>>533200695Cool. Fucking rural peckerwoods and swamp niggers need not vote anymore.
>>533200695That would be terrible because only like six or seven cities would determine the outcome of the presidency.
>>533200695As it should be. American voting is retarded.
>r*ddit>r/politics>spanbergerJust kill yourself already shill.
>>533200695They literally can't do this without a constitutional amendment. The courts would immediately throw out their little scheme.Also imagine the riots if a state votes one way but then the government says "oh well the popular vote just came in, guess our votes are going to the other candidate :p"
>>533200695lmaoyoud think the very existence of migger niggers would make more people wake up to the fact that democracy is actually dogshit and most normalfaggots should not be voting.
>>533200695Yeah...remember when they said that gor the 2024 election and then kamala got stomped and suddenly it just went away?
>>533200695these cucks forget that trump won the popular vote too?
>>533200695>giving their opponents 90% of parliamentwhy?
>>533200695_________________________>>533197333>>533197333>>533197333Spanberger just signed sixteen globalist anti-2nd Amendment bills in Virginia>>533200774>six or seven cities would determine the outcome of the presidencyCorrect. see map on other thread
>>533200751This is how you start a famine. The forefathers wrote in the house/senate split as a means to keep urban states from running over the rural states that feed the nation.
>>533200810Nope. Federal government can't regulate a compact between states. It isn't a form of interstate trade. There's no legal precedent. 50 more electoral votes from other states joining to go and then it becomes live and a law in each participating state and then the popular vote determines every national election from that point on
>leftists lose by 2% every time>seethe and change the rules again
>>533200774>Places where people actually live decide presidency instead of backwoods retards who keep trying to drag our country into a war for the holy land.Based actually.
>>533200695>/pol/ - Reddit and Twitter reposts
>>533200871>there's no legal precedentThe precedent is that 80% of young men support some form of rightwing politics and you will be buried alive if you keep trying to fuck us over.
>>533200871>Nope. Federal government can't regulate a compact between states.the US constitution specifically address any interstate compact as needing permission from Congress.there's no legal precedent because no previous interstate compact has tried to specifically circumvent Article V before.
>>533200695and suddenly for reasons not well understood by the normies anyway all hell broke looooooosse......
The easy way to solve this is to have more than two parties
>>533200927>>533200941you won't do shit
>>533200695wtf this isn’t a real democracy anymore
>>533200695You idiots libs think this is new. Gets tried all, the time and gets ripped down.
Democrats can only win if they cheat
>>533200850They wrote in the split because they thought that most people are idiots and will elect idiots (the house) while senators all being appointed by educated gentlemen will be the educated side to temper the ridiculous house.The party system burned that to the ground over a century ago when most senate seats were just left unfilled because governors would only appoint people from their party only to get denied.
>>533200695Based fuck the electoral shit
>>533200774Better than gay ass Ohio determining it.
>>533200871>>533200871>Nope. Federal government can't regulate a compact between states. It isn't a form of interstate trade. There's no legal precedent. 50 more electoral votes from other states joining to go and then it becomes live and a law in each participating state and then the popular vote determines every national election from that point onYou're a pretentious dumbass. The SCOTUS would throw this out in a unanimous decision even if ever justice was liberal.
>>533200695Who's the hot milf?
>>533200850>This is how you start a famine.This is what the jews want.
>>533200975FAFO>>533200978This isn't a democracy either when Israel controls all the politicians.
>>533200978It isn't a democracy now. Those minority states have overinflated vote value.
>>533201039>I want the party to win that will tax me the most to bribe nogs and spics crammed in the cities
>>533200695The whole thing is extremely retarded. Any state joining this is just agreeing to potentially go against the wishes of the people in their state.There's literally no logical reason for any state to join it. If you are a consistently blue state like California, then there is one outcome for your state's electoral votes:>Blue candidate wins your state, blue gets your state's electoral votes regardless of who won the popular vote.but if you join the compact, the two possible outcomes are >Blue wins your state, blue wins popular vote, so blue gets your state's electoral votes.>Blue wins state, RED wins popular vote, so now you have to give your electoral votes to red even though blue won your state.This whole thing is just more absolutely retarded Democrat scheming.>HEHE well the Democrats always win the popular vote, so we just need to trick the red states into agreeing to give their electoral vote to the popular vote winner then we will win every time.Except literally the most recent election would have only screwed over the people who voted for blue and won, because the Republican ended up winning popular vote.Also, if these states ever did agree to do this, I 100% GUARANTEE you that if a Republican won the popular vote, they would come up with some bullshit excuse to weasel out of it and would still give their electoral votes to the Dem.
>>533200695>popular democracy is a good idea lol, hope you get fucked over by women and niggers
>>533200774Or maybe everyday people would feel like their vote matters more and would raise voter participation
>>533200695So what happens when a state overwhelming votes for the candidate that loses the popular vote? Do the election officials just tell the people to get fucked?
>>533200695>With the Electoral: They WIn>"The system works as intended, don't be a sore loser.">With the Electoral: They Lose>"REEEE! It's not fair, we got more people voting for us! Abolish the E.C.!!This is some high school drama they swap back and forth like this for years if they win or loose. I pray Popular Vote goes red and watch them bitch and claim cheating again.
>>533200695Tyranny of the retard majority
>>533201159I just want every vote to count. Electoral votes are cheating. I want every voice to matter. You can only do that without the electoral bullshit
>>533200695so now the election will be decided by 2 or 3 states with 3 gorillion spics instead of the whole country?? speedrun to shithole any%. we have that system and its shit, only 1 place matters because its were 30% of the barely human niggers live. electoral colleage isnt perfect but its better than direct vote because it try to limit the mass of retards
this will make right wing retard states with the population number of a village seethe
>>533200816Kill yourself
>>533200695So California wanted to vote for Trump last time? Based.
>>533200695They would regret it instantly when they see how the game would change in their cities.
>>533201150>>533201354The state apparatus itself carries significant responsibility and authority. You don’t appreciate that, being a child driven entirely by internet headlines.
>>533200695>Clozzy for President. Neg Jester.
>>533200904>Donald John Trump was born on June 14, 1946, at Jamaica Hospital in the New York City borough of Queens
>>533201364Direct democracy is the superior system. Do you really think one person from Wyoming is worth 3.8 people from California? that's bullshit.
>>533201429Your opinion is valid but so is mine. And I say we should all have equal individual votes that all are counted and popular vote wins. You say the Jews should be in control of who wins. You realize an electoral college voter can cast a vote against the people right they can choose anyone they want and they have done this in the past.
>>533201354>I want every voice to matter.>Which is why I want less than a handful of cities in a continent-sized country to decide everything
>>533201375No right wing states have joined this. ONLY blue states like California and New York have voted to join this. This means that if it ever goes into effect, it will only theoretically negatively effect the blue states that choosed to join.If it gets passed in enough states, and continues the trend of only being blue states:If a Democrat wins the popular vote, then nothing will be different than the current system because the blue states will give their electoral votes to the candidate they always give it to, while the red states will give their electoral votes to the GOP candidate because they aren't part of this retarded voting compact.But if a Republican wins the popular vote, they will be guaranteed to win the election because then all of the blue states will be required to give their electoral votes to the GOP candidate even though that candidate didn't win their state.
>>533201560Cities are irrelevant it's the amount of people that matter not the cities why would the cities matter That's a really irrelevant take like who cares what city the people are in you can move to any city but your voice should still matter no matter which city you're in. Like I don't even understand this talking point about cities we're talking about people and the voice of the people. Majority rule. You want a handful of potentially corrupt people to be able to have the power to push whoever they want into the office of presidency.
>>533201498No. The problem is the "winner takes all" system. A candidate should get all the electoral votes from districts that voted for them. If a candidate win 20 out of 100 electoral votes in a state, they should get those votes rather than their opponent taking the whole state. That is how representative government should work.
>>533200695>We can only win by cheatingYeah we know
Trump's presidency is absolutely annihilating American farmers with retarded tariffs, trade wars, and now this self-inflicted energy and fertilizer crisis with this retarded Iran war. Not to mention how many farmers are dependent on cheap spic labor. American farmers would've been objectively better off under a Democratic president who would've done none of this retarded shit
>>533200695Wouldn't that be like a constitutional crisis or something?
>>533200695Good. Only thing that can give the White American a chance to reclaim this Country is for shit to escalate even further.
>>533200774anon suddenly realizes why the civil war happened
>>533200695Unconstitutional, states are required to follow the federal model, but what's new, everything has been running unconstitutionally for a long time.
>>533201607The amount of people doesn’t matter. There’s no diversity of thought in American cities. >>533201624That’s retarded. How do you split the decision of a state? States are members of the Union, not the people.
>>533201607>All people have identical interests no matter where they live or what they do.
>>533201474What the fuck the orange nigger is from Jamaica!!!
>>533200774The US cannot be called a democracy as long as the electoral college system exists.Land area does not equal people.>oh look, those giant empty mountains voted trump!Who cares what empty space thinks?
>>533200774vs. six or seven tiny counties. Democracy is a sham
>>533201672Okay retard. Like with charlie kirk right? Oh. I’m in the process of moving overseas while you hand your country away to people who want to murder you. Enjoy getting gulag’d by commies and shitskins
>>533201867>>533201498Ideally, California's votes shouldn't be counted in elections at all. Preferably everyone in the Los Angeles county area should be killed.I absolutely support California being disenfranchised. In fact enough laws fucking them over should be passed that they secede.
>>533200810States can apportion their electoral votes as they will, subject to the usual VRA laws. That's why some states split their veg to instead of WTA.
>>533201133>Israel flagone of (You)rsa Traitor to the United States of America and its Constitution
>>533201867Who cares what urbanites think?
>>533200850you dumbfucks already voted for Trump that fucked over "da farmers"retard
>>533200871I have no doubt you actually believe that is true. That's fucking hilariously retarded.
>>533201965Who cares? We wanted a closed border and we got it.
>>533200751The EC was made by aristocratic jerks not hillbillies
>>533200850>>533200850feed the nation..nigger you don't feed shit with your basedbeans and government subsidies. Grow some spinach or kale or oh I don't know broccoli or cabbage then come tell me your feeding people.Until then corn-poke, you and Cletus can go fuck off with your bullshit.
>>533201867We're not a democracy, thank God.
>>533200774
>>533201918Americans are not Russian peasants.
>>533200774good, religious retards in flyover states should have a lesser voice and I am NOT kidding, ESPECIALLY after this administration. you guys had full control this term and fucked up bigly.abolish the electoral college asap
>>533200850I don't eat onions, you fucking welfare queen cuck.
>>533200695I would love to see a Republican win those California, New York, and Illinois electoral votes due to this.
Virginia signs national popular vote bill into law, joining interstate compact with 17 other states and District of ColumbiaBecause Trumpy wouldn't leave the Gold House to campaign in Virginia. Trump is shite as party leader.
>>533200695As it should be. Fuck Wyoming and other no population red shitholes.
>>533200850>US imports almost all of it's foodNice try, dumbass. You WILL worship niggers and you WILL suck on girlcock
>>533200751Hey, it's only fair. >>533200803Based and true
>>533200695Based
>>533200751We are going to starve you out faggot.The diet we put you on will make your soi ass BEYOND SKINNY
>>533201867It should never be called a democracy because it never has been, it's a republic.
>>533200871The Federal government can't regulate a compact between states provided you ignore the Compact Clause which specifically says that states cannot form compacts without Congressional approval
>>533200695>Every vote now counts>Not just a few states that constantly flip flop every 4 yearsGood
>>533200695The only people who should be voting is married White men who have children.I would include property ownership, but a corporate oligarchy would exploit that.
>>533201867Why are you so focused on what niggers and faggots think? Are you a nigger faggot or something? I bet you live in a city, too, you nigger faggot kek
>>533200927>Incel Losers vs Everyone Else LMAO
>>533200774fuck you hahahahaha
>No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.>A literal reading of the Compact Clause would require congressional approval for any agreement or compact. In the context of interstate compacts, however, the Supreme Court has adopted a functional interpretation in which only compacts that increase the political power of the states while undermining federal sovereignty require congressional consentLet the libs waste their time and energy on this stuff. Anyone who spends more than 10 seconds even entertaining the idea that this might happen is retarded.
>>533202015No you didn't lil boomer, Trump promised that his first term. You need a wall to do it
>>533200850> keep urban states from running over the rural states that feed the nation.Explain to me how that is not exactly what we've been seeing in every single US election in my lifetime? Niggs living off food stamps calling the shots for the people actually working to make stuff?
>>533200695Yeah cause we need spics to decide the president
>>533201867>city niggers ass blasted their concrete jungles vote is locked to one shit stateBased electoral college
>>533200774>CitiesPeople determine shit, but regions. Don't know why you fags think you get more voting power just because you live in flyover shitholes
>>533200904As much as you gay niggers can't admit it, land DOES vote that's the whole point of a People and it's culture>>533200803>>533200871>>533200751
>>533202693See >>533202852 faggot
>>533202061See >>533202852 tranny faggot
>>533201867>The US cannot be called a democracyYeah, I'm thinking based
So in the future elections will come down to which state can shove the most fake votes into their machines?California will just run 3 million votes for the democrat and win the presidential election every cycle?
>>533203099>So in the future elections will come down to which state can shove the most fake votes into their machines?Basically like most elections in Europe and third world countries now.
>>533203099Exactly. The point of this is to make a single compromised state into guaranteed electoral victory.
>>533200695CIA male pattern baldness jew subverts the US. In response the Republican zio-cucks do nothing and make their entire administration about slavishly serving the jews.
>>533200774>all this gay lefty tranny shilling It’s all so tiresome.
>>533202887
>>533203260>The point of this is to make a single compromised state into guaranteed electoral victory.why you against democracy goyim? kek"You can vote your way into Jewish Socialims (democracy) but you cannot vote your way out of it." Do with that what you will, and prepare accordingly.
>>533200695Good, why is that not how it already is? What the fuck is an "electoral college"?>>533200774>people live in citiesWhoa, shocking
>>533200695lol okay. the appropriate answer to this would be for states outside the compact to simply secede. who the fuck do these leftoid niggers think they are?
>>533201867We're not a democracy you alien nigger. We're supposed to be a constitutional republic.
>>533200810>if a state votes one way but then the government says "oh well the popular vote just came in, guess our votes are going to the other candidateWhat the fuck are you talking about? The way the state voted is the popular vote
>>533203387YWNBAW homo dude
>>533200695great idea LETS DO THIS
>>533200695Good. As long as these cuckold republicans don’t win anymore. The level of betrayal I feel from those motherfuckers makes me want democrats to win the rest of my life.
>>533200816you lost the election to swing state moderates and the popular vote to former democrats such as myself. kill yourself troon. no one is forgetting open borders in 2028. you don't have any candidates who could win a single swing state.
>>533200695Trump won the popular vote lmao
>>533203471In 2016 too? I recall he couldn't even beat Shillary.
>>533200695>Dems spend years accusing the Republicans screwing with Democracy>Dems now decide "FUCK DEMOCRACY!" and have it be populars onlyFunny.
>>533201170>Blue wins state, RED wins popular voteHOW? How can the candidate who did not have the most votes win the state? That's not how voting works>>533201256>So what happens when a state overwhelming votes for the candidate that loses the popular vote?Again: HOW? Does "the popular vote" not mean what it sounds like it means? What the fuck?And what the fuck is any of this shit about States, this is about presidential elections, the States don't matter you just add up all the votes in the country.>>533201560>people live in citiesGood job figuring that out. Maybe tomorrow you'll figure out fire hot
>>533201867Thinking like that is exactly why Alberta and Quebec are once again trying to leave.If you explicitly decide leadership by population, you end up with a few major cities dictating policy.We already have that here with Ottawa and Toronto being the only places that matter in any given election, which results in federal legislation being designed to cater to them exclusively.
>>533203471nigger he won the popular vote by 1%
>>533200828not in 2016 though
>>533201624>electoral votesNo, no, fuck that shit. See this fucking bullshit is why don't vitw, what the fuck is this shit?>If a candidate win 20 out of 100 electoral votes in a stateWhat in the fuck? 100 votes in a state, what? >That is how representative government should workWhat does that have to with voting for the representatives?
>>533200803tell me about the time your fag nation fought over it and 500,000 people were killed
>>533203566>>533203572none of your copes matter when you acknowledge that the state of california is 100% fraud every time
pure evilso naturally I enter the thread and /pol/ supports it
>>533203543>How can the candidate who did not have the most votes win the state? The states in this voting compact are agreeing to give their state's electoral votes to the candidate who wins the NATIONAL popular vote, instead of whoever wins the popular vote in their particular STATE.
I don't get all the moaning about the electoral college when the FUCKING SENATE exists and is like a million times less democratic
>>533200774>because only like six or seven cities would determine the outcome of the presidencyNo, cities don't vote and land shouldn't vote.
>>533203420Holy niggerbrain. No wonder you're a memeflag.
>>533203810>their state's electoral votes to the candidate who wins the NATIONAL popular votewhat happens if a republican wins the national popular vote?
>>533200751Agreed, cities will get what cities vote for
>>533203432>red vs blueFuck, you're a retard
>>533201076Ohio has never determined anything.
>>533200774*fraudWill determine the outcome.Just as now already lmao.Your stupid blue jew vs red jew game. Completely irrelevant.
>>533200695
>>533200978Never has been, memeflag. Constitutional representative republic.
>>533200695Okay so you also lose all funding based off the electoral vote now.and all congress seats.
>>533200695Trump WON the popular vote too morons. Anyway going popular vote only will mean the exploitation of less populated states and the dominance of politicians based in densely populated states.
>>533201919>crashes the U.S economy by taking the largest economy within it awayWHOOPS good luck without all the gibs California gives the rest of the country
>>533200695>abuse the 14th amendment to illegally import and breed 90,000,000 shitskin "voters" over the last 40 years to harvest their ballots.the electoral college is one of the only things stopping White people from being disenfranchised completely and then going scorched earth on jews and their brown golems. maybe it does need to be abolished.
>pick someone to govern youI don't think I will
>>533200695Dictatorship of the majority.Only big cities full of degenerates and suicidal nihilistic people will have power, like in most of Europe. Good, luck you wont survive it.
>>533200774Kek, this. If they do that, it will basically end the union, because it will just be a handful of cities deciding everything.
>>533202693>Don't know why you fags think you get more voting power just because you live in flyover shitholesBecause that was the condition under which those "shitholes" joined the union, kek.You think nation like Latvia would have joined the EU if they didn't get a disproportionate amount of seats but everything was decided by Germany & France and no one else?
>>533200954The even easier way would be for the Democratic party to put forward a platform palatable to the electorate.
>>533200695>BLUE STATES ABOLISH THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND MAKE PRESIDENT BASED ON POPULAR VOTE>Rural red states that produce all the food secede the union>Blue cities starve out
>>533205141>big cities full of degenerates and suicidal nihilistic peopleYes that is who voted (with the help of 5 million fraudulent illegal mass mail ballots amid the "covid emergenceeeee" 2020) Harris-Biden into power 2021-2024Blue population-weight centers are the globalist beachhead for world domination, and the degeneration of western society into technocrat authoritarian statist dictatorship. Look at Canada, or any nation in Europe
>>533200695EC as it works is fucking retarded>50.01% of state's population votes for candidate A, 49.99% votes for candidate B>Candidate A receives 100% of the votes when they could have easily been distributed proportionally>States with a 60/40 vote split are regarded as unwinnable, presidents who won't win those states either ignore them or sometimes actively sabotage them>The 40% in those firmly-decided states feel disenfranchised and get angry at politics>Now the concept of swing states exists and the swing states get their dicks sucked by both partiesit's just a fundamentally stupid fucking idea
>>533205141Still better than the sictatorship of the minority like in US
>>533207548do you think those ports on blue states will receive no 3rd world food cheaper than the domestic shit you produce? you fags only grow corn yet won't have it in other way than syrup
>>533207783That’s basically just a map of h’white men despite anything else that could be said about pic related
>>533208076Most conservatards are incapable of realizing that California is the most agriculturally productive state in the union
>>533203581lol holy shit you're dumb as hell nigger
>>533200695Yep. Importing voters is not enough. They will just rewrite all the rules in their favour.Trump really fucked us. He didn't fucking care what happens after him.
>>533202028>waaah reality is whatever I just made up in my head!Cool story troon
>>533208645>Trump really fucked us>Us>That flagYou forgot your VPN, faggot.
>>533200695I like the older system better where the candidate with second highest votes becomes vice president.
>>533201474So what youre saying is Trump should be on board with this
>>533201039The EC is meant to be one more check and balance that prevents the actual "mob rule" people constantly screech about.
>>533200803Meanwhile in Australia you don't even get to vote for PM, and the party that wins the most electorates governs, regardless of popular vote...
sorry but food providers >>>> city slickers
>>533201133Some whore of Virginia who's only great for weed, but shit for virtually every other right in existence, and somehow still won when she stood silently on stage during a debate and wouldn't answer her opponent's question of if she would let her granddaughter into a bathroom with the trannies she supports.
>>533200850You mean all the farmers that need gubment gibsmedats to grow goybeans to sell to Choina?
>>533201867The entire point is that it's a union of sovereign states who are all entitled to equal representation as member states within the union, which is why this system exists. This is why it doesn't make sense to people now, because our feds are a bunch of niggers who betrayed the revolution within a century of the nation's founding. What you want is actual mob rule, that usually leads to more conflict, because there is then no point for people to work together if some special interest bloc rules everything even more than they do now (enjoy AIPAC ruling out politics even more than they already do with this change).
>>533200695This is pro-popularism, pro-trump though, they're fucking themselves over
>>533202852>land DOES voteThis is cope. You know it doesn't make sense but you want it because you believe it helps your demonic pedophilic agenda. Under no other context does voting work like this. Fuck off.
>>533203562Um, no. On so many levels.Canada, as you should know, does not use popular vote.And it isn't Ottawa and Toronto that decide the election. It's the 905 belt (suburbs around Toronto) and Quebec that decide the election.And no matter how much the government does for Quebec, it's never enough.>>533209105>Meanwhile in Australia you don't even get to vote for PM, and the party that wins the most electorates governs, regardless of popular vote...Same in Canada and the UK.
>>533200695The fall of the union everybody
>>533200774Look how fucking obvious the raiding is in this post. At no point and time since since I've been on /pol/ over 14 years has this board had people crying for democracy in the US and against the EC. No surprise, Spanberger has toadies everywhere. Real faggot glowniggers living with their polo-wearing Filipino twink/tranny lovers stacked up in Fairfax and Alexandria and Langley. >>533200904>>533201076>>533202061>>533202033>>533201903>>533203387>>533203838All glowfaggots and raiders btw
>>533200695Oh, look...it's just a pic of the most unpopular Governor Virginia has had. No other gov has tanked so badly a few months after getting into office than she has.https://katv.com/news/nation-world/virginia-gov-abigail-spanbergers-approval-rating-drop-gmu-washington-post-poll-immigration-affordability-taxes-voters-redistricting
>>533209916>how does the tenth amendment work
>>533211080>how does the tenth amendment workIt's a nonsense amendment in the modern era which is why people want it removed. Try to keep up retard
>>533200695No problem if they do, but they won't in the end.If for example California chooses their electors according to the popular vote in their state, there will be fewer "blue" and more "red" electors in the electoral college, so they simply stay with "all blue".The only way would be a "red" state of comparable size to also pledge to follow the public vote - maybe Texas slowly turning purple will have this effect. It's better to have half of Texas than non of it...
>>533202693Because we are 50 States joined under an established agreement, not one Federal Country. If you decide we don't need to recognize State's Rights anymore, then go ahead and try to change the constitution.Not sure why you think a bunch of cowarly city cucks who are too timid to speak their mind loudly around their diverse neighbors and so instead just go along with the popular consensus should get to decide how to run the country either.
>>533200695violation of the compact clause and the 12th amendment would need to pass a new amendment because this is undoubtedly unconstitutional the US is a delegated republic not a majority rules because the founding fathers feared the tyranny of the majority
>>533200803>As it should be. American voting is retarded.We're a constitutional republic, not a mob rule democracy. And you should never have given up your guns.
>>533211196So go ahead and remove it then.
>>533200803the only thing retarded here is you ching chong
>>533200774As opposed to one country that isn't the US providing you two different golem to choose from every four years?
>>533211306>Because we are 50 States joined under an established agreement, not one Federal CountryThis. Most of the 50 states wouldn't have joined the Union to give up their voting rights to a bunch of bankster faggots in New York and Boston that have no idea what it's like to work a job that matters to survival.
>>533211250>No problem if they do, but they won't in the end.>If for example California chooses their electors according to the popular vote in their state, there will be fewer "blue" and more "red" electors in the electoral college, so they simply stay with "all blue".That's not what they're threatening to do. Other anons have explained it throughout this thread.
>>533202307>marriedWhy? So I can give my money to a weakling with a mucus hole?An why should I have to put up with that to influence society. If I have enough money, I should be able to exert power over others
>>533202307I've entertained the thought that parents should get extra votes for each child until they're 18 since those are the people actually furthering the species and should rightfully have an extra say in the world their children will inherit, but in this day and age welfare queens and muslims would exploit that as well.
>>533211513So they won't split their votes but vote unanimously for the popular vote winner. This won't change much, at least as long as the popular vote remains a partisan issue.The media will surely like this, as it assures more spending on ads even in already "red" or "blue" states.
What if there's 5 competitive candidates and the popular vote winner has something like 21% of the vote?
>>533202197Fret not, faggot. Maybe your jew friends will bail you out. You've sucked them off so hard for so long, they're bound to do something for you this one time, right? >this fool trusted the jew.
>>533202392You zoomer retards are so stupid
>>533203312>>533204561
>>533211884he wins duhh
red states should go back to how it originally was than, only white males 25 years old or older that own land could vote
>>533203898>Republicans win the popular voteThat doesn't happen anymore since libshits flood their states with illegal immigrants
>>533200695that lady is CIA. you have the cia now openly running politics. classless.
>>533200774That's actually not true. If you were to add up the voting age population of all the most populous cities, it still wouldn't be a majority of voters.
>>533200828Again wrong. In 2024 he won the plurality of the vote.
This literally cannot benefit the democrats unless red states did it too. It's actually fucking retarded from their standpoint.
>>533201867>The US cannot be called a democracy as long as the electoral college system exists.Correct. And that's how it's supposed to be. The founders did not want the US to be a democracy. They believed the "tyranny of the majority" was just as much of a threat to individual liberty as the tyranny of a dictator or absolute monarch.
>>533201867Niggers and muslims are not people. They shouldn't be able to vote and should be exteriminated instead.
>>533200695who's this cutie
>>533200695I voted for this.
>>533213375It doesn't go into effect untill a certain amount of states sign on. And it doesnt trigger untill its dems win the popular vote.
>>533200774No they wouldn't. Every vote would count equally
>>533210988Checked and correct. Crazy that they really think anyone's going to agree with that retarded shit. I mean, aside from pajeets and beaners. Maybe women and low t dudes too
>>533200774just vote harder bro
>>533213684Every vote shouldn't count equally though. That's not what the founders believed. They believed running on a simple "majority rules" model will inevitably lead to the trampling of individual liberty. That's why they structured things the way they did. In fact, they wanted to go even further initially but saying each state would simply get the same number of electoral votes, regardless of population. But the more populous states threw a tantrum over it and refused to ratify the Constitution until a compromise was made that based electoral votes on population.
>>533213808It was more about compromise than principles. In order to keep small states engaged
>>533200810The courts have a track record of letting unconstitutional things stand for decades, a century, lifetimes before finally getting around to ruling it unconstitutional. Absolutely 0 faith in the judicial branch to do anything good or competent.
>>533200695Didnt Kamala lose the popular vote?
What stops red states from abolishing voting as a whole
>>533200695They have tried to workaround the Constitution before and got shot down by the Supreme Court.If you want to get rid of the Electoral College you have to convince people you actively hate to agree to give you absolute power over them.Good luck.
>>533200695Allowing the states to handle their own part in a federal election, is bullshit. This is why you get the mail-in vote and fraud shenanigans. You're voting for the POTUS. That should be handled by federal authorities.
>>533214040Their personal writings indicate otherwise. They write quite a bit about the "tyranny of the majority" and why it's a bad thing.
>>533202028>>533202066You have to go back.
>>533201867>empty spaceLeftists genuinely, actually believe their food supply is just something that happens on its own and the shelves at Whole Foods will always be spontaneously stocked no matter what. You are all South African nigger tier retarded children. Your faggot city lifestyle is only possible because of the efforts of the "proletariat" you claim to love in the countryside. If American bourgeoisie leftists cared a tenth as much about farmers as they did about worthless deadbeat niggers, Trump would've lost.
>>533214432The legal theory is the State should control every election except the Presidential.Every non Presidential election is about State representation alone.The Presidential is about National interest alone.Any attempt to circumvent the Constitution by gimmicks to disenfranchise voters will be met with legal challenges. If that fails it will be met with violence.
>>533211211I see a shyster, and a Mystic named Emanuel. He wrote a book, the Talmud of Emanuel. The shyster tells lies.Lies are told about Emanuel. You need discernment to discover the truth for yourself.
>>533200695Redstates should just do an USExit then and create a new USA without them, maybe ad Venezuela, El Salvador and Argentinia.
>>533215047Just kick out CA, NYC, and Chicago.That will fix everything.
>>533215047>Redstates should just do an USExitCan't. The southern states tried to peacefully secede before and the US started shooting them for it.
>>533200695Why would anyone be against this?Isn't it nice to know that your vote isn't just thrown in the trash just because you live in the wrong state?
>>533200850Shut the fuck up cletus. You won't do shit.
>>533215395The US isn't supposed to be a democracy. The president is supposed to be chosen by a consensus of the states, not a consensus of the people. Why is this so hard for retards like you to understand?
>>533213359That is winning the popular vote, genius.
>>533200871wut wuz da cibil woar
>>533213684just like France, where they tried to revive the Bourbon monarchy five times just to escape the Reign of Terror democracy always produced
>>533215395The rural/urban divide isn't new. Even back then they had very different priorities. The only way to get rural buy in was to insure their voices would matter.I get the instinct of fascists to try and disenfranchise voters they disagree with but it is almost impossible to undo for a reason.
>>533214765the one on the left danced while I was taken to jail for going outsideI choose the one on the right
>>533200695Try it.Please.
>>533200695why do they try and shit on literally everything lol
>>533200882Before California dumped all their fraudulent votes on to the election 2 months afterwards she only had 50 million.
>>533200774Looking at the replies to this comment, pol is just all leftists and shitskins now. Pathetic.
>>533215479>oy vey we're SUPPOSED to be goyim!I bet the reason you only hover around 50-60% voter turnout is people feel powerless against the electoral college. Your votes are functionally irrelevant just by living in the *wrong* state, and that's bullshit kikery.
>>533215241That's close.Make every large city, into a "city state" just like they did in Europe over 3 thousand years ago.Then let everyone vote for whatever they want.Pic related: Just like the old Soviet Union, the purpose of the wall, is to keep the commies in.
>>533215776Nope, we low turn out because people are lazy and dont care enough to vote. Other anon is right, we're not a direct democracy but a constitutional republic with democratic values
>>533210051It's the GTA and Quebec but in reality it's the dairy cartel and jews.Canada has elections like American idol has voting.
>>533200695>PresidentialThe civilised world is on Westminster Parliamentary System.
>>533200695Dems are winning everything no matter what
>>533201867We're not a democracy, we're a constitutional republicWhy are you retarded??
>>533216053The only thing less popular than the dem party right now is cancer.They aren't winning shit.
>>533208498California produces almonds and avocados the most water intensive plants there are in a state with no water.They're all fucking retards.
>>533215938>Westminster Parliamentary System.england is "hell on Earth" and it always was.
>>533216141They need to bring back civics classes.Half the problem is the retards on the left have no idea how things work.
white women love destroying countries
>>533216265>decenterDid you mean dissenter? What the fuck lmao
>>533202693Jews hate a society that has power distributed evenly, it's harder to control every district than a handful of key districts, so jews used their control over a few districts to take power away from legitimate US citizens. Much like how inflation robs you of money, sanctuary cities rob the rest of the nation of the power of their vote.>Gain control over a few major cities>refuse to enforce immigration law>pack the local area with millions of people who almost exclusively vote for their own enslavement>enslave everyone in the other districts using the consent of the shit skin invaders
>>533201867>stuffs the ballots full of foreigners>it's democracy goy
>>533215938>Westminster Parliamentary System.england is "hell on Earth" and it always was.>>533216324>decenter>Did you mean dissenter? What the fuck lmaoI am an decenter from your chosen spelling.
>>533215395Because they've flooded the country with one hundred million plus racial aliens who vote against your interests to enrich themselves, retard
>>533200695ttestt icales
>>533216341>i-illegals are votingno they're not
>>533216866Rubber-stamped "legals" are, who are inculcated in the kill whitey state ideology to boot.
>>533200774the voting machines determine the outcome of the presidency, we're fine lol
>>533216914no they're not
>>533217018>>533216866>va hb1442>bill prohibiting immigration enforcement from being within 40 feet of polling places and vote recounting locations>"illegals aren't voting"
>>533200774Democracy is fucking gay.
>>533200695Amazing how far this once halfway honest media company has fallen in 12 years
>>533215776>States like montana should eat shit all the time cause hyper dense areas like New York and Cali will decide the outcome every single timeIsn't this why Alberta wants to secede from Canada.
>>533214463It's weird that the founding fathers just decided to go against their own principles for no reason then. Or are you conveniently excluding early representatives from large states from your definition? Regardless, this is a flawed argument anyway - the federal governments' powers have dramatically increased relative to that of the states since then, so the whole context is different. If you want to match today's functionality with the ideals that you're asserting, it wouldn't make sense to do so without eliminating most federal programs and powers that matter today. Youre attempting to have your cake and eat it too
>>533201187>lol, hope you get fucked over by women and niggersyes, that would some kind of novelty outcome, would it not
>>533215479It's not supposed to have a standing military, world police, income tax, massive public entitlements, etc either. Things have changed. You're the retard here. You're just clinging to some loose justification that benefits you.
>>533200751Then the rural states will secede, and all the gunowners with strong ideological beliefs are in those states and would 100% move there to defend them if it meant escaping the Schizo Liberal Land of Nonsense & Criminal Worship.
>>533200695The Electoral college and the state elected Senate was the critical element in preventing federal overreach. The first leg was chopped off by making the senate a popular vote. The second leg will be the ending of the electoral college.
>>533217308Doing whatever some old man tells you to do is super straight, true.
>>533200774Good. Fuck redneck retards
>>533200774Good. Fuck redneck retards they had their chance
>>533200695You have to have a majority of the electoral votes agree before it kicks in
>>533200695Illegal as fuck
>>533200695Good. I've never bothered to vote in a presidential election because I don't live in a swing state and therefore my vote literally doesn't matter.
It'll probably get cancelled when individual state voters have their state flipped to the wrong winner
>>533200695I live in VA so don't blame us. 1st Norther Virginia is the playground and backyard of DC, that's why we're always blue. This lady ran on being a moderate, then went full Commie globohomo. This is a strategy that these people will use in every state, no matter how safe you think you are. Flood districts with immigrants, vote Ds. Run as moderates but go full commie.
>>533217687As opposed to?Self interest is the only pure motivation here. When assholes start talking about "noble" and "righteous" arguments make no mistake they intend to fuck you if they win.
>>533200803>americans are retardsFtfy
>>533217947Yeah it only got us to....the most dominant country in the history of the world.
>>533215479>a consensus of the states, not a consensus of the peopleThose should be the same thing
>>533215479>a consensus of the states, not a consensus of the peopleThose should be the same thing>>533217611Yes, because nobody's fucking there
>>533200774that already happens with 7 states
>>533218022>This lady ran on being a moderate, then went full Commie globohomo.She was openly connected to the globalist system the entire time, there wasn't that much trickery really
>>533218534The State and the populace do not always have the same interest.Senators used to represent the States interest and the House the peoples.That is why the House has the power of the purse. Checks and balances.
>>533201867It isn't a democracy, it never was, and that's by design.
>>533200695True nothing-burger. Until a state that voted Trump in 2016 passes this, it’s nothing. The Compact has been stalled for fifteen years now with no path to 270, because only blue states are passing it. They’re running out of this low-hanging fruit.It speaks volumes about this place that many don't seem to understand this.
>>533219427Add in with population shifts after 2030 holding the blue wall won't get dems 270 anymore.They will have to start taking States Republicans usually win.
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>>533213359>wins the majority of votes cast>NUH UHBonafide retard cope
>>533201867>jamboy street shitting soundsBack to New Dehli with you saar.
>>533219427This, they're ~50 votes short with the largest left on the table being PA. They would need several swing states to sign on which isnt gonna happen.
>>533200774Except this literally already the case since EC still based off population but not exactly.
>>533210988Go back to r/conservative retard. Everything that disagrees with you isn't FUCKING raiding. You people are braindead.
>>533219860Not to mention the very realistic chance a court would strike it down.Also, I wonder what would happen if a Democrat won the Electoral College but lost the national popular vote, imagine California holding a special session to withdraw from the Compact and give the election to the Democrat. There's nothing binding whatsoever in it.
>>533200774City dwellers deciding anything is equivalent to rats deciding who feeds them.
>>533213684No retard the politicians would just buy votes in cities this is what happened in argentina after electoral college was abolished in the 90s then the entire political game became giving gibs to buenos aires and buenos aires suburbs as provinces become poor.
>>533219998I mean, California showed with the redistricting after years of anti-gerrymandering bluster and touting their California Citizens Redistricting Commission that they have zero principles, and will do whatever is most convenient at the moment to stick it to Republicans, so why would you trust them on this one?
>>533219998>imagine California holding a special session to withdraw from the Compact and give the election to the Democrat. There's nothing binding whatsoever in itYeah I can almost guarantee that's what would happen
This just biases the results from redjew to bluejew. Getting rid of the first-past-the-post or whatever it's called voting is far more important. Replace it with rating each candidate. That way you avoid all the mind game tricks kikes pull related to "strategic" voting, and "wasting" votes.
>>533200882Trump not just winning but winning with the popular vote is the funniest thing to happen in politics. I think it's funnier than Clinton getting stumped in 2016. Lefties can't seethe hard enough these days.
>>533200954>win an election with 30% of the voteWhat a disaster to ensure nothing ever happens. Then again nothing happens as it is. I blame judiasm
>>533220103The kikes have already captured the 2 parties so the biggest threat to them is a 3rd party. But of course, under the current American voting system, 3rd part is just "wasting" your vote. That way kikes maintain the political control. If instead the voting was based on you rating each candidate out of 10, this kike trick would not work so well.
>>533211343And with the popular vote you will still be a constitutional republic.
>all of the Democratic states pass this>red states start gaming the system by leaving Dems off of their ballots>Dems desperately backpedalSee also their anti-gerrymandering measures that they've all had to backtrack on
>>533201428Whos her jew boyfriend?
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>>533201867Democracy is a farce, even you would admit the masses are just a cudgel for our political agendas.
>>533208455And any lefty city can be turned into a sanctuary city, essentially legalizing fraud
>>533208076Pedro thinks just because he drinks 5 gallons of US corn syrup per day that this is all the US produces.
>>533200803why?
>>533201936The issue is that there is no actual official record of the national vote. All national vote estimations are unofficial and are not final. Only each state has access to its own voting data.
>>533202693Because regions literally determine shit, not people. Do you not understand that 500 million europeans are inherently more valueable than 2 billion africans because of the value of european land - or do you think its a race thing?
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.9:45 PM · Nov 6, 2012https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/266038556504494082
