https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2043293725804421596
nationalizing stuff is based as fuck
>capital exports your jobs to make money>capital imports scab laborers to undercut your wages to make money>capital destroys labor rights to make money>capital wages massive social engineering and psychological warfare campaigns against the population to enable and suppress criticism of all of this>ITZ DA COMMIEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
Vote communismDeclare non communist nations enemies of your communist process, nationalize manufacturing and food productionStop depending of international trade so much you get to cut all inmigration at willMake your own communist ethnostate with cultural hegemonyImprove manufacturing so much you get surplusTrade with other communist countries with the authorization and overviewing of the communist partyActually control crime, did I mention you can control migration, cause no free trade means no illegalsKill foreigners under the excuse that they are foreign spiesDevelop cool weaponryJoin communism today
>>533020177Communism for the government and corporations, crony capitalism for the serfs. Their losses are socialized to you, their gains kept, your losses are yours, your gains are socialized to them.
>>533023361Just join the government is piss easy on communism
>>533020177That’s basically Trump’s economic and cultural policy lmao
>>533020177>>533023361Isn't the goal of 'communism' supposed to be stateless?
>>533022393bad consoooomers. capital wouldn't have done any of this stuff if it ment people would stop buying from them. the core problem is the erosion of any social cohesion through various tribal boundaries, some real, and some artificial.
>>533020177No? It's the complete opposite, global corporate tyranny. Achmed, Ombongo and Jamjeet are only in white countries because corporations desire cheaper slaves and to further skew the job market even further down a buyer's market. It's global corporate neo-feudalism.
>>533024970And you think the Epstein class don't at the very least enhance if not outright create this? Also, the only reason you think tribal boundaries aren't what creates social cohesion is because your country has been filled with niggers for so long you think it's normal. Normal countries through all of history have universally been ethnostates, that's the point.
>>533022393this. literally everything we are experiencing now is a result of unregulated, runaway capitalism. if organizations were worked-owned do you think they'd vote to ship their own jobs overseas?retards really think rich/wealthy people are going to WILLINGLY share wealth and make sure the people below them are taken care of.
>>533020177The primary indicator is revolution, the things grok here don't even make sense. No government has ever just slowly converted to communism.
>>533020988That might be true if you have a nation.
>>533025297>literally everything we are experiencing now is a result of unregulated, runaway capitalismThat is just bullshit and you little fucking kids need to fuck off.
>>533024933>expectation vs reality
>>533025297>retards really think rich/wealthy people are going to WILLINGLY share wealth and make sure the people below them are taken care of.Only you subhuman fucks even conceive of the idea that someone or something needs to take care of you.
>>533024933That's anarchism. Communism is full worship of the state.
>>533026703Willingly?
>>533026911No one is required to take care of your sorry ass!
>>533020177Isn't Elon Musk the one who told me not to go to college because he's working on a robot that can abolish human labor, yielding mass abundance that can be distributed in a communist way?
You dumbfucks need to understand that the endgame of any corrupt oligarchy, whether it is communist or capitalist is feudal slavery. And right now, the US is a corrupt oligarchy.
>>533020177>Are we heading toward communism?I'd say that's a step in the right direction away from the totalitarian corporatism disguised as democratic republic.
Whoops, wrong flag.
>>533027919>totalitarian corporatismPfft you cannot even define what that means or what it would entail.
Communism = people would thrive from AI mass automationCapitalism = society will collapse from AI mass automationI fucking WISH we would be heading towards communism.
>>533028022>Communism = people would thrive from AI mass automationHow the fuck con you possibly think that? What is wrong with you?
>>533024564>is piss easy on communismIn China this is extremely difficult.You litterally have to be the #1 brain in your classroom to even get a chance to join.1400million eligible, 90 million members.That's a 6% success rate.
>>533028169>How the fuck con you possibly think that?I am able to extrapolate obvious patterns>What is wrong with you?I was not brainwashed like a retarded burger into thinking communism is le evil spooky devil
>>533028340Oh you are just some little fucking kid that does not know anything about reality or history.
>anything that isn’t hyper corporatism gets labelled communism like it’s 1980cold war boomers need to die alreadyor at least stripped of their voting rights
>>533028022Your worldview has one big problem: you assume that the government is effective when it comes to adapt or maximise the potential of newest tech. That's absolutely not the case.
>>533020177Good quarter of US is communist already thanks to liberal faggots who vote retards into power.
>>533020177I sont recall Marx ever saying that in order to have Communism you need a surveillance state
>>533028340>I am able to extrapolate obvious patternsExplain one.
>>533026703>>Only you subhuman fucks even conceive of the idea that someone or something needs to take care of you.**unless I need to call the police to break up illegal sit down strikes I otherwise would have no way to stop, then it's ok
>>533028374stupid golem, enjoy literal civil war on the streets once 90% of human become useless overnight>>533028448well the opposite view has an even bigger problem: it assumes AGI companies will want to share their profits just out of good spirit
>>533028533Sure, no HUMAN BEINGS actually want it so they have to constantly surveilled in order to force compliance.
>>533028596As if that is even close to the same thing, god damn you really are a leftist faggot. DIE
>>533028609>stupid golem, enjoy literal civil warIf I get to kill communist trash like you then it is worth it. Choke to death.
>>533025297yes that what gmc auto worker union wanted to mvoe them to china.
>>533028609THEY DON'T NEED TO SHARE THEIR PROFITS YOU SUBHUMAN ANIMAL
>>533022738That was Russians and Eastern Europeans. Not shit skins. Jews were above the law in their society and even so much as noticing one could get you killed. Criticizing a Jew could get your entire family and all close relatives executed. You act like devils then get surprised when anyone notices.
>>533020177And unchecked calitalism leads to 99% of all humans being penniless slaves while 1% become god-kings.
>>533028635But Marx never said it >>533028792Sure it could
>>533028729>>533028780You will change your mind once you lose your job, become homeless, can't afford food anymore and Palantir AI drones shoot you on sight. It will be too late though. Screencap my post for the occasion :)
>>533020177Can someone please explain to me how Twitter retards think we're heading for communism while our entire government is controlled by capitalist billionaire businessmen who sell out their country to Israel? Leftists have no power on any level right now, and yet these Twitter tards would have you think we're on the verge of a communist takeover.
>>533028478The US taxation scheme is communism. Blacks and browns literally pay nothing in taxes and provide their employer with incentives. Whites are heavily taxes to compensate and kept out of any and all positions of power (unless they kiss the wailing wall in pissrael). That's wealth redistribution. It's already here but goyim are too fucking stupid to see it.
>>533020177Yes, but more because the Chinese system seems to be the only one that can maintain technological civilization in the face of declining population.
>>533027119Elon is a faggot.Anyway, America's racial problems are not solvable at all.
>>533028989they cancelled hee-haw and now there's trannies on the tv, that's communism
>>533028609>well the opposite view has an even bigger problem: it assumes AGI companies will want to share their profits just out of good spiritWhat are you on about? More companies means more freedom of choice. You get to pick which AI company you want to support by opening your wallet. Soon there will be millions of models and in distant future people can create their own models. I mean they already are but I am talking about more effective models.Wth do you even mean about "sharing their profits"? Nobody shares their profits, not even you. You sound like an unemployed humanities major right now with your commie worshipping shit.
>>533028964Even then I will understand that the criminal government that hates my guts will not save me.You are just a teenage faggot with no understanding of the actual world
>>533029006> Blacks and browns literally pay nothing in taxes Can't pay taxes if you don't have a job
>>533029010It's the fact that we spend 10x on the elderly what we do on kids, so the elderly are growing and we're getting fewer children.
>>533028989Because you dishonest fucking cunt, the metric for communism is not if you get a check from the government. You are just low info and stupid and don't even realize it.
>>533029055We are not allowed to know that all of your marxist bullshit is just an extension of communism .
>>533029006Ill agree upon that... i seen recently one American youtuber(whistlindiesel) being arrested for car he trashed immediately and he didn't even trash it in state where he bought it. They could have send him notice or something but they arrested him instead...
>>533020177>oh my god guys AI said something song must be true This board is entirely stupid people now
>>533028022There are no doubts about that comrad.
>>533022738You deserve to eat a bullet.
>>533029262You are a subhuman animal.
>>533029262Additiong...it will safe us from Russia because they don't want that shit again.
>>533029102huh? So being able to download crappy chinese LLMs will somehow guarantee job security to common people? I struggle to understand your point. You sound like a boiling frog metaphor. And I'm in STEM.>>533028989The meaning of the word "communism" has been emptied by those same billionaires. They don't want you to even THINK about that word.Its meaning has been turned into "woke", instead of the original purely economic sense.
>>533028964>You will change your mind once you lose your job, become homeless, can't afford food anymoreThats what everyone said when machines replaced farmers lmao>Palantir dronesThat's the beauty in free market society, you can build your own drones to counter them. You couldn't do that in a commie society. Also, free market societies are less likely to fall into genocide scenario in the first place.
>>533029114It's worse than that! Not only do they not have jobs, they all get disability payments because they are too stupid to read. The amount of tax money that goes to buying sneakers and caddilac escalades is astounding. They go out and commit crimes all the time and their welfare payments never cease. I've seen black baby mommas getting their incarcerated baby daddies welfare and disability checks while he is in jail. Non blacks, barely ever get disability for legitimate injuries sustained at work, but that shit gets cut off if they get arrested for anything.
>>533029200t. Hee Haw enjoyer
>>533024933>Isn't the goal of 'communism' supposed to be stateless?The "UTOPIA" is just the sale point, anon. They have no intention of giving freebies to goys. Communism is the most jewish ideology in history, and the final step on the jewish global hegemony play book.
>>533020988Nationalising things that can't be subjected to free market economics like natural resources is based. Nationalising the rest of the economy is a disaster. Centrally planned economies just don't work, I don't get why people think we need to run this failed experiment over and over.
>>533029395LOL not really but the point stands.
>>533029392shitter broke on day 1 they were confirmed poop socking it probably shitshorting it with dipes, to
>>533020988>government grows>pay more tax>have less money>create less private sector jobs>less people having kids>bring in more migrants>even less jobs>increase taxes to pay for migrant housingMan, isn’t communism great
>>533029454>pay more taxThese faggots here never see that part of it, they just see the "free shit".
>>533020177Considering the US made huge pulls back on all 3 from 2017-2019 and now 25-28, no
>>533029156>>533029200>american corporations outsource all of their labor and import millions of people from the third world for cheap while convincing the american people the wealth will trickle down to them>"leftists are ruining western countries even though coraporate interests literally control everything!!"Yeah man, the people in here are the people out of touch with reality, its not just you being a delusional retard.
>>533029294>"die kike">chilean right literally put zionists and jews in La MonedaTOTAL REPUBLICANODEATH
>>533029621No corporations made the 1965 immigration act you dishonest fucking scumbag.
>>533029454At Finland we are already at point than taxes taking 2/3 from our incomes and we getting 1/3 back as social benefits....even those who working need to ask goverment support for living cost which is very expensive here.....and no doubt we are happy about it.
>>533029621JUST FUCKING DIE YOU COMMUNIST PRICK
>>533029528The problem with it that they do t understand is that the wealthy get richer from it and everyone else gets poorerBig government always creates wealth inequalityYou want success, then we need excess
>>533029623>Jara was le better optionYeah, to hug criminals expecting them to change their ways surely is the play.Just accept it, faggot, kast was the lesser evil.
>>533029355>huh? So being able to download crappy chinese LLMs will somehow guarantee job security to common people? I struggle to understand your point. You sound like a boiling frog metaphorYeah, just like how tractors were going to make farmers starve, or how guns were going to make soldiers obsolete, or how computers were going to destroy every job. In reality, new tech just changes what people do.If you were born in 1500s you would have been that twat who thought printing books would somehowcollapse societies because people wouldn't need to memorize anything anymore because everything is in books which would then make everyone stupid.
>>533025297the problem with capitalism is that capital will always eventually overtake and replace the government and then all of these labels stop meaning anything because the billionaires start redistributing normalcattle wealth to themselves. this is why contards blame le communism; capitalism basically is communism but exclusively for billionaires. we are in the exponential redistribution phase now.>>533027041communism is not consensual
>>533029996The bullshit you mother fuckers repeat is comical.
>>533029935there is nothing else with which a human can produce value beyond his body and his mind. Both will be inferior to AGI and robots soon.There is no "next step" this time around. History is not a circle, things can also just change forever and that's that.
>>533029935Nigger, you are comparing tools with a tech whose final objective is to replace humans. And i thought that eurofaggots were supposed to be smart.
>>533020177Communism would be an ENORMOUS improvement over the Zio-foid, late-Capitalist Hell we currently find ourselves in.
>>533030158LOL I just cannot image the goyslave gynoZOG lobotomite that would say that.
>>533030158>Communism would be an ENORMOUS improvement over the Zio-foid, late-Capitalist Hell we currently find ourselves in.You are so retarded you should be castrated to prevent your retardation from perpetuating. Read pic related and try to refute it.
>>533020177I didn’t know that Nazi Germany was heading towards communism Very interesting
>>533020988>stealing businesses and making it less effective is basedWrong site commie
>>533030462Nazi Germany regime was literally called "National Socialism" Which as the name implies, take some stuff from socialism. And socialism is according to Marx himself, the transition state between capitalism and communism.
>>533029434This.Americans are retarded for not demanding their oil be nationalized, they can all have emarati money by now.
>>533029434Have you ever read the five monkeys thought experiment? It's basically the reason why historically retarded shit keeps happening over and over. The people who suffered are replaced by newfags who haven't lived through shit.
>>533030576No, Grok clearly states that these are signs that the nation is heading towards communism, not aryan hyporborea or whatever nazi government was trying to achieve
>>533030729We don't have a nation dumbass.
>>533020177Hey @grok, now do fascism.PublicPrivatePartnership is fascism, and PPP defines current western government SOP.Just look at who is the majority stake holders in all our technical institutes.
>>533030763Learn to read, faggot, i literally stated that national socialism had socialism features. But ofc you are just debating in bad faith. Eat a bullet, kike.
>>533020177America has all the drawbacks of communisation but without the goal of redistributing wealth. Instead, its an oligarchy that enriches itself at the expense of everyone else.
Communism is hell on Earth.
>>533020988Nationalism just creates a monopoly out of the government which is cringe and soviet tier. Cooperativization of workplaces is based as fuck.
>>533022738Communism is also a globalist elite (and Jewish) psy-op.
>>533020177Keeping in mind that this is the South African who wants to import unlimited Indians into the United States.
>>533020177Trump acts surprisingly similar like a dear leader, like Mao, purges and all.
>>533020177>heading towardsLOL - There since 1930's.
>>533030462The main difference between communism and Nazis is Nationalism vs Internationalism. The Nazis were rabid nationalist, the Communist screamed "workers of the world unite!", but the rest is surprisingly similar. You would think that the commies were different because of collectivization and their rejection of capitalism, until you see that the Nazis did pretty much the same when they mobilized society around the army.
>>533026703>you're just a stupid child if you don't want children getting hookworm from playing in raw sewage dumped on the ground because that's cheaper than any alternativefuck off
>>533020988Yeah it's great shedding professionals like doctors because you pay them £26k and ban them from striking
>>533029996>capitalism basically is communism but exclusively for billionaires.we have free market capitalism for the poor and socialism for the richcrazy how people recognized that back in the 60s but now you're gay or woke or a child or whatever if you say itwe're long past the stage where the average migger needs to be burned to learn the stove burner is hot
>>533032098The difference is what you're nationalizing shit for the benefit of. Germans nationalized shit for their benefit. Russians nationalized shit for the benefit of Jews...until Stalin got tired of them. Boomers can't imagine a government that doesn't want to kill them, as this very Jewish government does. So that's why they reject leftist economics.
>>533032147Flat out make up bullshit to rebuke, you need to be brutally murdered.
>>533032276>we have free market capitalism for the poor and socialism for the richJust get a fucking job loser, jesus christ.
>>533028989True.However, on the other hand, the paradox is it seems the former USSR’s/KGB’s “active measures” campaign against the West and even more specifically the U.S. during the decades of the Cold War, actually does seem like it took on quite a big life of its own, particularly infiltrating through academia. Communist infiltration and subversion has actually left a notable mark on our culture.Marxism actually is still alive in American universities, there are many leftist and socialist professors, and then we also have the New Left with academic movements like the Frankfurt School and fields of thought like critical theory, kind of like an attempted neo-Marxism, criticizing and deconstructing what it views as the faults of older Marxism, but also of capitalist Western civilization, while still keeping what it sees of value in some of the old leftist and Marxist analyses. This political block (“the Woke”, “cultural Marxists”) is a substantial entity in the U.S. and Western culture, and it’s a shift from the old classic Marxist distinctions between proletariat vs. the bourgeoisie, to including race, sex, sexual orientation as newly important huge political considerations (identity politics, or the concepts of intersectionality, social-justice ideology). However, it’s possible even all this represents just another dialectical stage of the Globalist Elite’s ultimate plans, the same way some speculate that World Wars 1 and 2 were pushed into happening by an international oligarchy doing a Problem-Reaction-Solution gambit for more globalist control, WWI leading to the League of Nations and WWII to the United Nations; maybe “Woke” will also be sacrificed, after having been used for certain objectives, the same way Nazism expired and old communism is dead.Am I schizo?
>>533020177Its already here through socialism for the rich. Your money is being replaced by stable coins. Your industry belongs to people who are replacing you with machines and AI. You will be put on social credit and UBI tied to your social credit scores. Legislation was passed to remote kill vehicles. Vehicles will be replaced with autonomous Tesla taxis tied to your social credit score. You will not own vehicles unless you are a top 1% contributor. You are experiencing what Agenda 2030 and Net Zero 2050 is about. The current conflicts are to cause global recession and lowering of standards of living towards Agenda 2030.1PBTID threads like this only serve to break people into camps. It is sad that there are almost no threads putting everything together. The general attitude is constant disbelief and denial in the face of it.
>>53303279510 years agohttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5817787/keep shilling for the billionaires shabbos goy, maybe they'll trickle some wealth down on you
>>533020988Nationalising saves business from being bought by international jewish capital. You know who hates it. But no fuck you commie hahaha.
>>533033774>keep shilling for the billionaires shabbos goyNo one is doing that, knowing you should be bulldozed into a shallow fucking grave does not mean I am even thinking about billionaires you rock bottom loswer trash!
>>533020177ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS PAY US ENOUGH TO FUCKIN LIVE
>>533020177Communism is an impossibility that isn't realizable. All "communist" states are just state dictatorships with centralized economic planning.
>>533034013All you had to do was some nebulas thing that cannot even be defined and means something different to different people FUCK YOU
>>533034013They do not intend for you to survive.
>>533034107Well then maybe just fucking maybe you need to take steps by your own actions to allow you to survive FAGGOT
>>533020177But the guy he stole an election for is in charge...Whaaa??
>>533022393>capital exports your jobsLiterally none of this would happen if capital was still legally allowed to mine in the US. All of the jobs left because they were ultimately reliant on the raw resources provided by iron and coal mines, and now that those mines are down it has been a cascade of every derivative job also packing up and going to countries that have materials production.
>>533034238>he stole an election forHow on earth can you possibly believe harris was electable?
Always remember kids the cia can be anything but real commies
>>533034155I know you wont lmao. Just through statistics alone and history also paints the same picture over and over. There's actually less than two tenths of one percent of people in America who have energy and food security and independence. You will be swallowed up and put into a digital cuck cage along with the rest and when they are done there will be many less of us, hopefully in a managed fashion.Given the ignorance around the subject and people being unable to conceptualize logistics chains or embodied energy of systems I have no choice but to call is based and support the most pro eugenic moves being made in the last several centuries. This civilization is dysgenic and fit to die.
>>533030462You’re a massive retard. They werent doing what Grok is talking about. Kys
>>533034094IF YOU ARE PAYING PEOPLE TOO CLOSE TO THAT THEN YOU ARENT PAYING ENOUGH
>>533028989>while our entire government is controlled by capitalist billionaire businessmenthis is a patently false statement. despite what the newspaper tells you none of the billionaires in government actually made their money on the market, they all became rich off of shit like insider trading and illicit contract 'auctions'. they want you to believe this is a function of capitalism but in reality this is a function of their government office. they are all crony oligarchs, the same as any high level communist party member in the late USSR
>>533028308>Turning communism into a meritocracyOne job integration
>>533020177>be retarded Americans >commits fascism all around the world, genocide them, loot their resources, profit off them, install puppet fascist dictators to control them>tell citizens they are communists >fascism is the final level of capitalism >country reaches end state capitalism, capitalists have no country left to exploit so they turn inwards >programs a bot based on your retarded ideas >bot repeats what's going on in your country >zomg! we are going to be commies!
>>533024933No one here has read even the manifesto
>>533034709Listen to Musk statements at the last Davos meeting. They intend to eliminate all meaningful work so that all will be at their mercy. They control the concept of capital and own the means of production already. They are building the WEF world order.
>>533034626You are just emotional women that expect people to take actions based off your emotional state.
>>533034801>nevermind about reality nevermind that even china abandoned socialism in favor of hardcore capitalism just read my 9001 fanfic books bro
>>533034709>commits fascism all around the worldGod damn mindless drones like you to hell.
>>533034838And they are going to do everything they said if we don't stop them. They have the capital. They control the resources, land and governments. Only option left for people is to fight. Not protest, not hold signs begging them to give crumbs. It's either armed struggle against them or eternal slavery and death.
>>533034969Do you think America spreads democracy, freedom and human right all over the world?
>>533034927YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT WOMEN ARE CAPABLE OF IF YOU DONT TREAT THEM RIGHT THEN
>>533020177Honestly, I am beginning to believe in nationalized capitalism. Take the case of Intel, this was about to be a bankrupt company, lost many US jobs high paying, then Trump steps in, finds the right boss for Intel, gives it some financial support, now stock is up from 38 to 64, the company looks healthier than it has looked for almost a decade and it didn't reduce competition it only made it better. The times when government subsidized companies suck are when they lower competition or prop up companies that have 0 chance of success just to preserve jobs. This is what we do for Clean Coal for example. Trying to preserve coal jobs in West Virginia probably hurt the state overall in the long run.
>>533034801manifesto is genuinely a terrible book that focuses mostly on incorrect predictions about how an anticapitalist revolution is totally going to go down before the year 1900. Das Kapital is a much more relevant work and actually worth a read.
>>533035237God damn, grow up kid.
>>533020177I'm so tired of this "communism is when capitalism" narrative. Everyone on Xitter is an absolute retard
>>533035400I am sick of subhuman fucking animals even pretending communism is an option!
>>533035400read marx. communism is, in fact, when capitalism
>>533035473>I am sick of subhuman fucking animals even pretending communism is an option!No one except a tiny minority thinks that. Capitalism won and will continue to "win" while stripping us of every right.
>>533035630>continue to "win" while stripping us of every right.You mindless drones are just fucking exhausting.
>>533035696Please define capitalism for me
>>533035753MODERN SLAVERY
>>533035753Burn in hell subhuman animal.
>>533020177>Are we heading towards communism?You wish. You're heading toward capitalistic dictatorship, where you will have worst sides of both simultaneously.
>>533020177no you are heading into postmodern fascism.
>>533035827No you little fucking kid.
>>533020177I would argue we are skipping the experiment part and headed straight to the collapse part. The problem for the kikes is. Where will they carpet bag too now that they've kiked the whole world?
>>533020177We're already living under it nigga
>>533035158I believe the systems they are bringing online are ultimately more humane and will lead to better outcomes for the species. It will take several generations of pain but the exit is a world where human fitness is engineered and society has strict controls. Corruption and the people who are liabilities to the system in the elites will also be drawn out and eliminated as systems threats over time. With a well managed humanity people can enjoy what it is to be human. The alternative is we spiral back into a dark ages and people killing each other in the streets and probably going extinct.
>>533035931God damn, sure is little kid in here.
>>533035895HOW DO WE CONTINUE SLAVERY?HMM I KNOW LETS TELL THE SLAVES WE WILL PAY THEM AND IF THEY WORK HARD THEY CAN GET WHAT THEY WANTBUT THATS IMPOSSIBLEYES IT WILL ONLY BE TRUE FOR A FEW OF THEM, AND THOSE FEW WILL LOOK DOWN ON THE ONES WHO CANT AND AGRUE IN FAVOR OF THIS SYSTEMITS BRILLIANT
>>533035158>Only option left for people is to fight.Yes we need to fight subhuman animals like you.
>>533036009You're the one whos frightened and acting out. You don't like reason or explanations you are emotional and a coward and part of the dysgenic masses not fit to inherit the world.
Look at what's going on in NYC right now. Communist kikes have been subverting America for a long time, their favorite weapon is to use the shitskins against us like they had been trying to do for the duration of the Cold War.
>>533034801Isn't the manifesto reviled among leftist intellectuals? Something about it being Marx's worst publication.
>>533035855Lmao can't even define it. Because in your mind it's just "capitalism is when good and freedom". "communism is when bad and not freedom". It's entirely vibe based. Just based on subjective feelings. Kys you low-iq retard
>>533036111You should be forced to be an actual slave so you would not use the word so willingly.
>>533034267This. And it was by design. Asset flippers were wooed by china and their tungsten backed toilet paper.
>>533036117Pure projection you little fucking shit!
>>533020177Ask grok how to identify when a country is subverted by Jews.Or where Communism came from.Or if Communist Jews that came to America started any right-wing political movements.Let's see the free speech Musk, you Ziocucked sleaze, with your fucking Mark Levin "oy vey da gommunists, goyim!" Rhetoric.
>>533036140You all just make up bullshit then think you are right, pure teenage tier.
>>533036151ITS MODERN SLAVERY, ITS FAR BETTER THAN OLD SLAVERY BUT STILL SLAVERY AND IN THE FUTURE PEOPLE WILL SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS, BARBARIC
>>533036317Not is it not. You having to work for a living in not barbaric or slavery you little fucking kid!GROW UPActually don't you will get everything you deserve.
>>533036268That's why am asking for a definition so I can go off your definition. If we can't even agree on a definition how are we going to have a conversation? I know I won't get anything from you though because you rather just insult me. So fuck off
>>533036218Older than you by far. I appreciate how far these groups have come and how easily they have manipulated people for so long with a clear stated objective people simply ignore or lash out against. They want to preserve dysgenics and there is nothing more dysgenic than todays youth. They have the testosterone of 70 year olds and no ambition with lobotomized brains from something as simple as tablets and phones. You don't fuck, you don't reproduce, you don't work and you will be replaced by something better.
>>533036268You got blown the fuck out Mark Levin, now shut the fuck up.
>>533036429SLAVERY IS A SPECTRUMELON HAS TO WORK FOR A LIVING TOO, JUST LIKE A JANITOR. ONLY ONE IS A SLAVE.
>>533036455There is not point in conversating with subhuman animals, just fuck off and accept reality! You will ALWAYS have to work for a living no matter what system you dream up!
>>533036528As if the criminal government managing the means of production do anything about any of that.
>>533036548Go consume some more media you brainwashed drone.
>>533036429Work will ser you free, but only in a righteous paradigm, which you have failed to create - in fact, you created the opposite, a failed shithole with no hope.People want to work and earn their living, but your system doesn't allow that for all but a few.Thats not a good system.Thats a Jewish system.Arbeit macht frei - yet they do not work, they sit like an effendi and eat, while you work. They steal from your pockets, and smile as they do it, while contributing nothing - just take take take.And you smile back, you fucking cur.
>>533036722He says while quoting lolberg retard shit he got from some Jew on TV.You got blown the fuck out Mark Levin, now shut the fuck up lol
>>533036773No system is going to save you from getting what you deserve rock bottom loser.
>>533036652The oligarchs are an extension of the government and own Capital as a concept and the means of production as reality. Early 2030's is when most meaningful work is replaced and you are at the mercy of social credit. They do not intend for most people to survive and will bring the population down substantially. The world will work even better with under a billion people over time. All it takes is a few bad years of crops and disruption of trade. The rest will be handled by who gets to breed according to social credit.
>>533035753Discussing this is a waste of time.The word "capitalism" was invented by Marx. It only has meaning if you accept the overarching meta-narrative of marxism. To attempt to discredit marxism while simultaneously conceding a marxist meta-narrative frame is a waste of time.This is the equivalent of the word "satanism". "Satanism" only makes sense from within a Christian meta-narrative. If you engage with a Christian about how satanism isn't so bad, then you have already lost. Because you have already conceded the existence of both God and Satan, and are inadvertently arguing from within a Christian frame. For the same reason, it's also a waste of time to discuss "communism" and "socialism". The only discussion worth having is about central planning vs free markets. But then you'll invariably get sidetracked by not understanding the difference between pro-business and pro-market. I don't think normies should weigh in on these things because what you end up with is a complete waste of time.
>>533036855Nothing I have said is on the TV you mindless drone. You clamor for a system that is not only 100% jewish in nature but was only created for jewish control!
>>533036582>You will ALWAYS have to workSo that's what you think anti-capitalism is? Lmao good job blindly repeating MSM talking points.>45 pbtidHoly schizo meltdown
>>533036923Again, just more Jewish rhetoric. Toothless and gay, as usual.National Socialism is the way, and if you disagree, you are a Jew or else a Jewraped goyslave. Simple as.
>>533036944>nd you are at the mercy of social credit.Somehow the solution is to clamor for even more government?!!??!!!???
>>533037001Mark Levin cries about muh gommunism, WITH THE EXACT SAME RHETORIC you are using, CONSTANTLY.Everything you have said is on fox News bud, which is where you heard it.
>>533037023There should be 45 magazines of ammo dumped into your fucking bodies!
>anti white nato
>>533037141Just so fucking typical you all insist that everyone has simply been tricked into not wanting to destroy themselves with your subhuman bullshit.
>>533037062You're doing the Jewraped goyslave thing where you pretend as though the issue is "government" and not the complete subversion of your government by Jews, like the ones who told you "the problem is big dumb government goy! No regulations!".
>>533020177>is the super evil egotistical self-described dictator billionaire giving up all his and his friend's wealth and power to enact communism?gee anons i don't know this sure is a tough one. something tells me trump likes "capitalism" more
>>533020988Industries that the country needs to function should be nationalized, others can remain private.Like, farming. We need food. Food is not optional. We also want food to be cheap, which is at odds with it being a for-profit industry. To keep food cheap, we subsidize the fuck out of the farming industry as it is. Why not just nationalize the farms outright? You work as a farmer, you are a state or federal employee. You get paid to grow food by the government, who then sells that food either abroad or to domestic companies for distribution or processing. This allows the farmers to earn a living wage without having to cut corners with illegal immigrant labor, the government can maintain a stable supply of basic food to keep the country running, and any profits that result end up in the treasure as an alternative source of revenue to taxes instead of in some corporate bank account and buying some fucker a new yacht. Whats the downside here? Usually you risk an industry being too slow to respond and advance and falling behind the competition with they get nationalized, but this is just... growing crops. Raising chicken and cows. This is not a fast paced, rapidly changing industry where you risk becoming outdated, we know how to grow food and the methods for doing so haven't really changed since the invention of the tractor.
>>533037031>National Socialism is the way,Yet all you are doing is defending communism .
>>533037270The government you are insisting we need to give all the power to IS JEWRAPED you teenage fuck!
>>533037062You will not be able to reframe it like that. The people invited this by being ungovernable and uncivil at scale. Now they have been manipulated but they allowed it and are thoroughly domesticated and docile cattle at this point. If humanity is going to be anything other than a Brazilian shanty town twerking until the species dies it will be managed and agency will be removed from retards.It starts with AI replacing teachers and people being sorted like potatoes on a conveyor belt passing a scanner. Peoples talents and value will be found out and exploited for the sake of efficiency. The bleeding edge of the bell curve is tomorrows mean and the process is being sped up. It will be a easy life for those who accept it and seemingly have something to offer while creating new human purpose. For the rest it will just be the end.
>>533037258I haven't even made an argument for something, and youre attacking me as if I'm an avowed Gommunist calling for Marxism.Again, this is how Jews like Mark Levin speak and behave; constant emotional rhetoric aimed to insult and generate an emotional response (aka Finklethink strategy), alongside "OY VEY BE SCARED OF GOMMUNISM AND BIG GOVERNMENT, BUT NOT WHEN ITS FOR ISRAEL!".You are quite literally reciting Mark Levin rhetoric from Fox News while claiming youre not. Boomer as fuck.
>>533037270>>533037031You’re a transvestite freak who promotes communism, nothing to do with the national socialist german government
>>533036140Retard tranny suicidal freak
>>533037387Where?>>533037447Yes, nigger, my points is that the go ornament isn't the issue, the Jew is.Remove the Jew.But you are focused on muh gommunism and muh big government, Jewish lolberg shit.Thats the point: You are defending a Jewish paradigm by accusing us of espousing a long-defunct and toothless Jewish paradigm of the past, when in reality, we are attacking the current Jewish paradigm and it is trying to masquerade a not a Jewish paradigm by holding up an old Jewish paradigm and telling retards like you "this is the danger!".
>>533037530You are confused as fuck. Just review the thread chain here, for fuck sake.
>>533037603See>>533037530
>>533037820No. You are confused, behaving like a sundowners Boomer.I haven't even made an argument for something, and youre attacking me as if I'm an avowed Gommunist calling for Marxism.Again, this is how Jews like Mark Levin speak and behave; constant emotional rhetoric aimed to insult and generate an emotional response (aka Finklethink strategy), alongside "OY VEY BE SCARED OF GOMMUNISM AND BIG GOVERNMENT, BUT NOT WHEN ITS FOR ISRAEL!".You are quite literally reciting Mark Levin rhetoric from Fox News while claiming youre not. Boomer as fuck.
>>533020988Depends.Nationalising stuff like trash and mail are generally good, but if you nationalise shit for the sake of it then that'll slow growth.I say this completely unironically, the US has a pretty good criteria for nationalisation, being that if something is meant for the public good but incredibly unprofitable then the govt. will nationalise it.
>>533037910Just review the god damn thread chain you confused fuck. You need to learn to grow up and accept when you are wrong. Also need to learn what projecting means.
>>533037387Explain how what he’s saying contradicts national socialism.
>>533038059Clearly you need to learn to review thread chains too.
>>533038176I did. Are you going to tell us how what he said contradicts NS, or are you just going to further demonstrate the fact that you’re a jewish shill spouting buzzwords you don’t know the meaning of?
>>533020177Bots talking to bots talking to bots talking to bots >Hey, I asked my self-hosted LLM about [thing] and here’s the wild response it gave me!Nobody cares
>>533029402>That flagOf course is a zoomer sudaca hahaha. The most jewish ideolgy is what is ruling the word in the most jewish country. An their goys allies
>>533038045No. You are confused, behaving like a sundowners Boomer.I haven't even made an argument for something, and youre attacking me as if I'm an avowed Gommunist calling for Marxism.AGAIN, this is how Jews like Mark Levin speak and behave; constant emotional rhetoric aimed to insult and generate an emotional response (aka Finklethink strategy), alongside "OY VEY BE SCARED OF GOMMUNISM AND BIG GOVERNMENT, BUT NOT WHEN ITS FOR ISRAEL!".You legit called me a tranny freak for no reason, because youre either upset or pretending to be - thing about Finklethi k strategy is that it's common lying used to dumb down the conversation into an insult flinging shitshow.And that's 95% of what youre saying BEYOND the Mark Levin Jewish nonsense.So, either youre legit upset and emoting like a schizoid Jew Boomer, like Mark Levin, or youre playing pretend to sling insults to try to dumb down the conversation. In any case: You are quite literally reciting Mark Levin rhetoric from Fox News while claiming youre not, and calling everyone Communists Trannies. MIGA Boomer as fuck.
>>533022393What are your thoughts on make america great again
>>533034944>China is not socialism Hahahahaha the copium
>>533038315>The most jewish ideolgy is what is ruling the word in the most jewish country. An their goys alliesNice strawman, nigger. Now refute that letter content, faggot.
>>533038343It made America worse.
>>533024933Looooooool
>>533038349China Economic system is capitalism enforced through fascism. Cope, faggot.
>>533038322No you refuse to review the thread chain and accept that no you attacked me for rebuking mindless communist bullshit which fucking means you defending communism then want to pretend you are some national socialist somehow by repeating mindless bullshit.
>>533038176I just reviewed all your posts in this thread and you’ve done nothing but melt down, get mad, sperg out and hurl insults while posting absolutely nothing of value. Pathetic
>>533020177Hopefully
>>533038456They barely use money they made everything an online transactionCapitalism required capital crypto makes money out of thin air
>>533034944>>533038456State owned corporations comprise over 60% of China’s economy.Fucking retards. If we tried to do that here, you would SCREAM “muh communism!” non-stop.How the FUCK is state-owned corporations capitalism? It’s not. Not according to you people, until people point to China as a mode example of a healthier economy. Then suddenly it’s “oh well they’re already capitalist like us, so we don’t need to change anything”
>Because in your mind it's just "capitalism is when good and freedom". "communism is when bad and not freedom".If you rebuke that mindless bullshit because it is mindless teenage bullshit that means you are with the jews and love mark levin. That also means you are like old and stuff too.
>>533020177> heading towards communismyeswhen you can't squeeze the working class for a single drop, they squeeze youbut elon's financiers will never stop squeezing
>>533038640>They barely use money they made everything an online transactionIs that a retarded opinion? because I dont see any proof.
>>533038459>you attacked meNo, I didnt. >>533036140>>533036268>>533036548I criticized you for being disingeuous and not addressing conversation, resorting instead to Mark Levin Boomer rhetoric and Finklethink insult screeds.You proceeded to call me a tranny, say I was defending gommunism.I didnt even attack you, I busted your balls for acting like Mark Levin - and you just proceeded to double down again and again!Frankly, the German flag guy is right - you have not defined what youre even attacking, youre just screaming insults and Fox News rhetoric about gommunism and big government.
>>533020988>Nationalize oil or key resource sectors >Corporations get mad>Corporations pressure their home governments to sanction the US>Other corporations pull out the US market out of nationalization fear>Hundreds of billions of dollars lost from economy>Tens/hundreds of thousands of job loss>Economic isolation and sanctioning by foreign countries to negotiate either return of lost property or compensation of fair market value of nationalized assets You people live in a fantasy world where you can do whatever you want without consequences
>>533020177Let's see Musk's company survive without massive state handouts.
>>533030762Kek free market economies have fared far worse.
>>533038835>No, I didnt.Okay, so you don't understand how to read the thread chain? Its right here in black and fucking white!
>>533038500This.Not just pathetic, SUSPICIOUS.Finklethink works because most people are retarded emotional fuckstains.Insult, inflame, suddenly there is no conversation, no rational debate,just retards shouting buzzwords at each other.
>>533038721>State owned corporations comprise over 60% of China’s economy.Explain the billionaires in China living as billionaires then?
>>533038892Noooooo not the fiat currency!
>>533038974I sent you our first interaction in the thread chain bud, youre replying to the message in which I did so.Ill do it again.>>533036140 #>>533036268 #>>533036548 #I criticized you for being disingeuous and not addressing conversation, resorting instead to Mark Levin Boomer rhetoric and Finklethink insult screeds.You proceeded to call me a tranny, say I was defending gommunism.I didnt even attack you, I busted your balls for acting like Mark Levin - and you just proceeded to double down again and again!Frankly, the German flag guy is right - you have not defined what youre even attacking, youre just screaming insults and Fox News rhetoric about gommunism and big government.
>>533038993Same way 60% taxes frenchies do it, they don't pay their taxes
>>533020177But some of Elon Musk's companies receive enormous amounts of funds from the US government, and some of his companies were from the start entangled with the US military and intelligence agencies, like SpaceX from the start having a focus on military purposes and CIA people being involved. And Elon Musk have repeatedly pretended to care about settling Mars, while his actual goals include using SpaceX for war, such as in Ukraine with Starlink. Do not trust the pied piper Elon Musk.>In early 2002 he [Michael Douglas Griffin] met entrepreneur Elon Musk and accompanied him on a trip to Russia, where they attempted to purchase ICBMs.[8] The decision to found the company SpaceX was made on the flight home, and Griffin briefly considered serving as chief engineer,[9] but eventually he instead became president and COO of In-Q-Tel, a private enterprise funded by the CIA to identify and invest in companies developing cutting-edge technologies that serve national security interests.[10]>In December 2008, NASA awarded SpaceX and Orbital Sciences additional contracts with a combined value of $3.5 billion as part of the Commercial Resupply Services program.[15] Elon Musk credited these follow-on contracts for saving his company as it neared bankruptcy.[16]
>>533038383You, like the typical South American mestizo zoomer, are mentally retarded and anachronistic regarding the current global situation and what the real axes of power in the world represent today. This discourse was sustained under the fallacy of argument from silence and ad hoc arguments in 2015, but not anymore today. /pol/ abandoned this pathetic attempt at discussing with poorly reported screenshots that probably come from some Discord server or Redditors a long time ago. You are a tourist, and you will always be. South American mestizos and oligophrenics like you will never understand politics. You are worse than any social scum. Hispanic communities are infested with stupid zoomers like you, with no personality. There is nothing to debate. First, whether your screenshot is real or not, you mongoloid South American zoomer, a letter is not an ideological manual; it's a conversation. Right here in this chat, there are points for and against. Second, ideologies are not personalistic. I can agree with an author on some points and disagree on others, but what matters is epistemological and deep debate, not opinion. Third, the author of the letter has no real influence on existing socialism. Then, the ethnic Jew is a concession of Zionism that National Bolshevism gave away. Milei, the inbred South American, has no Jewish genes, yet he is the most Jewish person in America, representative of the most disgusting zoomerism. The Hispanic zoomer is more Jewish than any average Jew.
>>533037910>>533038045>>533038322Are you a samefagging Jew?
>>533039130>Same way 60% taxes frenchies do it, they don't pay their taxesSo... in your perfect Chinese system, not only are billionaires be allowed to exist, but government supports their monopoly and except them from taxes?How is Capitalism worse than this?
>>533038456Go back to TikTok, you imbecile zoomer. There, your Sudaca arguments are bought by evangelicals and liberals. China does not have a free market, there is no separation between politics and economy, nor is it possible. Even the Austrians agree that any central state leads to socialism. You don't even understand the most basic politics, you dumb globalist zoomer.
>>533039200I accept your concession, Rabbi, try again on another thread.
>>533039104>Because in your mind it's just "capitalism is when good and freedom". "communism is when bad and not freedom".That statement is not "blowing me out" you fucking transexual nigger loving faggot!
>>533022393It's true. At this point I'm in favor of exact Sovietaws, especially around joblessness, vagrancy, and homosexuality. Let's get shipping these bums to salt mines in the great basin already
>>533039007Economics is just astrology for men! Who needs it?
>>533038383>look I'm saying nigger now I'm part of youHahahahahahahaha poorfag idiotic sudaca
>>533039376Wew, did i hit a nerve, faggot? Go back to you shabbat room so maybe your rabbi can fuck some sentience into you, NPC kike nigger.
>>533039376>China does not have a free market, there is no separation between politics and economy, nor is it possible.The same is true here in reality
>>533039545Show flag, rabbi/dalit, what are you trying to hide?
>>533039416>Look my wall text memeKek go back to discord zoomer sudaca eres la basura mestiza nunca serás blanco
>>533039620>Rabbi>Show flag Kek are you don't even know the meme
>>533039636And you will never be human, parasite. Enjoy your last 4 years of shitposting, nigger. By the end of this decade you will be deported back to hell.
>>533039685>Kek are youOk, jeet confirmed. I took your izzat, fecal golem, and there is nothing you can do to get it back. sage
>>533039351You assume a billionaire is some sort of calamity that just hangs around destroying things for profitI just think is a dumbass with more expertise than time
>>533039618The difference lies in the finalism. It is not the same to have a dog to dress it up as a rabbit on Instagram as to have a dog to rescue missing persons. China does not have a free market because it pursues a collective society. The USA does not have a free market because it could not compete with the USSR with a free market; it needed to coordinate efforts in the war, and now it struggles to dismantle the war economy. Now Trump justifies himself with the Chinese and Iranian threat.
>>533039749Seethe more, sudaca. I won't read a sudaca from Discord. All your words are a concession.
>>533022738third post best post
>>533040024>You assume a billionaire is some sort of calamity that just hangs around destroying things for profit>Eat the rich! except if its China, Chinese billionaires are le good!I cant understand how some nigger can deal with those 2 very conflicting ideas on his head. No wonder why leftist niggers are so mentally unstable.
>>533040037It's simpler to describe really, it's just an inversion. In China the party-business nexus has the party at the top. In America this is inverted, the large business interests are at the top and the government is their enforcement arm. But both societies in practice are ruled by a party/government-big business nexus. It's amazing how here in the USA the one simple trick of having all the unfree shit come from "private" business fools everyone.
>>533040243Whatever rakeesh. Stop replying to me then, you stink.
>>533040436Seethe more sudaca negro go and fuck a llama in your peruvian land cuico
>>533040522>Seethe more sudaca negro go and fuck a llama in your peruvian land cuicopoo in the loo
>>533040412To be honest, in practice, free market has never existed, just as communism has never existed. Both are the ultimate ends of their respective ideologies. Free market is to capitalism what communism is to socialism. That said, the political leadership pursuing that end is more important than the act itself. The US will never have an absolute free market, but it is undeniable that it has guarantees on private property that do not and will not exist in China. The most liberal China was left behind in the 2000s. Today, Xi is literally carrying out a purge in the business sector and centralizing the state economy. The party committees have more control than ever over 'private' companies.>>533040609Keep seething negro sudaca
The WEF has wonhttps://vocaroo.com/127bdI5inGiq
>>533029454I pay quite a bit in Taxes and get almost nothing from it. All that happens is that prices go up higher and my health care deducible goes up every year. I might as well get something from it.
>>533024933>Isn't the goal of 'communism' supposed to be stateless?Communism doesn't get rid of the state, it simply replaces it with another
>WER' BECUMMEN DAH COOMMUNISMTISMS!!!I prefer to a communist slave before being a scampitalist slave to Indians.
>>533020177GUYSIF ELON GETS 5 TRILLION DOLLARS WE WILL DEFEAT COMMUNISM!
>>533029454Under communism there's no private sector at all. Government controls everything. Wages and prices are fixed so less/more money doesn't matter as much. Everyone must be employed in the workers' paradise so the government constantly undertakes some great and no so great (or dumb) enterprises to create jobs. Relatively few to no migrants because there are too many workers anyway. Surely this will work this time.
>>533041117>To be honest, in practice, free market has never existed, just as communism has never existed.Mao's China was 100% communist and they abandoned it because making everyone equally poor to stop wealth concentration wasn't worth it
>>533042221Why the fuck is what elon or anyone else has even part of your thought cycles? The situation in your life is not because someone has investments.
>>533037317>Like, farming. We need food. Food is not optional. We also want food to be cheap, which is at odds with it being a for-profit industry. To keep food cheap, we subsidize the fuck out of the farming industry as it is. Why not just nationalize the farms outright? You work as a farmer, you are a state or federal employee. You get paid to grow food by the government, who then sells that food either abroad or to domestic companies for distribution or processing.what a retard, americans are becoming more hispanic
>>533042274Communism is a society without money and without a state. Mao never achieved that. On the other hand, China's economic opening did not begin with Deng; it began with Mao. You know that from the very beginning, China recognized its national bourgeoisie as an ally of the proletariat. Deng merely combined this with Lenin's New Economic Policy.
>>533020988Ni hao
>>533034801Neither did communist leaders apparently
>>533042732>Communism is a society without money and without a state. Mao never achieved that.This is completely false. Communism, according to Marx and Lenin, is an emergent mode of production. They both believed—and argued—that communism coexisted alongside capitalism. You’ve claimed to have read the Manifesto, but your argument here contradicts that. Even in the Manifesto, Marx points out that communism was prevalent in the Russian countryside.>Mao never achieved thatHe pretty much did. About 90% of China’s population lived on communes, and most workers belonged to cooperatives. Deng reversed China’s communist period because it was largely a failure and made everyone poor. They conducted experiments, such as privatizing communal plots, and realized these were more efficient than collectivized property. 90% of China's population lived in poverty under Mao, under communism.
>>533026442Dual citizens have a nation.>Grok, please provide a breakdown by state of every elected official that has jewish heritage.
>>533038810When you online buy over a chinese only market you assume they convert your money directly to yuan physical?
>>533044730Well I don't have a fucking nation so there is nothing to "nationalize".
"90% of communizing a nation is installing a central bank" - vladimir lenin (lev bronstein)
>>533045050be sure to thank the christcucks for handing over control of the money supply to transnational jews without them even having to fire a shot
>>533044881im sure the jews probably handle it, they fix all the exchange rates, to better track their own money, which everybody uses.
>>533041117>practice, free market has never existed, just as communism has never existed. Both are the ultimate ends of their respective ideologies. Free market is to capitalism what communism is to socialism. That said, the political leadership pursuing that end is more important than the act itself. The US will never have an absolute free market, but it is undeniable that it has guarantees on private property that do not and will not exist in China.Generally agree. In the US though private property is guaranteed until someone with more money wants it. Then rule of law is bent or interpreted into them getting it somehow
>>533020177>begging ghislaine maxwell to come to pedo island to hang out with epstein i guess thats capitalism and just captain of industry stuff
>>533020988nationalizing requires a homogenous nation, and leadership who are of and accountable to that nation
