Theres no way either of these cucks are gonna win if they try running for president in 2028
>>533132132Nobody is going to vote for either of these homosexuals
im going to runa broke nobody from who gives a shiti will fix everytjing
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>>533132132vance knows this and isn't going to run
I try not to be too much into america gay ass politics, I see a lot of shitposting and making fun of JD but the other guy Rubio or whaterver is his name has like a cult on some channels on social media, what can you amerifriends tell me about that guy?Also yeah if AOC runs then she will just show her ass once and she will win by a landslide lmao
>>533132132you'd be surprised how little track records matterI remember in 2015 they were touting Jeb! as the nominee. This is even after the shitshow of Bush 2. It was so brazen and ridiculous that I think it was the kickoff to the trump farce.It was only Trump as the wild card that upset that. Literally no other factor could have derailed it.One of these faggots will be the nominee, and they'll have a fair chance at winning.
>>533132132I don't see a Republican winning the presidency for the next 10 years. ZIon Don is a Bush level of disaster.
thiel faction or adelson faction
>>533132344Rubio is a standard issue neocon who used to be a nevertrumper but bent the knee and sucks his dick now. "Little Marco" used to be Trump's nickname for him when they were adversaries.He's a big time Cuban gusano (Cuban Americans who constantly advocate for anticommunist regime change in Cuba) which is ironic because his family originally moved to America to escape the Batista regime (the American backed dictator who was overthrown by Castro). The speculation is overthrowing Maduro and the Cuban blockade are his pet projects and Trump just lets him do it.
Vance is a smaller loss than Rubio, but there's no way they can win.Trump's war on Israel's behalf absolutely sunk everything. What a fucking retard.
>>533132132Rubio might avoid being destroyed by this is he somehow separates himself by action. Vance is fucked. To be fair though by the time Trump is done the entire right wing might be done for awhile.
>>533132132You lost, Iranny.
>>533132266He'll runThat was part of the agreement made when Peter Thiel bought him the VP slotWhether he makes it past New Hampshire in the primaries is another storyBut he will run
>>533132132>Theres no way either of these cucks are gonna win if they try running for president in 2028the GOP is done, their party is totally deranged and evil now. Its over.
this uglyass gargoyle unironically has the best chance right now. she's the most distanced from the current failing administration
>>533132813Vance still has a double digit primary lesd next to his nearest opponent.Rubio was single digits in November last I checked, lower than several other picks. Donors, the Israeli types, really like Rubio though.I do think Vance will sit 28 out though.
>>533132344>>533132619Oh also this meme image of him you may have seen is from when Trump and Vance did their "Have you said thank you?" public humiliation ritual on Zelensky. It's funny because Rubio used to be a big anti-Russia pro-NATO guy so he just has to sit there in the cuck chair and watch Trump and Vance shit all over one of his old foreign policy projects.
>>533132132Why can't we have the Cruz missile?He's probably the only relatively mainstream politician, democrat or republican, that wouldn't make me feel totally hopeless if they became president.Massie would be best but there is no way that can happen.
>>533132422People keep comparing term 2 Trump to Bush and I think it's funny how it's basically one year so far being compared with 8, not that I see a potential recovery in sight but it's just so outstandingly irreversibly disastrous already.
>>533132217People like that actually make the best leaders.
>>533133284Cruz is a gigantic fucking Ziocuck, like even by Republikike standards.
>>533133382I had somehow missed that. Well then, I hope there are no candidates from either party and the system collapses.
>>533133033Even if there wasn't an existing agreement, why would he wait?2028 will be his only shot at the White House. What's he going to do, come back in 2032 and say "Remember when I was Vice President"?The only reason that worked for Biden in 2020 was because Obama left office with a remarkably high approval rating and Trump was actively fucking up the Covid response so people had nostalgia glasses onVance won't have that. If Trump's approval rating somehow miraculously recovers he'll run in 2028If it doesn't, he'll never get another chance after 2028This is all assuming Trump is still in office by the 2028 election and Vance isn't the acting incumbent
>>533133367The world need more absolute nobodies in politics that come and go as soon as their mandate ends. Impossible to kike before because it could be nobody, impossible the keep them kiked because they would just leave mandate is over. Impossible to blackmail through previous actions because they are literally nobody.The worst possible creation in human history is the career politician.
>>533132132Massie '28, all the way.
>>533132266>>533132813The only chance the jeetfucker baby face is to 25th the orange bitch and hope that's enough.
okay, if vance and rubio cant win, this implies someone else can, but the reality is no one is clamoring for president ted cruz or desantis the GOP is just fucked this cycle, have to wait till democrat president gets too cocky and implemenets anti normal people laws while not fixing the economy to win in the 2030s
>>533132997>the GOP selecting a woman as their candidateTIP TOP ZOZZLE
>>533133862It's not like the democrats have any fantastic candidates, although I'm sure people can somehow and for some unknown reason get excited for either Kamala or Newsom.
Who can the Democrats run against them? They have literally nobody and you can't beat a somebody with a nobody.
>>533132132The Democrats are going to run a guy whose wife killed her sister and fucked Harvey Weinstein to further her career (and then asked him for money on behalf of Gavin). That's not even to mention Gavin fucked his best friend and campaign manager's wife and ran California into the ground so bad that there's aass exodus from the state.
>>533134084First female president but this time for real
>>533134027Newsom has the best chance esp. if he runs against jeetlover, brown Marco, or a woman like MTG.Problem is Newsom will lose handily in the primaries to a woman like AOC, Kumala, or a female jew outta left field.If you think they are going to put a non-boomer white man as the front runner think again - he's their most rational choice which means he loses the primary
>>533134027demon rats are going to win because trump fucked the economy, started a stupid war, and they want revenge.it doesnt matter who the democrats run, they will win
>>533134315That shrill 12 year old girl voice of hers gives people a migraine.
>>533134321Newsoms too much of a traditional democrat to have a chance of winning. Half of the reason why trump won twice was because people wanted stuff to change drasticly.
>>533134531I wonder if someone made this exact post on Usenet in 2002?
>>533134321Retarded take. It's going to be Gavin with a token as a VP. Either Vance or Rubio have a good chance at beating him but it depends on how well the second half of Trump's term goes.
>>533134159A philanderer with a whore wife with a record of being a brutally incompetent head executive of the organizations he's run? What kind of retarded party would make someone like that their candidate?
>>533134321The Dem primaries are going to be between the neolibs and the progressives. Whoever the neolib candidate is is going to be coordinated well in advance like in 2020 how all the candidates besides Bernie and Biden dropped out to rally behind Biden. It probably wone be Kamala because she already failed several time over (She's a neolib, not a progressive) The progressive wing is going to be divided and a shitshow. AOC has momentum in her favor but begin in favor of "defensive weapons" for Israel and liberal zionist cuckouts have created a very dedicated hater group for her among the most hardcore progressives who should in theory be her strongest supporters. I think Ro Khanna is more appealing to these sorts of people but ultimately the big time purity testing campist types aren't going to approve of any Democrat ever.
Republicans still havent realized that Trump voters don't actually give a fuck about a single issue, they care about trump. Trump could have reversed in the middle of his campaign and become the farthest left political the US has ever seen and would still have a huge following. Neither Marco nor Vance have a chance because none of their policies nor the actions of the current administration are popular among Americans, Trump is. Neither of them are anything like trump or come close to mimicking the character that his supports love and so they have literally no chance. Republicans have bet it all on a cult of personality and now in 2028 it will be the largest dem landslide in history.
One other problem is that Newsom doesn't give Democrats any electoral advantage, he's from a safe blue state and not a must-win swing state.
>>533134780kamala is already beating gavin in the polls, she is securing the black vote, you need the black vote to carry the south and win the democray primarygavin either needs to get some bill clinton tier white boy swag or somehow prevent kamala from running
>>533135071>and now in 2028 it will be the largest dem landslide in history
>>533134898>What kind of retarded party would make someone like that their candidate?The Democrats.
Imagine still believing that elections are real
The Republican may as well just skip 2028
>>533135225I haven't thought about that bald goober in years. Didn't he basically get pushed out of the party when it was going through its woke purity spiral back in the late 10s/early 20s?
>>533134531So Democrats can do what then? Start more wars? Clinton and Obama never bombed any random shithole countries, no not at all.
>>533135148Polls mean nothing this far out and you're overestimating how much of the electorate (especially when it comes to the Democrat urban underclass voters) follows politics enough to know who he is. He'll likely have a token VP but it's hard to tell who it will be.
>>533135071Democrats lost the working class and have been trying to make up for it via a coalition of weirdos. They took them for granted and now they're audience captured to campaign on behalf of 80-20 issues.
I think the gop will run rubio, he can get the hispanic vote, he himself is hispanic and speaks spanish fluently, he can bridge the gap between neocons and MAGAI think if the democrats run kamala that rubio could activate hispanic males in favor of the GOP
>>533132132Why doesn’t bibi just cut to the chase and declare himself the ruler of america, rather than having his henchmen perform mock elections like this?
>>533135784Because they aren't bibi's henchmen.
>>533135625Working class just vote against whoeever raised prices. Prices have gone up and so now they will vote democrat, its literally that simple. Exceptions occur when it comes to the candidates personality like int he case of trump. No working class people are voting for vance or rubio
>>533133653Do you think "remember when I was VP?" is a good sales pitch when you look at this fucking disaster of an administration?Waiting is just allowing someone else to take the fall. Vance needs to make political distance from Trump now, because what this admin has done is radioactive to voters under the age of 65. Those ancient boomers will be an even more marginal portion of the electorate in 32, which would just leave you with the voters Trump spurned that you'd have to win.
>>533135640Rubio loses because he will never win the Rust Belt or Sun belt.It literally doesn't matter what republicans do unless they go on an apology tour and actually enact what their voters wanted from 26 through 28.
>>533132132Andrew Yang would win the debate so hard
>>533136047And what do they expect Newsom to win outside the West Coast which is already safe Democrat states?
>>533135942Thanks for the explanation, rabbi.
>>533132132I write Adolf hitler in every election
>>533135943>Working class just vote against whoeever raised prices. Prices have gone up and so now they will vote democratTrump was president in 2022? I missed that.
>>533135943>Working class just vote against whoeever raised pricesNo, lol. The Democrats can't differentiate between underclass and working class voters and it's hilarious.
>>533132813No. He wont. Hes already distanced himself from the iran disaster. Hes young. He has political capital. He wont throw it away this early.
>>533134780Jeetlover has absolutely no fucking chance against a carefully curated Newsom.>>533134716The odds are tilted against Newsom in the primaries, it's going to be a woman, a brown woman or man, or a gay guy
>>533132132As things are now this is correct. If Trump fails make it to the end of his term (Removal from office, health, etc.), an incumbent advantage helps Vance's odds.
>>533136498Only coping brown people think Iran is not basically pulverized at this point.
>>533132132Nobody actually likes Vance. Not MAGA or anyone else. He was picked due to how bad he was and how good he made Trump look in comparison
>>533136170Kamala is the presidential pick.She's already over the threshold needed to win if the 24 election was held today. It can't be understated how fucked the Trump admin has left the electorate.
>>533132188One of these guys is winning the primary.
>>533135967What would he run on other than his time as VP under Trump? He was a Senator for barely a year before he got handed the VP slot and had no political career before thatAnd even if he had any other record to run on, unless he publicly goes against Trump while Trump is still president, which he won't do, it will be impossible for him to distance himself from TrumpNo, running as the heir to Trumpism in 2028 is the only path forward for Vance, even if that path goes directly off the side of a cliff
You just don't know. The front runner for republicans is going to be someone as crazy as trump.Democrats are probably going with newsom.
>>533136551It's depends. Vance can carry the populist torch after Trump while also appealing to moderates. Whether or not he can beat the Democrat propaganda machine is what's in question and with all the faults Gavin has he has a shot. Also, DeSantis isn't politically dead, not even close, and there's a chance he'll be the candidate running again Gavin. The Democrats have a shitty bench whereas the GOP has Rubio/Vance/DeSantis who are all easily electable compared to Newsom.
>>533135148Kamala has been off the reservation since losing, barely making any appearances, Newsom has been very very public, podcasts ngal, doing interviews, opposing trump.Newsom makes the most sense, but he probably won't win, he's a white non jew attagoy who's gunna lose the primary to a brown female jew and get dangled on the winning ticket as VP
GOP Primary top 4 will be Vance Massie Rubio Fishback. DNC Primary top 4 will be Shapiro Yang Newsom Kamala.
>>533136327You got me I was jusy using "raised prices" as a measure for the economy. Economy tanked at end of trumps term --> people vote democrat
>>533132358My boomer father unironically wants Jeb to run in 2028. He's been voting Democrat for the last three elections but he hates the far left social issues, although he hates orange man even more.
>>533137185He's having a belated midlife crisis.
>>533136850He'll be carrying a torch in freefall. Take one look at Gavin's family and one look at Jeetlovers. Hatred of Indians is transcending party lines and even affluent liberal whites are pissed off at "legal" Indian immigrants taking their jobs with McDegrees from Calcutta U.Vance has zero fucking chance, the boomers won't be enough of a factor in 2028.The GOP will have to run an actual far right non boomer candidate to have a shot and that's IF we aren't still at war (by then a ground war)
>>533133862Agreed. Republicans are not winning in 2028.
>>533136607I didnt say we haven't bombed the shit out of them. Im talking about the political implications of clearly fighting a war on behalf of Israel. No one under 50 supports this crap. We were lied to. And the JE blackmail was proven real.
I don't think anyone in the current administration has a chance, they'd get bodied by any democrat because of TrumpIt has to be some popular republican senator or governor who isn't really a Trumper
>>533136654>Mondale is the presidential pick.>He's already over the threshold needed to win if the 84 election was held today. It can't be understated how fucked the Reagan admin has left the electorate.I bet someone said this once.
>>533134027I have a feeling Kamala will win the primary because niggers vote on name recognition, and they defacto control the primaries.
>>533136877Fishback and Massie have a shot, Rubio Vance will lose handily
>>533132132if commie cuba falls rubio is the next president
>>533132132Depends if the Democrats decide to field another disastrously unlikeable female candidate again.
>>533137590Third time's the charm
>>533137590Go and do it. AOC is the most beatable possible candidate they can run.
>>533132132If they're lucky then RFK Jr will become next president. If not so lucky it's gonna be AOC. Tertiam non datur.
>>533133734precisely thisworld is fucked as is
>>533137310Unfortunately that doesn't work when under Biden's watch they were handing out Pajeet H1B1s like candy.
>>533137590100% chance they do, with Newsom as the VP (who narrowly lost the primaries to her).Newsom could win the primary if we aren't still at war and things calm down.They won't though, the jews won't let him
>>533136498What political capital does he have other than being Trump's second VP?What could he possibly do in four or eight years to come back as someone who won't be primarily known as Trump's second VP?
>>533137310Democrats are more likely to mass import jeets, retard. They're trying to do to the US what happened in Canada (i.e. import masses of immigrants into urban areas and gerrymander the fuck out of the map so they form governments without having to worry about appealing to working class voters).
On top of which, I should add that like Newsom AOC is from a safe blue state so they get no electoral advantage out of running her.
>>533134315I want AOC. It's time. I'm ready to be pegged by a big tit Latina
>>533132344hes a hispanic christcuck moron cuck, so a pretty typical american these days. i used to follow him on twitter just for information purposes, but i couldn't tolerate his constant posting of scripture. democracy doesn't work and the US is doomed.
>>533137963Joe biden did it retard.
>>533132188America is finished.
>>533138249Worked for HW Bush in '88, no?
>>533132217Based, but you have to give Israel 30 billion.
>>533138249Obama left office with net positive approvalIf the DNC hadn't been forced to give Hillary the nomination in 2016 Joe would have gotten it and wonPeople voted for Biden in 2020 because they wanted Obama backIf Trump's approval goes back up, why wouldn't JD run in 2028?If it stays -15 or lower and he never questions Trump while in office, what will he possibly be able to run on in 2032 or 2036?
>>533136498He's not sitting out, he's being left out. Trump decided he's had enough of Vance's negative aura and is sending him on cuck assignments like going to Hungary and "hunting fraud". Vance can’t make any statements supporting Trump in Iran because Trump isn’t bothering to keep him in the loop so he knows what to say.
>>533138648We had a great run with Obama. The past 10 years have been a disaster largely because we have been putting old senile honkies in charge.
>>533139003>We had a great run with Obamat. Stephen Colbert
>>533137476Fishback can’t even win in his own state. He only has pull with edgy tradcaths under 30.
>>533135394Nah he's still seething on a daily basis on X. They tried to cancel him for not being woke enough though.
>>533139003>Obama who bailed out banks, was anti-White male and pro-DEI as fuck, who legalized propaganda on us with the Smith-Mundt reauthorization was a great prez What the fuck is the matter with you
>>533135381As if this kind of things actually matter
>>533139295And? He at least conducted himself with dignity and eloquence. People were making more money under Obama than any period in American history. The middle class was on the rebound. He kicked out plenty of illegals. He put a cap in Osama bin Laden. No matter what Obama would have done, racist insecure honkies would have a problem with him The only people who don't like Obama are in picrel.
>>533133862You have to wait for Republicans to up a normal, level-headed white man who somehow dodged association with Trump, more likely. A guy who isn't controversial and doesn't bite bait but just goes "we need to make life affordable for Americans and I think Dems would not do that" would instantly slurp up the entire voter base, but for some reason Reps won't put someone like that forward. They just keep pushing the most radioactive Israel glowies and social issue-obsessed retards imaginable despite KNOWING that "we'll make groceries affordable and help you keep your job" is what won them the last election. It's the same shit as Dems constantly pushing for brown women yelling about abortion and trannies, when Mamdani destroyed establishment Dems AND Republicans in NYC by just going "hey, maybe we should fight for the little guy's ability to live". Handsome 35 to 50 year old men with white facial features (regardless of actual race) and moderate policies focused on the happiness of the common man win elections. This is somehow rocket science to both parties.
>>533139872>making more money>in a fiat systemAnon, i..
>>533139872>He at least conducted himself with dignity and eloquence. People were making more money under Obama than any period in American history. The middle class was on the reboundDefinitely confirmed that this anon is Stephen Colbert. BTW, dude, your shitty show only has 3 boomers who still watch it.
>>533139872>t. Commie shitskin retard Opinion discarded
>>533140248>>533140078>>533139948He was historically considered to be a better president than Trump is this is based off approval numbers. Sorry if this bothers you. Have a nice day.
>>533140675He legalized propaganda. And Bannon /Trump took advantage of it.
>>533132132Is there someone you're forgetting about?
>>533132217Please make Alex Jones your VP, anon.
>>533132217Remember Anon, kids are not that delicious
>>533141087White people are are at risk
>>533132344>Also yeah if AOC runs then she will just show her ass once and she will win by a landslide ImaoSilly poolack you haven't still learned they're never going to vote for a woman it's Gavin who is going to be the president at best she would be a VP
>>533132344She does got a cute butt on her
>>533139003>Obama who bailed out banks,Who was president on October 3rd 2008?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008
>>533132217I believe in you, anon. Just remember where you came from and never sell out.
