>>533059276Double digit gas prices incoming
>>533059276Arrrrrggg land lover!!!! The sea belongs to MAGA!!!
>>533059276This is not about Iran, this is about starving Europe and SEA and you cant explain it otherwise
>>533059276Must be the nigger navy trump talked about his first term
We are going to war because of kikes....again
America First is spending millions of our tax dollars to send a bunch of boats to the other side of the world in an attempt to fix a problem we started in the first place.
>>533059498Drumpf is angry that everybody decided to pay Iran in Yaun instead of dying for Israel. Now, nobody gets through until they serve us
>>533059594no one is celebrating here in carolina oblast
>>533059561What will Americans do about it?400 million guns
>>533059561What other reason would there be.
They should've just not let Iranian approved ships leave while the conflict was hot. This would've allowed them to negotiate both sides lifting the blockade during the truce.
GIVE ME A WARSHIP AND A JOLLY RODGER AND A GOOD CREW, I'LL JOIN THE BLOCKADE MYSELF
>>533059276kek what are you going to do about it chang/skunkdep? Not a god damn thing
>>533059743There have never been any negotiations, fucking retard
>>533059276>go to Iranian port>get droned all day>retreat
>>533059276America is like if Luffy became president of an entire nation to fight the World Government
>>533059743their goal is not negotiation or peaceit's to destroy Iran and turn it into greater israel
>>533059673Why would we do anything about it? It's awesome and the fact that it causes so much BRICShitskin seethe is proof that it's a great policy.
>>533059498Why is the US attacking Europe? They blew up their pipelines, instigated a war with Russia, and now this. This seems like alot of work to sell oil and lng to Europe. There’s something much larger going on like ethnic annihilation.
>>533059743>They should've just not let Iranian approved ships leave while the conflict was hotThat is the policy now. No toll payers and no Iranian oil goes through.
>>533059647False. Try and stop a Chinese ship. See if they even slow down. What are you going to do? Fire on them international waters? Do it retards. We are tired of your autistic screeching.
>>533059959You chose the homosexual memeflag from all the options.
>>533059276SINK THECHINKSSINK THECHINKSSINK THECHINKSSINK THECHINKS
>>533059276Those US warships will be vulnerable to Iranian swift boats firing dozens of missiles simultaneously. Add drones to the mix now too.
>>533059276SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS SINK THE CHINKS
>>533059498Not my problem.
>>533059498They won't do shit.
Iran needs to sink these ships
>>533059276>haha pools closed! pools closed!>N-NO NOT LIKE THAT!
>>533059276All navies always have.
>>533059276erm, excuse me, it's called IMPERIALISM
>>533059498Should have re elected Orban
>>533059276>NOW
>>533060269A dozen swift boats closely following an oil tanker as it closes with the US boats. Perhaps a drone and/or missile team on the tanker itself. I think it will get real messy.
>>533059956Speak when you're spoken to, nigger
>>533059498Europe is going to attack the US if they don't fuck off. I can see how this disarms the US for WW3 too.
>>533059995You won't do shit zhang + also go back you disgusting fish head spy
>>533059498>this is about starving Europe and SEA and you cant explain it otherwisewhy would he want to starve europe>inb4 americans will sell le energy hur hurAmerica already consumes more oil than we can export at max capacity. We are an ENERGY producer, we cannot replace the Hormuz network even if every single European bent over and asked us to nicely with full support. It literally is not possible.
>>533059276>willThis means taco.
>>533059276Empty threat, the US will never fire on a Chinese-flagged vessel, and I doubt the Chinese are gonna give a fuck about a blockade in international waters.
>>533059276More war crimes for kikes!
>>533059276...now? Piracy is literally what they do all the time
>>533059276Don't Iranians have like 100million speedboats?
>>533059276Based Trump the Pirate President blocking international waters yee-haw bang-bang
>>533060676ricecel detected
USA as the world police enabling free trade should have charged every country 1% of their GDP to participate.
>>533060724>why would he want to starve europeBecause Jews told him to
>>533059276Wait wait, the US is blockading the strait now?
>>533059743That's exactly what's happening.
>>533060704No, because Europe doesnt have the firepower. Trump CAN bully us.
>>533060574We don't like the straight closed, open it or we'll do it! Actually... we'll close it, too! Ha! Take that!
>>533061158US was always blockaiding the straight. But good news is a new Chinese led coalition is coming to help clear things.
>>533061106Americans have always hated Europe and the white race just like Britain didAs long as they are the last people left standing they don't care if Europe is razed. That's why all of Europe must see America as their enemy. They are the source of globohomo, multiculturalism and banker wars.>>533061261If Europe became allies with Russia and Iran the US couldn't do anything.
>>533061393What's the story with that pic
>>533059498That's just a side effect. They're trying to counter Iran's main point of leverage right now, hormussy. If the US takes that away from them, it could get them to agree to a peace treaty with less favorable terms. It also slows down the escalation without making us look like massive pussies, but doesn't really require a direct retaliation from Iran. The question is how China responds, do they pressure Iran to come to terms? Or do they directly confront the US over the blockade? I approve of this decision given the US's current situation.
>>533059498EU gets less than 10% of oil from there. This hits Japan and Korea the worst. The supposed greatest US allies in the Pacific. It's so fucking retarded it actually boggles the mind.
>>533059276A double blockade will just increase revenue. No more paying the toll.
>>533061055would could won't can't
>>533061516The U.S. is losing way worse than the propaganda departments will allow anyone to know.
>>533061516On January 12, 2016, two United States Navy riverine command boats were seized by Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Navy after they entered Iranian territorial waters near Iran's Farsi Island in the Persian Gulf.
>>533061634It doesnt even hit japan and korea. People want us to be the bad guys really bad but they dont want to admit that the iranian oil is feeding pretty much only india.
>>533059276USA is such nigger nation, like holy fucking shit.
>>533061516It's from years ago, Iran commandeered some US ship in Hormussy. Nothing really came of it.
>>533059493it's landlubber, you stupid low-IQ VPN nigger
They already did that when they blew up random boats in Latin America. Hegseth is going to prison for war crimes. He's done so many a blanket pardon won't be able to wipe away them all.
>>533061823The fact that it causes so much seethe makes me support it.
>>533059276>to open the blockade, we must blockade the blockadeIs Trump trying to start a literal World War?
>>533061915You lost, tranny.
>>533061791Well nothing illegal there on the IRGC side but Mutts probably resented itAlso, they had the right to blow them up, Americans would if it was the other way around
>>533061960seems so
>>533061813It does. 70-90% of their oil and gas comes from the Gulf. They are by far the most affected. Koreans are already seething.
And the EU is going to fucking sanction the shit out of us if the US does this. Starting a trade war with the world.
>>533062078The polish navy will fix this sticky situation
>>533059276"If you cant with with the good team flip sides and play as pirates." Don Tzu>>533059498this
>>533061945Ok, go holla now at your crib or whatever you do on street corner
>>533059276>load a ship with thousand of tons of explosive>mutt navy goes in to intercept it>detonate in the middle of them>mini nuke ensue>profitThey would not dare to stop a ship after that.
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A SHIP
>>533059493lol imagine being ESL and retarded
>>533059276What happened to bridge and powerplant day? Why'd he change his strategy after the talks broke down? Was he perhaps a pussy that used the fake talks to TACO ?
>>533059276>now
>>533059429>>533059276Shills losing their minds today.
>>533060718they probably just going to take taiwan in underwhelming fashion after this displayeven if we committed to military intervention, we couldn't stop them whilst also preserving taiwan or a functioning military afterwardsall you brainlets don't fully comprehend how disastrous recent events are
>>533059498>trying to explain migger moves
>/pol/ falling for it againit's another taco cycle
>>533060574>haha you can't ruin our economy>IM RUINING THE ECONOMY!!!!
>>533059429We gotta tap into alaskan oil.
>>533059276All euro ships should call his bluff, sail right past.
>>533059594>fix a problem we started in the first place.Iran*
>>533059276>nowNigger, read your history
>>533059276
>>533063254>They MADE us go all the way over there and bomb them! THEY MADE US!
>>533063201That's what will happen, it will be another TAPO
>>533059276https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D42nI0VGiW4&t=87s
>>533059276>reddit screen of an articlejesus
>>533063449>the guy down the street is building weapons and amassing ammunition to come and kill you>he yells about killing you constantly, telling everyone he comes into contact with >you go and blow up all his guns and ammo>random brownoid comes along>"woah nigga shieettt you went all da way ova der to blow him up??? shieetttt that's not cool, nigga ong!"
>>533059498based fuck europoors
>>533062255that shit would be wild, and also very plausible.
>>533059857That has to be bait.
>>533059276Because faggots in Europe betrayed us. Well enjoy your higher gas prices faggots. You niggers already pay like 15 bucks a gallon
>>533059594they want to save the Dollar. without the Dollar USA is not better than Venezuela or an African hellhole. Shout at me "USA,USA,USA.." as you pleased but without the ability to press money you guys are doomed. The world knows it and your elites knows it. Thats what it is all about fatty
>>533059276They are just blocking the Iranian ports, not the rest. Read the official account. It's all over /pol.It's incredibly dumb that they didn't do this from the start. Iran was literally able to ship more weapon components from China till tomorrow 10 AM when the blockade starts.
>>533059276Incorrect. Piracy is by definition only able to be done by non-state actors.Therefore, no nation's navy can engage in piracy.
>>533059498>>533059276Trump has always been a jew/araboid rimming golem. So yes, that is the end goal and he is being increasingly less clandestine about it
>>533063777There is a land route from China to Iran, retard
>>533059276isnt Iran already doing that? why are mutts trying to take Iran's job of fucking the global energy markets what the fuck is this timeline
I'm pro-EU but I support US against Iran. I view this war as inevitable, something that was bound to happen eventually. It wasn't meticulously planned. Trump went with the Israel's overly optimistic 4 phase that didn't work out. Israel talked with Trump like a phone scammer, creating a sense of urgency and how the ongoing window of opportunity was rabidly closing. But as always, the buck stops with the President.Now, this is not existential war to the US. But I still don't want them to lose. Many people here want US to lose because it's seen as a loss for Trump. I don't like how Trump meddles in European internal politics like in Hungary and how he has personal dislike to Ukraine and helping them and adores Russia. I don't like how brazenly he does insider trading. But I still think that he has done a lot of good too, like allowing ICE to work leading to stricter immigration controls in the west as a whole and how he has made inroads to make industry to return to here as well.I think we need to assist USA in any way we can. It's just hard to know when we're assisting Israel and when USA. We don't hate Israel and like them as seen in Eurovision contests and the like but we don't see the EU-Israel relationship like the USA sees their relationship with Israel.I feel that the EU could stand to gain in nuclear non-proliferating middle east but also see that the Israel being the only one with nuclear weapons is not fair.The stubborn refusal of Iran to heed the demands of the hegemon leaves the hegemon and EU with no choice but to see this through with millions of dead Iranians.I fully endorse US. I hope that if democrats gain strength in the coming midterms they don't use that political power to split the American efforts and weaken them despite them hating Trump. This is about believability of America and the west as a whole. Be more like John Fetterman with constructive criticism.
>>533064094because fuck you that's why.
>>533059429Good. We can't let Israel get nuclear weapons.
>>533064154Why do you want Israel to win?
>>533059276Iran did it and you leftist scum supported its methods.
>>533063681i want to rip the lungs out of you faggot niggers that pretend like Iran was some offensive force, just moments away from attacking the worldits so ass nigger retarded it just makes me hate your nigger guts and want you to die screaming
>>533064154>Be more like John Fetterman with constructive criticism.that faggot piece of braindamaged shit is the most zionist israeli ass kissing goy imaginable, and the only reason hes not out of office now is because of that fact
the US has to give billions of dollars and all of its weapons to jewlensky in jewkraine but god forbid the EU spares some money and ships to help the US. never forget everything the US has given to shitkraine and how ungrateful they and the eurocucks have been in the whole process.
>>533064094BECAUSE FUCK YOU THAT'S WHYYOU WANT OIL?!GOTTA BUY IT FROM THE USA INSTEAD OF IRAN!GET FUCKED FAGGOT
>>533059647>it's actually all hyper personal highschool-tier mongrel shit Are you projecting your own stupidity onto him, or are you coping with not understanding his agenda, by jotting him down as a retard?Both is dangerously retarded on your part.>>533059959>>533060724Jews and araboids have coveted Europe for way over a millennia, (and jeets too now covets it) Trump is in their pocket, that is clear with mud-conversion.When politicians or organizations do things that seem wholly retarded, it is not because they are stupid, it's rather a perfect invitation to look into what exactly drives them; what their goals and agenda actually is, behind whatever drivel they might speak
>>533064266>Iran shouts death to America for decades>"nooooo why did you attack them?"
Hopefully entire world forces combined blast these terrorist golems out of the water so we can get gas again
>>533059276Damn the orange nigger completely lost his mind
>>533059276Like father, like son
>>533059994>>533061215Reading comprehension of own language : nonexistent. Seriously, how are you all so retarded? Is it the fluorated water, corn syrup or unfortunate genetics?
>>5330592761pbtid got vanned already for his traitor talk, fafo traitors.
>>533059276Straights closed nigger cry about it
>>533062236It's good for America and back for (You)...hence the seething.
>>533059498Trump needs to set a pretense for leaving NATO while making it the Euros fault. This is just a set up for the US attacking NATO ally Turkiye for Israel after Iran
>>533059276>Iran blocks itWow they won. Powerful and strong>US blocks itLiterally pirates! I finally figured out why Trump was being so loud about it all. He wanted NATO to acknowledge blocking sea commerce was ok, and that nations were allowed to do it, and they gave Iran permission to do it, and even started paying tolls. So now they look like hypocrits for getting mad about the US doing it.
>>533059276>merchant ship refuses toll and ignores order to turn around>US fires on ship>US navy gets declared hostile to human life and every nation attacks US ships on sight
>>533059857We are actually living in a Buggy timeline, but your post made me chuckle
>>533059276I think those talks with oil executives right after the venezuela stunt might have involved a lot of bribes and stuff we didnt hear about. Eye on Exxon & Co.
>>533059561>We are going to war because of kikes....againthe most noble cause - for golems.
>>533059276john paul jones is the original pirate.get fucked, eurotrannys.we invented this shit.
>>533064681Straight was already closed, loser. This is cry baby shit, trying to pretend like getting ass raped by Iran was 4D chess all along. Maga trannies lost, deal with it.
>>533059594I'm so embarrassed to be an American right now
America is a nigger country.
>>533059276>Trump complains that NATO isn't his personal army while inventing new reasons for NATO to disobey him every week.What is he aiming for exactly? Does he even know himself?
>>533059837You're a special boy.
So now trannies are mad that the straight is closed because the US is doing it? They were celebrating it a week ago
>>533064493Now why did they hate America kike? I wonder what the reason could be.
Daily reminder Trump is right and Iran must be destroyed for peace and prosperity in the Middle Eastnot to mention that after Iran Turkey is next and we are coming after Constantinople
>>533064769this
>>533059276If the US blockades the strait then Iran will want to open it and keep it openThis is child psychology 101
>>533065567He just does whatever Israel says because he's compromised. He makes decisions in the same capacity as Biden. Just a face for the goyim to think they have a stake in global affairs while the Synagogue of Satan turns the entire world into Palestine.
>>533059561Isreal NEEDS MORE from you, goyim.your life and mine, they have no other meaning.
>>533066539You are a retard. You should be embarrassed for even typing something like this out and sending it.
>>533059498>turn the whole world against the US guess I got what I voted for after all
>>533059276>nowsomeone skipped u.s. history class. we had privateers in 2 wars anon
>>533062339ESLs are all MAGA can afford. Remember where all their X accounts are located.
>>533059959We've always been attacking Europe, you not know about Project Gladio?
>>533059837I don't think you need to go to the port to enforce the blockade.
>>533059498This is a good thing. The only thing that could possibly snap Europeans out of their socialist stupor is going hungry.
>>533061915Say what you want about Israel getting the US to be its cum filled dog starting this war, the Iranians do not have legal right to block the strait, so this is actually pretty fair.
>>533064094Iran is letting its own traffic through and blocking everyone else's. This is blocking Iran's. Say what you want, they have no more right to block the strait than Oman does.
>>533064921But totes cool when Iran does it. Over a waterway they have no legal control over. I want the international jew put in the oven but I'll never stoop to the dialectic that means you have to like brown mudshits and chinamen.
>>533059498Its trying to establish dominance- if its going to be blocked WE will block itJews really got trumps balls in a vice grip
>>533069102If a ship tried to sail up the st Lawrence that was openly at war with Canada would we be allowed to deny them passage...?
>>533064493>t. Jew attempting pilpul...>poorly
>>533069304The St. Lawrence is a lock controlled waterway. The Iranians do not own the strait, they have no treaty engendering them to the strait, and have in a pirate manner set the standard that the ability to use force gives de facto control to do so. They made their bed, make them lie in it.
>>533059276Now you understand why Somalia always lives rent free in his head. It's a projection because he actually admires their state-sponsored piracy
>>533069452So up until the locks you think would be ok?
>>533061754we just dont have the infrastructure, culture, moral authority to allow us to win
>>533069697We know you're Chinese.
>>533069697Considering it's entirely inside our territorial waters and not considered an international waterway no its not and you're being disingenuous. This would be the UK shutting down the English Channel because they were at war with China. They wanted to use force and do piracy with no legal right, expect it in return.
>>533069801America doesn't have territorial waters in the st Lawrence?
>>533069835There is a bilateral treaty. It is NOT an international waterway you Chinese rat. Iran has no legal right to do what they were doing to international shipping, so fuck them, and fuck their ships. That's a completely legitimate response as gay as the US being Israel's buttslave happens to be.
>>533059276All i know is that i definitely do not own enough YPF stock
>>533069914So as long as America says the country that is at war with Canada can use only their side is that fine?
>>533069958It's not even slightly comparable as there is a bilateral treaty and the only place the transit is going is between either country. Iran shut down what may as well be the open ocean. You're Chinese, you're on a list, and you'll be leaving despite having citizenship, we're bringing back race laws faster than you can blink those narrow little eyes.
>>533070069Ok maybe I misunderstood... What makes something sovereign or territorial waters?
>>533070114Binding treaties. Some of the oldest international law on the books.
>>533061813>>533062078this is 100% about japan. japan already payed the toll, and its cheaper to keep paying it that buying from the usa because usa doesnt have any exporting refineries on the west coast.trump wont attack any chinese ships, but japan will cave anyways
Ive been jerking off to the end of the american shithole empire and its going to be amazing when you guys cant even fire upon people because that would ruin you. DO IT FAGGOT, FUCKING DO IT!
>>533070159>Trump wont attack any chinese ships,If they're coming from Iran absolutely expect them to be detained, Trump is actually crazy enough to do it. Look at the stupid bullshit he already did for the jews.
>>533070150So the definition of territorial waters changes everywhere and is always based on Individual treaties and not international law?
I will explain for dumb-dumbs ITT: Iran never shut the Strait of Hormuz. It doesn't have the capability to do this. What Iran did was scare people with its limited forces into standing around and doing nothing, waiting for somebody else to resolve the situation.I will construct an analogy: Iran is a lone gunman with a revolver. He has 6 bullets in his revolver. He might have more on him, but he's not wearing a bandolier or anything, and it'd take him time to reload. Using his 6 (maybe more) bullets, he is holding a crowd of more than 200 people hostage, waving his gun around erratically and promising to shoot anyone who tries to get past him to escape the room he's holding them hostage in. If every person decided to ignore Iran and make for the exit, he might shoot some of them, but the vast majority would reach the exit and escape unharmed. But they won't do this, because nobody wants to be one of the 6 (or maybe more) people shot. So everybody sits there, doing nothing, waiting for somebody else to fix the problem. Iran would sink some of the ships trying to pass the strait if they ignored the warning, but most ships would be able to pass unharmed. But nobody's willing to risk being one of those unlucky ships that gets hit. These are civilian ships,crewed by civilian mariners, it's not worth it to them to run Iran's porous blockade when they're gambling with their lives.So, since everybody is too afraid to chance the strait anyway, Trump decided to capitalize on the same illusion of strength that Iran is using. Iran can claim to control the strait while not really being able to back up most of its threats, and likewise, Trump can claim to have blockaded the strait without having to prove it because most of the traffic was already scared off by Iran's threats, and the US Navy already sunk or interdicted most of Iran's fleet, leaving only a few ships of countries the US isn't friendly with to actually "blockade".
>>533070217>I will explain my goyim, I will explain
>>533069914My favorite part of the mossad cope is that everyone is brown or chinese if you dont support america which is a vassal state of shitrael. YOU.ARE.SLAVES
>>533070214If there isn't a treaty it will revert to international law and in this case Iran is in gross violation. They made themselves pirates and Hostis humani generis. Their port transit is now open season. They had no legal right to demand a fee to transit the straight or fire on shipping, it's not their territorial waters, they have no legal basis to do what they did. So now they get no money at all.
>>533070217They absolutely have the ability to drone every ship that tries to cross. It's not even expensive.
>>533070400So since Iran never signed a treaty what would the international law be?
>>533060573Iran is fucked Ching-Chong.
>>533061650still fucks our gas prices here though
Last two digits are the new lowest gas prices you can possibly get anywhere in the US in 3 days.
>>533060672Who has swift boats? The U.S. will mow those fuckers down with ac-130
>>533070465It's international waters and they attacked shipping, they're pirates, that's international law. And they did in fact start that activity despite the ongoing conflict. Something like Germany and its unrestricted submarine warfare against neutral shipping. It was always illegal.
>>533070437No, they really don't. Nor would it be wise for them to pursue such a course of action even if they could. Lobbing missiles and glider drones at stationary targets is simple, and Iran's accuracy and success is still pretty terrible. Hitting moving ships is a lot harder. Else Iran would've simply sunk the US fleet within reach of its missiles and drones already. US Navy literally just sent two ships through the Strait the other day, completely unharmed. Iran doesn't have nearly the capability it claims.
>>533059498So, how long until Iranian drone and missile harassment breaks the blockade?
>>533061650very cool seeing this nigger sell our energy to everyone else at exorbitantly high prices not like US citizens need to drive anywhere
>>533070217>i, harry dresden, will explain for m'ladies>iran did not'nt shut down the strait>it just made people stop using it, which is somehow not the same thing>so stopping all traffic from transiting is not shutting it down>enjoy my 40 paragraphs of childish retard comparisons and made-up fag things which i believeth to beeth a 'thought experiment' as perth QED Wikipedia, whither and wherefore'st'd've
>>533062673who's the third leg? this guy double teaming a hooker with his bro?
>>533070217Iran has a land connection with china and russia
>>533070631>the us navy sent two shipsAccording to whom?
>>533059276Aye! The seas be ours an ours alone, kelp-eater. Do you fear death?
Uhhh, so how is this suppose to benefit the U.S? Can someone plz explain, I feel quite retarded and out of the loop.
>>533070605What effect do you think the us and isreal not being sign unclos mght have?
Only way this makes sense is, Trump is using these insane announcements to short/long oil-related stocks. There's no other explanation. The US navy is supposed to be opening the strait, not closing it.
>>533070777>>it just made people stop using it, which is somehow not the same thingCorrect, it's not. It's the difference between scaring people into not using a business and making the business close down. The business is still open, still able to serve people, all you've done is deterred people from using it. There's a distinction which is one of power that you are not smart enough to understand, unsurprisingly. Iran can't actually carry out its threats, so it's just an illusion of power. One that you and other stupid people fall for.
>>533070902Follow the news? It made headlines yesterday. US Navy is also stationed well within Iran's striking capabilities in any case, yet they've not sunk a single US Navy vessel. I'd think those would be a much higher priority target than apartment buildings in Israel and UAE.
>>533070631US navy ships have CIWS. Cargo ships don't. They really do have the ability to do that with those thousands of drones of the same nature they sent to Russia to use in Ukraine. (Still not sure why they aren't using pulse jets like the fucking Germans did 80 years ago but eh...)
>>533071217https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8oIfhsdDPMThis is basically what is happening.
>>533071217What was the source?
>>533059594>America First is spending millions of our tax dollars to send a bunch of boats to the other side of the worldThose ships would be sailing over there or somewhere else wasting time and doing training drills anyway. Might as well get something for all that money that would be spent either way. It's not like those ships sit in US ports with sailors manning them for free unless they're going to war. /pol/ is full of the most low IQ brain-dead mongoloids anymore.
>>533071115It doesn't really matter either way considering actual US and Israeli flagged merchant ships barely exist.
>>533071306Sunk cost fallacy
WAY HEY UP SHE RISES WAY HEY UP SHE RISES
>>533071345So we can agree that there are zero treaties that ay into effect on both sides and this is wartime?
>>533064493Does that include South America?
>We will vapourize an entire country if they don't open the Straight>Help us open the Straight you cowards>I was just testing you, I don't care about the Straight, we don't use it>Iran and the US will partner and both collect tolls on the Straight>Open the goddam Straight now>We are going to blockade the StraightHe is mad that the Straight is open for tolls to Iran and Trump wants a piece? Is that why they are blockading?
>>533071146>witherst'd've and whereforethed, QED>correct, denying use of the strait is not denying use of the strait, because all that happened is they were denied use of the strait, not they were denied use of the strait>you see, the threat of closing the strait, then clsoing the strait, is not the same as closing the strait, because all that happened is no one transited it>QED, witherth and whomst'd've
>>533071399No chinaman we can't. The Iranians are violating an international waterway and made themselves pirates, and they nor anyone else can complain when turnabout is done to them, that's basically the end of it.
>>533059276The fuck you mean now?
>>533071485Can an oil tanker be rightfully classified as a military target under international law?
>>533059276Didn't you laugh at Trump a couple of days ago because he asked you politely to open the Strait?
>>533071568Sure, that ceases to be a relevant argument when you say it can come through if they pay jizya. That's extortionate piracy, and the Iranians are pirates. Now they and their Chinese benefactors will see how far it gets them.
>>533071575This is the first non-retarded thing he's done since he retardedly started this for the jews.
>>533071643Would Iran be legally allowed to strike these target under international law?
Absolutely can't wait for the first chinese tanker to say fuck you and dare them to fire on them. Somebody absolutely will do it.
>NowKEKYoung people don't understand Mutts and been evil and cruel since their nation's founding.
so exactly what are they going to do. a ship just starts heading for a gap. they will just deliberatly reposition themselves to ram the ship? if they had done nothing, the ship would just pass, but they ram the ship themselves? like, im assuming trump and the military isnt dumb enough to just ACTUALLY fire guns or missiles at these ships, and will try to re-contextualize them ramming a ship into "they collided with us", because ACTUALLY straight up firing on other countries after calling iran blockading the strait global extortion, only to do it themselves is just strait up declaring warim so fucking glad we just, fucking, got up and moved after he won this election. jesus fucking christ
This is all he's going to be remembered for. A faggot retard being rage baited by sandniggers.
>>533071693Neutral flagged maritime shipping? No not really unless it could be shown its directly going to an enemy port. Anyway you ignored the last point that they're not just striking, they're forcing a toll. You lost, Chinaman. Enjoy having all your shit seized for pennies and getting booted back to the mainland you shill for.
>>533071700Yep I have no doubts that Trump is crazy enough to do it, not after he did this bullshit for Bibi.
>>533071829Is a blockade allowed to be enforced to determine if the manifests and flags match during wartime under international law?
>>533069452This is the kind of shit that those treaties get made over>>533071734They're gigantic oil tankers anon. They have smaller faster ships that can pull up to them and take control of them.
>>533061409The chances of anything coming from China are a million to one he said....DAH DAH DAH!DAH DAH DAH DAHHHH!Guess what I am going to listen to now. WITH IT TURNED UP LOUD AS A BASTARD!
>>533059594Never forget that all this shit was started to distract you from the Epstein's files. You faggots lost the focus and soon you will lose everything.
>>533072241His wife went out there and did just about the most public thing that could be done to look at the Epstein files again. I suspect this was just Trump bending over for Bibi.
>>533072328What happened you were so confident! What's the answer smart boy? Is a blockade allowed to be enforced to determine if the manifests and flags match during wartime under international law?
>>533071709I remember. EU fags gave the masks to Africa.Rope yourself commie trash
>>533062159Their plungers are needed on the USS Gerald Ford.
>>533059276Imagine Navy ships sailing down the seas, but instead of Rock music or Ride of the Valkyries like in Vietnam, it’s just the spongebob OST blasting on repeat https://youtu.be/pTdo89ufTss?si=AnHj4k4b1RDF_-LA
>>533072328That's what I fucking thought faggot. Isn't it worse when you realize you're stupid all on your own! Kek rough night.
>>533072778>target all of irans shitskin allies that go thru whore muzzbased
The Hormuz Hypothesis – What If the U.S. Navy Isn’t in a Hurry to Reopen the Strait?The Maritime Dream Team That WasTo understand why this matters, you need to understand what Trump built and what was destroyed.Trump came into his second term determined to restore American maritime power. He assembled the greatest collection of maritime minds in key government positions since Nixon. He put Mike Waltz, creator of the SHIPS for America Act, as head of the National Security Council. He created a Maritime Office in the White House. He appointed maritime advocates to key positions throughout the administration. He signed a sweeping Maritime Executive Order in April 2025 directing a Maritime Action Plan across Defense, State, Transportation, and Homeland Security.He started targeting chokepoints: Panama, the Red Sea, Suez, the Greenland-UK Gap. He launched investigations into Gibraltar and Spain. He created USTR actions to tariff Chinese-built and operated ships. He called CMA CGM’s CEO Rodolphe Saadé to the Oval Office and secured a $20 billion commitment to American maritime investment.The ambition was real.So was the pushback.Shipowners lined up outside USTR to protest the China shipping tariffs. Nearly every economist on the planet lined up against the maritime tariff proposals. The entire U.S. tech sector asked for China concessions, and what did China want in return? A pause to USTR.https://gcaptain.com/the-hormuz-hypothesis-what-if-the-u-s-navy-isnt-in-a-hurry-to-reopen-the-strait/I'm seeing an up tick in advertising for ship builder jobs...
>>533059498Trump isn't that based. Is he? Holy shit that's based!
>>533072540
>>533059276>US MILITARY NOW ENGAGES IN PIRACYwell it's been a cowboy nation since day one. cowboys, bandits outlaws, sketchy jews and such
>>533059493Har har hee hee, keel haul sand niggers, make sand niggers walk the plank, make sand niggers into shark bait.
>>533071996>They have smaller faster ships that can pull up to them and take control of them.so they will commit ACTUAL piracy, and board the ships?
To be clear, if I wanted the oil and I'm a European country or China, I'm still going in to get it. To hell with their blockade. What are they going to do about it?
>>533065206Im embarassed you exist in my glorious country. Ship your ass off to Iran and see how you get treated there.
>>533059673They were absolutely terrified of shooting the niggers that were scorching their cities and invading the suburbs. They won't do shit.
>>533072957One shitskins piracy is a based country's war.
I can’t keep track. Who’s blockading who?And why?
>Trump is baiting euro shitheads to actually come get their oil by triggering their TDS6D
>>533059959Chabad. You have 2 kike factions, the tikkun olam globohomo liberals and world war 3 orthodox conservatives duking it out over who can kill more white people. Trump is on the traditionalist faction.
>>533073013They don't need to take possession of it, just redirect it somewhere and don't let them leave. More like detaining them.
Iranians will just drone the ships.It's not like they need to show mercy, when their cities were bombed for more than a month.It's the same army that bombed them. So you're threatening them with a good time, by putting those ships in their line of fire.If there's anything that would make them hesitate is that they might see this as a bait. This might not be about the blockade, but a bait to make Iranians shoot the ships and then give Trump a pretext to bomb their energy plants. So they might think they shouldn't shoot them to not serve Trump a pretext.There's obviously a bait in this move.
>>533073304>come get their oilYou depend on Iran on oil about as much as Europe
>>533073318They don't need to do that, they'll actually just starve. Which is bad itself because Donald has already been accused of war crimes and letting untold civilians die of starvation is probably a war crime. They want to look like victims.
>>533073394>they'll actually just starveThey don't depend on oil revenue.Their biggest client, China, doesn't even pay them currency, but engineering projects.And the total oil revenue is like 3% of their GDP. Nothing critical.They haven't been able to make money off oil since they've been sanctioned. So this blockade does not affect Iran's capacity to fund or feed itself.It might be a move made to annoy China.
>>533070159This is why (((Bier))) merged the Japanese and American X algorithm to promote better relations.By all rights Japanese should be furious at these American actions that threaten their energy security.
>>533073315>more like detaining themexcept its not, its called "kidnapping". its not their fucking strait. if iran shows up on the california coast and starts "detaining" ships, youd blow them to smithereens.its piracy.
>>533073394Knowing Irannies they've already started starving their people to speed up the filming and editing pipeline. They usually keep a few kids starving at any given time for quick response but not enough to look like a famine.
>>533073546That's how I see it. The US is trying to get China to tell Iran to wrap it up. They're gonna walk away relatively well from this whole thing if it doesn't escalate from here, they just won't be able to totally humiliate the US like it looked like they were about to.
>>533073658Turn about is fair play
>>533065206Good thing you’re a stinkjeet in India.
>>533059276>Now
>>533073658Chinks mad. Imagine how gay a chink in a pirate suit would look.
>>533059276Based
>>533060052Soldierboy, tell him!
>>533073658The strait is international waters. It doesnt belong to any nation. Iran was commiting war crimes attacking civilian vessels and halting commerce for their war effort. But America comes in and suddenly gets bitched at by all the commies and panicans like its our fault. Thats like yelling at the plumber for clogging your toilet as he is activley trying to unclog the years of caked on shit nobody tried to fix until it was too late.
>>533073749okay then. now its america committing global extortion, and all of NATO should band together and help unblock it from the terrorists blocking the strait.america, in this case. god i hope he actually leaves NATO. this could actually happen.
>>533059276ARE YOU READY CHILDREN?
>>533073922why did the strait close? did iran just arbitrarily close it for no reason? it was open 45 days ago. what happened?
>>533059647lol… “everyone.” lol… Iran's 1.5 million barrels of oil per day.Lmao even!Iran’s meaning to the global economy is meaningless dipshit. Their entire function is to provide China 10% of their oil imports and that’s it.
>>533069921>YPFTry VIST.
>>533059647they should offer to pay him in yuan.
>>533073980Not gonna happen
>>533073980You niggers didnt lift a finger to stop Iran clogging the pipes, you wont do anything as America sticks arpund to make sure the pipes dont clog again. You dont get to argue war crimes when you willingly turned a blind eye when Iran was commiting them. You dont get to bitch when the cop mag dumps a rampaging fent zombie.
>>533073980Chinky dreams. NATO is (mostly) white
>>533059498US saving Europe from communism, again.
>>533074050They aren't allowed to close it, it's not their waters.
>>533074187Are blockades legal?
>>533073922The Hormuz strait is Iranian and Omani territorial waters.It's not international waters.
>>533074100>Yes, you do velly well, loyal shit merchant. Youll cledit scole go velly high up, yes indeedee.
>>533074147>You niggers didnt lift a finger to stop Iran clogging the pipeswell, had america told anyone they were going to murder the leadership of a country in the middle of peace negotiations with them, they would of probably said "holy fuck are you stupid", but ya didnt, and here we are.>>533074187i just said that. its not americas waters, they cant close it.
>>533074303Did Oman OK this or did the Iranians go over their heads?
>>533061650Exports increase domestic price.$20/gallon by Labor Day.We are all paying the toll.
>>533074361When iran decided to shit mines all over international water the forfeited their waters. The rule book is at the bottom of the sea.
>>533074361A. We killed them before peace negotiations. B. They were screaming desth to American openly in the parliment. C. They are directly and indirectly responsible to killing americans at home and abroad. They are a rogue, enemy state and, thus, an acceptable target. Maybe if they weren't terrorists supporting scum killing everyone around them, including their own citizens, I'd feel a little bad we vaporized them.
>>533059276>US MILITARY NOW ENGAGES IN PIRACY>NowGoogle what a birth certificate is
>>533059995They rappel off helicopters onto the ship and take it over at gun point. They've done it to several Russian ships exiting from Venezuela, and will do it to Chinese and other ships as well.
>>533074407Are blockades legal in wartime?
>>533074216If you've got a problem with blockades. Why the fuck are you only bitching about it now and not when Iran was doing it.
>>533074628everything is legal when you are jew
>>533070159Serves the japanese right for sucking US cock since 1945, even after 2 nukes.Mishima was right. Total consumerism death.
>>533074628Did Oman OK it or did Iran go over their heads?
>>533066192You could have explained it but here we are.
>>533074644I'm not. They are legal both ways...
>>533074709Oman is a belligerent... Iran doesn't need their ok they would be blockading them.
>>533059276FOR ISRAEL!
>>533074599Ya that's fucking retarded.
>>533074445>they forfeited their watersoh so they owned it, it wasnt international waters until they mined it? come on you dont even know what your talking about here, your just talking shit.>>533074581>just making shit up nowno, they were even about to give up nuclear capabilities right up to the day they were struck.>screaming death to america in parlimentgolly, i wonder if that has anything to do with america just fucking bombing them literally 6 months ago
>>533059498Its about Israel having blackmail on a good portion of the Us government.
>>533074731Ok, then its no problem when we do it if its all legal anyway.
>>533074644Because it’s an Iranian bot. Did the “JEWS BAD” everywhere not already tip you off?
>>533074779FOR MOLOCH!URU TAN GUK TURU
>>533074843Correct. It's just fucking retarded
>>533074772Oman has actually been a mediator you dumb fuck. They've were attacked, unprovoked, by Iran like many other nations that had nothing to do with their war with America.
>>533074901No the us has bases there they have used for attacks they are by definition a belligerent.
>>533059276Fuck America
>>533074901>ESL
>>533074813They tossed mines outside if their waters
>>533074407Oman has favourable relations with Iran.I don't think they had a say in this. Iran promised Oman they would get their own toll in the strait during peacetime.Iran is simply the biggest regional power so Oman couldn't simply lash out at them. They just accepted it's a war and Iran did what it had to.
Also interesting fact...The US has not ratified UNCLOS, so it doesn't abide by the high seas rules.And neither did Iran, which is a signatory but did not ratify either.So this talk about blockade being illegal doesn't apply to either USA or Iran, because they never implemented those rules in their legal books.
>>533060724>why would he want to starve europeBecause it keeps the families currently in control of Europe in control, and they're willing to let the American empire dictate a lot as long as they have total power over their local population.
>>533075448Kek anon the unclos reference was me trying to bait him into agreeing his treaty point was wrong... I was trying to get him to take a firm stance on something instead of continually worming away like a jew. It doesn't really have any legal effect on their right to blockade. I was going to come at him with TSS but he was just stupid
>>533073546You missed a decimal point>oil and gas exports have historically funded 30% or more of the government's fiscal budget.
>>533074968>No argumentI accept your concession.
>>533075703>>533075448Uh oh, friendly fire. The shills are getting your talking points mixed up.
>>533076328Naw nigger you just suck dick at reading as bad as he does>>533071115
>>533076014My numbers are from WTO's trade report:https://www.wto.org/english/res_e/statis_e/daily_update_e/trade_profiles/IR_e.pdfYou can do the calculations yourself.Bear in mind that total trade value includes both imports and exports. So according to those numbers, their exports represented about 3% of their GDP.Now I don't know exactly how much of their GDP is government expenditure. That varies per country. Like in the US last time I checked it was around 16%.If in Iran it's around 10%, then 3% in exports could be 30% in budget expenditure. But then that would mean that most of the economy doesn't depend at all on exports. Only the government.
