Turns out Strayan's are even less free than we imagined. Imagine being forced to vote for some kike lol.
>>533246664and i still don't vote. get like a $140 fine every other year
>>533246664>than imaginedwhy the would you think we're free? we're a fucking prison colony
>>533246664Imagine if the fine was to vote. Like, if it cost $100 to cast a vote and that money must come from the person voting. Imagine how much better things would be and how quickly it would happen.
Not voting is how I choose to use my vote
>>533246664If I would be forced to vote, I would vote for the most crazy people available.I'm doing this anyway.
>>533247224Would be an pure oligarchyWoman would take credits for this shit.
>>533247313No that's what we have now. Well, oligarchy/corporatocracy here in burgerland.
>>533247284I just draw dicks on the ballot.Or a pregnant woman giving birth and write ONE VOTE FOR LABOUR
>>533246664they've talked about doing that here too. its such a retardedly shitty idea
>>533246664Technically you just need to have your name crossed off the list at your local polling place. You can just walk out after that. Still annoying though.
>>533246664Would
>>533247416America may be fucked, but holy Jesus am I glad Benjamin Franklin and his buddies were drunk enough off brandy and cougar pussy to form a half intelligent ideals to keep us from going through some of the bullshit they put you lot through.
>>533246664Mandatory participation in democracy keeps our country from turning into the circus which is yours. It's a very good system
can't you just vote for Captain Kangaroo or something?
>>533246664Is that the successor to Meta?
>>533247528Buddy you put people in concentration camps for not getting the jab and let women cuck every man in the country while giving noongas and packies free money. You've got nothing.
>>533247548You don't even have to vote, you just have to show up at the voting place. And there's free sausages there. It's a nice day out.>>533247574>muh campsimagine being this retarded
>>533246664I would pay that fine with a big smile. Imagine being dumb enough to voote and give credits to that system.> Next election is the most important ever bro I swearâ„¢
>>533247528>abos, neets and retards literally voting for the working man to buy them alcohol and RTX5070'sGreat system you fucking dickhead
>>533247528Yeah, it turns it into a zoo instead.
>>533246664No, that's only if you were tricked or dumb enough to register to vote, you don't need to register to vote at all.The only way out of the vote is to claim you are mentally retarded however that will permanently go on your record.
>>533247392kek
>>533247365It will be more obviously and openly agressive against white males until they are gone.You will be mexico in full
>>533247506your foundations are solid thats for sure. ours really aren't.
>>533246784can't you just draw "fuck niggers fuck jeets fuck chinks fuck jews", embellished by a giant penis, and use the fine money to buy beers and knives for your local abbos?
>>533247718you don't get fined for defacing your ballot, you can write anything want on it. You just need to show up. Or you can vote by mail if you don't want to go to a physical place. You just need to do one or the other. Only absolute retards get fined.
>>533247764The point is: that still count as "participation". Which is the whole point to justify politics and make them credible.No vote = no credibility
>>533247866this. its just more bullshit tactics to try making things look great by lying with numbers. its an admission of failure
>>533246664Last state election I provided my details then left the ballot blank. You just have to show up.
>>533249793seems like a pointless humiliation ritual
>>533247528More like it ensures every TV-brained uninformed apathetic moron votes for a major party
>>533247866The vast majority of people who show up end up voting. And the fact that we have 91% participation rate in federal elections means extremists never get critical mass like they do in the US. The US system is based on 'enthusiasm' and driving fringe and extremist groups to the polls by making niche promises like banning abortion or loosening gun restrictions. In Australia, driving people to the polls is pointless because they're already turning up to the polls. So you have to pick policies that have very broad appeal, which forces moderation.>>533249910Major parties have the lowest primary vote in their entire history in the 2025 election. In a few more elections, they may have 10-15% primary vote at the current rate.
>>533249944>which forces moderation.which in practice means things get worse and more socialist always. the good thing about the US system is that the two parties have such a spectrum of beliefs within them that they have to broadly appeal too, but without having to weaken themselves on core distinctives. this prevents the kind of thing you're talking about, where your parties, like ours and in the UK, are basically all the same so you end up with no choices of import.
>>533246664Why not just vote for Thomas Sewell?
>>533250088>the two parties have such a spectrum of beliefs within them that they have to broadly appeal tooThis is just fucking stupid and ignorant. There is no leftist party in the US. There is also no serious greens movement. Independents are not a thing beyond a few token seats. Australia has massively more diversity of political options due to preferential voting. The US system is first-past-the-post - absolutely fucked and nothing anyone should aspire to. Even the Canadian parliamentary system is significantly superior, because the leader can be removed by a simple vote, not 25th amendment bullshit which is an impossible bar to reach.
>>533250170>There is no leftist party in the USof course there is - the Dems. they have their share of wacko commies mixed in there and the party in general has shifted more left over time. they are the ones you vote for if you want harsher gun laws, state run healthcare and so on> Even the Canadian parliamentary system is significantly superior,no its not, because we have NO choice. its jeets jeets and more jeets, and theres nothing you can do. the one party that could possibly maybe offer something gets officially excluded from everything even when meeting certain stated thresholds etc.The us system has plenty of restraints placed on the president, though of course some of those have been weakened over time and that does need correction. the leader in our system means little anyway because he's just a tool of those around him due to that fact that he is so easily got rid of.
>>533246784What the fuck is it really that much? I thought it was only like $25 so I didnt bother voting the other week.
>>533250395>of course there is - the DemsDems are neoliberal, not leftist. They hate actual leftists like Bernie and Mamdani. Maybe go learn the difference, you're on a politics board and should know this already
>>533246664>You didn't vote!>Yes I did.>No fineIt's that easy.
>>533250528the dems spectrum runs from centrists to the extremes you mentioned. you might noticed that they've had significant support, though thankfully not enough. but theres no denying that the dems are broadly the left choice in the US. its retarded to deny this. but then, you are from australia so, like here, all people are used to is leftism. like here you dont have one party against things like state run healthcare which you likely cant imagine being against.oh, and canads uses first past the post too.
>>533249944> extremists> moderatesLook at you reciting the lyrics of the sermon. Good kattle, you were well-mannered.> because they're already turning up to the pollsAKA> Noooo nooo don't fine me! I need that $100 to buy the next slop. I'll vote whoever you want. Who? "Moderates"? Deal!> So you have to pick policies that have very broad appealIt's still a lie and you admiting to believe it means they brain fucked you.
>>533246664Only if you enrolled to vote, and even then, you don't need to vote. You just need to get your name ticked off to say you voted. Then they hand you your ballot paper, you draw an extra box and write Hitler next to it, mark him No. 1, put it in the box and go and get a democracy sausage then fuck off down the pub.
>>533246664
>>533250798+1 participation> Our party election is historic and legitimate: six gorillas went out to vote. Democracy works; there’s no reason to change it.
>>533250676>like here you dont have one party against things like state run healthcare which you likely cant imagine being against.It would be absurd to be against state run healthcare unless are some brainwashed pro-corporatist ideologue. But unlike Canada, we have a parallel private system if you don't like the public system. More choice is always good.
>>533246664I go and vote, but I write different names on the paper
>>533250937>It would be absurd to be against state run healthcarelike i said. if you see things this way then of course you'd see even the more centrist dems as not left enough. >more choice is goodtrue. thats why im glad i can just cross the border to the US if some urgent health problem appears, and escape the death care system we have here which makes it so that i cant even get my family on the books of a doctor.
>>533250567I see you've played votey boothy before
>>533246664Because they have to maintain the illusion of democracy and implied consent of the governed.If enough people stop voting their fake legitimacy falls to pieces.
>>533250567>do as you're told!>when you're told to do it!>or else!sounds like freedom to me
>>533251050Sorry your government runs your system so poorly, there is no wait to get a doctor here in the public system. Public wait lists for non-essential surgery here is long, but private health insurance is pretty cheap by American standards, so not terrible if you want to go private instead. If only Canada had a competent conservative party to properly hold the Liberals to account.
>>533246664>Hegelian dialectic at gunpoint
>>533247528all it does is just ensure retards write 1 2 3 4 5 in order on the balloy so that they can leave and save themselves 30 bucks
>>533251157something like that yeah. but theres even less difference between the sides here than for you by the sounds of it
>>533251384You're just revealing that you personally are stupid. Most people follow how to vote cards at the very least. Anyone who follows politics even remotely is capable of preferencing tactically (independents, third parties first, majors last).
>>533246664I just make the tax payers foot the bill for a doctors appointment that day.
>>533246664The fine is $20 AUD for not voting in the federal elections.>But you don't actually have to vote, you just have to turn up to a polling place and get your name marked offStill easily worth the $20 to not have to deal with the retarded scum that are the Australian public.
>>533246664I donkey vote>flagWhat are you gonna do about it you fackin pasty white ass?
>>533251635I don't know who thought it was a good idea to force the uninterested and ignorant into voting
>>533251873If you don't force them into voting, you get the American system where special interest groups like anti-abortion groups can mobilize and end up deciding the election due to low voter turnout which is very undemocratic. Texas has 10% turnout for some elections, so special interest groups can easily swing elections.
>>533251969hopefully all those people who feel its wrong to be forced into political participation will vote for a sensible party that offers to get rid of the stupid fines system
I forgot to vote last state election and got the letter asking me to explain myself. I got chatGPT to write a very polite 4000 word letter copiously explaining with Biblical verses why it's against my religious beliefs. Never heard back from them.
>>533252110nobody even cares about the fine system because people are happy to spend 15 minutes getting a free sausage at the voting place on a Saturday
>>533252200does nobody care about principles there either?
>>533251969So your politics isn't run by "special interest groups"?Do you really believe all the bullshit you write or you just play retard RP?
>>533252280What are these "principles" of which you speak?
>>533246664It's to stop people like Trump being elected, if everyone is forced to vote it means a cult of deluded idiots are unlikely to get into power.
>>533251969I guess there is a point there. But around here voting is voluntary, I think about 2/3s vote. The other third just don't understand who the parties are and what they stand for so do the right thing and abstain, let the smart people make the decisions
>>533247718You can but you are giving your consent to be governed by participating.
>>533252280voting is one of your very few obligations to society, thankfully there's very few 'muh rights' lolberts in Australia>>533252400Of course there are sinister special interest groups here. But they don't try to interfere with elections here, because it's too hard with mandatory voting, unlike the US where they shamelessly do it
>>533251969>Australian "democracy":You WILL participate in our gay system!
>>533252200wtf there's free sausages? i mean not like my vote will make any difference (RIP shooters party) but still. every time i go there's never free food, lame
>>533246784>$140what the fuck lol, over here we get fined if we don't vote but the fine is like 50 cents to 1 dollar, so I never vote because it's actually more expensive to get an uber to the school to vote than just paying the fine
>>533252628Go vote for lolberts or something, every vote sends a message to the majors and gives funding to whoever you first preference>>533252604Sure beats the British system where inbred perpetually drunk halfwits like Farage are popular
>>533252641i think he hasn't voted in years. the first time you don't it's like 25 bucks or something. after that they increase but for the kind of people to reach that point, it's like drawing blood from a stone
>>533252413indeed>>533252555>voting is one of your very few obligations to society,who says? why not just count my non-vote as a spoiled ballot, since i clearly registered to vote but didn't exercise the right this time? why not making registering mandatory too? resorting to fines to encourage the voters is such an obvious sign of failing politics its not even funny. a retarded lazy reaction that undermines the very idea of a free country.
>>533252555>obligations to societyNobody gives a fuck about society in the big 26...
>>533252677lol. i see where this is going. on the one hand you say 'more choice is good' while on the other you want choices you dont agree with punished through fines etc. whats wrong with farage? dot like his stance on immigration?
>>533246664Imagine being forced to vote for the regime because you're too poor to refuse. Literal serfdom. The Australians should burn the parliament down.
>>533252734If you read up about it they did it as a desperate attempt to maintain the illusion of legitimacy because so many people couldn't give a shit.
>>533252555So it's the same thing, but better hidden.You accept to get fucked in the ass, but try to negociate to keep it secret.That's so typically australian of you
>>533246784>he actually pays it
>>533252801He fucked up Britain with Brexit, which didn't lower migration but just ended up changing European migration for North African and Indian migration.
Never voted and never been fined. 59 yrs old. The trick is to never enrol. Once you enrol they can fine you. Fuck em. They send me letters sometimes saying im legally required to enrol. Lolno
>>533252818From what I understand regarding Australia you can essentially make-up a reason for why you didn't go and they have to accept it.
>>533252902That's also a thing when you enroll you are agreeing to that extra bullshit which includes being fined for not participating.
>>533252818>The Australians should burn the parliament downmost people here would probably fight for it.case in point, a few years back a journalist got sponsored by one of the local car magazines to drive from melbourne to sydney at 130 kph in all the 110 zones, only slowing down when the posted limit fell below that or due to things like school or construction zones etc.the cops unsurprisingly seethed about it, but the depressing thing was that a lot of regular people that caught wind of this little experiment sided with the cops because it was apparently so dangerous and reckless etc. etc. even though half of the roads on that route one could easily do >150 kph with no real issue.
>>533252857i didn't, but its the clear intention. lefties governments love tinkering with the surface of things in order to get the numbers they want to have so that they can point to them and shout 'LOOK! We doing such a good job'. its all make believe. the same theme runs through so much of what these kinds of people have done.>>533252898well, people wanted it didn't they? more choice is a good thing remember.
>heh, you guys think voting actually changes everything? I'm not an idiot, I'll be staying home and paying the governmentt. aus/pol/ anti-vootfags at every electionor goes to all of the effort to go vote, draws a dick on the ballot then proceeds to complain about life/the government on social media.
>>533253044People were lied to. They believed Brexit would lower migration generally but Farage and Johnson lied to them. But you already know this and are just being a disingenuous faggot
Just check every box and write "I love Israel" on the formIt's what I would do if I was forced to vote
>>533253065Who ever said we must be governed by this bullshit system at all?
>>533246664Once a prison, always a prison... Mate.
>>533253082but people wanted lower immigration right? that was the main thing, along with ideas of sovereignty from the madness of europe. good messages to send, and farage was the figurehead of for those ideas. i like him for that.not really sure why immigration didn't change much, or perhaps it did a bit, but its not as if he personally had total control over that. im sure he did want a lot less wogs coming in.
>>533253065Giving them legitimacy by participating surely will show them, huh?
>>533253121enrolling to vote in Australia is still optional. The catch is that if you don't, you aren't able to access government services.If you reject the validity of the system, it is your right to not participate in it but cunts get upset when you tell them this because they want the entitlements.You only get a very avoidable fine if you voluntarily enroll to vote and then don't (without explanation*). I don't want to sound like a statist cuck but Australia has one of the better governing models in the world, the real problem is that the place is full of Australians and now other assortments of gibmonkey turd world communists that believe the governments only exist to give things to you in no exchange.
>>533253314>people wanted lower immigration rightthey got the opposite. Immigration went way up. And it was no longer Europeans, it was North Africans and Indians, so subjectively worse than before.So Brits got the opposite of what they voted for. In a sane world Farage would have no career now and be persona non grata in politics generally. Unfortunately Brexit voters don't even understand how hard they got screwed by Farage, which is why Reform exists, despite being Boris Johnson era Tories rebranded - ie complete shit.
>>533253376do they stop taxing you for those services if you opt out? i bet they dont.
>>533253376They've put you in detention center during covid. I don't know who you try to fool with that "best government" bullshit. World sees you as a prison power fantasy country
>>533253376>. I don't want to sound like a statist cuck but Australia has one of the better governing models in the world, the real problem is that the place is full of Australianssounds like the government really should elect another people then. seems they've gone of the rails a bit. Perhaps they should try applying more coercive measures first?>>533253445>got the opposite of what they voted for.such is life. But Farage wasn't really in a position to enforce the lower immigration he and everyone else wanted was he now. like the reaction from Europe, was was definitely spiteful, the increased immigration your pic shows really seems to me to along the same lines - a punishment for opposing the ideology of the elite.
>>533253517>detention centeryou misspelled concentration camp
>>533253517Only international arrivals were quarantined. Virtually all Asian countries did this. Even the US did for a while. Nobody from broader society was put in camps. This is nonsense spread by schizophrenic Americans high on Newsmax
>>533246664if voting changed anything (((they))) would make it illegalthe fact that some countries made it mandatory shows it's nothing more than a humiliation ritual without meaningful consequences to the state itself
>>533253692It's more than just a humiliation ritual, it's literally consent. If everyone didn't go and said "we don't want to be governed by you" then what could they do?
>>533253450If you're going to say fuck the system, you need to commit to the bit and live entirely through cash payments.I actually don't think the tax office would come hunting down a lone schizo tax dodger, it'd be harder to find them without paper trails. >>533253517The powers used by certain states during COVID were unconstitutional abuses of power beyond the scope of government powers. Again, the problem was not the system but the fact that the people were willing to overlook unconstitutional actions because they believed it was only their 'enemies' that were the victims. When I say that we have one of the better systems of government and elections, I'm not saying it's all roses but the world is so bleak that you'd struggle to find many nations with a better system than ours.
>>533253692Voting has massive impact. Why do you think they put so much effort into voter suppression in the US? Why do you think Orban spent billions and brought in Vance and Putin trying to beat Magyar
>>533253743it's not consent if you can't say no, and there's never a "none of the above" option>>533253760oh look it's the retarded aussie shill that doesn't know that there's no difference between orbán and magyar besides rhetoric and literally nothing will change long term
>>533253760>Why do you think they put so much effort into voter suppression in the US? Why do you think Orban spent billions and brought in Vance and Putin trying to beat MagyarTo keep the illusion that you have a choice. It really is that simple.>both options suck but at least option B is slightly less bad than option AThis is the trap you see, the idea that you have to choose either of them.
>>533252902do you know anyone that ever successfully unenrolled and not just because they were permanently leaving the country or dead?
>>533251468Voting should be restricted to people with an IQ over 115. It should be mandatory that you do the test, and from there, your eligibility is given.No bullshit about race or creed, couldn't care less where you're from, just straight up "if you can imagine the taste of an apple you might eat tomorrow, then you get a vote". You cannot be a good person and be against what I've just posted.There's s reason I'm not a brain surgeon, and I'm fine with it.There is also a reason some people are not qualified to take part in the discussion of a country's direction in the world stage.
>>533253825The consent is acknowledging it without objection.
>>533253825>no difference between orbán and magyar besides rhetoricThis is just ridiculously ignorant. For starters, Hungary no longer blocks Ukraine funding by the EU which is a huge change. Tisza is also pro-EU generally and Hungary is now on Russia's 'unfriendly countries list'. Ukraine may end up winning the war because of the election of Magyar.
>>533253655> While travellers from COVID-19 hotspot areas such as Victoria and Sydney face restrictions on interstate travel, they can travel to Darwin.> Once there, they have to quarantine at a facility in the city's rural area for two weeks, at a cost of $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for a family.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-11/quarantine-in-darwin-howard-springs-facility-becomes-a-holiday/12648762One fake flu from china and your masters put you back behind bars. Think about that.
>>533253860The difficulty is trying to unenroll after enrolling, if you never enrolled to begin with then you never agreed to it.
>>533253913The restrictions were only during outbreaks which lasted 2 weeks at a time. And most states had no restrictions at all. Australia ended up having an extremely low death rate per capita globally during covid. You're way out of your depth here.
>>533253884there's literally no way to object besides not going and eating the fine, or you know, in some south american shithole, getting debanked for not voooooooooting>>533253894you do know he won't be in power for another month, right? he can say whatever the fuck he wants until then, and if you knew orbán as well as I do you'd know he also said whatever the fuck he wanted, only to *do* the exact opposite in silence
>>533246664>Australia fines you if you don't vote lolNo, the government just sends you a scary letter asking for money that they never follow up on.
>>533254001He's already threatened the TV networks with taking their licenses unless they report the actual news instead of just Fidesz news and has allowed actual journalists into his first press conference instead of just Fidesz stooges like it was previously. Off to a good start.
>>533254041orbán did the same shit in 2010
>>533254108EU is witholding 17bn euros in funding to Hungary unless Magyar gets Hungary's shit together, so he has a good motivator to turn things aroundAnd if he decides to retread Orban's path, EU will probably invent a way to kick a member state out for the first time ever
>>533253996The one who believes in vote also believes in covid. Color me surprised!How many boosters do you have? 2? 3?When did you stop and became anti-vaxx?
>>533254266Who knew France had American-style schizos in it? I thought you guys had a public mental healthcare system, that was always America's excuse for having so many schizos
>>533254325No answer, huh? Why deflecting?Not proud about your 3 boosters anymore? KEK
>>533254217anon, you're telling me all this like I haven't been living my whole life here since 1990nothing meaningful will change because nothing meaningful has changed since I was born. professed sides, ideologies and figures change but shit stays the same regardless.
>>533254523Ok well at the very least Ukraine finally gets their funding because Tisza no longer vetos EU votes just because Russia tells them to, if Magyar shits the bed beyond that then I guess at least it isn't worse than it was before
>>533254687we'll see when he actually gets into power... I won't hold my breath.
>>533253760I sure feel empowered at the ballot box knowing that I'm voting against imported shitskin slave workers and rugby enjoying goy cattle masses who consistently vote for the boomer uniparty.
>>533253376>it is your right to not participate in it but cunts get upset when you tell them this because they want the entitlements>entitlements paid for by a percentage of your labor Speaks fucking volumes about your character basically handwaving that other leafs point
>>533254796Major parties are dying in Australia
>>533249944>moderate policies>vote for me and I'll import the entire third world to Australia to act as a wage suppressor and to drive up housing costs skyhigh Why vote when every party has the exact same policies?
>>533254841I updated your graphic with the aggregate data of where things stand in 2026. One Nation alone are at 25%, the combined major party vote now is just barely scratching 50%.It's also worth mentioning how soft Liberal and Labor's remaining vote is
>>533255151what are the issues driving the uptick for the orange line?
>>533255151Yeah major parties are on their death bed because neither wants to turn off the migration tap nor is remotely interested in what the public wants on this issue. Labor in particular is incredibly arrogant and out of touch. Liberals are just incompetent
>>533246831You don't have to vote for a kike, you can vote for a based Muslim or Chinese.
>>533246664At Soviet Union you could delegate your voting....socialist party happily voted for you.
>>533255300https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2026/03/net-long-term-arrivals-hit-new-high-in-january/Government is mass importing Indians, Canada style and won't stop, despite becoming very unpopular. Australia's conservatives are like Canada's conservatives. Devoutly pro-US, pro-Israel and deeply incompetent, so the Labor party (equivalent to Canada Liberals but more left wing) feels no reason to change course because there's no real threat from the conservatives.There's a party called One Nation which is funded by Australia-based billionaire friend of MAGA and is anti-migration and is now up to 30% of the vote. It's basically an anti-immigration protest party. It's getting so popular now that Labor will have no choice but to act soon.
>>533254841>>533255151Even One Nation are pro-israel kike lovers.Nothing will change. They voted for Brexit in the UK. That was a vote against immigration and globalist policies.What difference did it make? The immigration continued. Adherence the globalist agenda continued.In the US, they voted for Trump. For getting out of pointless forever wars in the Middle East. Against immigration.And yet, nothing changed except Trump himself. From anti-pointless war to "whatever Bibi says".There is no politicial solution.
>>533247224Dear fucking God you just fixed Judaism
>>533255300jeetsIf you look into it, you'll see a million other reasons why but the reality of why we are seeing such a huge shift in Aus voting intentions out of nowhere is this:>conservative party that has successfully gatekept the far-right installs retarded woman girlboss leader>their popularity collapses, leading their base to park their vote with the anti-immigration party>anti-immigration party becomes popular enough that criticising migration becomes socially acceptable for the first time>immigration immediately becomes #1 issue bolstering what would've been temporary support into permanent supportThey can't get the cat back in the bag. It's very funny because nothing specifically happened to necessitate the sudden outrage about immigration, conformist fucks were just waiting for others to speak up first. Now jeet hatred is open and everywhere. Even the terrorist attack wasn't a big vote shifter, just casual racism becoming commonplace.
>>533255592>fixed judaismBy letting the kikes who print the money decide who gets to vote? uwotm8If voting actually mattered, that would be extremely retarded.
>>533246664I didn't vote for a 25 year patch. Nothing happened.
>>533255571>don't bother voting against immigration because things happen in other countriesthe anti-vooter rears his head, he will do nothing and he will blame the jews
>>533255639The women won't pay.All that effort propagandising women, weaponising them... Wasted.What a glorious occasion.And the Jews will offer vote loans too, with funny interest rates.Fuck they might just pay for people to vote just for the humiliation factor alone... and inadvertently piss people off with the mockery while exposing their Judaism to more and more people.
>>533255466>>533255636thought so. i bet, if they are get any power, not much will change. just like with brexit. forced mass immigration seems to be THE driving issue for all western governments. nothing anyone can do makes any difference.
>>533255466There's no incompetence anon. Everything is planned well in advance. You don't think stuff just happens and big gov just reacts do you?
>>533255466Oh and one nation is like Mars. It's there to suck up all the disaffected and give them avenue to vent. They'll do nothing. The last 20 photos I've seen of Pauline she was wearing Indian turbans or burkas or Muslim garb. Such is the problem with australia. Not even the pol anons know what's going on.
>>533255778k, go ahead and waste your time. If I'm right, (and I am) it won't matter anyway.Even if you manage to vote One Nation in, the immigration won't stop for (((reasons))). The media might stop covering it. They might claim less immigrants are being allowed in. But they'll keep importing them in record numbers regardless.It's exactly what we've seen play out already in the UK with Brexit, and in the US with Trump.They'll say all the right things to get elected, and then once they're in power, nothing changes.
>>533255639Muh jewwwws. You're so fucking brainwashed matey. Oh no no no boys them jewwwwwws just too tricky for everyone! Not like this bros. Do you know how to read? Maybe go read some old books. Learn about the jewwwwwws larp. Or stay dumb. I don't care. That goes for the rest of you dummies.
>>533255825It's because the government can't pay pensions to the massive boomer generation without more tax revenue and birth rates are too low to create the next generation of taxpayers. Boomers are also hoarding all the properties so couples can't afford to buy housing. So the government panics and imports legions of foreign labor to pay for all the boomers benefits. The problem is the public has reached their tolerance level of mass migration, specifically of Indians. So the next plans is not to stop mass migration but to start mass migrating Europeans here via the new European free trade deal. We still get pummelled with migrants, but they're white and the government thinks that will fix the problem. Nobody is offering migration slowing down other than ONP and they will probably rugpull everyone once they get into power because that's what all right-wing populist parties do when you entrust them into government - Trump, Farage, Johnson, all handing out fell for it awards.
>>533256092>it's totally not the jews!Uh huh. You sure convinced me! I'll be sure to spread the word... From the river to the sea.
>>533255825eh. A problem is that successive governments have fucked our economy into being built around migration. If we stop flooding the nation with migrants, the housing price crashes through the floor and we have no other industry anymore. A significant portion of the workforce is housing-centric. A full-stop pause on migration + mass deportations would be a hard pill to swallow.So yes, if they were seriously approaching governance, they would (and already have) began softening their language when they look at the numbers. Best outcome we could get is a palette-swap, a focus on higher quality Euro-centric migration and a serious attempt at pivoting our economy away from debt-trap housing scams. At this point, I'd be happy to bring back chinks in exchange for the jeetwaves we have been getting recently>>533256016The internet has rotted your brain
>>533256305>The internet has rotted your brainAnd the talmud has rotted your soul, if you ever had one. (Doubtful)
>>533256092The kattle vooter, with 3 covid booster, and ukraine supporter, has something to say about jews. Like poetry.
>>533246664I vote for the socialists, you have a socialist party right because freedom?
>>533256204i think those reasons are only part of whats going on, and at least one of them is self contradictory - if people cant get a house, why flood the country with more people who needs houses? also, Farage wasn't in power with the whole brexit thing. he pushed for the referendum but he was still just a leader of small party. its the ones in power that turned around and increased immigration as a big fuck you, because immigration seems to be the one thing that cannot stop.
>>533256483>if people cant get a house, why flood the country with more people who needs housesit only seems contradictory but it's actually fully intentional. this anon gets it >>533256305Massively pumping demand (mass migration) while not building enough new houses (supply) causes housing prices to skyrocket. It's a giveaway to property investors. The whole Australia (and I hear Canadian) economy is based around housing speculation and investment. There's no actual productive industry, just mining, agriculture and housing speculation that makes up our GDP. Canada is mining (potash), fossil fuels (oil) and housing speculation. Our countries are remarkably similar in their degenerate economies.
>>533256415I think there's some jeeeewwwwws behind your fridge anon. Panic stations! It's a Jewish conspiracy!! Ruin run run
>>533250937>state run healthcareYeah, it's so awesome being on multi year waiting lists for surgery performed by an incompetent saar.
>>533247224This is already how it currently works. They even give the non-paying people fake votes to pretend with so they get to play along and feel apart of it.
>>533256676>I think there's some jeeeewwwwws behind your fridgeNo, I keep them all in the oven.
>>533256587yeah i get the thing about house prices but i just dont think thats the main or only reason. same with the pensions, because so many of the people brought in will never contribute anyway.
>>533256418of course you do, you entitled, bone idle pom
>>533256882You get on down and see Rajeesh he good in medicines for the keep the body smooth
>>533256882Private health insurance is pretty damn cheap here. You can get access to the private system for $30/week here
>>533256931That's cool anon. I remember when I fell for my first jewwwwws done it larp too
>>533256994>I remember when I fell for my first jewwwwws done itOh yeah, when was that? When you realized your foreskin was missing?
>>533246664I bet fines are low and eventually relieved
>>533256955In 1990 Australia had>nationalized banking>nationalized power>nationalized water>nationalized communications>nationalized rail>nationalized portsNationalization is great, even the Saudis have nationalized oil.Either the state owns it or the jews do, pick wisely.
>>533246664When I heard that Australia does this it red pilled me on how pointless voting is. Australia just takes the humiliation ritual to the next level.
>>533257065>Either the state owns it or the jews doSo either way, it's the jews?
>>533246664Those things look like they can smoke some serious meat
>>533257065Yeah Bob Hawke and Paul Keating fucked it all up. Hawke introduced HECS too after they all got free university education. Boomers ruined this country
>>533257118There are politicians AIPAC and AIJAC hate, vote for them.>>533257158Hawke and Keating were the start, Howard was the end.
>>533254001>there's literally no way to object besides not going and eating the fineYou're just weak.
>>533257065>These other socialists who also take half your earnings at gunpoint won't fuck things up the same way. It'll be different this time!
>>533247639Registration is trap here to . There is a form to cancel your registration here in America . I did that because most people don’t know Registration is a contract that makes you even more of a tool of the government. That’s why this push registration so hard here.
>>533257186>just keep votingYou do know the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, always expecting a different result than the one you keep getting, right?Vote for whoever you want, if you feel like it. It's not going to make any difference though. There is no political solution.
>>533257336If you don't talk to people and try to convince them to vote to improve things at least kill some politicians.You can just look up who voted for a policy you really hate.
>>533247866>None of the above
>>533257323Australian taxation is much lower than European, it's more in line with American. It's a country heavily subsidized by taxes on resource extraction like gas and mining. Australia is basically a bunch of mines in a trenchcoat posing as a country, much like Norway is a bunch of oil fields in a trenchcoat.
>>533257430If you are taking 50% of earnings in taxes and other bullshit government charges, which you certainly are, you're socialist by fucking default, thief.
>>533257411>kill some politicians.Now that could work, theoretically, if it was a common enough occurence.But it's not common enough, in Australia at least, to be a serious deterrent.
>>533253655I saw a lot of footage of Australian citizens be hassled by the cops and sent to camps.
>>533257034Another zinger. It's painful when people don't fall into line with your jewwwww larp isn't it. Humour is the answer. Maybe a Ben Stiller movie?
>>533257430>Australian taxation is much lower than EuropeanIt's really not. Many EU countries just have income and capital gains taxes, we have fuel excise, GST, payrole tax ext.Our total tax burden (all taxes combined based on average spend) is 30%.
>>533246664It is not mandatory to register to vote, but once you do you're committed until you move to another state where you'll have to register to vote again.Once you are registered to vote, you are only obligated to attend a polling station to have your name ticked off - you do not have to vote.The idea behind this is that politicians cannot manipulate voting by placing voting stations that are convenient in districts where they are popular and inconvenient where they are unpopular, because those registered to vote have to attend regardless. I understand this is a workable tactic in U.S. elections where someone trying for the Hispanic vote and unpopular with the white vote will accommodate for the Hispanic community by choosing polling locations more convenient for them and less convenient for white communities who will decide not to vote out of convenience. You're not "free" - you're manipulated.
>>533257158LOL boomers boomers boomers. I don't know what's more tragic. The oh no no no boys them jewwwwwwws done it.....or the muh boomers ruined my life boys not like this oh no no no brigade. When you gonna wake up kids?
>>533257581>hassled by the copsYes>sent to campsNoImagine me looking at ICE detention centers and saying "Americans are being put in camps", same thing.
>>533257614>Humour is the answer.If you're not going to take the conversation seriously, why should I?
If you dont pay the fine they take your license. I was driving around for three years with an suspended license and was unaware until I bought a new car and tried to register it.
>>533257660>Our total tax burden (all taxes combined based on average spend) is 30%.Average EU tax rate is 43%. We are taxed way less than yuros
>>533257581Did you ever think whatever faggot influencer was showing you this might not be telling you the whole truth?
>>533257430>>533257660Australia has tons of random fees like mandatory injury insurance to register your car, stamp duty on used cars, high registration fees, that other countries dont.
>>533257772>tax wedgeThat is just income tax + payrole tax, you are repeating what I said but using data to try and lie.
>>533257800Fuck off. They pepper sprayed then repeated kicked a 70 year old woman as she lay on the ground. They kicked old men out of wheel chairs. They smashed faces in of women. It wasnt until the CMFEU riots that forced the cops to retreat that they stopped being so abusive.
>>533257832European VAT is 20% and their fuel excise is 50-60% of the final price, so much higher than ours. That's on top of their 40-50% base tax rate (wedge). You're just an idiot
>>533246664i go down to the local school, get a sausage sandwich and donkey vote, its an Australian tradition.
>>533257871The burgerposter is claiming that people were herded into camps which is nonsense. I said nothing about the protests and police violence which was embarrassing and unnecessary
>>533257830did you hear the one about the country that charges full sales tax every time you buy a used car?
>>533257932Nice turd, bro
>>533257329A lot of people seem to dismiss it but your consent does matter otherwise why would they want it so much?
>>533253376>I don't want to sound like a statist cuckI very much doubt that. >>Australia has one of the better governing models in the world>I-it just doesn't work because uh... because Australians!
>>533255105Some of those parties promise to only import all of India and Pakistan but tell the Flips to stay home
>>533254325>convid was super duper real guise!fuck off back to plebbit with your statist kike faggotry
>>533246664You should get a little tax break if you vote, or a penalty if you don't... whichever way you want to label it.
>>533255929>>533255466There's no way in hell One Nation are getting anywhere in this climate. All trumpian politics are tainted now. One Nation. Israel. no thanks
>>533258317Canada btw, in case anyone was wondering
>>533260231They are doing shockingly well in recent polls among men, I wouldn't be too sure about that. The general public is apparently sick to death of immigration driving up housing prices. Most people haven't connected them to MAGA and Trump, despite them being deeply integrated behind the scene. Hanson and Rinehart have been to tons of events at Mar-a-Lago
>>533260508>Most people haven't connected them to MAGA and Trump, despite them being deeply integrated behind the sceneBehind the scene? You gotta be fuckin kidding me. The fat fuck that started it was litterally aussie trump. This was back when people still liked trump around 2016. One Nation has always been bootleg maga. this isn't some hidden lore, you just take one look at them. Funnily enough judging by our own lore the treachery behind "(We are) One Nation (But we are many)" is also super on the nose.
>>533246664>living in a dystopia where pedo elites rule you>oh no, imagine how dystopian it would be if you were forced to vote
>>533262527kind of is when you think about it, since no matter what you vote for, those pedo elites carry right on pedoing. being forced to vote is a humiliation and mockery if thats what you believe is really going on.
>>533246664That's the stage before the final stage.When everyone knows your vote doesn't matter, but the government still needs to refer to the voter turnout to be able to lie that "the people wanted this".EU is in a similar spot, if you look at an Eu election campaign, it's all>Vote, Go and Vote!It doesn't matter to whom.
>>533262527Voting provides a veneer of legitimacy to an illegitimate system, dummy.
>>533262918yes. they lust for the appearance of legitimacy and participation in their shit without the reality of either of those things, which they know very well this increase of coercion does nothing to tackle whatsoever
>>533250473It was $100 for a fucking local election for me.
>>533263031thinking of the state as a jealous shitty boyfriend always works for me. in this context of forced voting its like this boyfriend getting to tell all his friends that his girlfriend says she loves him 10x a day......but fails to mention that he threatens each time to punch her in the face if she doesn't
>>533263471I think of statism as a form of Stockholm syndrome and the most dangerous,violent religion ever invented.
>>533259498shalom
>>533264053yes, i can go along with that for sure
>>533246784> paying NOT to votefpbp
>>533247598>t. white English race traitor who fled his own mutt country KEK
>>533256305>access to undeniable, repeated truth as to what will happen has rotted your brainPerhaps, perhaps. . .
>>533246664Many countries do. It's symbolic. Not a big fine.
>>533246664I wish the U.S. did this.
>>533246664I've made the mistake of telling normgroids who I vote for, and every time they seem to assume my singular vote caused X or Y thing to happen. Like genuinely the average cunt is so retarded it's insane.It works the other way around too, where they seem to believe their one (1) (unos) vote changes the country (and they assume the elections are even real to begin with lel)
>>533255466>Government is mass importing Indianswhy do OZ-fags love to lie about india so much? just last week, OZland has put indian students in the EL-3 visa category (highest evidence requirement), and data from feb shows that ~40% of applicants from india were handed-out outright visa rejections (a record high).i really don't understand their fixation on india.
>>533252898>>533253445>and India>Roughly 74,000 Indian nationals left the UK in the year ending June 2025, the highest among non-EU nationalities, driven by strict immigration rule changes, reduced post-study work opportunities, and high living costs. This includes 45,000 students and 22,000 work-visa holders, amidst an 80% drop in overall UK net migration.lying, disingenuous faggot.
>>533246664I only accept if you can vote white and white win both candidat lose and we do election with new candidat