America has been overtaken by a bunch of religious retards. These people don't believe in science or the truth, just their magical sky daddy and fairy tales. Atheism needs to make a comeback.
I was raised catholic, then I watched this video in 2006 when I was 13 years old. This single argument he posed turned me into an atheist. To this day I don't understand how people believe in any god considering the premise for believing can be so easily dismantled by a very simple logical argument.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mmskXXetcg
>>532757364Correct. There is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>532757364>has been overtaken
>>532757835Show us your face of atheism.
>>532758110>AsimovAnd by ignorance, he means religion, tradition, morality and aiming nukes at the poor innocent USSR.
>>532758260(You)
>>532757978You seem extremely excited about not existing.Why is that?
>>532758260Asimov changed his views when he was about to die, he died hating the people who liked him
i'm an atheist and the new atheism era was kino af. but they had too much libtard spirit and vulnerable to kike subversion which eventually lead to return to religion larp among the zoomers.
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no, they had an obvious, visible blind spot, in that they refused to recognize religious sentiment coming back from under the rug in all of those post-christian secular ideologies that also attack reality based on their own progressive eschatologies, unquestionable pseudo-metaphysical claims and moral absolutism, the very same woke rabble they refuse to denounce if not super timidlynature abhors a vacuum, religion never went anywhere, an old heresy of an heresy of christianity was replaced by another more integrated in the secular liberal dominant social order that these clowns champion
Why did most of the atheist's crowd adopt wokism as their religion?
>>532759065The intellectual framework pushed by those guys makes you immune to many forms of retardation including conspiratorial thinking and wokeism. In fact, Dawkins and Harris have been pushing against retarded wokeism way before it was popular to do so, before the term "woke" was even used to describe it.Besides, they never sold you on a religion or a way you should live your life. If the cattle need something to replace religion and fill this supposed vacuum you talk about, something to believe blindly and uncritically, that's their problem.
>>532757364Why does the Mochael Aquino phenotype visibly appear evil?
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>>532757364The Fedora psy op was too successfu. A little cringe distracted us from what truly awful, delusional goys Evangelical leaders are.
>>532757364I totally agree.
>>532757835In each and every conversation I have had in my life where I brought up his point, the religious people have simply stopped responding. Every single time. One simple little point defeats all religion/unifies its practice as instinct. They cannot deal with it intellectually so they simply refuse to try.
>>532757364Mutt problemsAnd yes our achmeds will get it too soon.
>>532758652>>532760292Lmao more than nine tenths of atheists are leftist extremists. If that was a race we'd have them in camps.Basic pattern recognition annihilated the atheist movement.Now all the old atheist fags are milling about like wounded animals squatting in shallow water saying "I don't understand how everything went so wrong" like they weren't the vanguard of every single form of degeneracy who's fanaticism outstripped even the jews.
>>532760517OP will never be a woman
>>532760517Id rather have fags than $300 oil How is homosexuality important to you? I don't really interact with it in my life
>>532760611>A little cringe and an exponentially higher rate of voting in lockstep with jews than even the most corrupted Christian denominations
>>532758522literally because muh dick.these perverts are willing to throw thousands of years of history and culture into the trash so they can have no moral dilemma with the dranfed shit they do with their tiny peckers
>>532760751Now lets practice pattern recognition on jesus freaks.. mmmm ... mmhmmmm.. ..Not looking good folks
>>532757364Thet tried to warn you.
>>532760812Your mommy and daddy stole half your dick and now you're coping. That's really sad but don't involve sexually healthy people in your Islamo-Judaic neurosis.
>>532760517Gays aren't starting World War III for Zion and the RaptureI literally don't give a shit
>>532760812Open a book retard
>>532760783>Just make me comfy while you annihilate my race and my culture around me, but when it's my turn to be evicerated I WILL SCREAMAtheism's death in one sentiment.>Why is it importantBecause all forms of degeneracy are both convergent and infinitely expanding until arrested by extreme and consistent violence.How high do you want the rate of homosexuality to be? Double what it is now? How about triple? How high does it have to get before an atheist is happy with the amount of parasite riddled HIV pedos voting in his neighborhood?
>>532760837Ok let's actually look at those statistics issue by issue compared to atheists, what do you have?Would you like to compare support for immigration per capita?How about support for interracial marriage? Where would you like to start?
>>532760972This. Couldn't care less at this point.
>>532760517There's literally nothing wrong with being homosexuality
>>532761027But Jews are trying to annihilate my race, not gay peopleBtw the "race" thing....you lost, it's over, the world isn't that way anymore. It isn't a concern. The future you want isn't ever going to arrive by any means. You must be a successful guy. There are just so many of you nigger things here pretending to be white. Jesus.
>>532761027>until arrested by extreme and consistent violence.What are you waiting for?
>>532757364The "New Atheists" (the ones still alive) are side by side with the "religious retards" on the question of defending Israel.
>>532760787>exponentially higher rate of voting in lockstep with jewsAtheists vote republican?
>>532757364The religious corruption of the right-wing of politics was orchestrated by Israel to be a base of unconditional support.
>>532761713I do
>>532761645>But Jews are trying to annihilate my raceAnd evangelical christians are helping. Meanwhile islamic theocracy wants to nuke all infidels. What is the common thread here you think?
>>532757835>>532760695>Can't articulate what "point" they speak ofYeah not clicking your video
>>532762059It's a one minute video.
>>532762150My data is worth more to me than your intellectual laziness
>>532757364I'm an atheist, I still believe the prospect of reducing other people's beliefs to "skydaddy" is the same outcome as a religion treating the atheistic belief as heretical. If you are so deeply worried about things being overtaken to the point your own pathetic ideal doesn't hold the rest of the globe, why hasn't pure empirical evidence been enough to keep whoever is irrational under your arm? The simple answer is that you condemn yourselves to treat the other ideal as simply having no proper values at all, nothing to learn from, no effect to consider...But just as the Christian can't even speak of the weather without divine intervention, retard-science wants to replace the process of anything with its empirical atomism. Just like how psychiatry reduces mental illness to mere neurological processes, just like how Wittgenstein reduces everything to language games, just like how anyone who claims anything with a lack thereof of their own "truth" is to be rejected; truth isn't subjective, but so what for those who don't listen? You make it super easy to forget that not everyone functions out of the principle of truth. You faggots are so focused on proooooving yourselves to everyone else that (You) are the ones who have lost track of reality too.But surely prioritizing science above everything else doesn't produce this same magnitude of ignorance as a Christian would give, right? Hell, even the Catholic tradition studies demons and progressive culture to understand their enemy better. Retard science is genuinely worse for not putting any effort to devise a subjective psychology, like an institution giving a dishonest study. Look at all of this effort! Thank Dawkins, nigger.
>>532757364You lost, tranny.
>>532762303But I'm worth the time it took you to write this post, I guess.
>>532762411He can't type out his magical pointGo shill your grift somewhere else
>>532762481Keep replying, but be sure to track the downloaded data from watching this thread, soon it could equal the bandwidth you'd spend watching the video.
>>532757364Atheists were always the peak of intelligence
>>532761623>There's literally nothing wrong with being homosexualityIt's gay to be homosexual, you retarded faggot.
Yeah pretty much.Can anyone say that religion being in politics has had ANY positive effect of any kind? What does that tell you?
>>532762637>Can't make arguments for himself demands you give jewtube ratings insteadConcession accepted
>>532760812What in the fuck are you babbling about?You're excited about the prospect of non-existence for eternity because of your dick?Are you on drugs, son?
>>532757364>The New Atheists were right about everything>OP's entire post>LITERALLY>ONLY>(((opinion)))did we have any proof.. or?no?no proof anything CLOSE to this has happened?wowWOWkikes on suicide watch
>>532757364Your idol folded when he realized he's going to be surrounded by muslims. 2018 if I remember correctly.So all religions are nonsensical for him but at the same time it's better to be an atheist grifter in a country with Christian majority.What a fucking parasite.
>>532757835Agnostic win btw>What if you're wrongWell I'm less likely to be wrong if I believe in a creator power and I strive to be a good person, feels like a pretty large net.
>>532757364This guy describes himself as a "cultural christian" now. Atheist xisters, did we win?
>>532757835I don't see this as a life changing video senpai. Plenty of people convert to Christianity who weren't raised in that environment. That's how Christianity spread in the first place. They chose it not because they were raised in it at a particular point in time but because they saw value in its message and the change it brought to their life was worthwhile. I mean if you're happier as an atheist now then you were as a catholic than more power to you, but I ain't getting the transformation you are.
>>532766123>they saw value in its messageAtheists tend to overlook this point of value in Christianity. Life back then sucked so much ass that it's no wonder the deities of antiquity were depicted as bloodthirsty, even the old testament God didn't escape from this. Regardless, the moment someone said 'maybe whatever put us here actually does have good intentions' it stuck, and wound up spreading a widely accepted notion of morality, twisted as some things may look from a modernized perspective.
>>532760292> and wokeism. In fact, Dawkins and Harris have been pushing against retarded wokeism way before it was popular to do so, before the term "woke" was even used to describe itWokeism was literally created by new atheism
>>532757364>America has been overtaken by a bunch of religious retardsSeparation of church and state was a mistake.
>>532757364Atheists are wrong about the most fundamental question: the Jews.Guess which is the only religion atheists look favorably upon? Judaism. An anon posted some numbers yesterday.And guess which religion has the most positive view of atheists? Yes, Judaism.The retarded evangelicals surrounding Trump are Kabbalistic Jews. All that talk about the return of the Messiah is because, in Kabbalah mysticism, the return of Jews to Israel will reunite part of the original "power" of creation and trigger the coming of the Messiah.Jewish rabbis have convinced some retards, mainly Protestants and evangelicals, that the Messiah is Jesus, but in the Jewish mystical view, the one who will come is actually what Christians understand as the Antichrist.
>>532760517Fags do affect our lives since they turn out culture into hideous abominations, corrupt human reproductive/development incentives which is integral to a well run society based upon said continued generations, force non-participants to submit to behavioural regulations imposed upon the state or even workplace, corrupt institutions like academia to force lies like nature being the sole mechanism of cause and downplay the affects of nuture (as proven by prison gays) etc. In a vacuum, gays might be ok, but we live in a society (tm) that needs to be maintained and cared for the rest of us. If gays, trannies, and other sexual degenerates don't limit their hubric ruinous excesses, they will be dealt with via the public, private sector, and even among the general populace. The honeymoon period grows thinner.
>>532762059It's literally just, >What if you're wrong? Every religious person already has a lot of practice denying the existence of false gods. Every religious person is already nearly an atheist! After all, there are 10,000 gods, and most religious people already do not believe in 9,999 of them! What's one more false god, besides an admission of personal fallibility? Despite what Christians say about, >We're all sinners, I am a stupid sinner, only through Jesus am I savedChristians are DEEPLY uncomfortable with the idea of being wrong. Their actions belie their beliefs: they aren't humble, they are arrogant. They don't believe themselves to be bad people constantly struggling to be good, they see themselves as generally good people who occasionally lapse. Such a person cannot readily admit intellectual fault.
>>532757364it is ultimately people trying to mimick the biblical god because hes supposedly the greatest thing. free will is basically an amalgamated form of gods will because people believe they have so much autonomy that its equivalent to being god. simultaneously all the bad shit in our philosophy could happen to any other. western nations have slave mentality from financialization and welfare. they are literally slaving for dsygenic minorities. the most leisure people dont work at all or even earned it. if people realized that nature takes priority over your autonomy you would act on your intuition more as that doesn't come from your "free" will
>>532766563>Wokeism was literally created by new atheismBullshit, it was created by kikes to fight against White people.
>>532767414We know we're not wrong, kike. That's the difference, you jeet
>>532767309Christcucks need to stop projecting their jew-love and submission on atheists. It's christcucks who love jews so much, not atheist.
>>532767811Atheist just love the academic jew not the religious jew
>>532758110Thomas Sowell has already done all the work of debunking this intellectual’s presumption that, in a democracy, his opinion should count for more than that of the guy who’s plowing the fields, or fixing cars, or painting walls, or patrolling the streets.
Sky is the daddy
Atheist complain about religious people and then have zero children
>>532757364Atheisms biggest problem is it is equally as retarded as religion. Only agnostics have integrity.
>>532757364As many others have pointed out. Atheism caused a power vacuum from destroying Christianity. This led to Islam, Jews, Hedonism, and Hindus expanding their influence. With greater influence, jews looked upon the weakened Christian denominations and started backing/grooming those that were more pro jewish. The winners tended to be dispensationalist evangelicals and anyone who would be zionist. This is in part why they were able to turn formerly less zionist christian country into such an unprecedented golem within the right. Atheists in contrast failed like all previous movements that promote a cult of reason. As the French and Russian Revolutions, they descend into hedonism and amoral cruelties until it spirals the system into ruin. They take the societal structure that Christianity brought to people's lives as givens and lament in surprise when it all comes undone. That's not to say religion is an absolute requirement for a functional and respectable society. But it is to say that the reddit atheist technocratic progressive/commies will never be able to deliver us to that alternative, nor is it worth the sacrifice. We've had only a couple decades of this shattering of the cathedral and it has virtually permanently ruined the entire western world in ways that will likely never be brought back barring extreme government policies. To be governed by a Christian is a far better fate than being governed by an amoral atheist or in-grouped jew and all the horrors they'll bring down upon everything your forefathers built.
>>532768375Yeah religious people "have children" then sacrifice them lmao
>>532769004Kys
>>532757364New atheists didn’t critique Jewish control of the US govt. They claimed that evangelical Christians control foreign policy, without any good evidence. Today ppl will point to Hegseth and say here is an evangelical Christian who is using his govt position to promote his Christian Zionist eschatology. This is nonsense. First no one has a glimpse into hegseths mind or understands his motivations. Second, Jews may claim to be Americans but clearly act in their own self interest. It’s not a question of no true Scotsman, it’s a matter of identifying who’s wearing a mask and deceiving. Hegseth seems to be motivated by ambition, money and success and less so religious belief (assuming he’s sincere). I sincerely believe he’s a psychopath, not unlike so many who rise in politics.
>>532758522Because it's pathetic to believe in a lie just because it makes you feel good.
>>532758588The pedophile?
>WE'RE SO BACK BROS
>>532757364...Right, the democratic guys exterminating the literal islamic theocrats are the problematically religious ones.
>>532769004I dunno. Vaguely buddhist secularism like Asia makes me a lot less bullish on the necessity of Christianity for all the things trads say it does, especially given how much more trad and conservative Asia is in practice.
>>532760517There is really no argument against homosexuality except that it's yucky yucky if you're straight.
>>532772311Nobody minds buddhism but the reason the islamofaggits prefer it is because it never managed to meaningfully oppose islam.And not for lack of wanting to.
>>532766123>Christianity spread because its message is so perfect and life-changing>war, politics, tribalism, and the craving for power had nothing to do with itwew lad
>>532757364Reminder this faggot is literally too afraid to insult Islam and op is a brown and gay
>>532767898Holy shit a talking monkey
>>532772338You are forgetting the diseases it spreads, as well as the way their call for "equality" in marriage dilutes the effectiveness of legal marriage as a means of promoting natural procreation in a populace.Neither are make it or break it things but there are certainly valid arguments to be made both ways.
>>532772338There are a lot of reasonable public health reasons to discourage anal sex and promiscuity, but virginity fetishism has led to more sodomy in some circumstances (and more STDs among the promiscuous).But the double standard surrounding lesbianism and the technical virginity thing are to me reasons why Christian objections to homosexuality are doomed to failure.>>532772414What are you talking about? Buddhists repeatedly successfully ethnically cleansed Muslims out of Southeast Asia. They have a better track record than Christianity on this.
>>532772414Yeah except those rohingya you used to hear about?
>>532766520Mind you, the "message of Christianity" was just whatever the visiting missionaries told you it was. Centuries ago most people couldn't read. Often people were duped into converting into Christianity, for example, by telling them that doing so could miraculously save their dying relative.In India, Christians are derogatorily called "rice bag converts" which comes from a history of Christian missionaries converting Hindus to Christianity by simply offering poor people food (a bag of rice).
>>532772593You could say the same about not wearing a face mask on the train, Asians can do it. I'm not bothered by gays and I don't think any significant percentage of my tax money goes towards monkeypox treatments broDon't give a shit about your marriage argument, what does that even mean? How about we have affordable housing for young couples instead? Gays are such a non fucking factor in that
>>532772635Christianity literally conquered the world through European colonialism, admittedly it foolishly spared islam but it has repeatedly demonstrated absolute superiority and dominance over it.>>532772650Literally a local nothingburger.
>>532757364Atheists are just jews, the religious "retards" you speak of are also jews. Everyone bad is jews
>>532772593>You are forgetting the diseases it spreadsOnly hits the ones who do it, so why do you care? If you're arguing that bisexual or closeted gay men spread it to unknowing women, that's all the more reason to normalize homosexuality. If it weren't so taboo, no one would have to sneak around - just let fags fag.>dilutes the effectiveness of legal marriage as a means of promoting natural procreation in a populacePant's on head retard take. The ONLY thing stopping procreation is the financial hellscape capitalism has brought us. Who the fuck can afford to raise a family properly in the West nowadays?
>>532772593>>532772635Most gay people actually don't engage in anal sex on a regular basis.
>>532772793European Christianity conquered the world through European technological dominance. Maybe the arms race of the Wars of Religion was necessary for that, but that's debatable.And Southeast Asian Buddhists kicked out Muslims when Europeans couldn't even kick them out of the Balkans.
>>532757835>click on the video>immediately brings up the spaghetti monsterLmao. How did anyone take that faggot seriously? Its fun seeing that retard seethe on twitter about the trannies he helped created. Thats his legacy now.
>>532772781Forgetting AIDS are we?But good that you mention monkeypox too, a reminder that they serve as an ongoing incubator for interesting diseases.So glad to see you unravel yourself as you unintentionally admit you understand jackshit. Besides there's hardly a shortagr of housing - there's an overabundance of artificial demand by unwelcome "migrants"; we haven't had natural growth in decades.And you know what would help with that?Benefitting married fertile couples so that they could buy that houee you mentioned.Rather than having fags siphon off funds meant for that in the name of "equality".It's really just a matter of being realistic about marriage: It is a de facto procreation contract.The rest of all things involved in it do not need the bureaucracy.
>>532757364yeah and they are called jewslet's see atheists say a fucking peep about it
>>532772699It was more like you converted to Christianity first and *then* you learned the gospel when you showed up to church every Sunday to collect your bag of rice.
>>532757835I considered converting to Catholic. Did 2 or 3 months of Catechism. Actually looked into why Catholics do the whole sex for procreation only, no birth control methods. 1 Cardinal convinced the Pope to write Humanae Vitae and overturn the commission majority report with the theological receipts on why you can have sex and not make a baby. Near 700 theologians immediately wrote in opposition of HV, several Diocese flat out ignored it. All this to say that I just don't think the institutions make sense to have anymore. Now we're finding out eggs choose the sperm? So much for that Orthodox "holy seed needs to be tilled in the field" argument
>>532772907Indeed? Bisexuals don't exist now? AIDS cannot spread beyond gays?>Muh capitalism If it were capitalism housing prices would have long since collapsed as there has been no genuine population growth (and thus genuine demand growth) in decadesand all of the immigrants are broke.Ergo it is the subversion of capitalism that is the issue.
>>532757835How many parents did you have? Because unless the real subconscious argument was, "This well spoken man is my substitute dad", then you fell for a piss poor argument. "My parents gave me a cruise ticket to Oahu. But Jim and Bob have different tickets from there parents, and THEY say they are tickets to Oahu. Because of this apparent uncertainty, I should discard my ticket."You see how stupid that sounds when it's something material? You wouldn't give up that easily. You'd hold that ticket til you looked at your friends tickets, see if the ship is legit, see what the captain is like and does he even intend to go to Hawaii? In fact if you became certain that your friends tickets were likely to take them to Ohio instead, you might even want to help them convert their tickets.Meanwhile Dawkins is here with no ticket at all. In fact this destination is infinitely MORE valuable than Hawaii, so you should hold on to that ticket even tighter.
>>532760292>. In fact, Dawkins and Harris have been pushing against retarded wokeismIsn't Harris a raging Zionist? He's all about muh facts and logic then he becomes an uncritical cult like adherent to HIS preferred ideology
>>532760292>If the cattle need something to replace religion and fill this supposed vacuum you talk about, something to believe blindly and uncritically, that's their problem.It's all of our problem, actually, because liberals replace religion with modern progressivism.I don't think you get that religiousness is innate, the only difference being, where is that religiosity geared towards?
>>532772913I would love for that to matter but the nature of these things is that it has to go wrong only once.>>532772972Oh definitely, it fostered the technologicaldominance required for it but as the present frequently reminds us there's a reason neither the "natives" nor the sandniggers developed said superiority. And that lies primarily in their culture, or in their faith in the case of sandniggers as their past has shown that they did once posess the spark of civilisation.Now they are relegated to fleeing the consequences of their faith and blaming everyone but themselves for it.
>>532772972>>532773362Also it's less "couldn't" when it was christians that kept saving the Balkan muslims.They are a very thankless religion thwt frequently falls flat on it face for claiming the victories and protection granted to it by ithers.
>>532772907>just let fags fag.If only they actually just kept it to them fucking each other. Sadly, they don't.
>>532773173>Indeed? Bisexuals don't exist now? AIDS cannot spread beyond gays?You may want to read my post more carefully, as that was addressed.>if it were capitalism housing prices would have long since collapsed as there has been no genuine population growth (and thus genuine demand growth) Housing prices aren’t driven by raw population, nitwit. They’re driven by capital, credit, and supply constraints. Prices are high because housing is treated like an investment, not just a place to live. Investors, landlords, and limited supply keep pushing prices up.If anything, prices staying high despite weak population growth proves my point: it’s speculation and CAPITAL driving the market, not basic demand.
>>532773314...What part about zionism would be comparably bad as wokeism amyway?Genuinely curious.No men pretending to be women, niggers in denial about their own stupidity nor muslims in denial about the corrosivity of their own faith.Then again obsessing over zionism has always been a left wing hobby so maybe there are genuine sensible arguments i am unfamiliar with.
I shit on the holy spirit desu
>>532760232They’re not really atheists, they’re anti-Christians.
>>532773173>AIDS cannot spread beyond gaysKinda. The transmission rates for PIV are very low, and oral is nearly impossible.For people not engaging in anal sex, filthy drug needles are a bigger transmission vector. It's mostly a disease transmitted by men having penetrative sex with men.
I'm not against religion, but it's pretty fucking obvious a lot of religious people are only religious because they lack the human capability for empathy and moral integrity. Like lizards, lashing out only in self interest.
>>532757364whatever
>>532773591Adressed? Hardly, these people do not keep track nor think to ask, neither the men mor the women, as that is simly not how such love works in practice.It's a little bit like those "MeToo!" delusions.Sure mate, supply and demand (core of capitalism) are totally irrelevant.Nevermind that the artificial demand (empowered through government spending) is precisely what is used to manipulate all that you mention to fabricate this "shortage".Penniless mogrants should and would have zero impact on housing demands were it not for the leftist migrant meddling.
It didn't bother me before. I don't give a shit if abortion is legal or not, I don't care if the money says "In god we trust"The unconditional love for Israel is where American christcuckery has reached a whole new level. It was always there slightly but it ramped up so much in the past 15 years.
>>532757835I don't know what argument Christianity has against it, though I assume they do, but as far as Islam is concerned you must be able to logically ascertain a god, and only one god, exists. This is *independent* of any revelation or guidance or upbringing. You don't have to believe in islam or christianity, but if you have belief in a god and actually take time to think you should be able to reason with yourself why there must be a creator.After that, for the specific practices you need revelation and guidance from god. In Islam we say the prophets are exactly those people that bring revelation from god and have been sent to every nation in history so most people don't have an excuse but if the message wasn't truly given to them then they'd be given a different test. Christianity also had their scores of religious men, not sure what you guys call them, after Jesus. Dawkins completely side stepped the question, weak desu. All atheist arguments seem to pretend like people of religion have never discussed or debated these topics and they're bringing up revolutionary counter points to religion.
>>532773046You'd never guess what countries have the most AIDS by far in Europe... and why..Besides "fags" are literally irrelevant, if you want to make a real difference euthanise the elderlyYou ever actually been to a hospital?Gays are a god damn scapegoat
>>532772338All so called atheists are faggots because they’re committed to eternal war against natural law aka God’s law. They must like to lose and be eternally angry because their cause is hopeless.
>>532757364Atheism is female narcissistic nihilism.https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/10/men-women-politics-gen-z-trump-harris-church-christianity-religion-gender-divide.html
>>532773965>jew fairy tales are natural lawAin't we should re-open those asylums and fill them with schizo christcucks
New Atheism was a Protestant heresy that assumed that metaphysic. The goblins leading it were filled with moral outrage and obsessed with "liberal values" but had nothing to base it on. If you are going to throw out Christianity, like some of the American Founders, you have to at least keep the deity to have a basis for equality.
>>532757835you are a materialst which is the default position these days, and that's why it's so easy to fall for the new wave of atheismbut if you are really truly curious and honest with yourself, you will find that it is impossible for "god" not to exist. and i don't mean the christian personal god because that one is obviously fictitious
>>532773727Oh good that you mention that, indeed sex ain't even necessary to spread the diseases that incubate among the fags.Not to mention that diseases can change and do not necessarily remain limited to just sexual transmission, herpes comes to mind but it might not be the best example.But the bottom line even in your own examples is unintentionally pretty clear: The disease argument holds water, no religion required.Doesn't need to convince you, it doesn't do it for me anyhow, but you do need to be honest with yourself about the pros and the cons of your stances.
>>532773591And capital concentration. >>532773907Yeah, Obama completely buckbroke the American religious right vis-a-vis Israel, and made them even more obsequious toward the country than during either Bush.>>532773929And if you look at Thailand's successful campaign against AIDS, it was secular and scientific, not muh Buddha in spite of Buddhism being the state religion.
>>532773099>Actually looked into why Catholics do the whole sex for procreation only, no birth control methods. 1 Cardinal convinced the Pope to write Humanae VitaeCardinal Ciappi should perhaps be nominated for sainthood based on that, in light of the destruction wrought in the Protestant churches since they allowed contraception to infect their doctrine. 1968 was a terrible year and the ruin of the Catholic Church was only just evaded. My Catholic father was alive then and a graduate in philosophy, he was one of a very few holdouts against the modernist onslaught. In those days it was VERY lonely to be based. Contraception is destruction of women and marriage. Bless Pope Paul for fighting it. And consider this anon. If you want our Church to be just like the world, why did you want to come here? If contraception is your bag, stay where you are and take whatever salvation the world offers you.
>>532774010Says the head case who wants to castrate boys and pretend he’s a woman by taking it up the ass.
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>>532774097Nah bro if just turn the entire western World into one big Oklahoma we'd all praise Jesus and sing hallelujah he has risen!!! He's a coming!!! The rapture!!!!
>>532774077>But the bottom line even in your own examples is unintentionally pretty clear: The disease argument holds water, no religion required.I'm not religious. I think STDs like AIDS are best treated like the secular public health issue they are.
>>532772164But enough about atheism.
>>532774165Your foreskin is literally mutilated and mine isn't hahahahahahaRetarded fucking golem hahaha
>>532773907It was way worse in the past, as the islam faggots like to draw hope from in their battle against Israel.The current generation just appreciates Israel for its anti islam rallying function, unintentionally and unwanted as though that may be for them.>>532773929The ones in denial of reality like you are.Only reason we got a grip on it is hecause we are honest with ourselves about the disease risks fags pose and act accordingly.This does not mean fags are not a disease risk.
>>532773283Dawkins argument there doesn't disprove God or any particular religion but he makes a fair point:Thousands of gods have been worshipped throughout human history. Why are you so sure you just happened to be born into a culture that worships the correct one?At the very least it should make you think about WHY you believe Christianity is true and other religions are false. And not just trust your family taught you the "correct" religion. Because that would be leaving it up to historical chance and the odds aren't in your favor.
>>532761645they would never try to annihilate you by promoting gay and degenerate ideology though just by doing evil things in Israel
>>532762731Einstein rejected atheism and admired Jesus.
>>532774129And now Catholic Europe has a lower fertility than Protestant ones and are experiencing a faster population collapse. Woops.
>>532774196Agreed, and limiting gay sex / being realistic about its drawbacks limits the rate at which we add new diseases for the public health to contend with.
>>532762731this is like when Jews give each other nobel prizes and say how smart they are.
>>532774253I'm coming to rape your bussy boy
>>532757364Every time I see those American diplomats trying to include Jesus and Christianity into their deranged rants about how we need to destroy the Middle East in the name of the lord I realize they are just the version of the lunatic Al-qaeda religious extremists in the POV of the Iranian people
>>532773882Supply and demand DO matter, but you’re ignoring what CAUSES them. Demand isn’t just “how many people exist.” It’s who can buy. All that’s driven by cheap credit, investor activity, and policy.And supply isn’t “natural,” it’s restricted by zoning, limited construction, profit incentives, ect. Blaming "mogrants” makes no sense as people without money don’t set prices. You knoiw what does? Capital, Investors, and scarcity.If prices stay high without big population growth, it means the market is being driven by speculation and constrained supply, which is EXACTLY how capitalism incentivizes it.
>>532774129Cardinal Ottaviano, not Ciapi. Modernist onslaught? So you're fine with unfettered immigration bypassing the Church's governing principals just because the Pope or Cardinal ordered it? Come on dude, contraception isn't my baggage, and I didn't expect the church to become worldly, my baggage is the patent ridiculousness of legalism within the Catholic church.
>>532757364If the new atheists can take a less supernatural stance on human genetics maybe they'd have a workable ideology
>>532774291pure midwit babble nonsense, first of all the very definition of God to Christianity is completely alien to the "Thousands of gods" dawkings only makes sense to the people he speaks to, the lazy intelectual too smart to examine his own beliefs
>>532774417Heh, unlikely as you are rather exposed to your far worse muslim pets. Attempting to conflate fear with justified disgust has always been a curious and entertaining cope from the left.In the case of muslims there is contempt added to the disgust.
>>532757364Deism should make a comeback.
>>532774559You're cute when you struggle
>>532774439"Cheap credit" fuck off faggot, that's literally the government buying houses for said penniless migrant leeches.You can keep trying to obfuscate shit 'till you die of old age but it doesn't change a damn thing that your side is the driving force behind these things you decry.Prices are not "set", they are created by your own actions.
>>532774559It is white male industrialists who run the EU and replace you out of greed for lower labor costs but also out of fear of you waking up and taking their power.
>>532774685Agreed, hence us joining in the mockery of muslims whenever Israel rapes them again.
>>532773922They are not intellectually curious or well read. There were theological discussions about all of this stuff in early Islam with serious arguments against revealed religion by Al-Rawandi in the 9th century. All of the atheist drivel is 1,000 years stale for Muslims.
>>532767967Christcucks fuck everything that moves, make kids they don't want, then proceed to abuse and rape them.
>>532757364HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
abrahamic religions need to go if we are to be free from the jews
>>532757364>Bait thread>1 post OP>Thread isn't political at all but mods keep it up anyway>Getting towards 200 repliesYou guys are all dumb faggots for falling for this shit. Do all of you realize how much of a stupid cock sucker you all are for keeping this gay thread alive?
>>532774489Then that's two cardinals. Why don't we argue like men, instead of like women who switch topics when one goes sour? You were saying contraception should have been allowed, I am saying that would have been spiritual death.
>>532774707Oohh someone's getting a little hot under the collar! Are your jimmies russled? Does it hurt to have your worldview challenged in a way you find hard to defend? Does it hurt your brain realizing that you fell hook, line, and sinker for the "mogrants" propaganda fed to you from the billionaires routinely fucking you in the ass?
>>532774738Oh please you brown faggot, the brown cultures keep fleeing the consequences of their own cultures (as they managed to stay in place just fine under our rule) but no it's totally the "industrialists" (in our eeindustrialised society!) that are to blame.Morons like you keep creating these overcomplicated Rube Goldberg machines just to pretend you are not the ones kicking yourselves in the ass just so you can blame others.And then, having wasted all your credibility, you wonder why you start losing to literal clowns like Trump.Or why people like me are content to just be entertained by watching him ruin all the messed your detestable delusions wrought.
>>532774977Hard to defend?All i see is you trying to sidestep the issue, sooner an indication that it is coming a little too easily perhaps.You can keep sticking your head in the sand but i ain't on the side that lost to Donald Trump twice and still refuses to reflect.
>>532773283It's a valid argument but obviously not perfect, but I was a teenager and it was enough to make me question my beliefs. I remain an atheist because the burden of proof was never mine and I remain unconvinced by all known theological claims.
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>>532757364>doesn't understand he's in the post-Christian post-post-Atheist age i.e. Islamngmi
>>532775294If the argumentation leaned on that that would be a valid defense, alas it does not.And thus serves as an excellent demonstration of my point regarding your attempted sidestepping.
>>532775101>All i see is you trying to sidestep the issueWhat issue? Immigration? Yeah, there absolutely are reforms that need to be made - the system is a mess. But here's where they got you: It's not the real issue. The issue that YOU are sidestepping - wealth inequality brought about by late-stage capitalism and the insane concentration of wealth in the hands of an oligarchy. THEY are the ones who convinced your easily manipulated ass that it was all the "mogrants" fault. And here you are, electing them. What a fucking useful idiot you are.
>>532775294Pic unrelated. Nice blurry shitpic, shitter.>>532774962Also true. Peace.
>>532757364Used to watch dawkins back in the day. Found most of his arguments to be extremely lukewarm and his debates likely scripted or consisting of average idiots picked out of a crowd. Remember him saying once on camera how he often goes out to dine with wealthy jews.
>>532775193The burden of proof may not be yours, but the burden of eternity is. Dawkins argument isn't valid. It isn't an argument at all. Faced with several choices, facing the question of which is correct, he has simply thrown up his hands and backed down. It's just intellectual cowardice. Meanwhile he has picked the null option, which is wrong by default. And has led another person to do the same.
>>532775419Nah, the consequences of migration that you stick your head in the sand about.It's always funny when lefties pretend to want to solve housing issues but think nobody notices them desperately trying to avoid theelephant in the room of the demand side of the market.No different with the climate issue, pretending we don't believe in it while the only thing we don't believe is their ingenuine efforts to solve it, thus necessitating adaptation and the strategic dilemmas that entails.>Muh muh muh capitalism!Oh please you commie faggot, just test your theories for once in your life; the soviets did and they belong to the graveyard of history, China did and rebranded everything except the name to survive.
>>532774876What is "nothingness for eternity"?
>>532774539>God to Christianity is completely alien to the "Thousands of gods"Christianity is not the only monotheistic religion in the world.
Anyway gotta go, remember to always tedt your hypotheses or you end up a religion-in-denial like communism.
>>532757364KYS
>>532775663>The burden of proof may not be yours, but the burden of eternity is.Argumentum ad metum. Classic.Anyway, I know better not to keep arguing over this. There's nothing to be gained for anyone, no one is changing their minds.
>>532757364at the end the stupid cristian motives for war, are dont believed by themselves, in the bottom they are satanist and mazons, cristianism is just a front
>>532775699>commie faggotDemocratic socialist. Not everything is black and white you drooling retard.>It's always funny when lefties pretend to want to solve housing issues but think nobody notices them desperately trying to avoid theelephant in the room of the demand side of the market.We literally covered this. Refer to my previous posts.By the way, YOUR "side" has the ball right now. How's that going for ya? Prices coming down? No new wars? No pedophiles running the government? Cheaper gas? My entire point was that the reason people aren't having kids is that our system has been fucking us for decades, and no one can afford shit. Now you got your guy in the White House, who blamed the scary brown people for everything and promised to get rid of them, only to deport LESS of them than the black president before him, and blow the whole world and economy up in the process.But you sure owned us libs! Fucking faggot.
>>532771595Point out where he's wrong.
>>532760812People have been retards for thousands of years so yes, throwing thousands of years of idiocy into trash means nothing.1)Nobody can come back from the dead so nobody knows what happens if you die, logical would be to compare it to sleeping as in "eternal sleep"2)You can't experience afterlife if you need a brain to perceive your surroundings. Living is acting according to your brain signals reacting to stimuli, that's why we fuck to feel good and run or fight back if we get hurt.You need a brain to see hear smell touch etc.
>>532774975>Why don't we argue like men, instead of like women who switch topics when one goes sour?I did not such topics. You simply ignored the premise of my initial post, and confused it for the complaint that I would not be able to use contraception. The reason I used HV as the example in my first post as explained in my second post is that the institution is promulgating teachings that are not theologically supported.
>>532775699Is it a stretch to suggest multi-billion transnational corporations lobby governments to enable immigration to lower their labor costs? What ethnicity do you suspect are the board members?
>>532776095Christianity is literally a Jewish doomsday cult.
>>532757364>America has been overtaken by a bunch of religious retardsIt's been overtaken by rich satanic jews, but go ahead and muddy the waters in hopes that the goys don't notice
>>532773671for once it actually might be that simple
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>>532774356My biggest problem with Christians as a social conservative is that they're pretty bad at preserving sensible conservative social norms, in part because a lot of their answers don't stand up to scientific scrutiny when there are empirical and functional reasons for things like why promiscuity is bad.State atheism in the Eastern Bloc preserved more conservative social norms better than Western Christians. Broadly secular or Buddhist with some syncretic elements Asian societies did the same. Who got hit really hard by a collapse in public morality quite early? The very Catholic Latin America.
>>532765863>now.He said that back in 2007 and 2008.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7136682.stm
>>532767414>What if you're wrong?If we're wrong, we lose nothing.If the others were right, I don't care.The Christian life is beautiful enough to cherish even if we "turned out to be wrong", and your idea depends on blind guessing.
>>532757364>magical sky daddyatheism (noun)athe·ism (ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm)1. a religion that creates their god in the exact image created by the true believer but castrates and makes impotent theirs2. the lamest yet most destructive religion of extremist collectivists of otherwise powerless and typically loveless miserables Related: atheist1. a religious zealot that worships an impotent and castrated god 2. an emotionally driven midwit that pretends they're smart by claiming they don't believe in the same anthropomorphic concepts as the true believer, usually for the purpose of mocking others in order to feel better about their own misery, yet doesn't understand that by mirror modeling the exact anthropomorphic concept of their nemesis they've merely castrated and made impotent their own version
>>532757364i agree atheism minus redditorschrist cucks are gay afthats generally how gen x grew up
>>532767718>>532780689It was literally created and exists to control people like you>why do you think they murdered the first person to translate it to common tongue?>btw the witch trials were against rich to take their stuff and split it up
>>532757835So Dawkins’s point is that people have believed in different gods throughout history, so that means being an atheist is correct? Huh? I don’t see the logical connection.
>>532761162How about support for Israel and Zionism?
>>532781666>digitsI'm not "controlled" at all by this faith. Ultimately, it's a set of principles I'd be glad to hold, even if it were wrong.
tldrThe problem with atheism is that people started worshipping science.What is more pathetic is faggots arguing about a dead kike on a stick.
>>532757835>what is reverse Pascal's Wagerso your spiritual understanding needle hasnt moved since you were 13?well.. thats better than christcucks. but still, i wouldnt want to be you.
>>532785567the picrel´s argument is also about countries
>>532785706its the exact same argument only in image form. how that leads you to no intelligent designer(s) whatsoever though is a completely new level of retardation
Atheists support>900 genders>men can get pregnant>take 40 vax shots for a non-lethal fluAnd atheists views on geopolitics is retarded>Atheists in 2005: ALL RELIGION CAUSES WARS!>Atheists in 2026: I SUPPORT ISRAEL IN THE CURRENT HOLY WAR
>>532757835Current Dawkins>supports Israel>identifies as a "Cultural Christian">realized that his "WE HAVE TOO MANY CHRISTIANS IN BRITAIN" completely backfired as now he hates all the Muslims and wants to go back to the "oppressive" 90s Christian UK
