I used to think this was really stupid, but now I know with 100% certainty that it happened.
>>527314097Based
Why is that, Anon?
Somewhere around 400 cultures have a flood myth. Many had no way they could communicate being separated by oceans and many years. To be 'Elite', is to know when to bug out. You retreat to safety, the world is 'cleansed' and you come down from the mountains and continue your rule.
>>527314097Global warming caused that
Massive flood? In Mesopotamia?
>>527314097Yea idk about end of the world and all of natures animals, but I do believe a large localized flood did happen and noah probably did make a boat with animals in it.
>>527314097One of the greatest comforts I have experienced is reading the KJV and seeing for myself that everything inside is true.
>>527314097it was cgi. isn't is suspicious we haven't built an ark for 2 of every animal since then? it was all propaganda
>>527314097
retard thread
>>527314483i know i need to read it but i just don't. to be fair i can barely sit down and read stuff i "want" to read (entertaining stuff or stuff i am "interested" in etc) so there is extra friction
The baltic sea was once a fresh water lake. Geological evidence supports a large flood with irreversible effects (some land remained submerged). Its not a far leap to think noah was a dude chillin in the caucus mountains with a big fishing boat, and his tribe thrived in the wake of a disaster thus his decedents make up basically all the population after mixing with survivors.The two animals thing is for sure a fairy tale. You don’t have to believe in evolution to know that if you keep fucking your cousins shits gonna turn gay and retarded
>>527314097Picrel shows an interesting correlation with severe drop in lifespan coinciding with the severe drop in genetic diversity.
>>527314332>>527314483it's a long watch, but if you haven't seen it, you owe it to yourselvesit explains a LOT, an uncanny amount really, and almost no one ever talks about ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hhE6tzJR_c
>>527314097When melting glaciers raised sea levels high enough to breach the Bosphorus straights and flood the area now known as the Black Sea. And now you know.
>>527314097its real
>>527314097Yes, because the Prophets who wrote the Bible confirmed it with Elohim when they talked to him
>>527315029So what's beneath the black sea?
>>527314097I believe it too, but I understand why some people think it sounds insane.The bible is an extremelly abridged and localized version of the event, telling a story that spanned through multiple years from the point of view of one man in one location in just a few pages. The flood was real, the nephilim were real and the world was fucked up at the time and Noah listened to God and did what he could.
>>527314781Just buy a physical copy and sit down and read a few psalms a day, then start reading the other books a few passages at a time.
>>527314228>Somewhere around 400 cultures have a flood myth.That's because even with perfect visibility, you can only see a couple of miles in any direction, so it takes way less than a global flood, to look like a global flood, to an ancient human.Retard.
>>527314097Knowing something with 100% certainty requires unfalsifiable evidence. Got a source?
>>527315009Oh interesting!
>>527314097>100% certaintyThe hallmark of the irredeemably retarded.
>>527314097>No Evidence for Global FloodGeology, physics, and biology show no signs of a worldwide flood covering the Earth's highest mountains, with insufficient water available for such an event.>Physical ImpossibilitiesFitting all animal species and the required food/water onto the described Ark presents major logistical and biological challenges, say critics.>Ancient Flood MythsThe story shares strong similarities with older Sumerian and Babylonian flood narratives, like Utnapishtim's story in the Epic of Gilgamesh.
>>527314097Moses have save animals and at that same time evolution still happens
>>527314097>I used to think this was really stupid, but now I know with 100% certainty that it happened.It's Nibiru, every 27,000 years it makes the flood happen in 3 hours.
>>527314097>Reed wall, r eed wall!It happened. Many things in the Old Testament happened. And then Flavius Josephus wrote Antiquities of the Jews, which made jews the center of all those stories. Rome took that book, and edited it until they had the product they wanted.
I believe there might have been a flood.I believe there might have been a boat.I believe there might have been a man who brought a bunch of animals.I do not believe he brought two of every kind.I do not believe he was on that boat for 300+ days.I do not believe rainbows did not exist prior to this event.
>>527314097>bottlenecking humanity down to Moses and his family>somehow, we're not all descendants of Mosesso where did the niggers come from, did Moses go grab some niggers
>>527314097Its the only logical explaination.
>>527315384*Noah, getting my jews confused
>>527314228>wow, cultures settle near drinkable water and have le flood myth. It’s a miracle
>>527315029Same thing happened in the Persian Gulf but much earlier. At LGM it was the Persian River.
>>527315368Exactly, it was Utnapishtim.
>>527314162SSRIs
>>527315216>>527315451Floods are common all over the world, but a flood that has been talked about for thousands of years must be something extraordinary.Like the sea level rise after the last ice age.
>>527315221Theres actually lots of evidence, atleast for massive historical cataclysms in human history, great floods, etc. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngest_Toba_eruption
>>527314097this is the one part of the bible i really can't wrap my head around. there's no proof of a massive global flood, no genetic bottlenecks that would occur if you take the story literally, not to mention the sheer impracticality of the whole thing.while many cultures have a flood story, i just don't think that can be easily extrapolated to a global flood. it's just a lot of local floods because of how dependent mankind is on proximity to water.
>>527315606>a flood that has been talked about for thousands of years>a floodThousands of floods happening in thousands of places at thousands of different times*
>>527315606>>527315451>>wow, cultures settle near drinkable water and have le flood myth. It’s a miracle^^ really, it's thatvirtually all the first human coastal settlements are at the bottom of the sea nowit just wasn't this massive cataclysmic 40 day rain that flooded the planet, and it happened over timesome probably happened quick but not quick enough to instantly inundate places like Doggerland
>>527314097It's real. I didn't need to read the bible to know.
>>5273142281. humans like to live in valleys2. valleys are carved by water and occasionally delugeergo a devastating flood is common in oral histories of inland tribes1. humans like to live near the coast2. sea levels have risen 120 meters in the last 19000 years, and tsunamis are unpredictableergo a devastating flood is common in oral histories of prehistoric coastal communities
it's how the N. Sentinelese got where they are, supposedly that was 40k years ago
I will never understand how retards believe the stupid shit in the bible. Maybe if you are a little kid you could believe in the arc but you have grown men that think it’s real.
>>5273156813 hours bro... 3 hoursi'm not claiming all the answers, but you'll have a much better understandingchoice is yourshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hhE6tzJR_c
>>527314823>The two animals thing is for sure a fairy tale. You don’t have to believe in evolution to know that if you keep fucking your cousins shits gonna turn gay and retardedI have a degree in biology and I disagree.You get two copies of a gene. One from mom, one from dad. If you get one good and one defective copy, you can get by. If you get two defective copies you are a fucked up deformed retard. That's why cousin fucking is bad. If your mom and dad were brother and sister, it dramatically increases the chances of you getting retard genes. On the other hand, if your parents aren't related, they probably both have retard genes but not the same specific retard genes.If you consider that God created life perfect, with no retard genes, and retard genes were only created after entropy was introduced by original sin, it makes sense. Before the Great Flood, cousin fucking was less of a problem. It only became a problem because of the genetic bottleneck created by the flood.
>>527316007I'm fine with people who believe all of it, or none of it, it's the people who selectively dismiss [x] because it sounds retarded while believing [y] as gospel when it sounds equally as retarded I can't standit's a nice thing to believe in to be honest and if you get brought up in the religion and become an apostate or atheist or something, there's no "answers" outside of it, really, and what little seems like answers is even bleaker than being at the feet of some insane egomaniac godsorry, meant "benevolent"so there's no real reason to break it, if you're already infected, might as well keep the faithbut yeah, hypocrites, et cetera
>>527314097The story in the Bible is true because it says it in the Bible!!!
>>527316201>God created life perfect, with no retard genes, and retard genes were only created after entropy was introduced by original sin, it makes sense.is God fallible or infallible in this view
>>527314097Yeah they stole the story from the Sumerians, an Anunaki warned their king Ziasudra that the other Anunaki were going to cause a flood
>>527316262Infallible
>>527316201there's no bottleneck though, that's the problem
Religion is a IQ test
>>527316412>retard genes were only created after entropy was introduced by original sinso this is not a mistake, this is the will of Godinherent to the designaka there are no mistakes, and everything is as planned
>>527316443There is though. Read pic related book.
>>527316251I didn't read the bible and know it's real. I just looked at art works and pictures.>>527316280There's a really important recurring figure in the Sumerian version.
>>527315681Near the end of the ice age, ice was melting, when ice melts it raises water levels, which would have almost certainly caused an increase of floods world wide that human populations were not used to.
>>527316605anon this book is pseudoscientific slop
>>527316605can you TLDR the point relevant to the argument please, as you've read it and understand the point you're trying to make, it's almost as bad as linking some 50 minute youtube video
>>527316572No, God's original creation was perfect, death and entropy were introduced into the world due to mankind's sin. God created the perfect system and we broke it.
>>527316443Genetic evidence says we had a mass extinction 72k years ago and were reduce to 1-10,000 people world wide.
>>527314097Makes alot more sense when it was 7 pairs of the 8 useful animals.Really explains the population bottlenecks and origin places of the domestic livestock animals.
>>527316717>God created the perfect system and we broke it.so it was a mistake? making us? not forseeing it?is God omnipotent, and omniscient?is he effectively punishing us for something he knew was going to happen and did nothing to prevent?
>>527316680People have a "genetic clock". Each generation 500 mutations are introduced to the Y chromosomes. You are 500 base pairs different than your dad, 1000 from granddad and so on. Everyone on earth is the decendent of one guy who lived 4500 years ago.
>>527316203It’s all delusional to me. I guess the last 5 of the 10 commandments are a good way to be a decent enough person. It’s all very basic and self evident tho. The older I get the more I hate religious people.
>>5273153682 of every animal is not written in the scripture he brought 7 pairs of the 8 clean animals and and 1 pir of unclean animal which weren't given a name but I assume it was pigs.
>>527316729in the bahag vageta we believe that there are 9 useful animal as we found a novel use for monitor lizard
>>527316836>is he effectively punishing us for something he knew was going to happen and did nothing to prevent?He gave us free will. The only way to prevent a being with free will from making bad choices is to never create rational beings in the first place, to create a world of robots following a program.
>>527316868thank yousounds fascinating but it also sounded science fictionesque to me, and all I can find on the book is all creationism related, it's also trying to claim>Connects us to our ancestors in Genesis 10>Uncovers evidence for a young-Earth creationwhich I'm not going to laugh at like I want to because you were kind enough to explain>>527316896I dislike that it ends up so prevalent on IBs because this isn't the kind of environment people who want to keep their faiths intact should be trying to discuss & defend it in>>527317079>is God omnipotent, and omniscient?>is God infallible?if all of these are yes free will is a myth, it's not logically possible
>>527316280You can't steal history dude its the same guy in every book.
>>527317079Have you ever wondered why people by default are arsehole and wby the average person is a jack off?We have the malevolence of our creater being made in his image and all.Why does a kid laugh at weird looking disabled people? Because God made them look funny to laugh at.Read the scripture their is nothing to indicate god is nice man,he told to Israelites to march in the Canaanites and they didn't so they lost his blessing.Humans and god have a transactional relationship.
>>527314483>KJVUnfortunetly uses the jew corrupted Masoretic text as the basis for it's old testament. The Septuagint is the only one the preserves the original copy of the old testament before the kikes fucked it.
Perhaps it would be prudent for the lot of you to clearly define what you mean with free will, before you assert that it exists, or does not exist.
>>527317501Wonder if he knows about the glass bottom castle that picked up Enoch and flew him over earth in the book of Enoch.
>>527317327>is God omnipotent, and omniscient?The short answer is no, not in the sense you appear to mean.This was a big debate between Islam and Christianity around the 12th century. Muslims said that Allah is all powerful (omnicient) in the sense he can do anything, including telling lies or switching the people in heaven and hell for shits and giggles.The Christian answer is that God is only all powerful in the sense that He can do anything that it is possible for Him to do, within the limits of His nature. God can not be less than perfect. He can not lie. He can not be unjust. He can not contradict His own laws of logic--He can not create a four sided triangle four example.
>>527314097I'm just asking cus I'm curious. I'm not a weird guy or anything.But can I have sex with my sister without any real issue right?Because we would be inbred for thousands of years?
>>527317556Sounds like a gnostic interpretation.I would say that concupiscence, the tendency toward sin is a consequence of our nature having been corrupted by original sin.
Plagiarized Sumerian creation stories authored by Jews isn't real.
>>527317556>Read the scripture their is nothing to indicate god is niceold testament God is an egomaniac who kills every firstborn non-jew in Egypt to punish pharoh for not freeing jews from slaveryafter he "hardens pharoh's heart" against freeing them like he wanted>>527317720>God can not be less than perfect. He can not lie. He can not be unjust. He can not contradict His own laws of logic--He can not create a four sided triangle four example.the problem with the new testament is the same problem with the old, Jesus never says this is not the nature of Godall he really effectively says is "God's not going to act like that anymore as long as you use me as a Kapparot sacrifice"I'd really like to know what christianity was before Saul
>>527317860It's not in my nature to break the only rule I have to follow to stay in paradise but my wife she shoplifts cheap things like chewing gum despite coming from a very well to do family.Man's made in his image and women ismade from the dust in his shadow.Sending the unborn through the flame to el=getting an abortion
>>527314781Start with MatthewAbout a million feels passages that stick with you, and you can apply to modern life
>>527317981>I'd really like to know what christianity was before SaulThere are plenty of historical documents from the time period. Ireaneus was a disciple of Polycarp, who was a disciple of John the Apostle. The time period is not a complete historical mystery.
>>527317981>I'd really like to know what christianity was before SaulRead everything in the Christian Bible before Romans, then. He's mentioned briefly in Acts to introduce his following apostleship, but wasn't influential for Christianity yet.
>>527314971 #Lmfao thats a wild take, I suppose I can’t really refute that. There’s still a mass of other logistical that aren’t being addressed though lol.
>>527315280>can't fit them all on the arkThe Bible clearly says OF 2 of every kind, not 2 of every kind. DNA technology was used. You could fit tons on animal DNA strands on a single petri dish isolated, and then go from there with ancient world tech we don't have (or we do but it's not for the public)
>>527314097Unfortunately OP, you are a retard
>>527315280you know that mountains around the world have sea fossils right?
>>527320031>cant into understanding geologic upliftlol, spic.
>>527321277>lol, spicThat's not an argument. I take your ad homenim attack to be a concession that he was right.
>>527314097so many 1post slide threads today.. what is going on?
>>527314228You have it backwards. It's not the sheer number of flood stories that prove Noah's Ark is true, but rather the Ark is a story based on those. It's for teaching not literal interpretation. Every civilization since the dawn of time knows what a flood is and its consequences.
>>527322820War with Iran. They don't want any skyking threads discussing US troop deployment and logistics.Frankly, I'm just glad their slide threads aren't all gay porn this time.
>>527314097It isnt that hard.People have this stupid thought that Noah brought fully grown animals into the Ark. If he were starting over again it would make sense he brought eggs and infants into the ark. This would provide 2 major advantages. The carnivores wouldn't eat the herbevores and the large animals would be easy to carry as babies. The insects wouldnt be needed because they can dig in the earth.
>>527315783You dont have any proof that 19,000 years ago existed. There is no evidence that life existed in pre history.
>>527324060> insects can dig in the Earth> Earth was allegedly flooded> hurrdurr no problems here The actual fuck is this schizobabble
>>527324060Yeah because the camel spider was able to just casually burrow itself under an entire ocean and shook that shit off no problem. I fucking hate how utterly braindead you people are.
>>527315280>whale fossils in the Andes, tree fossils through millions of years of sedimentary layers>idiotic response. Noah didn't need every species but kind. Juveniles for megafauna. The ark was as big as a mid size container ship.>duh that's the point
>>527324264Nigger what is oil
>>527315280>no signs of a worldwide flood covering the Earth's highest mountainsBible says it was a flood, not that the entire thing was water. Also there's sea fossils at the top of the biggest mountains everywhere.
>>527324060grow up
>>527324417That's happened in the past 6000 years of geologic time, you dumb fucking beaner? How old are the fossils relative to your magic book's sense of bullshit time?Kill yourselves you subhuman retards
>>527324312Do you believe the words of John D Rockefeller, the world's first billionaire, that oil is a limited resource from dinosaur bones? Im not saying I know what oil is, but it seems rather unlikely that a man that was trying to extrapolate as much wealth from the rest of the world was being honest about his claims.
>>527316674>pseudoscientificKike detected but that's a given due to the flag
>>527324457Refute my points.
None of you? >Micronova is real
>>527314097It actually did happen There were probably less animals so he didn’t need to take that many
>>527324488>How old are the fossils relative to your magic book's sense of bullshit time?I don't know, carbon dating has proven erroneous after a certain amount of time which is 8k years AFAIK, giving exponential results farther than that.Also police your tone, mutt
>>527324490I'll give you a hint retard massive oil deposits don't form under ocean beds in 6000 years.
>>527314097And recently.
anyone who believes the Bible literally is fucking retarded honestly believing in any supernatural being is retarded
>>527324579Your hostility and inability to articulate any response with logic reasoning or evidence shows that you need to re read your books. You seem good at school yard taunts but not much else.
>>527324572Ok beaner if every ice cap melted and all the water came together the sea would raise 230 FEET. FEET you fucking retard. Where in the fuck does your magic gay flood find all the water? Where did it go?
>>527324664Don't come to me about logic while defending Noah's Ark you goddamn retard. This is the most ridiculously fake and stupid story ever believed to be real.
>>527324526lol it would be like refuting Star Wars. Obviously.
>>527324677If you read genesis it quite literally tells you where the water comes from. You have read the historical book you are trying to refute fren? You didnt come in here half cocked to throw insults and not even done a cursory read of the subject?
>>527314097Did we REALLY need to spare chihuahuas?
>>527324214spiders can swim
>>527324799Bitch to even make enough flood water to reach the Earth's mountain peaks would be more water than has ever existed on this planet by many probably thousands of times if not more.
>>527324526if you really are on some kind of journey of discovery, have some self respect and do it properly
>>527314097>I will believe the most retarded shit imaginable just to be a contrarian. It's a foundational myth you moron, you don't have to be an edgy atheist to see that. You can believe in God without having to believe what desert jews thought up thousands of years ago, in fact it's better if you trust only God and not the jews.
>>527324845Oh eat shit buckethead
>>527324852The mountains were made bigger during the flood since the whole earths surface was ripped to pieces which in turn released huge reserves of subterranean water. Even if a few mountain peaks were poking out so what it doesn't refute anything. You are very arrogant for soneone so ignorant
>>527324989Jesus goddamn Christ this is retardation you could power nuclear reactors with
>>527314097It's absolute bullshit but I believe it
>>527314228There's a flood happening outside of my window right now. It's not hard to imagine how they came up with that children's tale.
>>527324766So you cant refute the points. Star wars is easily refutable. It was a movie series made by George Lucas.He explicitly stated this was a fantasy world that had inspirations from action adventure serials of the first half of the 20th century. >>527324730You just seem kinda pitiful. Your nights are spent lashing out at random people that don't believe in your cult. For the record, your thoughts are cultish and you are promoting your beliefs not with evidence. You are attacking people if they don't agree with your worldview. Why should people believe your worldview when the only thoughts you can muster are simple attacks on people who disagree with you? Is this some form of emotional release because you get bullied irl?
>>527325029sick burn bro reddit must love you
>>527314097I used to think OP was a faggot but now I know he's retarded tooTWO or EVERY animal? You can't be serious
>>527324677>Ok beaner if every ice cap meltedIt was from the firmament aka space, yeah i don't like the explanation that much but it is mentioned there, also the explosion of underground mantles is a thing too.>FEET you fucking retard.I don't use slave metrics, try again footfag
>>527325144Kinds not species. He only need one pair of macropods and what we have today are their descendants
>>527314097You need to be a genuine retard to believe in this
>>527314097>sometime BC>be animal smuggler/merchant>about to set sail/already underway>shit starts flooding and you are throwing anchor way inland (now coastland)>get flayed alive by jews>animals get roasted by jews>jew is inspired and writes a little tale
>>527325165That's not what the Bible says you child. Never mind that- explain to me the logic of how he went about capturing a male and female of these representative species. That's harder than building the giant zoo boat.You know it's BS as you sit here trying to justify it. You all do. I knew it deep down and that's why Christcuckery wasn't for me
Human cultures tend to develop near water, close to the sea. When an ice age ends the sea rises and floods all these areas.
>>527314097some old guy in ancient times had a big boat relative to that era, he saved a bunch of people and importantly livestock from devastating flood, bam the legend is born
>>527325308That is exactly what the Bible says. God sent him the animals that were to be saved.
>>527314228>Somewhere around 400 cultures have a flood mythThat's because they all lived around rivers which flood periodically. Ancient people were terrified of floods. One minute everything's fine. The next your family and everything you own are swept away.
>>527325395That's convenient and if you literally believe that then you are profoundly retarded. Why wouldn't God just put those animals in a shelter himself if he was able to wrangle them for Noah. There's lots of huge logic gaps if you keep thinking at it and don't give me that "lord works in mysterious ways" bullshit. The Bible was written by sandniggers that had infantile worldviews and it's very nature makes it so you have to take it literally and can't interpret it differently. It's the word of God despite being written by like 40 dudes who couldn't have predicted the Internet or that there'd be ways of cross referencing and researching the origins of this shit
>>527325162Try about 70 beanmeters then. For reference a basic ass mountain like Mt. Shasta is 4,322 beanmeters.Nigger the volume of water to encompass the Earth past mountain peaks would literally shift our gravity or cause all kinds of shit. It would be more than could reasonably end up on a rocky planetoid of our size period.It's made up. Fairies and faggotry.
>>527325162Everest is 8,849 beanmeters. To make a sphere of that size would require more water than there is actual crust of the Earth itself. It doesn't even make sense as a quantity.
>>527324637not being able to believe in things beyond your comprehension is another level of retarded.
>>527325607>that's convenientYes>why did God get Noah to do it?God uses people as agents of special salvation. We have the opportunity to work in the plan of salvation too.>muh ignorant sandpeopleand yet what they wrote is proven right by the evidence all these years later, seems divine, no?
>>527325086like I said, you can do it properly or you can embarrass yourself
>>527325829The problem is we do comprehend it, retard. That's how we know it didn't happen.
>>527325931No way bro get this >big motherfucking boat>lots of waterBet you’ll never comprehend this one
>>527325086Bro says I'm in a cult while crying about me using strictly reason to dismantle your made up bullshit fanfiction. Humble thyself, dumbass. I just loathe seeing you retarded subhumans drag us down unto your filth.
1) Where did the water come from?2) Where did it go?3) How did Noah get animals from far-distant regions like Australia and South America?4) How did Noah get those animals back to their native habitats afterwards? 5) This supposedly took place in 2300 BC, when the Pyramids were being built. How did the Egyptians return after being wiped out? Same question for the Akkadians. 6) Why is there no geological evidence this happened? 7) How are we not all inbred after this? 8) If god can know everything, and see everything, how come he kills everyone when things don't go his way? Was this really his plan from the start?
>>527326027this post is very reddit
>>527325931you can't know something beyond your comprehension retard.
>>527314097take your gayass bible shit at get the hell outta here
>>527314097>knowchristians really abuse this word like no other
>>527314097>I used to think this was really stupid, but now I know with 100% certainty that it happened, now everyone that aren't christcucks think i'm stupidFtfy
>>527325989It wasn't even a boat. It was a giant box. There was no keel and no rudder. And it would have fallen apart almost instantly. The largest wooden ship ever built was the Wyoming, and it flexed and took on water every time in went over a wave. And it was made by master shipbuilders using better materials and techniques. There's a reason giant ships are made out of metal.
Do you retards also think Abraham was 175 years old? And had kids at 100? That the Red Sea spontaneously split itself because a Jew compelled it to?I sincerely wish you would do better for yourselves, but I know that's wishful thinking.
>>527315009Bro 2012 was more interesting, just watch that.
>>527314097How do you even define happened, its literally impossible without so much interference from god, that the very definition of something having happened looses meaning. If you accept that god can massively rewrite reality on a whim, then you could assert anything.
>>527326064I would take sounding like Reddit over failing the most obvious litmus test in human history by believing this bullshit.
>>527326061>1) Where did the water come from?Underground and heaven. Not hard for a being who made it all ex nihilo.>2) Where did it go?Underground3) How did Noah get animals from far-distant regions like Australia and South America?The earth looked nothing like it does post-flood. God brought them to Noah.>4) How did Noah get those animals back to their native habitats afterwards?They walked, swam and flew>5) This supposedly took place in 2300 BC, when the Pyramids were being built. How did the Egyptians return after being wiped out? Same question for the Akkadians.It was more like 5,000 BC6) Why is there no geological evidence this happened?Read the thread or search "evidence of the global flood"7) How are we not all inbred after this?We are to an extent, that's why lifespans crashed hard immediately. Then migration and isolation happens.>8) If god can know everything, and see everything, how come he kills everyone when things don't go his way? Was this really his plan from the start?Yes he knows the full story from the beginning. He made us knowing we would fall but knew that he would still give us the gift of salvation through His Son, Jesus Christ
>>527326111> calls the bible gay> posts zyzz mire picwhat are you trying to tell us
>>527326302Materialists can't comprehend this. If God exists then otherwise impossible acts are ezpz. That's the point.
>>527326302>then you could assert anythingThat's all religion is: baseless assertions. If any of the shit was real, they wouldn't need all the propaganda and lies.
>>527326227Umm sweetie ever heard of a little thing called magic wood? God can make magic wood you knowHe can also turn water into wine, pretty special am I right?
The world was on mass of land and torn apart. God cursed Ham and his son Canaane BlackCanaan was uppity and laughed at Noah for being drunk while Shem and his brother Japheth had clothed their father to show their love and respect while Ham just kept laughing.this is why Niggers are uppity and thing violence and chaos is fucking funny.And the Modern Jews of Europe (Ashkenazi and Kabal) are Canaan. they're converts and not true children of Shem.They love Chaos. The Synagogue of Satan. And dumb Trump worships Bibi the Canaanite.And Biden worshipped Canaanite rights over Japheth and the real children of Shem. Instead we are killing off Japheth lineage and bombing the real Shems.Palestinians are all Philistine. Invaders. and the modern Jews of Israel are nothing more than cousins of those Muslims they kill. while true Muslims of Saudi Arabia are the real Semites. but they too are corrupted.The world is SHIT. and Satan rules it
Christards can't explain oil, carbonization, biodiversity, selective breeding, geology, archeology, vestigial body parts, or really anything.
>>5273260611 and 2) God can create more water or take it away as He wants. He's God.3 and 4) maybe it was a vast flood in the middle east, not worldwide.5) you're using some incorrect data.6) there is evidence that big parts of the middle east were under water.7) we are.8) an amoeba can't understand why humans do what they do.
>>527315280>>527315368>>527326241> Do you think this implausible Biblical event literally happened?I don't have to. Pic related.
>>527326456SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH, HEATHEN!REPENT NOW OR GET REKT, NIGGER
>>527326241So the word for "heaven" in the old testament is "Shamayim"Well it turns out, the word Shamayim is made by combining 2 other words "Ocean" + "High place". You see the ancient Hebrews actually believed that over the sky-dome, was an ocean of water, thus explaining why the sky was blue. Also underground, was another ocean of water. This is actually described in Genesis when god "divides the waters", some above, some below. So the word "heaven" literally means "ocean in the sky", and in the time of Noah god opens up the "windows of the sky" letting that celestial ocean pour down onto the earth. Then cracks upon the great Deep so the water will bubble up from below. Kent Hovind, the very devout creationist, tried to argue that Earth used to be surrounded by a floating ice-wall hanging in space, which fell to earth during the time of Noah. Like many very conservative christians, he believes there are oceans underground too. In fact in the Old Testament, there is no mention of Heaven being some "spiritual realm" like you might imagine. That's a New Testament thing, since they were heavily influenced by Platonic ideas. The Christian conception of "heaven" is inspired by Plato's "world of forms" .
>>527326518Forgot pic
>>527326489> hurrdurr only flooded middle east!> goal posts movedAbsolutely, unequivocally, I hope you die of the most debilitating asshole cancer.
>>527314097why not post the real replica
>>527326027You have said nothing other than attacks. Im guessing I was spot on that you use these types of threads to attack those that you feel are inferior to yourself. You arent here to even question your own viewpoints. You are just here to zealously follow your beliefs and attack those that differ in view to you.
>>527326547The lord hath given me asscancer praise his name
>>527315681>this is the one part of the bible i really can't wrap my head aroundThats it? The bible is a full of plotholes. If you want people to believe in jesus, showing them the bible often achieves the opposite
>>527315280The story is not even worth seriously addressing. Its so fundamentally impossible and at odds with reality that precise refutement is not required. If it did happen, it did so in some other reality. My fan theory, is that this current world is a completely different realm to the biblical earth, the one god created in 7 days. Making the biblical earth a different world solves all the tension between reality and the bible. My theory is that when god switched to belief without evidence based salvation he moved humanity to this world and retconned human history.
>>527326532Ok see now I know Christianity is just a humiliation ritual/limited hangout to capture gullible retards made up by kikes.
>>527326489You're a fool. you're trying to use cope mechanism and meet God half way with your retarded statementThey have found that there is another Ocean below the 7 mile debth of the Marinera trench. the water sprung from the deepest grounds to flood the earth while it rained for 40 days and nights.the water was forced up with the violent ripping apart of the contenants.simple as and you can see it on the globe. all the continents fucking fit one another like a jigsaw puzzleSTOP REPRESENTING, WITH YOUR NIGGER BRAINS
>>527326549The funniest part is there was a storm and they had to spend thousands of dollars repairing the water damage. And it's not really a replica because there is steel reinforcement all over the place.
>>527326547why does that idea make you so mad? there weren't global communications back then and the story was from the point of a localized people in the reigon.
>>527326584If not being retarded is an attack then I'm Genghis Khan, Christard
>>527314097It happened, but not as it's told.What probably happened is that some sumerian and his family survived a flood of the Tigris river while the rest of the village drowned.How did they survive? Because he had a boat unlike many others.
>>527326345>Underground and heaven. Not hard for a being who made it all ex nihilo.If God is doing things like spawning in water, why go through the whole flood thing to begin with? Just change people's minds with a finger snap. What was the point of going through the whole show to begin with? Also, why the whole "ark" thing with the animals, if God can just spawn in more animals?>The earth looked nothing like it does post-flood. God brought them to Noah.But this supposedly happened in 2500 BC you know. That's part of recorded history. >They walked, swam and flewKoalas eat Eucalyptus trees that are native to Australia. How did Koalas walk all the way from Turkey, where Noah landed, to Australia, without their food source? They only waddle like 3 miles/hour>Yes he knows the full story from the beginning. He made us knowing we would fall but knew that he would still give us the gift of salvation through His SonSo what was the point of the original couple thousand years, if it was just washed away and forgotten? Because it seems like god made a mistake, angrily washed it away, then tried again. If he was all foreseeing, that wouldn't have happened.
>>527314228This includes dragons. Every civilization has stories about dragons and people fighting dragons. When we find their bones they are like "No, this are a bird from a gazillion years a go. I know because a machine can tell me that"Science is gay.
>>527314097I instinctively knew whose flag this was. Good goy. You will die well on the battlefields of Iran.
>>527326693It's a completely retarded story that makes absolutely no sense in reality. If it was a local story it was local to Jews which is all the more reason to disregard.
>>527326618Why do you believe that? Why is it hard for you to believe in a giant flood wiping out most of life on earth?
>>527326709WRONGGlobal chaos.
Dark oxygen created from oxides in the ocean generates most of earth oxygen.Up until they found that out with certainty 3 years ago people used the "airs doesnt come from water haha bible disproved argument now they just pretend it wasn't their big gotcha for the last 40 years.https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ocean-oxygen.htmlhttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-024-01480-8https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2026/01/260129080422.htmhttps://www.whoi.edu/ocean-learning-hub/ocean-facts/does-the-ocean-produce-oxygen/No way to have a rational debate when everything supporting one side of the debate is ignored.
>>527326647sorry i was so foolish not to know about or believe in your secret underground ocean.
>>527326698Im done with you. You sound like you were one of the genetic offspring of genghis khan's lineage a rape baby
>>527326768It is not hard to believe in its own right, but it is reasonable to want evidence.
>>527326768Nigger because physics and basic observable, measurable reality don't support your midwit hypothesis that magic skyjew made more water than is even possible to sustain weather patterns to fuck with some desert guys and some undesirable animals.
>>527326746what if was a really vast flood in the area? could pull the stick out of you ass and chill?
>>527326727The ancestor of Koalas was on the ark they became retarded in Australia. It was more like 5,000 BC. God didn't need to create anything and He didn't need to save us after the fall. He does it because He loves us. That is why he doesn't force us to believe.
>>527326822> boohoo I'm a sad retard who believed in Santa still *scoffs*Weak
>>527326859Seriously suck start a shotgun
>>527326489>5) you're using some incorrect data.you know that you can literally add the lifespans and birthdates in the bible, and get 6000 years, right? The geneology is very specific about this. According to creation.com, the great flood took place in 2300 BC
"This" is simply the flooding that occured after the last ice age. With glaciers receding across the globe, there were giant lakes of melted ice sitting on top of the ice. Eventually the edge of the lakes would melt and cause epic catastrophic floods all over the world for hundreds of years. Shit before the ice age is kinda fuzzy but we definitely existed, continued to exist during and after, and were probably recuperating, but at the same time we're recuperating the planet was destroying our shit over and over. To say it simply left us a story is probably an understatement. It didn't just scare us about water, it probably reaaaallly convinced us that the gods fucking hated us and that we need to keep them happy or we will just get obliterated.
>>527326647Humans can't even dig holes very deep because it gets too hot. How is water able to stay liquid next to molten rock?
>>527326818I'm sorry I got angrylets hold hands and make googly eyes at one anotherBut yeah, it's real. pockets of water trapped inside the rocks crust. high pressure from a catastrophy sprung up and the entire ring of fire was formed ripping future continents apart.even science is admitting to this now. to some degree. the water's height pushed up may have frozen causing the creation of our glaciers.
>>527326894the stick shall remain in your angry ass. have fun hating your Creator.
>>527326875The real retard belief is that an “omnipotent” god is gonna send you to hell if you dont believe in himWhen an omnipotent being would know which people would and wouldnt believe in him prior to creating the universe
>>527326975You blaspheme the real God with this heretical fairy desert Jew bullshit. God no more cares about what we trifle over than you do cells in your colon.
>>527326931trapped as vapors and when it rapidly cools down it turns back into liquid H20the planet was ripped apart.
>>527326981That is not what the Bible teaches. The damned with be completely destroyed, after being punished possibly by looking upon God and it torturing their evil souls. God will not eternally preserve the existence of those who hate Him.
>>527326768Because all the water in the world, even including the ice at the poles, is not enough to cover the earth. And we're not gonna believe that it happened miraculously just because you'd cry if we don't.Why should we take your miracles claims at face value while ignoring all the other miracle claims in the world?Also, there's a big difference between "a big flood did stuff" and "the exact proceedings as described in my Jewish legendarium is true to the last dot, because the God of the Jews is the true creator of the universe".
>>527326981None of that is scripturally accurate.This thread is full of spastics who havent read the scripture. 7 of you cunt here 5 against and 2 for have very clearly never read what they are arguing over.
>>527314228As always, myths become embellished with time. A regional flood becomes a global flood, a few animals saved on board becomes a wholesale rescue of the world's biodiversity, and a small hilltop that the boat becomes stranded on is conflated with a 15000' high mountain.
>>527327086ok but if it's a simple regional flood, why is it so important to take 2 of every animal on the ark?
>>527327058>>527327041I dont care about your “scripture” is your god omnipotent or not?
>>527327058> God's most loyal retardGo get em, champ
>>527327033God created us in His image and He loves us.
>>527327148He is.
>>527326768The story is impossible within the framework of rules we have created to understand the world. The noahs ark story cannot be fit into this world. The only way to make the story workable is to separate it from this reality. Its very obvious all the nonsense that went on in the testament does not fit into the narrative of this current world.
>>527327045except the waterous vapor gas trapped in rockes below the surface of the ocean, 7 miles deep and more.the planet opened up (probably were the Vales Marinera is located) and water sprung forth from the sea. literally pushing the ocean level up while it caused vaporous clouds (just like volcanoes can cause black rain and lightening) it was the most violent event Humans ever witnessed before being rekt to death. Noah and his faith survived this.Sadly Ham was being a little shit and god Cursed his first born, Black as a crow. this is how the Black African Race began. not racist, Jesus called them Dogs. Canaanites act uppity and demand shit they dont deserve.take your liberal shit elsewhere. God is set in his ways. He loves blacks but they were cursed to be our servants for eternity on earth
>>527314097Well the irl noahs ark isnt your pic, it was like a modern supertanker for freight, except made of the hardest hardwood that grew in optimal hydroponics since that was the de facto state of mist coming uo from earth rather than rainAnd it was best genetics possible for those plantsAnd wood was chosen over other materials because of the flexTook noah and his sons about 100 years of prophesying and building the ark on dry land before the flood happenedAnd obviously you dont have to worry about bugs, fish, squids, or bacteriumsAlso noah knew the clean from unclean animals; so kosher was default feom adam despite only eating meat post flood as it wereI think the appendix is our cellulose digesting organ that lost its value after we fell from GraceAnd after 10 generations of inbreeding, you lose genetic longevityAlso, the septuagint gets the proper age of the patriarchs and their sons relative to the masoretic text; masoretic text purposefully subtracts 100 years from each of the 10 patriarchs to abraham in order to discredit a proper timeline to Jesus Christ as well as an accurate population growth curve for up until egyptian dynasties and their history lines with the biblical narrativeAnd we live in the end times just like the days of noah, this time is a Judgement by fire and a great tribulation of 3 andn1/2 yearsEzekiel 38 right around the corner any day nowAnd the mark of the beast as a financial singularity with augmented man is possibly also any day nowAi is the beast that is and is not and yet isAi is the beast rising up out of the seaAi is already a primordial divination interface for idolators, and godless heathens already worship it, it also speaks blasphemies against El Shaddai- the Most High Almighty GodI think also, i may be wrong, but if you look at the current hyperinflation and precious metals; we ought to reach an equivalency of transaction relative to a penny for a measure of wheat / days work for your meal(s) soonPicrel
>>527327178> source: some rabbisGod may have created us but you create new hair follicles and toe nails without consideration for their feelings.
>>527327188Well then he would know who would “fail” prior to creating them. Like he is putting on a little fag puppet show with his own hand
>>527327086STFU, Raj. You people literally worship COWS and SHITand Many Gods. You are PAGANS!
>>527326981This is sophomoric, anon. Sin, not mere unbelief, is what guarantees damnation. Christ offers us salvation from our sins, so that even those who are beyond human cure have recourse. "Nobody comes by the father but by me" - meaning, Christ has ultimate authority on who is allowed in.
>>527327234yes. but they get to exist. before they were nothing.
>>527325077>>527325525>>527315783>>527315451While this is most likely true. I just thought it was interesting that in the Aztec flood myth. A creator god was set to destroy the world because humans became unfaithful and wicked. Another god warned two people of the flood and ordered them to build a canoe to survive it. Just thought that was interesting considering mesoamerica had absolutely no contact with the old world to get this scenario.
>>527327282>>527327242
>>527327214If they don't even know the location ("probably"?), how do they know the geological history of the event?
>>527326647the fact that the continents all stick together is a bit weird to me. It would make sense if the land was mostly plates on top of plates. But even then it kinda implies we got lucky, as there is just enough water to cover the lower plates but not the upper plates. idk
>>527327034OrThe pole rotated about 30 degrees which would move the water from the "green sahara" to the Mediterranean which is littered with old cities on its coast that are now underwater.The same pole movement would fill the caspian make the north sea a sea rather than a bunch of valley lakesmove the ocean from the below sea level parts of Australia where the desert is full of fossil coral reefsinundate the east side of the Australia dividing range creating the mountain range that the great barrier reef sits onwash a huge wall of water across the north of the Americas (ice age megafauna is deposited in valleys in alaska and canada support this)Free the north west of Europe from its remnant ice cap.
>>527327298Ok just keep moving goal posts and never grasp reality then. Christians are schizophrenics without meds.
>>527327242>>527327321You must have a surreal amount of faith in the powers of human reason if you rest your ability to accept salvation on a rhetorical flourish of that sort. Zeno's paradoxes purport to prove the impossibility of motion. When a Greek student of philosophy went to Diogenes of Sinope and said, "I will prove the impossibility of motion", Diogenes walked away.
>>527327231We now know the function of the appendix actually. It's a "safe haven" for microbes and helps repopulate the gut microbiome after everything has been flushed out from disease-related diarrhea.
>>527327242Yes he knows the end from the beginning but (you) have the freedom to choose eternal life. If you were to be the only individual to accept this gift then He would have allowed history to unfold in the same way just to achieve this. He loves you so much that your eternal happiness is worth all of the shit we've been through. May you know this happiness, anon.
>>527327364okay just keep on with the nihilist spiritual view that keeps you angry. at least you have your pride in your intellect.
>>527327305How is that interesting? Floods are destructive. It a god is going to destroy humanity with a flood, he's going to have a reason. The only reason that justifies complete genocide is if the people are beyond saving.
>>527327214Anon brown people like arabs and italians have hams curse.Aetheiops are beast of the field.
Belief in retarded shit like this is why society has been so fucked for so long. You people deliberately indoctrinate other people into being idiots with you so you don't feel so crushingly alone. I hope we bring back gas chambers for all you Abrahamoids the next time.
>>527314228They also share similarities to their world/universe cosmology And their false religions also all share thematics with mystery babylonian religionEverything since the tower of babel has been a cultural appropriation game of telephone relative to the Truth as well as the darkness corruptingRemember, 99.9999% Truth is sill a diluted lieOnly Jesus Christ is 100% Truth and above and beyond any false dichotomy such as lucifer defeating satan black and white masonic checkerboard bsHe is also the One True God Who Saves, and we must needs be born again by His Blood to be RedeemedThe 1000 year kingdom is going to be great, i cant wait to meet my 4chan bros from these threads all these years, of a truth bros; nobody can rob me or you or us as the bride of Christ- our joy eternal in HimFor once you know, you know, and Jesus Is GodFor those that dont know, consider all things are aligning to biblical prophecyTake the euphrates river of my pic last post here >>527327231Globohomo is guaranteed to piggyback a watercrisis and blame us with globohomo warming climate crisis cultists and default to some fake and gay carbon tax or even worse; ecofacisms because they would rather worship the creation than the Creator GodAnd God will continue Judging the earth as much as its inhabitants for their worksWhen the abomination of desolation occurs on the altar yet to be built in jerusalem, and the daily sacrifice stops in the evening and morning: the world as a whole will be Judged for their refusal of God as Master of all thingsAnd the mark of the beast will so be the equivalent Judgement for the individualHe who has an ear to hear, let him hear: the funvaxx and the plandemic were but a trial phase of a similar set of circumstances- and if you mistakenly though gobid19 injections were the mark, you were misledIts gonna be way worseIts going to be way worse
>>527327477I believe in God, just not retard Jew God that you lapped up from your masters.
>>527327234Your conscious mind is not immanent within your own toenail cells. God is immanent within man. That is what it means to be created "in his image". Pagans made idols with their hands as a way to invite to the gods to inhabit that idol, so that it could be spoken to face to face. The idol was "in the image" of the pagan god. Humans are "in God's image" because we are vessels for his spirit.
>>527327458>>527327430Listen if your god knows who is going to be destroyed prior to creating them that is fucked up. Not that I believe what you guys do, but I would rather be destroyed than spend eternity with someone like that
>>527327630Do you not have children?I created mine knowing one day they will die.
>>527326839Stop replying to me you have been acting desperate and deluded yourself into thinking you have any point of evidence.>>527326827Well I believe it happened first and foremost because the bible says it happened. But, Im not so prudish, for you, a secularist to take the word of God at face value. I can point to large valleys like the grand canyon that were likely formed very rapidly by surging water moving huge layers of sediment quickly. I can point to there being evidence of a large ancient boat near mount ararat modern day turkey. I could even say that the ocean water we have now is the settled flood water.I want to go back and circle around to the grand canyon forming very rapidly. I do not believe the geologic column to be accurate and that the model was made not as a means of understanding the world but largely made to discredit a young earth model previously believed throughout the western Christian world. In fact, you can see large deposits of different sediment forming in real time during volcanoes in little less than a couple of days. So a water that could fill the earth to the peaks of mountains could easily form the myriad valleys that we have today.
>>527327630>I would rather be destroyed than spend eternity with someone like thatThat is exactly the point, He loves you enough to give you the choice in the matter. I pray you change your mind some day.
>>527327592>I believe in Godno you don't. and if you do it's not a good one judging from you language itt.
>>527327719Nah not really interested in any of that
>>527327543>the tower of babelThat never happened. Nebuchadnezzar was building a giant ziggurat. War broke out and it was never completed. Years later people probably saw the giant building and the cuneiform they couldn't read and they made up a story about it.
>>527327480And the warning to build a boat to survive it. I'm not saying there's a divine reason for it, but I thought it was interesting that humans have this tendency to think similarly despite never even meeting each other.Just like the Nephilim and the Quinametzin. Both races of giants that existed in ancient times as failed creations according to the Hebrew bible and the Aztec myths
>>527314097>I used to think it was stupid, but now I like the story because christshills on /pol/ tricked me into thinking a failing religion would solve all my problems. Many such cases.
>>527314284>Massive flood? In Mesopotamia?it was different then, lush, and the persian gulf went up hundreds of miles deeper look it upit was a pretty based place anon, hammurabi's code, an eye for an eye, the first invention of beer, the domestication of like 13 common grains like wheat or barley, tons of banging women.also as one of the very first "hustle & bustle" cities the jews got sent there and began being forged into what they are today, although the key evolutionary accelerant for the jewish phenotype was the genetic bottleneck during the black death when the jews were executed for unleashing the black death; this genetic bottleneck is the origin of their generally greater intelligence and bizarre hawk and goblin like appearances, while their culture of predatory behavior can be traced further into the past, further than babylon.. india
>>527314483You are a certified idiot and gullible clownIf you read the Bible and thought hmm everything here is true, and couldn't see the agenda to control the masses and form a cult, you don't have any brains my boy
>>527327747Then you are a second rate soul with no stake in this earth.Make sense that you are unhappy you are one of the people from the land of Nod.
>>527327828Lmao thats a lot of assumptions and scripture babble, I’m wealthy and happy just not willing to believe in the being the christian bible suggests created the world
>>527316516Trolling is a art
>>527327780Obviously if humanity continues, someone has to be saved. We know exactly where the Noah story came from:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShuruppakNoah:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZiusudraThere's also a giant crater in the Indian Ocean that was dated to around the time the myth appeared. It wouldn't surprise me if an asteroid impact caused the flood in Iraq.
>>527327630You are trying to understand what it is not given to man to understand. We do not have a grasp on the nature of God, free will, omniscience, etc. to be able to make any firm logically sound assessments. If you wish to come into communion with things that exist beyond the keyhole field of view we are given by the sense then adopt an attitude of epistemic humility. It is not hard for me to see why anyone would insist on restricting themselves to only what may be known with full knowledge, and indeed you can understand the material world in every detail down to the quark. But know that you are forswearing all fruits of the spirit, by your own volition.
>>527314097>>527327787The Younger Dryas event is a real thing and it ended the so-called "ice age" and started the holocene.Look it up, nigger.P.S. There was no "ice age", the geographic features that are supposed to be the result of glaciers were caused the Younger Dryas event.
>>527327780>And the warning to build a boat to survive it.Not a boat. All cultures talk of an "ark" specifically. Think of something like a bunker or a generation ship.
>>527314639Because the dumbasses lefties were worshiping a gold cow and killing babies(Same thing they do now)
>>527314483>boomers are actually this retarded
>>527314097It did not. The Earth has been partially covered in ice numerous times throughout its existence, but there's no evidence for a global flood that wiped out everyone but one dude and his kids. source: I'm not retarded.
>>527327794>>Massive flood? In Mesopotamia?It is between 2 of the largest rivers on earth.Perfect place for a floodPlus it is the most heavily farmed part of the planet,It still is lush! the fertile crescent is home to over half a billion people and all of the countries just about including iran and iraq are net food exporters.Next time you are on google earth zoom in there is 30 miles of farms either way of both the tigress and Euphrates rivers.You see brown on a satellite and think desert because you are a American and ignorant.
>>527327887No you aren't you the superfluous u guy who picks a new larp every day.
>>527327913Thanks for spending time to explain your side of things anon, but no need to spend more time explaining to me.Not that I’m ungrateful but I dont believe in the abrahamic god and never will, so dont want you to waste your time
>>527314097I used to have official speeches and debates in my highschool regarding creationism and evolution. Funny thing is, back then I used to back up evolution and used most of these arguments against creationism especially for Noah's ark as it is scientifically unfeasible.Oh how things have changed since then.When you get out of your own pride and indoctrination, realize your experiences are true and that you were not there when foundations of Earth were laid you can easily dismiss belief in "science" as it has no practical truthfulness for you but see it as web of lies designed to entrap you. Earth is 4.5 billion years old? You don't have anything good from believing in that, except it makes you feel insignificant. Earth is flat/globe/toroid? Cool, it doesn't affect anything I do as I can only see it the way I can see it and it doesn't really matter. Dinosaurs were real? Ok, cool looking feathers they are adding recently, artist impresions seem better and nicer. I'm a simple servant, but through God's grace and being made in his image I do have a purpose through helping others through my own experiences, and not purpose to serve the system that serves itself. Systems are designed to serve man, not for man to serve systems. That's why everything in bible is true, as it serves the man, and almost everything in science is not, as it serves the system you believe in.
>>527327210But you yourself said that we are creating the rules. Do you think that because we say things, they are the truth? Can you tell me the process behind any of the laws of this universe? The story is only impossible to you because you have limited yourself in a rigid set of rules that may or may not exist. You have outright stated a belief in a physical world only. Does the computer question who built it? Or because it exists does that mean it assembled itself. There is no existence that we can observe that was created without reason.
>>527327952 And you're trying to tell me that an event that marks the transition of the Pleistocene to the Holocene somehow validates an embellished narrative about a flood during the Bronze Age.....
>>527324822Chihuahua didn't exist in the days of the Flood. They were made subsequently through sin.
>>527314097>two of each animal>offsprings can only breed with each other>species goes extinct from continuous inbreeding
>>527328181Thank you for reading.
>>527326528Triggered.
>>527328235How did the first humans produce offspring without inbreeding?
>>527328235"You are to take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate; a pair of the of unclean animals, a male and its mate"2 of each animal is not scriptural.
>>527314097It's stupid, it didn't happen like your kike goy slop fairy tale book say it did, kikes as merchant during the babylon time, stolen their myths and stories, stories by the way were from the sumerians.The story go that Ziusudra (noah kike didn't exist), was a King of his own people and got warn by one of his gods that other gods intent to btfo the Earth. A thus it did happen, but it was his royal family on the boat and his farm animals, like cattle, goats, etc.At least is not complete made up like moses story.
>>527328208The noahs ark story is not just slightly outside of the rules. Its so antithetical to the rules. And I am not talking about the formal laws of physics. I am talking about even our implicit understanding of reality that our brains build to model reality. Trying to force the noahs ark story into the narrative of this world breaks everything so fundamentally that reality looses all implicit meaning and we cannot know or understand anything anymore.
>>527328327His sons took wives from the cities of the people of Nod.it is in the book.Noah is the father of the chosen peoples not all the peoples of earth.
>>527328223Literally every human culture on Earth has a Flood narrative.
>>527314097What amuses me about people who insist on a mythic shared history interpretation is: how does this differ in consequence from a literal interpretation other than occupying more of you brain with conjecture? You only have the veneer of a logical approach, and all you accomplish is denying scripture.
>>527314097Then you have become real stupid, why are you telling us this?If you mean a flood. Yes there was a big flood in the middle east area, this is recorded by civilisations that predate abrahamic retards by millenia
>>527328424>the 8 people who survived the flood then married people from another town
>>5273284007x8=56 that is the 7 clean useful animals and 1 unclean useful animals.The fowl of the sky being a dove and a raven so 14 birds.The total of animals 70.
>>527314097OP is not only a low IQ mutt but also 50% african (rest is mcdonalds grease).
>>527328522It is as if the people who were wiped out were a single group of people and thier half breed abominations not everyone on earth.READ THE FUCKING SCRIPTURE YOU MORON IT IS ALL THEIR WE ARE AT 9 PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD WHO HAVENT READ THE FUCKING BOOK BUT CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND IT.
>>527328424Im talking about the secular understanding of the first humans. The one which swedebro believes to be truth. The reason is very simple. He has been told his whole life that inbreeding will produce extinction. But, he does not have an answer to how the beginning of mankind could start without there being only inbreeding.
It's Karma for rejecting God.
The flood is a natural conclusion when the world has no believer.
>>527328400Maybe that is exactly the point. You can rely on other people, or authority figures known today as scientists to tell you our model of reality is right and therefore Noah's ark is a made up story.But imagine this, in your daily life and personal experiences without all ultramodern understanding of world and reality itself is there a thing that actually tells you it's not true?
>>527328522Noah is the father of the white race.You are a beast of the field sorry not sorry.
God wants to play with humans, but when there is no believer, then there is no play, so destruction, it is.
God created humans, not the other way around.
>>527314228they had flood myths, but none of them went full retard and suggested penguins walked thousands of miles across the earth to ride on their boat. only jews were capable of hitting that level of retardation.
>>527328400 Biblical literalism is the foundation that American Christianity is built on. Basically every Christfag in America outside of the Catholics has hitched their wagon to the concept of the bible being the literal unvarnished truth with no metaphor or ambiguity. They will go to any length, perform any mental gymnastic, embrace any silliness as long as it means that they can keep on believing the KJV to be the literal word of god, shat down from the heavens. As it turns out Calvin, Zwingli, Luther, and the others didn't think their theological spergout through.
>>527328483And nearly all of them are overblown and embellished rather than literal truth.
>>527328588The sad truth is people will read 7 books about a faggy british wizard with no parents but never read the Bible.
>>527328327Humans did not emerge from a single pair, but rather from a large population, eliminating the need for initial inbreeding.While early inbreeding was rare, it is generally believed that natural selection in early human populations helped remove the most harmful, recessive genetic mutations that inbreeding can create
>>527328765Ive read it, its badly paced terribly written and dull as fuckThe british teen is also similar but at least its a bit less dull, and vastly more coherentAlso its just a badly translated and out of order jewish desert tales, just read the original if you care about folklore
>>527328765Then they argue like their know it cover to cover word for word.Most people are sheep.
>>527328789Where did this large initial population come from? Do you have any specific evidence for this claim?
>>527328719The have to be like that because they have maneuvered themselves into a corner. Protestants invented the doctrine of "sola scriptura" to dispense with their need for the authority of any prior church. They cannot both believe only the Biblical text alone has authority, and not take every word in it literally.
>>527328715>Look at me, i'm smart, I know how pengiuns DIDN'T come to antarctica.You can use "scientific" theories you believe in made and controlled by modern jews, but it doesn't matter, you'll stay trapped that way.
Good thread lads. May the good Lord bless each of you.
>>527328765To be fair your story about faggy levantine wizards is kind of a dull read, even by the standards of narratives of the era.
>>527328851Interesting that you say the Bible is "badly translated" and not that the translation you read was bad.
>>527329007God bless you too.
>>527328851Reading the bible from start to finish is a fool's errand. You will get to leviticus and just get swamped with boring ceremonial law. Starting from the gospels is always the preferred way to read the Bible.
>>527314097being religious is counterculture for genz, just wait gen alpha will prob be athiest again to rebel
>>527314097tldr ark is a chest where you keep books.
>>527328921Exactamundo, and the emphasis is even more intense in America because in Lutheran Germany and Britain they developed something of a weakened church hierarchy. Far from the imposing apostolic edifice of the Catholic Church but it was at least something. Meanwhile American Christians are pretty much theological anarchists who resent any sort of church authority or check on the ability of pastor dumbass to spew his headcanon interpretation of scripture. As long as pastor dumbass' interpretation is excruciatingly literal it will not rankle the sensibilities of American Christians, even if they do pedantically pick at the edges.
>>527329062Athiest has no passion and build nothing. They are destined to lost, and be damned.
>>527314097the ship didnt land exactly here. they had to walk through the desert forever to get here. you wonder how they knew where to go.
>>527328914Homo sapiens evolved from a broader lineage of ancestral species (Homo heidelbergensis or Homo erectus) that already numbered in the thousands across Africa. Rather than appearing as a single "Adam and Eve" pair, modern humans emerged from a diverse, interlinked network of populations that had existed for millions of years.
>>527329270That just seems impossible swedebro.Why havent we observed a single instance of macro evolution in our lifetimes. Did all the species evolve to the point they are now and just finished. Of the billions of kinds of animals humans and insects why aren't there any major evolutionary changes that are observable? We havent even observed single cell organisms transform into multi cell organisms. You might try to show me a study done where scientists in a lab basically force two single cell organisms together for a couple of seconds call it a multi cellular transformation and then quietly not report that the organism dies instantly, but even that is under conditions not found anywhere else on earth. But, there is still not one single instance of a deer birthing a dog. A horse birthing a human etc etc etc. Why should I believe you?
>>527329270Non of my ancestors were homos.Big think if your dad was a homo how do you exist.
>>527330038Same way you were conceived: alcoholic confusion.
>>527328931you took the bait, penguins wouldve just flown.thats called 1488d chess
>>527330252That is a strange way to say your mum jacked my dad off into a cup but ok.
