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Expert are saying that the US will very likely agrees to Iran taxing ship exiting Hormuz as long as they denominate their payments in dollars
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I just want to suck cock.
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>>533012310
Jesus fuck just open new oil leases in Alaska. Given innovations in petrochemical science plus discoveries of new reserves, we have enough oil within our borders to be energy independent for a thousand years. Fuck this retarded middle east shithole.
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I wonder how many special ops dudes died in that desert for this.
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>>533012310
>The war will end
The war can't end now that most of the world hates kikes openly
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>>533012359
Hello there, yoUwU
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>>533012310
I'm so fucking tired of this. This gay shit didn't need to happen in the first place
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>>533012310
BEFORE TRUMP
iran did NOT control the Strait

BECAUSE OF TRUMP
Iran controls the Strait.

What a legacy.
Worst US President ever?
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>>533012310
US is not in the driver seat Israel is and they are not gonna stop
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if the US cedes any control of an important shipping lane, the US will have a severe recession because all of our stocks are priced at a huge premium assuming the US can protect the interests of its companies. if that is proven wrong then then s&p500 fair value is 50% lower
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>>533012520
>energy independence

Nobody in America gives a shit about this when they're all paying out the ass at the pump because the shareholders want money.
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>>533012310
what is happening?
we need spy reports
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>>533012520
Merilard discovers he’s an imperial empire
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>>533012689
It's so funny listening to MIGA faggots telling me this war was some sort of pre-emptive strike because the strait for was under threat.

Literally no one gave a shit about the strait of hormuz 2 months ago.
The amount of cope to justify this shit show is on a cultist level.
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>>533012520
>>533013009
It's not enough that we should win, others should lose
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>>533012783
https://youtu.be/spg58Glfz68?t=3796
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That'll be $2m in crypto
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>>533012310
The only way to win this is to blow up Israel. Then they will open the strait for good. We need to attack Israel. Simple as.
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>>533012544
The goal of the war was to help the Iranian regime fund its nuclear program.

It was always the point of MAGA (Make Aryan Gilgamesh an Ally), you lost, tranny.
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>>533012783
shut the fuck up nigger, the USA can literally print the worlds value, buy everyone's company and hold it with our military. Freedom of navigation effects lloyds of london, not how blackrock invests in the SnP dunce
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>>533017912
>can
Won't
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>>533012310
Biggest failure of foreign policy a president has had in several decades
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>>533018030
It's really hard to think of a bigger failure, ever. Vietnam killed more people but didn't fuck US power. This really does.
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Can China PLEASE donate a couple of nukes to Iran, so this retarded clown show ends?
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>>533018030
>>533018076
its not over, only the UK is a real loser here, because France not going to permit a toll and they have no risk with war logistics. France takes over EU, uk fully capitualtes, non nation, only city of london matters now. EU should be the one ready for war, if you know anything about history, macron is going fucking colonial the moment the USA leaves, kek. No way its actual europeans on this board that think Uk v France v Germany ever ended. Mark my words here.
The French will be going to war if Iran enforces a toll (ugunda bypasses the strait now to the indian sea) war is coming fellas, the stage has been set
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>>533018147
Xi has told you, the world and donald trump. Only taiwan matters, he has removed 2027 invasion from the table in efforts to advance trade talks. CHina is on team usa with freedom of the seas, it pains everyone to hear this
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>>533012310
The US will. Why won't NATO say otherwise?
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>>533018213
>[wall of text]
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Iran will have the chance to do the funniest thing ever.
>Denounce the Talmud for a 20% discount.
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>>533012310
Why though? America doesn't even need it
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>>533012310
fuck the dollar
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>>533012520
Funny how this problem didn't exist a little over a month ago. I wonder how this could have been avoided. Crazy.>>533012544
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>war ends with the US achieivng all its objectives and pushing europeans to buy oil from america
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>>533012310
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>>533018801
The US navy controls the seas so people can trade with dollars, Iran scored the biggest blow to the dollar in history
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i cant wait until biden is re-elected and welcomes chinese cars in america to beg china to get iran to lower the tolls
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drumpf destroyed the american automaker, thanks drumpf
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>>533015625
I'm down with that.
#blowupisrael
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>>533018801
only like 4% of hormussy oil goes to us. this doesn't change shit for us, the real problem for everyone is the global market being fucked.
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>>533012310
1Dcheckers baby
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>>533012520
>energy independent

This doesn't matter, it's just rhetoric for Sean Hannity tier boomers. Oil is a global market. If producers can export crude oil and make more money, they will. Are you going to put export restrictions on crude oil like communist regimes do? Why not just seize the oil companies and make them state-owned enterprises like Maduro while you're at it?
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>>533018820
Well done and saved
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>>533012310
> orange faggot made the whole situation worse

what a shocker!
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>>533012310
The $ being the world's currency is the only thing keeping the US alive.
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>>533012310
we don't listen to the experts
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>>533018886
the french dealt the hardest blow to USA you fucking ignoramous, and no, the USD hasnt taken a "blow" fucking retard.
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>>533019171
yeah so dont be part of the retards that think the USA has any interest in securing EU stability without it being hitched to LNG now. And oil controlled by communisnt jews from BiS you fucking idiot, theres a fucking war and no one on earth will allow Vlad to get even richer, the barrel should be 150+
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>>533018213
Holy fucking cope.
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>>533019856
you are a foreign invader that was subjugated by 20 thousand british. Your opinion means nothing and your keyboard has feces
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>>533019653
>and no, the USD hasnt taken a "blow" fucking retard.
You're an actual retarded person.
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>>533015625
That wouldn't work. Iran wants to be a regional power. They've been trying to export their revolution since it happened. Israel is just useful propaganda for them.
Not that we shouldn't do it.
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>>533012520

#1 Its europe and other areas of the globe that need the oil. Years of green bullshit have kept them dependent upon it.

#2 American is just the first vassal state of the empire. They don't let us be energy independent either. They need us to be dependent to be controllable.
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>>533018820
Dollah? You wanna Dollah exchange? Just come around to the back window, 1 yuan for yer dollah allright?
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>>533019523
It's really not. Foreigners holding US currency is worth about $10 billion a year to the US. It doesn't even cover a month of the defense budget. Xi's desire to buy the country out from under us is the real reason we've been able to maintain our trade deficit.
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>>533019912
t. /ptg/
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>>533012310
What use does Iran have for dollars? They are useless for them since any business account holding dollars can be frozen.
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>>533012310
But the ceasefire-talks ended without an agreement?
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>>533019171
Good idea.

Fuck them corps.
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>>533018213
France isn't doing anything. Europe stayed out and they will pay the toll.
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>>533012310
Sure, if the petrodollar collapses the US is effectively done, trump obviously realizes that - Iran should keep pushing though, effectively has all the cards here, and should come out of this conflict far stronger than they are going in.
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>>533020528
kek, retard. the Uk and USA ended a 330 year toll and you can get a direct quote from macron if you wreent a lazy nigger that says no toll is acceptable
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>>533020604
>be shitskin
>wipe ass with hand
think somehow usa having KSA,Venezuela, Texas and Canada somehow means the petrodollar is also at risk because of Asias and Eu strait.
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>>533012310
>Expert are saying
Yeah not gonna happen for it is written:
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf
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>>533020015
>Its europe and other areas of the globe that need the oil. Years of green bullshit have kept them dependent upon it.

Stupid fucking migger-nigger actually believed trumps lies. We buy the same amount of crude oil, that comes from hormuz.

Use ai, google or something first before you open your mouth and look stupid in front of everyone.
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>>533012310
>as long as they denominate their payments in dollars
Not going to happen.
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>>533015625
Should've done that when they said they were going to start this war.
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>>533020528
You are retarded if you think EU is the onlyone who is gonna pay.
>>533021067
See this
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>>533019171
For the US empire to be energy independent they would have to produce enough oil and fuel not just for its imperial core in the continental US but all of its allies and partners that are a part of its supply chains. This is exactly the problem the US is facing right now in Asia. Its allies and partners that are a part its supply chains there are crumbling from lack of fuel, fertilizers and other materials derived from oil and gas.
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>>533018076
>It's really hard to think of a bigger failure, ever.
Bush. It's the cause of the debt today.
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>>533018213
I didn't read anything you just wrote in your screeching wall of text.
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>>533019653
>the USD hasnt taken a "blow" fucking retard.
Down 3% against EUR and down 2% against GBP since the war started.
Down 7.5% against CNY since the 12-day war (1.5% since the start of this war).
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>>533020173
The Yen carry trade by itself is over $1 trillion, retard.
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>>533021508
the chinese devalue you utter double nigger
i cant remember a time in my life the pound wasnt the strongest currency, thats a uk problem. Trump is the wealthiest head of state on earth with usa sphere of influence, inflation has nothing to do with shitskins, jews and QE is unrelated to this conversation
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>>533021387
well you should have bc you just proof of my statement
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>>533021654
If a war is coming, it's because the rest of the world is coming to rape you for your resources.
And you'll lose that war. Miserably.
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>>533012520
Let me tell you a story where Bulgaria, exports cheap nuclear electricity and sells to the populace expensive WEF sponsored solar goytricity. Because of international trade. I think someonealready told you that. You room temp IQ nigger.
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>>533012520
That takes years
You think this can all be done in a month or two?
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>>533021894
norway cant fuel a war against russia and usa, you are a shackled continent now, sucks to suck
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>>533021654
You're way dumber than the average migger, are maybe some new breed or variation - an ubermigger.
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>>533022324
>norway cant fuel a war against russia and usa,
"finland cant win russia and usa so you better surrender now so tiny country better surrender surrender now vöööööööööööööö"
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>>533012520
You import 3.1T worth of goods while only exporting 18.T btw muttbro
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>>533012310
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2026-04-09/-huge-win-for-iran-if-holds-strait-handjani-video
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>>533022893
>18.T
1.8T
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>>533017912
cope
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>>533012689
Hmm and who did control the strait? Methinks OPEC did and along with that the oil price. whilst the petrodollar was the reason for all those US bases in the ME the age of oil is ending - not for a few decades but every year that passes it's decline increases until it will be worth less than dirt for the major uses.
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>>533012520
>Fuck this retarded middle east shithole.
Oy vey, that is very anti-semitic.
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>>533012310
This was part of the plan all along, make more money from the goiym.
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>>533023090
You are fucking stupid. There is oil in every product you buy, the streets you drive on, and in every electric car. Why is everyone here so fucking ignorant of the world they live in. This place is so fucking boring now.
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>>533023420
Shhhh don't tell them that fertilizer requires oil derived precursors.
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>>533012310
Looks like the tranny experts were wrong again
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>>533023557
We literally built our civilization on it and it's byproducts... It's not going anywhere any time soon unless we do.
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>the question is whether diplomats find a way of making that workable
Phew! God thing Trump is using highly experienced veteran diplomats from the state department and not, like, his retarded son in law or a fat hillbilly loser or anything,
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>>533021179
The US has fuck all for long term oil independence must less as a global marketplace. That's why fracking became a thing, squeezing a lemon.
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>>533023692
There are probably alternatives such as renewables on a global scale. I mean half the earth is always facing the sun, but that is anti-semitic.
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>>533023927
No because you aren't just transitioning energy you would be transitioning everything. Solar panels are made with oil, wind turbines have oil in them, hydro dams need oil to run, batteries have oil in them... Oh and every fucking plant used to manufacture everything needs oil to run. It's not feasible any time soon.... Just create a new everything! Good luck. I'm sure throwing out every product ever made is green.
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panicans showing their true colors again
what part of "short term pain for long term gain" do you not understand?
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>>533021567
>spreadsheet magic makes your country $1 trillion a year
Go buy some tulips.
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Iran wanted a measely $1 per barrel tax to cover the outlandish damage the US and israel inexplicably inflicted on their country on a fucking whim, out of their ass 40 days ago
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>>533023927
>There are probably alternatives such as renewables on a global scale.
there are zero alternatives to using the earth-blood

zero
none
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>>533012310
imagine if you will, all the goyim leadership was killed and iran is now a jewish puppet vassel, and this is a way for Israel to slap a toll booth down on hormuz with out enraging the world, who would be far more likely to accept the idea of Iran getting the proceeds than Israel? Launder the money back to Israel via epstein banking, etc. Same thing coming in Egypt (suez), probably already happened.
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>>533026856
they wanted a one stablecoin tax, which makes the worlds oil their asset, you absolute traitorous double nigger
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>>533027430
>they wanted a one stablecoin tax, which makes the worlds oil their asset, you absolute traitorous double nigger

lmao you faggot nigger absolute kike jews screeching
>"traitor! democrat! terrorist!!!"
at everyone you made gag+vomit at your jewish israeli war of aggression in Iran should be beaten with clubs, lashed to a team of horses and drug down gravel roads

the world hates you faggot kikes
the world hates you war mongers
the world hates you destroyers of peace
the world is going to actually have to DO something about *you* now

and you did it to yourselves, inexplicably, and unforced
all because of some insane obsession of
>"Iran may never possess a nuclear weapon"
you cannot even articulate the base reason as to "why" outside of quoting the talmud
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>>533027430
>YOU A TRAITOR FOR NOT BEING MIGA
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Is America incapable of taking the strait or what? How hard is it to just bomb the piss out of them.
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>>533027866
>How hard is it to just bomb the piss out of them.
bomb what nigger?

we hit them with the entire US arsenal 10x over that with everything that wasnt a nuke

you cant do anything about missile cities under 3000ft of granite, hundreds of entrances and thousands of air vents
there are not enough bombs on earth to do something like that
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>>533028081
You guys have been sitting on anti matter bombs for a while. Time to use them.
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>and then everybody clapped
Lol.
Lmao.
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>>533012310
>US got blown the fuck out then unfroze $6bil in iranian finances THEN allowed them to set up a toll booth too
now that's what I call #winning
lmfao
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>>533027866
yes. we are incapable of doing it.

it was open before the US killed the Iranian leadership btw.
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>>533012310
Experts say Hillary Clinton will be the next president by defeating Donald Trump.
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>>533012310
If that ends up happening Trump (and the entire Republican Party) will literally put America at a worse deal than the Iran deal. They claimed that Obama gave Iran money, that is nothing compared to giving Iran a permanent revenue stream they didn’t have before + permanent leverage over the world economy. Lmao
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>>533030309
>literally put America at a worse deal than the Iran deal
Thats the intention - do you actually think they give a shit about you?
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>NOOOOO you can't energycuck us
>Stop reminding me that the strait being closed or taxxed hurts yurocuckolds and china the most
>There's NO WAY we got psyopped into thinking this was about Israel or Iran
>There's NO WAY the US deep state has been conspiring to fuck over Europe ever since it funded anti nuclear movements in Germany 60 years ago
Outplayed. Remember that pipeline we blew up with Poland and Ukraine? This has always been our goal

You lost yuroniggers
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>>533030640
retard
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>>533012310
This is funny so therefore a desirable outcome



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