HR whores will literally kick you out if you say you want the job cause you need money to survive. They actually expect you to say that you want to make money for the company and will work extra hours to achieve this with no overtime because you were born to make money for this company. Why do these Karens do this?
shut up boomer
>>528313180what are they supposed to say? to hang out with her? fucking idiot
>>528313180You're supposed to lie in job interviews, it's just standardWhen they ask "where do you see yourself in 5 years" you don't say "head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz II" do you?
>>528313180This is actually the correct answer
>>528313402Just fuck the HR whore? Have you tried that
>>528313306everyone knows you want the money. the question is "why are you applying to work here instead of Other Company?" and "why do you want to spend your life [sending emails]?"good companies don't want autistic drones, they want people who are going to be useful and actually interested int he job. otherwise just work at mcdonalds and have an easy life.
>>528314000there are no "good" companies.
>>528314000>good companies don't want autistic drones, they want people who are going to be useful and actually interested int he joblmao holy shit. My sides. Are you 16?
>>528313180Reposting a twitter screen cap of literal nobodies, multiple days in a row. Amazing work, anon.
>>528313180>not knowing how to lie during a job interview You just go ahead and depend on that education of yours.
>>528314055he is a useless office worker zero marketable skills.
>>528313402>You're supposed to lie in job interviewsand maybe people think that's fucking bullshit and we all know it and the only real cunts are cunts like you who keep going along with ityou're why women like that have power to begin with, have some fucking self-respect
>>528313180Question is literally >Justify to me why we should pay youAnd you morons just say, because I like money?Who fucking doesn't?
>>528313402In five years I see a vibrant and fit me walking hand in hand in a virtual field of wildflowers with my AI agent, Helga, while my other AI agent, Inga, prepares a hot bath for me and places my slippers next to our bed before she sends out my mail; meanwhile the real me, at the government holding facility for dissident thinkers, lies in a dark room atop a creaking smelly bed, while my nearly 400 pound carcass is sponged down by some aid worker named Jamal.
>>528313402They want you to lie to them. That man thought she'd take his blunt honesty as a virtue but he failed to realize that he was dealing with a retarded hole.>>528314000Faggot.
>>528314000>good companies don't want autistic drones, they want people who are going to be useful and actually interested int he job.You don't have to be interested in the job to be useful. >>528314197that is in fact not the questionyou're thinking of a different question
My life is my job I live to serve my kike masters and eat goy slop. I'd hate to disappoint noseberg by having a white child that might take away my working hours.
>>528313402It's chucklefucks like you why the job market is so fucked. Don't play their games, dont give inti their tricks. I tried the whole schtick and i speak perfect corpo speech, but at some point i decided it wasn't worth being a little cunt just for a paycheck. These HR whores need to be checked. >Would you interview me if you didn't get paid? This one sentence blows their entire spiel
>>528314000>why are you applying to work here instead of Other Company?Because it's closer to my home? Because you pay more? Because you have some benefits that others don't?What do you expect me to do? To bow down on my knees before your COMPANY(TM)?Fuck you, goydrone>good companies don't want autistic dronesFirst, not true, second, how would you explain the fact that you act like one?
>>528313402That made me audibly kek. Well done lad.
>>528314197>Justify to me why we should pay youLies. It's not the question she asked. She asked, "why do YOU like our company". It's a faulty question, no one likes "the company" (except some retarded drooling slavedrones who will work for free, but maybe she actually wants those, that's a possibility)
>hey, I’d like to work so I can eat>>um, no, sweaty, you must be a slave so our overlord can eatDaily reminder that feminism exists so that women can be given these positions of power.
“Why do you want this job?” “I don’t. Who the fuck wants any job? But how else am I gonna get a realistic shot at banging the shit out of you than to work in the next cubicle over?
>>528313180Turn it around on her, ask where she sees herself in 5 years and why she took the job. Women are like retarded children. They constantly seek attention so asking her about herself and life goals will probably get you a higher starting wage along with the job.
>>528313180Yes this is the way humans work. We lie to each other constantly. If you tell a girl that you just want her to shut up and let you put your dick in her, most of them won't like that either. Your autism is showing.
>>528314479No you moron, it's why you want the job. You list your skills appropriate for the job, maybe interests appropriate. It's not about the company at all, it's about YOUR SKILLSET.
>>528313180By responding bluntly you are directly confronting the HR stacy with the fact that the role she is playing is unnecessary and accomplishes nothing. She's been robbed of the opportunity to indulge in her clique-building instincts and that is a direct frontal assault not just on her ego but on her survival instincts.You will do better in life if you cultivate some humility. Learn to read situations such as these and somehow sidestep the problem without compromising yourself rather than treating every encounter with people holding power they do not deserve like it's a decisive battle in the course of your life that demands you emerge with a decisive and unquestionable victory.
It's the most basic question to check if you prepared to the interview and have basic communication skills. You have to be a massive retard to not understand this.
>>528313180Thats why an agressive corona pandemic is the solution
>>528313180BUMP. Fuck this paradigm.
>>528313180Undo operation warpspeedUndo covfefeLet corona spread naturallyNo social distancingRelease early strain corona (first wave, patient zero)
>>528314197>justify why we should pay youso recite my resume back to her, that she has in front of her?
>>528314000you sound unemployed
>>528314400>Because it's closer to my home? Because you pay more? Because you have some benefits that others don't?These are all much better answers than "money".But good answers would be.>it matches my skillsets and I've always taken an interest in this field>I read good reviews online about this company and I think I can do this job wellJust saying "money" is lazy and if you give that kind of "I don't need to respect bullshit convention" answer during an interview, what can they expect on the job?Also get a male oriented job.Females will ask retarded shit like "what's your work ethic, how do you feel about our company values?, you were unemployed for 3 months? Explain this gap?Men will ask>you know PLCs?>how to reverse 3 phase motor?>your work history checks out, see you next monday
>>528313180>They actually expect you to say that you want to make money for the company and will work extra hours to achieve this with no overtime because you were born to make money for this companythats just capitalism
“Why do you want this job?” “I dunno. Why do women spread their legs for and marry boring and unattractive but wealthy men?”
>>528314877we already know you are responsible for these canned HR questions vapid office whores, Rabbi. no need to remind us.
>>528313180foids absolutely destroyed the job market
>>528313180He gave her the ickWhat she posted is just the excuse. If a hot guy said that she’d have hired him
protip you fucking retard: i know you want the job for the money. if you didn't need the fucking money you wouldn't be fucking there. people who don't need the money tend not to apply for fulltime office work jobs.what i'm asking is out of all the jobs in the world, why did you pick this one to apply to? and if your answer is "lmao no reason really it was just available" then no fucking shit i'm not going to hire you over someone who actually wants this job.you are not as clever as you think you are, and giving that answer reveals that you are actually not even clever at all. it only reveals you're an arrogant cunt who thinks he's a genius yet can't even get hired at fucking starbucks."hurr durr i speak the hard truths"no you don't, you speak the obvious ones that everyone else already figured out and got past in fucking high school.arrested development fucking moron motherfuckers.
>>528314000anyone can be interested in a job if it pays your bills, it's not really that difficult. 99% of jobs are literally just clicking buttons around and any monkey could do them. it's time recruiters and companies stop pretending jobs are so complicated. unless you're a doctor, surgeon, physicist, engineer, etc., then your job is extremely easy to do and requires no experience whatsoever, let alone intelligence. just consider the fact that more foids have higher paying jobs than men nowadays.
>>528315336we have already established that women should have zero role to play in hiring anyone
>>528313402>where do you see yourself in 5 yearsCan't even tell them "doing your son" anymore because they're all childless...
Its the correct answer but you have to be good at larping with these idiots.
>>528314000The truth is exactly the opposite. They want you to lie cause they want soulless drones who just do what they're told. You're supposed to lie out of politeness because being blunt tells them you might actually think for yourself.
>>528315036no, retard. not "justify why we should pay you" but "justify why we should pay YOU" as in, why should they pay you instead of any of the other candidates who applied for this role"you realise hiring is a competitive process, right?your "hard truths" are just you being a fucking retard saying stupid childish fucking shit.
>>528315362looks like we found the faggot HR guy.
>>528314197In sales "money" is the right answer.
>>528313180The point of the question is to see whether someone has tact, understandings nuances in social interactions, and if they know how to put on a face for a corporation. All of those are skills needed for being successful in the business world. If you don't like it then don't apply for a corpo job.
“Under “list your last three employers you wrote Mary Anne Harwick, Julie Johnstone, and Florita Magana”. “Thats right. I’ve been self employed as a gigolo for the past five years. You see I also listed them as references.”
>>528315473yep. used to work in HR and then did consulting where i got to do restructures, i.e. firing people.i once fired 250 people in a single meeting.i have a different job now but you fucking people are stupid so here i am doing charity.
>>528314000Nigger where you live employees have rights. You speak from an ivory tower, beans and toast.
>>528315362>someone who actually wants this job.- If you think that answering "money" states that you don´t want the job, you are an idiot.
>>528313402>it's standard to lieYes this is the problem with the world and what he is complaining about, room-tempie, thanks for the insight
>>528315426listen, you talentless office bitch. i have several skills on my resume that would get you fucking FIRED if you played office bitch games with me. so, if i am in your office for an interview, someone from your office has asked me to apply. because i am not some useless fucking twat like yourself, that is out pounding pavement, begging for your blessing. so, go ahead, roll those fucking dice faggot.
>>528315362die in a circle of fire and nigger rape, faggot
>>528315622"someone who actually wants THIS job" not "someone who just wants any job" you fucking retard autist.you are deliberately refusing to understand simple fucking english because your feelings got hurt when i said you were being childish.and lo and behold, here you are being childish more
what a sad time to be alive
>>528315528What do about long gap in resume for no good reason?Lie and make stuff up, hiring some group/person to serve as fake reference?Or come up with an excuse a la health problems or something.Or just say "lol idk I guess I took a long vacation".
>>528315426jesus your shit is gay
>>528313180HR is cancer for businessIt is the most nepotistic department that ALWAYS turns in to a mechanism for the people in the department to do as little as possibleThey put such constraints and conditions on roles that you cant employ anyone who is even near to suitable, they have to be perfect, which doesnt happen because they already have a good jobThe job roles they create are so involved that people are immediately put off, be it through hours, benefits or whateverThey actually benefit from not employing people, it means their roles are justified
>>528315652lmao i'd just fire you as a client if you tried that attitude with me. if you don't want help then don't take it lmao.you're right, some people are so valuable they can do what the fuck ever and get away with it. i doubt you are one of those people and i think you are lying on the internet. however, even if you were, or regardless, that doesn't make them right about this question or this issue.hiring is a competitive process. the point of questions like this is to identify the best candidate. only a retard hires someone off paper alone.
>>528313180It's a litmus test to see if you will bend over backwards to kiss company ass.It's like dating, if a girl asks what made you chase her than any other girl, you don't go blurting, "oh it's because I want sex and you're the one giving me a shot at a date"
People are tired of pretending. They're tired of all the performative bullshit that you're expected to do every day just because you're "supposed to." No one gives a shit about feelings or appearances anymore. Why the fuck do you think I want this fucking job you retarded cuntrag? Fuck you, pay me.
>>528315362It doesn't inspire confidence, does it.
>>528315660No, you re wrong. This "if he doesn´t answer that he is so/her" bullshit is totally false. It comes from last century, where HR:s were told to ask that question to know if person is committed to working in that company "for ever". People just started lying and HR did not achieve anything. Better to take the honest one and not the liar, who said what you wanted to hear. I bet you have made this mistake many times and it might be the reason you don´t work for HR anymore. You hired liars. :D
>>528313306>>528313402>>528314000>>528313180Ignore all the NEETs giving you misadvice.The question aims to check whether you've done any research about the company. It's a very simple, routine check of whether you've put any effort into preparing for the interview and bothered to check what company / position you're even applying for.The HR lady was in the right here. Dude fucked up majorly.Example:>company makes car parts, breaks in specific>I've always loved cars since my childhood, blah blah blah. I'd like to contribute to making brake systems safer so fewer people get injured or die in accidents, it's very important, blah blah blahOr>I want to try something new, I like complex parts where cutting edge materials and design are used for real world applications that actually make a difference, if you compare brake systems from 50 years ago to now it's a massive difference thanks to the work done by your company blah blah blah
>>528314000Lol Get a load of this fag.
>>528315780>i think you are lying on the internet
>>528315362>giving that answer reveals that you are actually not even clever at all.If HR blinks at "money" they're toxic af and run. There's much better places to work at. You want clever while I want stacks and you to mostly stfu.>else already figured out and got past in fucking high schoolShow stacks of money or I gtfo.
>>528315715What is the employment history like before the gap? How long is the gap? I said I travelled for a few years working on farms and doing cash in hand jobs when I needed it.
>>528315832wtf i wrote? :D I ment to type:"if he doesn´t answer that he/she is motivated by the company or job" -bullshit
>>528313180>Why do these Karens do this?Because they're submissive to kikes who told them to do it and compensated them.It is retarded that institutions, groups, organizations, etc don't seem to recognize individuals need/want money too. They all think money exists exclusively for them. >>528314121>>528314000>>528314197>>528315498>>528315408>JUST LIE TO THEMI love how we're all raised on the idea that lying and cheating is bad -- but penalized if we don't do it and punished if we're honest. What the fuck do "humans" actually want from other humans?Non-stop bullshit? We also get told companies will fact check everything we say. So don't we dare lie! But if you don't lie, you're also stupid for not lying to them? Make up your mind, humans.
>>528315362>what i'm asking is out of all the jobs in the world, why did you pick this one to apply to?And that's retarded since people apply to gorillions of jobs.
>>528315982^this>This man is perfect for the job, but I won´t hire him, becaus he did not lie to me. :D T: ex-HR Aussie
>>528315913this. your people called me, i didnt go to some job fair. dont waste my fucking time with undergrad psychology bullshit. i already know what i am going to be making, that is why i am here.
>>528315362>"hurr durr i speak the hard truths">no you don't, you speak the obvious ones that everyone else already figured out and got past in fucking high school.This anon gets it. Dude thought he was "smart" by being "honest", but the answer was just lazy and retarded.He got filtered out by a basic simple question that revealed that he's a lazy slacker. People like that are very annoying to work with
>>528313180>he said he wanted the job for money >”that was a little too needy, NEXT!”
>>528315426Fwiw I broke my back 7 years agoRetraining for another area Very hard to get a job even when I volunteer to intern at 41 even for a reference... resume before my injuries was extremely solid
>>528316001This is for people without a career, otherwise you would apply to jobs that suit your interests while also paying you.I make a completely average salary at a job that I would be doing as a hobby if I wasn’t getting paid, and that’s worth something in terms of life quality.
>>528315715don't lie, do exaggerate. i've always felt lies are more trouble than they're worth but 1 month volunteering => 3 years. "working for family but now i want new experiences" or "my previous job was X but i left because Y and took a break for [proactive personal stuff] but now i'm ready and eager to reenter the workforce because..."basically you want to have a story that makes sense, not an 'excuse'; present it as a choice that you made confidently which paid off and now you're ready for the next chapter. for the vast majority of people you don't actually need to lie, you just need to tell the truth in the right way.people care about work history because past behaviour is a predictor of future behaviour but if you can give them confidence in some other way (e.g. the interview) it matters less. employers take a risk when they hire so they're looking for appeal and certainty, and these are different things. they might be willing to choose a less appealing candidate that they're more certain about.
>>528315982The point isn't to lie.
>>528315839>routine check of whether you've put any effort into preparing for the interview and bothered to check what company / position you're even applying for.Most companies are so behind that this response is going to be savage and brutal. If you want to sell me on your company, or care what it does, it must be cutting edge and offer life changing stock options.
>>528313180That's an autism test, not a real questionThe point of it is that are you able to read the room and give a good sounding answer instead of the truth
>>528313180>Why do these Karens do this?Because their entire career is based on giving people personality tests where they lie constantly. The concept of an honest answer is an assault on everything they are, it forces them to admit that everything they are and everything they do is complete bullshit.
>>528315982>I love how we're all raised [...]>I lovewhy do you say you love things that you actually hate?
>>528316281You shouldn't just want a job for the money because you're then you're a desperado with no plan who sees all jobs as busywork that is basically interchangable.
>>528315832again, you're just a fucking retard who doesn't understand that everybody already knows that you want the job for the money.the question is "why ELSE do you want this job OTHER THAN THE MONEY?". but normal people don't need that spelled out for them.if you don't have an answer to that question, it will probably be a point against you when i compare you to other candidates that do.>"but i'll just lie xD :))))"sure. and maybe you'll get away with it, if you're a half-decent liar. good interviewers ask followup questions but i doubt you've applied for many jobs that put that much effort into hiring.
>>528316140I can bullshit with the best of them, it's just awkward because all past experience is basically business and I'm wanting to get into academia (already have the degree).Thanks for the advice.>>528315917See above. Few years being a NEET because I got crushed by life then just inertia. So experience with work but no relevant experience to what I'd be applying to.
>>528313180Can we engineer a virus that only attacks HR people (and jeets)?
>>528314000>otherwise just work at mcdonalds and have an easy life.This is the problem in a nutshell. Corpos think working low wage work is having an easy life. That's how they justify it -- they are doing the hard thing and you are doing the easy thing.
>>528316458They are immune to sanity
>>528315715>What do about long gap in resume for no good reason?Figure out a way to fill it. Otherwise drugs or prison are the most likely conclusions. A long vacation sounds flaky af unless it's "my father's bucket list before he passed".
>>528314000Prince Andrew, working at mcd's is NOT an easy life. Maybe in bongland, but I strongly doubt it. How fares your gilded life?
>>528316458based japcel
>>528314000Do you know that's just a humiliation ritual? They want you to lie on purposeNo different from when they want you to say that men are women
>>528315913salary's listed in the job posting retard. "people want to be paid for their work" is something HR has long since figured out. you're just a fucking child who wants to feel special for saying obvious noncontroversial platitudes.>>528316001>And that's retarded since people apply to gorillions of jobs.yes and no. if you're unemployed then sure, but a lot of people who are employed target particular roles or opportunities that come up. maybe one of the reasons you think the question is retarded is simply because you've never been in a position to have a real answer to it, which i mean sincerely. like, there are roles that i've really wanted in the past not just because they pay more but because it's work that i want to do.>>528316134that's rough bro. good luck. i'm sure you're already across this but job search and support agencies can be very helpful if you qualify for any kind of disability.
>>528313402We need to kill all women as fast as possible, holy shit.IF YOU EVER GO TO A JOB INTERVIEW AND SEE A WOMAN, LEAVE
>>528315780>there are some people that are so valuable---congrats you useless bitch. you just met king dick head that your company made it rain to get me to come pull your stupid asses from the gutter, correct. you are welcome. i behave the way i do, because i am never, ever "looking" for a job. if i am standing in front of you, you can bet your ass that it is because some one very, very uncomfortable for you to upset, has called me.
>>528316281>>528316382congratulations, you just hired people who are not interested of the company, but sure as hell are willing to lie to you. The question is outdated. It lasted about 2 decades until people who hired alot stopped doing it. Now it is a question that really doesn´t tell you anything, but HR still asks it, because they don´t know any better. They only think that "hey, this is the golden question that must be asked." In these days the new trend is to ask a question like this: "What value you bring to our company."
>>528314197The justification is doing work they need done you womanbrained faggot simp with a blown-out asshole.
>>528313180id sue her and her company for discrimination
>>528315839In every single job interview that I've done, that was another question, and it usually comes first
>>528316688i'm sure you're very proud that the only way you can get people to tolerate your existence is through coercion, but i suppose all forms of life need to find a niche.if you were ever standing in front of me i'd just leave lmao. perks of running my own business is i get to choose my customers.
>>528313180 Any business with an HR is a corporate or wannabe corporate affair helmed by wannabe slavemasters. Big corporations especially do not want workers, they do not want employees, they do not want assets, they want SLAVES. They want to be able to squeeze you for hours, pile indignity after indignity on you, and at the end of it all cut your pay and for you to meekly say "thank you master". In their ideal world you would actually become their chattel when you signed a work contract. And as for why Karens act as taskmasters for these people? Simple: they're fat, self-absorbed, greedy bitches.
>>528313180Damn nigger we are really posting THREADS(?!?) Screenshot threads here now too?
>>528315362You are a globohomo nigger. Companies having infinite workers to choose from is satanic ZOG bullshit and the reason everything is fucked. Kill yourself yesterday.
>>528313180American psycho is a documentary. HR is the same.
>>528314000Everyone knows faggot, stop being apologetic for it
>>528314052There are. They hire people based on what they can actually do and learn. Usually there aren't more than like 5 women total.
>>528314197>literallyhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/39J1TIYLxME
>>528316639>you're just a fucking child who wants to feel special for saying obvious noncontroversial platitudes.HR is the retard for asking the question. I agree it's super easy to lie to but sometimes I just don't care to. In most serious roles HR doesn't have much say as the hiring manager makes most of the decision. Why should I play with HR when their opinion doesn't matter much ultimately.
>>528315362Someone who lies vs someone who tells the truth.
>>528313180Because the interview is not and never was about anything other than control. The test was social compliance and by being truthful and saying what you aren't "supposed to say" you failed the test. They want a good goy slave, not someone capable of independent thought or ability. It's literally the same kind of shit that dominates leftist thinking. Forcing other people to repeat obvious lies as a form of social control. Women have literally always been like this. They don't give a shit about the belief or statement itself, they only care that they can use it to socially force other people to think or act a certain way that they have a degree of control over. Anyone who won't play along is a threat.
>>528315839Nice. I'll remember it yeah it makes sense for white collar jobs
>>528315608>the right to have your daughter molested by a 47 year old pakistani
>>528313402I said "idk honestly" and it didnt matter. Just dont believe and awkward fag the whole time. Getting them to like you is pretty important.
>>528315362You are failing to notice the whole issue with such interview process. The way you respond and the way that HR stacy responded is looking for people they can power trip on. You expect people to be le enthusiastic about your job out of millions jobs out there and expect servile golems that do more than they are paid for, for friends and buddies whose competence lies in how friendly they are with you while pencil pushing.
>>528316458Will Baal be happy or upset if we sacrifice all his HR karens?
>>528316692>The question is outdated.in good interviewing, the question is the start of a conversation.>why do you want to work here?"well because i think that the research your institute is doing into using seaweed to clean up plastic is very interesting and i want to be involved."follow up questions like:>where did you hear about that?>what about it is interesting? (environmentalism, science etc. etc.); how long have you been interested in this?>ever done this kind of work before? ever had the chance to work on your passions? how did you find it?etc. etc.it's not that the answers to these individual questions matter, it's that i want to get a sense of your professionalism, your maturity, your tendencies as a person, and so on.so to give you an example, a hiring process that we used at a company i used to work at had 5 stages and the interview was the final stage. before you bitch it's because the job included 4 months paid training and was for train switching so it was important to not hire the wrong people and put them through 3 months of paid training only to find they were shit.anyway, by the time you get to the interview you've passed psychomotor testing, intelligence testing, personality testing and so on, so we know as best we can that you are *capable* of doing the job and we're sending you to train school so your skills don't matter, we'll teach you. the purpose of the interview is wholly and solely to decide if we like you, if you will fit in the team, if there are any interpersonal or personality red flags that don't show up in testing but are really obvious in person (e.g. doesn't shower and smells like piss). it's not "can you work for us" but "do we want to work with you?" or, maybe more precisely, "are you the right kind of person?"not all hiring processes are this involved but even a single stage process with just 1 interview should still have a section of the interview which is about this.
>>528313180The only companies I ever see ask this question are the bottom rung shit eaters that wouldn't be anyone's first pickIt's a real sign of company neuroticism, it's like they can't believe anyone competent would want to work for them so they assume you've got something wrong with you>>528315839>>528314000Case in point, I got asked this for a data role at a company that makes bricksWhy did I want to work there?Because it was local to me, paid well, the work looked interesting, and was similar to my data role at another manufacturing company What else am I meant to say??That I was inspired by Father Jack to really really love my fecking bricks?The interview was a shit show any way, I got on really well with the data guy but their head of IT was hostile to me right from the start, I worked out why he'd recently joined that company - because he was a brick headed prickTurned out the whole thing was a sham anyway, they'd not just had an internal candidate lined up in the role - he'd actually been working in that role several months before my interview - so the entire thing was probably bullshitAs I said, a shit question asked by shit companies
>>528313180I want that you lie skillful.
>>528314000the indian hires show that they want cheap drones
>>528313402This. Job interviews are literally just 2 people scamming eachother.Whenever I do a job interview unironically 95% of my responses are lies. Even if you get caught somehow they can't do anything so who gives a fuck lmao
>>528316936>In most serious roles HR doesn't have much saywell to be fair in most organisations HR is a complete joke full of retards so i wouldn't give them much of a say anyway lmao.that said, usually interviews are done in a panel format where HR is one of the members so the hiring manager will also be witness to your stupid answers.>>528317035>You expect people to be le enthusiastic about your jobno i don't. but if i find one who is, i'm gonna hire them over someone who doesn't give a shit. should i not?hence why the question is asked.you're just being dumb on purpose.
The job interview is a shittest, it selects for the best liars.You inevitably need someone inside the fold, who can tell you what type of lies the company is expecting on the application. The idea that the company actually selects for high value people is a complete joke, it doesn't work that way at all. Know someone on the inside, lie, that's all you need to do.
>>528317035Of course it is, middle management positions and hiring positions lure in the lowest of the low power tripping retards who were too weak to go follow their power trips fully to become cops/military.And as you can see with HR catladies and this faggot aussie that I'm not bestowing a (You) to,>Pathetic power corrupts pathetically
>>528315362Lol, get a load of this cunt>>528317035This guy gets it
>>528316639Surprisingly they kind of suck if you have the sort of background that lends itself to doing more than bending coathangers. Really solid customer service, technical work, even publishing before this. Workcover does more damage than the injury lolThat said I'm retraining as a counsellor to help people navigate what I went though and worse. They will never keep me down, I'll alwayswork for my living and try to leave thing better than when I found them
>>528313402that's a guaranteed PROMOTION where i'm from
>>528316260>If you want to sell me on your company, or care what it does, it must be cutting edge and offer life changing stock optionsThose companies don't host standard recruitment interviews. You don't apply to them. They contact you with an offer. If you're talented guy able to contribute to cutting edge stuff, you'll be under constant job offers bombardment from different companies.
>>528317345>i wantVs>i can offerThe unimaginative always reduce everything
>>528317253it's funny though because one side clearly buys into it mentally to the point they lose site of their lie and begin to think it's real
>>528314000Autistic drones are the best employees. >just want to be left allone so they try to do jobs fast and perfect so they dont have to deal with the stress of talking>wont hang out with coffee>wont jump jobs every 2-3 years for better pay due to avoiding the stress of jobinterviewsFuck HR roasties
>>528313180Why the fuck would anyone take a job for another reason?Women should not be allowed to interview men for job openings. Women shouldn't even be able to obtain employment.
>>528313241Shut up roastie
>>528314000Because fuck you! That's why.
>>528317121>so to give you an example, a hiring process that we used at a company i used to work at had 5 stages and the interview was the final stage. before you bitch it's because the job included 4 months paid training and was for train switching so it was important to not hire the wrong people and put them through 3 months of paid training only to find they were shit.Right...Your paid training is irrelevant to the interview process What you're saying is you put people through a load of bullshit and it's only after that that they get to ask you questions to see if they want to work for youInterviews are meant to be a two way street, that should be the first stage before putting people through the ring you gimp
>>528316692>>congratulations, you just hired people who are not interested of the companyNobody is fucking interested in companies anymore, Juhani Jesse Johannes. Why would you give a single shit about the company you work when loyalty isn't rewarded anymore? You can be the best employee in your department but still get let go because you asked for a sensible raise. I figured a Fin would understand that considering how fucking garbage the job market is there, at least from what I heard.
>>528317253 The problem is that if you start any relationship with lies then it can be nothing but dishonest. You lie to an employer who is getting an HR Karen to put you through a dishonest golem test and get the job. There is zero trust before you even clock in your first hour, so why should you have any in the company at any point during your tenure there? So you lie, you cut corners, you goof off when you should be working, you scam them in all sorts of little everyday ways because not only do you not have any trust in your employer, you have no respect for them and the only thing keeping you from being a total nigger on their time is the fear of being fired. Meanwhile your employer is just as bad, they expect this of you because they know they lied to you and they might as well keep on lying because as far as they're concerned you're just a little profligate shit who barely made the cut. So they dick you around whenever possible, make you work extra hours, call you on days your supposed to have off, force you to put up with their shitty entitled attitude and they feel absolutely justified in punishing you for real and imagined transgressions. If you're actually competent and work hard then you're an idiot who needs to be milked for all he's worth before he wises up and starts lying, cheating, and slacking off like everyone else. This is how third world shitholes operate, no trust, no goodwill, just an an assumption that everyone else is as shitty as you are that ultimately turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
>>528317121>in good interviewing, the question is the start of a conversation.It's a boomer question. You lose Z's and anyone with self respect.>>where did you hear about that?>>what about it is interesting?Total boomer.>>ever done this kind of work before? Resume.>i want to get a sense of your professionalism, your maturity, your tendencies as a person, and so on.You'll hire a bullshit artist and rot the company. There's far better questions that sell the company and working for you.>hiring process that we used at a company i used to work at had 5 stages Nope. Thanks for your time. If you can’t interview me and send me an offer letter that week I'm taking an offer from someone that will. 5 stages is appropriate for boomers and C level executives or functional retards.>job included 4 months paid training and was for train switching Most places it takes years to get someone trained so they're not a danger. You're not special.>3 months of paid training only to find they were shit.Test that they have boundaries and aren't flakes.>you've passed psychomotor testing, intelligence testing, personality testing You were hiring functional retards then filtering out any that weren't a touch train autistic.
Nobosy cares why you want the job. The point of the question is to see if you have the social acumen to provide an answer that isn't just "the money."
>work for HR, you hire people>first job interview coming, what to ask?>remember some slogans>ask them without any data or studies about the real benefits>make a decision based on question that are hearsay>do this your whole career>get challenged in animeforum>call other anons retards>profitI know that you have not read anything about behaviorism OR how effective your line of questioning is in reality. You just say what others have said to you. In short: you should look how the person reacts to your questioning, not what he lies to you.>>528317671You are right.
And this whore bitch posts and laughs! I sure hope this is a fake post.Shame this whore and she should be sued and unemployable world wide doxed.This whore is laughing while some person is probably struggling trying to find a job so they can put a roof over their head and food on their table. Maybe they have children.4Chan should do a dox this bitch world wide and shame her to no end, front page news campaign. A good deed.God damn entitled bitch.
>>528317699>Nobody is fucking interested in companies anymore, Juhani Jesse Johannes.Not true. I wouldn't want to work for social media parasites, or fucking microsoft or crypto scammers. And would accept a slightly lower pay to work on something I'm personally interested in, like industry, manufacturing, security, AI or glownigger type of work. Shit I would give a fuck about and/or feel pride in my work.
>>528313180A HUGE number of Americans come from rich families and don't ever get a job until they finish school, maybe law school or business school. This class of person doesn't actually work for money per se, I mean they do, but they consider admitting that crass and low class.If you're not a high IQ psychopath from a rich family who knows the game then they don't want to be around you.
>>528313180Imagine if you acted like this on a date>So Anon, why do you want a relationship?>So someone can help keep house and fuck on my dick, of course.Now that roasties control the world you need to play coy games with them 24/7, sorry.
>>528317259>usually interviews are done in a panel formatWtf. Once you get past working as a functional retard the interviews are over lunch or a casual zoom meeting. HR isn't involved until they've been essentially told to hire you.
>>528317699>Nobody is fucking interested in companies anymoreI´d say that, yes, this is the trend and therefore you should hire those who are honest to you. Not those who lie to you without blinking an eye.
>>528314850What the fuck are you on about you fucking moron? If anyone needs to learn humility its the stupid cunt that wants to be indulged with a lie. You work for money, not love, retard.
>>528317909For example: if European Space Agency was recruiting people with my expertise and experience level, and I got an interview, I'd be very excited about it. Or industrial robotics manufacturers. Or military / glownig type of work.
>we only accept people who work for fun
>>528313180It's because money is obvious but you should have more of a why than just money
>>528318035People with dead end jobs do. Not people who want to improve things. Your biggest idea is what to eat for dinner
I wish you all a totally holistically relaxing day!
>>528317786>This is how third world shitholes operate, no trust, no goodwill, just an an assumption that everyone else is as shitty as you are that ultimately turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy.Worse, modern work environments work like a communist country. Everyone is an enemy waiting to rat on you for 30 silver coins; nobody believes the official version, but everyone repeats it cynically. Your superiors are always right, and you're expected to worship the leader over all things
>>528315362>protip you fucking retard: i know you want the job for the money.Prove it.
>>528315362I was an engineer and I made more money than your bitch ass ever did when I was working and I played none of these games. Sorry you're a dumb fuck too stupid to figure out a way around this shit or youre so fucking underqualified you have no leverage. Why do I want this job? Well I could try your competitors and help them bury you like you deserve, stupid brainless drone. Think before you post next time. Dumbass. Youre making our nation look worse than it already does.
>>528313402No, but I'm going to start saying that now.
>>528318070>get glownig job>many actual niggers and women in charge>they're all incompetent - and they're your boss>many do no workYea something to be proud of.
Most job interviews are nothing more than performative art.We want you - this is a formality.We don't want you - we need to conduct x # of interviews to satisfy the company's hiring stats.HR exists to protect the company. They do not give one shit about the employee.
>>528314000I hire and I don't do this shit. Especially when I know the poor fucker sent 3000 resumes to get the interview. My company is not special. I do not expect him to remember who he applied to months ago when I suddenly and arbitrarily call him and ask if he can come to an interview tomorrow. I do not care what he knows about our company history because it has nothing to do with doing his job. You minimally qualified? You show up on time? Are you willing to exchange x labor for y wage? You're hired. Your performance will be scrutinized but if you simply don't fuck up you can stay as long as you want. I have time to do this because I'm not wasting time during the day dicking around on corpo culture bullshit. No woman should be allowed to hire and no nepokike should be anywhere near hiring policy. Fuck your whole existence faggot. You can do better but you choose not to.
>>528313402Lying is an IQ test.Navigating feminine social signaling is an emotional IQ test.Women want high IQ dark triad psychopaths around them and in them.Telling the truth is unironically a low IQ signal.
>>528318225I wouldn't be surprised if this was established at first as a way to avoid a lawsuit for not hiring niggers
>>528317845>you should look how the person reacts to your questioningThis. The "umm" and how long you pause is what I'm looking for. After you interview a bunch of people those tells are impossible to fake. I know your answer might be a lie but I can absolutely watch the gears crank in your brain.
>>528313180Females are highly performative. They need a constant performance and loath the real and honest truths of the world (think makeup, or fashion, or other affectations she engages in). Once you're done with the interview "kabuki theater" you can begin to let the facade down.
Also anyone who posts job listings and holds interviews without intending to hire deserves to be tortured to death.This is not a radical or negotiable opinion.
>>528318191The women and niggers working as glownigs are all outliers. You don't treat or judge outliers based on the general base group they are coming from, but as unique individuals. I don't think you'll see sub 120 IQ people working as proper glownigs, unless you're in some department where nepotism is the main way to get there - but that shouldn't be relevant to you in the first place.
>>528318121 Oh yes, though I'll add communism is just secularized semitism. Semitic cultures have operated like this for centuries, authority is the only real source of truth in both semitic religion and thought. There is no concept of Logos in Judaism and Islam, in their religion God is right because he is all-powerful and no other reason. And even before the advent of Abrahamism they were a culture of gruel-fed slaves kissing the feet of a few palace-dwelling effendi and either backstabbing each other for their favor or trying to sneak coins out of their pockets.
>>528313180Why is HR giving the job interview? Is it for another HR position?
>>528315652Anon you sound like such a massive fucking faggot I'm a little embarrassed for you
>>528317671>What you're saying is you put people through a load of bullshit and it's only after that that they get to ask you questions to see if they want to work for youi don't care whether they want to work for me until i know that they are actually capable of doing the job. if you want to work for me but can't do the work then i don't give a shit.>>528317787actually we filtered the foamers too.anyway the vast majority of your post is waffling attempts at a gotcha. you made one substantive response:>[if you ask people interview questions and have conversations with them, then] You'll hire a bullshit artist and rot the companybut you're much more likely to do that if you don't do any followup at all.you say i should know whether you've done this work before by reading your resume? okay. what if you lied on your resume and don't actually know fucking anything about it, and a single simple question would have shown that? you think people lie in interviews but don't lie on their resumes?this is what i mean. you people want to speak the hard truths but the shit you say is just fucking stupid. of fucking course i should ask followup questions about the claims you make on your resume. even leaving aside the "do i want to hire this candidate" part, it's basic fucking step one common sense to test whether or not you were fucking bullshitting.as for>Most places it takes years to get someone trained so they're not a danger. You're not special.i didn't say i was. i said i worked for a company that had a multistep hiring process to try and reduce money wasted on training unsuitable candidates who drop out. this is a completely normal and reasonable thing to do. you're the retard who is desperately constructing a strawman so that you can feel like you took down the big bad HR demon.
>>528318171>allow me to complain about games i don't have to playi don't believe you lmao
>>528314000>Why do you want to work here instead of thereI applied to both, you pay more.>Why do you want to spend your life doing XBecause it makes me money.
>>528313402>When they ask "where do you see yourself in 5 years" you don't say "head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz II" do you?Thanks for the coaching anonThis is just what I needed to land that frycook job at McDees
>>528318612When did I complain? All I did was insult your stupid ass. No wonder youre the one stuck interviewing new "talent" lmao. Keep powertripping on 4chan of all places though kek.
>>528318469I was in the U.S. intelligence community for many years. Tons of niggers, sheboons, and women.
>>528318402Yes. Me personally, I know almost in the same moment we shake hands. How is your grip, where you look, how you say hello or your name. What i need to know after that is:- is he honest- does he know his craft or has the skill set- ishe willing to learn- is he on time- how much value he brings- hong long period he can workAll this: where you see yourself in 5 years, what motivates you - types of questioning is not based in ANY data or study. Just hearsay and habits.
>>528318681actually, like i said, i do the firing now not the hiring.>powertrippingyour only posts in this thread are you trying to "take me down a peg" because apparently despite having no complaints about hiring processes you're still butthurt enough about them to see the people involved in those processes as the enemy.i just don't get it, anon. explain your enormous brain to me. i'm sure it's a beautiful mind.
>>528318654I actually got a job at McDonald’s in high school after telling the manager I didn’t think the Holocaust was real. No shit.
>>528315982>I love how we're all raised on the idea that lying and cheating is bad -- but penalized if we don't do it and punished if we're honest.>>528317290>The job interview is a shittest, it selects for the best liars.This is part of why Indians get ahead so easily Aside from being literal sycophantic cattle who will work for peanuts, they are all pathological liarsIt is in their culture and blood, lying is second nature to themI didn't realise the extent of it until finding out they have a concept called Izzat, just like Jews have chutzpah. Never trust a race of people that have lying and bullshit as a proud term, they think that dishonesty is a mark of out smarting and outwitting the other party, not that it is dishonourable
>>528318758I have posted exactly twice before this one, and judging by your automatic and dedicated replies, I have clearly gotten under your skin. Im not even going to bother explaining shit to you because im not getting paid to educate special needs kids, like you.Hilarious. But keep doubling back, youre sure proving me wrong that you arent just a stupid cunt!
>>528318734How would you rate it? Would you say that actual glownigs often lacked competence, or that the less competent ones were more of a paper-pusher type of job? Certainly there were also good parts, right? Why did you quit?
>>528318555There you have it anonThey shouldnt be and dont hire for department reasonsThe more positions to fill justifies more staff in HR, means less actual work for the department, they literally sit and think up ways to combine roles/create the most difficult multi role positions and dont hire anyone less than perfect for those rolesProblem is, those type of people already have jobs and trying to get them to hire someone who has the potential is nearly impossible
>>528313180>They actually expect you to say that you want to make money for the companyNo, the humiliation ritual correct answers are shit like >I wish to be part of a team, enrich the workplace with all these credentials I obviously embellished, and earn izzat to X non-white race
>>528316382You retard. Who said the candidate applied ONLY for this job at this company?"Why do you want to work here as possosed to elsewhere" implies that that person isn't also applying elsewhere, which is rarely the case. So it's a wrong question.
>>528318846all you're saying is that you're so valuable that you don't need to compete with other applicants for jobs and can do whatever the fuck you want. refer to: >>528316761
>>528315362>>528315426You reek of entitlement and gatekeeping. The point of these questions is to gauge if the interviewee is capable of on-the-spot bullshitting or smalltalking, which guarantees the person causes less issues in the workplace.But what you are doing is just exerting the power you got, saying "ppl oughta justify their choices to me". Dumb fucking cunt.
>Be HR, hire for engineering>Have 2 openings, 3 applicants>one pajeet, one feminist, one white male>pajeet says, I applied because I am interested about your company>feminist, I applied because I´m intrested about your company>white male says: money>You hire the indian and the feminist, because they didn´t say "money".>profit
>>528318257>Telling the truth is unironically a low IQ signal. Peak midwittery. Just smart enough to understand the immediate benefits of lying. Too stupid to understand the long reaching problems that lying causes.
>>528313402>When they ask "where do you see yourself in 5 years" you don't say "head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz II" do you?No, I say "head of the eugenics department for the Fourth Holy Roman Empire".
>>528318934>"Why do you want to work here as possosed to elsewhere" implies that that person isn't also applying elsewhereit literally does not.>>528318963oh my god, the hiring manager is gatekeeping the job that they're hiring for?????? it's almost as if that's literally their fucking job.>The point of these questions is to gauge if the interviewee is capable of on-the-spot bullshitting or smalltalkingthat's not the only point of them, but it is if you're a retard who is bad at interviewing.
>>528313402>you are supposed to lie>every good relationship is started based on a lie>EVERYONE lies so that means you have to as well>if you aren't willing to lie and I am then I win. GET FUCKEDYa no thank you
>>528313180Based. Were supposed to all have intergenerational homesteads that manage room and board. Jobs/employment are supposed to be one of the many ways humans voluntarily organize to create the future they want to see. When big pharma is filled is ops pic you get broken countries, broken ecomomies, broken social fabrics, broken healthcare systems, if big pharma was filled by part time farmer philosophers youd get med bedsDont fall short. You can net more red meat with a sharp stick than a minimum wage job
>>528318950Actually, if you could read, I did say "when I was working", implying I am no longer working.How am I meant to even converse with you? Youre too fucking stupid to even understand me?They let YOU decide who works at your company? Whos cock did you lick? I wouldn't let you decide what pair of shoes Id buy next.
>>528319036>the hiring manager is gatekeeping the job that they're hiring for??????The hiring managerKekThats the issue, you have someone doing the hiring that doesnt know the job they are hiring for because they dont actually do anything related to the job unless its HROne of the biggest waste of company resources and is thankfully being phased out at many companies as they realize one of the biggest savings they can make is cutting HR budgets
>>528319169bold of you to assume i even read your whole posts, let alone read them carefully
>>528318963>The point of these questions is to gauge if the interviewee is capable of on-the-spot bullshitting or smalltalking,ThisIt's a contest to hire the best liar. You lieThey know you're lyingYou know they know you're lyingThey hire you because you lie better than the others.
>>528319197Oh? The old "I wasnt even reading!" But you could report back to me on some things that were said? Youre so fuckin mad lmao, this is why youre hard capped at mid management retard-kun. Who needs to "take you down a peg"? Youre already on the bottom one!
>>528318238Wish there were more hiring managers like you>>528318459Agreed, see >>528317142
>>528316714Why hire you and not H1-B visa
>>528319287what was that you were saying about desperate instant automatic replies again?oh, that's right, "judging by your automatic and dedicated replies, I have clearly gotten under your skin."go ahead and make another post i won't read lmao
Neet of 15 years "Anon I'm going for it, I'm going to apply for a job, the grocery store is advertising a night job, it will be chill, its extra money, I'll get it no problem" HR "Doesnt know anyone at the company, is white, is a male, doesnt have a degree, hasnt worked in retail since age 13, didnt declare he's highly motivated for this wonderful opportunity to drive the company forward, didnt mention he was eager to become management for 0.20 extra per hour" Graduate "Fuck yeah brahs, finally graduated, where the graduate jobs at" HR "Here is your elaborate application that includes every detail you could possibly think of, please include a video practical. Don't forget to download the app to complete the psychometric tests. If you are selected for interview the assessment centre will be spread over 2 full days, will include various tests, group activities, one on one interview, group interview" HR "How many boxes has he ticked, quite a lot. Has he ticked the white straight male box? Yes. Tough luck, better luck next time chud"Email "Thank you for your interest, unfortunately on this occasion you have been unsuccessful. Please note, we do not accept future applications from failed applicants, we wish you the best of luck in your future endeavours"
>>528319062You miss the point, autistIf you have to lie, don't have any enthusiasm about what you might do because it's all rote work to you, the company or industry could be anywhere, then you're not fit to progress past entry level. Hard to summon orgasmic joy at selling nails but if you can't visualise growing or adding something to the place, then you will 100% be taking from it and your colleagues.Maybe you just need to find something you arr into. Maybe you can be honest and say you're just trying to find your feet in a good industry. "GIZ A JOB CUNT" doesn't work
>>528313180>HR will literally kick you out if you say you want the job cause you WANT* moneyYes. Now fuck off. We don't need leeches on our payroll.
>>52831888980/20 rule. 20% do 80% of the work. Lots of deadweight but enough money to solve any problem by just throwing money around.
>>528316761 you clearly have never been told this, so I am going to give you the first honest advice you have ever gotten. you have no idea what you are fucking doing and you are incredibly brazen about it. you clearly deal with nothing more than entry level workers and temps and never get put in the same room with highly skilled professionals, because they will eat you and your little bullshit act alive. i dont ever meet people like you, so i am very polite, efficient and effective in what i do. you should stick to what you actually know and hand me my fucking insurance forms to fill out so we can both have a productive day, m8.
>>528318991Yea if you lie enough long enough you might end up like Trump or Elon - rich and powerful.
>>528313402>head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz II
>>528317142this
>>528319339And yet you keep replying.Curious. What happened to your other discussions again?
>>528319188Another practise that is being phased out due to liability is the delegation of ACTUAL HR to line managers, over the years HR duties like annual leave, sick leave, grievance policy, timekeeping have been passed onto line managers that aren't trained etc and have exposed companies to malpractice due to not following correct procedures, lack of data protection etcThats what HR is for but they started getting involved in policy, huge mistake and again something companies are reigning in due to amount its costing them
>>528314850So be a good little bitch of the jews and suck it up. Huh. Wow, Charles. Its no wonder you faggots worship a dead dynasty of inbred faggots. If Henry the Eighth saw today's world, he'd personally suck off Guy Fawkes to make sure he'd finish the job. Society has become truly retarded and you indulge in it.
>>528319352the thing i have come to realise in this thread is that these people are so fucking unpleasant that they only way they can possibly sell themselves in an interview is to just lie about everything - who they are, what they want, why they're there.like, i go into an interview and just tell the truth. it's a "best possible version" of the truth but it's not like i'm lying when i say that i'm interested in the role and think i'll learn a lot and develop as a person through it, or whatever. if i wasn't, i wouldn't apply.but these people are husks. they are totally disengaged from the world and from their own humanity and so in hindsight of course they have to lie. their whole life is just pretending to be human. the problem here is that they think this is normal instead of an extremely weird fringe. yes, everyone "lies" in job interviews, but there's almost nobody i've ever met where literally everything they say is a lie.but here they are in this thread.anyway. learn something new every day.
>>528319496They are hard work but I feel a sense of responsibility for them.
>>528315362Your employer isn’t special, retard. Quit being a power tripping cunt and ask actually relevant questions. But you can’t, can you? Because that would require you to actually have knowledge of the role you’re hiring for instead of being a worthless HR faggot.
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>>528319412And presiding over a crumbling empire of mutts, mongrels, and greedy midwits like (you). I'd rather be peasant in a white ethnostate than a prince in Africa. Is being an Epstein Islander really your idea of an ideal life?
>>528315362>. it only reveals you're an arrogant cunt who thinks he's a genius yet can't even get hired at fucking starbucks.It shows hes honest you DUMB FUCKING CUNT.
>>528319407>never get put in the same room with highly skilled professionalsi get put in rooms to fire them because their own managers are fucking cowards who get intimidated by your little act.what are you gonna do anon? punch me?fucking lmao>>528319421no u>>528319528i've been posting on this website for 19 years and all i feel is contempt to be honest. like, how do they not realise that the only common variable across all of their failures is their own shitty attitude? but you're a good man if you still care.
>>528314000Waste of trips. The only answer is "because you look rapeable and are not walking out of this room unmolested"
>>528319384>80/20 rule. 20% do 80% of the work. Lots of deadweightSounds like every office ever lol
>>528319496You are definitely from HRThat elevated sense of self importance without any reason fits right in to that department The way you view others that disagree with you as being wrong because you are so set in your own little bubble is another classic sign
>>528319611Dont worry I checked this guy, hes just retarded.
>>528319628The worst HR people are British backpackers who don't leave.
>>528319643I care to the extent that I've carried various burdens in my life but eventually find a way through.I don't really care about the middle class ones who have never had a sniff of pussy lol.
>>528319287What I find funny is that he's proud that he's no longer involved in hiring but instead in firingsHe probably thinks he's more important, but the reality is probably that he was such an unlikeable cunt that he was shuffled into a role where the people he deals with are the people the company no longer gives a shit about, instead of giving new hires a bad first impression
>>528319653Self importance is only ever asking what you'll get from an exchange.
>>528313180Why do companies hire their literal functioning capacity (workers) through such a frivolous exclusively women dominated bullshit like HR ? The Managers should hire people. Wtf.
>>528319774kekLiterally replies in HR speak
>>528319770>ai replacing creatives is good>all government workers should get the axe>any job whose complexity is above my understanding is a fake job>but I'm the special boy, give me moneyJust stay on the dole bro we got this
>>528313180I get 33k$ a year neetbux for having a depression booboo and waggling my tiny penis to cute girls on the internet, I think I’m goodMust be fun doing a whole song and dance just for the opportunity to be belittled in a pre-interview for some fictitious job they’ll hire someone’s niece or nephew for
>>528313180Allowing women in the work force was a massive mistake
>>528319628but normal people can also give honest answers that aren't just "i don't give a shit i will just do anything for money">>528319611>Your employer isn’t special, retard.you're the one who chose to apply, retard.you're essentially walking into the interview saying "i don't give a fuck i will do literally anything for money what dick do i need to suck to get this job?"and like, if that's your attitude i probably don't want to hire you anon. sorry.>"but it's HONEST"yeah it's an honestly shit answer.>"okay then i'll just lie"why not just apply for a job that you don't have to lie about wanting.>"because nobody will hire me and i don't want to work and i hate all jobs!"sounds like a you problemand yes, that's a strawman, but i don't really see what your alternative is. why can't you just answer the questions honestly and not apply for jobs you don't want?>>528319735same i guess. i feel like people have to hit rock bottom before they can overcome their own self-delusions about their own self not being the problem.
>>528319774Asking what you'll get is part of any exchange
>>528319825NTA, just see how you fish eyed brain dead bastards live (and die) by your reductiveness. Next you'll be wheeling out that you don't need to learn any new marketable skills, the government should just give you a nuclear family, house and chevrolet.
>At their most foundational level, woman is instinctively repulsed by honesty
>>528313180So they want to hear the current buzz words? So what are they? "My strength is the diversity I add,and diversity is strength. I just want a better life for my loved ones and community. Safe and effective."
>>528318823>I didn't realise the extent of it until finding out they have a concept called Izzat, just like Jews have chutzpah. Never trust a race of people that have lying and bullshit as a proud term, they think that dishonesty is a mark of out smarting and outwitting the other party, not that it is dishonourablejust like argies have viveza criolla, or brazilians jeitinho
>>528315362uhhh oohhh melty
>>528319918We learned today that this is not the case when the other party holds the cards. >>528319913Some of them are brats, some of them are brutalised. We are both probably at an age where we feel some sense of needing to fix the mess
>>528319968You keep saying it's honesty but it's really admitting you don't have a clue.
>>528319653>Self importanceYeah I think I'm important and I know how to tell others how important I am. That's how I get the job by explaining why and how it is that I'm important
>>528315362It depends on the job. If it's some low level thing, then who cares if the guys just there for the money. I'd be surprised if that isn't the answer. If it was something higher up then I'd agree with you
>>528319868Lucky neet. I'm working in the local municipality though, so it's basically neet-light.
>>528319934>new marketable skillsAnother buzzphrase that means fuck all to anyone that isn't in HRWhat marketable skills do I need as an AI dev, cleaner, financier, absolutely noneYou can either do the job you are employed for or not, marketable skills are convincing people you can do something you cant i.e. talking enough bullshit that you can convince the "Hiring Manager" you are right for the role that they dont understand because all they do is HR
>>528315839>she was trying to see if you looked up the company beforehand1. Then ask if they have researched the company. Shit testing men is behavior that should have stopped when she was a teenager, it is toxic passive aggressive behavior and is not some sort of sage like elucidation.When I hire people I want them to be able to do the job, not play word games. Hiring people for social nonsense is how you get lead in your water.2. If I responded by saying "interview's over, here's my address, come over later" you have a better chance of landing the job than answering honestly. This woman is abusing her position for emotional validation.
>>528320015>Holds the cardsGet up and leave, lol
>>528320171Mmmm, buzzwords like "doctor," "engineer," "teacher," "site foreman." Even testing on brevity you'd be filtered as a schizo
>>528320076Which is right, what isn't right and is a major failing in business is having you as a potential employee having to do that with a person that doesn't have a complete understanding of the role you are applying for
>>528320218Back to the dole then They will find someone who will play
>>528313180The triumph of bourgeois values
>>528320261Do you want your electrician to be good at safely wiring your house or holding a conversation.>why not bothIf you make social skills as important as doing the job, people who focus exclusively on social skills will beat out both people who focus on competence and both.
>>528319913>you're essentially walking into the interview saying "i don't give a fuck i will do literally anything for money what dick do i need to suck to get this job?"Not only is that not what the interviewee is implying, it’s practically the opposite of what he is implying. You would have to be retarded to think that is the implication of his response. He is telling you that there is nothing special about the job, only that he requires a job and you require an employee with his skill set, so working for your company is mutually beneficial even though there is nothing special about your company in particular.Your shithole company is not special, and you would have a better and more productive workplace is you weren’t a midwit that feels the need to purge every high performer that doesn’t dance like a monkey through the interview process. It’s ok for people to just need a job and it’s ok for you to just need to pay someone with the intelligence to perform tasks that you’ll never understand.
>>528320275I remember being interviewed by the product manager and engineers. Worst interview of my life because they assumed shit about my work and didn't even let me explain why I did in my previous position.
>>528320380Associating being employable with being middle class is Nafri brained.https://youtu.be/aV69I6-2G0o?si=DeShzzEGwTxW-nw0
>>528320261has absolutely no relevance to the point I was makingagain what do any of the jobs you mentioned have to do with >new marketable skillsnone, all the jobs you mentioned should be rated on experience and qualifications, who needs a doctor that got the job because they are an avid basket weaver
>>528319036>it's almost as if that's literally their fucking job.No, its not. Thank you for proving your fundamental misunderstanding of your role. Your job is to judge if a candidate is a good worker and fit for the company. The idea that you possess to competency and knowledge to gatekeep every single specific job in the company is OUTLANDISH. From the words you are writing, it is clear you are misinterpreting your role mostly as a "delegated authority" position - you are a deputy that thinks he is the law. You are not the law, you are the guy that pads someone down for weapons and checks if they are somewhat presentable.
HR whores are a great example of how liberal "I'm an empath" whores will turn into the biggest cuntoids with even a shred of power
>>528313402>When they ask "where do you see yourself in 5 years" you don't say "head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz II" do you?
>>528320299That will be another person's problem. Furthermore, if most people aren't hiring regardless of whether you play their little theatre or not, less of a reason to do so.
>>528319868Based trying to do the same rn i want nothing to do with this faggotry
>>528319036It does.I didn't specifically pick this company and this job. I applied to dozens, hunderds maybe.It's a pointless question with equally pointless answers.Also, you're pathetic as fuck. 21 posts and counting, all garbage corpo defense.No, you dont' just "tell the truth", you lie, but don't call it a lie. Picking which truths to tell and how to phrase them so they are TECHNICALLY the truth, but the meaning is twisted is still a lie.
>>528320397Why would an electrician be interviewing with an HR department, and why would his wage be the priority item if he was unable to work for himself? Maybe do a week or two at McDonalds before posting
>>528320469>semantics>skills aren't qualifications esp if you have to learn themGod you're boring as well as stupidJust stay on welfare deadbeat
>>528320459Associating being employable with fake social bullshit/jumping through hoops for some HR Karen is faggotbrained
>>528319496>who they are, what they want, why they're there.You dumb fucking whore, your job is not to create a "who I want in my clique" list. JFC ure awful.
>>528320506It will be :)And now we know why Spain is doing so wellYou think The Controllers are replacing you because you're so rebellious lol
>>528320451>because they assumed shit about my workThen thats on you and your CV, also never let anyone railroad you in an interview, they have their own agendas I have been involved in situations that people have tried to sabotage others by employing completely unsuitable people for revenge/office politics
YOU SHOULD WORK FOR FREEYOU DON'T DESERVE MONEY FOR YOUR BULLSHIT (((LABOR)))
>>528320612It's an incredibly basic question that you've turned into an insurmountable hurdle lol, God, Ronny - you're so principled!
>>528313306Interviews are bout who can tell the most believable lie. Its why Jeets thrive there.By the end of the day the company doesnt care wether you lied about everything. All that matters are results.
>>528313402>you don't say "head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz II" do you?I'm not that ambitious so I tell them I'll be one of the lifeguards.
>>528313180Do you want someone working for you who will do it only for money and lacks the intelligence to realize this is a bad response? You already know the person won't care enough to do more than the minimum, and is stupid on top.
>>528314000Kys jew
>>528313402>Head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz IIUsing this for my next interview
>>528320498Why not.Shouldn't you give the best answer?
>>528320696They do because they have compliance requirements. You guys belong in Syria
>>528320151I almost envy you.I tried, I really did, I actually applied to several municipal jobs, but I wasn’t good enough for themI’ve worked all kinds of hard jobs. Fullført førstegangstjeneste, fiske, fabrikk, lager, alt mulig
>>528319653>>528319496this poster sounds like a roastie, but since a roastie cant articulate like this anon, he must be a tranny supporter fag.listen, rarely people have passion for their job, usually these are the scenarios:>they get comfortable in their job, and decide to stay there long term>are miserable but logistics and circumstances prevent them from changing their joband there are a lot of factors to consider, do you enjoy the job? are you good at it?the latter is the only thing that should actually matter.this reminds me of how gay the school system is, and how teachers would mark down your grades if they didnt like you, especially in subjective subjects.only finals and SATs were fine because there wasnt some retarded man hating roastie grading you by how many icks you give her.when i hire a contractor i dont ask him "do you enjoy bricklaying/plumbing/evac/etc?"i just check if he has good reviews, if someone can vouch for him, or i can see his paat work.AI is useless but i really wish all HR "people" would get replaced by AI, because they are useless waste of oxygen who think gossiping like it's highschool constitutes a job.having a vagina is a free card to have a useless-eater adult-daycare job.fuck kikes, send all women back home.
>>528315386Why? All these systens you got in place such as voting and corprorations and hierarchies/nepotism and whatever, they all exist in an attempt to one up chad and try to eliminate his genes in favor of yours in your slimmy manner its. Roasties flipping the script on you with female voting rights, hiring/gatekeeping based on pussy tingles/ick etc is just her flipping the entire slimmy plot you conducted against chad and nothing less than what you deserve.
>>528320673I don't think that was revenge. Looked like people who were too far up their asses. I'm just pointing out that HR isnt always bad. My current job HR just sent my CV to the person in charge of a unit and he got an interview up and running and hired me in a week.Some people are good at this some aren't, HR is good when they have a systematic approach.
>>528320635>I'm a GAIAfag :) btw>pls jews make anon disappear for laughing at my jobLmao, 23 posts by this ID behaviour
>>528320694Nice reverse accusation office psycho fagbrainShe's the ones over interpreting a simple honest response. So very mature. So poised, Lucy ! YOU GO GIRL
>>528320583>skillsEvery job you mentioned has a set career path that doesnt depend on skills, it depends on qualificationYou are not going to be a site forman if you dont have a NEEBOSH or equivalent, doesnt matter how many skills you have, its just another part of HR bullshit that gets in the way of proper hiring, the whole point of the threadHR is dying and rightly so, it has morphed into policy and strategy and is terrible for business because it focuses on personal attitudes/biases rather than true assessment of candidates
>>528319254As I said in a previous post, these positions attract power tripping faggots like a magnet. However they're the petty, irl harmless power tripping faggots, otherwise they'd be the military/police.He's able to bullshit you around the entire thread trying to reason why his clearly power tripping retard games are actually good for The Company(tm). It's pathetic also how much of his(her at this point perhaps?) personal identity is tied to his career proficiency, you can spot a deserted inner life from a mile away this way.
>>528320789Yeah, they're usually too focused on "having the right education/certification/etc" even if the jobs are easy as shit. I got lucky and had a friend recommend me directly. Now we just drink coffee and shitpost most of the day.
>>528320921>he still thinks that this about the truthYou're telling them you're a loser, dude. Like now.
>>528320751I like my productive workers pragmatic and honest. Its how you create working things. Social skills are required for many jobs, but not for all of them. >Only do it for the moneyI wanna see you showing up for an entire month without getting paid, entitled motherfucker.
>>528318098>Your biggest idea is what to eat for dinnerSwing and a miss, ALL people work for money, not to suck the corp cock like you, you cum guzzling faggot.
>>528313402That's exactly what I said, and they put me in charge of the wooden door production facility. It's horrible. They want me to make six million in five years, but it takes hours just to make one..
>>528314850no wonder your shithole island is lorded over by jews pakis and niggers
>>528320955Not reading any more of your garbage, you outed yourself as another unproductive misanthrope. Your dedication to stupidity is immutable and you seem like you'd be a cunt to work with.>It's Doris's birthday, do you want some cake>BACK VILE SLUT I play ye not these silky social games!
>>528321042Or they work to make the world better, solve problems, leave a mark. You talk like a Red Sea Pedestrian
>>528313893>>528313402Fuck that, I can't wait for AI to take their jobs, can't happen fast enough.
>>528320860HR will be replaced by AI for the main, the run off the mill HR requests will be filtered through automation, role creation etc will be done by dep heads again and put through an AI check system. Strategy/Hiring policy will become uniform over time as it is obvious what works across sectors and most importantly it will reintroduce a less biased/opinionated route to employment
>>528318098Best goy awardAnd before you categorise me, I work for the ATC, the serbian branch of Eurocontrol. You, and all the other """people""" who make their work their life and tie their inner world to how well they're doing tasks and making(someone else's) money, simply lack sentience. I had to bullshit dozens of retards like you to get hired here, it wasn't hard, it just took a while to go through literally 10 hiring steps, you just take yourself way too seriously.
>>528321112I am an absolute cunt to work with, I am paid to be
>>528321223>what is riskI don't care, you validated what we have been saying
>>528321241What do you do?
>>528320860Why are there so many gay-ass finns here lately?They used to be the coolest chuds on /pol/
>>528321276Nigger you make less money than I do in fucking Serbia, get off your high horse, you're not special and you sure as fuck have no idea how the world works.
>>528314130This, desu.Sick of feminine gaslighting and mind games. This is why civilization is falling apart. The French courts prior to revolution was full of this.
>>528321325I probably do, but you just said "I played the game and got the job." Obviously you're a trier, even with the Serbian handicap
>>528321302Business malpractice and union work
>>52832111>Dole>another unproductive misanthropeBit rich coming from Chronic Back Pain Man"Ow ow, me back me back, I haven't been able to work for seven years because I fucked my back up doing something stupid. But now the dole office wants me to stop being a lazy cunt and retrain, sad face"
>>528321405HahahAh that's greatSo you're something of an intermediary and standover man or you work in compliance?
>>528321452Don't take a cent of government money, live off my investments. The spinal injury was caused by overuse in a very technical field. I am now applying my experience to helping others. Bit better than being a minder lol
>>528321395The point is I can see how the game being played is bad for business/the systems at large, but you're so invested in your faggy power tripping you'll go to great lengths to justify it.Just take a look at what you jsut said you retarded nigger. I got into fuckingATC because I could play office games better than otehrs, not because of organisational skills/spatial awareness/short term memory/and a bunch of other skills we also get tested on. All that, which is, for a highly stressful and skilled position very, VERY necessary, plays second fiddle to entering a room, scanning ~10 or so retards like you who like to huff your own farts, then complementing your farts for the next 10-30 minutes. It is unequivocally a bad practice for a skilled position and an IRRELEVANT one for an unskilled position.But you knew all of this, the deepest part of you just gets hard when you get a whiff of control.As I said already>Pathetic power corrupts patheticallyThank you for being an example.
>>528321472A lot of health and safety but get involved in cases due to background, also consult, used to be H&S but thats moved into cost analysis which is a bit weird but came from looking at cost implications rising from bad work practice/employee retention and settlement costs
>>528321580>it's bad for business to filter the people in this threadClearly not
>>528321026>if you dont bend the knee to a jewish owned, roastie/fag led company, you are a le loooseryou are a faggot and nothing you will do to impress others will ever pass the sniff test.when you think you are "networking" when you lie as you breath, you push away all high-val people away because they can immediately tell you are a retarded spiritual kike fag/roastie.your only friends are losers such as yourself.
>>528321630We probably could have used such a person. Shame you're about as charming as a barium enema
>>528321691Don't need to when you work in a skilled profession.
>>528321665>>528321630>>528321580three people shitting up the thread
>>528321026No shit it's about social etiquette you office queer, but from the perspective of common folk this IS bourgeois values and theres nothing "nafri coded" about pinpointing that. And those unspoken rules get increasingly annoying as this world do get less and less respectable by the day whether you like it or not but i dont even expect you to understand you subhuman trash
>>528321665>still respondsLet me repeat this one since you seem to want to take a "win" and have the last word>Pathetic power corrupts pathetically
>>528313402I'm stealing that
>>528321706lolwe are where we areI wouldnt have a job if I conducted myself like this IRL
>>528313180Is there any way for a company to avoid hiring women and browns with no credentials? Seriously how can we change this
>>528321580lol he is a pideras, no use in talking to this godless abomination.no strong man will ever think or behave like that subhuman.women back to the house, fags sent to gulags along with kikes, niggers, arabs and indians. UTOPIAi suspect fags love to punish straight men because they are assblasted by the based Christian morals telling them they are degens and hell bound.faggots, acting like a bitch is what made you a fag in the first place, wont save you from hell.
>>528314850>By responding bluntly you are directly confronting the HR stacy with the fact that the role she is playing is unnecessary and accomplishes nothing. She's been robbed of the opportunity to indulge in her clique-building instinctsWell yeahAs for the rest, someone's got to do it. Someone's got to stop being a slavering, obsequious coward.>>528315120Lol, I wish someone would really do that.>>528315498>>528315528And that is why corporations are stuffed with senior managers engaged with stock buybacks and fudging balance sheets instead of the core business.They play the game all right, quietly enriching themselves, quietly stealing or padding their expenses, bet most of those kept their jobs through mass layoffs because they've mastered the game.>>528315528Some companies that do mass layoffs like that, keeping the game players and yes men, then having to hire back some low level peon for millions a few months later because that was the person who kept the entire operations going only now they have a massive grudge.I'll bet you did that at some point.
>>528313180Tradcons will never admit that women are the problem and the jews you get are just a side effect of trusting women.
>>528321989The entire corporate structure favors women and its built into our (((legal system))). From the UN down, it comes from Admiralty Law of the (((seafaring merchants))).
>>528322070No wonder both of you guys are from eastern EuropeIn west Europe/anglosphere nearly all men are a bunch of pussy weasels going along with those pseudo values, this inverted bourgeois kikery makes my skin crawl
>>528321731do YOU work a skilled profession? or are you a literal retard working HR and trying to lord over people to satisfy your inferiority complex?being catty is not a skill
>>528322289i wish that was the case, i actually come from the west but married a Georgian lass.the men here are better than in the west, but many are still the same lemmings who will sell their kwn mothers for money.immoral people are everywhere, the east has the advantage of being more traditional + Orthodox Christianity (both of these go hand in hand)
>>528321706You think anons IRL are their temporary /pol/ shitposting persona of the week?
>>528316761The most competent people I've dealt with in my life sometimes have minimal social skills. They won't kiss your ass but they'll get the job done.Almost no women understand that and almost no hr people understand that. They just want a middle school clique while senior managers run their side hustle scams like getting kickbacks from suppliers, or conference maxxing or mining bitcoins on company servers and endless other bs I've witnessed. But yeah they all knew how to say the right words to the right people when they needed to.
That's a terrible answer in an interview. It's a test to see if you can smile through corporate bs
>>528322730I dunno, man. I have given a ton of interviews, and asked this question a lot. It's the most huamn response in the world to say:"hah, yeah, money's good. But why do THIS for money, rather than something else?"These HR bugpeople have no souls, so they can't figure out a simple, human response.
>>528316477A corpo would wither like a fainting damsel if they had to work a very busy McDonald’s.
>>528317142I grew convinced about twenty years ago that a lot of these bs questions are to screen out people who already weren't going to be selected anyway.I got lobbed with insane questions at a BBC interview panel for a job I was already doing (but was still on contract). A then work mate later told me I lost out to a nepo hire who ironically didn't fit in nearly as well.
>>528313402>head of zyklon logistics for Auschwitz IIPut my pet in the screencap.
>>528322632I know I am
>>528323032Kek.I was just told at my workplace that I'm very easy-going and pleasant to work with regardless of who I'm in the team with, like a universal piece that fits well with all other pieces, even very jaded ones. While on /pol/ sometimes I go out of my way to be as inflammatory as possible, rage baiting constantly.
>>528317786This.How long has "competency crisis" and "young people don't wanna work" been a meme now?
>>528320299Everyone they hire will spend all day gossiping rather than doing their job and their competition will scoop up the talent.
>>528320549>splitting hairsDo you want your engineers to be efficient and cost effective or do you want them to spend all day social maneuvering. Choose.
>>528322317I've been in industry for 30 years and he tried to say I was unemployed.I am tired of faggots like him.Time for a taste of his own medicine; I just called his employer and told him he is posting nigger on 4chan.
>>528318823Almost every culture apart from ours and other Germanics is a face culture, anon.
