/pol/ can't refute this
>>528511198sounds pretty cucked if you ask me
>>528511198Art is the eye of the beholder
redditjaks are their own phenomenon isolate of irony poisoned retards who just opportunistically chameleon into whatever ideology they think they can most annoy people by affecting at any given moment
>>528511198tldr
nah, leftists are the insincere onesright wingers are strongly sincere, many of us, we're just not very artistic. art is for lefties, mostly. a few counter-examples does not refute the rule
>>528512296Art has the "Hitler Problem" where right wingers WANT to become artists, but are barred via gatekeepers on the left from becoming trained artists. Hollywood is a big version of this. Left wingers are HIGHLY intolerant of anyone not subscribing to their bubble of approved thought, so they will reject, bully, and socially delete you from their controlled organizations. You can see this because Church movies and other right wing content has to be COMPLETELY separate from Hollywood. And as such it has no "system access" to do business, from everything at the bottom level for guild access to the top level rating and distribution system. All controlled by robed mystery lefties not allowing right wingers to come in. That means right wing content has to build from the ground up, exactly like Indie devs do, and that is why their content is very much Indie styled. Keep in mind "centered" content makes money. Extreme left or right wing content will generally fail to make lots of money.
>>528512541Indeed.Leftists are extremely worried that right wing minds actually will make good art. It's why they spend so much time trying to gatekeep them out, whilst insisting that they are bad at it.
>>528513153>>528512541There's a fuckload of art tutorials online now.You can just google shit.You could learn all the techniques required and turn them around to mock your teacher for being a tranny.And you could release them online.
>>528511198Why would I refute this, it's 100% correct.That's what you get when your movement depends solely on nerds.
>>528513240The right actually has a pretty good hold of online culture.It's things that require institution funding such as film that is the problem.
>>528513240But they won't because art is incompatible with the modern right.The right used to be revolutionary, now it's petit-bourgeoise and philistine. That's also why the left will win a civil war if it ever comes to that.
>>528513282>The right actually has a pretty good hold of online culture.Not at all.You may count love for russia, hate for NATO and anti-semitism as rightwing, but it's actually leftwing and islamist. You just share 90% of the ideology with the people who want to kill you.
>>528511198how is this shit "art"? Everybody can do this and smear it on .picrel a mark rothko.fancy libtards pay millions for an original
>>528511198>YacubThese faggots are judging our creation myths now? Is nothing sacred?
>>528513336Retard.Go to any combat sports gym or shooting club.All right ring.Right wingers understand actual violence is a switch. Left wingers think it’s a dial, that they can slowly turn up, because they have no experience with it. If an altercation becomes physical, your really have to make your opponent a non threat. Meaning knock out or kill them, then deal with the court problem.
>>528513378Forget modern art. Traditional art would be considered degenerate by the modern rightwing.
>>528511198fascists dabbled in dada in the 20sso w/e bruv
>>528513369Just by reading your post I know you’re a fucked up jew.
>>528513440Yeah we saw that during BLM and the corona era. You didn't do shit back then and you won't do shit in the future.Look at the guy who got killed by French antifa a few days ago. He could have defended himself but he didn't.
>>528513369Gather up your prolapsed asshole and tie it off before more noise escapes, you faggot. We've been defining internet counter culture since our inception. 4chan and SA filled the entire internet with content when there was none.
>>528511198I don't want to make art. I want to experience it. It's the same thing I say to fags trying to get me to make a video game. Nigger, I play them. I want to playthem. I don't want to make them. I can't be defeated by game I create. That's no fun.
>>528513478You're jewish yourself nigger. Post your surname.
So memes are art now? I mean some memes are art, what is art and all that nonsense. But I'd hardly say chud memes are the modern incarnation of triumph of the will. Eddington would be a modern piece of "right leaning" art thats kino. Bet you missed that one at the box office last year.
>>528513495>SA>rightwing
4chan is why meme is even a known word in the current year
>>528513446Ok this person is just trolling.
>>528513508>I MUST CONSOOM
>>528513520The last explicitely rightwing piece of art was probably Taken/96 Hours.
>>528513529We all left for 4chan back in aught-four. Its why 4chan took the content crown from SA.
>>528511198Fascists can occasionally make good art, but it’s rare for their tastes to align with what’s good. People will say hitler was a good artist, but if you look at his paintings, the compositions are dull and the perspective was often off. If people were educated, they’d say they liked the art of the futurists, but most fascists don’t know who the futurists are.
>>528513536>David: Oh no it's a jew>Cabanel: Oh no naked girls>Leni Riefenstahl: Oh no totally gay
>>528511198OP is wrong.Alt right can make minimalist modern art.
>>528513574Neither SA nor 4chan were ever rightwing.Disagree? So whose side are you on, literal Nazis who defend themselves against bolshevik invasion (Ukraine) or the literal USSR (russia)?Yeah, thought so.
>>528513576>the compositions are dull and the perspective was often offYet for some reason that is never a problem with leftist art.Anyway the Nazis had more artists than just Hitler.
>>528513492Is that your complaint? That the right is not extreme enough?I’m fucking training in multiple fields for a violent occasion. The left can do these ambush tactics where they kill people because they know the institutions are on their side. If you’re a right wing white male, you’ll know the system is out to get you, you must act smart. You can behave like them. Walk past any Jew or leftist in the street. You could easily kill them. Pencil armed retards. They evolved to be pencil pushers while whites evolved for organized war. It’s not a problem.So what are you doing to become a threat to leftists if you’re so extreme? Unless of course you’re a faggot Jew pretending to be right wing. Or a fucking autistic loser that is all talk, hence why a thread about art got you all riled up.Read fucking bertolt Brecht, that’s Jew art. It’s astroturfed to hell and it’s fucking on the nose and shit. They’re retarded shit obsessed sub humans.
"ai slop" NPC term>>528513530Richard Dawkins published the term in his book, I forget which one and did not read it but I am aware he coined the term.It feels so strange to be using a computer after three years of being on a phone which was giving me God awful problems. The website is completely different on the computer to the phone, the catalogue is far different.Upon inquiry I found out why. The site has mirrored versions where you are put in a "time out" and you are assigned a whole class of AI which has been marked within your digital footprint to punish you or echo your being
>>528513574what is SA?
He forgot Futurefash or later called in a lame watered down version "fash esthetics".The entire Alt-Kike was Communists run by Dugin and Epstein-Kushner tied (Q-intel) maga. The online actual 'right" or whatever is and was illegal and so they make graffiti style hit and run art online. Imagine if all your art schools were being attacked by the government and all your art houses were shut down for wrong speak, that's what the Left would be doing afterwards, graffiti style messaging.
>>528513556Watch eddington. Honestly the point is moot, because right wing artists just keep their mouth shut or don't get work. Look at Craig Zahler. Made kino movies without explicitly saying anything political. Then they paint him as being ultra right and now he just writes books. Admittedly good books.
>>528513665by the time you're even willing to fight you have already lost. your violent fantasies won't work.
>>528513668Salvador Dali is Fast Aesthetics because it's sublimely brilliant, it does not require overt fascist overtones. Though your image is thought provoking, the tesseract is beautiful, the suffering of war, the ascent of man from the Bronze Age, the Stone Age
>>528513610There's been a recent run in Australia of people putting up pictures of immigrants who commited crimes (eg the recent shooting) just with "Australian" in bold text underneath. Lefties seethed over it, but it literally said nothing other than what they believe.
>>528511198there's been like... a handful of fascist artists/intellectuals. maybe two
>>528513687>Richard Dawkins published the term in his book, I forget which one and did not read it but I am aware he coined the term.No he didn't NPC. Wikipedia is for retards.This guy was talking about memes in his lectures and died before Dawkins Selfish Gene book came out. Dawkins is an actual professed cannibal who is friends with the Rothschilds and just points out the obvious because he has a good education and is boosted by (((them))).
>>528513778The actual angle (which is working) is political. My countries extreme right party has just gotten more votes and support than our moderate right party. We are actually going to win the political angle despite the obstacles.The violence angle must be prepared forIn the event of political economic collapse in which case leftist will probably make a pathetic attempt to mobilize. Don’t forget much of their support comes half heartedly from women, who, if you actually were to fuck any. Would know they don’t hold these beliefs with much conviction.
>>528513763meant >>528513763your earlier post was edited (deleted)The Right Wing should consist of Gentlemen of a sophisticated calibre. Not vulgar degenerates
>>528511198I think the conception of people that are right wing or conservative or whatever the opposite of the left is, are actually better artists than people perceive. people put art into a box calling it paintings. but in reality art is a lot more than that. a lot of things that are desinged in the world are first drafted in blue prints. so someone draws an object then makes it. this could be architecture, designing automobiles, firearms, whatever. to put art into a box like you have to have mental disorders, believe in faggotry, and shoot paint up your ass to shit it out on a canvas, and for that reason leftist artists are better, i think it kind of ignorant to what you take for granted as art. people make entire careers off of just designing things, way more money than just scribbling gay furry anime creatures all day for your degenerate cult of weird people. for the most part anything that is based as inventions. was Da Vinci a artist by trade? no but a lot of his designs are based as fuck, and i think that based as fuck designs are far superior to you furry fag shit.
>the Right can't make ar-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK>the Right are low IQ and libs are waaaaay smarte-ACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK>only leftists have the creativity gen-ACKACKACKACKACCKKKKKKAKCKACKAKCAKCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>528513619I was there you stupid faggot. We were right leaning center at the best of times. There were also no fucking germans or other eurofags then.
>>528511198I don't think the average /pol/tard claims to be an artistic genius, just because they themselves aren't very artistically inclined doesn't mean they can't understand the importance of art
>>528512541>You can see this because Church movies and other right wing content has to be COMPLETELY separate from HollywoodYeah this is one of these things. The american church movies as you've called it are relatively tame all things considered, but there's very little crossover between them and Hollywood as far as personnel goes which also leads to an obvious filter that fucks that industry over. If you want to really succeed as an movie actor you aim for Hollywood. If you go for the christian movie industry you're probably valuing religion more than your career, in the end person who's ambition driven to be a great actor will likely be of higher quality than this christian movie actor.It's also something I think blackpilled said back in the days. Even if he had billions of dollars to start his own based movie industry he'd have a hard time finding people for it. Christian movies are incredibly tame as I've noted previously, so maybe there's still a bridge between them and hollywood. If you're really, really good you may cross the line(to probably never return) and jump into hollywood. If you however make a movie that portrays let's say white supremacists in the positive light or a sort of conspiracy thriller about orchestrating the civil rights act(we know more or less how that worked these days btw) let alone something that is antisemitic from the right(no muh poor poolestinians but jews are rats kind) everyone involved will be blacklisted forever. Even the fucking electrician who did installations on the stages
>>528513917Good post.
>>528513884Alan Watts the Esalen Protege. Died an alcoholic, God bless his troubled soul. I did not use wikipedia, I recalled from my internal encyclopaedia. Wikipedia means FastChild did you know that? Anyway, I haven't read Dawkins but I know he coined the term Meme in the modern era.It is derived from Mnenomsyne a river where one would drink in the after life to preserve memory rather than drink from the river of Lethe where one would forget their past lives to be reborn Tabla Rasa.I am aware Dawkins is friends with Miriam Rothschild, I first posted the image of them in a church together with a goat stained glass or art piece on the window behind them.I am NOT an atheist.
>>528513886>shouldVulgarity is the puns of our time. You can't expect people raised on it to all become fancy lads as a political statement because that just breeds posers and wannabes like the trad-life types who eventually fall victim to reality and "lose the name of action"... as in it fizzles out.Millenials never understood that posers = cultural death and art becoming a parody of itself.
Mishima also fucked men
could uber chaste men that sit around and worship god all day and pratice good things for good karmic sakes make somthing elaborate and beatiful in art? or does it just HAVE to be a faggot?
>>528513711Something Awful. The forum that produced most of the memes before 4chan did. Canihazcheezburger was arguably the first public meme mill, and it was all just recycled early SA and 4chan Caturday content. We literally made everything funny and interesting on the internet back when it was all just text and faggots with blogs.
>>528514021Then they aren't right wing, they are liberals.The right wing necessitates Discipline. You can get away with laxity where genius is high such as Michelangelo's refusal to wash or change his clothes but for most there is an expectation of etiquette, grooming and self-discipline.Without this, you are just a hippy liberal promulgating the post irony state - the antithesis to Right Wing Ideology.The whole basis of Evola as I understand it and may well read his books to find out more isThe Aristocratic Noble SoulPeddling Post-Ironic memes as art puts you in league with the Modern Art Establishment. Not the Noble Right.
>>528511198this is a troon btw
>>528514012>Alan Watts the Esalen Protege. Died an alcoholic, God bless his troubled soul.If you learn crazy things here you suppose to look into it, not just accept it. The Esalen institute began in 1962. Allan Watts was teaching on the BBC and had a radio show since 1952. He was invited to speak there because he lived in the area and was invited to speak everywhere as a minor d-list celebrity. He didn't die of alcohol, some guru said that because he pissed off the gurus by telling people how the scam worked.I'm not some fan boy, I just looked it up when I was told that here. >Wikipedia means FastChildHow so? >It is derived from Mnenomsyne a river where one would drink in the after life to preserve memory rather than drink from the river of Lethe where one would forget their past lives to be reborn Tabla Rasa.That's interesting. Thanks
>>528513885it doesn't matter you are outnumbered and in the process of being replaced. the far right has no allies, they are radioactive to normies and they have no plan. by the time you realize this it will be too late and the trap sprung. we lost.
>>528514152alright thanks for the infomation
>>528514192Alan Watts introduced the Double Bind to a generation of bright seekers - he taught to do nothing - which is well and good for Monks in Cloisters, who in fact do do a lot - tending their gardens and scholastic pursuits.Watts was a Drop Out type - this is the mode he advocated.That isn't to say drugs aren't good for society - they certainly are.The most brilliant architects of the past two hundred years were avid consumers of Opium. I am not encouraging the consumption of drugs but there is a bona fide link between Higher Realms of Geometric Understanding of Space Time which accompanies them.Esalen was actually deeply connected to MKultra...Anyhoo - Wiki meaning Fast in Hawaiian and Pedia the Greek for Child. A reference to a prodigal youth.
>>528514230lol get out more.All i find is that people have what is getting pretty close to pol beliefs, but must keep their heads down for business reasons. The people that believe in leftism are npcs. They believe whatever there think will secure them social capital and safety. As soon as it becomes more socially profitable to be right wing, they’ll flip. As they always have. Nazis only had 14% support when they took power. Then it was like 95% not long after. And wileimar was much more woke than we are now. All extremist cookbooks have a name for npcs. Right wingers called them lemmings.You’re trying to demotivate me, but it just lets me know you’re scared.
>>528514230>>528513885>the far right has no allies, they are radioactive to normies and they have no plan.The plan is atomized attack vectors of truth telling. Once people know the truth, nature takes its course. And that's why /pol/ "will do nothing!" because marching and protesting is for useful idiots and false-flag media psy-ops.>you're out numbered by NPCs so it doesnt matter we lost!That's always the case in all of human history, stupid.
>>528512541I've essentially come to a similar conclusion.
>>528514356I wish that was true. >>528514368>the plan is atomized truth vectors we're doomed. >we're always outnumbered stupid tell that to the guy who wants to use the political option. even the violence option looks grim from a numbers perspective. unless you're suggesting truth vectors can turn a nigger white and give your gun faggot seeking bullets.
>>528514524Probably because you’re American and you have a lot of dysgenic retards there.
>>528514175>Without this, you are just a hippy liberal promulgating the post irony state - the antithesis to Right Wing Ideology.>The whole basis of Evola as I understand it and may well read his books to find out more is>The Aristocratic Noble Soul1. Liberal isn't Communism. They literally invented Nationalism and constitutional governments.2. Hippies are CIA created dupes who were originally KGB Commies dupes.3. Evola was a degenerate (((Gnostic))) who wrote a book called "A TRAD LIFE FAG CONFRONTS FASCISM" and wanted to turn everyone into fucking navel gazers. His work of Buddhism (since we talked of Watts) for example is a fucking joke and he had no intellectual depth to understand basic concepts. He was also an early BBC poster. He is pushed here by Duginists for these reasons alone.4. Aristocratic is not a fucking millennial fashion. It's is the hierarchy of the 'Aristos' (= Aryan, or in english noble, as in nobility). The aristocracy are the children of those who created their country. Example: nation comes from nati or birth, as patriot comes from patri father. You are born of the mother land and must protect it as the forefathers... 5. Take what you can get. Post irony is post-post modernism. It will change with AI tools and human creativity soon enough.
>>528513282if you are still crowing about 'antisemitism' by this juncture you are very much mindraped and can look forward to being raped by kikes forever and ever
>>528514524Id take ten right wingers over a hundred limp wristed lefties, and get a hell of a lot more done.
First things firstThere should be an alternative discussion websiteThis one is designed to erode the soul.You see the pornography in the ads? I have routed it's source. It is hostile towards the user base.The CIA were in charge here from a number of years and the calibre of posters were high. Then the operation moved to Space Forceand the calibre of posting declined significantly through throttling the thinkers - much like in Soviet Russia.The Truth isThe entire political landscape changes when you get YOURSELF IN ORDERNothing else matters until you are the LIVING EXAMPLE of the Philosophy you advocate.The Scholastic Might of a JesuitThe Beauty of Form of Alexander's SoldierThe Spiritual Being of a Tibetan Monkare good aims to begin withWhere are You falling short of these?
>>528514659meant for >>528513369 but fuuuuuck me i am catastrophically retarded
>>528511198What is fascist art? Is it art made by fascists or is it art in a "fascist style"? If it's former, the reason is obvious. Fascists are generally excluded from academia, denied access to funding, etc. The latter doesn't make sense at all. Classical art is only fascist according to a bunch of insane leftists, and heroic realism is/was widely used by tankies
>>528512541nobody is stopping you from picking up a paintbrush
>>528514682have fun with that.
>>528514524>>528514603>violence>politics>protestMillennials are so shilled to death you actually let the people you hate define reality for you. You don't have to do anything. Just let the truth be known and humans adjust to it. All this performance and "our movement" was controlled from the start. That's why /pol/ hates e-celebs and politicians and warned you against them. Trump was memed to create chaos in the controlled opposition party of NeoCons and it worked from a truth exposure perspective. Normies have come a long way since 911 and Boomer republicanism vs Boomer Democrats.
>>528514653>"A TRAD LIFE FAG CONFRONTS FASCISM"found it
>>528514653Post Irony is a Tarnish of the Soul.No one suggested Aristocratic is a millennial fashion... Peculiar take.It is a state of a cultivated soul.A man is not automatically Noble by origin of his blood alone for the moral architecture of the soul may become deformed for ANY man.I believe in Germany it was referred to as The Fatherland. Russia has always referred to itself as The Motherland.Post-Irony is deliberate degeneration of the youth.The image you included "Future Fast" is almost a caricature of the nature of Fascism.I prefer to thing of the Ubermensch asAlexander the Great - the very heart of the CIA He was not masculinity personified by an almost Automaton representation. He had a full depth of soul - was known to weep. Not hyper masculinity to the exclusion of spiritual depth.
>>528514870they dont get that dude they think they can fight an army of niggers with 10 dudes and some facts and logic. want to actually save your country? have white children.
>>528514906Have you read this book?Which book of his do you recommend?
>>528514801I guess ill just have fun watching western society implode instead? Such great choices.
>>528514711>Nothing else matters until you are the LIVING EXAMPLE of the Philosophy you advocate.>The Scholastic Might of a JesuitThey were anti-intellectual propagandists for the vatican>The Beauty of Form of Alexander's SoldierThey road horses and fought all day>The Spiritual Being of a Tibetan Monkpedo gnostics infected by Manichean teachings when Islam took over India.You need to take more time on your education before you form big opinions. >>528514906
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>>528515066You can only change yourself.All of reality changes with your ascent into the man you wish to be.
>>528515093>anti-intellectual propagandists for the vatican?Opinion discarded You are a communist subversive
>>528514933>No one suggested Aristocratic is a millennial fashion...No millennials are turning it into a fashion statement as you are. You can't fake it. You are or you are not.>A man is not automatically Noble by origin of his blood aloneThat's what that word you're using is all about and NOTHING else. As far as the behavior of the nobility... well, they have class but they are not good people or someone to look up to. >Post-Irony is deliberate degeneration of the youth.The irony era was the Post-Modernist era because everything was inverted (opposite). Post-irony and often degenerate is empty because it's a purge of a false dialectic in a world where morals are anti-nature and reality.>The image you included "Future Fast" is almost a caricature of the nature of Fascism.Correct... Fascist are was called "futurism". >Alexander the Great was not masculinity personified by an almost Automaton representation. He had a full depth of soul - was known to weep. Not hyper masculinity to the exclusion of spiritual depth.Okay... I guess it's good to have heroes. He sure did a lot of murder and slung a lot of cock around with all those kids he had that became kings and the nobility of far off lands (despite what that commie Jew movie portray him as).Nature takes its course despite the motivations of man kind's ethereal thoughts; and all things are expressed in nature.>nb4 fallacy invented in the 1980s California University of Santa CruzAppealing to nature is appealing to the definition of nature which is 'origins", appealing to origins is not a fallacy.
>>528515370You are a communist subversive.100% chance you are transgender on a linux device.An abomination of malformed spiritual architecture You fail to understand The Metal System of Plato in relation to the True Aristocracy in your assertions.Not that it matters, you are a Bronze.
>>528515175>anti-intellectual propagandists for the vatican?>Opinion discarded You are a communist subversiveI think a Catholic historian would tell you the same thing. They were invented during the height of the Renaissance as a counter-movement and were given a mission to teach during the spread of the first printing presses. They didn't do it out of charity but had the stated goal of a countering a time when Europeans got really into "pagan" Hellenist philosophy and art. and had the mission converting Protestants and Muslims to the Church.It's the definition of anti-intellectualism... although maybe I could say it in a nicer way.
>>528511198Wait was hitler a fascist? Because he hated this guy for saying art is whatever anyone wants it to be even a urinal turned upside down.
>>528511198Refute what? He is namecalling. I call this a W cause he was forced to admit fascism is based, and I will always believe he's a cuck.
>>528511198K
>>528515552Utter tripe from a communist subversive on a Linux Device.Revolting.
>>528515482>You fail to understand The Metal System of Plato in relation to the True Aristocracy in your assertions.Plato was a great play-writer, but he was also a guy who took drugs to hallucinate and called it the "real truth" that he 'couldn't tell' his audience, according to his own words. He created "noble lies". That alone should tell you everything about him.Your boy Alexander was taught by Aristotle who was basically the chad/virgin meme of opposing Platonic gay thought. Philosophy would be no different than navel gazing or basic psychology without Aristotle's hard facts and cataloging.The metal system is cool but its archetypal (platonic). You have to understand that archetypes are not reality, but map of reality, and that people will never get the "righting" or "movement" that they want. >you dress like a girl!Show your fucking flag now.
>>528515691>utter tripeEvola fags everyone... Go be a gnostic Duginist on plebbit, memeflag.
OP if everything you write has to be a fucking novel your not the smart one. It makes you a sperg incapable of basic communication.Work on that shit bud.
>>528515603this guy was a gunner in a stuka once.hitler didn't know him ofc
art is just expression and philosophy but with style
