>America gets less than 2% of our oil from the strait of Hormuz Why does this simple fact infuriate europoors and Muslims so much?
Europe's second century of humiliation looking nice so far
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>>532471553>yes, we fucked over our real best allies for our kike overlords and we'll call them Muslim dick suckers if they don't thank us for it
What difference does it make? If US companies can sell it for $10, then they'll take $10. You can beg them to sell it to you for $5, though. Good luck.
>>532471553Why are the oil prices going up across the US then?
>>532471553Just a little bit jelly that we import a microscopic bit more than you from there. But at least we can get our oil out, all we need to do is call our pals the Mullahs
>>532471553It's not our leaders sperging out over it on Xitter every day.Praise be to Allah.
>>532471553Why are americans like this?
>>532471814>You can use laws to limit oil exports to other countries Why does europoors not understand this
When your currency is the world reserve crises in globally traded commodities always come back home.Have you looked at a gas pump recently?
>>532471553It doesn't. What you fail to understand, is that "having oil anyway" doesn't substantially make your situation better. 1. The oil price is global, you don't have a separate one2. Supply chains you depend on run on oil from the strait3. Your entire currency is backed by oil trade in the region."B-but we have our own oil" is a brainlet cope. You're at least a bit smarter than the orange retard, right?Go figure.>Inb4 "you're seething"Nobody is seething or infuriated. You just don't seem to gradp that this is bad for you too, possibly to a greater degree. At least our respective currencies are not existentially threatened.
>>532471553Because they are brown pedophiles that defend pedophiles of the brown variety.
>the Strait is open>the Strait is open except for people shooting at the ships>we need help opening the Strait >actually we'll open the Strait ourselves >if you don't open the Strait there's gonna be trouble >w-w-we didn't need the Strait anyway KWAB
>>532471973You are literally run by pedophiles of all colors.
>>532471553They're losing their meager europoor retirement funds and you're laughing?
>>532471973???
>>532471553Why the fuck are you deepthroating jews, faggot?
>>532471553>>532468297
>>532471553So why is the Orange nigger seething so much about it?Just leave it be then
>>532472109Zoom out, poorfag
>>532471553And we get most of ours from Norway.What type of rent-free psychosis is it that causes the trashiest among amerimutts to assume that Europeans are hiding in every shadow and make up wild fantasies involving them?
>>532471866You think the US and its profitariat is going to close the international market?
>you know hormuz doesn't affect me>also if you don't open it i'll commit war crimes>i'm fine paying $5 a gallon anywayAt this point I'm convinced miggers drag the national IQ down further than niggers
>>532471553Because it's going to turn all of Europe against the US and Israel. This war is easily identified as something the US started and now its fucking the entirety of Europe and will force Europe back onto Russian fuel. Israel's fuck fuck games in that stupid sandpit and its third temple dreams just enraged 80% of the first world and they have nothing to show from it. I hope Iran collapses the Suez canal with missiles lmao lol
>>532471553we live in EU minds rent free
>>532472712You guys constantly bitch about us as well thoughever
>>532471553WHITE POWERRRRRRRRRRR
>>532472712Maybe don't go into a thread made by some garbagemutt to bitch and moan about the EuroGODS living rent free in his head to post obsessive image about Europeans while claiming that Europeans can't stop thinking about you.
>>532471553Yeah, the US government is well known for enforcing price caps, no way our oil companies would profit on our misery
>>532471866lots of things in life you can dobut you dont. so
>>532471726That's too White to be an American
>>532471553And? Scarcity of one blend increases price of all others.Retard.
My father underwent surgery for free and is housed in a high quality ospedale while he recovers.My penis is not mutilated
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>>532471553So will all the other countries when they will just outbid you for the oil that would have been going your way unless you match them.
>>532471553Why is Trump malding so much about the Hormussy then?
>>532471553Because they're frightened at the reality their kaaaangs blessed them with; being eaten alive by the shitskin hordes as their women are raped to death when the pumps run dry.
>>532471866You're going to nationalize your oil?America is going to nationalize its oil companies?Lol.
Reminder that we own the mutts as our vassal as we are on the receiving end of the one-way NATO deal where they provide us complete protection for free while we live our lavish lives with free healthcare and education and vacations and there's nothing a migger can do about it except cry and shit themselves while barking about leaving NATO but never ever actually doing it.
>>532473518>we don't care about the strait, it will dilate naturally, go get your own oilOne week later...>BLOODY BASTARD OPEN THE HORMUSSY NOW I WILL FUCK YOUR MOTHER BLOODY BASTARD BENCHOD Why is he like this kek
>oh fuck we fucked our asian allies oil supply>yuroop heeeelp open the strait you dont even use heeeeeelppwe arent helping trump save face KEK
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>>532472434It's not a spontaneous psychosis and it will get much worse. We live in societies that are fundamentally not equipped to handle the narrative shaping/reflexive control capabilities those that wish to destabilize us have now in their hands. LLMs allow this at a scale that is fucking absurd. X/Twitter is to 30% bots and a state actor (or even below that) can easily flood the narrative around certain topics so that I'd bet real humans are the minority in those discussions.We're moving beyond truth as a concept in public discourse. Soon it will no longer matter, because you simply cannot discern it from the injected talking points. Think about how all this might further influence the real world and where we'll probably be in a few decades. We're so fucked.
>>532472515>>also if you don't open it i'll commit war crimesSend the international police then.
>>53247406160% of your population is muzshits. Even if you don't count them as part of the populous. Europe is effectively a muslim state.
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>>532471553how much oils does Europe get from Hormus
>>532471553That's a lie. Also, the oil is not the concern.It's the amonia and fertilizer.1/3 of the world gets its fertilizer through the Strait.
>>532471644retard russians just make the hundreds of huge oil and gas pipelines directly to china already, so china can send the oil and gas and agricultural products on chinese train tracks and then onto chinese cargo ships to the world,so strait of hormuz or middle east for that matter would never matter ever againwhat the fuck is taking so longshould have been built 30 years ago
>>532471553Amerimutts are really the most retarded lowest breed of propagandized goycattle in the world, I have tried for months to gaslight myself to believe it was just bots trying to ragebait me but it wasn't the case, they are just fucking braindead and there's no salvation for them, the only thing foreigners can do is pray that false flag attack actually happens and their retarded castrated and uncultured civilization wakes up at least the littlest spasm of self awareness and consciousness
>>532474388>It's the amonia and fertilizer.>1/3 of the world gets its fertilizer through the Strait.russia is the source of fertilizerwhy doesnt russia just have huge traintracks to it with china to deliver the fertilizer to the world already?nothing is stopping them in fact nothing is stopping russia and china from becoming futuristic hyper alliance where you merge the biggest resource on planet and biggest production of planetand still they dont do it.they dont do anything with each other.they just troll each other.makes me frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrustrated
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>>532471553So why did gas prices double?
>>532475091Honestly I would love to live in a country with those demographics. In the US gen A is barely even 10% white
>>532471553Well, you have essentially declared war on Europe. We won't win it, our rulers are too retarded, our people have grown too weak. But the fact that you celebrate it tells us everything we need to know about you.Btw, you won't win it, either. The shitskins and chinks will. But as long as we get got, right? As long as you get to spite us, its all good.
>>532475274That’s hyperbole that’s easily disproven with a simple search online.
>>532475430Thanks for correcting the record
>>532475521It’s 48% White which isn’t much less than 57%.
>>532472783Because you're nothing more than welfare babies. You're basically niggers with a funny accent.
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>>532475620lol Gen Z wasn't even 25 percent white you are so full of shit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Generation_AlphaKeep in mind this doesn't even include the 40 million undocumented illegal immigrants
>>532471553Umm but it's your pres who's constantly kvetching about the Strait, not us. You feeling alright there, fella?
>>532475873Gen Z is 50% White which isn’t much less than 57%.
>>532471553Does the U.S need the oil?All you need to ask yourself, is Trump sperging out about it every day?Yes? Then you need it.
>>532471866>we can make oil permanently expensive and a luxury for ourselves what will you do then huh?
>only 2%So why do you care that its open or closed?
We spend 5% of our budget on petrol. I don't give a shit about the price.We have other means of transport unlike America. 1 USD/barrel Hormuz toll is totally worth it for me if it's spent on rockets toward Israel.
>>532471866Tell me you don't understand economics without telling me
>>532471778because they can sell it, and it's more profitable to sell than to have it affordable in country.Same why western europe has to pay for high energy prices because green germoney doesn't have any power in winter.>>532476571>>532471866You know, most of europe won't actually feel much of this, except that oil price increase increases price of everything.Unironically it will be similar to the US, though oil might be a bit more expensive here already, we don't need to drive that far in general (for transport etc. so good price impact).The one big difference is that we didn't cause it, that was Israel/america.
>>532476686Because the US isn't a communist centrally planned country their oil prices reflect the ones on the free market. They could have zero oil needs but the price is controlled by the market not actual reality of it.
>>532471778because they're cartels that can get away with ityou don't seriously think gasoline prices has anything to do with desert wars do you?
>Trump need the strait open or he loses the midterms Why does this simple fact infuriate americans so much?Let me explain to you how resource scarcity works, retard: excess global demand rises prices GLOBALLY. More people, especially asians, are willing to pay more for it. It doesn't matter if you import oil from the Gulf or not.
>>532475797>>532475796>Faggotry and rape thoughts Are you muslim)indian/jewish per chance?
>>532471553>Why does this simple fact infuriate europoors and Muslims so much?Nigher, you are entertainment, just like the mongol rape babies from the east.
>>532471553>>America gets less than 2% of our oil from the strait of Hormuz It doesn't matter, you'll pay your oil based on international rates, and so will we. Sadly a lot of you are genuinely too retarded to understand that, just like when you thought that tariffs wouldn't result in a price increase.
>>532476965anon you can't use facts and logic to convince miggers of anything. they operate purely on raw emotion and vibes. they're like a radio tuned to zognald and zognald alone. they probably can't make out what we're written here now
>>532471553why do miggers pretend to not understand what a global commodity market is
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>>532476965I hope it gets to $10 a gallonThe migger seethe and cope would be so delicious it would be worth starving for
>Iran claims to have complete authority over Whore Moose>Is strangling the world oil supply as leverage >Open to everyone but US and Israel>China gets through >India and Pakistan get through >+12 already have their tankers passing through in some degree >More countries are getting their oil through >Pushes oil down, reduces leverage >This pattern continues oil throughput in the strait goes back to normal>Iranians are willingly giving away their ONLY leverage as the days go by>Browns still think Iran is winning
>>532476965Another issue: if the countries in the Gulf cannot export the ONLY thing they can produce, America's protection becomes an issue. And another one: Trump eased sanctions on Iran to help cope with higher oil prices. Iran will make billions off this and repair its finances and military infrastructure if nothing changes. Same as Russia. It doesn't matter if Trump keeps repeating the lie that the US "doesn't need Hormuz anyway" to delude his 90 IQ supporters into voting for the Republican party again: the United States needs the Strait to reopen. If it didn't, Trump wouldn't go batshit insane on Truth Social.
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>>532473225Whatever you say, brownie poop eating pajeet. I wish Pakistan would drop every nuclear warhead on India
Part of americas marketing is guaranteeing free navigationIt is clear that it cant open straits. Hormuz isnt the only one: there is bab al madeb, mallaca, taiwan etcThis is an important loss of prestige.
>>532477297>who cares about the petrodollar, the only reason we can keep our money from being zimbabwe monopoly money? We don't need it we don't need the petrodollar MAGA
>>532471866>heh the us can just nationalize its oil companiesthis is some advanced migger retardation
>>532471553tell that to your president, he's desperate enough for the strait to open to praise allah
>>532474062It's been going on way longer than LLMs, unironically Marvel films are part of this. Mutts (and westerners in general) are encouraged to have absolute black and white morality and discouraged from having discourse with the other side, so they're more likely to follow American propaganda and ignore foreign news as they're subhumans. Furthermore, brand loyalty keeps them from criticizing their own side. Think about it with this angle and things make a lot of sense now.
>>532474618Lol if you think 4chan is retarded spend a few hours on tiktok, preferably news or a field you have knowledge in
>>532471553Yeah surely Exxonmobil and Chevron will sell us cheap oil separately from the global market cuz they pump oil here too
>>532471553Because it's stupid. The oil market is global. Reduction in supply to the market means an increase in price at a decreased volume. It's basic macroeconomics. Going HURR DURR THERE JETHRO WE DUN GET OUR DAGGONE OYEL FERM NO AYRABS makes people mad because it signals a total and complete lack of comprehension how this affects not only everyone else in the world (they've given up on trying to get us to care about this) but our fucking selves as well.
>>532477360I'll be fair to the US and say that with missiles and drones being a thing it's probably impossible for any naval power to guarantee free navigation past a strait. You need to physically occupy the territory to a great depth to make a water passage safe.
>>532477860>You need to physically occupy the territory to a great depth to make a water passage safe.OR... wait for it... you could engage in fucking DIPLOMACY instead of throwing orange tantrums about why reality won't spontaneously rearrange itself around your fucking fee-fees
>>532471553global market retard
>>532474156have you ever left your home town and seen the outside world with your own eyes?
>>532471866>The US will voluntarily limit itself to $1.50 gas at home, when they could get $1000 abroadHOLY FUCK
>>532474156>populous*populacePopulous is an adjective. Populace is a noun.
>>532477648Yes, that's true to a degree, it's been going on way longer. The term I used -- 'reflexive control' -- for example is a Soviet one after all. It's not just yanks/Westerners either. USSR/Soviet Union were huge pioneers back in the Cold War. But what arose in the wake of 9/11 and is also core to modern Russian efforts (the Chinese lag behind due to cultural reasons), is the relationship of "propaganda" to truth. This new school doesn't seek to persuade you that their view is correct, instead it seeks to bombard you with so many conflicting "truths" that you eventually give up trying to cut through the bullshit. And LLMs will supercharge this strategy to a terrible degree.Look into Vladislav Surkov if you don't know that name already.
>>532471553Explain why US gas prices are up 50%
>>532477297Iran is making sure the world doesnt devolve into full blown global chaos to preserve the moral high ground as rational actorsyou absolutely shit eating retardthis is why no one else on the planet wants any part of this psychosis
>>532477444>Muh Petrodollar If you think it's going anywhere, even if 100% of the oil passing through the strait is non-dollar transactions, the Petrodollar would still dominate.The Yuan is a non-issue, there's more to being a reserve currency than being used in oil transactions. You're too brown to understand.
>>532477270Oh no, this looks bad. This is the sort of crisis that can bring political changes. Last century around this time an economic happening brought a painter to power. What will we do without our circumcised cock sucking politicians?!? Anyway, i hope it gets really bad and remember faggots like you did this. Meanwhile my land has always produced enough food for my family with just organic fertilizer. Good luck, miggers.
>>532478808>The Yuan is a non-issue, there's more to being a reserve currency than being used in oil transactions.Like what? Maybe being stable? Having responsible governance? Competent leadership at the central bank? What the FUCK do you think is happening right now?
>>532478566Also, there are fundamental differences in post-9/11 US narrative shaping and modern Russian efforts -- but now Trump has brought that Russian style to the Western world, while previously the tactics used under Obama (and others) would need a whole other few posts to talk about. But they were closer to Soviet style but more sophisticated. (Think the post-9/11 jingoistic fury where they whipped the populace into accepting surveillance and forever wars)
>>532471553What part of oil is a global commodity don't you get, nigger? The global price influences the local price because our companies sell to the highest bidder, not just Americans. The only way to get around that would be to nationalize all the private oil companies and force them not to sell any oil outside of the country, in which case, they'd replace all the petroleum engineers with the same kind of 70 IQ sheboons that work at the DMV and all that infrastructure would crumble and we still wouldn't have any oil.
>>532478566Right, but generating tons of fake headlines is relatively easy compared to brainwashing multiple generations to blindly follow news anchors and call anyone with a different opinion a bot or shill. We used to make fun of chris-chan for dismissing criticism, not it's the expected behavior when someone hurts your safe space
>We don't need the Strait>But also OPEN THE STRAIT RIGHT NOW GODDAMNIT OR WE'RE COMMITTING A WAR CRIME
>>532479335I doubt Trump is the catalyst, he's just a symptom For all the belly thumping republicans do, they like to censor news and viewpoints and suck fed dick as much as dems do. I suspect even which party wins is carefully selected for maximal indoctrination
>>532478582It's called, the US is run by kike gyspies and their pighawk white-scum oil baron cohorts who parasite off the common man because muh survival of the fittert and/or mug chosen by God who wants us to be leeches
>>532471553Why is its closure such a big deal then? DJT just lashed out yet again this morning over it. Dude lost his shit lmao.
>cuts off European oil>what, you can't send a few planes down there?Well no, they don't have any plane fuel after you cut if off
>>532479921REPEAT AFTER ME>the strait is open>even if it was closed we don't need it>no missiles have fallen on israel>if they did they fell in the sea>we lost no crew rescuing that pilot>we didnt need those planes anyways>iran's ADN is destroyed>even if they shot down an f-35 it doesn't matter
>>532471866Miggers actually believe that their oil billionaires are going to give up their gigaprofits and subsidize fuel for your cuck trucks out of their own pockets?!Also, wouldnt that be SOCIALISM?
>>532480161the "zionisation" of America is complete in totality from the leadership, to the press
>>532479430Yes, I got too caught up in describing the current state and left out the US' historical approach (>>532479335).But the problem is that blindly following new anchors has a ceiling, it still references reality. But if you flood the information space with all those conflicting narratives you arrive at a point where you get a pure simulacrum -- where the relationship between reality and our public discourse is severed. (Simulacra and Simulation, Baudrillard) That's why I see LLM/generative AI enabled narrative control as such a threat, because I fear it will fundamentally erode truth as a concept.>>532479638Yes, of course, I agree. He's only a symptom. If you haven't built a dam, there will be flooding sooner or later. It's not the rainfall's fault.
>>532476962You're an actual fucking retard
>>532477446I'm actually laughing out loud at thisWhen you mig so hard you accidentally full socialism
>>532476850>>532476962Yes partially correct but what makes you think when oil becomes scarce in rest of the world, these same hands won't artificially create the same scarcity and force its consequences onto the United States as well? Agenda 2030 aims for this to happen globally and sees a dethroned United States. Do you not worry?
>>532471553>>532475796Why are you jews so obsessed with shit and cocks Its fuckin weird man
>>532480549I think the ceiling is infinitely high as long as you present it in the right way and consistent with previous propaganda. Americans believe the Chinese eat dogs and sewer oil, it's not a far stretch to push that they're building concentration camps and mass burning babies. It doesn't matter how outlandish the claim is cause nobody bothers to check it. Ffs, those "alien" videos, if you knew anything about cameras you'd understand the reporting was misleading yet people ate it up. The narrative on anything military in Asia is completely detached from reality alreadyMaybe LLMs help, but this narrative reframing and the lack of criticism are doing the brunt of the job. If nobody verifies you, you can post whatever image and caption you want and the goy will swallow.I'm still not sure about the differences between the US/SR methods, if you have some reading material i'll take it.
>>532471553Cool. Where do you get all your other shit and how does it get there? I'll let you just mull that over with your two brain cells for a while. See if you can figure out the problem here.Never mind. You'll find out soon enough.
>>532471553Why has the price of petrol/gasoline increased by more in the US than it had in Europe?
>>532471866>The US can nationalise it's oil companies and/or ban exports This 100% will never happen
>>532472712> nearly start WW III> "lol Europe is mad"Brainless.
>>532481644cause we have the FREE MARKET instead of COMMUNIST PRICE FIXING like the yuropoors do
The USA's debt is 39 TRILLION. Previously you got away with rhat because you had o e of the most respected military forces in the world.Now rhat you've proven yourselves to be utterly innnefective in modern warfare, the question is how will tou continue to get away with it? Hmm?
>>532481408>I think the ceiling is infinitely high as long as you present it in the right way and consistent with previous propaganda. Americans believe the Chinese eat dogs and sewer oil, it's not a far stretch to push that they're building concentration camps and mass burning babies. It doesn't matter how outlandish the claim is cause nobody bothers to check it. Maybe you're right. Anyone making claims such as me and claiming certainty is a fraud. I'm just worried about the impact this new technology might have. We can also still change all of this with regulations and safeguards, of course.I only have links handy to texts on Russian narrative ops (because that's the side I've been studying more lately):https://www.osw.waw.pl/en/publikacje/osw-studies/2016-06-27/russias-armed-forces-information-war-front-strategic-documentshttps://www.libertas-institut.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/EUFAJ-Special-NemtsovReport-150521.pdfhttps://css.ethz.ch/content/dam/ethz/special-interest/gess/cis/center-for-securities-studies/resources/docs/NDC%20fm_9.pdfOf course, as always, keep the bias of the author in mind.But I remember this documentary that focuses on US disinformation, also recommend:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr7T07WfIhM
>>532482774thanks anon, will give that a watch
>>532483252Oh, I forgot to answer:The difference between the approaches is:- Soviet/US propaganda's goal was to convince you to believe a certain narrative as truth. Of course, in the Soviet Union things were so shit that it was a laughable effort. US propaganda (esp. after 9/11) is/was more sophisticated and way better at achieving that goal.- Russian propaganda's goal is to make you mistrust any narrative is true. In that sense it's "post-modern".
>>532486203There is a clear difference between Soviet and modern Russian (and now, also US...) propaganda. If you research Vladislav Surkov -- the architect of this method in modern Russia -- you will quickly understand the goals and effects. It's insidious, maybe more so than traditional propaganda.
