He started from scratch with a two-year technical degree in chemistry.Now he's 65 and he makes €11,000 a month (132k) as a director managing 270 people.He had everything given to him yet he calls me a failure because I can't find a job with my CS degree.
>>532516065It's Boomer privelege.
Yes that is the Boomer way: Sell your child's future for profit and then blame them for it.
>>532516065Meanwhile I'm jobless with a STEM degree posting on 4chan. And all jobs are taken up by women or demand massive skill list.Western eurocucks have life on easy mode.
>>532516065Simply remind your father that his same role pays $400k a year in America, and his salary is what an American would be making 2 years out of college. Make sure he understands that those same salaries tax 50% less than France, so he really understands how fucked your shit hole is.
>>532516065I went to a community college tech school for automation to avoid the overpriced private one in my town. Turns out the professor was a boomer from said overpriced tech school. Arrogant as fuck, just made us google everything, and acted like he was a hot shit scientist even though he only had a fucking two year degree. Boomers had easier lives that you can possibly imagine and they all act like dilbert man about it.
>>532516065>CS degreeDo you really have a CS degree? In what specialty?>>532516408>his same role pays $400k a year in AmericaTrue. In America a school janitor makes what Latvian PhD here makes with a degree from Riga Technical University.
>>532516065Uh, I make that as a systems anslyst working from home.
>>532516448It's getting worse as more Pajeet scum move into the US, but I never realized quite how fucked the EU is until I moved there for my ex and my job paid 25% of what I made back home, and taxed twice as hard.
>>532516481>systems analystWhat university program did you graduate?What about nepotism?What did your parents do? Did they pull you into this field or no?WHat were your mentors growing up? Did you decide it on your own or you had an uncle like Epstein that told you what is the future gonna need for?
>>532516528>taxed twice as hard.Yes.. Taxes are huge.We're not allowed to make 15,000 euros a year simply as a pocket change. If you earn like 1000 euros online by doing something you are harassed by tax agency at some point.In the UK few years ago I read there is no taxation up to 9k gbp income or something.
>>532516408Jewish mindset and exaggerated. Maybe twice that salary while living in a hell on earth US city with a worse quality of life in every single regard. Now KYS
>>532516065>Laboratory technician Such an entry level job doesn't exist anymore. You would be expected to work as an unpaid intern for 6+ months for a small possibility of a job later. But almost certainly they would get rid of you and get yet another eager graduate in working for nothing. When I was applying for physics "graduate" jobs 10 years ago all expected a minimum of 3 years experience in industry and only paid £30k/year. God only knows how bad it is now for zoomers in 2026. The only way to get into these jobs is to have a family member or friend in on the inside.
I remember exaggerating about how some boomer worker getting a job at a factory out of high school, getting promoted to manager there, got married in early 20s, had two kids, a full house, two kids, workered there over 40 years with great pension etc.And someone said wtf you talking about? Thats literally my dad!
>>532516792*two cars. But the details don't matter. You get what i mean.
>>532516408Using USA as a global benchmark is retarded.
>>532516678>hell on earth US city>worse quality of life in every single regardExplain? Why is the entire world flocking to the US then?>>532516774>You would be expected to work as an unpaid intern for 6+ months for a small possibility of a job later>minimum of 3 years experience in industryTrue. I'm jobless because I have no experience and no nepotism yet I have a STEM degree and could basically do anything that doesn't involve lots of calculus or geometry.
>>532516924>Explain? Why is the entire world flocking to the US then?Because when people think of America they still think of America from the movies in the 80s. That country is dead. The same way when foreigners think of Britain they don't think of downtown islamabad. I've been to 50+ countries and the US is far worse than anything in western Europe.
>>532516432Oh, and he openly supported common core. Fucking boomer vampires absolutely burning the village down with a fat paycheck to boot.
>>532516924You need calc to do programs thats how they work. That's how you make games. Its stats and points on graphs.
>>532516924>has STEM degree>gets hung up on baby mathbro, i think i no why ur jobless
>>532517033The ceiling is high, but the floor is a pit
>>532517198I would never get a job without at least calc 2 and stats 1, a 4 year degree and 2 years of being a bitch in a lab. This is why people don't find jobs. You need to out compete the top 70 percent in your field. There are more degrees than job openings. Some jobs only happen once in like 40 years because of hiring cycles and long term employees.
>>532517033>America from the movies in the 80sI know it's brown as fuck and hospitals are run by blacks but if you are in white-only upper classes or jewish-only circles like Epstein was, life is great in the US. >>532517198Not a single job ad i've looked at demanded math knowledge.Im bad at math because i didn't learn in school but only started learning math in uni.i had to learn fraction multiplication, division from scratch..anyways i learned basics of definite, indefinite integrals, some differential equations, matrices.How much did you learn in cc tech school for automation?what did you learn? repetitively clicking on GUIs to set up automation algorithms?
>>532516774>God only knows how bad it is now for zoomers in 2026pretty shite
>>532516408all the tax payers money goes for the muslims having 5 children
>>532516065That pathway, is impossible in 2026.
>>532517171>calc to do programsWhat programs?I mostly talk about electrical, telecom, networking stuff here, which is my field. I'm not a chemist researcher.>>532517171>stats and points on graphsyeah i know what is python matplotlib r studio, excel graphs, what else?
>>532516432OMG thank you - I have been looking for that meme for ages!
>>532517411My first year was directly shared with the electrical engineering dept. Then it transferred to PLCs, HMIs, automation stuff for the last. I did a lot of circuit analysis and design. Geometry and calc are high school shit. How the fuck do you have a degree and get stuck on that?
>>532517527https://archive.org/details/the_dilbert_hole/04.pngSome dude on rotten.com was beefing with dilbert man and made some funny comics. Apparently dilbert man tried to sue him over it.
>>532517411Bro if you want to program at a high level you need higher level skills. Use ChatGPT to learn math. It will take you a week. Give it 12 hours week day and I promise it will change how you think. I hated math until I actually got to learn it on my own time and in a way that actually told me info and gave immediate feedback back on my work. AI is over hyped but it really is good enough to instruct anyone. I am building a perlin noise field generator in Rust so I can make some cool art. Its not hard to program anymore. That's why the jeets can take the jobs they don't need to actually try after getting a 4 year degree and making some shit projects. You need more to actually move the needle now.
>>532517597>did a lot of circuit analysis and designSo you know what is thevenin and norton theorem then?I had a course of basic circuit theory as well (see picrel - can you understand what's there?). I was not very good at it.Anyways - all of that can be simulated in multisim, pspice, etc.Why the fuck we need to draw and calculate this shit by hand when there are productivity tools that replace things just like the invention of calculator?
>>532516065>Now he's 65 and he makes €11,000 a month (132k) as a director managing 270 peopleI make more than this managing 0 people with a CS degree
>CS degreeThere’s your problem. You have a degree for introverts which we intentionally phase out with AI and immigration.The whole idea of economics is to kick out introverts from society. We hate you. You’re weird and bitter.
>>532517526My point is that if you don't know how calculus works, at least you can memorize formulas. But you might need to innovate to solve a novel problem or create something that actually works for your situation. By knowing higher level math you can now model physics, chemistry, engineering, accounting, etc
>>532516065He's literally a tenured government worker.Yes. If you can get into government work and grind thru the years you eventually end up in a good position.By the way I made $13500 a month after taxes as an IT contractor for the U.S. government before I was 35.
>>532517816Well if I ran you over with a car you might understand
>>532516065I make 11k a month in big tech without a CS degree. Skill issue.
>>532516065you just dozed both of you, retard
>>532516065>be OPs alleged father>be 65>still has to work to buy OP tendiesWhat is OP trying to say
>>532517700>Use ChatGPT to learn mathI use Claude for everything tech-related. And gemini in aistudio for analyzing long context stuff. Chatgpt is crap nowadays and very limited. I do not pay for any of them.>>532517853>if you don't know how calculus worksI know how calculus works. I am not retarded.>need to innovate to solve a novel problemTo get to that point in life you'd need to get into a job that has such thing in the first place - the problem. I have no job experience so I have no idea what particular jobs demand.>>532517938>big techaccenture? they push for fags here, btw
>65 making €132k and this is goodThe europoor meme truly is real. I was making £100k at 23 living in London and that was nearly 20’years ago.
>>532518284>making £100k at 23 living in London in 2005What nepotism and connections got you in that place?
Millennial staff engineer here.Shit's fucked for at least another year. I have been pushing for hiring junior engineers because we're all getting old as fuck in my field and in 10 to 15 years, we'll all be retired. I have been getting pushback because "AI will fix it".My one hope is that investors are finally starting to wisen up to the fact that all of this LLM shit is 100 times more expensive than what it's being sold for. And with the energy costs going up, it's only going to get worse. I am hoping that we'll start hiring again in one year.Just hang in there, bros. My one piece of advice is to contribute to random ass open source projects that you like. It keeps your skills fresh and gives you something to talk about during interviews.
>>532516774Unironically why I work in retail. Whats funny is minimum wage has gone up so there's really not much difference between my job and the science pay, allthough I am worse off than coworkers who didn't go to uni due to less time working and student loans. That said there are a decent amount of us underemployed. Should have just became a tradie.
>>532518406Grad job out of uni. First year in Australia than top candidates in their grad class got to pick where they went in preference order. Everyone wants New York but London at least back then was second pick. I was on £40k salary and that year made £60k bonus. Was 2007 right before subprime. My earnings then went backwards next two years before going up as I was promoted.
>>532516065>work for 40 years>"hE hAd EvERYThiNg given TO him"
>>532516065You’re a failure because you’re a waffle
>>532518478we dont want your boring ass job unc, kys Pierre Ngubu Hamzaoui
>>532518625>Grad job out of uni>top candidates in their grad class got to pick where they wentI assume uni is expensive and paid only in AU and you already came from upper classes and your parents vouched for you in many places and mentored you to get in particular fields. Is that true?It was not solely your own decision to go into that field?I assume financial sector?
>>532518777>work for 40 yearsYeah this sounds like something my dad would say. He "worked" when and as he pleased, and I watched him take advantage of desperate people that he paid far below minimum wage by claiming them as "independent subcontractors" on tax documents even though they never had any of the rights as such. I watched him lie to the IRS, assist in insurance fraud, and accuse his workers of theft with no evidence. But the worst part of all of this is that he convinced he worked honestly for all his money and has never lied to anyone about anything.
>>532518777You forgot the part where he started his career with only 2 years of college. If that happened today, it would be much, much more than being given everything.
>>532516065If your father was based they would have killed him so be glad.
>>532516065The system is nice to you if you are gay.
>>532516065>he's 65 and he makes €11,000 a month (132k) as a director managing 270 people.Your dad gets paid fuck all, I know electricians which make double what he makes and don't have to manage anyone. Shit I make 110k and do sweet fuck all.
>>532517816considering this and the other threadyou are part of a new introverts vs extroverts psyop aren't you?how patheticfrankly you fuckers have barely a decade before ropes and lamposts
>>532518777kek, we've all seen boomer "work ethic". It's swanning about an office treating it like a fucking social club. Existing in a building isn't work. Considering they were getting brain surgeon bucks to do it too nobody gives a shit how long they farted in a box for.
>>532518917>uni expensiveMy course was $5,000 (€3k) a year and by paying upfront I got a 25% discount. I was able to pay my fees and support myself working a job making $15/hr (€9) at a petrol station, I’d also work Sundays for double pay.>nepotismI was the very last wave to beat the DEI process so getting a grad job basically involved>good grades>good interviewThe grades is black and white the interview I was absolutely advantaged by having gone to a good private school and had a father who owned a business and was well off and I grew up around his friends and going away on golf and sporting trips with them. I knew how to talk to adults which I didn’t realise at the time but was a huge advantage at 19. You then work as a summer intern and that’s where you are judged on the work you produce but you are benefitted by human relationships you build with superiors who back then were basically all middle age white men.
>>532519160110K AUD is something like 50K EUR
>>532516065>boomers get science path career for life for 2 year technical degree>unemployed with 7 year phd trackDay of the pillow when
>>532519262>and by paying upfront I got a 25% discount.Hello gen-X, they dropped that to 10% and then shitcanned it completely years ago
>>532518258Google. Big tech doesn't care about your background as long as you're good. Meanwhile France is a dump because Grand École crowd believe themselves to be gods (they are, gods of café clope caca 3h a day) and everyone else is treated like cattle.
>>532519263It is 66k and I understand the exchange rates. As I said electricians make more than that in my country.
>>532516065Your father is boomer vermin, disdain his acceptance and grow weed.
>>53251957711k is a lot of money, even for Paristhere are castles for 1M euros in Francein Australia you don t even have castles and a plywood house is 3M AUDgo back working in a mine Cletus Xhen Fu Oconnell
>>532519426>gen xI was early millennial, just missed Gen X but I had life on easy mode. I also bought a house while at uni.
>>532516065well, if you cannot differentiate between man and woman and think woman can be a man and man can be a woman your "degree" and youre as a person is worth to be invaded by SS unit.
>>532516408And rent in Jewsa is 2500 dollars a month
>>532517411From reading your posts here it's clear why you can't get a job. You're an idiot. Sorry.
>>532519887>castles for 1M euros in FranceSome are much less. You mostly buy the land.They are cheap because it costs hundreds of thousands a year to maintain and are situated in the middle of nowhere.You're also forced to keep them in shape.
>>532519887Those castles are cheap because you need to spend another million to make them habitable and need to keep them in a certain condition. Along with all the other shit the local government will force you to do.$3M plywood houses? No, there are overpriced city houses but majority of that is land. It is easy to pick up a large block of land here for 100k. I own a large block (3ha and river access) with a 4 bedroom house and it cost me ~300k euro.Also Cletus Xhen Fu O'Connell??? Just call us Bruce you retard, Cletus is an American hillbilly thing. So you would just say Bruce Chan or some shit.
He couldve stayed a lab tech if he were lazy, you think they just gave it to him because he exists?
>>532517033>the US is far worse than anything in western EuropeTheyre also not a continent where both political parties are favorites of radfen college girls.>I've been to 50+ countriesIve been to more, last notable one was Afghanistan, had lunch with an interior minister referred to as "His excellency.">The same way when foreigners think of Britain they don't think of downtown islamabad. [not Malmo]K...but Ive been to London and stayed next to the Thames. Its a modern jungle-zoo. Netherlands and Denmark got it right, Belgium not so much, Luxemburg was nice but it already felt international due to the banks and other things based there.Some places crashed during the whole "seat shuffle" of the New World Order. Thats why Trump is testing countries, to see if where they are internally. Europe just didnt feel it because you were a vassel of the US.Europe is closer to being the US's child than parent. They dont even understand Russia...they dont understand themselves, its baffling.
>>532519262>good private school>father who owned a business and was well off>I grew up around his friends and going away on golf and sporting trips with themMakes a lot of sense how you ended up high-achiever.I went to a regular school were most classmates were lowlife weed smokers that I didn't want to associate with hence why I became a loner and a virgin that I am still now and post on 4chan still to this day.My parents are poor lower class, and the only friends they have are each other. They have no connections, they also grew up without nepotism or parents working in the soviet government - they didn't profited from privatization after the USSR collapse.I had no mentors in life other than classmates I hanged around up til age 14, hence why I fucked around in uni for 8 years and finished at the end at least in something that interests me.>>532519262>superiors who back then were basically all middle age white menNow half of that is women. Hiring, interviewers, HR are all women who value candidates also on their looks now.
>>532520181>1 post>doesn't elaboratefuck off
>>532519887> in Australia you don t even have castles and a plywood house is 3M AUDBecause non-citizens can buy property, same as USWe’re competing with the entire world to but real estate Who do you reckon wins?
>>532516065>started from scratch>65 and finally making ok money>...had everything given to himStop complaining and realize you don't get everything overnight. You aren't a failure, but CS is over for most people (thanks AI). Go be a plumber or electrician. Seriously. You have to be able to adapt.
>>532516065your dad had to suck a border collie's cock to get all of that
>>532516065if you got your cs degree in the last 3 years you are a fuckin dumbass
>>532516432nothing wrong with spurtin'
>>532521505>Because non-citizens can buy property, same as USIs this also non-citizen?
>>532521328First advice is stop serf mentality. I was early 20s and I’d be with a middle age MD making a few to several million a year and I’d bust their balls treating them as equals. The caveat to that is reading the room and knowing who you can do that too.>RigaHad many a great weekend there.
>>532516065You're a disgrace, you useless shit
>>532523150>bust their balls treating them as equalsThis would be considered disrespectful outside of Anglo countries/culture, especially in Germany and you'd probably get fired or lowered in rank unless you're at the bottom already.
>>532523994At the time I worked for a German bank.
>>532521904cs teaches way more than just basic programming. Picrel>>532524078Germans that lived half their lives abroad and had adapted Anglo cultural values?
