>mountains of evidenceMay we see it?
>>526808508You're one of those people who can read a lot but not understand anything at all because you are inherently incapable of seeing the world objectively.
>>526803460>PGS for IQ explain about 5–6% variance >More than 10% of the variance in intelligence can be predicted by multipolygenic scores derived from GWAS of both intelligence and years of education. This accounts for more than 20% of the 50% heritability of intelligencehttps://www.nature.com/articles/nrg.2017.104Note that you're off by half and the trend is PGS scores getting better over time.
>>526803460>>526803578>Thinks he is an expert on Legal/Judicial text>>526804849>>526805045>Thinks he is an expert in medicine and genetic studyThis is why no one takes you midwits seriously. Its never an argument in good faith. You are just pretending to be an expert and pretending to be good faith.
>>526808508If you could gene edit kids to make them smarter I don't think there would be a meltdown every time someone talks about racial genetics and IQ. It would just quietly get fixed.I happen to think U.S. black culture is anti-intellectual and that there are probably some genetic differences that contribute to intelligence and impulse control. Both of those come together to put blacks in a bad place. It is a simple fact that blacks have smaller brains, and we know brain size and IQ are well linked.Still, it's not so bad. U.S. blacks might be the poorest Americans but they're also the richest Africans.
>>526802719IQ is not real its made up bullshit...if Whites and chinks are so smart why are you so stupid to believe this type of bullshit
>>526802719I don't see any of you lazy Honkeys working at SpaceX, or enrolled in M.I.T lol
>>526808283We know a bunch of stuff that contributed. Race and other genetic factors are a part, but we have no evidence it's an especially large part, and your assertion that >even when controlling for income levels of parents, rich niggas perform worse on standardized testing than poor whitesisn't actually substantiated as widely or consistently as you seem to believe.>>526808595Yes. Here is some to get you started: >>526807724Here is another:Intelligence: new findings and theoretical developments 9https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22233090/)Once you control for parental education, test preparation, neighbourhood, and early childhood variables, the gap shrinks substantially and sometimes disappears in subgroups.Yes, genes matter some. No, the evidence does not support “race is a major causal factor” once you stop using sloppy controls. The “rich blacks still lose” line relies on bad proxies and ignores early-life and cumulative effects that the data show are huge.
>>526808508> everyone is exactly the same apart from nurture, and anyone can be as smart/strong/tall/good at math as everyone else :)"Are you retarded or just arguing in bad faith?
>>526808693because it flatters some people's egos and they have so little else to love or value about themselves.
>>526808508>mountains of evidence
>>526802719they have to attack this kind of thing so vigorously because the entire structure of leftist bullshit depends upon everyone agreeing to obvious lies. so when people step out of line or don't push the narrative, you have to make examples of them else more people will start following suit.
>>526803460lmao everyone niggers are stupid, dont need no study to prove it
>>526802719The funniest part is that the data always shows east Asians are the smartest, not white people, which the researchers have zero issue showing since it's, ya know, the Truth lmao
>>526808260correct you cannot create a geniusthis is why when people point to their degreeand claim they have x IQ as a functionits a bad argumentespecially in the era of jumped up tokenization
>>526808745>Once you control for parental education, test preparation, neighbourhood, and early childhood variables, the gap shrinks substantially and sometimes disappears in subgroups.But all of those things are going to be caused by native genetic IQ. You're controlling out the thing you're actually interested in looking at.
>>526808686Gene editing isn't the solution because it will only widen the gap between the richest and most well-connected people and everyone else, exacerbating existing inequalities.
>>526808745>Once you control for parental education, test preparation, neighbourhood, and early childhood variables, the gap shrinks substantially and sometimes disappears in subgroups.>If you control for IQ proxies the IQ gap shrinks or disappearsNow you're being dishonest.
How evil is judaism?Well all judaism praises Satan by name as part of all normal daily standard practice of judaism. Also the entire structure of Judaism is based around lying to “the cattle” to obtain through deceit and underhand means a living for judaism’s practitioners without working. That’s the entire thing. And how evil are fake news propagandists? They are guilty of all the worst crimes ever committed in human history, it was them.Together with fake politics and the type of filth who attend the WEF cult meets they all need to be brought to justice, banned, convicted and stopped from drawing a breath as free people ever again. Yes black people are different to white people. All peoples are different in many ways.
>>526808783hence, categories like “hate speech”exist to stimy discussionsand make anyone talking about this into a pariah
>>526802719>the data was gathered unethicallyNo. It was gathered ethically. But then used for multiple purposes. As long as you’re taking random samples, valid statistical conclusions can be drawn.>the sample sizes were too smallNot really. IQ is normally distributed. So sample sizes as small as 15-30 should do just fine if the sampling is random and representative. Moreover the conclusions (East Asian > white > black) are consistent with literally every other IQ study that has been conducted. >they invented a category called “USA black”Nobody invented this. It’s a a real category. In fact the left loves to use this category to argue for reparations. Tyrone from inner city Cleveland who’s great great great grandpa was a slave in Alabama is part of a well defined racial category, and is in a different category from Mbogbo Momofubu from Nigeria who has a PhD in fluid mechanics from Harvard and who’s ancestors were chieftains who sold slaves to Portuguese traders. As usual, sophistry is being used to deny reality—and I don’t even know why anymore. Facebook can use our data to determine who has depression and target pharmaceutical ads to them. The government can track who has taken pharmaceutical products and enforce regulations (eg vaccines). Nobody “signed up” for any of this. But god forbid scientists use anonymized data for an IQ study. Any IQ stud showing Jews are smarter? A-OK. Study shows East Asians are smarter than whites? Still white supremacy, somehow.We need reparations for the “USA blacks”, a valid category for this reason. But take that valid category and use it to show a statistically observed IQ difference and this is “unscientific”. Etc.
>>526808508It's black people's nature to not nurture their children as much you dumb faggot. There is no beating nature
>>526805438Please document your paris syndrome upon visiting detroit or buffalo/rochester
>>526808745>>526808826>But all of those things are going to be caused by native genetic IQ. You're controlling out the thing you're actually interested in looking at.It almost seems like the purpose is to disprove the obvious.
>>526808826You've created a causal loop, lol.>blacks are dumb 'cause genes>control for nongenetic factors>but those factors are rooted in genes!>but when we study black people in settings controlling for that, they're still black, but perform more like whites>doesn't count!Come on, anon.
Genetics was stopped from bring a science in the 50’s. At the rise of the UN when the central banks (globo) were consolidating world power. From the shadows. And instigating fake media and fake politics. These are everyone’s enemies. The fraud factory of academia belongs to them.
>>526808839Not automatically. If the price of gene editing came down, then gene editing to maximize intelligence can be provided as a part of free public healthcare. That's a political choice.Anyway, even if the gap between the rich and the poor does get wider, that doesn't make the poor worse off. That's a lazy socialist argument. It's better for the rising tide to lift all boats even if some lift higher than others. Intelligence is a good thing in itself.
>>526802755KEK they just casually report that Mamdami lied about his race to get ahead.
>>526802733I can't read it on mobile.
>>526808846It's almost like IQ has more to do with those things which you call proxies than with just ethnicity or genetics.
>>526807158Those paki pedos aren't the ones in charge, Ivan.
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>>526808693>(Thing i don't like) is not real its made up bullshit
>>526802719I think it's pretty obvious to anyone who interacted with black people that they're more likely to be much dumber. Why everyone is ignoring that, I don't know.
>>526809017> If the price of gene editing came down, then gene editing to maximize intelligence can be provided as a part of free public healthcareLook man, I'm a filthy lib and even I think that is an unrealistically utopian outcome.>Anyway, even if the gap between the rich and the poor does get wider, that doesn't make the poor worse off.it does if it limits their sovereignty, autonomy, self-determination, and station.>Intelligence is a good thing in itself.Yeah, but a hostile intelligence is bad for the target.
>>526808986No, the causal loop already exists in nature.There are no natural settings which control genetic effects because culture and environment are caused by genetics. How would you demonstrate that a human was smarter than a chimpanzee?
>>526808693These were CT scans, not IQ tests.
>>526808283but remember, it'll be fine if you add 300 years of historical slavery and segregation so it's IQ+15(pooh nigga) pointstake that to heart, live, learn, laugh, become less racist (by being racist to these ignorant demihumans pretending they're the same)>>526808377nah it was some public experiment with public moneyhttps://www.businessinsider.com/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-education-initiative-failure-2018-6but there's more and more where that came fromthey try and try and maybe someday they'll make the niggs smart if they gibs enough dinero
>>526808950This is a just-so story that you have created out of lazy contempt, and maintain to make yourself feel better about your own low station.
>>526808986Ok then why can any white out-compete any random nigger in IQ as a white person?
>>526809154>There are no natural settings which control genetic effects because culture and environment are caused by genetics. And yet we have evidence of people being adopted into a group and performing more akin to members of that group than their genetic cohort. Doesn't happen with chimps, but DOES happen with nonwhites (including blacks). Curious!
>>526809127>Look man, I'm a filthy lib and even I think that is an unrealistically utopian outcome.We already do that on the NHS for some genetic diseases. If gene editing for intelligence becomes cheap, the case would be there.>it does if it limits their sovereignty, autonomy, self-determination, and station.Raising someone's IQ is good for all those things. If the rich have kids that are IQ 160 and the poor have kids that are "only" IQ 110 that will still stop the poor kids from committing crimes and getting into debt.
>>526809187>This is a just-so story that you have created out of lazy contempt,Okay but enough about your own posting habits
>>526809208They can't. That's not what population averages mean.
>>526809018
>>526809251>sheeeeeeeit, it be dem socio-economic factors, mafugga!
>>526809251>And yet we have evidence of people being adopted into a group and performing more akin to members of that group than their genetic cohort. Yet transracial adoption doesn't show blacks can become white in IQ. Also, adopted blacks are still black, and they'll be likely to absorb black culture. Adoptive parents are also not a random sample. I'm pointing out the limits of claims you can make that there are natural experiments here.
>>526807724> Black students who are immigrant-origin earn significantly higher high school grades and persist in college at higher rates than their U.S.-origin black peers. This suggests migration/selection effects and environment matter.If “Africa” was not massively diverse and skin color was the only variable that defined groups for the purposes of IQ differences, then yes. But there are different ethnic groups in Africa, and descendants of slaves in America are a different group from African immigrants today.> black infants adopted by upper-middle-class white families scored IQ 110 at age 7, above the American white average.And what is the average for upper middle class whites? You need apples to apples, my friend. > Black immigrant children close most or all of the black-white test score gap when controlling for parental education and background.“Black immigrants” are a selected group, not a random sample of blacks. Moreover, they are likely from ethnic groups that differ from the Africans brought as slaves. > selective secondary schools in Trinidad and Tobago produce scores comparable to Southern European countries.So the smartest black from the Caribbean are as smart as the dumbest version of whites? Cool story.
>>526809260Gene editing for intelligence would start expensive, and then there would be no incentive for the uber upgraded elites to share it with filthy plebs, and many good reasons not to.>Raising someone's IQ is good for all those things. If the rich have kids that are IQ 160 and the poor have kids that are "only" IQ 110 that will still stop the poor kids from committing crimes and getting into debt.Yes, but in a future defined by programmable genetics for the few, and abundant automation, it's cheaper and easier to let the poor die on the vine than uplift them.Right here and now, we know we can raise the IQ of low-IQ social and ethnic groups with improved health, sanitation, nutrition, education, and reduced pollution. And we don't instead, we have this thread, and policies informed by the same lay anti-intellectual ostracism of the outgroup."Niggers are just dumb lol" is how the rich and powerful think about us all.
articles like this are specifically created so AI will take it and all the other carbon copy articles from lesser papers/websites into account in order to help dispute people who ask AI about obvious IQ differences between races
>>526809267Kek you're seriously clueless.Imagine being surrounded by the entire third world and not just thinking but truly fucking believing they are all smarter than you because you selectively filtered all opposition to the contrary. Midwits are a plague.
>>526809359Oh yeah, I bet the bus thing was the worst thing that happened to blacks in the past or present, for sure. lol
>>526806016Black's best idea, the best idea of all of the admintrators of the study, is that enrichment is more cargo cult. Again we need other races to help notice what the most upwardly promotable blacks remain blind to.
It's funny how people have the misconception that our ancestors were considered dumb just because they were primitive, when in reality they constantly had to keep adapting and creating tools just to survive. I never understood why racist white men in particular put so much stock into the IQ argument, while the majority of them are mediocre in academia. Don't tell me blacks have a low IQ when Nigerian, Indian, and Chinese students are running circles around you whites in math scores. Take the black man's penis out of the cock holster you call a mouth. Lmaooo
EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP LISTENING. Stopping being used by them means stopping using TV, media, big tech. There is no other way forward. People are like pippin or the steward of gondor peering into the palantir for insight, bu it’s run by sodding Sauron. All they are going to get is mind raped. All you’ve got from watching TV is physically brain damaged. All you’ve got from msm like that sinister fucking jewspaper is brainwashing. All you get from big tech is tricked, used, spied on and replaced by ai. Lied at. In the end lifes better without it. On my top end smart TV in my bedroom (I am getting up now i have to dinner at 5) - pic. That’s all i use my tv’s for, that and the internet.this ones very smart. It does ambilights and talks, it’s fucking ace. But i don’t watch programming and since i just found out watching TV causes physical brain damage I feel pretty good about that. Life without their voices = relief. They are satanic. Lost. Evil. The enemy.
>>526808079>for most human complex traits the genetic variance shows up largely as additive in practice, even when biology has interactions.that makes no sense and is literally wrong. its clear youve never created a GWAS model. i have, so stfu you first year undergrad brownoid.> That’s why additive polygenic scores keep being the workhorse: they capture most predictable signal, and interaction-heavy models rarely add much in real-world prediction without insane sample sizesno, the point is that you cant do normal statistical analyses with an accurate model because youll never reject the null hypothesis.>The epistasis literature is full of “it’s pervasive” plus “it still generates mostly additive variance.”brainlet>The specific “common variant explains race IQ” hype has been tested and comes up empty in normal populations. Thats not what I said. Go take some study drug and try again. >One study literally fucking titled “No evidence that polymorphisms of brain regulator genes Microcephalin and ASPM are associated with general mental ability, head circumference or altruism”literally revisionism. an MRI study found common alleles tied to a larger cortex and a chinese study found a rare allele increased brain volume 7%done arguing with you. youre just some 115 iq kid with either some ethnic grievance due to being non white or severely low testosterone. git gud.
based studious nigga (respectful and brotherly beause i didn't use the er) solo dabbing on egopilled conflictmaxxers. read the article but mentally checked out when i saw dinesh d'souza's name and can't be bothered to write anything, because fundamentally i've given up on "human beings". anon wrote earlier that this will all be quietly forgotten following the emergence of reliable genetic editing, and he might be correct, but it's more likely that tech will be sequestered by global elites to ensure their lineages continue to disproportionately benefit from the scarcity grift. maybe retards will be able to visit a medical tourism hotspot where the tech is enveloped in pro-economy legalese. ideally, though? everyone will burn in nuclear hellfire and i, alone, will be the last surviving anon.
>>526803026Joe Biden (Democrat puppet) put that stupid ape in the supreme court.
>>526803460That's a whole lot of words to try to get us to pretend that niggers as a whole aren't dumber than whites despite the studies. We've done our work to prove our claim, all you have is what about ism and cope.
>>526809431>If “Africa” was not massively diverse and skin color was the only variable that defined groups for the purposes of IQ differences, then yes. But there are different ethnic groups in Africa, and descendants of slaves in America are a different group from African immigrants today.But those immigrants often also perform better than the populations they emerged from befroe immigrating.>“Black immigrants” are a selected group, not a random sample of blacks. Moreover, they are likely from ethnic groups that differ from the Africans brought as slaves. True! Just goes to show there's nuance within and between groups.>And what is the average for upper middle class whites? You need apples to apples, my friend. Not really. Only if I wanted to prove or argue for perfect racial parity, whcih is not my position. The worst case scenario here is that, to make your average black perform better than your average white they need to have slightly better circumstances than a socio-economically equivalent white. That would make them disadvantaged, but not profoundly or irreparably.>So the smartest black from the Caribbean are as smart as the dumbest version of whites? Cool story.That wasn't the finding, but even if it was, it (along with the rest) paints a picture of nurture playing a big role, perhaps bigger than nature, and that the worst complaints about blacks as a group rest on very fixable factors that are non-genetic.
>>526809470Smarter than me? When did I say that?
>>526802719siants be racists n shieet
>40 posts by this ID
>>526809434You seek reasonable. I applaud your desire to cut through back and white thinking with shades of grey. But understand that if we don’t admit some basic facts about IQ differences we will be tilting at windmills with ineffective racial policies forever. All citizens of our respective countries deserve the opportunities afforded by education if they can earn it. All children deserve a rich and nurturing environment. But just as we shouldn’t freak out when Ruijian Chen, a 5’8” Chinese boy, or Jacob Schmuli, a 5’6” Jewish boy, don’t get into the NFL, we should get our panties in a bunch when Tyrone Washington doesn’t make the chess team or get into the MIT math department.
>>526809434>Gene editing for intelligence would start expensive, and then there would be no incentive for the uber upgraded elites to share it with filthy plebs, and many good reasons not to.My dude, women want the best possible babies. They are unashamed about being fans of eugenics. Have you ever looked at a sperm bank brochure? It lists IQ, height, accomplishments. As soon as gene editing for smarts becomes conceivable it will be everywhere.It's a technology like any other, and the cost always comes down. The GDP advantage would be obvious and any country with public health would come to see letting "natural" low-IQ babies be born as a harm. People are expensive. It makes no sense not to maximize their potential and as the stigma against eugenics after WW2 is vanishing we will do this. >Right here and now, we know we can raise the IQ of low-IQ social and ethnic groups with improved health, sanitation, nutrition, education, and reduced pollution.In rich countries those groups have plenty of opportunities already, the problem is their culture, which is anti-education. Also for some populations cousin marriage.What you'd actually need to raise these populations environmental IQ factors is commit a cultural genocide. In the case of US blacks, eradicate the whole "acting white" stigma and forcibly put the entire black population in either prison or military school. Since there are 40 million of them and this would cause a civil war it's a non starter.
>>526803460>and mostly break outside EuropeansAre you saying that there's something fundamentally different about the brains of Europeans compared to other races? I wonder what that would be?
>>526809021Tap and hold and select open in new window. At the end of the URL you will see m.jpg at the very end. Remove the “m” and replace it with “sneed” and you should be good to go
>>526809522People who lack individual achievements obsess over group ones. unable to improve their own status, they slavishly must maintain their group's hegemony so they have someone to look down upon. That sense of superiority must be fixed and unchangeable, too; if lower order people can surpass them someday, the insecurity rears its ugly ahead anew.
>>526809665>those immigrants often also perform better than the populations they emerged fromGee I wonder why those outliers had the idea to leave in the first place.
>>526809573The only thing hes good at studying is how to argue online.>Solo dabbingDude he has all the sources for the argument lined up, memorized the party lines, and hasnt stopped after being BTFO multiple times for misrepresenting the data.Its a paid shill whose " topic expertise " centers around IQ. Even the journals he cited have clear cognitive bias.Sorry you cant recognize the shilling.IQ doesnt mean you're barred from doing great things but this leaf definitely is because his entire life is centered around protecting the heckin minorities from evil IQ studies.
>>526809567>everything I don't like is literally revisionism>studies by people with better credentials and more experience than me are invalid because the person posting them is an undergrad>uh, uuuhhh, you're brown!!Stirring dissertation, professor.
>>526808747we're all the same height, the same speed, the same color if you measure from the sun's perspectivethus, our benevolent socialist gods observe us, as EQUALS>>526808576rancheras and polkas and mountain dancing and country music and corridos side by sidehats, from cowboy to charro, from cuatro pedradas to pork piespants and skirts, tassles and frills, monster trucks and low ridersall together to see, the americas are OURS nowhehe
>>526803460>30+ posts>No single hard STEM response for FST variations in concerns for allele markers that signal for intelligence >Nigger probably won't have hard STEM response to niggers having high MAOA amounts >All data provided so far is soft sciences papers with several reproducibility issues It's always fun seeing faggots twist and turn themselves for a race of people that never evolved past mud huts, meaning they don't give a shit nor can comprehend your virtue signaling.
>>526809039Headstart program fail, so more education doesn't lead to IQ gains. Now, if you then control for "parental education" you are controlling for parental IQ.
>>526809665Nurture plays a role. And it would make sense for race to play a role as well. Why wouldn’t it? It plays a role in virtually every other dimension we ca measure. Vertical jump, explosive strength, ability to mentally rotate images, waste to hip ratio, propensity for certain diseases. Race is a real thing so it has real effects. Is your point simply that the racial differences ma not be as big as some of these studies are saying? If so, why does that really matter here? The broader point is that we should not pursue ineffective racialized policies if unnecessary. A better approach is to address mediating factors without reference to race (eg poverty, access to education, healthcare, etc)
>>526809434so is your mom white? do you ever wonder where you'd be in life if your dad was white too? must be weird being so close but so far>>526809522seething brownoid
>>526809621>niggers as a whole aren't dumber than whitesOn average, sure, but not necessarily intrinsically or forever. The bulk of the gap is likely not genetic based on available evidence. The only reason to assume it is, and to discount efforts to remedy the situation, are selfish ego and spite, not science or "realism."
>>526809788All of your claims are unfounded. Immigrants work harder than the host population, those who worry about race don't have good achievements etc. It's all bullshit. It does happen but to pretend like highly intelligent people don't know that niggers are basically a different species is ridiculous .. they merely play along with the jewish myths because they want to remain successful in a Jewish tyrannical system. I can be successful and still be pissed off that faggots tell me I have to hire stupid niggers when I'd prefer a white only company.
>>526803460>>526803578>>526803949This poster is one of the few remaining white Canadians and real humans posting here. While 2016 tourists use "ranjeet" as their little way to downvote you, the is they're just as bad as any retard who drinks polarizing poison while thinking they're informing themselves. At least you're trying to discuss the topic; if someone really hates niggers, jews, and their consequences, that person should be especially cautious that they don't make the same mistakes. Niggers are plenty dumb to make well informed cases against their inclusion in the west, without misrepresenting (or worse, fabricating) things.
>>526809701>You seek reasonable.He is not reasonable at all. Stupid at best, dishonest at worst.
>>526809825>why do poor people move to nice neighbourhoods with more opportunities?Probably not because of intrinsic genetic superiority to their neighbours.
>>526809788Don't have to be insecure or actively look down on blacks to know they are low iq animals much of the time. Its a simple observation experienced though life experience or seen in data, its been a terrible mistake to treat them with kid gloves these past 60 years.
>>526809039If only it were ethical to try to prove it. Oh well, I guess we'll never know!
>>526809677So are you tacitly admitting that you dont believe the shit you are shilling?Because just a few seconds ago you were arguing about how immigrants from "lower average IQ countries" are higher IQ when they come to first world countries with more resources.But somehow they arent smarter than you.
>>526810089>The bulk of the gap is likely not genetic based on available evidence.Again, you are either stupid or dishonest.
>>526809701>But just as we shouldn’t freak out when Ruijian Chen, a 5’8” Chinese boy, or Jacob Schmuli, a 5’6” Jewish boy, don’t get into the NFL, we should get our panties in a bunch when Tyrone Washington doesn’t make the chess team or get into the MIT math department.That's fine. I don't dispute that. If Tyrone Washington's brother Jamal actually seems pretty bright, thoguh, we shouldn't write him off as "lol, dumb nigger" and keep him out of the gifted program or science departments.
>>526810132>>526810149
>>526809744I'm saying the studies show more malleability there, which could be intrinsic or could be due to larger sample sizes and more variable conditions among white populations in the area being studied.
>>526810149But we already do know. If you do a quick google and look at the evidence the fact IQ is heritable and mostly genetic becomes apparent.
>>526810089It IS genetic, we have a continent of undisturbed niggers who were barely meddled with as our evidence. They simultaneously have the most natural resources and have the lowest instances of technological advances of anywhere in the world. It is absolutely genetic. Even the Harvard niggers you see coming out of college aren't smarter than the average white.
>>526802755>>526802733Checked and checked.Streisand Effect. These fuckers are guaranteeing everyone reads about this now.>Well wait a minute>What do you mean? Why isn't that valid?
>>526806616>You literally haven't read a single thing in here, all of which prove you're fucking retarded and need to go back>"Y'all just dun liek readin'!"
>>526802733>>526802755They'll bend themselves into quantum tunnel loops trying to pretend genetics aren't real, while also praising blacks for being black and condemning Whites for being White, which automatically implies genetic differences. They'll do anything they can to pretend genetics dictate IQ, while simultaneously saying Whites are genetically evil. And that's when they're not praising jews for having a "high verbal-IQ".So genetics are totally real when they want to hate you with them. Then genetics aren't real when they need to defend a narrative.
>>526810090>nazi flag>doesn't understand how species work>universalizing conspiracy allows anon to ignore any countervailing evidenceWhy a good sieg heil to you to, my mentally handicapped companion.
>>526810089>efforts to remedy the situationYou mean by fostering the conditions that higher IQ populations naturally create for themselves?
>>526802755>>526802733Powerful, now I trust the science
>>526810304>a continent of undisturbed niggers who were barely meddled withLol, where? You sure don't mean Africa.
>>526806751Rotating shapes in space.Phantasia.>>526806962Scans from before during and after pubescence. Percent area of activation compared to size correlating with anything you think?What about the mirror test gatekeeping self awareness until 6 in blacks? >>526807057Magic SoilMagic BloodMagic Thinking>>526807230Concrete jungle is a worse plantation, ask JLP. Left tards are modernist cargo cultists and try to act like they have found religion when they don't understand any previous decade in history.
>>526804015It doesn’t matter because Indians are clearly cheating hereThere is not world map showing them being the smartest at anything anywhere
>>526810276Oh no you're racist!
>>526810418There are NO stats showing Indians as being geniuses anywhere ever
>>526810149Whoever said that should be shot in the head. The point of science is to find the truth, ethics doesn't matter. It's not like nigger kids were hurt taking the tests. Science is learning the truth, regardless of the outcome. Kill these pseudoscientist faggots.
>>526810137The bottom line is this: if you are walking down the street in an area you are not really familiar with and you are with your wife and children, and you see a group of 3 black guys walking down the street, you cross the street and get out of their way. You don’t do this if you see 3 frat guys. You might give them a wide berth. But you wouldn’t get sweaty palms an be on high alert. And anyone who wants to call me racist is more than welcome to. I’m not sacrificing my kids wellbeing to look good to some fat lesbian with a nose ring.
>>526810276The guy is posting with several different IPs. Its either one guy or several from some other community. You can see the writing style is very inorganic and self referential. Literally someone with an ulterior agenda, maybe a jew or half white person etc.
>>526809788Earlier you touted classical commie talking points about universal equality, now you're pulling a fast one with classical liberal everyone is special nonsense.People, these guys don't have a conscience. They say whatever because they are slimy snakes that are trying to wriggle around your mind anyway they can to squeeze the mental life out of you.Don't be fooled: he is either a Jew or a witless golem, and actively working to sabotage you. His arguments are shallow lies. Just look at the world around you.
>>526810409Off how smart populations, like Finns, South Koreans, etc, managed to quickly move from poverty to first world status, while sub-Saharan never do no matter how much money is thrown at them. Some inherent difference, what could it be?
>>526810151No, not at all..being surrounded by the entire third world and not just thinking but truly fucking believing they are all smarter than youis very different from acknowledging that some of them are smarter than me, and that the differences (where they exist) are likely not only or primarily intrinsic and unchangeable on a genetic basis. it isn't racist or lay to acknowledge ethnic gaps. It's racist and lazy to shrug and say "lol, i guess theyr'e just like that!", and it's especially racist/lazy to ignore evidence to the contrary.
>>526810137>>526810490Your anxieties are not my lived reality.
>>526809788>>526807518>>526805916told you this faggot would do thishehehee!
>>526810523exactly its someone quite cynical lol who gives off major seething at white people signals
>>526810409Yes. Overall, they are undisturbed. Sure, some jews own Debeers and harvest their resources, but this should not affect their ability to create roads, infrastructure, plumbing, electricity etc. They are poor because they are mentally incapable of escaping poverty because they are low IQ niggers. Every foreign interaction Africa has SHOULD have improved their technology and advancements but they are STILL dumb niggers in mud huts.
>>526810409You're right, Africa got lots of help from the rest of the world.
>>526810490>The bottom line is this: if you are walking down the street in an area you are not really familiar with and you are with your wife and children, and you see a group of 3 black guys walking down the street, you cross the street and get out of their way.If they're wearing suits and look like they're going to or from church, I wouldn't worry.If they look like road men, then I would, yes.
>>526810212No one is keeping Jamal out of the gifted group though. Every institution in America is scrambling for blacks to join their gifted group and will use any means to justify having Jamal in there even if he’s not gifted. What we are dealing with in North America and the anglosphere generally is th exact opposite problem of keeping Jamal out: dumb policies informed by the idea that every racial difference is a sign of racism. The presence of more Asians in the gifted groups completely wipes out the idea that racism is keeping Jamal out out. Systemic hangovers from slavery MAY be imitating Jamal’s early childhood. But probably not as much as you think. Chinese immigrants went through some serious shit too and they seem to be able to hack it.
>>526809788Ah yes. The behavior of your typical Yakubian. >WE HAVE A HIGH IQ, WE HAVE SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY So will you take responsibility for the oil spills, Nuclear Warfare, and mass production of plastic, all of which is destroying the planet?>WHAT!? SHUT UP NIGGER!This is how they are. Lmaoooo
>>526810526But that isn't borne out by the Black diaspora, nor all Africans. For that matter, you provide a pretty good counterexample, ironically: Finns and South Koreans and Chinese, taken as a snapshot in time at a low point historically, would be seen as backwards and hopeless peoples given to primitivism. WE saw that in how people talked of the Chinese and treated them in the 1900s. Then their GDP went up by 30x and their IQ jumped and now, while they're not popular on this site, I think most reasonable anons could agree that the general perception of them (and their IQ score, and their economic performance, and their construction projects, and and and, etc.) have improved pretty immensely in a shorter span of time than genetics alone can possibly account for.But for NIGERIANS? Who they were roughly on par with in the 60s? Some scholars of /pol/ would say impossible, they are a degenerate subhuman species different from our own!Dumb. Dumb, lazy, and rooted in fragile ego and historical illiteracy.
>>526810759>Chinese immigrants went through some serious shit too and they seem to be able to hack it.Maybe because what happened before they were born, even before their parent were born, doesn't affect their IQ at all.
>>526810756Of course other variables matter. But race is one of the variables that matters
>>526803460>Head bobbling intensifies >Saars, genetics is irrelevant us Indians are true Aryans>Shovels cow dung down gullet for 45+ posts>Dies of dysentery Lol, LMAO even.Science is doing a bank run on all of India izzat. All jeets soon to be confirmed non-human. After all the jeet genetic data is easy to get from all the attempts of jeets to manufacture out of India theory.
only asians (china first, then japan, korea) are civilized people. everybody else (jeets, nigs, yankees, europoors) are barbarians
>>526810756well I ain't afraid of these either
>>526810523I believe in equality of opportunityand equality of dignity, not perfect equality of all individual person's outcomes or abilities. You're mistaking nuance and a lack of ideological purity for "a fast one." There is no contradiction, you have just caricatured my argument in your head. I only believe writing off whole ethnic groups as doomed in spite of scientific evidence and without even trying to improve their lot is lazy and moronically bankrupt.
>>526807335Blacks need to graduate from a jail plantation first. Plantation conditions were much better for blacks and our current system is cheaper and more productive.These black populations exist to serve an elite class of blacks control of city governments amd courts in order to get paid the big soros bucks. These blacks have no ties to the pavement or the land. They are reverse carpet-baggers, moved in to scab and ruin the power of white labor IN THE 1970's from their southern pastoral bumpkin heritage. They are now being replaced themselves, the real estate scam completed generationally. The Black Leaders know that blacks are rarely redeemable and that better conditions do not ever produce more better blacks.
>>526810883>bootyblasted that blacks have smaller brains on averageStop projecting.
>>526810742>Overall, they are undisturbed.Historically illiterate Nazi. Many such cases. It's fundamental to the ideology.
>>526810612Your lived experience is irrelevant when we have crime stats. You’re also welcome to test out your theory and let your kids wander in a black neighborhood.
>>526810883The huge, obvious, difference between Finns/South Koreans and sub-Saharans is that the former managed to build first world nations while sub-Saharan Africa is still a backwater and shows no signs of improving, even their GDP per capita decreasing. You ignore these obvious facts because you are either dumb or dishonest.
>>526810999watching yankees and europoors destroy their own "empire" in real time is hilarious. completely uncivilized people, truly. 1800-2020s will be remembered as a blip in history
>>526810562So youre backpedalling now.>ignoring evidencePot calling the kettle black.>it isn't racist or lay to acknowledge ethnic gaps. It's racist and lazy to shrug and say "lol, i guess theyr'e just like that!", and it's especially racist/lazy to ignore evidenceYou and I both know thats not what the party thinks.The party doesnt see difference in race. Therefore its racist to admit an ethnic gap in anything.You cant rewrite the rules. You can try to win but you failed to represent your half in an honest and pallatable way.The crux of your argument is a gish gallop on studies and journals you barely understand, with flawed methodology.The rest of your posts are you desperately trying to prove yourself right.Its truly pathetic that you sat in a thread for 2 hours typing essays to racists to try and change our minds by lying to us.Consider a more fulfilling career alternative.
>>526811112>1800-2020s will be remembered as a blip in historyOnly by idiots and dishonest scholars.
>>526810612>Your anxieties are not my lived reality.No on e gives a fuck about you projection filled, laughably delusional reality you <60 IQ reddit faggot, KYS.
Lastly. I wanted to say eugenics is good and the way to go. We could fix everything over the course of a few generations. Everyone could be born strong, healthy, intelligent, and beautiful but the jews in charge decide not to because they love prolonging human misery. Most arguments against eugenics don't matter because everyone in the future will be born to the highest human standard possible. If you are too much of a low iq faggot to set aside your personal sense of self and do what is better going forward for humanity as a whole you are an evil inbred kike.
>>5268111611800-2020s will be taught as a global-scale ponzi scheme which the middle kingdom heroically dismantled
>>526811029This type of determinism is a defacto ethno-state
>>526811088You did nothing to argue against my point besides call me illiterate. This is what kikes do when they lose debates and keep pushing their shit that even they know is false.
>>526810893Chinese immigrants face a lot of obstacles. Poverty. Language barriers. Bullying (often by blacks). Many grow up in the same crime ridden areas as blacks. Somehow they have the ability to keep in tact families and get through school. The reality is, even if past racism is what led to blacks current state, the nature of the problem is such that only they can pull themselves out of it. Nobody is going to not put a black in prison for murder. Nobody is going to not fail a black for doing poorly on a test. Nobody is going to not fire a black for not showing up. Regardless of the past, the future is up to you. That should be our message to blacks. We will not hinder them with racism policies. But we can’t change the rules of the game for them either.
>>526810759>No one is keeping Jamal out of the gifted group though.Social mobility in America is very low for all ethnic groups, and some ethnic groups are grouped more in lower strata. Combine those two factors and, yes, Jamal may ot be getting a fair shake. Worse, Jamal may show early promise brought down by his shitty neigjbourhood and toxic air and water (correlated especially heavily with the poorest, and among the poor with nonwhite, communities).>Every institution in America is scrambling for blacks to join their gifted group and will use any means to justify having Jamal in there even if he’s not gifted. Woke's dead, bud. DEI is bad now.>The presence of more Asians in the gifted groups completely wipes out the idea that racism is keeping Jamal out out. Only if you assume parity among every nonwhite group's experience, background, and living conditions across generations and in the present. Asian-Americans don't tend to live in shitty toxic redlined areas, tend to come from wealthier communities of recent immigrants, and these days benefit from an assumption of competence and capability which is the opposite of what Jamal the Hypothetical Poor But Smart Black Kid experiences, as evidence by this very discussion.
>>526810863lol. NoI is a crock, though.
>>526811199The reality is white men claim to have "superior technology". But keep finding a way to destroy the environment and other human beings with it. LolI'm gonna get a sandwich, probably the only white invention worthwhile.
>>526811257The never-before seen wealth and explosion in scientific progress will be seen as a ponzi scheme? The average person in the West lives better than kings in the middle ages.
>>526811315> Asian-Americans don't tend to live in shitty toxic redlined areas, tend to come from wealthier communities of recent immigrants, and these days benefit from an assumption of competence and capability which is the opposite of what Jamal the Hypothetical Poor But Smart Black Kid experiences, as evidence by this very discussion.Literally not true for Chinese and south Asian immigrants who climbed the social latter in the 70s
>>526810863>Nigger talking about taking responsibility for anything ever.Lol, lmao even.
>>526811314>The reality is, even if past racism is what led to blacks current stateIt didn't. Blacks have the same problems in Europe despite many them being recent immigrants..
>>526809788so true twin I can't wait to be replaced in my own homeland it's just the decent thing to do what a time to be alive
>>526811124>You and I both know thats not what the party thinks.I don't care what the party thinks. I am not obligated to ape ideological purity when arguing why pure hereditarian arguments for genetic determinism and "race realism" are unscientific, asinine, lazy, or amoral.>The crux of your argument is a gish gallopBro, I'm arguing rapidly with dozens of 4chan randos. This is not a structured debate.
>>526811394>Muh Hedonic Adjustments!>You will own nothing and be happy!
>>526811401Also not true for Jews living in ghettos. Or Irish in crime ridden NYC. Policies to help blacks have been applied time and time again. And it never helps. The biggest issue is crime. And the left doesn’t want to solve that problem. 2% of black men are creating a major nuisance for 99% of the black population, and the one thing that could fix that (aggressive policing) is considered racist. Go figureActually it’s because of thinking like this Canadian.
>>526811104> while sub-Saharan Africa is still a backwater and shows no signs of improving, even their GDP per capita decreasingSyechelles is a near-top HDI country and has pretty high GDP-per-capita. Botswana has seen huge long-run growth since the 1990s. Cabo Verde is still poor, but has seen steady improvements for decades, and huge upswings relative to the 90s, too. Rwanda had a notably catastrophic baseline, but still, it sure ain't decreasing in GDP, HDI, or any other metric.As far as average intelligence, Kenya showed one of the clearest examples of the Flynn effect on cognitive testing. In the wider diaspora, Dominica has show a lot of promise.
>>526805439These White cucks are even worse than jews. At least jews are openly enemies, and admit they view themselves as superior. These White cucks are something else, who the fuck really thinks blacks are as smart as Japs and Euros?
>>526811199Actually, many people seem to care about the opinions and experiences of people like me, much to your dismay. :)
>>526811652>2% of black men are creating a major nuisanceIt's way more than 2%. If I remember correctly almost 1 in 3 has commited a felony.
>>526811290How so?
>>526802733gooks are the master race confirmed
>>526811300Whereas all you do is call me a kike. Why would I waste time on you, lol? This is all you get: short, dismissive replies, because it's all you will return to me.
Over 50 posts of logical inversions, begging the question and contrivances. The leaf is not helping the cause by nickel and diming every normal observation.The argument of the cause is simply supported by the genetic record that all people on this earth are more similar than not.No use in denying that technological societies have emphasized trust.Societies have also gone against evolutionary means by embracing and rewarding intelligence.Intelligence in the grand scheme of things makes you a freak, because society will always be behind the latest autistic two eyed cocktail, that an increasingly dwindling amount of white or asian women gather the gumption to squeeze out of their narrowing cunts.
>>526811497The big brained argument is against genetic theory itself. I'm afraid you're probably too comfortable amidst the fabricated intellectual architecture to really start thinking though.
>>526811394>The average person in the West lives better than kings in the middle ages.In terms of material possessions, maybe.
>>526811401True, but today's stats aren't entirely based on those groups, and those groups still had a different experience over the last few decades, and prior to arrival, versus blacks. As has been pointed out in this thread, recent African transplants perform better in general than native-born African-American blacks, or other slave-descended groups who form longstanding social underclasses.
>>526808260>nurture is more important than nature in intelligenceIs this unironically a contested topic on pol? Common fucking sense should tell you this is the case
>>526807263Sterilization is unethical and it is unlikely many will do so voluntarily. but many will use genius sperm voluntarily and eagerly. There is a math professor that donated to many black women, for example. Black women love the idea.After a couple generations, black genes will be sufficiently diluted so that they won't be antisocial.
>>526811495I'm not against a white ethnostate existing, in theory. It's just they all seem to be founded on ideals of imperial resource-hoarding for resources, an unjustified sense of exceptionalism, and contemptuous animosity towards everyone else on spurious bases.
>>526802719I am sure everybody involved on all sides is biased. If research is done showing blacks inherently do worse, it will be used in the worst way possible. If it is forbidden to do such research people will say its societies fault if blacks do worse, even though it MAY not be (and use that for political purposes against the system <- you are here).If people stop misusing statistics (and generalising incorrectly from a statistic to an individual), maybe good politics can follow. Using race to determine intelligence will always be too high in error to deal with individuals (especially when more accurate tests are available).
>>526811497>so called Subject expert shill suddenly backpedals on ideology>despite arguing ideologically for the entire thread>now 360 Replies in, page 10, leaffag is still trying to reform /pol/>doesnt deny he is paid for this>doesnt deny he is a kikeTruly unimaginably pathetic.
>>526811652>Policies to help blacks have been applied time and time again. And it never helps.No, we saw marked improvements along many metrices.>the one thing that could fix that (aggressive policing) is considered racist. Go figureYeah man, people react badly when a hegemonic ethnic group that looks down on them subordinates their people and polices them from the outside. So would you. That's a normal way to feel. It doesn't help that the war on drugs was used, rather infamously, to abduct and incarcerate non-violent offenders for cheap prison slave-labour.
>>526811765You don't remember correctly, especially not if you stick to actual violent offences.
>>526811888Yeah, you're right, I believe genetics exist.
>>526802733>Mainstream geneticists have rejected their work as biased and unscientific.On what grounds?>Grok has referred users to the research more than two dozen times this month alone.Wow. Two dozen times? That's like, a lot of times.
>>526812121It;s not a backpedal just because you constructed a generic "progressive liberal" argument in your head, assumed I held those beliefs, and then I did not.
>>526812058This is a pretty good take.
Excuse me faggot leaf, I have an announcement to make.I FUCKING HATE NIGGERS.NIGGERS ARE LOW IQ.NIGGERS STINK AND SMELL AWFUL.NIGGERS ARE DISGUSTING.NIGGERS ARE DOPE DEALING GUN SLINGING MURDERERS.
>>526812121Also, lol, why would I bother denying I'm a paid kike or whatever? Nobody who believes that would be like "oh jeez, well he said he's not, I guess I take it back and believe him now." What a stupid/disingenuous ask.
>>526812453Cool.
>>526809788You're definitely jewish. Kill yourself nigger lover.
>>526812514Shan't!
>>526802733>>526802755If it the results were the other way around i 100% believe this article would be celebrating the study. You whites cant catch a break
>>526811723>Syechelles is a near-top HDI country and has pretty high GDP-per-capita. Mixed-race country which lives on tourism. >Botswana has seen huge long-run growth since the 1990s.GDP per capita decreased from 2023 to 2024:https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Botswana/gdp_per_capita_ppp/>Cabo VerdePart white population and their progress will inevitably stall.>RwandaGDP per capita around 1k, poorest of poor. At that low level they can still make some progress.>KenyaAverage IQ of 75, and it shows. Anyway, GDP per capita in sub-Saharan Africa peaked in 2014 btw, and decreased from 2022 to 2023.https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/ssf/sub-saharan-africa/gdp-per-capita"Sub-Saharan Africa GDP per capita for 2023 was $1,623, a 3.88% decline from 2022"You ignored this fact because you are either dumb or dishonest.
>Asians are lower IQ than Nig-ACK!!!
>>526812187>https://news.uga.edu/total-us-population-with-felony-convictions/"People with felony convictions more broadly account for 8 percent of the overall population and 33 percent of the African-American male population."Oh what do you know, I did remember correctly. You are, once again, either dumb or dishonest.
>Niggers are sma-ACK!!!
>>526812226>I believeThat's not scientific.
>>526812590>Mixed-race country which lives on tourism. Still Subsaharan, still has a huge black population, the black population still does well.>GDP per capita decreased from 2023 to 2024A one-year blip in a general upward trend for decades does not invalidate eh argument.>Part white population and their progress will inevitably stall.Cabo Verde is still 56% black, still doing pretty alright, blacks there are still seeing improvements. Your assertion that they're doomed anyway is based on nothing.>GDP per capita around 1k, poorest of poor. At that low level they can still make some progress.>Average IQ of 75, and it shows. You said they couldn't improve. Lo and behold, improvements. If you're now saying it doesn't count unless it keeps going for another 30 years and averages out to a continent-wide (or continent-wide below the Sahara) improvement... Well, see you in the 2050s, lol, but I already cleared your initial goalposts.
>>526812683Based azns blasting to smithereens a straphanger a lunchtime rowdy an aspiring hockey player
>niggers arent low iq violent thu-ACK!!!
>>526802733If the data doesn’t show that black people have a lower IQ, how can it be "misused" to produce such findings?
>>526811820>Whereas all you do is call me a kike.That's because you are. Post nose and timestamp jew.
