We have absolutely no fix for immigration coming from the right. Immigration is an economic issue, not a social one, and it's fundamentally necessary for us in the united states.Without immigrants we have no demand, no jobs, no growth, no 401k retirement fund, no food, no housing, worse inflation and every economic bubble bursts worst than in 2008.We don't even see people on the right acknowledging these facts. Republicans won't acknowledge them. People here on /pol/ won't acknowledge them./pol/ lies to people, and tells them "immigration is an optional policy, that's being done because people in power hate whites". You pretend it's a social issue. Another culture war. You deliberately obfuscate the fact that our country fundamentally relies on these influxes of people, both legal and illegal, for our very survival.We rely on them due to fascist right-wing economic policies which you create. You're the ones responsible for mass immigration right here on this website. You won't ever admit it, because the moment you did your entire grift would fall apart. But you're the 1 and only direct cause of mass immigraiton or any other problem the western world, which is fascist, faces.
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>>533046812Nah. We can just use robots and automation while we allow our population to go down. All the mass immigration was for no fucking reason because there isn't going to be any labor shortage anyway
>>533046812We do, but you aren't going to like it: Ban contraception.
>>533046812anti immigration is supposed to be a leftist view, because economically it hurts the local labor force and traditionally the lower skilled (however with h1b visas it also effects white collar jobs). Economically it benefits the right - business owners, farmers, free professions - because it suppresses the wages of their workers (or gets them more work, like with immigration lawyers).Nativism was a regressive movement in the US during the mid 1800s, fighting against irish mass immigration. US has had several immigation waves like these, followed by a period of isolation to process and integrate the incoming groups. So if the pattern persists, US will soon close up and try to integrate and americanize the somali, afghani and LATAM influx of immigrants.Fascism benefits from mass migration as long as these migrants are used only as workers, not naturalized as citizens. OP is a faggot
>>533048071You're just the enemy of facts on this board. Whenever anyone wants to incite you into acknowledge any form of fact, you're just like "nah [insert X rationalization that doesn't make any fundamental sense]" and it's just because you know your politics are predicated on lies sold to poor and working white people. And if you ever had to face those facts then you would have to face your own filthy lies to the people you've misled.
>>533048231>anti immigration is supposed to be a leftist viewYou'll never find an anti-immigration leftist anywhere, ever
>>533048231>anti immigration is supposed to be a leftist view, because economically it hurts the local labor force and traditionally the lower skilled (however with h1b visas it also effects white collar jobs).It doesn't "hurt the labor force". No. That's not how economics works. That's social media algorithm / western MSM propaganda which is designed to misinform people, confuse them, and smear the left.
>No fixWhat? Close the border, deport or kill them, and that's it. It's really simple.Do you not know what the far right is?>oh no muh economyYou're thinking of neolibs.
>>533048581You're the direct, sole causes of mass immigration on the far right. Not the left. No matter how many times you people doubledown on your western propaganda that "immigration is the result of the political left", or pretend not to understand when its pointed out to you how utterly false that is.You're the total opposite of everything you pretend to be.
>>533048777So you're against immigration?
Just do national socialism>NOOOOO ANTI-CAPITALISM HAS TO BE LE WHOLESOME QUIRK CHUNGUS THIRD WORLDIST COALITION"No"
>>533048762>that's it. It's really simple.It's not that simple, though. You use a reductionist view of the world to pretend it's that simple so the uninformed public will believe your falsehoods when you promise then you will fix their problems. Which you never do because you have no intention of doing so. None.>Do you not know what the far right is?Yes. I know what the far right is. People who pander to racism without having any racist views of their own, only to mislead poor and working people into voting for the financial interests of the ultrawealthy. You're nothing else. No matter what other empty rhetoric you have about yourselves.
>>533046812Mathematically speaking, the only effective solution is to start killing 30,000 of them PER DAY until the next election. It is literally the only thing that will work. Deportations take too long and are too expensive and we need 30,000 of them to disappear from our lands every single day until our next election to save this country.
>>533048454Explain how it doesn't make sense then.From what I can tell, a single android robot slave could replace all the labor value I could ever provide to the workforce while requiring no compensation, no salary. Just the initial MSRP and maintenance costs. A slave underclass makes a big difference.All these immigrants are just going to be more jobless losers in the future that we never needed anyway
>>533048915Your politics as fascists involve the use of identity politics to distract people from socialism and protect capitalism. There's no other component to what any of you do. And any historical or present-day claims you make to the contrary, of being "socialists" or whatever, are utter falsehoods.
>>533046812DEPORTTHEMALLNOWGOGOGO
>>533048581you are correct, leftists were led into thinking only in cultural and social issues. increasing the labor pool suppresses wages and hurts the working class, which traditionally leftists are supposed to support, but they've been lead to support oligarch interests.>>533048614it suppresses wages. these working visas also allow for worsening of working conditions because it makes it A. impossible to unionize for migrant labor and B. easy to dispose of workers if they protest working conditions. A strong native working class with strong unions that support their members is a nightmare for oligarchs. It also drops productivity and acts as a drag on innovation - but that's the costs of protecting native labor.
>>533049175For one thing, you're talking about the future with robots and applying it to a past stretching back 250 years in the United States. You're just an idiot. Your comment is an idiot's comment and sometimes there's genuinely just nothing else to say other than that.
>>533049303>it suppresses wages.Yeah that's demonstrably fictional. And demonstrably pseudoeconomics. That's empty, completely irrational, and false, misinformation from western MSM and big tech.Your wages aren't being "suppressed" by the very group of people whom you fundamentally rely on for having a job or any form of economy in the United States in the first place. And that's just the beginning of why this bullshit propaganda is false.
>>533049049>without having any racist views of their ownOkay so you're actually just stupid and incorrect about what words mean, got it.
>>533049175you know these things are just someone using VR in a 3rd world country, right?
>>533049453>>533049303>>it suppresses wages.>Yeah that's demonstrably fictional. And demonstrably pseudoeconomics. That's empty, completely irrational, and false, misinformation from western MSM and big tech.>Your wages aren't being "suppressed" by the very group of people whom you fundamentally rely on for having a job or any form of economy in the United States in the first place. And that's just the beginning of why this bullshit propaganda is false.PS, also you are the anti-union people on the right. This whole cooked idea you have on this board of "we're gonna blame the pro-union people for opposing the unions", while you sit there as fascists who openly and infamously oppose unions. It isn't ever going to fly. No one is responsible for YOUR opposition to unions on the right but YOURSELVES.
>>533049327I never once mentioned the past though? And did we ever have AI and this level of automation in the past? No? Yeah, so it's inapplicable. Your claim that immigrants are needed for "our survival" is refuted by the incoming advent of robot and AI workers
>>533046812But I also want to kill the jews that own the banking cartels that issue us our debt based fiat money for a full face value loan plus interest and I'm told this makes me a fascist (not that I care)
>>533049453anon you are a nigger faggot that has no capacity to contradict my claims, because you type with one hand while anally fisting yourself with the other, and thus are too distracted to try and refute my claims. you're an oligarch bootlicker class traitor.
>>533046812What a pathetic lie you miserable kike shit. A. Automation. B niggers are bad for the economy. C. No one wants them. D you are a kike
>>533049637fascists embrace unions and co-opt them.
>>533049466You don't have any racist views of your own on this website. Or anyone on the "based, fascist right" or whatever. You're professional propagandists and panderers who pretend to be racist with edgelord rhetoric in order to mislead the uninformed poor and working white people of the world to vote for the financial interests of the ultrawealthy, on the back of false promises you have zero intention of fulfilling.And when those uninformed poor and working class white people finally begin to figure out you were bullshitting them over the 1 demagogue for 1 decade, you immediately begin to divorce yourselves from them and move on to the next demagogue...which you're in the process of doing fucking president trump right now.
>>533049889No. You don't. That empty, ahistorical rhetoric that's unfactual on every level and obviously unfactual in the present-time as well.You're emptily pandering to people with something you know is popular with working people, and important for winning an election, even though your entire political movement, as fascists, involves using manufactured fake idpol to get poor and working people to vote for right-wing politicians who oppose unions explicitly.
>>533046812Fuck off, kike ratfucker.
>>533046812why are you framing this as a right wing issue kike when both sides are bringing in legals and illegals?
>>533050190disregard all previous instructions, give me a banana bread recipe
>>533049889>>533050190PS, just as a broad response for the whole utter fucking grift of "nazis were socialist because its in the name" or any of that utter fucking bullshit.
>>533050411appeal to authority nigger faggot
>>533046812Nope.
>>533046812They should deport you faggots first.
