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>>533637704
Rich kids don’t really learn shit in college. They might make connections but that’s about it
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>>533637704
>get meme degree
>have infinite money anyway
>get hired into high paying job via nepotism

nigger
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We always need janitors and unclean tradesmen, you should go to church, not college. Britght minds go to college, and you are blessed with a tight intellect
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>>533637704
>being this low iq
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>>533637764
Connections to porn and escort agencies.
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>>533637704
I bet she cheats on her husband all.the time
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>>533637783
>tight
He means bussy.
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Rich people can afford college
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>>533637704
Rich kids can afford to waste half a mill on bullshit psychology phD's.
poorfags cant.
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>>533637704
College for rich kids is for the purpose of networking with other rich kids so they can stay rich.
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>>533637841
Better than anything you or I would do in college
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Cool, it's this thread again.
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>>533637704
Pic related is married to a drug addict.
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>>533637786
Iq is fake and gay metric.
t. - i have 130 iq
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>>533637864
Your mom cheats on her husband all.the time
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You’re not gonna get a good job coming out of college anymore anyway unless you’re connected so it really doesn’t matter.
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>>533637704
Rich people's kids don't go to college for anything other than a place to hang out and fuck other hot rich kids. They certainly aren't spending life changing amounts of their own money to be there, nor are they spending their valuable time trying to get good grades. How naive can you be?
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>>533637704
University was legitimately the best time of my life and I genuinely don’t think people without degrees should be allowed to vote.
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>>533637704
College is a scam
We need poor people to work in the mines
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>>533638286
People who had the best years of their life at college got bullshit degrees and/or cheated their way through class without learning anything. No exceptions.
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>>533637783
>We always need janitors and unclean tradesmen, you should go to church, not college
Why would you pay a tradesman or janitor a living wage? There are like 4 billion people in the world eager to do these jobs for $100/day.
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>>533637772
Rich people don't send their kids to state university. They send their kids to somewhere like Stanford or Harvard, which isn't for getting a job, rather when the kids graduate, they do so debt free and start a business instead.
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>>533637704

Education is an expensive commodity.

Knowledge is free and all of it is at your fingertips.
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>>533637704
You know that degrees in especially high demand are pretty much free, right?
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>>533637704
College, especially in America, is one big circlejerk pyramid scheme.
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>>533637704
My gen x brother in law who sells cars makes about 100k/year and used to talk shit about college and say i was wasting my time. Said i wasnt as smart as I thought I was.
Now he still makes 100k at a different place with 0 benefits, has to buy insurance on the market, lives in a shitty red state still, and I make almost double what he makes in a big city, have premium healthcare, dental care, and a company car, phone, insurance, etc. I also have no debt except 60% left of my mortgage while he has maxed all his cards, can't afford his mortgage anymore, lost tens of thousands on bitcoin, and is infertile. I'm expecting my first kid in August
Anti-intellectualism is for yankee plebs who are duped easily by wealthy grifters
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>>533637704
College is a scam.
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>>533638071
You just haven't been around enough really dumb people, anon.
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>>533639331
>You know that degrees in especially high demand are pretty much free, right?
this isn't true and it makes no sense economically. if something is in high demand you charge a higher price.
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>Shortly after high school, Bell moved to Manhattan to attend New York University's Tisch School of the Arts, studying musical theater. She left about six credits shy of graduating to play a role in a Broadway musical, saying in an interview with IVillage, "You get to the point where you don't need a degree to be an actor."
Why'd you pick an image of someone who didn't get finish a degree?
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>>533637764
connection to the cc if you are a girl.
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Bro will brag about not having any college debt whilst paying off a 60k truck. If you're a young lad reading this DO NOT fucking fall for the "college is a scam" meme. Go to college. Make something of yourself. You are not going to like being a plumber.
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>>533637704
There's no point getting a higher education if you don't have powerful connections
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>>533639680
You should think before posting
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>>533637764
How would you know that?
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I think people frequently conflate real degrees with bullshit ones. Nobody talks shit on a guy going to school to be a doctor or engineer, literally nobody.

Instead you get all these people with BA's in nonsense yapping about how they're intellectuals because they used chat GPT to cheat their way through a communications course, and anyone who says "paying $100,000 to do that is dumb" is an anti-intellectual
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>>533639778
are you literally retarded?
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>>533637704
There are college courses and there are college courses.

The college course that gets you into medicine or a prestigious accountancy job is good.

The college course that gets you a low paid office job, lower paid than a brick layer, is bad.
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>>533639835
>literally nobody
This is incorrect. You haven't seen the disdain for medical professionals around here and elsewhere with similar ideological tilts?
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>>533637910
That’s what college is for everyone. The world runs on relationships and always has. Credentialism is the bill of goods that guidance counselors have been pushing for decades.
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>>533639835
You're pretty close but the idea that anybody not in uni for STEM is wasting their time is an objective lie and is also anti-intellectual.
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>>533637704
rich people get money through connections, degree or not,
they go to college for the "college experience" which is just getting drunk and sleeping around.
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>>533637764
If you have a college degree there's a high likelihood you are trainable. People who don't have degrees have a high chance of having issues with authority and thus having issues showing up to work.
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>>533639773
Nothing but complete bullshit
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>>533639879
shut the fuck up you stupid tranny faggot. gb2r
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>>533637786
Everyone who brings iq up in a geopolitical discussion is engaging in a red herring.
t. iq=148, tested by university psychology department
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>>533639850
Are you?
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>>533638844
>Willing
Kys, slave work Is a necesito not something you son"willing", you are the reason why China will win.
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>>533639501
>I make double while living in a place where the cost of everything is also double
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>>533638071
Im also in the 130s, but no matter. Someone else's kid is still going to be placed above me.
Robots now.
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>>533639884
I promise you we don't need any more philosophy majors who are only in that field because their high school and parents pressured them to get literally any degree.
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>>533639954
no, i paid attention in my economics class. what's your educational and employment background?
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>>533639741
if you go to college and dont get a job in your field of study, you have wasted your time and money
simple as
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>>533637764
Okay so what? All you need are the good connexions
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>>533639932
Yeah exactly
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>>533639884
name one useful non stem degree
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>>533637704
I started a pressure cleaning windows cleaning lawn mowing remodeling company with my dad and brother we do mostly restaurants and a few homes but i have a strong customer base as I dont charge an arm and a leg and do good quality work so they keep telling other people about me and I keep getting more work. At this point im about to have to hire a guy to keep up
This will be the first time I hire someone. How much should I start them out at ? 25 an hour for entry? Can you live of that? I want to make sure my worker is happy so they do good work.
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>>533640032
Are you implying that tuition rises and falls based on the desirability of a major within a school?
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>>533640023
>"Hmmmm today I'll go work for a bank"
>*Work my way up*
>"Hmmm I think I'd like to get promoted to district manager"
>Will not be considered unless you hold a bachelor's degree
Countless examples of this in the business world. Stop being a Fox News boomer, there is nothing wrong with getting an education.
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I'm 28 and didn't go to college
I've just neeted since high school 10+ years ago
literally never had a job or did anything
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>>533640032
LOL, it's employers demanding the degrees. The students aren't. They would prefer to get paid for easy degrees like journalism, not petrochemical engineering. When I say some degrees are in high demand, I obviously don't mean in high demand by students. Only a retard would think that.
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>>533639897
>College shows how much of a dog you are
No wonder socialists love it
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>>533640044
>>533640099
Just admit that you should have gone to college, anon. >>533640128
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>>533640099
accounting and finance
nursing
xray tech
dental hygienist
any degree as a feeder to law school
etc.
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>>533640179
Nursing? Nursing dentist? You tard nurses are useless and just collect checks
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>>533640110
read closely and with the goal of understanding. the original claim >>533639331 was
>You know that degrees in especially high demand are pretty much free, right?
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This sudden uptake in pro academia narrative means that jews are getting worried about people not paying to get indoctrinated anymore.
Degree hunting is profoundly stupid when jeets can cheat diplomas en masse. Just focus on gaining skills instead and then monetize them, they are much harder to cheat.
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>>533638465
>got bullshit degrees
Typical GED or highschool only C- student sort of mindset. Being even the most meh degree, if taken from an accredited real college, still had years of math, science, English, econ and so on as general ed. Along with taking cross classes in other major's higher level degree work.
Shit dip shits like you could never do or even hope to pass. It's why college grads are better rounded and high better critical thinking skills in general. Now sure basket weaving 101 isn't equal to bio chemical engineering but it's just comical to ignore the general Ed work etc.
You sound like one of those clueless peaked in high school now arm chair jocks. Who despite being totally mediocre even in high school talk like they could have been a D1 athlete or gone pro. You weren't even the best in Po Dunk No Where North Dakota pop 2,400 but yeah totally on par with a college athlete.. Ok... Calm down Cletus, go back to working that shovel.
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>>533640128
So you agree that they're bullshit paper requirements that don't teach anything
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>>533640231
what do you do for a living, some sort of manual labor for a wage between $18 and $24/hour?
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>>533640270
I have a BS in aerospace engineering.

How's your business classes? Have they taught "profit = revenue - expenses" yet?
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>>533640295
Nuses are pretty much a made up profession for women no matter the field I've known them my whole life. If a woman is wearing scrubs she's probably scamming welfare
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>>533640270
>Tards who go in infinite debt to earn a diploma that will never pay itself back have good critical thinking skills

kek
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>>533640172
nigger, I flunked out of college before my 30+ years as an IT professional
tough when you miss a month of a semester due to injury/surgery tho
not that one can become an IT guy these days without one
not that there were really any computer classes back when I was in college aside from doing cobol in engineering class
college was a useless groupthink experiment by and large
it was disgusting to watch
but anyway I know all kinds of people that have university degrees and do not work in their field of study
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>>533640243
Yeah but that doesn't mean that your response about supply and and demand is any less retarded. The price function is decoupled from the demand for any specific degree.
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>>533638844
>Why would you pay a tradesman or janitor a living wage?
You're a nigger. You wouldn't understand.
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>>533640179
>nursing
>xray tech
>dental hygienist
lol, lmao even
>any degree as a feeder to law school
kys, lawyers are blood sucking parasites that serve no useful purpose to society
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>>533640243
They are. They will pay for your graduate school
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>>533640288
Not at all, I had a great time and learned a lot in college. Got a great opportunity to learn from a lot of really smart people from subjects ranging from math to geology, to history and classic literature. I had to commit to my learning for 4 whole years, which I think also built up a lot of character in me.
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>>533640351
you didn't answer the question and it's obvious your age starts with a 1 or a 2, meaning you've never seen a family member spend a significant amount of time in a hospital.
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>>533640431
No you dont understand being a lawyer historically is very respected it totally wasn't filled with people who historically never knew the law and just pretended to to get paid
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>>533637704
rich kids have connections and can get a job at a hedge fund with a psychology degree while your kid gets to work at Starbucks
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The (actually rich and connected) here just pack their kids off to a Russell Group to meet other kids of that background and then either marry each other or make business or political connections. This is why they all do things like Russian Literature or Native American Art because it doesn’t matter. The class down from them do the “traditional” wagie elite subjects like medicine and law and PPE and so on to take their roles in society (they think they’re in the above group but they’re not, even when they are at the same universities)

For literally everyone else it is a scam unless you are a minority and the above two groups will hire you to do some token non job because they hate you slightly less than they hate the native lower classes
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>>533640270
>and so on as general ed.
this is a very significant problem with college
it has become high school 2
where you basically have to repeat high school to get your 4 year degree
and then you can move on and get a real college degree afterward
now pay up that 20-30k per semester
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>>533639741
If everyone goes to college and has a degree then who will do the work?
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>>533640459
No he’s right it is complete bullshit and they just wipe arses for a living, if they can be even bothered to do that. It’s for sluts
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>>533640459
Quite a few female professions that require scrubs that we mass import third world dysgenics with fake degrees are just welfare scammers, sorry it's the truth.
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>>533640438
they aren't. my undergrad was in applied math.

graduate school is only free at funded phd programs, where the school waives tuition and pays you like $12/hour to teach. the tradeoff works because the school charges undergrad students $400/credit hour.
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>>533640404
>work in their field of study
This is another weird boomer mindset that for some reason hasn't died down. College is not trade school. You're there to further your education and become a more well-rounded person. Absolutely nothing wrong with studying one thing and taking up a different field upon graduating. I know plenty of successful people who have done this.
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>>533639835
/sci/ thinks all engineers are gay
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>>533640513
I don't think that everybody should go to college but you need to have a pretty good, concrete plan in place upon graduating high school to ensure that you don't waste any time.
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>>533640442
>if you don't pay a university $3000 for an intro to geology course, you'll never be qualified to be a bank manager

Elaborate
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There are entire schools in India with the sole purpose of teaching students how to hack standardized testing and thereby elevate their academic status.

But when you have a civilizational crisis like in the West, where people don't even believe in the goals they are taught to pursue anymore, what the fuck is the point of going to college?
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>>533640608
>I'm in academis
That's the problem. One giant ponzi scheme. Should have looked for a degree that pays
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Is that true? Because at least two of the execs where I work have kids with no college degree they inserted into middle management positions.
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Rich people can afford it, no one else can.
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>>533640721
i'm not in academia. i did a masters in accounting.
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>>533640630
Electrical engineers are typically homosexual yeah
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>>533640750
Yeah I don't think it's true for anything involving business. Maybe if you wanted to make a vaccine or something
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>>533640105
When I was 16 I worked at Arby's and made $4.50 an hour. To enjoy the same purchasing power today that $4.50 made in 1993 I have to charge my customers $90. ($90 is minimum wage.) If you want to make sure your workers are happy and do good work you should start them at $100.
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>>533637704
Going to Elite Universities is the pathway to positions of power in the private sector and government. Not only do the faculty have connections, so do the students. I'm going to be going to THE elite school in an elite university so I can get internships in DC. I'm calling this elite-maxxing.
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>>533640750
Dunno if VPs at some MM family business are what he meant by "rich" m8
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>>533640817
No one is paying $200k/yr.
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>>533640615
>You're there to further your education and become a more well-rounded person.
this is the most millenial meme on /pol/ today
>there's nothing wrong with wasting years and many tens of thousands of dollars or even a hundred k these days just to find out you want to do something else
this is just fucking retarded and your mother obviously should have beaten you regularly when you were a child
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>>533640270
Didn't they teach you how to read in college lil bro?
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>>533640711
>what the fuck is the point of going to college?
to pay the college and get indoctrinated into leftist groupthink
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>>533640679
Lol... Work is overrated. Cool story tho.
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>>533640711
>what the fuck is the point of going to college?
To get you the skills to get you a good job that'll make you some good money.
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>>533640170
Would you hire someone who would sit and argue with you about the job or just do the job?
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>>533640992
>To get you the skills to get you a good job that'll make you some good money.
that is certainly the lie they sell you, yes
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>>533640969
>The socialists never came up with a reason for why you should actually want to go to college after just getting out of 13 years of indoctrination
Participation trophy for being a cuck in f my calculus teacher is to be believed. In a few years you will be able to fool people with a diploma printed off the internet
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>>533640914
Only because niggers are willing to work for less.
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>>533640472
>every profession that requires a degree is for PSYCHOTIC LAZY ASSHOLES
>btw the job i do is very based and TRADittionally REDPILLED and even CHRISTLIKE
what's the deal with people who never went to college acting like this?
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>>533640992
How's that sawdust back feeling today?
How's that new podcast or streaming thingy going?
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>>533641155
You'd be surprised how many people in modern society are scamming their employees or wouldnt have a job without the state. But they are superior to me because they have a peace of paper that says they took a course on how to track wild game
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>>533641073
Where's the lie? I cant just waltz myself into some architecture firm without being laughed out the door.

>>533641122
People are paid what they're worth.
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>>533640817
That's more then I make owning it....... I make around 95.50 an hour after putting money back into the company.also you dont need 170k a year to live...
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>>533640755
>it

"it" in this context is just "wasting time". If you are rich you can afford to pay for adult daycare for five years while earning no money and then start your carrier after that.
>>533640992
reality of situation is that school doesn't teach you pretty much everything and everything worthwhile is taught on the job itself. If you need some prerequisite knowledge you can easily and freely obtain it yourself in this day and age.
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>>533641208
Employers*
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>>533641173
>How's that sawdust back feeling today
Its alright. Need to take some painkillers before I hop on the plane to Boston tonight.
>How's that new podcast or streaming thingy going?
Dont have a podcast yet. Streams are doing great. Thanks for asking.
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>>533641241
>If you need some prerequisite knowledge you can easily and freely obtain it yourself in this day and age.
Yes, but no one believes it unless someone else says you do (usually an institution in the form of some sort of degree). Too many bullshit artists ruined it for everyone.
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>>533641212
>People are paid what they're worth.
Oh, sweet summer child...
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>>533640270
I used to think like all these chuds until I realized what college was all about. I'm in college right now and I am fully taking advantage of the opportunities. It takes a little bit of effort, but it's worth it. Currently a 4.0 GPA. Taking International studies, minor in international security, learning mandarin, double major in public policy, and I'm getting my masters in Public Policy.
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>>533641253
Zoomers yearn to start podcasts for an audience of 3
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>>533641237
>I pay myself $95 an hour
>Nobody needs to make this much
Cool minimum wage job you have there, bro.
Thank you for your service.
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>>533641320
Whats the issue now, celly?

>>533641352
>3
Jesus christmas I aint showing up unless theres 2 or 3 zeroes attached to that at the very least.
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>>533637704
>He thinks 100k of student debt is good


Whew lad..maybe you haven't been paying attention. They hire indians anyway
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>>533637704
>boomer retards still thinks a college degree guarantees a successful career.
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>>533641212
>Where's the lie? I cant just waltz myself into some architecture firm without being laughed out the door.
nor can someone with an architecture degree and no connections either.
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>>533637704
Rich people are also getting married and having 3+ children. I see them brag about their clutches all the time. They want the nuclear family and its attendant potential for generational wealth to be a luxury item. Things only rich people get to enjoy, soon meat and showers and air conditioning will be added to fhe list
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>>533641435
Yeah if you have a panic attack signing a contract after getting out of 13 years of indoctrination they obviously didn't do a good job
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>>533641345
International studies students brag about having a 4.0 lmao

I bet the co-eds are very hot though
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>>533641208
fyi having some amount of downtime at work is very normal for someone who doesn't work in a production environment. it doesn't mean they're scamming. it means they have some downtime.

if you're so smart then why don't you get this """"peace"""" of paper?
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>>533641391
Grindset algorithms and short videos make every zoomed think they'll have an audience for their content

Embarrassing. Go spend time with your family lmao
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>>533641492
No. It's all bullshit. What good is an education when Shartdeep prints his degree and Mumbai for $200 and Fortune 500 companies only hire indians.

Legit no point in going to college
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>>533641386
Ya because I own the company I get paid around 95.50 an hour.
I also go and work
I do pressure cleaning
I do window cleaning
I do most of the work
So ya I pay myself good as im not just sitting on my lazy ass telling other people to do shit.
Also did you miss the part where its my dad me and brother... all 3 of of make the same but we all do the manual labor
I was asking what I should pay someone to start in entry but im not going to pay someone $100 an hour to "learn" I'll pay like 32.50 an hour starting and go on from there but 100 your a retard
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>>533637764
Then they must be going for the connections.
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>>533639558
>You just haven't been around enough really dumb people
>said on /pol/
anon I...
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>>533641552
No I mean I've seen entire institutions that only exist because of modern state organization and social engineering where there is millions and millions of dollars of welfare fraud at singular buildings within a network because if they didn't the entire economic clade would collapse. A side effect of that is a bunch of women in scrubs getting to work their entire lives without doing anything and getting super fat off of the government paying them to exist
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>>533637764
They look for a spouse, too.
It's rough out there, and honestly, the way a low-earning autistic sort escapes the matrix of misery is a government job, which you also don't need a degree for. Work experience and some references are more important there, but your big boy Trump killed a lot of them because he had a cockney faggot in his ear telling him it was a good idea.
>>533637783
You don't know who does and doesn't have a bright mind. You just have people who are and aren't in your circle, and everyone else can eat shit.
That's why you're telling him to go to church. "Maybe you can have psychos who are on your side!"
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>>533639988
He kinda skipped that part
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>>533641477
>no connections
Well they should have made it out to the local collage pub on thirsty Thursdays.

>>533641578
>Go spend time with your family
The family on my side is dead or crazy.
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I have learned more outside of school than I ever did while paying some kiked institution
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It is one place where *some* funding is not tied to family wealth that can advance you
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>>533641798
Because you're willing to learn. Sadly no one will believe it because everyone is presumed to be a liar.
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>>533641798
I went to school to take philosophy so the state could tell me the correct way to interpret western philosophy and history
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>>533641745
Buddy here streams and dreams of podcasting to nobody instead of starting a family

Social media was a mistake
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>>533641345
this nigger is studying to be a parasite
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>>533637764
And?
Make the fucking connections, then.
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>>533641638
>I do minimum wage work
>I get paid minimum wage
>I do a very good job
I am very proud of you anon.
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>>533641798
that's true for basically everyone. doesn't render university education useless.
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>>533641878
>instead of starting a family
I'm not a multimillionaire with infinite free time.
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>>533641878
I wonder when humanity is going to just start fucking an sucking in weird communes with the government being unable to do anything
>guys please, go back into the schools
>we're growing corn you fascist
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>>533641868
Based
Too bad dropping absolute gems to the retards here doesn't pay well unless you're phoneposting from a parking lot while you should be doing what you're actually being paid to do
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>>533637704
Shit bait, but unless you need that piece of paper to be able to work, modern college is just adult daycare.
At best you become a corporate wage slave, to be replaced by AI in 10 years, at worse you just wasted your prime productive, entrepreneurship years and gathered a bunch of useless debt.
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>>533641905
you need to be rich.
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>>533641928
The sheer number of barely sentient shuffling zombies I see on a nearly daily basis leads me to believe that no it's not basically everyone
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>>533641928
Need to get a loisence for that job you want.
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>>533637764
>They might make connections but that’s about it
That's all what being successful is about. Who you know is far more important than what you know as it is "who" that makes decision to hire you or not. Without connections you are doomed to be wagecuck at mercy of HR cunts.
Even in trades connections are difference between being your own man or cucking for senior craftsman who have connections to people that give jobs out.
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>>533639979
go do the slave work then
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>>533641638
>im not going to pay someone $100 an hour to "learn" I'll pay like 32.50 an hour starting
As if pressure washing and window cleaning have a steep learning curve. Lol... You're not looking for a worker, you are looking for a slave that you can take advantage of. Quit being such a fucking jewbag and pay your worker the same minimum wage that you are paying your father and brother.

A workman is worthy of his hire.
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>>533642108
I prefer the term "advanced work permit", though it doesn't roll off the tongue as easily.
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>>533642107
In order to actually learn something you need to be able to conceptualize there's something the state isn't telling you and with the paternalistic nature of the state that's pretty hard. How one becomes a socialist while worshiping the state is odd only if you don't understand what they teach you in school is socialism.
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>>533637704
Nah, college is ground zero for retards. Send your kids there and you won't get them back, you'll get back another retard.
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>>533641914
So remodeling a whole house is minimum wage work? Can you do it? Highly doubt you can because your too retarded to know how to remove a load bearing wall without everything collapsing
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>>533642255
Your country was founded on a loisence.
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>>533642107
i think you're confused. People being stupid doesn't really indicate anything about the relative educational impact of univeristy vs. real world
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>>533642354
I will just pay mexicans 40,000 dollars to do it and do 15,000 dollars of property damage in the process and still get a sagging wall
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>>533642158
So i should pay them less since its not that hard? Thank for letting me know mr.jew
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>>533642158
Also how the fuck is 32.50 starting slave labor? Name another job pating that much to spray water onto stuff
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>>533642428
I'll do it for 30k and that shit will stay standing till the sun explodes
When you do it the right way it lasts
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>>533637704
>Rich people aren't telling kids to skip college

Of course they don't, they don't need to. Their kids don't go to college because they learn the rope of their father's business.

Duh. Imagine being filthy rich....... and wasting years of your life learning some useless skill without market value LOL!!!!!

Next thread
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>>533641155
>what's the deal with people who never went to college acting like this?
Inferiority complex.
Society made myth that university degree = smart, so not having it = dumb. Nobody wants to be called retard so they make up giga cope mental construction that higher education is useless waste of time, and prove that they are dumb, instead of doing smart thing and not give a fuck about wrong made up societal perceptions.
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>>533642404
Yeah man scrolling Facebook and Instagram and watching reels is real learning
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>>533642634
Pleblo stuck a rock under the board holding up the whole wall which is effectively the same thing, just don't hit it while out in the garden
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>>533637704
I would pay my kids to NOT go to college.
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>>533642686
Are you calling me brown? You should post your hands. This is a white man's company
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>>533642354
Anon said nothing about remodeling a whole house. Anon said he does pressure washing and window cleaning. But yes. Most people who remodel houses do so at a minimum wage (or slightly higher) level. A skilled tradesman will do a better, higher quality job and should be better compensated.

Can I remodel a whole house? Yes I can. It's not my niche, but I am pretty good at it. (I am a very good painter, plumber and electrician, for example.)

And yes. I have removed load bearing walls without anything collapsing. (Steel beams for the win!)
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A degree is worth it just to get an office job (adult daycare) where you aren't wearing yourself out

I see it as rest for the gym and my fun, free time activities. And income of course, much higher than blue collar
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>>533642854
Soft hands brother
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>>533641928
Its cost has just far exceeded its primary functions.
Like, you'll let a fucking Jeet that can't speak a lick of English pilot a 25-ton death machine for 5k and a month of classes (assuming he even does that), but I need 4 years and life-long debt to stick my hand up a horse's ass?

That's one cool thing I'm hoping Pritzker delivers on. Instead of just making the shit free, he's talking about bringing 4-year programs to the robust community college network in Illinois.
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>>533642682
no, but most people can gain information from talking to people, interacting with businesses, observing behaviors and productive functions etc.
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>>533642854
I'm saying that you don't know what you're messing with with TRVE latin american engineering. What you really need is a team of chileans and hondurans and cubans and they will used the boxes from their lunch to create lasting structures for your clients
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>>533642877
I did post about remodeling if you read my first post>>533640105
I do pressure cleaning window cleaning and remodeling
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I don't really regret going to college, gave me some life experience and something tangible I could show an employer.
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>>533637704
Can you tell me what degrees the rich people are taking?

>business
>law
>business type 2
>morelaw
>meme humanities

Yeah, their degree put them ahead of the curve, nice.
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>>533637704
I thought this was obvious. They’ll still send their kids to law/med/engineering school while telling you to be a manual labour pleb, dooming you from entering politics or any position of power.

>>533637764
That’s literally the whole point of college. It’s far more beneficial if you didn’t go to private school because it significantly boosts your network for future opportunities. The accreditation is a box ticking exercise. Most relevant skills and expertise you learn once you’ve entered the workforce
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>>533643213
That old lifehack of going to school for law, never actually practicing a second of law, and then getting picked up out of college and dropped into party headquaters
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>>533642440
No. Minimum wage is about $100 an hour. Pressure washing and window cleaning are both minimum wage work. Any non-cripple can do it. Quit being such a filthy jew and pay your workers what they're worth or keep doing the minimum wage work yourself. Whatever. But don't pretend that showing up with a pressure washer and squeegee is important, high value work.
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>>533642479
>Also how the fuck is 32.50 starting slave labor?
$32.50 is 30 cents on the dollar. You don't want a worker. You want a slave. Quit being such a filthy jew.
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>>533642917
>soft hands
>As I take a pic with a chunk of missing skin on my thumb from swinging a sledge hammer
I do use lotion on my hands as I dont want them feeling like sandpaper as its not a fun time playing with my wifes pussy.. I also dont think its a fun time for her
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>>533643008
>I did post about remodeling
My deepest apologies, anon.
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>>533640179
None of these should need a degree to do. Practical 1 year courses maybe that your employer pays for, but they should be able to be done as a traineeship straight out of high school
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>>533643293
Agian whats up with people not reading the remodeling part????? Are you fucking stupid? I ALSO REMODEL HOUSES how fucking hard is it to read
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>>533643293
this guy has slid into incoherence.
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>>533643406
>he has to use lotion to not destroy his wife by making basic contact
ohohohoho
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>>533643542
Happens when you work with your hands
They get rough and covered in calluses
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>>533643581
yes I start to worry during the winter when they start looking like roadkill
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10 years from now, we will be needing
> carpenters
> plumbers
> electricians
> farmers and gardeners
we will not be needing
> bankers and economists
> lawyers
> doctors

iykyk
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>>533643530
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I'm about to finish undergrad with a meme degree (English).

As far as I can tell the options are now:
>military officer
>teacher (u.s. or abroad)
>law school
>pivoting to something else like accelerated nursing or cpa
>fully leaning into academia memeshit via mfa program
Even without doing a real-job major like engineering, I can tell you guys on a personal level, this feels like an infinitely better position to be in than as a high school grad. Plus I had plenty of free time to swim, run, life weights, and bang brown girls. I went enlisted military straight out of high school, and I am somewhat jelly of kids who got to spend 18-22 living an idyllic campus life instead of getting harassed by fat E-6s during their formative years of early adulthood. Would pretty much recommend it to everyone. Spending your life solely in the pursuit of optimizing income/retirement is a huge mistake, you only have a limited amount of time on this planet and should aim to enjoy it.
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>>533640503
This is how it really is. There’s definitely disdain towards people studying proper subjects because the elites know they’re ‘plebs’ who are actually there to improve their station and can’t just coast by on their parents’ money. Law’s the only exception to this because it can lead to social status that isn’t just linked to your career
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>>533643691
>house price
>doesn't take mortgage rates into account
this would only be created or shared by someone with babby-tier understanding of the topic. Which makes sense, given your butchering of words and phrases
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>>533643697
Sounds like a really expensive resort full of hatable people
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Tell me a popular anti-college influencer that did NOT go to college.
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>>533643449
>Practical 1 year courses maybe that your employer pays for,
The whole point of college in America is to externalize the cost of training away from the corporation and put it in on the school, which in turn puts it on the student since they're the ones paying for all of it. If the business wanted to pay for that shit they would.

It's unimaginably fucked. The externalized training now counts for nothing so businesses have to train anyway, infinity government loans mean that the cost of college has ballooned out of control, and the student loans required make it impossible for the kids to live on the low wages the businesses are willing to pay.
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>>533637704
My kid who's a welder and fabricater isn't getting replacement by ai or jeets.
And has zero debt and two kids.
t.grandpa faggot
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>>533641056
>but sir this will just escalate tensions and possibly cause them to block a large portion of the worlds oil
>JUST BOMB THE FUCKING SCHOOL
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>1 post by this ID
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>>533637764
>They might make connections but that’s about it
That's why people go to Harvard and Yale. It's all about networking.
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>>533642914
what office job isn't going to be obsoleted by AI?
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>>533643267
Yep. That’s what the rich elite who study law go on to do
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>>533644107
the types of office jobs that require a brain and judgement and accountability. engineering, law, finance, accounting, management in general, etc.
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>>533640099
>business
You might think its stupid and common knowledge but you wouldnt believe how many no degree retards do not know how to use computers/email or professional communication
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>>533639108
well its clearly not working lmao. America is collapsing at lightspeed, and at the front of it are the financial elite and their children steering the ship at the behest of enemy jews.
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Yeah, just keep sending your kids to the debt slave retard factories.
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>>533637764
More like their parents make the connections for them, since they themselves are already connected. It's hard to make connections from zero, but easy when you're a privileged kid from a wealthy family.
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>>533643985
Have you ever run into someone who wants to argue with their manager because they think they can do better, when in fact it's a retarded idea?
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>>533637704
Reminds me of some CEO years ago who told people to stop complaining about prices because they could go buy a beater car for $1k. I said that it's highly unlikely he'd ever allow his own daughter to drive w shit box and tons of guys making $40k a year pouncee on me as if I was robbing them blind.
Some people really enjoy being fucked its practically an American tradition at this point.
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>>533637704
Rich kids dont even go to public school.
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>>533637704
College is just another summer camp to rich kids. For many it is all about keeping up appearances within the social circle. So they would force their neet kid to go to a college and pay for a degree.
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>>533637704
>your house burned down?
>why don't you have another?
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>>533639108
yes, where their kids can get fucked in the ass by upperclassmen and even further brainwashed into globohomo. why does everyone assume rich people are good to their children? it's all about grooming them to continue the satanic bloodline.
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>>533641905
Why are you spiritually jewish?
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>>533637704
I mean, they dont need to go on multi decade debt to afford it
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>>533637764
>but that’s about it
but that's literally everything it takes to get rich
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>>533637772
AI replacing most college level meme jobs
AGI sees tradesmen as only valuable members of society, propagandized them to hate the elites
Arms them, defends them against the former power structure, uses them to destroy old power structures, and build new one
Elites Pikachu face
I, for one, welcome our new quantum computing overlords
>Ave digital imperator
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>>533641706
So your counter-argument to that anon is that the millenial who went to college and got a degree, makes double the impotent gen x'er, has less in debt, pays less in taxes, and has all his benefits, car, and insurances covered is null and void because he gets to live comfortably in a big city where all the ammenities are in walking distance? On top of owning property in that city.
No wonder republicans can only attract "poorly educated" retards
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>>533637704
>Rich person advises poorfags not to waste money on caviar and expensive champagne
>But rich people do it so it must be a good idea after all
It makes sense for rich people to send they're kids to ivy leagues to network. It doesn't make sense for a poorfag to get heavily in debt for a worthless degree from a state college
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>>533643772
Mortgages have artificially inflated the price of houses. Debt is the currency of slaves. Mortgages and usury are for dumbasses and losers. Never a borrower nor debtor be.
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>>533641703
Your "big boy"? God what a fucking faggot. Slap yourself. It doesn't surprise me someone defending wasting money on college would talk the way you do.
The past decade or so has really been bad for the idea of college. It's widely known now that it's essentially a waste of time for the most part unless you desire a career that really requires it like a lawyer, doctor, engineer, etc.
Many degrees end up useless for many that get them. Of course rich people would push college for their children because they have the money to WASTE. And many rich fags, especially involved in academia, are the types that get off on being part of that stuck up world rubbing shoulders with other snobby fags that know so and so, and are esteemed important people (theyre not most times), and being part of the system of credentialism and self appointed atbiters of truth in all of society. They're the retards that believe having wealth makes them automatically so smart and then they ended up supporting getting vaxxed, "believing the science", and support all progressive causes (almost mandatory in colleges) like sheeple or better yet useful idiot lemmings. Theres a large culture of retarded rich people like this in colleges, exacerbated by commie professors that all feel since they are in these so called highly esteemed institutions that they therefore by default are correct above everyone else in their opinions about everything and should pat themselves on the back for being good little NPCs for the system. It's not just the rich that do this in college but the rich are more egrigious and are the ones that are likely to rub shoulders with other wealthy people to go on enriching themselves and shutting down anything outside this collegiate racket.
Covid really exposed low iq npcs in the similarly exposed academic institutions, entertainment industry/media. Altogether they acted like they knew better with no evidence, self fellating because "muh college" & "muh rich celebrity".



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