4chan doesn't seem that friendly to Christianity. Is 4chan gnostic?
>>531390270no stick
>>531390270For some reason Gnosticism just made sense to me. I reached some of the same conclusions before even knowing that Gnosticism existed. Why?
>>531390270Christianity is anti-white and feminist
>>531390270I HATE IALDABAOTH
I like knowledge
>>531390270abrahamism and its consequences have been a disasterworked ok for a while as a reason for whites/the went to cooperate more than kill each other but that time has long since passed
>>531391473This modern shit isn't even because of Christianity, it's because of socialism
>>531391567*abrahamismChristianity in its official capacities does nothing but support all thatwhen Ben shapiro is constantly telling you to go to church you should be pausing to reflect why that is
>>531390270>Is 4chan gnostic?No. The Gnostic still trembles before the same obsession: sin, salvation, escape, redemption. He does not overcome Christianity; he spiritualizes its sickness. He makes the world even more contemptible, more ghostly, more hostile to life.I do not want a secret god behind the world. I want the strength to affirm the world. Not flight from life, not redemption from flesh, not some mystical back door out of reality, but a great Yes to what is.
>>531390270Gnosticism is Christian
>>5313902704chan hates Christians the same way most people hate Christians. They can just say it here without fear of looking unhinged or deranged for rabidly hating one specific religion while bending over and spreading their cheeks for Muslims. IRL that would make you seem a little bit of a bumlicking Islamist. Online, you can just go back to watching porn, doing drugs and fantasising about erasing your homosexuality by becoming a jihadi.
>>531391750>They can just say it here without fear of looking unhinged or deranged for rabidly hating one specific religion while bending over and spreading their cheeks for Muslims.>the site as a whole is some monolithtotalabrahamicdeathall of themJudaism, Christianity, Islam, all of their subsectsTOTAL
>>531391737Gnosticism wasn’t particularly Christian in many ways but I have sympathy with them on account of being persecuted by the Catholic Church. Imagine being tortured to death for having incorrect beliefs by men who pray to the dead and think they are eating the literal flesh of God.
>>531390270YES>>531391716SHUT UP NIGGER YOU SPEAK FOR NONE OF USI HATE THE DEMIURGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>531391974free Isabel
>>531391974I'm showing that image to my gf.
>>531391904Abrahamism is nonsense. Abraham was the first Christian. There is no “sub set.” You either understand that Abraham’s faith is the key to all faith or you’re a blithering goon on the same level as the Jews who forgot everything he tried to teach them.
>>531391665So Islam should be destroyed too?
I'm immune to 'ewish 'ops.
>>531390270The Christian vs Pagan shitflinging is so boring I don’t even open the threads anymore
If Jewsus was allowed to criticize the jews I'm allowed to criticize the Christians.Christendom has been a complete and utter failure on all fronts
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>>531390270>4chan doesn't seem that friendly to ChristianityI just don't "get it". I genuinely tried at some point too, and a lot of people who share my political beliefs seem to really love it. Finding a "good" christian is rare, in my experience many of them are scumbags. >>531391750>She (jewish kike) acts like we pull our punches on any of our opinions hereYou're just mad that people don't feel intense hatred for muslims because you are kike. shutup bitch.
>>531390270Gnostics are still Abrahamic faggots, with very few exceptions.
>>531390270Zen Buddhist personally.Gnostics had only a glimpse
Imagine how many MEN have been made to feel guilty by pederast priests and their acolyte roasties by this TRASH religion.We should make priests fear for their lives.
>>531390270Because pol is a containment zone. It's is meant to control those few of us that "got away." When control is no longer an option then demoralization will do. Christianity remoralizes, encourages, and gives hope to people. It takes control away from the Jews and into the hands of Christ. So all anti-Christ threads are pushed while all Christian threads are deleted.
>>531390270I am gnostic
>>531390270gnostic is applying human (greek?) logic to the semetic religions Genesis says at first there was nothing Then there was light.Ergo their god is nothing, not of this reality. It's where all the matrix stuff comes from.
Also OP is retarded. There's such thing as gnostic Christianity or Esoteric Christianity. The /x/ general on it is preddy gud
>>531390270Would you be friendly to a religion who's God neglected his creation, abused them and abandoned them on multiple occasions?
you mean aside from the fact that IRL christians are busy either helping/supporting the flood of European nations through shitskin biomass or unleash armageddon for their jewish patrons while on /pol/ christians have been a large reason why the board turned to shit with their incessant room temperature IQ spam?
>>531392094>Abraham’s faith is the key to all faithIf you're jewish or spiritually cucked by jews, yes.
>>531392098yes>>531392094>Abraham was the first Christian.then why does he appear in all 3 religions? along with many other OT characters and the vast majority of the OT's content?Christianity and judaism's point of divergence is agreeing on Yeshua being the messiah; Islam too but they equate him with Muhammed as a prophet, where the Jews send him to hell
>>531390270>4chan is not friendly to christkikes>how about a different sect of christkikes
>>531390748I kinda get it but also I dont.On one hand yeah it makes sense, worlds cruel and uncaring, yet gnostics end goal is literally the same as Kabbalah kikes.Tikkun olam, reunite all beings as one.Translators note: While Tikkun Olam literally translates to repair the world, this is done by destroying the world.
>>531390270John the Baptist was the last prophet. Jesus was a fake.
As someone whose spirituality is best described as Gnostic, I find myself seeking the path of Christ, not Christ-ianity.
>>531391716Lol what a gigacopium. You know that world and truth dont care what you want?
>>531390270If there is any truth to Christianity it is the gnostic variety.
>>531390270Should be agnostic but is atheistic with an emphasis on nihilism.Sometimes you guys are alright.
>>531390748Sneed's Feed & Seed (formerly Chuck's). Also, "Bart's Fart & Shart" doesn't make any sense because the store wasn't called "Feed & Sheed" under Sneed's ownership so stop posting it.
>>531392767personally I believe Christianity is a subversion of a movement subverting the jews; yeshua being one of the only Jews to ever attempt subverting them in favor of goyimseeing the chosen/goyim bit had to die for the benefit of everyone, including jews
>>531391904Seems like a lot to take on at once. Maybe we should strategize some and pick one to target first:>the largest and most violent one, that hates you because they think you serve the Jews.>the second largest and kindest one, that you think serves the Jews>the smallest one that is directly responsible for the degradation and genocide of your peoples and nations, and from which the conflict you have with the other two factions is entirely hinged.Can you rank order these in order of importance?
I think it becoming about Yeshua and making Yeshua the only chosen one was a subversion Saul introduced, so it wouldn't overwhelm judaism
4chan is pagan.
>>531392976>>the smallest one that is directly responsible for the degradation and genocide of your peoples and nations, and from which the conflict you have with the other two factions is entirely hinged.1>>the largest and most violent one, that hates you because they think you serve the Jews.2>>the second largest and kindest one, that you think serves the Jews3but one can;t solve problems if they're unwilling to even acknowledge they are problems
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>>531390949Romans worshipped yaldabaoth, kike like you are weak and kvetch about him.
>>531393170Anon, I have been asking this question for more than a decade, and you are the first person to ever answer it.I sincerely thank you.Here is a follow up question: in a world absent Jews (all gone); what do you think would be your primary motivation for genociding Christians?
>>531392791I do not ask the world to care. I ask whether you are strong enough to look at it without smuggling in a nursery tale. The question is not what I want. The question is whose illusion is uglier: mine, or the man who cannot endure existence unless it is wrapped in “truth,” “justice,” and “redemption.”
gnosticism is reddit as all fuck and encompassed half by sóycucks that don't actually practice anything but think it's le "aesthetics" and half by actual raving schizos. and the first group thinks they're the latter because they post quirky demiurge memes. world denying religions are all gay (((eastern))) nonsense and are fundamentally opposed to the way european gods interact with the earth
>>531390270HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>531390270/pol/ is a Christian board. Always has been. Always wills.
>>531393322I aim to pleasemostly myself, others are nice if it happens>in a world absent Jews (all gone); what do you think would be your primary motivation for genociding Christians?Jews are the only ones that must be genocided, and they pick at the gaps and divisions and delusions and introduce more all the time, and their issue is in their genes and can't be fixed, so they all must gosadly that's not possiblethe religion itself is what needs to go and it would be easier than one would think absent the kikesby total abrahamic death I do mean the religion(s) itself
>>531393562And what are your plans for those who refuse to give up their faith?This is the part you should probably be careful not to sound like a cartoon version of a communist Jew.
>>531393528Incorrect. It’s an atheist board. Christians are mentally ill.
>>531390270gnosticism is kabbalah for goyim
>>531390748There is a source and we can connect to it.
sadly the actual reality outside of shitposting and postulation is we play the games the kikes set us up to play, because there is no other choice, reallyany opposition is so vastly outmatched as to be laughable
>>531393857> any opposition is so vastly outmatched as to be laughableYou underestimate yourself.To a Jew, your most unacceptable and detestable form of opposition is mere survival.So, survive. Easier said than done with what is coming, but their only phallic victory is your demise.
>>531393783>like a cartoon version of a communist Jew.Like a real version of a communist jew, they are going kill all the Christians again aren't they? Everyone is already salivating over it online right now, and they are ramping that shit up with Erika Kirk and Christian Zionisms ties to Israel.
>>531390270Most Gnostic traditions are deeply rooted in Christ. They just interpret his message differently. Also, while I do notice a fair number of posts showing an interest in Gnosticism, it does need to be stressed that it's not enough to simply hate the demiurge like >>531390949I don't see a lot of people talking about what they're doing to achieve Gnosis. Do y'all meditate regularly? Have you obtained wisdom from the divine spark within you? Are you reading any spiritual texts or doing research on topics such as NDEs and the like to get a better understanding of the nature of the world? Are you fasting or doing nofap to cleanse yourself of material attachments? If you are Gnostic, what are you doing in the pursuit of Gnosis?
>>531390270It’s all about how you sell it, whether you weaponize it and how hypocritical you come off. Not religious myself but I do support your religiosity provided you’re not an asshole about it. Seriously, no one cares. Find a religious group if you feel the impulse to share.
>>531393364It does not matter what illusion is uglier. The only thing that matters is what lies beyond the illusion. Only truth matters. The only thing that we should "believe" in is what we are convinced is the truth, whether or not it is something that we like.
>>531394318Well, the rhetoric is they MUST go and he and those who say the same demand total eradication.As usual, he says the doesn’t plan to kill the Christians… but that leaves him with rather limited options if they don’t willingly do exactly as he desires.And I suppose that’s why he stopped responding; the answer is Soviet style reeducation camps. The only alternative for those like him (not him specifically, he was very cooperative and reasonable) is to walk back their anti Christian rhetoric and agree that actually Jews are the problem.He already admitted Jews are the real problem, so I don’t think he is a real shill, just someone who fell for their rhetoric.He is a victim of a divide and conquer psyop that has been going on /pol/ for a long, long time.
>>531391665OK, Ben. I'll go to Joel webbons church.
>>531392767>I have a personal relationship with my rabbi yeshuaCool story, queer.
>>531393827>>531394408Gnostism is heresy. Classical apostate Christianity has absorbed western paganism. Gnosticsm absorbed Eastern paganism. Gnostism teaches that all physical matter and flesh is evil and from Satan. Like Buddhist, they reject sex, marriage and procreation as evil and originating from Satan. The Gnostic claim that salvation came only from mystical Gnosticism, or self-knowledge, left no room for the truth of God’s Word. They claimed superior knowledge through secret revelation and boasted that they were the “correctors of the apostles.” Gnosticism intertwined philosophy, speculation, and pagan mysticism with apostate Christianity. It's a bunch of mystical larpers trying to update Christianity as hip and cool for Eastern pagans. Same as how apostates adopted Christmas, the trinity, to appeal to western pagans.
>>531390270Sort of, but I don't believe the demiurge (Vishwakarma) is evil, rather a divine creator and aspect of Brahman who's word works through the sun, or Surya (the Aryan creator of the material) to create and provide life, and to return to that you have to ascend through the seven chakras and effectively sacrifice yourself like Prajapati, the Lord of Creatures, or Baphomet, through the transformative power of Agni (Horus) and the unity of polarities, making the 2 one. Because of Prajapatis initial act of sacrifice, fire sacrifice (burnt offerings) was the main component of the Aryan religion and the most important thing for maintaining cosmic order. Purushamedha means "human sacrifice" and it cleansed not only the self of karmic debt but the community as well, and to this day offering your false self to God, or dying before you die, emulating the seasons and Agnis rebirth, remains the most Aryan thing you can do.
>>531393783>accidentally close window>lose entire extensive reply>have to do email verification and literally 10 captchas to post againI'll remember the reply eventually but ATM I'm too frustrated, I;ll get back to you
>>531395268>As usual, he says the doesn’t plan to kill the Christians… but that leaves him with rather limited options if they don’t willingly do exactly as he desires.Atheist-progressives will likely attempt to replicate the normalization they did during covid>Calm down, chud, wearing a mask is optional>No, chud, vaccines aren't coming, but we need to mask up>No,chud, taking the vaxx isn't mandatory, but you need to mask up>Yes, chuddie chud, you NEED to get the vaxx not to kill grandmaWe all know lefties consider Christians IRL to be nazis/far-right. The infiltrator types skinsuit on /pol/ to "hello my fellow white nationalists, we sure do hate those pro-brown Christians, ammirite?", but anyone who's spent time in academia knows how the social engineers view religion in the real world.
>>531393783they can believe whatever they wantbut the religion itself gets treated with the same stigmas as any such cult, loses all larger organization and influence (scientology should be treated this way as well for that matter), loses exemption, people ascribing it it get the same level of cutl-like scrutinzatioin for any public/military office, et ceteraloses all legitimacyrequire consent of maturity to have it forced on you as some "truth", to eliminate childhood indoctrinationswithout all the forcing Islam especially would die out to an easily nullifiable thing fairly quicklyat least that was the gist of that post, I probably said it bettermaybe I should keep things like history and cooki-nah
>>531391716based life affirmer
>>531395445>Gnostism is heresy.So is denying the trinity, my dude.>The Gnostic claim that salvation came only from mystical Gnosticism, or self-knowledge, left no room for the truth of God’s Word. That mystical knowledge is knowledge that comes from God. You are listening to God who is within you, rather than second or third hand mystical revelations from other people. Christ tells us to love God and love neighbor. How can you love God if you don't know him? Do you think you know someone because you've read a book someone wrote about him thousands of years ago? God's alive now. You can talk to him now. The knowledge of the Gnostics is not a secret, though it's not something you learn by talking to other Gnostics. It's something you learn by cutting out the middleman and going directly to God.
>>531395586>>531395268I want eradication of the abrahamic eligion but as I said, without the kike influence it would be easier than people think to achieve without having to totally eradicate the people who are Christians and muslimsI'm not even an atheist btw I'm a christian apostate that doesn't hate Yeshua
The world is beautiful when there are on jews and niggers, the only way I can cope is thinking God is giving us an impossible test and we'll become stronger after we over come the great evil of niggers and jews and fucking goys.
>>531393478Why is the nothingness meme important?
>>531395454And to clarify, when I say "return to that" I mean Brahman which Vishwakarma is an aspect of. Amun.
>>531391716I m more like a somewhat idealistic hedonist.
>>531395268There is someone also bolstering christianity (less-kiked versions) behind the scenes, I'm not sure what faction is involved in that. I can just say White makes right and toss up a shield that way. Really all I can do. If it's going to be gay race communism then I'm going to have to be on the Christian side anyway I'm guessing. >>531395586The problem is that you can't say they're wrong with a lot of their assertions. Christianity has truly been a bane on White civilization recently. I've spent 100's of hours reading this dialogue, back and forth here on this board, and even still I am not convinced that Christianity is not harmful to our racial goals. I also have followed a lot of other content on this subject off-board as well. I'm still not completely hitched to the Idea of Christian Nationialism being good for the Race. I understand the Rhetoric being passed, and I understand that it allies with certain goals. We like to see these machinations as completely set in stone, that they are on a single track, but the track is vast and the levers are many, I am confident in that.
>>531396228>So is denying the trinity, my dude.Denying the Trinity is one of the most Christian things a Christian can do. It's pagan heresy.
>>531396381Because you're supposed to be helpless and powerless in mind.
See I hate this fucking dialogue, i find it so boring now. Makes me want to go to sleep. >>531396775>>531396228
>>531395445Christmas is older than Christianity
>>531394145well, at this stage, survival is really the best that can be hoped forthey're not going to wipe us all out anyway, they need someif they eliminated all goyim they wouldn't be special anymore
and they like being special so much they brutally killed one of their own for trying to take it away from them
>>531396228>Do you think you know someone because you've read a book someone wrote about him thousands of years ago? (2 Timothy 3:16) All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,>God's alive now.(Hebrews 4:12) For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart.>That mystical knowledge is knowledge that comes from God. You are listening to God who is within you, rather than second or third hand mystical revelations from other people.(Colossians 2:8) Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry YOU off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ;(1 Timothy 6:20) O Timothy, guard what is laid up in trust with you, turning away from the empty speeches that violate what is holy and from the contradictions of the falsely called “knowledge.Hebrews 13:9-Do not be led astray by various and strange teachings, for it is better for the heart to be strengthened by undeserved kindness than by foods, which do not benefit those occupied with them.1 Corinthians 3:19-For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own cunning.”1 Corinthians 2:13-These things we also speak, not with words taught by human wisdom, but with those taught by the spirit, as we explain spiritual matters with spiritual words
>>531396940Correct
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>>531397151>Paul>Becomes an apostle by having a mystical experience of Jesus Christ>Tells everyone else to not trust their own mystical experiences Bit hypocritical, no?
>>531397347Joseph Smith and Saul of Damascus are the same exact thingboth have "visions" with "witnesses" leaving zero evidence
>>531396564Lets look at the options for the white race>Christianity >Paganism (various flavours)>Buddhism>Atheism>Hinduism (sarr.....)Of these options, which would you say statistically are the most opposed to immigration, view out-groups in a hostile fashion, view transgenderism as a mental disease, think faggots should be banned, etc...? No one is innocent, as I'm sure your retort will include christian NGOs and American evangelicals with pro-Israel allegiance, dancing TikTok queer pastors, etc... . But for the sake of argument and using averages, we actually have data showing which groups lean in particular directions on a political and philosophical level.So when you say something is a "bane" for the race, there is far more evidence showing that whites mass converting to alternate religions would kill us exponentially faster and lead to an even greater degree of cuckening and self hatred. Please provide empirical, statistical, and objective data for your claims.>9 in 10 atheists say openness to people from around the world is essential to US identity, while only 54% of evangelicals agree>All non-Christian faiths outpace Christianity on favourable views toward immigrants by a wide margin~ https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/religion-and-views-on-immigration-and-diversity/
>>531397407if there's no hierarchy order then there's no powerif nobody can fill in the gaps and plot holes for you by directly talking with God then it starts to fall apart
>>531392305kys zigger
>>531397556can you explain why any alternative religion in some organized and "official" sense is even necessary anymore?this isn't an endorsement of atheism per SE, atheism is as much a religion as christianitythis absolute certainty in some unprovable
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!
>>531390270No. We're Jewish.
>>531392575It's just Christ teachings, to reunite with the Father, we have parts of the divine within us that longs to be reunited with God
>>531395268It's the same thing that killed 8/pol/ but 4/pol/ is too big to flood.
>>531397804Christ and god don’t exist you dumb spic
>>531397804the broken god, everything is bits of him and the only way to rebuild God is effectively reemerging and thus destruction of everything>>531397876>>531397876it's funny that I did end up coming back to respond, but nobody is responding to the reply >>531396056just around & about whatever it would have been in some strawman senseI was on 8/pol/ too
>>531394408>I don't see a lot of people talking about what they're doing to achieve GnosisThe seven seals of revelations, as well as the seven heads of the dragon depicted in picrel, refers to the seven planets in Babylonian/Chaldean/Persian etc. astrology which are connected to the chakras. The "ascent" refers to the raising up of the Kundalini serpent, similar to the serpent Moses raised in the wilderness. When Gilgamesh was seeking eternal life he went to Utnapishtim, who had survived the flood on an ark after being instructed to build it by Enki, and asked him for the secret to immortality. Utnapishtim told him about the "plant of immortality" that Gilgamesh retrieved only to have it stolen from him by a serpent. The serpent shed its skin after attaining the plant, symbolizing eternal life through renewal. He became the "Lord of the Good Tree", Ningishzida, the serpent who died and resurrected with the seasons.
>>531390270gnostic trannies be like:>why don't I have a pussy and tits?>it's le demiurge's fault>le demiurge is evil!>cuts off wiener>take that demiurge!
and what really killed the power of 8 and 4/pol/ is subversion of the egregorepartially with christianitypartially with insufferable kekism faggotry
>>531397660>can you explain why any alternative religion in some organized and "official" sense is even necessary anymore?From a utilitarian perspective, boomers are actually right when they say "everything went to shit when people stopped going to church". Church attendance started declining rapidly in the 1960s, which incidentally is when the immigration act of 1965 occurred, female sexual liberation went wild, flower power hippie and pagan religions began reemerging, and all the various developments of the modern world took root. Secularists, which I'm assuming is what you're endorsing, have in fact had a total cultural victory in the west.
>>531396279>muslimsAre one group that needs eradication. Their "prayer" is just presenting their asses for rape. Presenting your ass to a male in the animal world is a sign of submission. With chimps it is to appease the alpha male so that he doesn't kill the beta and at most just rapes him instead. We cannot tolerate that filth in the west. No prophets who get gang-banged by Jam boys. No prophets who tell you that your children are black because of one of their ancestors instead of the wife committing adultery.
4chan is a rightuful Tengriist site.
>>531398090>From a utilitarian perspective, boomers are actually right when they say "everything went to shit when people stopped going to church".impossible to know since kike subversions of everything & anything was happening at the same time, who knows what would have happened without itI don't think a sunsetting of abrahamism and organized religion in general minus the kike subversions of everything including religion would go the same wayin fact I think this idea that loss of abrahamism would automatically lead there is another layer of kike subversion>Secularists, which I'm assuming is what you're endorsingI'm endorsing an end to collectiveism with religion in general and abrahamism specifically >>531396056>>531398130what what, in the zutt
religion should be as private a matter as what one liked to do sexually with his wife once was
>>531398323>I'm endorsing an end to collectiveism with religion in general and abrahamism specificallyThat's literally just secularism, exactly what we've had for decades. You're confusing the separation of church and state (what we have right now), with state sanctioned conversions.
>>531398519>That's literally just secularismno it's not since there are still organized churches with tax exemptions and PACs now, whose members are all throughout government and military openly endorsing their worldviews based wholly in their religious beliefs
>>531397556>But for the sake of argument and using averages, we actually have data showing which groups lean in particular directions on a political and philosophical level.Well you've already granted that you can't take any religious group as a whole since you've accepted that many pro-immigrant colorblind groups are Christian, that it would be necessary to specify a particular splinter of that group, so why not specify Asatru Folk Assembly? It's an explicitly White Nationalist religious group, already active in multiple parts of the country. That's more people than are involved in the only branch of explicitly pro-White Christians, Christian Identity followers, who only exist online - and if you can call that White Identity, since you're talking about people who just think they're the real Jews. AFA is orienting itself around uniquely European religious structures that are widely accepted to be that way, not writing an alternate history. And you're also implicitly coming at this from my perspective in that you don't sincerely believe in any of it, otherwise you wouldn't be examining these religious groups like options on a menu, you'd be fervently defending the one you think is actually true. So the question becomes; you have an obvious pre-made religious structure to get involved in, Asatru Folk Assembly, but you stubbornly insist on trying to overhaul the bigger Christian structures, which are all explicitly anti-racist. Tucker Carlson, probably the biggest voice on this right now, says exactly that. That seems obviously sub-optimal. So why insist on this instead of the easier, fresher and more engaging option?I think the only realistic answers are that you haven't thought this through the whole way, or more likely, you were emotionally committed to Christianity already and are just trying to backfill a way to make it pro-White.
>>531390270Makes more sense than any fucking retard religion that believes in a giant boat full of animals
>>531392635Mandeism is interesting why do they reject Jesus?
>>531391567religion is the root of all evil and problems today.
>>531397556Evangelicals agree 100% if its openness to other christians even if they are nonwhite
>>531397660atheism is the lack of religion, there is no system or structure of beliefs to it. Being unable to understand that means you are below average iq
>>531397407>Bit hypocritical, no?Nope because miracles were controlled by the Apostles. Only a select few were authorized to have mystical experiences. >1 Corinthians 13:8-8Love never fails. But if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away with; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away with.At the time, there was no gospels, letters by Paul, and no Bible printing press. So they had to convince people of Jesus Christ and Jehovah God. That's what miracles were for. They were there to back up the Apostles claim of divine intervention. Once the church grew big enough all miracles ceased. The church would now be based on love and faith, not miracles anymore.The ability to perform miracles was distributed by Paul and the Apostles by laying a hand on them.>Acts 6:6-6They brought them to the apostles, and after praying, they laid their hands on them.>Acts 19:6-6And when Paul laid his hands on them, the holy spirit came upon them, and they began speaking in foreign languages and prophesying.>2 Timothy 1:6-6For this reason I remind you to stir up like a fire the gift of God that is in you through the laying of my hands on you.>Acts 8:17-Then they laid their hands on them, and they began to receive holy spirit.>Acts 8:18,19- 18Now when Simon saw that the spirit was given through the laying on of the hands of the apostles, he offered them money, 19saying: “Give me this authority also, so that anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive holy spirit.”Without the Apostles and Paul to distribute holy spirit anymore there was no way for Christians to receive miraculous abilities anymore. The performance of miracles died with the Apostles. Unless an Apostle lays his hands on someone miracles cannot happen anymore.>Revelation 16:14-They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and they perform signs,All modern day miracles and all miracles after the 1st century are demonic in nature.
>>531398874because the evangelical idea of the rapture requires everyone on earth to know about Jesus to accept or reject him, and rejections are effectively failures of a kind>>531398927atheism is a firm belief there is no godso as unprovable as there being one
>>531399044>>531399044so, no rapture til the N Sentinelese niggers stop killing missionaries long enough to click click derk to them about Jesus, btw
>>531397556>which would you say statistically are the most opposed to immigrationIf you count the liberals out of all those groups, I would say paganism. But you are doing some game theoretic shit with this, and obviously Christianity has the largest capture of Whites, but the foundation is sick and you would need to rehab a lot about it, also P.S. liberals are coming into your space hard right now. >All non-Christian faiths outpace Christianity on favourable views toward immigrants by a wide marginI'm not sure why it would, it's a universalist religion, anyone can be a christian, I'm not sure why a nigger or a Indio would think that they can worship the racial gods of Europe, but i'm told that there is a belief that it's possible. >>531397347Those fucks can be such catty little bitches on YT too BLEGH
>>531390270- There are not Christians in the kingdom of heaven- To be a Christian one must give oneself to Christianity the religion or something such faggot collective authority- in heaven you will only find lambs of the good shepherd, the congregate to him, not each other- to become a lamb of the good shepherd is simple. One must only say yes within to covenant- God sent his only beggoten son to die on the cross for your sins, he died on the cross so that you may be saved.- by accepting the covenant, you take only Christ as your lord and saviour, accepting no other lords, contracts or oaths. None but his.- morality and mine orientation only comes in three forms;1) subjective - the atheist - Lucifer - the angel who decided within himself to create a kingdom within god's - relative internal morality2) collective - the religions and orders of the material world - the mob - one gives oneself over to the authority of the crowd and is swayed by it's authority and seeks security within it, you would be forgiven to see most collectives as infiltrated by Lucifer however - external relative mortality3) objective - Christ - God's only begotten son who was sent to us to die on the cross for our sins, the greatest act of morality possible within the half human, half deity experience - absolute external morality- when one uses hands to measure, there is no peace, that person will argue and live I'm turmoil with every other person for the rest of his life. When one uses an agreed measure there is no peace, that person will find foe in other groupings for the rest of his life. When one uses light as the measure there is eternal peace, he finds no conflict anywhere he goes because his lord is absolute.You bunch of retard niggers arguing over dogma and this and that. Yet you don't even have a coherent trifold model of morality . . . .Lol, lmao even.My lord IS the measure. With him I am in this world but not of it. Free from the effects of sin
>>531394408>I don't see a lot of people talking about what they're doing to achieve GnosisIt's weird that people think there is a practice involved in spiritual enlightnment, the best practice is probably to starve and punish yourself physically, that's my honest opinion on how to reach enlightenment, absorb as little source material as possible, let your conscience be your guide!
>>531397996Yeah that's basically it, they are going to be easily led into the peter thiel apocalyptic transhumanism cult as well.
>>531397966>the broken god, everything is bits of him and the only way to rebuild God is effectively reemerging and thus destruction of everythingThere's a lot of Gnosticim in Borges
>>531390270>>531390748>>531390949>>531391473>>531391961Gnosticism is a abrahamic kike offshoot cult and the elites have been pushing it here for decades because it obfuscates the path for the spiritually curious
>>531399474lol, but clearly left is an intentional funhouse mirror reflection of right>>531399533I'll have to check his stuff out
>>531398662>members are all throughout government and military openly endorsing their worldviews based wholly in their religious beliefsThey don't actually believe it though. They aren't supposed to be doing that anyway. Ofc they are using it as a lever of power alone, laughably so and being purposely retarded about it for reasons that we have both surmised.
>>531392900THIS GUY GETS ITCHRISTIANITY WAS MEANT TO COUNTERBALANCE JEWS BUT THE RETARDED ROMANS ADOPTED IT
>>531398753>some animals were on a boat>this makes god retarded
>>531390836no that's communism.
>>531399800>They don't actually believe it though.at least mostly not, no, but that's irrelevant really since the people they're speaking to and using it as an influence lever on do
>>531398717>easier, fresher and more engaging optionThat's the winning ticket. If work is to be done on Christianity, convince them that there are NEW paganesque rituals that christianity does, and that they are kinda pagan themselves so we don't have to fight them.
>>531398970Aquarius cleans the dirt from the fish put there by the apostles.The apostles were men. Christ was god's only begotten son.The holy trinity is the father, the mother and the child. The sun the moon and the earth. The proton, the electron and the neutron. The central nervous, cardiovascular and digestives systems. The beginning, the middle and the end. The holy trinity represents the subject, the collective and objective faces of all things.In the beginning 1) god created 2) the heavens and 3) the earthFirst fucking lesson.Not the bullshit make believe collective lock in those cunts made it.
>>531399322Paganism does not support segregation. Christianity does. Christianity is also anti homo.
>>531399044>atheism is a firm belief there is no godNo public atheist I'm aware of describes it this way. This is the basic argument of Russell's Teapot - it's not necessary to know for sure that god doesn't exist to not believe in god. The same way you wouldn't believe there's a teapot in orbit between Earth and Mars even if you can't definitely prove it isn't there.This is commonly repeated by theists because it draws a false equivalence between belief and non-belief, making belief seem more tenable.
>>531399849nobody stuck 2 of every land animal on a fucking boathow the hell did they even go around the world getting 2 of every land animal so everything on all the other continents wasn't extinctedit's a fucking historical myth, an extreme word of mouth retelling warping of whatever actually happened
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>>531400059>it's not necessary to know for sure that god doesn't exist to not believe in god."not believing in god" and "believing there is no god" are not the same thing, but I don't pay attention to "public atheists" really so can't argue that pointin a layman sense agnosticism was more the "shug life" "idk" one
>>531400132Suck my dumbness.
reminds me of that Arthur clarke thing from 3001 about the difference between "there is not more than one god" and "there is not less than one god" being heatedly fought over
>>531398717Again, your post is composed almost entirely of rhetoric rather than presenting some objective statistics and data, the literal one thing I asked for. >That's more people than are involved in the only branch of explicitly pro-White ChristiansYou just made a numerical argument, so surely you have some data to back that up? Using mathematical statements requires something to show for it. I already provided a source showing that 54% of evangelicals and 50% of protestants as a whole believe that non-whites are incompatible with western civilization. That's north of 150M white people who are white identitarians, but lets low ball and say even 50M total white Christians believe in white identity. Could you tell me how many Asatru followers there are? I can't find anything showing more than 750 (seven hundred and fifty) total members.>or more likely, you were emotionally committed to Christianity already and are just trying to backfill a way to make it pro-WhiteI'm providing simple links to polling amongst religious practitioners. It rather seems to me that the amount of pro white Christians deeply shocks and upsets you, given your obvious bias towards 100% of everyone you disagree with being inherent race traitors. I don't need to "back fill" anything, as "Christendom" was synonymous with white people for 99.99% of its history from the Eastern Roman Empire up until the 1960's. Kinda weird how the anti white religion failed in exterminating white people up until the exact moment people stopped taking religion seriously at all.
>>531400420That's more of an everyday distinction, not a logical one. Someone who says they're agnostic is just saying>I don't want to fight about not believing in your godwhile someone who says they're atheist is more staunch about it. That's it. De facto there is no difference since both the agnostic and the atheist are living their life as though Allah/Yahweh/Jesus/Brahma/etc aren't real.Beliefs do matter since beliefs drive behavior. Dubya's beliefs about Gog and Magog may have had significant impact on his drive to fight the Iraq War, which had material consequences for millions of people.
>>531400059To determine what an atheist is, one must first determine what god is.God is the source, the singularity, infinite potential. Everything that ever was, is it will be. Material, immaterial or otherwise.To deny god is to deny ones own existence within a coherent system.How could an coherent person exist within an incoherent system?
>>531390748Gnostic Christianity ( which we need to make a habitual linguistic distinction to non christian gnosticism from ) is the Religion of Jesus of Nazirite, Judeo Christianity is the Religion of Paul of Tarsus >>531390836currently yes, historically no. >>531391567Christianity always had socialistic tendencies, the problem is technology enabling turbo feminism >>531391716the empire building aspect of Christianity is proof that it can affirm reality. >>531392183while at least half genetically jewbish the reason why the pharisees wanted christ dead was beacuse he was not legally of their stock, due to matrilinearity not being enforced by hadrian yet.
>>531392332plato's republic predicted the rise of a philosopher king and this is likely the predictive programming that caused the greek apostles to follow christ >>531393085despite what the good book says I don't think paganism and christianity are a contradiction if you absorb the other dieties into the eloheim >>531394408observing doubs is a form of techgnosis >>531397186trees have always been sacred , even in the old testament. cedar temple and garden of eden ect . St Martin of Tours is cool but he chopped down alot of holy trees >>531397687historically false >>531398135shout out buckminster fuller
>>531400681aight well since I don't really want to fight over the distinction, lets just say that the belief there is none is as much a religious belief as believing there is
>>531400741Christ didn't form a religion. He formed a church which is the kingdom of heaven.To become a subject within the kingdom of heaven, one must only take the covenant. Say within, yes, to god's sacrifice, that his only beggoten son died for all sins of this world, yours and mine.Collectives are for faggots and women. All of them.No 'Christian' has ever entered the kingdom of heaven.When the church bells of this world ring, a lamb of the good shepherd does not hear their call, that lamb only hears the call of Christ.
>>531401011I dislike peter and paul and I must give your get credit. I do think if christ had lived he would have formed a religion, he was clearly open to leading, feeding and teaching the masses. Collective faggotry - you mean like military? Within our lifetime we are going to see a huge surge of gnostic christian churches opening across the western world.
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>531400624Well my statement on Christian Identity is just that if you look around for a brick-and-mortar church teaching that, you can't find it. AFA has actual IRL assemblies so it's a step above non-existence. I don't have a chart to post for that if that's what you mean, but I'm pretty sure that mathematically 750 is more than zero. I don't put much stock in your survey because the fact is that the bulk of Christians worldwide are not White and there's nothing in Christianity which would provide a theological foundation for excluding them from Western countries. As such even if we can find Christians who don't support non-Whites immigrating to the West, it's not because of their Christianity that they are opposed to it. Such Christians may privately disagree on the basis of their reason telling them that hostile ethnic groups are dangerous, but those instincts are not supported by Christian theology. That gets us back into needing to hotfix Christianity to be exclusionary towards non-Whites, which requires downplaying the tenets of the religion you're simultaneously promoting, which to me seems obviously counterproductive.The beliefs do matter here. If you're telling people in your pro-Christian push that the Bible is a holy book and Jesus is the best person to ever live, you should expect them to read that book and listen to Jesus's advice, and Jesus doesn't have advice for how to exclude hostile ethnic groups. Why, as part of a push to save Whites, would you push a book that doesn't prescribe ethnic solidarity?I get that the religion has inertia but that's a detriment, not a bonus. Paganism is mostly lost so you can just remake it however you like, Christianity has living institutions that have to be fought. Remember that you're pretending to be clinically distant from it for this conversation; why fight a living institution instead of repurposing a derelict one?
>>531401506This/thread
>>531401506They all look like jews.
>>531400907No it's not. Not believing in something because there's no evidence for it is not the same as believing in something despite of having no evidence for it. If a doctor recommended a procedure, and you asked for evidence that it worked, wouldn't an absence of evidence be enough to not follow through?
>>531401202The sins of the master are the sins of the subject.When these gnostic churches commit a tsnof barbarity and sin, will you reject them?When another 'gnostic' murders a man, will you reject him as your brother and try to wash the blood from your hands?I will never have that issue because my lord commited no sin. I am of him, you are of gnosticism.Yes the military is collective faggotry. Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.A military seeks to exert masculine collective will over the material world and others. But the treasures of Christ are not of this world.A man comes and dominates me, kicks me, spits on me, kills me. Yet he cannot touch my soul, only my flesh. My soul is eternal as it resides with my lord who is eternal.You say gnostic churches will spring forth in this world. what good is it to gain the world and lose your soul?
>>531390270only cucks base their belief on something another person has came up with.
>>531401327So you practice that in the mirror every morning?
>>531401762>but, you see, I WANT to fight over itI reiterate my statement since nothing you said including your metaphor changes it>the belief there is none is as much a religious belief as believing there is
Reminder that not only do gnostics have the whole jewish farthuffing chosen ones bullshit going on with their hylics and pneumatics but theres also some bastardized aspects of jeet religion with the end goal and salvation being more akin to something like breaking free of the dharmic cycle, only that's been twisted to be achieved through knowledge which is where all the fucked up cults spring from. You see, in their interpretation, its particularly greater knowledge of good and evil that you must understand to achive gnosis as as such there are sects that knowingly commit evil acts ostensibly for the sake of "knowledge". As you head down that rabbit hole you'll find in persuit of that knowledge they keep delving deeper and deeper into the occult and things get incresingly insane and degenerate. Hermetic order of the golden dawn, theurgy, jewish kabalah, left hand path tying back into that intentional evil thing, and all that jazz. That whole "the god of this world is not truly god but the malavolent demiurge yaldabaoth" sort of thing is part of the satanist pipeline ending in an total inversion where god is the devil, the serpent in the garden was benevolent helping mankind granting them knowledge and freedom, doing evil is part of the path to salvation, and christ is lucifer. All the religious D&C you see here, paganism, atheism, gnosticism, they use all of them as blunt instruments to one end and that is turning people from god and towards the worship of evil. Even facism itself. These people aren't here arguing in earnest for the merit that might be found in any of those things but to pervert and twist them to their ends using them only as a tool for manipulation to get you on their pipeline. Here's a little tip, if you want to steer clear of O9A child abuse satanic type shit remember that anyone around here who's saying stuff in regards to religion and spirituality that looks like it would be at home on /x/ is not your friend.
>>531401823Which is not an articulation of your beliefs. Who is your lord/master?
>>531402078lady LAWD dem RANGZ
>>531401614Christ wasn't a Christian so their sins are not his.
>>531402149stop fucking up my posts, autocorrect jewsI said LAWDY
>>531402149Thank you for telling me your insecurities.You have my word that I will not use them against you.
>>531402235it was a shitpost nigel, not everything is so serious
>>531401803you would not know christ if your ancestors did not militarize in the crusades
>>531402235Danged jews sucking out insecurities knowledge.
>>531401968Well, if you don't want to fight about it, you're going to have to let me have the last reply then. It's a false equivalence.
>>531402309I don't find my own insecurities to be a serious matter and quite enjoy having them ridiculed or questioned. So I don't really relate to your reaction.Nigel lol, you should see my teef
>>531402540>wants the last word>tells me he wants the last word thus encouraging me to not give him the last wordyou can have it mate but this was retarded
>>531402617>I don't find my own insecurities to be a serious matterneither do I, where they existwhich isn't in a left field rings of powah shitpost
>>531402399But that I would know Christ is granted by god as are all things.I cannot and do not speak for the actions of others. You do though.
>>531402714No need to take my posts so seriously.
>>531392184You would literally be eaten by a bear or raped by a crazed mountain dweller. This is a fucking hellscape. And we need to escape it.
>>531402869touche, Nigel, touche
4chan is a jewish /natosoc/ pro Semitic board. Always has been.
>>531402737Yes, i speak for my wife and children. I speak for my people. Some people even claim i wield the logos
>>531403017I took once worked in graphic design
>>531402149OHHHHHH LAWWWD, U FINNA LAWD DEM MUH FUGGING RANGS NIGGA
>>531402637I'm just telling you, it's a false equivalence.
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>>531403017What about the ones who claim you are a wanker? I'm guessing you have ordained them as sinners and yourself as righteous.
>>531403059fool of a took ;)
>>531401608>is just that if you look around for a brick-and-mortar church teaching that, you can't find itThat would be because white nationalist Christians tend to be non-church goers. I don't think it's a shock that WN Christians believe that their churches have failed them and have been subverted, just as every political, academic, and social body has. Just like a majority of white people dislike immigration, but it is forced upon us by occupied governments regardless. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023120985116>I don't put much stock in your survey because the fact is that the bulk of Christians worldwide are not WhiteThen you fail to comprehend statistics because the data presented was specifically non-hispanic white Christians in the US being polled. As a WN, this should be pleasant good news to you, but you obviously are upset at these facts that go against your worldview. >Such Christians may privately disagree on the basis of their reason telling them that hostile ethnic groups are dangerous, but those instincts are not supported by Christian theologyActions speak louder than words do. You're the one who's trying to fix what isn't broken by playing analytical psychology and twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to explain how hundreds of millions of white Christians are heretics and no true Scotsmen. Being race loyal should be good enough for you, but you apparently place more stock in theology than views on biological race, exactly what you accuse others of doing.>But Jesus sai- Derailing into theological arguments. We're talking about religious utility. >Remember that you're pretending to be clinically distant from it for this conversation; why fight a living institution instead of repurposing a derelict one?I'll repeat that I'm providing simple data and statistics. I'm not distancing myself from anything
>>531390270Modern American Christianity is just disguised Judaism. And not so cleverly disguised.You need only the Evangelical's 'ministry' about 'Jesus' to realize they've got no fucking clue who Jesus was and are just using His name to promote anti-Christian values and hand the country over to Zionism.
>>531396279So you would just kill the ones who don’t do what you say.I specifically requested you take care to not sound like a communist Jew. Why would you do this to us?You still have not told me what detrimental effect Christian’s would have in a world with no Jews.
>>531396056This sounds like a list of things you hope will happen. You realize even if America is 100% white, it’s still majority Christian?What exactly is so terrible you think will happen with them in charge and no Jews or browns?
>>531398130This is an alarmingly Jewish post.
>>531403795you skipped this post >>531396056weird>Why would you do this to us?do what to whomst, I can't "sound" like anything in a soundless text post, you're hearing that in your own head>You still have not told me don't recall you asking
>>531403973>This sounds like a list of things you hope will happen.I already outright said eliminating the Jews was impossible, making this an entirely hypothetical discussion
>>531391716At birth, Krom gives men the strength to kill. What more do you need?
>>531393827Gnosticism is older than Kaballah, a silly esoteric tradition that was created by medieval spanish jews.
>>531404089steel, the only thing you can trust
>>5313902704chan isn't one personthe shills are all jewish hindu or gaytheistsreal anons just read a lot. they don't invalidate the information, because its just storytelling, there's no need to invalidate dr seuss, its information, the spiritual ideas are interesting, but they aren't religious.
>>531404020>I can't "sound" like anything in a soundless text postFine, seem. You are now being overtly pedantic, you are acting like you are going for a rhetorical "win" rather than having a discussion or settling with Anon. >>531404017They love sodomy and talking about sodomy, I'd even think he was jewish without the anti-muslim shit dropped in there.
>>531390270I would love to see Christianity reform and flourish, but right now, it's a cuck religion.The men are weak simps who worship vagina and kikes.I can not endorse it.I still like old churches and cathedrals.the new ones are usually ugly though
>>531404085>I already outright said eliminating the Jews was impossibleNOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE
