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RUSSIA HAS DELIVERED SU-35s TO IRAN

HELL IS COMING
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fake and gay
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>>533153038
Pilots have to train in them first
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GRAB A TOWEL
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These planes won't do shit
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Weird way to burn a ton of money but aight.
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>>533153038
Not that I'm not rooting for Iran, but they need to stay out of the air and just focus on drones and missiles. Pilots need alot of training and secure airbases and Iran doesn't have those.
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>>533153091
Dont tell them that, give them hope. Let the retards fly
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>>533153038
>>533153091

even if it is real, what a waste of supplies they'd rather have on their home front.

I expect this is bullshit
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>>533153038
No way they deliver vulnerable fighters in the middle of a war against an enemy who can just take them out on the ground with standoff weapons.
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>>533153038
Do they have any competent pilots?
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>>533153038
>RUSSIA HAS DELIVERED SU-35s TO IRAN
They need to deliver nukes.
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>>533153038
They bought them - delivery is some time in the future.
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Su35s are cool as fuck.
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What if you just put a bunch of cheap drones with cheap radars in the air and networked them together and then hid the actual SAM launchers? Then you could get a lock on an aircraft even if half of them get shot down and just fart out a missile from a spider hole to down enemy jets, instead of relying on big stupid stationary SAM batteries that cost a gorillion dollars and get HARMed instantly
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>>533153038
Fake. Iran couldn't deploy them anyway. Iran needs FPV drones, manpads, and Shaheds.
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>>533153430
a f35 would have stalled and crashed about 15 times in this video
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>>533153038
Oh shit, suckboy 35's? How will the US ever cope?
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>>533153038
>Gen 4
Outdated trash
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>>533153091
the russians can just lend their pilots in to iran too like americans do to israel etc
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>>533153091

maybe there's a few iranian pilots in this mix

do more with less
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>>533153430
su-57 is my waifu
the soviets/russians make cool looking planes, its a shame about their performance and limited production capabilities
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>>533153644
>hahaha russians lost planes to top of the line NATO air-defence in JewKraine!!!

Migger, you are losing F15s, A-10s and an F35 to IRANIAN air-defences. That's WAY more embarrassing.
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>>533153789
"Generations" are just marketing fluff, retard.
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>come on mav give me some of that pilot shit
>NO NO NO NO NO
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>>533153038
Seems kinda unfair.
Usually the losing side gets the reinforcements.
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>>533153038
link you retarded gorilla fucking nigger chink dick fucker
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>>533153925
Looks cost and fuel efficient. They'll never make it like that in the West.
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>>533153430
Too bad 99.99%of aerial warfare has been about beyond visual range engagement for the past 30 years, and today it’s about protecting your aircrafts on the ground against a $100 drone.
So it can spin all it wants.
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>>533153038
oh no, not last gen fighters!
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>>533154319
Your Fentanyl35 can't do this >>533153430
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>>533153038
>gonna be funny to hear the excuses when it shoots down F35's
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Doubt they would be forward deployed but held for when the Israelis/US are inside the SAM environment, much like the North Vietnamese did.
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>>533154251
>It's really good at BFM dogfighting
>too bad it's all about BVR!!!
Whoever said Russian planes are bad at BVR?
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>>533153430
Except super-maneuverability means jack shit in modern warfare. It's more BS thing than stealth.
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>>533153038
If true then from what I remember these are orders Iran bought years ago.
It's not exactly the same as free handouts to Israel and Jewkraine.
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>>533153038
Too scared to fly them in Ukraine
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>>533153430
sex
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>>533153807
The US doesn't lend our pilots to fly, we lend them to train. I was actually talking about this with an Israel online earlier today. He was telling me the reason the IAF is considered the cream of the crop when it comes to the Israel armed forces is because they get first pick of the conscripts and vollunteers.
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>>533154448
the F-22 came out in 1997 and shits over everything the rest of the world has. does norway even have a military?
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>>533154524
ok batty boy
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>>533154471
>ukraine reportedly shot down..
>russia reportedly shot down...
>reportedly reported
im so tired of this shit
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>>533153038
they can't even use planes against fucking ookraine

you think they will do shit against the US? lmfao
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>>533154500
>means jack shit
So you are confident that fighters will never ever come to a merge in modern warfare? Ever?

Or that a multi-platform jet like the Su35 wouldn't benefit from an ultra tight turn-radius when it comes to making multiple attack runs on ground targets?
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>>533154448
why would they? it's not ballet
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>>533154667
>the F-22 came out in 1997 and shits over everything the rest of the world has
Mutts don't dare fly them over Iran doe
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>>533153430
So fucking hot
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>>533153038
lol Russia is using donkeys and you think they can afford to give Iran jets?
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>>533153221
even if it is real, how is it different from you wasting supplies on Ukraine
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>>533154848
Because we're not losing 1.3 million soldiers and thousands of tanks fighting Iran.
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>>533154816
no shit retard, what's the point of flying an air dominance fighter against an enemy that has no planes
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>>533154667
>f-22
its so good its not in production anymore, and its successor has been a laughing stock.
mutts cant make airplanes thats why the last time when they fought a peer to peer conflict against japan in the air the zero took down 10 mutts for each of their own deaths
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>>533154900
Not YET, you mean.
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>>533154251
Yeah it's a shame all the cool ways of fighting are obsolete and only the gayest shit imaginable is what wins wars now.

Cavalry charges.
Aerial dog fights.
Even snipers (some hate but going all camouflage and making head shots is cool)

All replaced by lame drones and even lamer road side bombs (you do remember road side bombs right America? you're going to see a lot of them in Iran)
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>>533153632
sure. two different planes with two very different use cases. does your bathtub work just like a pond?
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>>533154900
no balls to land on iran with boots, thats why.
month 2 of the 2 day special operation and youre begging for the strait to open that was already open pre-war, KEK
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>>533154941
Lend one or two to Jewkraine
Just see it as an opportunity to prove your theory
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>>533153524
That’s the thing. These SU35’s are actually just fake planes stuffed with actual armaments. While we’re sitting here laughing about how they don’t or won’t have qualified pilots for several months, they delivered the very latest drone tech right under our noses.
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>>533153038
>30 year old jets
topkek
and also fake. Russia is too busy welding cope cages to tanks and rigging tactical donkies for Ukraine SMO.
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>>533153038
No TR3s?
Yeah you are fucked shitskins
Picrel is real btw
Cope all you like about it
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>>533154733
>>533154524
I assume they'll use them to defend their own airspace only, not fly them into enemy airspace.
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>>533153091
The order was placed something like a year ago. Before the scuffle last June even started. The Iranian pilots started training then according to the rumors at the time. They'd be just about done with their initial training now if that was the case.
>>533153807
The US has already admitted that American pilots are flying Ukraine's F-16s.
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>>533154954
How'd that work out for the nips, sven?
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>>533155065
Iran isn't at our doorstep like Ukraine is to Russia

Unlike Russia, we can just keep bombing Iran while Russia is reduced to this
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>>533155114
>look we got explosions huurrrr
Okay?
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>>533154954
>laughing stock
only by retards
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why is it always coping shitskin posts from nordic ips? the f35 and f22 can do this manuever anyway, it's called thrust vectoring and the f22 and f35 do it better than russian garbage anyway. the f35 also shat all over russian s400s for syria

russia lost, itran lost, shitskins lost, keep coping, browncels
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Iran has their fifth gen fighter. That's what's been shooting down American aircraft. It's just so stealthy no one can prove it.
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>>533154744
Fighters are no longer useful. Drones, cruise missiles, mobile missile platforms, is where it's at.
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>>533154715
Has ANY OTHER country or planes launched BVR hypersonic missiles in a real war?

The USA doesn't even have any hypersonic A-to-A BVR missiles in service.
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>>533155220
Okay, Sgt. Ramirez.
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>>533153038
Lol Jesus those things are going to be smoking wrecks on the ground in a couple days. Cant believe they accepted delivery with this going on.
>>533153091
Don't try to get shitbrowns to act rationally.
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no heaven is coming. hell are the evil forces going rampant. you are deceiveth by thee gov
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>>533155220
shut up already you 56% mystery meat golem, also thrust vectoring is a waste of engineering in modern fighter jets whose only purpose is to be flashier at air shows
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>>533154744
>>533153430
thats so cool
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>>533155292
xD
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>>533154941
If you control the sky, you dominate the surface as well?
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>>533155225
I apologize for my sarcasm. They actually went through with it and turned it into miniature naval drones that's cute as fuck.
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>>533155292
you're literally a shitskin virgin

>>533155330
you're literally a 5'2 brown piece of shit subhuman goblin with 80 iq. who do you think you are?
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Let me remind you that USA isn't a real country. It's an economic zone with golems from all races to worship and serve the Satanic Illuminati families behind of it all. These families thought that they could rule the world, which is crumbling right now in front of our eyes.
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>>533155141
defeated on land by chinese attrition and on sea by US navy, not airplanes.
>>533155148
webm you posted will be you in a few months when you die for zion don, kek
>>533155253
well US is a country that prides itself of bombing sandniggers as if that proves anything, all their wars against peer powers have been achieved with the help of white european allies.
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>>533155253
Vodkapidors couldn't even achieve air superiority over Ukraine.
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>>533153038
More bullshit... It's all so tiresome....
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>>533155220
>the f35 and f22 can do this manuever anyway
May we see the airshow footage?
>it's called thrust vectoring and the f22 and f35 do it better than russian garbage anyway.
Russian planes have full 3D thrust vectoring, the F22 has 2D(up and down only) and the F35 has 0D thrust-vectoring(None).
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>>533153038
If they were serious they'd focus on sending them missiles and drones. There's 0% chance, if this is real, that those jets will accomplish anything of note.
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>>533155515
>muh maneuvers
Stupid ivan
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>>533155465
>doesn't know that the US navy is the second largest air force in the world, after the U.S
lol. lmao even
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do they also et the R37 tho?
if yes some of those american bombers might get shot down soon.
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>>533153914
same, i like flankers and mig 29s as well cause they're sexy and stylish and light years ahead of what they had before but unfortunately the USSR was psyopped into bankruptcy because it was never really a superpower or a US peer and as a result the west just mogs anyone else when it comes to aircraft. f22 and f35 have been unparalleled for decades and unfortunately they will remain so for a while. our f16s are awesome too, i'm glad i could see them live. the f35 is an alien spaceship next to anything russia has to offer, it simply remains unmatched as a miniature awacs/fighter combo that is also difficult to detect
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>>533155590
>Liked: Islam
about that...
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>>533153091
they have been training for over a year.
confirmed(unverified) from sources in Iran.
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>>533155556
What would a morbidly obese filipinx know about manoeuvres?
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>>533155487
No country can achieve air-superiority against modern AD. America can't even do it against fucking Iran, and they don't have 30% of the shit that Holhols do, lmao.
>>533155556
Cry you chinky-winky SEAmonkey.
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>>533153038
Yeah I'm thinking these are gonna get shot down>>533153080
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>>533153038
>RUSSIA HAS DELIVERED SU-35s TO IRAN
That not something people tolerate, they will be subject to consequence of some policy.
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>>533153038
So that means now Iran has 16 planes in total.
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Highly doubt it, Iran needs to survive. There may be a need for an air force after this is done, but now is so not the time.

Realistically Russia is probably bringing in MANPADs by the droves.
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>>533155671
>A sven not understanding mockery
Shocked, I tell you
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>>533155451
i'm the superior human, rapedeep. it's just a fact and i'm far from being 5'2. maybe it's standard where you live because your growth was sabotaged by high fructose corn syrup and glyphosate but it's abnormally low, also 80 iq is believing thrust vectoring does any meaningful positive difference in modern combat, you talk just like brown people cumming over soviet flying junk
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>>533153430
Can it do that with a full loadout?
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>>533155451
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SO WHY ARE MY FUCKING SHORTS RUINING ME???
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>>533153038
Did they come with pilots?
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trump's relationship and reverence for Putin is getting a bit awkward.
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>>533153216
>Let the retards fly
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>>533155833
No idea, but if it's down to dogfighting I doubt it would still have many Fox-3s or external Fuel-tanks left.
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what's the satellite coverage in iran between us and russia?
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>>533155660
Rothschild bank propaganda.
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>>533155776
leave it to US flags to post black dicks
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>>533155870
akk!
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>>533156177
Want to make you and your women feel at home
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>>533155065
>not being retarded is having no balls
I hope Trump doesn't see this.
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>>533156177
Mutts law only applies to a person saying "made for bbc" or worshipping nigger dick. Saying someone clearly loves nigger dick i.e swedes is not mutts law. You absolutely are fucked. Even the most liberal estimates say 30% of your population is brown now. You're more fucked than the mutts and that's saying something.
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>>533155114
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>>533153038
16 Su-35s planes about to splash in their WhoreMuzz puddle. Boys need the target practice.
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>>533153038
lol
Dont be stupid!
The Russians are treacherous bastards.
They betray everybody!
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I wish it was true, but Russia can't even make enough planes for their own war. The F-22 needs a challenge, it's been sitting here for over 20 years waiting for something worthy of a fight.
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>>533156165
i hate the globohomo MIC as much as you but sadly russia's 5th generation program was aborted in the womb in the 90s, maybe china will someday match the performance of 30 year old american fighters. their aircraft industry seems much more sustainable than the ussr's
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>>533153080
Exactly.
the Russians are cowards and treacherous bastards.
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>>533153038
It sounds cool... But who's gonna fly a new jet against experienced US/SHLOMO pilots?
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>>533155220
You know they're brown (either spiritually or spiritually) because nobody has mentioned supercruise, radar cross section, IRST, or networked sensor fusion, since they can't see that shit it doesn't exist to them.
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>>533154954
>Cope responses
You hit a nerve
I got pissed and wanted to post "we invented planes" but that's cope, too.
You are correct
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>>533153038

>made in China

Yeah, We’re in no danger
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>>533156421
>spiritually or spiritually

Fuck, I meant physically or spiritually. I have been drinking. Anyways, my point stands.
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>>533154900
>1.3 million
>he actually believes the Jewkrainian propaganda numbers
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>>533156495
it's the spacing mr eglinner
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>>533156341
china's j20 seems like it might be that challenge, although the f35 seems more useful to send abroad
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>>533156331
Now make this image with Trump asking for naval support.
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>>533156242
>praise be allah
>on easter
KEK
>>533156218
starting the war then begging to open a strait that was already open pre war is by definition retarded, enjoy 150$ WTI.
maybe if trump praises allah a few more times Iran will forgive him for being a fellow muslim nation
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>>533156521
Keep calling out glowniggers.
They hate it, I know this personally :>)
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>>533155693
nah in this economy and his corrupt hellhole, he would be starving with only pagpag for breakfast, lunch and dinner
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>>533156177
looks like someone is mad
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>>533156421
If you're so smart, why aren't you rich?
Instead you joined the USA's military like a stupid faggot goy
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>>533156525
planes after those of fifth gen are designed to have been irrelevant without satellite coverage 24/7. might as well have put wings on an cellphone if satellites were to go have down
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>>533156589
umad?
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>>533156343
Fighter Jets are like battleships in the 1930s. Still useful but soon will be outdated.
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>>533154900
Just because the mongolkraine lost 1.5 million dead does not mean what the side what bombs them lose that much too. Can't believe i still have to spoonfeed retards like this in 2026.
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>>533156636
go down*
>>533156590
eglinners are not glowies, kill yourself
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>>533155833
of course not.
I think this is not su35. No front wings. not sure how they are called.
fake video
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>>533156589
US hasn't managed to reach Russian levels of retardation. That would require a ground invasion.
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>>533156628
Abdulaziz I'm so glad you're making use of those taxpayer funded English lessons. Anyways, I design and build the stuff, not fly it. You're absolutely correct that joining ZOG is indeed for faggots, though.
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>>533156758
the word "stuff" gives the post away. same with "thing" and "us", "ours" ,"we" or first persons in general
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>>533156667
>>533156737
mecca & iran is towards about the same direction, you can both praise allah like your president & apologize to iran until they open the strait at the same time on the same carpet
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>>533156701
Why would the advancing army need to get bodies from the retreating army? Either Russia is not gaining any ground in your story, or Russia is somehow losing 1/3 as many men behind Ukrainian lines as it is overrunning despite being the party advancing in the WWI style trench war.
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>>533153644
Yes. This is either su35 or su37
both have this little front wings.

this here
>>533153430
is not su35
looks like a fake video
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>>533156715
Macaco you don't know shit, of course DHS glowniggers read every post calling out eglin niggerniggers.
I could prove it but I don't care, it was meant as a compliment anyway.
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>>533156860
you mean canards and you're wrong because you are confusing the SU34 and SU35
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>>533156871
yeah yeah moshe, go shill your party lines under another ip now. take your breaks etc
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>>533156854
can't spin those numbers mane
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An SU-35 just flew over my house!
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>>533153925
The missiles , rockets defeated the planes, just like drones defeated the tanks.

Future air force will consists only from.transport helis and airplanes.
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>>533156860
>little front wings
You are talking about Canards. Su35s do not have Canards.
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>>533156991
su 47 the sigma male of aircrafts
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>>533156516
>the Jewkrainian propaganda numbers
now even your own "first governor of DPR" confirms this number, you pidor shill

"Pavel Gubarev, a former "people's governor" of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) and a participant in the Russian invasion, has claimed that Russia has sustained over one million casualties in its war against Ukraine."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WL01TyVOGU&t=875s
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Trump damned America.
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>>533156343
I'm really interested in seeing how J-20s and J-35s perform in the coming Chiwan war

also what is this J-36 prototype? 3 engine stealth bomber?
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>>533157151
jews
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>>533156948
Not making sense. Plus it's obvious that most casualties occur within the lines of both armies, so no body exchanges necessary. Even if Ukraine was losing 3x the numbers as Russia it wouldn't necessarily register in a body exchange for that reason.
>>533156988
They will still probably have standoff weapons launch platforms.
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>>533154744
I am sure.
The last dogfights happened in Vietnam war.

Maneuverability means jack shit in modern combat.
The skill of thenpilot means shitIt is all electronic warfare. Whoever has a better radar, better missile.
One missile fired is 0.8 probability of hit. 2 missiles fired and enemy plane is 100% down.
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>In Two Weeks!
>The Poo Report
>By Poo Jeet
>Good morning saar <braaap!>.
>In just two weeks from now a deadly vortex (TM) of in two weeks will consume the west.
>Designated undercover open air defecaters working for News Of The Poo have discovered that China’s most flimsy and functionally disfunctional military crap will be parachuted into Iran while russian SU-35’s will enable Iran to be just as successful at warfare as Russia has been.
>Shares in meatcube stock meanwhile continued to climb.
><head wobble, head wobble, paaarp!>
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>>533154848
Because we can afford it and have materiel to spare, Ivan
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>>533153480
then you would have a really shitty short range low power phased array, like something from the 1970s but with less range, that needed constant battery swaps and several pilots to keep going.

If you replaced "cheap radars" with FLIR and acoustic interferometry then maybe you would have something... but then your cost per unit also probably goes up 10x and maybe you cannot get all the parts you want so easily...

You also basically need a whites only dev team to make things on that level. That is why it is not being done even though the tech has been around for 30+ years. Chinks and Huns cannot do it until a white man from Britain or France or Germany does it first. The parts for a completely dominant military drone system are all just laying around, and these jews with all the money are too stupid to realize that the pajeets are too fucking stupid to understand how to put it all together into something new.
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>>533157230
>I would know
you wouldn't mr fedbot
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>>533157259
Also no MANPADs in Nam. Once the SA-7 Grail rolled out in 1972 the US was fucked.
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>>533154900
>doesn't know Trump is massing soldiers for a land war
>doesn't know they prepared already for a draft

>>533155465
Its what happens when you get too big as an empire, Britain became the same way hiding across the channel and blowing up african and asian ports who only had spears and arrows.

>>533155590
Oh see another "muh navy" has not faced a peer power.

China merely threw unequipped retards in korea and got a stalemate after America easily pushed almost all of north korea before.

Modern China or Russia would not be rolled like you cope.

Its the life of zoomers like me who will be lost for israel if Trump goes full retard.
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>>533157151
Probably but not only Trump, remember that. The global wealthy elite do not care about countries, they do business with China and don't mind weakening the US.
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>>533156930
I denounce the talmud and trump is a nigger for posting terrorist threats on Easter.
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>>533154900
*yet
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>>533157044
Foward-swept wings are too based to exist in this cursed timeline.
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>>533153206
Are you a pilot?
Or do you just play video games? Because, instead of talking about things you have no experience with, you could become a pilot.
You won't be a fighter pilot, but a 4 seat plane is insanely fun. And you can fly one.
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>>533154744
>multi-platform jet like the Su35 wouldn't benefit from an ultra tight turn-radius when it comes to making multiple attack runs on ground targets
kek, Extensive research (such as Oryx) has documented multiple losses of SU-35s, with some sources confirming at least 8 to 11, and some analyses suggesting over 23 to 25+. The aircraft has proved vulnerable to Ukrainian air defenses, particularly Western-supplied Patriot systems, and has even been victims of friendly-fire incidents.
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>>533156991
lol canards
canard means "duck" in French hehehehehe cause they're wet and cute and fluffy
>>533157044
those wing shapes have drawbacks.
> intended to give the aircraft increased agility and maneuverability. While serial production of the type never materialized and the configuration was not further pursued...
probably stability. A canard up front is more drag up front, which is retarded. Arrows have fletching on the back so they stay flying straight. Sure you can turn with it but that's stress on the front of the frame (why the front looks beefier than all the others too). Aircrafts are like birds, the best designs are basically solved.
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>>533157433
for a brief moment it soared like an eagle tho
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>>533157420
that's the 2021 script moshe. you have to endorse summary executions of jews now and name them "jews" specifically
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>>533153038
....why? What is the purpose of aircraft given Iran's strategy? They need to make more ballistic missiles and drones
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>>533157392
have you got cash to move before ((fuel shortages)) would have prevented american males from leaving the country?
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>>533156372
No, that's the USA
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>>533156991
su 75¿?
what?
and with one engine?
what?
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>>533153038
>RUSSIA HAS DELIVERED SU-35s TO IRAN
Seems questionable.
First, where are you going to store them.
If it's in the open, they are just going to get bombed.
Second, who's going to pilot them?
You can't just jump in the cockpit and fly them with no training.
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>>533153038
They will literally get bombed on the ground
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I had the explosive midnight shits the night before last OP. I had left a bottle of “raw press” mixed fruit juices and coconut water in the living room for 24 hours instead of placing it in the fridge. I drank it and later when i went to bed i had to take an indigestion tablet when i laud down. I fell asleep for a couple of hours and woke up farting, but it wasn’t a fart it was MUCH worse than that.
Just thought you should know.
Lucky me eh? The blessings of the six armed smurf.
True story too.
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>>533157486
nigger who asked you. you couldn't design a chessboard with chalk and an empty board so you ended up on a desk at eglin pushing party lines for bread and water. kill yourself
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>>533157609
its a new export model to be part of AI drone systems.
see how little you know, this was publicized years and years ago as their next model.
look at the date on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_WeYNwsgSU
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>>533157525
I don't gotta prostrate for a darkie I don't care. I love my country and am loyal to the constitution and my family here.
Nobody I know wants to die for Israel
No kike love here, fuck Jews.
Other US flag was a ZOGBOT thobeit.
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>>533157730
nah I post designs sometimes
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>>533153038
god damn i wish i was still in the airforce
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>>533157433
>>533157523
look at him go. so based. it's a decepticon
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>>533157486
>A canard up front is more drag up front,
very wrong.
It has less drag than the wing of the plane coz it is smaller.
it produces lift just like the wings and fuselage but smaller.
It can be used as a air brake.
it Adda to maneuverability
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>>533153038
>16 4th generation fighters vs 120+ 4th and 5th gens in naval air wings ALONE with no airborne radar support.
>Ukraine was unable to make significant gains with dozens of F-16s
okay, retard.
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>>533157871
you are a zogbot lil goy
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>>533157892
plane looks straight up evil. americans could never
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>>533157581
Nope, current backup plan was to sign up to the military as an IT guy and not die on the front.

I will try to make money before ship date, but if not I will at least be the computer guy and not die immediately.

Maybe if I am lucky the jews will need guys in the underground bases before nukes so I might escape insta-nuclear death.

If I do make money I will piss off to africa in some irrelevant town and make a farm because no one will blow that up.
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>>533153091
>>533153091
Eh, assuming iran isn't retarded they could have had pilots in Russia already trained on them.
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>>533157960
Anything that sticks out creates drag. The drag always needs to be between center of thrust and center of mass, closer to center of thrust, depending on your purposes.
There's more complexities involved like the canard creating air turbulences that the forward-shaped wing can exploit but this is literally military technology secrets from hauling those suckers into wind tunnels.
Using frontal canards as an air brake is possible but retarded (more drag in front, less stability, will literally flip around). Air brakes in the front of a craft is for spacecraft going retrograde.
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>>533157259
Yeah and Vietnam was probably also the last time there were large-scale air-to-air engagments between large airforces.
As far as Stealth goes, look at it like this, either it will be so effective that opposing stealth-fighters will actually sneak up on eachother and possibly result in Dogfighting OR Radars technology will advance to the point that stealth is rendered obsolete anyway.

Guess we won't know until the USAF takes on China's PLAAF.

>>533157479
I already said in this thread, no country can achieve air-superiority against modern air defence. America can't even do it against Iran and they are far less capable than Ukraine.
>>533157609
Russia's next plane, F35 equivalent.
>>533157470
Just a planefag.
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>>533157433
It was an experimental plane. Never put to serial production and abandoned as a concept. 2–3 peaces produced ever.
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>>533155966
I just wonder how many times they'll be able to mobilise multi-billion dollar operations to save single people before we run out of funding/manpower and get one captured and paraded on Iranian state TV as the ultimate humiliation ritual.
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>>533156212

only micropenis jews think hot whie women go anywhere near a nigger lol

they dont wana be in same country as them

jews are so ugly and stupid lol
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>>533158083
don't do it, you will die. get out while you can, set up some company anywhere and fly out. jews need militaries to have bodies hit the floor and nothing else
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>>533158206
there'll be no stealth in the age of satellites
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>>533153091
Iran also isn't going to risk them during a hot conflict against the US whose only competent military asset is its air force. These fighters will be for future conflicts against regional threats like the gulf states or Israel.
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>>533157990
Post your guns monkey nigger
You won't because you don't got any.
Too poor.
I used to own 3 guns made in your shithole, really liked the pistol grip break action .410. lost it in a boating accident.
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>>533158301
Stfu, non American. It might be his best chance than setting up a company that will likely bankrupt him
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>>533153091
I’m pretty sure Iran already has pilots trained on Grumman F-14 Tomcats, so giving them Sukhois is just an upgrade :]
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>>533153038
does this means iran gonna sank the harrold ford again ?
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Remember the four forces acting on a plane! Lift vs gravity, thrust vs drag. Your craft design can affect all of these.
>more dramatically shaped wings or elevons create more lift
>more shit in general increases pull of gravity
>more forward-facing surfaces create more drag
>more powerful thruster increases thrust
once you get that right you can sink the wings in a V shape for a more overall stable yet less controllable flier, or keep them straighter for more maneuverability.
Trying to brain up radically different aircraft designs is like throwing money in a fucking furnace but hey that's the US military
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>>533153430
>We have hover mode at home
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>>533158418
flags don't exist. the zoomies will not join militaries and not fight for jews mr fedbot. better bankrupt than dead.
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>>533158301
Or he could stay and tell the feds NO.
My sons ain't getting drafted and neither will I.
Demoralizing faggot.
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>>533153038
Random X accounts aren't a source because most of them are thirdworlders posting misinfo to farm clicks to get a couple dollars per day.
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>>533157470
This short fag got into the movies only because of his hunter eyes.
His teeth were very bad though.
He probably put fake ones.

You are only.good looking if you are an actor if you are main hero, character in a movie.

You can be a a actor if you are ugly, but you will.never play the main character , hero of the movie
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>>533158505
you won't have an option. your guns will be taken from either your dead hands or from your live ones. you federal government actually plans to fight the one to two percent of armed white males capable of coordinating operations against armed feds. it has been planned long ago. leave that jewish hellhole while you can. there is no usa. there are jews harvesting goyim like you and your kids
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>>533157433
He just wants a hug
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>>533158625
Shouldn't you be dilating rn?
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>>533158625
Silver doing great, glad I cashed out my retirement for hookers and blow years ago :^)
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>>533158438
This is where they got the idea for wings with variable geometry, like f111 and f14.

But soon. they realized planes are not birds and those wings are too complicated and their cons do not compensate for their drawbacks.
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>>533158658
Still weak to modern Air Defense. Only useful for standoff weapons.
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>>533153038
Only the US does stupid shit like that. It would take years to train pilots and all that time the planes are just sitting targets.
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>>533153430
Not a SU-35 Retarded Nigger
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Lol you really think some measly jets are a match for the messiah? Hahahaha
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>>533155408
If they had little girls flying them they would win the soft power war. Just call them strike witches and give them leotard plug suits. The entire male human race will wish to fight for Iran
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>>533158728
get your shilling act together ramirez
>>533158734
better use it fast
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>>533156275
>>533155114
wtf is this
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>>533157892
>Sukhoi-Su-47
>>533158045

A distinguishing feature of the aircraft was its forward-swept wing[2] intended to give the aircraft increased agility and maneuverability. While serial production of the type never materialized and the configuration was not further pursued, the sole aircraft produced served as a technology demonstrator prototype for a number of technologies later used in the Su-35 as a fourth-generation fighter, and the Su-57 as a fifth-generation fighter.
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>>533158876
>SAVED
SAVED
>SAVED
SAVED
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>>533158658
Modern Mig31s are beastly interceptors. They can launch monstrously long range hypersonic missiles and GTFO of the airspace at nearly Mach 3. Perfect for long range-interception hit and runs.

Western planes cannot shoot back at them at those ranges and speeds.
>>533158860
>full thrust vectoring and no canards
That's exactly what it is, retarded faggot.
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>>533158747
Cars are making progress with the dumbass slingshots and electric vehicles being kind of viable. Single-occupant aircraft is wide fucking open for design choices but safety is such a huge concern it's impossible.
>If you think teslas eat shit to EMPs and lose all control when they drive by wire, just wait until the drone hovercycle eats some fucking lightning
Folding wings probably have a purpose somewhere but it's like handing a soldier a folding knife.
>it weighs more! it breaks more easily! but it's compact! so you can carry it concealed even though you're in armor lol lmao
IDK have they though about extendable elevons? If jets use less fuel they can be lighter generally but most fighters will ditch external fuel tanks in an instant if their life depends on it.
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>>533158996
>>533157892
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>>533157433
You can see its wings trying to snap in this video.
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>>533157980
>>Ukraine was unable to make significant gains with dozens of F-16s

Su-35 is better than F-16. Ask your mom if size matters.
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>>533159135
That just means there is no excessive weight inside.
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>>533156925
No on can mistake su34 with anything else.
That useless duck looking looking bomber is a total failure.
Su-25 and its updated version su39 that was never put to production is and would have been way more valuable in Ukraine.
way more su34 were shot down than su25
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>>533154500
>out-maneuver an incoming missile
It has its uses.
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>>533153430
nice trick *shoots a missile at you from 20 kms away*
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>>533154251
You still need to dodge the missile. The "dogfight" just changed from fighter-fighter to fighter-missile.
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multi-role fighters are probably great for the Navy where you need A PLANE on A BOAT that can do shit TODAY. But in most wide-scale attacks any real military will have bombers and escorts. I cannot fathom retiring the A-10. Just redesign it if retrofitting it is too dumb after a certain point.
>oh yeah let's fire MORE BOMBS instead of using the simple gun that can kill tanks
oh good they're still in use, whew
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>>533155408
Cool. But are they useful at all? Why aren't they using them?
Or did they get blown up already?
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>>533153038
Finally, F-22 is gonna get some kills
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>>533157479
Thanks for the talking points Langley but no one believes you.
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>>533159389
>20kms
That's baby shit. Modern planes BVR at around 100km. Su35s can carry missiles(R37) that exceed 200km.
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>>533159566
>anon doesn't have classified information
ngmi
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>Every year, General Bursov tries to get the Touro mothballed and every year he gets laughed out of the War Council.
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>>533153038
Good for them, but I don't think these will be very useful. Should have gave them a crate of FPV drones and pg7 warheads instead. Maybe some fresh SAM systems and manpads.

Can't complain about some su-35 though
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>there are actual plane autists who know what they are talking about AND 80 iq retards giving their opinion on jet fighters ITT
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>>533158403
Assuming this tweet is even accurate and not fake news, why would they be sent now when they're at threat of just being taken out in the current conflict.
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>>533159864
the most useful fighter jet possible is a satellite network. planes per se have been obsolete since surveilance became viable
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>>533153430
Why can't American planes be this sexy?
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>>533153038
>Russia delivers weapons to Iran
>US starts delivering weapons to Ukraine again.
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>>533158903
Idk about that they bombed a girls school. Put a whole squadron of little girls flying Su-25 and hegseth might legit drop a nuke
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>>533153430
Guaranteed the pilot threw up with all those G forces.
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>>533160308
You never stopped what are you talking about? It's just that Europeans pay for it all now instead of the majority.
You have no real leverage over them.
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>>533160177
80 iq retard huemonkey says what?
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Here's the quiet part. Russian pilots come attached to those planes. They will fly for Iran when the time comes.
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>>533160260
I'd fuck that jet no questions asked.
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>>533160177
is it true you are the highest iq brazillian
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>>533153038
lol, they'd get raped
F-22 and F-35 which we have been using in the conflict hard counter the Su-35
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>>533159166
Yeah. So are the 27, 30, and 33.
Doesn't mean anything if they can't operate within their intended doctrine.
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>>533153038
They’ll be destroyed within a few weeks.
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>>533160983
*days
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>>533160895
No. SU-35 has something called 'puntinkovi' mode. which throws a banana (first inspected by putin) out at very high speed, which would smear on the window of the f22, causing the american pilot to crash.
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>>533160895
>>533160907
>>533160983
>>533161222
back to the lab jidf, cook something else
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>>533159031
Thats a Su-27 from a 2008 Airshow you secondworld dumbfuck.
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>>533153038
Isn't Russia already knee deep in their own war
I doubt they would sell their own stockpile
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>>533160983
They won't even leave the ground if Russia is retarded enough to give Iran jets
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>>533161314
Pathetic cope
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>>533161689
That's the OLD model??
Damn, imagine what the newer ones can do.
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>>533153038
This seems unnecessary. All Iran needs is a bunch of drones and missiles.
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>>533160895
Not necessarily. It's pretty unlikely that Iran would bother trying to contest the air-space, but if they stayed low and in the mountains(and Iran has a fuckton of mountains) they can evade being killed at long range. F35s would get turbo-raped if it ever came to a close range fight against a Su35, and a F22 would be competitive. The F22 has "lost" training-wargame battles against numerous aircraft including Eurofighters, Rafales and even an F16.

Staying low and far back in friendly territory is basically how Holhols are using their F16s and they don't even have mountains. More likely they would be destroyed by stand-off munitions while they are still on the Tarmac.

>>533161689
That's a mig31 it has one of the most distinctively boxy airframes in the world you retarded migger.
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>>533153216
silence mystery meat
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Samuil Hydkov is reported to be training the tehranians on how to use the planes
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>>533155040
There is no use case for this aerobatics nonsense in modern warfare. It can't help you dodge a missile. So the Su-35 would just end up eating a missile from the F-22 or F-35 that it didn't even know was there. Stealth and electronic warfare assrapes non-stealth planes.
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>>533161314
>Acknowledging that warplanes that depend on vast networks of logistics infrastructure and support systems that are no longer in place when outnumbered 10 to 1 have a fighting chance is jewish propaganda.
Even by Brazilian standards you're pretty daft, eh?
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>>533153038
16
Even if they are keep at maximum runtime operating in teams of two that's just enough to keep 1 or 2 teams airborne at a time.
Air power is a logistics game.
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>>533162284
you don't have classified info mr fed
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>>533162246
Russia and China both claim to have Radar capable of detecting stealth planes at long range. Factoring in data-link, 4th gen planes could engage them.

We don't know how effective these are in reality, but radars are getting better all the time, certainly they are evolving faster than RAM stealth-coatings.
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>>533156991
Iran should stick with spamming what works
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>>533154471
>Whoever said Russian planes are bad at BVR?
....The SU-35 aren't stealth, they're inherently worse against stealth craft at BVR as a result.
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>>533153430
How is that possible? This is like alien technology or something.
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>>533155132
>The US has already admitted that American pilots are flying Ukraine's F-16s.
No they haven't. I will happily admit I am wrong if you can provide a link from one single person with the authority to even make such a claim doing so, either verbally or in text. What is the point of even saying such retarded shit?
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>>533162533
>detecting stealth planes at long range
it's called satellites. planes are not transparent yet. also there's no we. stop larping capabilities it's pathetic
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>>533162533
The best thing I ever heard about stealth was this.
It doesn't matter if you're r cross section is the size of a mosquito, mosquitos don't fly at mac 1 and 40,000 feet.
Even old radar can pick up modern stealth as long as it's dialed in and working in an appropriate network. That is the reason the US doesn't just use its best stealth all of the time. Each use produces data on how to better dial in the networks.
I think AI being able to quickly sort data will only make older systems more useful.
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>>533162533
>Russia and China both claim to have Radar capable of detecting stealth planes at long range
That's not shocking at all, all longwave radars can detect stealth aircraft. It's not enough fidelity for a firing solution, you are firing blind at a stealth aircraft, the stealth aspect of an aircraft if for shortwave radar. Where they have small, radar dampening, profiles.
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>>533162813
>it's called satellites
Which are useless for providing a firing solution to a ground based SAM.
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>>533162879
what's with these tech buzzword bots?
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>>533162971
if they were or weren't you wouldn't know. satellites aren't a unified product. stop larping capability, you don't get tech briefings on classified uses of planes, satellites or even cars for that matter
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>>533163064
>if they were or weren't you wouldn't know.
>Have a SAM site in constant connection to a satellite
>Not a retarded idea.
That is the fastest way to keep your location revealed and to put all your SAM at risk of being useless due to EW.

It's bad enough if you have a radar the Americans can cook off, you do not want to be exposed unless firing.
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>>533163245
who cares what you think about anything? either post some actual classified use of satellites with literal cia credentials or gtfo. quit the buzzwords too fedbot
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>>533162685
>I will happily admit I am wrong if you can provide a link from one single person with the authority to even make such a claim doing so, either verbally or in text.
It was Lindsay Graham and I ain't searching through all the shit that retard says to find a link to the exact quote. If a senator isn't in a position of authority then I guess you'd need it straight from Netanyahu's mouth.
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>>533154848
>>533156701
3day special military operation btw
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>>533160983
Two weeks, right? Right, anon? This has been the longest 4 day operation in history.
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>>533155225
That shit is made out of cardboard
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>>533163364
>who cares what you think about anything?
Your idea of satellites providing firing solutions is retardedly unsafe. We have seen the Starlink connection used in Ukraine to find Russian troops. It's a terrible idea to bounce a signal off of a geo-stationary object in space.

You just highlight where you are, even if it's encrypted.
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>>533154848
Ukraine can actually protect some civilians with the aid we give them. Iran is already coming apart at the seems.
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>>533163591
you don't get to pic what's what mr fedbot. there's no first person plural and you're not informed. larping classified capabilities is useless.
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>>533155065
What for? They are already capitulating. Ez
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>>533163829
>you don't get to pic what's what mr fedbot.
....It's a simple engineering concept why you don't you retard.
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why would jew bots necrobump with propaganda?
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>>533163895
it's so simple the mic pays billions for it. what's next? gonna contract for the cia big goy?
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>>533164007
>it's so simple the mic pays billions for it.
No they don't, it's a retarded concept for the reasons I already explained.

It's entirely scientifically possible, quite a lot of systems even use GPS for orientation already. But to actually develop the firing solution from the satellite is retarded.

You are just asking to die.
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>>533164348
rewrite that post without the spacing then kill yourself. you don't get paid enough mr bot
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>>533163903
if it didn't work on 4chan and normies wouldn't have thought to have been informed would zoomers have evaded the draft?
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>>533164527
>rewrite that post without the spacing then kill yourself.
If I was to kill myself.

I would stand next to a SAM system that relies on constant contact with a geo-stationary system.

To be useful.
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>>533164348
also that posts like these would have catered to npcs wouldn't have changed compliance metrics proper
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>>533164698
yeah satellite feeds don't exist and aren't used and everything are "sam" whatevers. why have attempted to have de escalated how satellites ended targeting problems?
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>>533164698
you de escalated satellites. why did you de escalate satellites?
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>>533164698
satellites do work but why have propagandized against them?
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>>533153430
>used to never believe magic was real because I've never seen it.
>used to believe sex wasn't real because I've never had it
now that I've seen it, I am indeed a believer in sexual magic
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>>533164940
>satellites do work but why have propagandized against them?
You are retarded.

I said it works.

The danger is keeping the satellite link open to solve a firing solution.

See the downing of Russia's AWACs planes in 2024.

In order to use the the satellite to target, you are keeping your location visible.
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>>533165202
nah you literally don't know how they work or don't work but you're paid to shill something against them, why would have been the problem
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>>533165202
the buzzwords are too trash btw, "danger", "safety" and all of those de escalatory pretenses at making goyim not think on their own are not useful
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>>533155114
Ultra scatter laser? Fucking crazy shit, Anon!
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>>533165419
>, "danger", "safety" and all of those de escalatory pretenses
Nigger why do you

Think

That ships already use Satelite guided targeting systems

But ground forces

Only use it for

GPS?
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>>533165554
you literally typed nonsense just because. this no sources approach is crazy. interesting
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>>533165554
what do you think about genetically profiling the jews, incidentally?
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>>533165608
>you literally typed nonsense
Which part

Is nonsense

In my question?
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>>533165677
the part where you answer whether you'd agree to taking compulsory dna samples from jews
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>>533165669
>what do you think about genetically profiling the jews
They've done it to themselves already.

Like all good rat traps, the rats lure each other.
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>>533165732
but do you personally agree to using jew dna databases to have procured weapons against them?
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>>533165771
Yeah of course.

If you couldn't infer that from my statement. Though I suppose you are retarded so that was asking too much.
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>>533165825
do you agree to the summary execution of any and all jews?
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>>533165867
Yes.

You are still a retard though.
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>>533165942
interesting. based shill.
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>>533165968
>based shill.
It's not shilling when you just present a terrible idea and get told it's dumb.



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