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it’s over for us
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great. is he going to accept it when Garvin Newton makes buddy buddy again with the euros?
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Needed help with war they already won? Silly american, like the USA care about yuropoor users like us.
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>>532522893
is he going to bring up when america pussied out of nearly every EU deal in the first term - or is that just a made up fantasy land to deflect from? act like a pissy baby, get treated like one.
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but what if the President goes rogue. Or what if he decides to not be President, when accepting bribes, he's used this excuse before, take money as a citizen, not as President
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>>532522893
Do you need a help or not yoy kike loving golems?
Bacause your orange faggot say one thing and another thing next day
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>>532522893
NATO is a defensive alliance. We have absolutely zero obligation to get involved in Israel's wars.
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>>532522893
The US rebuilt Europe with the Marshall plan in order to have a market to sell to. Now the US is at war with the other half of the world... Europe could leave the US with no market to export to again and we'd be fucked.
There is 0 thought put into most of these fucking statements. You can't be at war with everyone and think you'll be fine. You won't be fine.
I am also pretty sure Europe got in the state it is in because of the US and jews' hatred for Europe. I wouldn't blame them if they hated us with a passion.
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>>532522893
then we must kill americans and israelis. ok.
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>>532522893
America blew up nordtsream
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>>532522893
Oh no, literally who is never going to forgive Europe for this shit!
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>>532523391
>I wouldn't blame them if they hated us with a passion.
Pretty much all the blame is laid with Trump and the administration.
If whoever comes next approaches it in a more conciliatory way, it will mostly go back to normal I thiink.
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>>532523470
america is falling apart dude
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>>532523470
Nord Stream got blown up by Biden.
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>>532522893
Why do so many not understand that NATO is a defensive alliance? Israel/US were the aggressors.
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>>532522893
>the US needed their help
What for? Aren't you guys winning?
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>>532522893

I kind of agree with him.

We should a couple hundred A-10s, fly them in a line across all of Europe and do a strafe as punishment.
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>>532523536
By Ukrainians.
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What a retarded nonargument. The European-America deal is not unconditional.
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>>532523470
Hans im sorry but europe needs to collapse socially and financially. The city of london, brussels and the banking cartel of the whole continent and its fake opposition (((russia))) needs to be collapsed. Watch Brendon O'connell
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>>532522893
literally who?
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>>532522893
Fucking mutts were never going to help us either way. Look at Kurds. Look at Afganistan or Iraq gubments.

It's better to ditch them now and bet on yourself. Imagine if Oinkers fell in 3day SMOcand Russkies raided Warsaw. Not a single US soldier would come, cause mutts are puppets in jew hands

Gulf states should wake up now as it's clearly seen that they are second category "allies" while all the firepower goes to protect Israel
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>>532523526
>america is falling apart dude

if you're an unemployed tranny or an illegal, sure. if you're a normal person its fine
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time to kill americans and juden then. Im ok with that. mutts can sit at there border and watch for incoming nukes from over the horizon while being sourrnded.
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>>532522893
>innocuous
>not likely to bother or offend
>causing no injury or damage
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>>532522893
He’s overestimating the democrats.

The kind of partisan interruptions to diplomacy is commonplace from the left now.

A Democrat president will easily reopen ties with the U.S.

We need to start participating in this culture war or lose it. But first we will need to kick out kikes and their golems.
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>>532524414
i have a business, it's falling apart, construction is dead in 6 months. super busy until then.
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>>532522893
oh no amerikikes wont rule over you
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>>532522893
Why does not a single american understand what NATO is? Are they fucking retarded?
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>>532522893
who is this guy?
is it not a bias to speak for america as a jewish man?
how can we know he is not putting israel before america?
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>>532522893
Who's Mr Schlichter?
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>>532522893
>sees flag
Yeah, i guess
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>>532523526
tranny
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>be in alliance that deals with fighting defensive wars in case a member of said alliance is attacked
>Member of such alliance starts an offensive war against a third party
>Surprised pikachu face when alliance doesn't come to your aid for something that isn't covered in alliance's treaty

When I visit a cardiologist I do not expect a foot massage
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>>532523526
too soon to say. Either way it'll be a decade plus before the actual collapse.
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>>532525033
Expect iran has attacked both French and English territories and they both were too afraid to do anything because of their large Muslim population
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>>532522893
>mutts spend decades forcing faggotry and globalism on the world
>world finally tells them to fuck off
>amerigolems seethe
classic
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It might be in Europe’s best interest if we left nato considering we lose every war and also start most of them(for israel)
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>>532522893
errrrr
we are indeed dealing with one guy
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>>532522893
But Trump said Iran is done for and Europę never helped in anything. Why they need Euro help again?
Mutts can't be more pathetic with their scowling.
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>>532522893
Europeans are dealing with Israels colony
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>>532525137
the juden did attack. hence why there is no response. That makes me by far more sad.

Europe needs to bomb israel in to submissions and revert the borders.
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If they're so powerful and the Europeans so weak, why the fuck would they need them to re-open the strait?
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>>532525298
Ya ok Muhammad what ever your goat fucking ass says
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>>532525137
>Expect iran has attacked both French and English territories

Wut? When did that happen?
France and Britain had a deal, and normal diplomacy, with Iran until Trump decided to tear it up.

Looks like France is continuing having normal diplomacy with Iran at least.
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>>532522893
Boo hoo, fuck this faggot ass kike war.
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>>532523536
and that was a good thing
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>Americans wanted to be saved again by their mommy
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>>532525378
Are you retarded?
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>>532522893
That guy is an absolute retard and he is a dogshit writer, literal boomer loser wannabe-badass fag.
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>>532522893
I used to talk to Kurt on a daily basis and there is not a jew cock he would not suck. He absolutely believes blowing the jewish race is his ticket to jew heaven, like all evangelicals.
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My dear miggers, if you already won and Iran is begging for peace after being destroyed by the world's number 1 military, why do you feel the need to drag us into your needless jewish wars?
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>>532522893
>innocuous
He clearly has no idea what the word means. He's a complete fucking moron, just like drumf and the migatards
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>>532525368
sure mutt, your delusional as usual. How about you win a war for once.
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>>532524130
A Germ like you by the look of things
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>>532522893
*it’s over for the US
ftfy
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>>532522893
>Kurt Schlichter
>https://www.jewishlawforum.com/bio005.html
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>>532523092
You mother fuckers might want to grow some humility and a fucking spine.
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>>532525431
lol OK

They fired at a joint UK/US military base, which is perfectly normal considering US is attacking them.
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>>532522893
Sorry ass bitch rant
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>>532525482

The media has determined our wincon for this war is regime change so that isn't happening. We will, however, bomb the fuck out of military targets for a few more weeks though.

Enjoy the refugees and inflation nigger
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>>532522893
all this fucking names are german
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The Browning of America can not come fast enough. They will be Catholic and Anti-Semitic and based.
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>>532522893
But Trump ran on a peace ticket so American voters should be more angry about being betrayed by Trump than Europe not backing him up in yet another illegal war of aggresion. If the war was justified I'm sure Europe would support the US.
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>>532522893
>never forgove never forget expect us
the amount of cringe i was exposed to was a lethal dosage
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>>532525033
>>532524673
>>532523586
>>532523365


>NATO is a defensive alliance

CORRECT

And America is a member of that alliance. And America has suffered HUNDREDS of terror attacks by the Iranians over the last 47 years.

The USS Cole
the beirut barracks
the achillo Lauri

Iran has also sponsored terror attacks against other members of the alliance ... France, Germany, Spain, the UK and canada ... I could go on, but the list is so long I couldnt possibly type it out. All of these attacks that Iran has carried out, starting with taking diplomats hostage ...

ARE FUCKING ACTS OF FUCKING WAR YOU FUCKTARD

There is no statute of limitations on acts of war. Seizing the strait of hormuz is an ACT OF WAR. Every flagged vessel that is prevented from travelling through that strait has had an ACT OF WAR committed against it. That includes every fucking nation in the EU.

This is "causus Belli" .... a legally justified war. Which part of "ACT OF WAR" do you not understand you filthy little muzzrat PIGFUCKER
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>>532525771
>peace ticket

Peace through strength, Nigel. Now how about you guys elect a candidate that will deport all the non-whites.
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>>532522893
Oh, dear!
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>>532522893
>we are not going to forgive or forget
I bet we will be apologizing before long
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>>532525817
Why do jeets get so mad on behalf of Israel?
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>>532525771
>yet another illegal war of aggresion

Oh right I forgot, the Iranians have spent the last forty seven years minding thier own business and selling oil. The USA just attacked them .... FOR NO REASON AT ALL.

FUCK OFF. JUST FUCK BACK TO PLEBBIT YOU FUCKING MUZZRAT PIECE OF SHIT
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>>532525998
fuck off back to twatter you filthy little muzzrat pigfucker
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>>532526115
You are brown sir.
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>>532526023
Trump is just finishing what George Bush started after 9/11 retard.
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>>532522893
So are you going to order food or nah?
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>>532525525
>Grow a spine and die for Jews!
Nah lol
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>>532526148

and you're a faggot, saaaar
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>we

who is this we? this chucklefuck thinks he has solidarity with whatever epstein cabal is running america lol
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>>532525863
>Peace through starting wars
Kek
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>>532526159
Israel and Saudi Arabian did 9/11 though.
Saudi Arabian Sunni terrorists have attacked the US way more than Shia muslims.
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>>532526023
> The USA just attacked them .... FOR NO REASON AT ALL.
Because israel has blackmail on most of your polticians thats why
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>>532525817
>America has suffered HUNDREDS of terror attacks by the Iranians over the last 47 year
>>532525817
So why did the US never invoke the 5th then?

Don't believe the lies you're being fed by trump
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>>532526271

Your country got colonized by India in under 10 years. Maybe if you fought for it, it could have been saved
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>>532523589
>What for? Aren't you guys winning?
Wow, cool down the anti-Americanism. They have already won. Several times, in fact.
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We needed just a little help fighting Israel's war of aggression. C'mon guys :,(
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>>532522893
Europe rejected America on the basis that they're ZOG, it has nothing to do with a "time of need".
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>>532526282
Hence illegal war of aggression. 9/11 was a false flag to wage pre-planned wars throughout ther Middle East.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvWMCk6-ZDM
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It must be nice being American your almost completely isolated from the consequences of your actions until an ally tells you to fuck off, keep crying lmao.
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>>532526159
Trump is finishing what IRAN started in 1978 when they kidnapped and murdered American diplomats. And far too numerous too mention ACTS OF WAR commited over that 47 year period.

Trump is the first president in 50 years to draw a line in the sand and say "no further".

Fuck the fucking muzzlims. Im all outta sympathy for them. Pack of scheming, lying , rapey, pedos and pirates. Fuck them. Fuck the horse they rode in on. Im all outta tears for the poor little palestinioos, the poor little iranians who "dindu nuffin" .... they're the victims. ahhhhh .... boo hoo..

how the poor little muzzrat cries out in pain as he commits rapes, and murders
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>>532522893
The Europeans are absolutely dealing with a man right now. Yes, Trump was elected by the full USA, and yes, that does increase the risk calculus for countries downstream of the teetering Pax Americana. Republicans may be out of power for a while after this shitshow of finally getting what they voted for.

The real question is whether Europe actually wants us to become more of a social democracy -- if the function we formerly fulfilled actually required a version of America which resulted in what we have now.

Either way, reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated... for now. The dark horse here is that Trump still has nearly three years left to fuck shit up even worse. It'll be nice if Europe can recognize that what they are dealing with -- as evidenced by lack of popular support -- a man rather than the will of a nation... but that won't matter if the man himself is allowed to continue running amok on the world stage with his insipid grudges and impulsive wars of choice.
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>jeets and mutts want the white man to go to war for jews calling them muslims if they dont agree the thread
/pol/ was turned into internet india
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>>532522893
We have to purge the left from leadership in Europe. They are traitors that are destroying everything we have built.
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>>532526580
>until an ally tells you to fuck off

fuck off, nigger
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>>532522893

>separating the man from his actions

nope. who is this fraud anyway?
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>>532526399
We're ruled by the same kikes you guys are.
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>the United States of American needed their help
The richest country in the world by far needed their help D:
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>>532526384
>Don't believe the lies you're being fed by trump
Its got nothing to do with Trump, or even Israel.

Are you seriously suggesting that Iran HAS NOT COMMITTED ACTS OF WAR.
That Iran did NOT bomb the beirut barracks and murder US soldiers.
That Iran did NOT bomb the USS Cole.
That Iran did not commit far too numerous too mention acts of terrorism over the last 47 years..

>Don't believe the lies you're being fed by trump

Dont believe my lying eyes!!!! GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKING LYING MUZZRAT DOGFUCKER
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>>532522893
LOL
Europe is such an entitled, post-wall bitch
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>>532522893
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>>532523365
That’s not he’s talking about. He’s talking about EU closing its airspace to US military planes.

I’m so fucking glad all this shit is crashing and burning. No more pissing away billions in Europe, let them handle it when Russia decides to invade Lithuania. We have too many problems to deal with in our own country to guarantee military security for Europe, and if we’re being completely honest, NATO should have been dissolved after the USSR fell.
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>this changes everything
It changes fucking nothing, it's been obvious for two years that the USA wouldn't assist Europe if war broke out. Literally nothing has changed. Nothing has occurred.
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>>532526925
9/11 was a false flag and was used to turn free western countries into big brother security states. Iran are the least of our problems.
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>>532522893
Is this kurt guy a kike, because he writes like a kike.
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>>532527091
>We have too many problems to deal with in our own country to guarantee military security for Europe
This is true if and only if we can focus on one single thing at a time. If this were the case, we wouldn't be able to e.g. collect taxes and investigate murders at the same time -- too many problems to deal with at once. If we can, maybe through designating different bureaus and agencies, organize the government such that multiple considerations can be addressed simultaneously, it seems like the whole "too many problems to deal with at home" thing kind of collapses, right?
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>>532522893
God these are the whiniest, most bloviating showboating niggers in the world.

Hey, Americunts, I've got an idea for a new law in the USA.
Nobody is allowed to carry on like this unless they've served a minimum 20 years in the military or if they've done a tour overseas and seen at least three squadmates get killed.

I'm sick of being lectured by fucking draft dodgers and cowards about how brave America is. And something tells me Kurt Shylockter here hasn't served.
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>>532527091
>He’s talking about EU closing its airspace to US military planes.
As of right now, Germany is still part of the EU. So no, the EU hasn't closed its airspace to you. France, Spain and a few others have. I bet a good chunk of your war logistics run through Germany right now. Fucking ungrateful pseudo allies.
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>>532524673
>Are they fucking retarded?
An estimated 60-70% of US adults has the functional literacy level of a native European 10-year old.
So- yes.
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>>532526984
And oddly enough the IRGC has committed ACTS OF WAR against almost every NATO nation. Lets run down some salient facts:

(1) murdered 35000 of thier own citizens, just this year!
(2) attacked thirteen of thier neighbours, just this month!
(3) committed acts of piracy and war against the entire world by shutting down a vital shipping lane ..... every flagged vessel that cannot travel through the strait of Hormuz has had an ACT OF WAR committed against it by the IRGC ....
(4) committed far too numerous too mention acts of terrorism over the last 47 years
(5) has violated every treaty they ever signed .... every fucking off ramp they were given, they broke it, over and over and over again

FUCK THEM.

the poor little muslimrinios, they only been raping enslaving and murdering people for 1200 years, we should all just give them another chance.
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>>532522893
>is that their obligations within our alliance depend on wheither they like the guy...
no.
Bro.
NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance.
You cant START an fucking OFFENSIVE war and then when they shoot back cry like a bitch "hurr why aren't my allies defending me?!" thats not how this works my dude.

You ever played any total war games?
Because see, if you want the one where your allies join you in your offensive wars, you need to sign the "military alliance" not the "defensive alliance"
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>>532525431
>are you retarded
nigga you are retarded lmao. why the fuck would Iran attack Britain after we refused to join the war
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>>532527399
jeet paws typed this post
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>>532527399
(1) through (3) happened AFTER we started a war with them. (4) is underspecified and (5) is just untrue. Do better. Take this stuff more seriously. It matters.
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>blows up nordstream
>closes the strait
SAY THAMK YOU
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>>532527340
Uneducated folks find it hard to distinguish. It’s easy for them to think of all X as Y. Spain refused them? All Europeans refused them. It’s also why they thought wiping out governance in a country of 90mm would be adequate to achieve any sort of strategic goals. Like yah okay your military mogged theirs. So fucking what? Strait is closed and nukes aren’t off the table. All while Israel gets pummeled.
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>>532523032
Newton, that famous chemist? I though he died a long time ago.
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>>532527399
you realised everyone younger than 40 is literally just waiting for you people to die so we can take our countries back
you will go down as the most despised generation in history
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>>532527416
here we go again.

the poor little muslimrinios, they dindu nuffin.
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>>532527586
*realise
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>>532522893
>Friend back stabs you and calls you an idiot
>friend the starts beating up on someone you have no problems with
>Friend yells at you "help me beat this guy up or we are no longer friends!!!"
ok lol
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>>532522893
>we don't need NATO we will pull out of it, were the motherfucking greatest
>NATO could this easily solve this issue that we created with minimal effort
>REEEEEEEE NATO DO SOMETHING ALREADY
I'd laugh if it wouldn't be so tragic.
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>>532522893
F
It was fun quibbling with you on a himilayan basket weaving forum.
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>>532522893
I hate that fucking jew
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>>532522893
WE DON'T WANT YOUR BULLSHIT WAR OF CHOICE AND NATO IS A ***DEFENSIVE*** ALLIANCE
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>>532523427
You won't do shit.
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>>532527484
yes i know, iran has just peacefully minding its own business for the last 47 years. they dindu nuffin.

cry more please.
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>>532527695

NATO IS A TRANNY ALLIANCE, THE US NEEDS TO WITHDRAW
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>>532527586
Notice the name, it's a fucking kike, not even American. Their primary objective is to kill as many white people as possible and this time we didn't take the bait that's why they're so mad.
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>>532523586
You have that look in your eyes like the kid at the zoo who fucked with the bear many times and then realized this time the zookeeper got tired of your shit and left the gate unlatched
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>>532522893
Mam this is a Wendy’s
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>>532527091
Honestly, there was absolutely never any reason for the US to get involved in Ukraine. I think that was a MUCH bigger blunder than the Iran war. Pretty much the US, Ukraine, Russia, and Europe are all worse off for it.
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>>532527512
I don't want to cry crocodile tears, but from an objective standpoint, Israel's position here is pretty unenviable. There is a plausible line of reasoning -- if we allow an inversion of the popular relationship -- where Trump unilaterally (as is his wont) went, "Damn, this Iran shit sucks, let's do this!" and started bombing.

Regardless of whether or not this is absolutely true or just somewhat true... now that the war isn't going so great, Israel is stuck in a terrible position. They're taking constant missiles and Shaheds up the ass and the US can't really protect them from it. Maybe it would actually like a ceasefire, but because Trump is who he is, Israel risks pissing him off and making him impulsively withdraw all involvement, like he eventually did in Ukraine.

Israel (or its lobbyists) may very well have provoked Trump into attacking, but now that the war is on, and now that they're getting hit pretty bad, they also don't have an easy offramp, even if they're looking for one. Trump's ego and inability to take an L prevents that.
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>>532522893
When he says America, he means Israel. Europe is a collection of vassals of the Judeo-American hegemony and the EU and NATO are the frameworks in which those vassals function as part of the greater Zionist order. Right now the Jews are re-evaluating their strategy in Europe and are seriously considering cashing out, doing as much demographic and economic damage in the short term as possible and then pulling out and leaving Europe in the absolute worst geopolitical position that they can. Prior to this the strategy has been to make Europe die a slow death via demographic replacement and keep it integrated as a Zionist colony but the local shabbos goy aren't obedient enough and the Amerigolem is losing steam, they know they can't maintain their grip on Europe indefinitely.
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>>532527774
You turbo niggers are the only ones kvetching about leaving NATO. Leave already and quit whining like a little bitch that you are.
>b-b-but muh trannies
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>>532527891
Do you think it was a mistake for Russia to get involved in Ukraine, too?
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>>532522893
If America needed help from NATO, why didn't it invoke any NATO article?
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>>532527538
>chemist
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>>532527898
lol he will never abandon israel

this was his role ever since he met jeffrey
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>>532527994
>Garvin Newton
I was being sarcastic. Should have typed an "/s" for you plebbitors.
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>>532522893
>least popular war in American history
>we
>we
>we
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>>532522893
It unironically is. Have fun with Russia.
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>>532525817
>The USS Cole
Outside the USA
>the beirut barracks
Outside the USA
>the achillo Lauri
Outside the USA
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>>532522893
Trump is not a usa its just retard that was elected and is disregarded by majority of americans.
>thats why he started this war but because hes retarded he screw up
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>>532522893
>agree with us peasants
Fuck America lol. Land of corruption with a smile
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>>532528045
I prefer to operate on what's knowable. Maybe Trump is being blackmailed. That could be the case -- we don't actually know that. The bigger problem is that all of this is explainable without the conspiracy: Trump's actions are coherent with who and what Trump is. It's even more terrifying than being blackmailed, if you think about it, because the blackmail theory implies there is some basic competence being restrained due to hidden consequences. If there is actually no blackmail... there is no actual hidden competence at all -- this is just a fucking moron doing moronic things as the most singularly powerful executive in US history.
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>>532527898
The difference between Trump's behavior towards Ukraine versus Israel is that Trump was never beholden to Ukraine. Trump's ass has a star of David burned into it, he is the property of Israel and he knows it. The Israelis are the one who not only don't want to take the L but are desperately afraid of Iran coming out of this with their resolve and even a portion of their military strength intact. The Israelis want boots on the ground and the total systematic destruction of the Iranian Theocracy, the only way they can be sure. Trump and the other Shabbos goy in Washington are trying to sell them on bombing infrastructure and doing some war crimes but the Israelis are gonna buy and eventually they're gonna get those boots on the ground.
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>>532522893
kek
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>>532522893
Correct. Not dealing with a man, but a narcissistic toddler.
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>>532527960
Yes. I don't think it would've been that bad for Russia if Ukraine had joined NATO. Certainly not as bad as losing 325k young men in the trenches and just as many becoming the public burden, while destroying your economy.

But that doesn't excuse our mistake that followed.
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>>532522893
I think the main difference is that if we had blue golem, eurocucks would jump at the chance to participate in defensive genocide so they can look like peacekeepers while enabling Israel. The simply disagree with the optics
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>>532522893
>Embarrassing posturing
Yeah, I'm sure when the Democrats are back in power in 2028 they're going to be so pissed off we didn't help Trump with his retarded and illegal war.
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I'm genuinely puzzled by Europoors who do not have the military strength to defend themselves from invasion, have not had military experience since 1945, or even their own borders, letting jihadist migrants rape and kill their children on a daily basis, talk about how they don't want to be part of NATO or even know what it means to be in a defensive alliance.

You do understand that consequences of that, right? You do understand you people would be speaking Russian in your own country and living in commieblocks - oh wait! That's Latvia. 25% of Latvia is Russian who don't speak Latvian and refuse to learn it while living off benefits. That's what happens when let Russia invade you.

You fags complain about us all the time, so then leave us alone. Get your own military.
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What was the reason for attacking Iran?
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>>532522893
Words cannot describe the levels of retardation that are jammed inside a baby boomers brain.
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>>532527399
1) none of our business
2) they let the US attack Iran from their countries, they're fair game
3)as a response to a jew initiated war by the US, completely rational and easily reversed if the US stops drinking jew cum
4) none of our business
5) you're talking about kikes

So yeah nothing that triggers NATO. Kys
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>>532522893
soon you will have to denounce trump like germans denounce hitler lol
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>>532528470

Europe was finally confronting their immigrant and refugee crisis, so we had to accelerate more of them to flood Europe. Hope you like Persians more than MENA niggers
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>>532528470
They were appreciably close to a nuclear test with a suicidal fanatic at the helm.
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>>532528432
>so then leave us alone
Take your military bases out of our land then.
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>>532522893
>the most innocuous kind of cooperation
"Hand over Greenland and thank us for taking it"?
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>>532527399
>ACTS OF WAR against almost every NATO nation
Such as?
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>>532527091
>That’s not he’s talking about. He’s talking about EU closing its airspace to US military planes.
Remember when Trump said Europe was on its own for securing access to Hormuz?
Well- closing airspace to US aggressors was apparently Iran's condition for allowing free unhindered passage, which seems like a reasonable condition and the easiest way out. And after all: if Europe is on its own to secure passage for its tankers, then the US can be on its own being Israel's attack dog.

So, you can chalk this one up to a good old: "Noooo!!! Not like that!!" as the latest in a long line of Trump-branded political blunders.
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>>532528330
>Trump's ass has a star of David burned into it, he is the property of Israel and he knows it.
I'm not sure the evidence supports this.
>>532528400
Do you think the world would be a better or a worse place if every country decided spontaneously that territorial aggression is OK? Would there be more war or less war?
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>miggers not realizing their political movement is dead
None of our allies care how mad you are.
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>>532528799
>So, you can chalk this one up to a good old: "Noooo!!! Not like that!!" as the latest in a long line of Trump-branded political blunders.
I'm not sure there's been a less competent geopolitical actor since the birth of democracies, honestly. At least one with this blend of ineptitude plus power and mental health issues. I know Europe has a long history of feckless monarchs, so maybe a Euro can correct me here, but... I'm tempted to say that you have to go all the way back to Rome to match this degree of ineptitude plus national power.
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>>532527595
Oh, they did plenty. But not against NATO members.
The other gulf countries? Not NATO members.
Israel? Not a NATO member.
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>>532522893
Lotta bluster on Twatter these days. How many of these people were talking about the "peace president" prior to the election?
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>>532528883
Slippery slope fallacy.
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>>532522893
TDS is wild
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>>532522893
Getting Europe nuked by Russia has always been the plan. Why? Jews hate Europe and Europeans and want them all dead.
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>>532522893
>Europe MUST obey the president picked out by jews.
Nah, Ill forgive the eurobros for this. In fact, thanks eurobros for ignoring the orange jew.
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>>532527898
Y-know, except that narrative falls flat once you realize that Israel picked RIGHT THERE AND THEN to also reignite a conflict with Lebanon and fight on two fronts, putting itself in a pincer.

Why the fuck would you do that, if you already feel you're stuck and really looking for a ceasefire - hmm?
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>>532529105
Is it really a fallacy? Is there somehow an insufficient body of historical evidence suggesting that permissive attitudes towards territorial expansion... tend to express a tendency towards territorial expansion?

Plus, I'm not even arguing a slippery slope. My question is as such: is war more or less likely if the world's attitude towards territorial expansion becomes more permissive?

I'm not asking you to evaluate the permutations or skip ahead in the logic -- I'm asking you to answer that specific question, if you would.
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>>532522893
>we not forgiv
>we nut forget
kek
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>>532529269
>Why the fuck would you do that, if you already feel you're stuck and really looking for a ceasefire - hmm?
Probably because you were overconfident in your missile defenses kek. I'm not trying to say Israel is a saint. Bibi (himself unpopular) wanted this war. The question is whether or not he still wants it.
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>>532527091
>He’s talking about EU closing its airspace to US military planes
military planes used offensively
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>>532526925
Are you moose on the loose?
Who the fuck is pro zio?
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>>532528432
>have not had military experience since 1945
(You now remember all those news site hit-pieces ridiculing the US behavior during joint military exercises under NATO, where US top brass requested the Europeans via backdoor channels to pretty-pretty please hold back a little, because all the US losses during those exercises were becoming embarrassing and bad for US morale.)
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>>532525817
You joke but faggots at my bar actually believe stupid shit like this
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you act like a retard and we're going to treat you like a retard, so pull yourself together and stop fucking the world up and sucking jew cock
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>>532522893
Who and why should I care
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>>532523526
uh... They sure want you to think that don't they?
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>>532528612
Like they've been for 30 years now, right Bibi? Always two weeks away.
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>>532527306
You have to pay people to work at those agencies and real money is finite you stupid nigger
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>>532522893
Imagine growing up with a faggot last name like "Schlichter"
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>>532527484
1 happened in january.
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>>532529051
>I'm not sure there's been a less competent geopolitical actor since the birth of democracies, honestly. At least one with this blend of ineptitude plus power and mental health issues.
Emperor Nero of Rome. The only remaining way in which Trump remains more competent than Nero, is that he hasn't willfully torched his own seat of power to the ground yet. But he's doing a bang-up job sofar of running the US into the ground, so wait a few more months and he might actually get there.

Nero was *also* a textbook narcisssist running with an inner circle with nepotism and industrial/political opportunists, come to think of it...
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>>532522893
>threaten your allies with invasion over Greenland
>start a war despite your allies' warning
>claim that you have won
>beg for help from your allies
>furiously threaten them some more

I think its time to start aligning with China and Russia. Cheap energy and resources, partners to trade with, no foreign wars to drag us into, no demands for tranny prides or BLM or immigration, no dealing with unhinged jews.
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>>532527091
>NATO should have been dissolved after the USSR fell.
Should have been. There wouldn't be Slavs killing Slavs for jews right now if it did. The bases near Russia could have been turned over, scrapped. Iran's already proven they're entirely worthless. One big cluster fuck in this shit timeline.
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>>532522893
The coping and seething from miggers is reaching absurd levels.
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>>532529574
>europeans fellating themselves
Yes. I'm sure this can be trusted.
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>>532529305
>is war more or less likely if the world's attitude towards territorial expansion becomes more permissive?
Since the other anon isn't going to answer, I'm going to do it myself: war becomes more likely. It's as simple as that. If expansion is OK, you see more wars because the incentives no longer point towards diplomacy.

If we agree that war is bad and that permissive attitudes towards territorial expansion, then it follows that, if we want fewer wars, it is incumbent on us to act as such, since good outcomes are unlikely to materialize in this domain from inaction.

If we are going to act, we should characterize our actions. If we are the invaded party, obviously we fight back to defend our territorial integrity. If we are an external nation which seeks to dissuade expansionist wars, while joining the war directly may not be in keeping with our values, we might e.g. supply weapons and humanitarian aid to the defending country. As such, we establish a dynamic whereby aggressor nations know they will have to contend with our support of their target in addition to the target itself.

This is essentially a dummy's guide to peace through strength in its classical form. The "strength" part comes from a willingness to meaningfully defend our stance. It's something close to the exact opposite of what DJT is doing right now, incidentally.
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>>532522893
The West --- "But, but, but we've all been working together for decades to exterminate our own citizens. Why can't we get along at the top?"
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>>532529364
It's the one thing keeping him in office, and keeping him politically immune against being brought before court for the various corruption scandals he's involved in that would put him away in prison for the remainder of his unnatural life. So yeah- you can bet your ass he's willing to sacrifice his whole country for his own wellbeing.

That's how he is. How he's always been.
All must sacrifice for Bibi. Lest you forget: it was Bibi who arranged the selling of arms to Hamas and moving the pieces on the board that lead to them seizing power. Because the terror Hamas would inflict on Bibi's own people, would give Bibi free rein to attack them back and claim their territory for his Zionist colonization efforts. He didn't even bother doing it covertly. He literally openly discussed those plans in the Knesset.
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>>532530309
Ain't that the truth. Turns out globalist jews really don't like zionist jews. It's a jew eat jew world. Lmao.
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Notice how easy it was to turn on the West and make the mid east their only ally. Lmfao look at the magapedos hahahaha. Trump hates whites.
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>>532530370
He's a lot like Trump... and Putin, Erdogan, Orban, etc., as well. I like to think (with some decent evidence) that there exists a broad Israeli population which thinks all of this war shit is gay and cringe and want to find a better solution. I know a few Israelis personally who fit this bill, so I'm not entirely as naive as I present it, but there also exists a broad coalition of Israeli hillbillies who think that dictatorship is actually... le based! and that the war makes sense because of... jewish hillbilly stuff, I guess.

Obviously we have the same thing here. Our hillbillies, once they get a little bit lettered and a phone with a Twitter app, seem to find themselves having lots in common with the jewish hillbillies, which is part of why the collective world is in this mess to begin with.

It's just frustrating how not-gay this world could be if people just wanted it enough. But social media has helped create a world full of petty kings in their ideological castles, constantly kept in a state of dissonant embarrassment by the mismatch of their socio-ideological/identitarian pride and their poor living conditions. Thanks, late capitalism!

I'm just so fucking tired of all of this.
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>>532522893
>The most innocuous kind of cooperation
>Please help us commit war crimes
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>>532522893
>a breitbart mutant
>we
there is no we lmao. id rather side with ayatollah than with the we. we is over
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>>532522893
He is right 100% the globohomo leftoid elites of the EU are to blame for how europe is acting towards the US.
Those little rats would eat Kamala's shit if she asked but are against Trump because he isnt a leftoid.
The EU must be destroyed for Europe to be free again.
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kek mutts are so obsessed with us. enjoy dying for israel 6000 miles from home
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>>532530812
Is your decent evidence having met expat ziohazard infiltrators or is it the 97% war support Israel saw after they bitched a hundred little girls but before they started getting Gaza'd?
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>>532527595
You gonna have to fight muzzies by yourself, jamboy. We just ain't going to do it, we are not fighting for jews.
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>>532531282
It haa nothing to do with israel you idiot.
Your leftoid elites would turn down Trump even if Satan himself came down and the US started fighting him.
You need to realize your leaders are traitorous scum that dont care for your wellbeing and the US now is the freedom from globohomo we have all been waiting for.
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This USA administration has done nothing for Europe other than fucking us with tariffs and threatening to annex Greenland. No euro politician is going to openly support you on this, not because they have values or principles or anything, but because it would be political suicide. The average euro normie feels open disgust for Trump at this point.
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>>532531434
Kek yes the EU must go but America also needs to gtfo europe regardless what happens the occupation has gone on long enough
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>>532531301
Nah, man.
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>>532525817
>saar they attacked our troops occupying their lands or lands of their friends it's an act of war saar
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>>532531434
And America is still ruled by crazy ass jewish supramacist so your point is bullshit but whatever
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>>532528780
Not drinking yummy yummy jew jew cum is a capital offense in the US.
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>>532531434
>It haa nothing to do with israel
the only reason they are there is for israel. they are fighting and dying and spending billions purely for israeli interests and nothing else. never forget that
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>>532522893
You fucking closed the most important oil strait in the world so you could sell more of yours, and we're supposed to help you make our oil more expensive, fuck off
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>>532531590
>>532531713
You're wrong and when you realize that it will be too late.
>>532532010
Wrong but congrats on eating up leftoid propaganda.
You guys really are hopeless, it's a shame.
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>>532522893
Haha Dotard started this mess, Dotard has to clean it up HAHAHAHA
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>>532523032
Newsom will buddy buddy with Euro elites sure, they're like peas in a pod. More immigrants, less whites. But US national interest might rear its ugly head at some point - it really isn't in it for W.Europe to be controlled by rabidly islamic parties - inevitable at the current demographic trajectory. Israel would be threatened by that, and Blue or Red, all US elites serve Israel above all else.
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>>532525525
Having a spine these days is standing up and telling the jews NO!
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>>532522893

Just a few warships bro. We need a meatwave to rush the strait, and when they die we'll call it a skill issue. Please bro, my public won't stomach any combat losses for this unpopular war. I have a narrative of invulnerability to uphold, bro, please!
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>>532532936
You arent telling the jews no you idiot, the globohomo jews love that europe is leftist and they love that europe seperates from America while Trump is in power. As soon as he is gone and a leftoid is in power in the US they will push for an even closer alliance between Europe and the US, they will accelerate the globohomo agenda and they will ensure no one can ever elect an anti-leftoid candidate ever again.
Fucks sake just look at your own government, they want THAT for the entire planet and worse even.
While you are focusing on Israel which is right wing jews, the actual evil the globohomo jews will erradicate us all. They weponized your hatered and focused it away from them.
Ngl they did a great job as I see many of you retards falling for it.
We finally get the chance to rid the world of the globohomo agenda and you idiots dont see it.
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>>532532204
Okey I will just not believe my own lieing eyes and trust you
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>>532532204
>You're wrong and when you realize that it will be too late.
all 'modern warfare' is a meme and fails against zoomers with fpv-drones.
So the only real deterrence is nuclear.
And Europe has its own.
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>>532533888
You are being deceived by globohomo agendas anon.
Check >>532533885
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>>532532648
Yeah thats what they want retard it’s not an oopsie they want europeans genocided they are actively working on it
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>>532533885
>>532533944
keep crying you fucking kike
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>>532533933
By far the biggest threat to Europe isn't Russia, or China, or Donald fucking Trump. Its the hordes of muslim savages they imported. There's been violent riots in France by Kurds, no mention on the fucking BBC. The W. establishment just ignores all the problems. Like they aren't going to get worse every year that passes. Just look at the diverse vibrant Yookay over the last couple of years. Totally fracturing along ethnic lines and the left are utterly oblivious.
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>>532533944
>Muh left
>Muh right
Yep sorry but I’am not taking you seriously
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>>532523526
This is the real reason.
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>>532533885
lol
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What exactly were they supposed to “help” when there was no plan or communication? Its all a crime, not dependent on liking a guy, which actually no one trusts at all.
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>>532525431

There were also missiles fired at Turkey that everyone ignored. Israel tried to convince everyone it was Iran.
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>>532522893
Literally who?
US will do as Isreal says, regardless of who Isreal let's win the 'vote'. Clown nation.
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>>532523391
Euros don't actually hate the US, it's the US that hates itself, Europe and indeed everyone else, it seems to me. Trump especially revealed that a psychotic solipsistic attitude has no opposition in American culture. When an American says "fuck the whole world" it goes uncontested, because all that exists is American interests. And right now the main American interest is forcing the world tho use dollars thorough force and corruption.
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>>532534075
Sure thing kike, mad that I know what you're doing?
>>532534154
>>532534231
Sadly I knew you wouldnt believe me. This continent is doomed thanks to you idiots, congrats.
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>>532523032
>he going to accept it when Garvin Newton makes buddy buddy again with the euros?

EUROS FELL FOR IT AGAIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>532523889
Retard
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>>532522893
>You are our ally that means DO AS WE SAY
Nope.
America has revealed itself in it's bumbling that it is not Europe's ally, but it's enemy.
America blew up Nordstream. America handed control over the Strait of Hormuz to Iran. America has coordinated a direct attack on Europe's energy security in an attempt to cripple it.
The only way forward for Europe is to distance itself from the dying judeo-american empire.
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>>532525817
>The USS Cole
Considering what a Cohencidence that one was, plus the Liberty as well, why are we not at war with Israel instead? They've outright betrayed us on numerous occasions
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>>532534873
>America blew up Nordstream
Anglo lies
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>>532527091
Again, it’s a defensive alliance, not an offensive alliance.
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>>532535085
Everybody lies but your kike masters, eh mutt?
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>it’s over for us
Uuups...
The US military infrastructure in Poland is expanding, EU cooking in Poland some shit.
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>>532522893

This guys prolly gonna be rotting in a gulag in 20 years for suggesting that people should go fight wars for the Jews.
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The paper tiger expects Europe to act as a vassal of them, in fear of Russia, which has been demolished in eastern swamps of Ukraine, and completely stuck there for next 15 years
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>>532523032
it's Gavin NewsCUM
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>>532525817
Seethe SAAR
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>>532534539
how terrible, its impressive how kikes subdued white american males.
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>>532525817
>the achillo Lauri
kek
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>>532522893
What if the president really just likes jewish cum? has anyone considered he might genuinely like the taste? After blowing 'bubba' he's probably a connoisseur.
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>>532528780
Vague unspecific "acts of terrorism" in the last 47 years. Can't you read? Saddam has weapons of mass destruction!
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>>532525863
>Now how about you guys elect a candidate that will deport all the non-whites.
Acting like shitskins arent given sacred status in the US
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>>532522893
personally i think europe is being reasonable and this war is retarded

but a machiavellian geopolitical strategic would pull american military security infrastructure and weaponize cold war stay-behind networks to stir up discord between eu states and let them see how that stability and free healthcare continues to work out
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>>532534434
>Euros don't actually hate the US, it's the US that hates itself, Europe and indeed everyone else, it seems to me. Trump especially revealed that a psychotic solipsistic attitude has no opposition in American culture. When an American says "fuck the whole world" it goes uncontested, because all that exists is American interests. And right now the main American interest is forcing the world tho use dollars thorough force and corruption.
>>532523391
>The US rebuilt Europe with the Marshall plan in order to have a market to sell to. Now the US is at war with the other half of the world... Europe could leave the US with no market to export to again and we'd be fucked.
>There is 0 thought put into most of these fucking statements. You can't be at war with everyone and think you'll be fine. You won't be fine.
>I am also pretty sure Europe got in the state it is in because of the US and jews' hatred for Europe. I wouldn't blame them if they hated us with a passion.
>>532523470
>>532523889
>Hans im sorry but europe needs to collapse socially and financially. The city of london, brussels and the banking cartel of the whole continent and its fake opposition (((russia))) needs to be collapsed. Watch Brendon O'connell

ANONS, ITS THE KIKES CAUSING ALL THIS LOSES AND PROBLEMS
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>>532537395
strategist*
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>>532526242
>>532526399
You need to go back
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>>532527332
>And something tells me Kurt Shylockter here hasn't served.
He has.
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>>532526677
Jamboys are so easy to spot. Say something mean about kikes
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>>532522893
Whatever bitch
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>>532535314
It was ukraine.
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>>532522893
Baah...who needs allies!
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>>532522893
That nigger can go back to israel
but statement stands
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>>532537330
So when are we bombing Saudi Arabia?
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>>532525817
Seems like a retarded pajeet, point is, iranians arent our enemies, and you better fuck off back to shitland
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>>532537172
like with the simp problem, if you merely even say
>stop sucking jew dick
The average simp will be hurt and enraged.
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>>532537688
That's a national guard combat patch lol. If he had a better one, he'd be wearing it. Nasty girls throughout the GWOT were almost exclusively static FOB security. They got the cushy jobs where the rest of us were outside the wire doing infantry shit.

It's just strange how many of these far-right goobers are National Guard instead of active duty, right?
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>>532522893

Such nonsense. NATO is supposed to be a defensive alliance.
Trump and Netanyahu initiated aggression against Iran on extremely flimsy, almost certainly false grounds.
Since this is an offensive war and not a defensive war, other NATO countries are under no obligation to join in. Especially when closing the strait of Hormuz seriously threatens their fuel and food supply and America doesn't seem to care or have even considered that
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>>532523634
But really by Biden, who literally said he was going to do it.
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Just die for israel after we insulted you mkay?
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Who is that kike?
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>>532522893
This is funny because all the US has to do to maintain its global hegemony is not be idiots and not be full of hubris.
It's as simple as that, but they can't.
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>>532523634
It was definitely Biden.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/biden-threatened-to-block-russias-nord-stream-2-amid-ukraine-tensions-but-what-is-it
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>>532522893
the fuck is he talking about?
bro
you are committing war crimes and aiding a genocidal illegitimate state

this isn't about trump
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>>532522893
lmao this nigga mad as fuck lol
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>>532537688
>>532538095
Oh no no no no no lmao. This dude claims to be an infantry officer in his bios... but he's wearing a fucking CAV SCOUT hat lmao. Also, that badge is not a CIB. It's not even a CAB (combat award for non-infantry). It's fucking JUMP WINGS.

Fucking chickenhawk alert lmao
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>>532537792
>It wasn't us!
>It was our puppet!
lmao
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>>532524608
You mean an
>Antisemitic president
Will easily reopen ties.
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>>532538106
>NATO is supposed to be a defensive alliance.
Yeah except that it isn't. Look up Serbia and Libya.
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>sail to your death PUSSY
>no
>IM ASKING FOR THE SMALLEST THINGS
I don't get it, if it's so simple why don't Americans do it? Do they just not want Timmy Tyrone and Paco to be the ones dying on TV? They'd rather it be Nigel and Mohammed?
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>>532522893
What a fucking womanly post KEK, same energy as "if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve my best"
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This is the kind of baby-faced pogue PUSSY who wants to posture up like he's some hardcore conservative army man... as YOUR brothers and sisters pointlessly storm beaches in Iran like it's fucking Peleliu for FUCKING NOTHING.
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>>532523391
Nigga your retarded. Euros out all type of protectionist practices in place to stop fair trade.
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>>532538964
>pol
No you just didn't help us when we asked for it, nothing more complicated than that.
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>>532522893
thats nice schlichter write a short story about kelly turnbull grabbing the iranian uranium
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>>532539085
Shut the fuck up, moron. Europe rightfully didn't want to send its children to fucking die on behalf of a pointless war. If you had ever experienced even the slightest fucking taste of what it is you're agitating for, you'd sing a different tune.
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>>532522893
good
fuck those niggers
they can get nuked
AND GET THE FUKC OUT OF EUROPE
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kek thank god we're finally getting out of NATO after all this adios niggers
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>>532539591
you da nigger here, nigger
now fuck off and die
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>>532539565
The US overthrew leftoids and sane people are in power now, they see that the EU elites are leftover agents from the US leftoid branch and are still continuing leftoid globohomo agendas.
The people of the EU wrongly think they are sticking it to the jew by telling Netanyahoo to fuck off meanwhile the globohomo jews that run the EU are violently pissed off that they lost their hold in the US and are actively using EU elites to make european peoples believe that America is the enemy because of Trump, while in fact Trump is the liberator of Europe and THEY, the EU elites, are his target.
The EU must be erradicated for europe to be free and the sooner the free peoples of Europe realize this the better future we will all have.
If you all allow the EU elites to survive this when we have them on their knees, we will never recover and you will push the final nail in whitedoms coffin.
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>>532525817
It’s just not our problem is all.
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>>532539774
Oh hey, pull up a chair.
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>>532539774
Fill in the blank, please:
>By starting a war with Iran on behalf of Israel, we are effectively disrupting the agenda of globohomo jews because _____________
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>>532539758
bye faggot lmao Sovlakia i dont know where that is lol have fun being a faggot in Sovlakia
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>>532539814
Die globohomo EU leftoid kike, we WILL purge you from Europe like you were purged from the US.
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>>532539774
the sooner the fat retarded 56% niggers leave, the faster the eussr will fall.
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>>532539873
HURRDURR FUCKING FAGGOT LOVING NIGGER MURRICAN DEMONSTRATES HOW HOW RETARDELY STUPID HE REALLY IS.

go fuck a nigger, kike loving piece of shit
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>>532522893
Uh, more threats from the USA. That will help with diplomacy.
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>>532539866
The war was started to benefit the US and cement it again as the strongest power after the leftoids almost destroyed the US.
Iran was done to push back China, the propaganda that this all is somehow because of Israel is EXACTLY what the globohomo kikes want you to think. They are weaponizing your hate against you, they want you to hate the US and support the EU elites so they can get back in power in the US and continue the degradation of whitedom.
WAKE UP DUMB NIGGER.
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>>532539948
your "country" could disappear tomorrow and noone would notice lmao you're completely irrelevant
oh the US is going to leave NATO? not to worry! Sovlakia will pick up the slack! lmao
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>>532539896
Wrong, this isnt the US that was before. ((They)) lost control of the US which is why they are so violently against it.
You push the US out and you take away our strongest position to end the globohomo jew, we FINALLY got the strongest nation on the planet to be right wing again, if we miss this chance its over.
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>>532540009
You act like Germany is in a position of power. Didn't your country just deny every fighting age male the ability to leave the country?
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>>532540129
>we FINALLY got the strongest nation on the planet to be right wing again,

wat ?
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>>532522893
kvetching intensifies
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>>532540058
oh so you are the nigger the other fat ass retard is going to fuck, good go lube up your ass, faggot
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>>532540290
i'm sure he's talking about Sovlakia lmao
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>>532522893
Amerigolems are crashing out and seething. They took the war crimes of Nazis and made them maximally cringe and pathetic.
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>>532540244
Who cares ? Do you know about the German military and its state, or what they actually bought with the money they pumped into the military ? It's all a scam. And the USA already ruined Germany with its actions. They can take their threats and shove them up their ass. Short of actual military action against us they've already ruined everything.
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>>532539069
Your products are just garbage. Your food does not neet EU safety standards
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>>532540290
Uh jeez must I go to the beginning?
Pre-Trump we were all in a state of constant leftoid antiwhite spam, you remember or have you forgotten? They were so close to literally having shitskin death squads against white people both in the US and the EU.
Well they failed in the US and everything all of us prayed for has finally happened, we broke the hold globohomo has on the US. They are still in the EU however and as such we must use the US and help them destroy the EUSSR. If the peoples of Europe cant see that their enemy is in Brussels we are all fucked and everything that was fought for so hard will be lost forever. We will go back to leftoid globohomo white hate and they will probably finish us this time.
REMEMBER WHO WE FOUGHT AGAINST IN BIDEN TIMES, PEOPLE FORGET TOO EASILY, THOSE NIGGERS AND THEIR LEFTOVERS ARE STILL ALIVE IN THE EU.
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>>532540352
>i'm sure he's talking about Sovlakia lmao

well he certainly isnt taking about the jewsa, you useless waste of space
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>>532540012
>The war was started to benefit the US and cement it again as the strongest power
It's not working. We're being humiliated on the global stage.
>Iran was done to push back China
It's not working. China is happy to pay a toll for gas.

This is some really tortured logic. Why should I believe you instead of seeing that Trump and Bibi both wanted this war. Neither have mentioned "pushing back on China" or "cementing strength." They've said it's about Iran. All evidence, from Trump's personal relationship with Bibi, to literally all messaging about the war's goals, has been either weird Christian nationalist shit or... making Iran no longer a threat to Israel.

If it's about China, you would have thought that Trump (never one to play coy about things) would have said so. You would think, if this is about China, that Trump would want the Strait to stay closed instead of open. Instead, he's humiliating himself with his tantrum Twitter posts.

Doesn't pass the smell test, sorry.
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>>532540572
if we can't sell our garbage there, you can't sell yours here. pretty simple concept, Pieder
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>>532538814

Still retarded to start a war without consulting your allies or considering how the disruption in global trade would affect them then get butt blasted when they aren't happy about it and don't join in. America is a loose cannon under King Netanyahu and his court jester Trump
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>>532540585
>we broke the hold globohomo has on the US.
you didnt do shit, unless you are willing to admit your a cia glowingstrongly nigger

but the us is not right wing, it is a client state of jews, and loves niggers.
so, no you are full of shit, which makes you a mutt POS, and you can go back into your masturbation shithole, while trump and his jews makes another full diaper
smells like murrica
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>>532540572
>Your food does not neet EU safety standards

because its not even food, its just chemicals to make niggers nig and make white into gay turds
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>>532536972
You don't see alot of Luxembourg flags on /pol/.
I feel like I found a shiny pokemon.
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>>532523470
It will never go back to normal. Europe is completely lost. Fuck you worthless pussies anyway. Fiki fiki yourselves into oblivion.
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>>532540708
>If it's about China, you would have thought that Trump (never one to play coy about things) would have said so.
Lol no. He is literally known for spreading dissinfo on purpose to confuse the enemy. Besides Trump actually even said before all of this that the main enemy the US has is China. Everything the US does nowadays is to detter China, Greenland push was for China, Iran is for China, Venezuella and latin america is to kick China out of there, destroying the EU elites is also to stop China from taking them as those leftoid faggots love China.
Why do you think Trump is so favorable to Putin and Russians? Sure he tells you because he doesnt care about that Ukraine war but in fact its because taking Russia from China would be a big victory for the US.
The single greatest rival the US has now is China, everything else is secondary and Trump knows it as does his cabinet.
The US is winning in Iran, you already won. The mudslimes are having final twitches before their corpse dies but believe me it's over and your reputation? Its never been better. People actually fear you again, you were a laughing stock in Biden times.
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>>532522893
>We are not going to forget.
They forgot about the USS Liberty pretty quick. I wouldn't worry about it.
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>>532524130
None of your business, faggot.
Now go coddle your sister’s rapist like a good little kraut.
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>>532530370
His people are into it.
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>>532540770
This website has influced the US election heavily weather you like to admit it or not so yes, WE did push globohomo out of the US. The US isnt a jew client state, Israel is the client state of the US but I am tired of rewritting your brain from the propaganda that was shoved in it.
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>>532523351
Make your opponent think you are going left, and the go right.
Have you never watched football, or tennis...?
Why make it hard for yourself by announcing your moves several times a day?
Biden said nothing for two months straight, and didn't do much either.
Trump said in election speeches he would give Iran hell if they did something stupid. He repeated the message in January, warned of dire consequences if they were taking out their incompetence on civilians, but they did...
Now they have lost a bunch of their top leadership, air force, navy, artillery, arms production facilities, and they still fire off their dwindling fireworks supply.
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>>532527383
Kek. Now give me the stats about how wonderful you are.
Europeans really are the most pathetic people on earth.
Remember when you come begging for help- no.
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>>532522893
The problem with this war is that it's not winnable.

Winning for Iran is creating enough risk that normal commerce can't proceed in the GCC countries.

Winning for the US is eliminating all of the risk to GCC countries and vulnerable tankers transiting the SoH.

That isn't possible. Even if Iran becomes a failed state, they can still attack tankers. Trump is a moron. He ruined his presidency and betrayed all of his supporters.
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>>532541187
>literally known for spreading dissinfo on purpose to confuse the enemy
That's a very creative way of saying "lying" and "talking out of his ass." Maybe there's a language barrier here, or a cultural disconnect. You might not be able to clock Trump for who and what he actually is because the way he expresses these things is coded in American social mores.

Trump is not a bright guy. He's not a controlled or calculating person. There is nothing in his documented life history which suggests either. His life expresses, frankly, a rich kid who grew up into the archetype of a NYC conman. He is a master at one thing, which is conning people and manipulating their perception of him.

You might think, maybe he's conning Iran. He isn't. This war has gone exactly how the exact same advisors Trump constantly ignores warned him it would. The Strait is closed, and the only possible way to open it militarily is by ground invasion. This ground invasion is projected -- by the same people who have predicted everything which has already played out -- to be immensely costly.

The con Trump is running is on the American people. He is conning them into believing he has a plan, that everything is okay, that he's got it all under control. The facts on the ground are that the Iranian regime is more entrenched than ever. We chose to start this war at the precise low ebb of Iranian civilian willingness to overthrow the regime (35k of them were just murdered by that government). Additionally, in our opening strikes, we killed essentially the entire old administration. Then, we killed the second-stringers. Those who remain are the people too bloodthirsty and zealous even for the old administration. Those are the people now in control of Iran, and they're not going to let go.

And China? Iran is taking payments in RMB for their toll. Nations are now quietly buying and selling 20% of the world's oil supply at firesale prices in RMB. Some anti-China play.
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>>532541752
>That's a very creative way of saying "lying" and "talking out of his ass.
>The con Trump is running is on the American people.
Are you stupid or a leftoid globohomo kike? Willing to bet its the latter as you seem to be seething a lot.
You failed kikeboi, your hold on the US is broken and your roach rats will be hunted and banished from the EU aswell.
There will be no peace until globohomo leftism is erradicated from Earth.
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>>532539429
>If you had ever experienced even the slightest fucking taste of what it is you're agitating for, you'd sing a different tune.
Thats fair, and I don't want ground troops or an invasion. I am no fan of war but sometimes it is necessary.
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I mean, you don't really need French air bases when you already have Bulgarian ones. They're closer to the middle east too.
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>>532541751
>Even if Iran becomes a failed state, they can still attack tankers.
I think you overestimate the amount of pain the Iranians are going to take here. The real war on the Iranian state hasn't even begun yet. This is a winnable war.
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>>532541991
I'm neither. I'm a former infantryman who spent years of his life (and then a decade afterwards) fighting the last ME expeditionary war and its consequences. What you're misidentifying is skepticism -- the kind of skepticism that may only come from directly experiencing the results of pointless American wars.

I can see you're deep into whatever it is that's taken you. I can tell you as someone who investigates these issues in good faith and, frankly, WAY too fucking much to be healthy, that your idea of DJT is wrong. If your worldview requires him to be something other than what he actually is, your worldview is likely wrong, too.
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>>532523032
> IF Newsome wins
That’s a pretty big stretch. My wife is British (permanent US resident) and was a hardcore Trump supporter during the elections. She still doesn’t comprehend the enormity of the U.S. defense commitment to Europe post WW2; in terms of GDP. What she has noticed is how many hours per week that the typical American works versus the typical European. The piece that she’s still unable to connect is that the cozy lifestyle enjoyed by the Euros over the past 60 or years, for those is the West is a result of the U.S. essentially footing the bill for European defense. Yes, the U.S. wanted hegemony. Yes, the U.S. abused power in various regions at various times over this period. The point is the U.S., and western civilization as a whole, are in steep and rapid decline. Enjoy the crash or mourn what once was a great place to live; just accept the reality that us/ western hegemony is in the past. I just hope that we fare, historically, as well as the UK in our decline. Giving up any claim of control of the Hormuz Straights was one of the smarter things that POTUS has done in the Middle East imo.
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>>532541308
So influential that they took over the site, and now 80% of the posts are done by very desperate leftist retards with their seth rogen levels of potty "humor"
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>>532523032
>since people aren't happy with what conservatives are doing, clearly that means they're going more left
Lol, the next 3 years are going to be hilarious
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>>532542308
Well then sorry mate but you're not thar birght. This all goes beyond your "no more wars" bullshit and beyond the american people, this a global battle against evil forces that want white people and our civilizations dead. Its not just about you, it never was, its about all of us.
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>>532542744
Yes our website is under attack now, why do you think that is? They saw a threat and they are sending all their goons to ruin /pol/.
The fact you are presenting just proves my point.



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