Zelensky complains that Trump has pressured him "inappropriately" to accept Russia's deal, and that it is the 'ukrainian people' that won't allow him to cede land in exchange for peace. He then accused Russia of dragging out peace talks and left the peace negotiations after two hours, questioning if Trump, Vance and Rubio truly care about Ukraine. He then did a full 180º and demanded that a 'new summit' be organized, which somehow will be different (?) for a reason I'm sure makes sense to him.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-live-trump-zelensky-putin-peace-talks-b2922462.htmlWhat is Zelensky even doing? The 96 billion dollars from Europe are running out, Belgium betrayed them and scared the EU out of stealing Russia's money and giving to him, it is -13º in Kyiv right now and the entire country is blacked out and being pounded by russian missiles and drones. The frontlines are frozen, the russians are just watching the situation across the border and no longer making any big attacks.The entire situation looks hopeless, but he seems adamant to fight to the last dollar that he is able to steal from the West.
>>528755243A GAY COCAINE ADDICTED JEW THREW A FAGGY TANTRUM BECAUSE HE CAN'T KILL MORE GOYIM FOR MONEY
>>528755243Its all just performative.The goal is just sending Ukrainian males to die on Russian speartips.Jews on both sides conspiring to make this happen.Any OP mentioning that war without pointing out that fact is highly suspect.
>>528755243Zelensky is a jew... remember that.He only will be nice if you give him money.
>>528755243>What is Zelensky even doing? Protecting his country from becoming russian>The 96 billion dollars from Europe are running outSource: trust me bro>The entire situation looks hopelessYeah, for the russians that is
>>528755243All a prelude to WW3, this little game will go on for another 2 or 3 years with Zelensky refusing to give up land
>>528755359Based >>528755382Cringe
>>528755243Why doesn't Trump just kill him? Seriously. There doesn't seem to be any good reason to keep Zelensky alive. Lure him to a meeting out of his country, shoot down his plane, and co-ordinate on the ground in Ukraine to replace him with a more reasonable head of state. Done and done. It'd be so easy.
>>528755382right. the side that has been gaining ground for months is "hopeless", while the side with critical shortages of manpower and mass desertion is doing fine obviously. theyre doing so well they probably dont need any more help at all right?
>>528755557Alternative idea: Do that to the aggressor and not the one being invaded
>>528755243Why should Ukraine surrender what Russia can't take?No one ever answers this.
>>528755648Ukraine IS the aggressor.
>>528755557You would turn zelensky into a martyr and trump into even more of a demon than he already is. Great plan...if your goal is to destroy the united states
>>528755557>Why doesn't Trump just kill Because Zelensky is a jew and Trump is a shabbos goyim
>>528755243a portion of the population is going to lose their gravy train, not too complicated. this is the same problem in both countries. a multi polarisation
>>528755641Russia just lost a shit ton of ground and erased the past few months of supposed advances because it turns out that a lot of those supposed advances weren't even real.Russia said "X town was taken" without actually taking "X town" and only people like you were stupid enough to believe them.
>>528755641How much ground have they gained and how much manpower did they spend to do so?
>>528755243by the way faggot the negotiations are in switzerland, not in usa, you should pay closer attention if you're gonna be making threads
>>528755665Ukraine relies on US and European money and arms and America wants to divide up the assets now. Or at least they claim they do, if it doesn't happen it's going to be something much worse with Iran and Russia that results in Greater Israel.
>>528755557Zelensky's men popped at Trump twice.Trump wants to see Agent Z humiliated, not dead.
>>528755684> turn zelensky into a martyr
>>528755243>What is Zelensky even doing?Trying and failing to create new NIGisreal.
>>528755557There is no head of state in Ukraine who thinks becoming Putin's bitch is a good thing, the new leader would be even more hardcore "Kill all Russians"There is no leader in Ukraine who will agree to hand over their country to Russia so Trump can have celebration buttsex with his good friend Putin.
Have you tried placing a piano in the negotiation room?
>>528755382>tell me youre a ukranian in hiding without telling me award winnerSince ukraine is doing so well, why dont you go back?
>>528755736oh okay then, so ukraine should have a very strong negotiating position... oh whats that? they dont? hmmm.>>528755740>How much ground have they gainedenough to be winning the war, clearly. ukraines bigger material supporter (usa) is acting on that basis.>how much manpower did they spendidk, but they havent suffered mass desertions of entire units like ukraine has
>>528755557Look at all the euro shills your getting replies from lol
>>528755777The US has provided almost no money since Trump took office, the US is also providing almost little to no intel to Ukraine as well.
>>528755648>overthrow a neutral government in a CIA op you already admitted to>kill your own puppet president>"Are you sure this will increase our profits?:>"Profits?"
>>528755930I wish https://www.csis.org/analysis/trump-sends-weapons-ukraine-numbers
>>528755736You're lying and its hilarious.Russia gained over 500sqkm since the start of the year.Even if you believe the bullshit being pushed ukraine gained back 201sqkm.That doesnt sound close to what youre saying at all.Furthermore the last 9 ukranian "offensives" have ended up with ukraine completely being pushed back.
>>528755382congratulations for the most idiotic post this far. you must be ukrainian larping as a finn.
>>528755243>The entire situation looks hopeless, but he seems adamant to fight to the last dollar that he is able to steal from the West.The jews slipped up right at the beginning and called Ukraine "israel 2.0". The entire purpose of the war is to eliminate Ukrainian men so jews can have a second state, this one in Europe. jews were allowed and encouraged to escape. Ukrainian men were shot for trying to escape. jews will rape all the women and make a weird mischling civilization they declare to be jewish.
>>528755736Farms are easy to lose, but also easy to lose yet again, call me when pisskraine retakes Prokrovsk lmao
>>528755684>turn zelensky into a martyrtopkek>>528755740what a stupid way to look this war.
>>528755888They do have a strong negotiation position of "We're not giving you land you can't take" At this point even if Ukraine did have massive overwhelming advantages Russia would make the same demands by going "I HAVE NOOKS GIVE ME THE DUMBASS OR I WILL NOOK YOU!!!! The fact that Russia has gone from "Give me all of the four regions" to "Give me the DUMBASS REGION" is signs that Russia realizes that they can no longer take all four regions militarily.If the Russian army was winning on all fronts Russia wouldn't even bother with negotiations.
>>528755243no cards cause seething
>>528755359Pretty much this. Don't forget they want to make the Ukraine into a greater israel.
>>528755665Because they are losing far more than the clay with each day of shitting into cat toilet and cooking bricks.
>>528756186>They do have a strong negotiation positionokay anon :)
>>528756180Russia hasn't even taken Potroast
>>528755740According to your shill friend Ukraine gained nothing because the maps were corrected >>528755736, although incorrectly attributed to statements by the Russian military which were actually autist mappers that have trouble with reading and flip-flop. The ukraine faces its worst problem in that the people they have lost is insurmountable and the ukraine wil be lost to history- buried by russian soldiers armed with nothing but shovels.In fact, your shill buddy is seething his butt off right now about how the ukraine will turn everything around because their leader will be even more impotently angry, check this shit out: >>528755812.
>>528756257Turns out that's a lie too!
>>528756050Yes, but you're forgetting the over 6 million Russian soldiers who have been KIA since the start of the invasion.
My fag government is supporting Ukraine and it's making my life harder.I hope they all fucking die, I don't give a shit about ukraine.
>>528755243America's betrayal of Ukraine will be one of the darkest stains in our history.
>>528756186>They do have a strong negotiation position of "We're not giving you land you can't take"So why is Zelensky so concerned about what Trump thinks? It sounds like he doesn't need us at all. So what's the problem?
>>528756248>Russia is so invincible that they're begging Trump to demand Ukraine give them the DumbassAgain the fact that Russia has to beg the US by offering it 12 Trillion is a sign of Russian weakness.If the Russians are so strong and tough why are they trying to bribe the US?Because they can't get through the shitton of trenches, minefields, and defenses Ukraine set up with the forces they have.
>>528755736>Russia lost groundGo fuck yourself faggot shillIts 20 below zero everyone is dug in just trying to keep warm
>>528755243The "peace talks" are just to make the genocide of ukranians seem more palatable to the normie cattle>"Well he tried to make peace but russia wouldn't let them, there was no other choice"
>>528755243only a 12% annual volunteer rate now, so 88% of the people sent to the front lines now didn't believe in the war enough to volunteer for it. and no wonder, bodies are piling up for land they're not getting back. international community "helping" by sending them just enough to keep the meat grinder going but never enough to win. ukraine was basically a white ethnostate, zelensky is jewish, putin is wef, ukraine is being prepared for diversity through depopulation. said diversity will make it more comfy for jews to blend in. goy are just livestock to be manipulated, managed, and culled where necessary, it's in the torah.
>>528755243He's such a little faggot
>>528756303The men were lost to Russian shovels and the women to Russian, Polish and German asylum.
>>528755382I feel sorry for your Finns bros.
>>528756343It's still effectively a kill zone for both sides Anon
>>528756396>12 Trillionnot 12 gajillion? if youre going to make shit up, then go big!
>>528755812Russia doesnt want the country, tranny faggot shill.All they want is ukraine to stop attacking Donbas, which they have been doing for 12 years.Zelensky now saying he wants Crimea back proves it.
>>528756120> The entire purpose of the war is to eliminate Ukrainian men so jews can have a second stateRetarded. Jews just want to Epstein their way into fat reconstruction contracts.
>>528756529>Russia doesnt want the countryWhich is why they've spent the last 12 years annexing parts of it, right? Also why they attempted to roll into Kyiv and capture it -- because they don't want it. Do you put your pants on before your underwear?
>>528755359This. If this were real trump would have given Putin the green light to take him out or he probably would have him taken out personally
>>528756186ALL Russia ever asked for is 2015 borders be recognized, faggot shill.Simple
>>528755313BELENSKY MADBELENSKY GONNA HOLD HIS BREATH UNTIL HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS
>>528756617Putin has been trying to kill Zelensky for four years now.
>>528756391Because Ukraine still has to put on the appearance of pretending that the US is still on their side in the name of optics
>>528755243Manlet rage strikes again.
>>528756387Your mother betrayed the USA when she didnt swallow the load your nigger daddy blew in her cunt.
>>528755557Because Z Is protect by MI6
>>528755243Did he forgot to say thank you once again?
>>528755243its complete psychosis faggotry on the part of ukraine who thinks they can simply DEMAND Russia surrender despite the obvious real fact that ukraine has been utterly buckshattered by Russia never to recover
>>528755243monkey
>>528756689But that doesn't make any sense and sounds like /k/nigger head canon
>>528756610The Russians didnt move an inch from 2014 to 2022, faggot shill.It was ukraine launching offenses
>>528756849Bullshit lol. You're not even trying lol. "Little green men" were embedded with the totally-organic Donbabwe militiamen from the very start -- this is verifiable. Ever heard of a guy named Strelkov? The one who got jailed for telling the truth about how he was in charge of creating the entire conflict on behalf of Russia? Lmao
>>528756529More Niggers killed people in Chicago than Ziggers died in the Donbass in the entirety of 2021.Russia didn't invade to save Dumbas lives. The fact that they used Dumbass soldiers as cannon fodder and the current people living in the Dumbas reigion are all suffering from dysentery prove it.Russia never gave a fuck about the Dumbasses in the Donbass.Why I'm so happy that they were used as Cannon Fodder by Russia.
>>528756508Oh yeah right... totally lolWhy are ukranian shills so obvious?
>>528756717Because the longer the war lasts the richer the ruling class gets from skimming off gibs and the only price to pay are the lives of Ukrainians who are not jewish and therefore worth nothing to them.
>>528755851>>528756053>>528756181>>5287564984 posts, 0 arguments. Funny yet expected. I accept your concession
>>528756672Which is why the Kyiv Verkhovna Rada and the Presidential Palace have been targetted with 1000 missiles since the start of the escalatio-... OH WAIT WHAT, NO??!?
>>528757106It really is, Drones suck in winter when there's nowhere to hide.
>>528755359Yeah he wants to make any “loss” Trump’s fault and not his own / Biden’s for showing weakness in the first place. If he doesn’t want to cede land, start winning it back, simple as.
>>528755243>What is Zelensky even doing?What part of "till the last hohol" have you people not understood yet?
>>528756717Why shouldn't Ukraine demand Russian "surrender"? That choice is up to Russians anyways. Russian's could've taken a safer and more pragmatic route of slowly integrating parts of Donetsk and Luhansk, but Russians went full nigger and decided that attacking a 30 something million neighboring SOVEREIGN country was s smart choice. And they're barely capable of doing that, so Russians and international ziggers cope by claiming a slow, costly and painful war is actually the best way to conduct a war.
>>528755395since Russia is so based why won't you move there?
>>528755382Hi Mykola aka gorefinn. Don’t you have a trench to die in?
>>528757290Elites probably making a ton of $$$ off the resulting human trafficking due to the chaos there
>>528757015You are a lying piece of shitPost proof about StreklovIts funny you faggot shills always bring him up.What do Russian troops have to do with the fact all the separatists wanted was to live in peace free from the corrupt regime in Kiev. Yes, Poroshenko is on ukraines kill list for corruption so they were right all along.
>>528755888>idkThen perhaps you should stop talking about things you know nothing about>enough to be winningWinning what? Answer me this. If the war ended right now, and russia got to keep the territory they currently hold, would you say they've gained from this war more than they've lost?
>>528757365that too.
>>528757303When presented with facts, the russian refugee replies with seething. You make this too easy for me
>>528757023Of course you are happy people are dying, you tranny faggot sodomites love death.Doesnt change the fact the only reason Russia invaded was because ukraine started shelling Donbas again, 5 days before the invasion.
>>528757395>Post proof about StreklovHe admitted it. He was a career glownigger and he admitted it. That's your proof. >>528757395>What do Russian troops have to do with blah blah blahThey have to do with the claim you made here: >>528756849>The Russians didnt move an inch from 2014 to 2022If Russian soldiers were actually moving an inch or two, then it starts to seem like Russia has orchestrated this war for over a decade lol
>>528756355>6 millionsWhere have I seen that number before... hmm.
>>528757155*rrriiiiingggg* (it's TCC)"Mykola Mykolaevich, the festival season is over, you had your fun in the West, now get the fuck back to the recruitment centre (ukaz, non negotiable) and pack your bag for basic training!"
>>528755382I thought Finns were smart? this post is poland butthurt tier
>>528757406>If the war ended right now, and russia got to keep the territory they currently hold, would you say they've gained from this warMinerals
>>528755378So is Putin. So is Trump.
>>528756257Porkroast has been on Russian hands since december, cuckboi
>>528755648Why would Trump order his own death? Especially when he's not the US leader that started all this shit.
>>528757299too coldmore comfy with hot cup of tea, light rain outside and Ahmed raping kids outside
>>528755243This is eggzactly it. Jewish chutzpah know no bounds. He will keep skimming off the top until "his country" is literally destroyed, then he'll move to a new one. He's about as Ukrainian as a bantu. How does anyone not see the jewish tricks in this day and age.
>>528757542Yes Russia started gathering soldiers on the border of Ukraine in NOVEMBER because of shelling in February?
>>528755382I get it you hate Russians (and I get your history with SOVIETS (Jews)), but be aware you’re not being objective, and the us staged a color revolution all around you to see white men butcher each other.
>>528757406Don't bother mentioning cost-benefit to ziggers. Since human (especially Russian) life is worthless to them, there is no sacrifice too great for gained victories in the shape of scorched land and old retiree's they "liberated" from fascists still reminiscing about great Soviet times.>>528757739The last time I heard it, it was related to 6 million bombed Donetsk children.
>>528755243peace talk is a theater, both russia snd usa profits from an ongoing war and later an empty ukraine"to the last hohol" was never a joke
>>528757299If Ukranine is so based why don't you move there?It's so based that half it's people fucked off
>>528757395How does it feel to know your little Dumbasses have no water. MUH RUSSIAN LIBERATORS
>>528755382>Source: trust me bro"Ukranians day eleventh billion ruZZian orks died today">Wow, so true!
>>528755684>You would turn zelensky into a martyrThat doesn't work when you're a scumbag lol
>>528758169This is true, Russian lives mean nothing, even to other Russians that's why it's laughable to believe that Russia launched this war "To save lives"
>>528755243
>>528758169>Don't bother mentioning cost-benefit to ziggers.Hey diaspora hohol,My country invaded Iraq for oilAfghanistan for opium to big pharmaThreated to annex Greenland for mineralsWants Panama back in out bootheel to control tradeAnd Maduro cause he was not "our" drug dealer.
>>528757155FUGGGG :DDD::DD
>>528758174Bullshit. Russia gave every warning, almost begged to stop encroachment on their sphere, gave repeated concessions. Plus, the war (which started in 2014, not 2021) started with pro-Russia politicians being coup’d with the help of the cia in the name of faggotocracy.
>>528757462It's all Russians have, it's because they deep down know they are even dumber than Africa and that if they were all killed the world would be better off
>>528755313>>528756668kek
>>528755779>Zelensky's men popped at Trump twice.Not to mention the impeachment hoax.
>>528755665Because that's plain not true and Ukraine and it's backers lost the war. Also the nature of this war is not like WW2. Ukraine is absolutely destroyed at the hands of US and EU and there are only 2 things it can do, surrender or keep being destroyed. Any sensible human being would not have made Ukraine start this war let alone keep it going, the humane thing is to surrender but we are led by jewish vampires.
>>528758389Yes the CIA cookies which mind controlled the entirety of Ukraine to reject the wonderful leader and his Golden Palace
>>528757915>>528757406They got:>Crimea (warm water ports)>Massive reserve of coastal natural gas in the >Black Sea>Rare minerals>More population that frankly, was never loyal to Ukraine and just wanted back in Russia>Better strategic positionSure, the better outcome was a zerg rush taking Kyiv and capturing Zelensky before he turned Ukraine into a death camp and destroyed the country for his pointless war over two oblasts that were in open rebellion, but Russia was never going to be allowed to take all of Ukraine anyway.So this truly is the best possible outcome for Russia. There is no reason to war with Europe. It is an old, geriatric continent.If Putin goes to war with somebody else, it will probably be Kazakhstan, but they know better than Ukraine and have no NATO funding.
>>528756387You only support Ukraine because it's the most corrupt country in the world where the entire west washes their money.
>>528758646Ukraine forced Russia to stick 300,000 men on the border of Ukraine and walk in?If Ukraine can mind control that many Russians why can't they mind control them to turn around? Russians aren't human, so becoming part of Russia means you surrender your humanity.
>>528758359And none of the invasions you mentioned were so detrimental to your military capabilities and to the lives of the civilian population during the invasion itself. And for example Iraq, unlike Ukraine, actually had a history of invading internationally recognized countries and waging an actual ethnic persecutions (Kurds).
If you're Eastern European, and opened your eyes in the last 30 years, this is what you've seen:-fucking shitload of Israeli "property development" in major cities-depopulation propaganda -deteriorating patriotism, nationalism branded as evil (unless it's to the detriment of white nationalities)-youth completely lost their identity, young people are basically archetypes from American movies-a MASSIVE rise in real estate prices after Israeli "property development" has ended-most young professionals employed by foreign firms, not even speaking the professional business language of their own country-fucking insane warmongeringNow tell me, why should the Jewish president stop the depopulation of the Ukraine? Why should politicians, who are up the asses of foreign (mostly American) interests oppose a war that they finance? Why on earth would they secure cheap, reliable energy for the countries they're occupying?Think. It's not that complicated:-finance war, pump billions into a stagnant economy (EU completely dropped out of the AI race, mind you, so this is their only chance)-make the most resource rich country dry of men-inflict massive damage on Russia-repopulate the Ukraine (and other countries that will inevitably be dragged into this war) with browns, aka: new slave casteAnd now you have a B plan in case Israel collapses due to a failed military intervention on Iran
Death to russia
>>528758755And Kherson belongs to Russia forever? But I thought it was only about the Dumbass?
>>528758781Mention one cultural achievement by the Ukraine. Now do Russia.
>>528758822>lives of the civilian populationOpioid crisis?>detrimental to your military capabilities Billions left in arms/hardware in Afghanistan?The complete collapse of the middle class which was on its last thread? Dude, you fucking suck at this.
>>528758400If all jews where killed the world would be a better place kike
>>528758848Seems to not be going well since best kike ran out.
>>528755557>Why doesn't Trump just kill him? Seriously.Heads of state are not going to open of the can of worms of assassinating other heads of state.
Just start ww3 and nuke hoholgeria off the map. It's what they want anyway.
>>528759011he could kidnap him. that didn't seem to matter the last time the US did it.
>>528758781My dear memeflag, you don't know anything about the conflict period. The US overthrew Ukraine and immediately started bombing civilians in the east to instigate a war with Russia in 2014. Things cooled down and Ukraine lost, Minsk accords were signed. Then they armed and trained Ukraine with NATO weapons and advisors, built an army to go into the Donbass and do it again plus Zelensky started threatening to host hostile nuclear weapons on his soil. At that point Russia was forced to intervene. The entire thing is a proxy war of aggression against Russia via Ukraine who is to be used to attrition and inflict casualties against Russia until there are no more Ukrainians left, this is the meaning of "to the last Ukrainian".Contrast with the Cuban missile crisis. If Russia wanted war they would have done this in 2014 which would have been better for them anyways and actually far better for Ukraine, so many fewer would have died. To top it off, the US and UK gave Ukraine "security guarantees" in the 90s in exchange for nuclear disarmament. In reality neither country had any place doing such things in Ukraine but it was the US that then actually soft coup'd the Ukrainian government by installing Yuschenko then hard coup'd Ukraine when they rejected hinm and elected Yanukovych.
>>528758852It is strategic that the entire coastal line is closed north and east of Crimea are taken, otherwise these positions would be indefensible.Peace between Ukraine and Russia shall hinge on the fact that both sides become fortresses, and that one side cannot invade the other. If the plan from Russia and the USA pass, there will be an international force that is not so personally passionate about destroying Ukraine responsible for the bulk of the border defenses around line zero of the border. Russia is not going to negotiate their strategic capacity to defend Crimea away.When you think about it, Russia's demands are not depraved or excessive. Most of this land was mostly useless for Ukraine and attempted against the stability of the country. A new Ukraine redrawn around the war borders would be more stable, which is important.There will be a lot of cleaning house in Ukraine once the war is over, especially due to all the soldiers demanding compensation. Zelensky doesn't look like the type who tips a waiter, much less he'll pay anyone's retirement. And he already says that true elections are now impossible in Ukraine, so there'll probably need to be a big shake up to remove his clique from office.
>>528759116>he could kidnap him.Not under diplomatic protection though. And maduro is a perfect example that heads of state are not going to assassinate other heads of state.
>>528759116Can't kidnap someone who is never in Ukraine anyways.
>>528757956No not in the same way zelenskike is. That guy is a literal jew. Trump and putler are some form of Christians. ANTHER lying faggot for Ukrainistan...
>>528758903>Opioid crisis?Brought that shit onto themselves, American or NATO ordinance didn't kill them, unlike Russian and Ukrainian ordinance that kills the civilians in Ukraine currently, as we comment actually.>Billions left in arms/hardware in Afghanistan? And how much did it improve Afghani military capabilities? I doubt it did much, if at all. And let's not get carried away here, I'm talking about the invasion phase, where Russia is still stuck on, nation building comes later.>The complete collapse of the middle class which was on its last thread?Oh yea that's due to Afganistan and Iraq. Maybe a very small bit, but there's something else ro blame.
>>528759298Trump needs Maduro alive to squeal whatever justifications the USA came up with in order to justify kidnapping him in the first place. Maduro was not the chief of any cartel, but in exchange of a good plea deal, he'll confess whatever you people want. Trump needed some form of resolution because he had a massive US fleet parked at Venezuela's shorelines firing at Darwin award winning fishing boats and it would be very embarrassing to just retreat and waste billions.
>>528755243They can't even kill the fucking kike because money making machine is in full force.I WANT TO FUCKING LIVE.DRINK BEER AND EAT CHICKEN.THATS FUCKING ALLAND THIS FUCKING KIKE STILL DEMANDS SHIT NO ONE CAN GIVE HIMFUCKING JEW MOTHEFUCKER KIKE BITCH COKE SHNOZZLE DIARRHEA CUNTFUCK
>>528759468He already applied for not guilty. You don't get a plea deal for that.
>>528759409I hope you fucking die you warmongering piece of shit hohol. Brutally and painfully.
>>528755382Does it make it easier for you to sleep when you spit out such garbage? Like atleast try to be objective lmao, fact is the situation is hopeless for both.Ukraine will never get back their regions lost and Russia will never take the entire Ukraine, the only thing they can do is make a middle ground peace deal which they seem to be unwilling to do.
>>528759298why are they insisting on Ukraine having elections? I think that's why, they want Zelenskyy to leave his seat
>>528755557Based. Total Pigger Death. Or at least put Zelenskike in a cell next to Maduro.
>>528759191literally every word is a demonstrable lie. Do better pidor, or the chechen supervisor will slap you again for such sloppy gibberish.
>>528759706>they want Zelenskyy to leave his seatand what will change?
>>528759706For one, because donbass would vote once again to be under russia.
>>528759533Zelensky has his own blackmail on US politicians. Ukraine is a major hub for human trafficking. Those who didn't want to go to Epstein's Island would just pay some money to get their pedo fix/adrenalchrome from Ukraine.
>>528759533STOP DEMANDING HIM TO CONTINUE THE WAR, YOU WARMONGERING BELIGERANT FUCKS!Zelensky wants PEACE, he begs for it. But no, the UKRAINIAN PEOPLE, he says, won't allow him.Stop being such a warmongering hohol and let your leader give you peace.>>528759542Very dumb of him.Brazilian leadership told him what was what two weeks before the kidnap. There was a 4chan post with the US side too, what was gonna happen. Maduro was informed that the best outcome was his personal surrender alongside his wife to the USA, then business continues as usual in Venezuela. No one there is prosecuted, public order is preserved, and just Maduro is subtracted.Maduro was informed that he'd have a comfortable life in the USA if he just spoke whatever the americans demanded him to say.Instead, he pleads 'not guilty'.What a dumb idea. He was going to spend 3 years maximum in prison, and instead of his filthy hyper-vigilance NY jail, it was going to be a more comfortable place with more privacy.You can always rely on these South American fucks ruining everything for them, eh.We tell them: you can't beat the gringos, let them run the show and play your part well. They never listen.
>>528759886It already did like 5 times how many more times do they need to vote before you fuck off.
>>528755243mutts are russians assetseuros don't want the war to end so they can keep testing new weapons, and some of them are subverted by russians assetsboth russia and ukraine are being bled out as slow as possible onto the altar of military weapons developmentfrance, england, maybe italy and spain, all have the aerial means to bomb to bits the kerch bridge and every rail or road across the frontier and stop russian logistics within days at most
>>528759692>Ukraine will never get back their regionsthat's what they said about Kharkiv.
>>528759883no longer the head of state, they can now kill him, thus sending a message to his successor
>>528759883Yeah, the west-installed puppet who insists on continuing the west’s proxy war against russia not being in power would change absolutely nothing…
>>528759886>donbass would votekek
>>528755382It's not his country. He's a jew.
>>528755557Anon come the fuck on, he's an actor, not a "head of state". You replace him and nothing changes.
>>528759941It would put zelensky in a real pickle though if he was relected AND dunbass did it again in the same election. Because it would legitimize russia’s claim on it.
>>528759964What you said about Vietnam too. Government collapse usually means everything is lost. That's what will happen. That isn't a maybe.
>>528759976many heads of state were killed over the decades, why can't they do it now?
>>528758139He's a jew himself
>>528759533If your politicians are so unreasonable, why don't Ukrainians protest the government? Why don't you sabotage the infrastructure, military efforts, stop the economy? Any partisan attacks anywhere? Many Ukrainians were happy to show their grievances during ww2 against the Germans by either joining the Red Army or by sabotaging the Wehrmacht. Why are Ukrainians such pussies these days?>>528759670Nah, I'll be fine. And you're the one trying to justify the Russian botched invasion of another sovereign nation, which they by the way consider a brotherly nation. Justified or not, any American invasion of another country had MUCH fewer casualties than Russian invasion of Ukraine during the INVASION PHASE.
>>528760135you haven't the foggiest idea of what you're blathering about, do you?
>>528755243Trump is a fucking nigger
>>528760246That you are a retard. That's all I understand from your stupid opinions.
>>528755243>inappropriatelyDid he grab him by the pussy?
>>528755736>Nafo nigger flagPost without your VPN rajesh
>>528759816Show which one is a lie. Victoria Nuland is literally on the phone with the US ambassador to Ukraine in 2014 picking Ukraine's new government.When the Cuban Missile Crisis happened, the US nearly started WW3 over it, to get Soviet missiles out of Cuba. It ended in a mutual missile withdrawal because the US actually put missiles in Turkey first and Cuba was merely a response. Clearly some things never change. Also, we still have cold war era nuclear bombs right now in Muslim Turkey. Ever ask why if the cold war ended 25 years ago?
>>528760176>why don't Ukrainians protest the government?they have even in 2025."These were the first anti-government demonstrations since the start of the Russian invasion of Ukraine."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_anti-corruption_protests_in_Ukraine
>>528756611Dude had bigger tits as a man than when playing pretend as a woman.
>>528759964>aug 2022Oh man that was 3.5 years ago lmao. I remember fags posting "CLOSING THE CAULDRON" and that russian would encircle ukraine in the donbass and then lost kharvik anywayBut now it looks like russia conquered that area anyway.
>>528759927>>528759816Zelensky is a puppet of the US and UK. Let Marco Rubio explain. However it's clearly not staelmated, it's a war of attrition turned against Ukraine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzJfLDr97Fg
>>528755680>Ukraine IS the aggressor.So, here we have an example of trying to rewrite history as it takes place.
>>528759964>russian force buildup now outnumbers urkaineFeel s like russia is going to slowly grind them down though.
>>528760498did they chose who would be the president of Ukraine?
>>528760726and russia occupied only about 1.5% of Ukraine since then
>>528758837This is the obvious takeaway for the past 30 years, but of course, noone makes any comment on this
>>528760729>Zelensky is a puppet of the US and UKwhy isn't he bending to Trump's will then and accepting "the peace deal"?
>>528755313Hohol retards voted for the cocaine addicted Jew. They voted for this. But why do other countries have to bankroll him?
>>528760738Ukraine:>Banned the Russian language>Removed street signs in Russian>Bombed Russian speakers in the east>Banned churches>Gave a picture of Mary with a blacked out Jesus to the Pope>Threw monks out of MonasteriesAlso the people in the east overwhelmingly voted for Yanukovych so when he was overthrown by a foreign country, they seceded. If Ukraine loves these people so much and will kill the rest of Ukraine to keep governing them, why do they hate them so much?
>>528760774>russia is going to slowly grind them downpootin doesn't have that much time left and at this rate it will take them years
>>528755382there wont be ukraine without ukrainians.. imagine if we fought to the last finn back in the days, so that our leaders would get rich?
>>528760502I think I should've made myself more clear; why don't Ukrainians protest the Ukrainian governments military efforts of defending itself (or however you wanna call it) against Russia. That being said, I fully support Ukrainian protests again corruption. They've been one of the most corrupt countries in Europe since their independence. And since 2014 any (in reasonable amount) embezzlement and waste of allocated money and supplies for the Ukrainian military by the officials, businessmen etc should be considered as a form of treason.
>>528760926Because politics is a show and Trump wants to appear tough on Russia too. The only reason the US stopped arming Ukraine is because it ran out of weapons. Trump was actually the first president to send lethal aid to Ukraine, not even Obama did that. The other thing is that Europe and the rest of NATO is backing him, although they have very little power. Zelensky desperately wants to stay in power for his own safety. So multiple factors. There's probably a bit more to it also.
>>528761091Putin is only 73 he has a nother 20 years. This dialectic is tiresome, Russian leadership will take the land because Russia has a bottomless pit of central asian mercenary manpower and ukraine does not.
>>528756611Military types seem to come under the man or woman category a lot. I think that one is really a female.
>>528755557Trump serves Israel, Zelensky is his superior. It's all a show, freeing up Ukraine for Jewish lebensraum is the objective.
>>528761197The US under Clinton has been operating in Ukraine since the 90's for the express purpose of attacking Russia by any means. In the 90s the US tried to collapse and destroy the Russian economy which was already struggling. It's similar to Balkan corruption where the leaders sold their countries out to the EU. My personal belief is that before the USSR fell, Israeli and jewish interests were ready to buy up state assets for pennies on the dollar, George Soros was already in eastern Europe as soon as the Warsaw Pact fell apart. Maybe even sooner, covertly, under Gorbachev's rule when things started opening up.
BREAKING: Millions of Argentinians are PROTESTING against the Zionist president Javier MileiMilei said: “12 years in prison for antisemites”Argentina is going to collapse very soon.https://x.com/John_F_kJr/status/2023922791528222843
>>528761132That train has long departed. Ukraine is demographically fucked, it wasn't doing good at all before 2022. But now as it currently stands, Ukraine has too great war damage on infrastructure and population, many fertile and working age/able men population has either died or is physically or mentally too affected by the war to continue their lives snd build back the country, fertility rate is almost nonexistent, population pyramid is fucked, many children, fertile and work able adults left the country too, it's very corrupt... I could go on and on, but Ukraine as a nation and country as we know or knew it is irreparable gone. Over.
>>528761008>Said you have to use government Documents in Ukrainian nothing about speaking Russian in public or doing normal business>Street signs should be in the language of the actual country, should the US make Spanish street signs?>Bombed Russians who invaded the east while pretending to be Ukrainian>Banned a Church that's an Open FSB front that preaches the extermination of Ukrainians, hmm, why should they support a Church stating they should all die?>And Russia has a church where Stalin is in the place of Jesus>You mean the monastery that was sheltering Russian spies? Real smart of them. /s
>>528761008>Ukraine:>Banned the Russian languagewhere, how?>Removed street signs in Russianwhat does that even mean? And, Ukrainian is the only official language in Ukraine.>Bombed Russian speakers in the eastkek, where? how did they know which people in which apartment speak what language? And, since the invasion, russia killed infinitely more of these mysterious "russian speaker" then Ukraine ever could.>Banned churchesnope, only the branch of the FSB that calls itself "the russian orthodox church">Gave a picture of Mary...how the fuck does it even concern pootin?>Threw monks out of Monasteriesyou mean the corrupt, gluttonous, subversive russian agent that likes boys and expensive cars - Pasha-mercedes? AND the russian "orthdox church" had a certain monopoly on alcohol and cigarette distribution!
>>528760498There you go again, why can't she use the mind control she used on Ukraine on Russia?
>>528755243Z.
>>528761272>Russia has a bottomless pit of central asian mercenary manpowerAHAHAHAHAHA! they've already scooped up all the convicts, bums and retards, the last two months seen a sharp drop in their recruitment. pootin's running out of money, so much so that they had to slash the sign up bonuses in half in 10 regions.
>>528760498>Victoria Nuland is literally on the phone with the US ambassador to Ukraine in 2014 picking Ukraine's new governmentHere you go, anon.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIvRljAaNgg
>>528761562What about the Jewish influence and lobby over the Russian politics, culture and economy? Russia and Israel are pretty close. I won't argue about the Jewish sense for business in countries that are unstable or in bad shape in general. I can very much believe it because my country (well not a country back then but you get the point I hope) went through Jewish claws back in late 19th century. That being said, what Russia has done doesn't help their ethic people's or Ukrainians, Jews do though.
>>528761201Anon there are massive military boneyards full of weapons. The US has 3500 Abrams tanks in storage and around 2000 Bradley's in storage.But the US doesn't want to just give them away.
>>528755243CANCEL THE ATTACK ON IRAN AND ATTACK UKRAINE INSTEAD
>>528755243The fact that this scumbag is still walking around should tell you that you are watching theater and all world leaders are playing roles. Only thing that isn't fake is the ever-increasing number of dead Whites. That part is real.
>>528755243Why can't this maggot wear a tie?
>>528761933>>Said you have to use government Documents in UkrainianDoes this not mean people who cannot speak Ukrainian are denied essential services though? Kek retard.Also Russian was spoken in Ukraine before Ukraine even existed or the Ukrainian language existed, actual Ukrainian is essentially a Russian-Polish hybrid only spoken in the far far west which was under Polish occupation. Historically speaking. The jusstification for banning the church was "ties to Russia"but the church and Ukraine have ties to Russia because they are part of it.
>>528762439he's a literal kike dictatorship your country help keep as a dictator until the whole white population is exterminated. wtf are you talking about? He can probably slap trump and nothing would happen.to the last holhol or algo.
>>528761942>what does that even mean? And, Ukrainian is the only official language in Ukraine.Russian used to be an official and state recognized language of Ukraine, in fact Ukrainian is a minority language, depending on how it's actually even defined.>only the branch of the FSB that calls itself "the russian orthodox church"Pic related. Ukrainian Christianity is from Kievan Rus. That's why before Ukrainians were Ukrainian, they were called Ruthenians along with Rusyns, another East Slavic Orthodox group further west - Meaning Rus.
>>528762536>people who cannot speak Ukrainian are denied essential serviceshold on, aren't russian and Ukrainian "basically the same language"?>actual Ukrainian is essentially a Russian-Polish hybrid so what's the problem? are the so-called "russian speakers" too stupid? AND this never happens in real life, it's all russian propaganda and excuses for the retarded war.>have ties to Russiawhat does that even mean? many countries in the world speak the same language, do they all have to unite under the rule of some midget in a former empire capital now? none of your retarded bullshit makes any sense.
>>528762692>Ukrainian Christianity is from Kievan Rus.das rite, not some "moscovian russia" AND the russian "patriarch" (the position was actually created by Stalin in 1943) can't even produce the Tomos, the right to govern in the jurisdiction!
>96 billion dollarsThat's pocket change at this point for that manlet.They've laundered way way WAY more then that. It's in the trillions (plural)
>>528755243>Trump, Vance and Rubio truly care about UkraineNo way he actually thinks they give two shits about Ukraine
>>528762945Ukrainian has a high mutual intelligibility with Russian relatively for languages but the vocabulary is different because of lots of Polish loanwords plus softer pronunciation. Otherwise it's the same base language, grammar, structure, most of the vocabulary. So someone who only speaks Russian is not going to understand everything especially more technical and advanced terms. >AND this never happens in real lifeEnglish is like 40% French words due to Normans. The closest relative to English is Dutch and it is not at all mutually intelligible aside, not even close aside from the most simple sentences. Please stop talking because you are functionally retarded. Ukrainian-Russian are much closer than English-Dutch though.
>>528763653They didn't give Ruzzia $200 billion dollars to fight their war for starters
>>528763203Moscow was established by Rus princes. Also we say "Kievan Rus" but no such thing existed, it was historically actually Rus. That's why Ukrainians were called Ruthenians, not Kievan Rutheanians and why Rusyn aren't called Kievan-Rusyns.
>>528755243No Ukrainian wants to live under Putin's empire, he is a leader doing all he can to save his people from being genocided at worst or from living in a dystopian brutalist dictatorship at best
This thread is an example why gore needs to be posted and why Biden did not negotiate
>>528757293what the fuck are you talking about you faggot /k/ike ?ukraine is so utterly devastated in this war, they will never recover as a nation.stubbornly fighting on untill the last ukrainian male dies is ludicrousukrainians are literally daring Russia to start carpet bombing them untill this entire nato-proxy war charade is finally over
>>528763744>different because of lots of Polish loanwordskek, the russian language has a shitton of loanwords from the Turkic, French, German, Dutch, English etc, maybe that's why russians can't understand the Ukrainian, which is a more archaic, more authentic Slavic language? russians don't even have the very basic terms/notions in their own language, such as months of the year!picrel is "The 30,000 foreign origin words in the russian language, 1868". There were russian-Ukrainian dictionaries as far back as 1798.
>>528763956>Moscow was established by Rus princes.and? London was founded by the Romans.>Ruthenians and Rusynswhat's the difference?
>>528764848>>Ruthenians and Rusyns>what's the difference?None, that's the point. They refer to the same thing, Russians, that's what they all plus Ukrainians are.
Trump needs to recognise that in 2017 we were joking about supporting the Poo tin because of the colourful balaclava dykes who were stalking him at that time. We knew nothing about him until I cracked it and warned everyone about the globotised state of that jew. Russia is a big helpless drunk miserable 75% asian mafia bullied doofus and always has been slapped around by anybody who cared to do so. They are shit at war and will always loose to any opponent. There is no point continuing the (((media))) stoked boomer delusions of yesteryears fake narrative. Russia couldn’t fight its way out if a wet paper bag.. The USSR was held up by the Rothschilds central banking cartel who had created WW2. Total war is scientific war which suited globo’s ‘god goal’ but total war is risky so they created ‘cold war’. They gave the USSR atomic secrets to create a-bombs, spied for them and even fed the stupid cucky communists who despite their continual 4 year and 5 year plans never for one single year of the USSR’s existence managed to even feed themselves. Today the fake news psy op globo pet is chingchong china pong (the cccp).The ukraine-russia plan is threefold in its goals which i have described since the fake-news war period at the start of the protocols-like war (described that way by Israeli media, i’ve never read anything like the protocols but i linked and capped israel talking about putin being a jew and again when a coked up zelensky went there gloating over the fulfilment of a 1920’s book which contains a jewish plan for creating an international babylon in what is now Ukraine). I am not restating the goals here in detail.>rob russians in perpetuity even after putins end>create a un protectorate ukraine babylon along the lines planned by jews for over a century in writting>arm the illegitimate EU abominationIt’s time to defeat putin and cousin zlonksky both. And the EU. The two jewish dictators are close personal friends and working together.
>>528755382>finish flagopinion ignored
So according to ukraine if we catch one Rabbi spying for Israel we can legally close and loot every synagog.I cant believe we needed a jew to show us this one simple trick!
>>528755243>>528755382For what it's worth, Ukraine is obviously the good side in this conflict. But we live in a material world with material realities. They're dying for no fucking reason, and we're paying for it.That doesn't make any sense and isn't in anyone's interest, least of all mine and by extension my country's.In a perfect world I want Ukraine to win, but since that's obviously impossible they'll just have to cope and stop stealing my money.
>>528758694No you stupid ignorant cunt a filthy memeflag no less. Russia begged nato not to encroach, to respect the Minsk accords, and king nigger and newland bragged as they natoified and put military bases in more and more territory for years. You’re trash.
>>528761942Nice cope, goal post moving and justifying bad deeds.>when my side does it then its ok!I hate you globohomo niggers so much, your purging cant come soon enough.
>>528764053Or you can sign up with the reddit brigade instead and die for gay rights, fag.
>>528764709Ukrainian has a way higher percentage of foreign words most of which happen to be Polish though, all languages have loanwords, Russian and Ukrainian both have German words, Russian has Finnish and Swedish loanwords, etc. Vocabulary isn't the sole definition of language which is why English isn't a romance language. From a historical perspective both Ukraine and Russia were peopled by the same wave of Slavs, speaking the same early east Slavic in post Roman times. They are the same people and the languages aside from Vocabulary and pronunciation are practically the same, but this is still enough to affect mutual intelligibility especially at a higher functional level as you are saying. >There were russian-Ukrainian dictionaries as far back as 1798.Ukrainian Identity did not even exist then. Ukraine also means "borderland", literally.
>>528755665Because they are in a do nothing, lose scenario. Russia can just keep piss pounding them, take a little here little there. The west is collectively tired of this jew bullshit plan that half of us saw as retarded senseless slaughter. This is why someone not of a nations ethnicity should never be the leader- generally, people think negotiate to stop a senseless slaughter of your people if youve already lost and the enemy isnt trying to genocide you. But thats the point isnt it you kike rat, to kill as many slavs as possible since they slaughtered you cunts for crimes in the past.
>>528755382take your meds retard
>>528755243The terms are : Unconditional fucking surrender and Poland's nextHow is it this hard for Kikelensky to understand?
>>528755359>>528755454>>528756229>both sides controlled against huwhitecopethese types of mutts/nazis and refuse of world nations living in these filthy colonies would be celebrating if their mongrel ruso-polish-turk proxy was winning as they expected in their dreams
