Is it right to make your children sign a rental agreement to live in your home past 18?
No you should kick the little brat on the street
yeah you have to get on the grid at 18get a bank accountget an ID get a passportestablish residency SOMEWHERE (utility bills/lease contract)this is a good parent. if a kid cant come up with $300.month they should be homeless for a bit to get some motivation because thats pathetic
Max Keeble
>>533943839Families lived together for centuries until boomer minds were poisoned and spread this liberal bullshit. Go off and live on your own. Keep the demand for real estate up. Our 401ks depend on it!
>>533943846>>533943839This is bullshit. If the child wants to stay at home, they should be allowed to indefinitely without paying rent, but should they have the idea of going out, then they should be allowed to. Money is not that important. It's actually not important at all. You don't need money to live, and you can grow everything you need. There are more important things than money and you are educating this child poorly by making their only support specious at best, and fundamentally putting into question their love for their child.
>>533943611those kids should remind parents of where they are going to placed in their old age if they don't eat that rental agreement and apologize
>>533943611> Kick out kid> You go in nursing home to be beaten by African migrants > Donate your estate to conservative think tank to spite aforementioned child> Kid dies broke of a fentanyl addiction Living in America
>>533944018having trouble picturing a kid that cant work up the motivation to earn 300 dollars out in the garden growing their own food
>>533944189That's not what I'm saying, obviously. If he doesn't want to come up with 300 dollars, he can move out and grow his own ingredients and cotton to make clothing. You don't need to work, you don't need money period. Money is just another good that people trade around meaninglessly. No one needs money.
>>533943966>>533944018GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE
>200 dollars rent>100 cell phone monthly>Clean up after yourselfThis is all completely reasonable, the property taxes on our house are 6,000 a year.If you want your family to be powerful and successful this is a good way to start, the house actually stays maintained instead of being seen as a money sink. Now the house the kid will inherit will be more up to date, better maintained.I actually have lived in a family house that wasn't maintained for decades and it was terrible, gusts of wind through the house during winter, roof leaks, rotting wood siding. Houses are a big responsibility and expense, they need to be taken care of and updated.
>>533944336I think the onus is on you to provide a justification for why money is so important. If you cannot justify your use of money, you are contributing to moneyjews, which is defined as anyone who uses money instead of growing their own nutrition. If they can't provide a legal justification for using money, I shouldn't have to pay rent.
>>533944413It was your fault for not maintaining the house. No one should have to move out.
>>533944315>>533944057yeah i would love to watch that reality show: 18 year old kid from the suburbs gets tired of mom and dad and steals the family tent to live off the land in a national park.im normally all for hating boomers but we're talking about 3-4 days of work per MONTH for a comfy modern lifestyle. kids that cant appreciate that level of wealth need a reality check
>>533944537>Yeah bro you should have maintained the house when you were 9 and 15 and then when you turned 18 you should have just innately maintained the house because it was something you wanted to doThis is delusional retard thinking and when you turn 18 you don't start thinking you want to paint dad's house.>No one should have to move outNobody has to, pay 300 a month. That's like 1 week of part time mcjob money.
>>533944675It's more like: 18 year old kid from the suburbs realizes the futility of hoarding and utilizing too much money and realizes the foolishness of humanity, and then forages and grows his own food in the woods or rural areas, while not needing any money at all. He lives off the grid and is the happiest man alive eventually, with a wife and children, raising them to not need money as well. It would bring a tear to my eye.
>>533943611Depends on how you raised them, and if at all.
>>533944713You are abandoning your family because you think you need money. No one 'needs' money. Money is a parasitic commodity.
>>533943611God bless my parents for not being this scummyI would rip that agreement in two
>>533943611Is that the social contract you guys keep telling me about?What kind of insufferable worthless faggot do you have to be before your parents need to be paid to even tolerate your presence? Seriously how did you get to that point in your life where your own mom and dad can't stand you?
>>533943611i would make my own contract for them to sign afterwardsthings like access to grandchildren would be charged monthly at 500-700 per month per grandchiildnot being stuck in an old folks home, charge (to be determined)there has to be an explicit understanding that the parents chose to have a kidthe kid didnt choose their parentsthat is a one way power dynamicby trying to bind a kid with a jewish contract the parent is trying to make a power play before the kid is fully cognizant of whats going on
>>533944866>He lives off the grid maybe>and is the happiest man alive improbable>with a wife and childrenHAHAHA ABSOLUTELY NOThave fun advertising your spare room on craigslist for one lucky lady ;)
>>533945332>he thinks you need money to be happyYou can live longer than anyone else without spending or earning money for years and years. Stop being a moneyjew. You don't need money, resist it. Get a farm, an outhouse, forage for food. Live comfortably with your computer and your cell phone that you built with things you mined and items you grew. You don't need industry, you don't need other companies.
>>533943611If you didn't want to pay for a kid, why did you have one?
>>533943611>LISTEN I DONT WANT TO GET KICKED OUT OF HOUSE BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND WHAT YOU DID WAS STICK A KNIFE IN OUR BACK AND KILL US
Kid can work w2 at 14. Lives all expenses paid 48 months and saves majority of money. Tell your kids early in life this is the washing machine and dryer here's how you use it, stove, scrub brush... And tell them very early on when you become a legal adult you pay here to stay just like anywhere else in the world, and you stop caretaking unless they are under the age of 10, a child. Offspring, your job is to make them independent as early as possible. They aren't your cute cuddly pets and partner replacement modules.
>>533943611It's the american way for boomers to treat their own children as burdens that they have to put up with until adulthood before throwing them into the wood chipper to raise the gdp of the nation and to be squeezed by landlords and bankers. It makes boomers giddy with glee to sacrifice their children to their jewish masters. It's like a modern day sacrifice to moloch. Boomers never held an ounce of love for the own children. They are demons who deserve to rot in nursing homes until they gracelessly expire.
Honestly nothing in that document is unreasonable.I live with my parents at 32 and I don't act like a subhuman.I would be happy to pay them 200 a month if it meant I could have the rights of a tenant (which would mean I could have girls over).
>>533943611I make my girlfriends sign one
>>533945489>Get a farmhow> and your cell phone that you built with things you minedjust bumping in case theres any 18 year olds here that think the world is like fortnite
>>533943611It is morally evil to do so.
>>533943611These threads make me realize my folks were pretty cool, if I ever needed a place to stay they’d always let me no strings attached. Then again they aren’t poorfag parents so they don’t expect me to pay for their shit.
>>533946021Trust me anon. No girl wants to watch your mom breastfeed you
>>533943611I feel like rent should be necessary, but that rent will go to a savings account under their own ownership rather than the parent. Too many adults lack good savings habits and it bites them in the ass.
>>533943611If one of your parents is on disability then this could be a required step for signing the 18 year old up as a caretaker and getting money for it. Thousands of white people are doing it here in Ohio but youtube acts like it's some revelation when they catch blacks doing it in California or wherever.
>>533946066>how get a farmYou can get a rake and a hoe right? Go find some fruit, and use the seeds to grow more fruit. Then, from those fruits, grow more fruit and so on and so on. >how build cell phoneMetal is under our feet right now. You can get a shovel anywhere.
>>533944132>Get (((reverse mortgage)))>Donate your estate to israel to spite aforementioned childftfy
>>533943611You get money or you get to make rules, not both.Just like you get money or you get to have family, not both.
>>533945489>your computer and your cell phone that you builtThat's supremely ambitious for an off-gridder
>>533944018exactly, dont raise someone and bbe angry the whole timeraise someone where every thing can be a productive lessonalso, how do those parents just yell at kids for everything they do? i dont understand it
>>533943611If your parents try this go find a legally binding rental agreement and then refuse to pay until everything around the house is fixed. As your landlord they have to.
>>533943611This is the whitest, most boomer shit I've seen. Even jews would think twice about this.
>>533945489>Live comfortably with your computer and your cell phone that you built with things you mined and items you grewGet a load of this nigga who thinks the world is like Fallout 4 where you just dump crap that you find on to a workbench and everything just comes together as long as you have a blueprint
>>533946522Truly, if I have to pay rent I expect full tenant rights
>>533944315Money is not fiat currencyMoney is gold and silverFiat is just paperNobody makes money except a mintPeople earn a living, and its usually paid for in a shit tier fiat currencyAnd no im not arguing semantics, these are the literal definitions of method of exchanges and its a common mistake because people are asleep under a hypnosis of maritime law- among other notable things
>>533946590jews Can't think once so your statement is a bold faced lie.
>>533946480Computer 'chips' are just made from rare earth metals. You can mine those as well by yourself if you know where to dig.
>>533943611>Is it right to make your children sign a rental agreement to live in your home past 18?No, obviously.
>>533943611These fucking shitbags do absolutely nothing to teach their kids how to survive and then throw shit fits that those kids aren't handing them stacks of hundreds every week the moment they turn 18. I know a guy who charges his 19 year old son $1000/mo for a fucking 6x6 room in the basement. I am pretty certain that kid is going to kill his father and step mother eventually. I just hope he does it when his step brothers are away at their father's cause those kids are all right.
>>533943611This was a bot post on r/AIO a few hours ago. You need to leave.
>>533946610>Money is gold and silverExactly, and aside from small amounts of Gold for computing components, you don't 'need' Gold or Silver. Learn some things about how items are built and data is processed.
>>533943611Just remember to hold on to your copy of the contract and throw it in their face the moment they ask for help when they're elderly.
>>533946595Obviously a workbench is a stretch if you're living off the grid. You would most likely craft your cellphone and computer on a long, flat rock that you found somewhere.
>>533943966Neolocation has been pretty standard in Europe for millennia.
Sure, it's perfectly reasonable for an adult living at home to contribute to the household and the bills, and I'd even go as far to say that bringing paper documents in to it could be a good idea. Hey, maybe the kid can use it when applying for credit somewhere, I dunno. But the clearly aggressive language and stated intent to treat the kid like a nuisance with no rights or respect afforded means that we've got a couple of dipshit parents that shouldn't be surprised when their kid never calls them and sends them to a nursing home when they get old.
>>533946483>also, how do those parents just yell at kids for everything they do? i dont understand itI'll explain.my mom>ugly retard>greedy ugly retard>mad that she had me with my dad>mad that my dad didn't have anything for her to divorce rape him for>post wall, mad that she's insufferable, neurotic, self centered, ugly retard that can't hook a bajillionaire famous guy>thinks that she could if she didn't have kids>"dates" retards who hate her kids and wants money/drugs from those retards, so hates her kids tooMy dad>fat ugly retard>fat ugly retard with a 12 year old's maturity and ODD>despondant when my wife divorced him>spends all his time at shit hole dive bars trying to con a barfly wino whore into replacing my mother>constantly fails at that and life because he's a fucking drunk>impulsively takes that out on me with rage that would be cartoonish if it weren't aimed at his own son>entirely incapable of predicting any repercussions to any of his behaviors>lived in a wet brained alcoholic's fantasy of life, constantly tripping over his own dick and confused when his face hits the floor>and taking it out on me because he can>until I beat the shit out of him, packed a bag and left>he spent the next 15 years drinking himself to death wondering when I'd come home and refusing to understand why I would nottldr: Boomers are gluttonous, greedy retards who never got beaten enough
>>533946989>But the clearly aggressive language and stated intent to treat the kid like a nuisance with no rights or respect afforded means that we've got a couple of dipshit parents that shouldn't be surprised when their kid never calls them and sends them to a nursing home when they get old.They simultaneously want him to leave, never have existed, and be rich enough to pay for them to be on an opulent vacation for the rest of their life, and give them the last 20 years of their life back. And they fucking hate him for not being able to do all of the above with a single yank on the ole bootstraps. Boomers aren't just evil, they are fucking dumber than downsie retarded.
>>533943611I pay $1500/month for a 3 bedroom home I live in myself there is no better feeling as a man than the zen of living alone
>>533947193The sheer number of boomers who were divorce raped in the 2000s is still genuinely breathtaking to me.
Gen X here, not a boomer, have a soul. Deal with my soon adult daughter is I built her a small house in my yard so she can learn to live on her own. She can live there for free as long as she likes to save up for a house. She will buy her house 50% cash and 50% on a 10 year mortgage when she's 30. Ensuring she will never be poor.IM NOT KICKING MY KID OUT BOOMER, SHES NOT PAYING OFF THE MORTGAGE ON YOUR 9th RENTAL FOR THE 16th TIME. BESIDES SHE'D GET SICK FROM MOLD SPORES YOU'VE BEEN PAINTING OVER BETWEEN TENANTS SINCE 1982
>>533947605>The sheer number of boomers who were divorce raped in the 2000s is still genuinely breathtaking to me.Yup. I never got married because I watched my mom fuck over my father and her second husband, who was an alright guy. Then, she played "perfect wife" to her third husband until they got married because she smelled money on him. And then she tossed out all her kids cause he hated us. LOL. Then, 10-15 years later when he finally inherited his parents' millions, he blew it all in a year day trading. That's what she gets for honeytrapping (the idea of my mother honeytrapping anyone makes me retch) a crypto jew.
>>533947569I pay 1200 to live in my parent’s basement. When I asked for a raise last month, even though our business is up already up 12 percent over last year, while last year was 30 percent over the previous, I was told "but you live at home". I think I’m quitting next month.
>>533947819>I was told "but you live at home". I think I’m quitting next month.Never, ever, ever tell your boss about your personal life. In fact, lie about it. I worked with a guy who always got let out of staying late cause "I have to go pick up my kids at school". So, I started saying "sorry, can't stay. I have to go pick up my kids at school" and they immediately stopped hectoring me to stay late.
>not realizing a rental agreement makes it harder to kick them out at your whim
>>533943611sounds like jewish bullshit. i help my kids out and they help me out, that's kinda the point. if you can't raise a decent kid then you failed as a parent anyway
>>533943611If it's a son yes, just think about how humiliating it is to a boomer father to have a more virile male living under the same roof.
>>533943611I'd take this deal in a heartbeat>>533943839based, this idea makes thirdsies cry
>>533943611bruh, i wish they did thisthey just kicked me out when i was 17they didn't even give me the courtesy of waiting for 18they will all rot in long term care in their old age.
that's jewish af.If I had children I'd help them with the down payment for their first home
>>533947966Not everything is about sex, anon. Sex really doesn't matter, and if you have a son they don't need to have it anyway. Besides, typically you would want to teach your children that in order to have sex, you have to make money on your own in the first place. If a man is in their prime and I am much older, yes he is more virile but that means nothing for anyone else. He doesn't magically get the ability to fuck just because he is virile, more often than not those are the men that aren't fucking.
>>533943611>Is it right to formalize contribution?Yes. This is fine if your kid doesn't lean that way automatically.Even better, it helps them evaluate the actual opportunity cost of moving out.I don't even see anything objectionable in that aside from the cell phone. Who the FUCK is paying that much?You just know that "rent" is going towards food, too.
>>533943611Only if you want your kid to abandon you in an old folks home to rot.
>>533947966I smell shit.
>>533943611as long as you pay circumcision reparations
>>533943611>Is it right to make your children sign a rental agreement to live in your home past 18?Seems like it's just an agreement to "remain employed" and "pay for your own phone that's on our plan". I've heard horror stories, but if you think this is "paying rent", then you just haven't looked at rent prices even for 1 bedroom dumps. Let me guess, if your car broke down, the parents would still be your ride into work until it got fixed? There's alot of support going on here that no landlord would ever give.
>>533943611If my parents demanded I sign a contract like that, I would move out and that would be the last time I spoke to them. The anons saying they'd be put in a nursing home aren't going far enough.
>>533943611only if the kid was a dick for 17 years
>>533948315and pay reparations for creating you in this shit world. at such a terrible time. when all signs were it was shit at the time.they owe bigger than rent can ever be.
if your family fights over money and possessions you have all already faileddon't reproduce and just let your line die out
>>533943611As an 18 year old I was already living on my own, 500 miles from my family but that was in the mid-90s, I have no idea how teens survive in current year.I have 2 boys and I expected them to pay their share of the bills when they hit working age but alas, they're off on their own now.
The purpose is to atomize people into the smallest individual units of labor that can be easily allocated, organized, and unorganized as needed. Families and communities also don’t drive consumption and production as much as the individual does, in fact they actually inhibit the cycle of production and consumption. A family needs one set of appliances, one home, and maybe one or two cars. Split the family into nicely divided slices and scatter them, and suddenly the consumption needs are quadrupled. Suddenly production and labor is quadrupled as each individual slice needs to labor and produce to support itself. Do to this to a community and you can slice it and scatter it even more.Suddenly the lives of the individual become consumed by their labor, they are reduced to the law of the jungle where such things as family, villages, or communities are absent. This makes them docile and unlikely to threaten the monolithic business cycle. That’s why the family unit and the community has been systematically dismantled, and that’s why political and social division is intentionally created. Capitalism pursues efficiency, as ruthless and irrespective of the human cost as it is, and that’s about as efficient as it can get short of giving people numbers as names, tattooing them with their work history and skills, and making them live in individual pods that are located right on the production floor.
>>533943611Oy vey you little shit, if you don't want to do your duty to help pay off your parents reverse mortgage to fund their retirement world tour then the singh family is more than willing to be ten times the family for the same price!They even say they'll manage the property for free while we're traveling and we don't even need so worry about the septic system needing replacement!(Your elite masters don't do this. The people that control the world build generational wealth by keeping the family together and supported above the goys and outsiders. Especially your daughters should be kept at home until an appropriate marriage is arranged)
>>533943611$300 a month is a fucking steal for what is essentially all inclusive living and I dare you to find a better deal out there
>>533944336Your attitude is pathological and not even slightly normal. Devotion to money above family - not a good look.Your entire generation is collectively responsible for this sort of thing, haplessly going along with jew propaganda out of pure greed and vanity.If this is your genuine attitude, then you are a traitor to this country, a traitor to the White race, and should no longer have any right to refer to yourself as an American, since all you are is a Mammon-worshipping globalist turd.Your only legacy will be, "these are the men who sold the world, these are the men who destroyed their own nation". It is entirely moral to destroy every single thing in this modern, jewified system prized by people like you; then to spit on the corpse, piss on the ashes, and to forget we ever called people like you kin or countrymen.
>>533943611Charging rent as a parent is dumb unless the son or daughter makes the income to even help with the rent. If he/she is only working min wage thats not gonna help pay a mortgage. You are better off just saving and moving out to the midwest and live in a cheap studio apt.
>>533950803This is jew/jeet thinking.Of course, once you are able to work you should help contribute to the household if needed.If it were already that desperate of a situation you probably would have already been working.Having a child focus purely on school up to graduation/adulthood is generally done with the intention of them pursuing higher education. Parents will even disallow their kids to get a job(for extra pocket money) if they feel it's too much of a distraction.
>>533943611Parents should be eligible for enslavement by the children after 18 if they haven’t been provided a life worth living by then.
If the son or daughter living at home only brings in like 2k a month income from a min wage job they should be able to live at home for free. Gas for your vehicle costs like 125-150 per month, food is 200+ dollars a month and if you eat out that can turn into 400+ dollars easily. There's car insurance, internet bills if you pay for that, cell phone bill, etc. All excluding rent. Having any disposable income leftover is sparse when you work for 12-15 dollars an hour in some states.
Like literally you might have a grand or more left after each month to put away in savings.I dont advocate going into debt but if I was in a bad financial situation living at home I'd apply for a couple credit cards and use that to relocate to a higher min wage purple state like Wisconsin or Michigan and aggressively look for temp work.
>>533943611Only white people who have been brain washed do this shit.
>>533943611I pay $96 per year for my cell phone. Yay us mobile.
And then once you get temp work, that usually turns into a regular job and then you can build up from there. Studio's and 1 bed apartments all across the midwest including Ohio are cheap as hell under 800 a month in most towns up to like 1k a month.
>>533951101spoken like a true childless virgin.part of your job as a parent is to mold these children into functioning adults. $300 a month isn't serious money but it is enough to get your kids started taking responsibility for it. Household chores are another thing that just needs to be done in addition to paying for everything in our modern world. As far as what the parent does with that $300 a month? put it in a fund to help as a down payment on a house when your kids are ready to have a household of their own. They're getting a ton of advantages here while learning about budgeting and the necessity and responsibility of maintaining employment. These are practical skills everyone should have.
You can maybe still even find places under 600 a month in some towns but thats becoming rarer. Do not spend more than a quarter of your income on rent, maybe half if you have to but anymore than that your spending too much money on rent. Live in a reasonable area, I mention Columbus Ohio because thats anytown USA, that is a nice city for a regular joe life.
>>533951566If I had to choose between slaving away working in a coastal city not having any money to show for it and owning my home outright in Columbus or Cincinnati I would rather live in Ohio.
Jewish american here. This is standard practice for us. We also have low interest contracts for paying back college tuition.My brother didn't do either since he joined the IDF and left NYC after he turned 18.
Detroit is also another example of a city that had so much industry and jobs going on that it was the second largest city in America until the 80s.
>>533951446>under 800 a month in most towns up to like 1k a month.You can find that in most cities on the coast as well. Before Baltimore went to complete shit I was paying 500 a month for rent in the city, NE Baltimore. Not bad. My rent has since gone up almost every single place I get after. Only recently has it settled at like 1500 for a year.
>>533952252For a month I mean.
>>533952252Baltimore is a shithole, id rather live in Pittsburgh if I wanted to live on the east coast. But Ohio has the best of northeast living on a cheaper budget.
>>533943611the kids should have been raised in a way that this is not necessary. if you have a 25 year old child still living at home that will not clean up after itself and has no responsibilities, you have failed in your job as a parent.
>>533951446This is not even remotely true. It's at least $1100 a month, and that's in a shitty area around niggers and assorted psychopaths. You can't even find a fucking apartment in small town Ohio. I dare you to go search online right now for apartments at $1100 monthly in small town Idaho. Nothing will come up.
>>533943611Imagine being mean to your kids when the reality is that you're gonna get old and depend on them. That's probably why so many old people are dumped in homes. Fuck you, mom and dad, this is for charging me rent LOL
>>533953228Seems a bit harsh but you must have seen it coming, people don't do that on a whim.You weren't as well mannered as you say you are. All of the kiddies here blaming boomers make me laugh, the kids today are an ungrateful bunch of shits and they expect everyone to serve them everything on a plate. They also have a complete disrespect for people who have struggled to make it.
>>533953154This is the part I don't understand; can people really not see that? If you are going to be a kike to your children then don't be surprised when they be a kike to you when you're old and frail.
>>533953710Typical anglo behavior
Unless youre still in high school and graduating that year. Absofuckinglutely, no legal adult has the right thier parents anymore. Only faggot wages disagree.
>>533943611this is stupid. but asking them to reasonably pitch in with groceries/etc is fine.
>>533943611>late fee per contract, with your own kid>reinstatement feeParents this shit need to look in the mirror before their kids wind up an hero.
>>533953802>Typical anglo behaviorElaborate?or are you one of these self-entitled Gen A faggots ?
>>533943611No.> 6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.> 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;> 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.—Mark 10:6-8You are to live with your parents until you get married, then buy your own house and start a family. There's no reason to pay rent to jews just so you can sit around smoking weed and getting drunk in a pigsty or acting like a whore without your parents scolding you.
>>533943611>>533943839Whites love fucking their own over
>>533943611>200I wish. my father charges me 700 a month.
>>533943611As long as they aren't neeting, I don't have any plans on booting my kid out the minute they turn 18. I will continue to guide them in making good decisions, and enter into adulthood and financial independence. There is obviously some limits to this, I don't want a 45 year old with no ambition just playing video games all day, but as long as they are making forward progress, such as pursuing career, saving money, etc, then I see no reason to become an obstacle to that.
>>533953934Tell him he's being a greedy Jew.
>move out at 15 because my gf is too loud while breaking my bed>,move back in at 28 My parents rock
Rental contacts are good because then you don't have to feel guilty when they are getting abused by Tyrone in the nursing home.
This is fake and gay. Everything on reddit is fake and gay. Every single popular post is fake and gay so people can sell the profile or just jerk off to getting reddit awards whatever the fuck those are
>>533944413>100 cell phone monthly>reasonablePick one.My mobile deal's €18, and I buy phones up front, none of this lease or delayed payment Jewry.Charging $100 even with America's special spicy telecom circumstances is extortionate and profiteering.
>>533953977>why have my children that I Jewed when they were growing up put me in the worst nursing home and never visit me???
>>533954093All of your comments have been about jews or kikes . . . . .change the record kid.It seemes like you are one of these freeloading brats who expect their parents to spoonfeed them into middle age.
WA state and Oregon are nice states to live in but are expensive.
>>533946590Jews would outright refuse it.They fuck each other up, they fuck each other's children up, but not their own children.Fuck, Jews pay for their kids to go to driving school, pay for the kids' weddings and birthday parties, they buy their kids cars, and they'll pay for bed and board when their kids stay in college dorms I shit you not they're paying for their kids' rent.Why do they do this? Because they understand that in this jewed up messy economy, if you want your children to succeed, you have to support them financially as much as morally.That typical Jewish family spirit is precisely the shit they destroyed in white boomers and millennials.We call it nepotism but it's really just family support.
>>533943611>adult child must maintain employment and be actively applying for fulltime jobs So, even if employed full-time, the individual must be continuously applying for jobs?>maid feeIf there isn't a maid service, this fee is likely illegal.>the adult child will complete household chores which will be split with your sisterI don't understand who *you* is. Is it the adult child's sister? Why are we changing subject case arbitrarily in a sentence?>do **their laundry**, do dishes, and clean any messes that are createdAre these dishes and messes consequent of any actions by "adult child"? As writte, it appears that "adult child" must do dishes and clean messes regardless of who created them.This contract is likely retardedly unenforceable and illegal. I'd sue whichever parent tried to force this on me and claim squatters rights while taunting them about enrolling them in nursing homes in the future.
>>533954185You don't write like an English person.
>>533943611>Generational living is a foreign concept to mutt boomersYour ancestors will mock you in the afterlife if you sign this.
>>533943839/thread
>>533943611>Rent agreement Nah>To throw them away if they don't payYea
>>533954439100% English kid . . . .. except for some Welsh down my grandmothers side(but we don't talk about that)I was born here in 1965 so I am not a poncy liberal kid with a gimme-gimme-gimme attitude. When it gets to the point of somebody doing a rental contract with their kids as in OP. .. . Then something has obviously broken down and it's usually the kids entitled attitude that's at fault.
>>533954681retard
>>533944018This is how most people should think, but boomers in particular take pride in fucking over their kids. The people who launch a successful startup/become partners at law firms in their 20s (it does happen) aren’t doing it after they’ve been thrown out at 18. Make sure they’re doing something productive at least, but ensure they have a safety net. Even knowing that someone comes from a privileged background (ie has supportive parents) is a net benefit when networking, along with the actual benefits that such a background confers. Why even have kids if you resent their existence that much?
>>533954681>. . . ..>. .. . Neither of these are valid forms of punctuation so maybe you need to back to school, kid.
>>533954770WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI want everything given to me without working or paying for it.
>>533954817They actually believe that adversity breeds character and strength.Couldn't be further from the truth.Adversity brings out strength and character that was already there, and a good parent doesn't need to make life hard for his kid to learn how strong his kid is.
>>533954953>They actually believe that adversity breeds character and strength.That's not what it is.
>>533954953>Adversity brings out strength and character that was already there,If "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" combat veterans would be the most mentally stable people in the world. Stress is only positive in the most minute doses, like exercising at a gym. Boomers boast about "struggle" and "hard work" because in their days these things were as difficult and safe to overcome as playing a video game.
>>533955231>Boomers boast about "struggle" and "hard work" because in their days these things were as difficult and safe to overcome as playing a video game.That's not true at all.
>>533943611>t. can't math the dependent write-off tax avoidance upside
>>533943611It is if you're a shabes-goy.
>>533943611It is if you're a shabes-goy.>>533954185Pro tip, you're the one who raised this "freeloading brat" to be this way in the first place. Skill issue.
>>533943611with this doc you can squat at their house for a year unpaid. if they lock you out you can sue them for false eviction.
>>533943611>i wasn't born jewish but i guess i can be a kike to my kid insteadreal good idea
>>533955451>Pro tip, you're the one who raised this "freeloading brat" to be this way in the first place. Skill issue.That's just it . . . I didn't.And neither did my parents. The kids complaining today are from the millennials.
>>533955300Actually you're right, real life was even easier than a video game, since boomers were able to navigate that but are terrible at video games.
it helps prepare you to be an adult
>>533943611I have 4 kids, and basically the purpose of my existence from now until I die is to optimize their lives so they can get married, have children, work in a career field they find fulfilling, and ease their burden around money. I absolutely WILL be helping them save money when they're young. I WILL be helping them buy homes and vehicles and I WILL support them in business endeavors. If my son comes to me with a business idea I'll help give as much advice and support as I can. I'm not talking about spoiling them but I absolutely WILL support them and will never, ever abandon them. Even if they fuck up I will do everything I can to set them back on the right track. There is simply no universe where I will treat my children like a stranger. The idea that there are a lot of people out there who do is so foreign to me. My parents helped me every step of the way as well, and I don't mean they just handed me shit for free, but for example when I was saving to buy a house they allowed my wife and I to live at their home for a year with practically zero expenses just so I could get the cash necessary for it. Then when I found a good place, they gave me $10k extra towards the down payment and my dad was there every weekend to help me fix things up. I live minutes away from them, we're talking about buying land together and each building homes on the property so we can stay close to one another. I love my parents and would do anything for them and it's reciprocal. This idea that you need to treat your own flesh and blood like shit, like you're teaching them some really stupid lesson is so retarded and self-defeating. It makes me sad to think that a lot of people have such cold impersonal relationships with their closest relatives in existence.
>>533955585Forget your stupid facebook 'evidence'.When I was young my patents used to mend my clothes, repair my bike and expect us siblings to clean the house, do the dishes, helping in the garden, etc. Nowadays kids spend their time in their bedrooms playing pokemon and only surface for food, then they rush back to their bedroom.Kids today expect everything to be given to them with hard work or responsibilities . . .blame the boomers . . .blah . . .blah . . blah. Kids today have NEVER learnt to stand on their own two feet and throw hissy fits when it's time to do just that. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the moaning brats that just want everything to go their way.
>>533955163Could be part of it.They didn't have all this tech in their childhood, and can interpret their kids having tech as "having it too comfortable" or "too easy".There may be some jealousy.
>>533943611Children should pursue whatever they want at their leisure.
>>533955984>can interpret their kids having tech as "having it too comfortable" or "too easy".see >>533955956>expect us siblings to clean the house, do the dishes, helping in the garden, etc.I doubt many of the entitled brats complaining in this thread actually so this.
>>533948251I don't think it matters, they'll want to stick you in there regardless.Starting with late gen millennial, zoomers and now some of Alpha are insufferable assholes. fucking sociopaths. They all secretly want to murder their parents. That's why its pointless to breed. If they don't murder you, they will murder someone else.
>>533955915That's all very well but imagine 4 kids loitering around your house demanding to be fed, given the latest iPhone 'my own space' and the new gimmic because all my friends have them, when they are of working age.Let's face it . . . .the anons complaining on this thread are just grifters who just get upset because they have to contribute.
>>533956167blame kids growing up and wanting to give their kids an easier life then they did..
>>533943611>>533943839>>533943846American urban rodent degenerate mindset lmao.Viewing your children, who are your legacy, as some kind of burden, because it's easier than accepting the ego hit of admitting that you were a shit parent. Be a fucking man and have some accountability.I will never kick my kids out or charge them rent because I love them, and since their existence was my decision, it's my responsibility to ensure they are happy and healthy, moreso than their own even.This mentality of treating your children with less compassion than your dog is retarded.
>>533946483my theory is that they were pressured into having kids by their own parents, so the millennials and zoomers that have to deal with this are unwanted children to begin with.so the millennial concept of having a family or parent is being persistently angry and resentful, which sounds awful.
>>533956458>having a family or parentor becoming a parent*
just kill your parents at that point
>>533955915I left home at 15 and nobody gave a shit. I suffered because I didn't know anything but was tough enough to survive. After getting it together I started making strides and have had several good careers, bought a couple homes over time, lost some things, gained some things and all on my own wits and will to survive. It would be nice to have someone in my corner early on but I was incorrigible and the people in my life were barely able to help themselves. Let me warn you, if any of your kids decide to do drugs even 'harmless' pot you better let them know way beforehand and early as they understand language that you will cut them off with zero support because if you don't you will be supporting a druggie that knows unconditionally you are a mark and you won't have anything left to give to help the other kids because jr bled you dry. A cautionary tale you best heed.
>>533943611I wouldn’t do it.
I live in my mom's house. She asked me for rent, so I told her if I am going to pay to live anywhere, I'll get an apartment where I don't have to live with such a despicable mother. She hasn't charged me a dime and it's been 5 years. For the record, I pay for the internet, half the electricity, and half the food. I even told her I'd pay the taxes and utilities. But I am not giving her that money. Greed gets you no money and then about $500 /mo more worth of bills, ma.
>>533956288>blame kids growing up and wanting to give their kids an easier life then they did..Funny you should say that.I went to my brothers once for dinner (I cooked)Probably because I was there - but my brother asked his zoomer son to wash the dishes, he did a terrible job with food still stuck the plate waiting to drain.My Brother started to wash them again and I said "come on bro, what would Dad do here" (he would throw them back in the sink and make us wash them again) . . . my brother said "but times have changed" . . .I didn't say anything but it's this sort of approach that has made kids too soft.
>>533956667>I told her if I am going to pay to live anywhere, I'll get an apartment where I don't have to live with such a despicable mother.> I don't have to live with such a despicable mother.What a nice chap you are.
>>533951550If you've raised your child right you shouldn't have to start charging them 300 dollars a month, or anything, at 18(or whatever the local standard of adulthood is) to teach them responsibility.If you haven't taught them that by adulthood you have failed as a parent.>Household chores are another thing that just needs to be done in addition to paying for everything in our modern worldFor family? Of course! You watch your nieces/nephews when you're able and their parents need to be somewhere/maybe just need a break. You check in on your elders. You communicate about who is doing what to manage the family sailboat for the summer. Etc.But some boomerjeetkikes apparently want to abandon the family relationship and make this a formal commercial renting arrangement(with retarded unenforceablely illegal terms).>As far as what the parent does with that $300 a month? put it in a fund to help as a down payment on a house when your kids are ready to have a household of their own.This is such a perfect example of the boomerkikejeet mindset.You're actually doing them a FAVOUR by taking their money! You know better what to do with it. To they'd just waste it on a car so they have more options for work outside of your control or invest in this silly new "Bitcoin" thing instead of ever-stable sears stocks!Some day down the line, after taking your cut and interest and the profits from investment you may share a portion as a loan for your ungrateful children to MAYBE put a down payment on your overvalued mcmansion or more likely a trailer in a park where they'll still be renting from your good friend mister shekleberg who arrange your whole revers mortgage for you and gave you the idea about unexploited family revenue!
>>533943611An american not working= less tax money for Israel
>>533943611the 2 or 3 hundred bucks is fine considering the cost of living nowadays. it's the cold, condescending contract that's the problem. if that's the case, there's already a preexisting problem with your relationship.ignoring that, ok, just give me the job in the family business that i've been apprenticing for the last few years, and i'll pay... oh what's that? there is no family business? you just shat out kids with no plan for their lives, no place in the world, and dumped them in public dayprison schools while expecting strangers to give them a job? then fuck you
>>533957230>it's the cold, condescending contract that's the problem. if that's the case, there's already a preexisting problem with your relationship.Exactly.
>>533943611Boomer die-off is coming.
>>533956248Wrong. I moved out for college and then moved for work, but if I ever needed to live with them and they demanded I sign a rental agreement like that, that would immediately sever our relationship.
>>533954953The way i say it is.. the world is full of assholes and kids should get something different when they come home, otherwise their parents are just more assholes they had to overcome.
>>533943611This is great. We should have the same sort of contract for taking care of Boomers. \>You agree to sign over all your assets>You agree not to ask me to set up your goddamned VCR every 2 weeks>You agree to die and leave me everything>You agree to understand that I never loved you because you never loved me>You agree that your entire generation sucked ass and Israeli cock and you deserve no respect from me because you whored yourself to jews and ruined the country I was supposed to inherit but now own no part of because of your stupidity.Sounds like a good idea.
>>533956248Helping your kids get their lives established doesn't necessarily entail lavishing them with gifts and cooking them meals. I think there need to be some boundaries obviously and I'm not advocating for just doing everything for my kids. I think that a bunch of steps need to occur early on for the kids to go down the wrong path. Sort of what >>533956616 is alluding to. I don't have a lot of worry that my kids will become degenerate drug using losers, but it's not outside of the realm of possibility - they fall in with the wrong crowd, make some bad decisions and before you know it you have a problem on your hands. In those cases I'm not advocating for fixing their mistakes for them, but I would say that I wouldn't ever give up on my kids and if they needed a place to stay while they worked their way back on their feet they'd always have a place to go. I don't think telling them "BUT, if you continue to not show the slightest interest in improving your life, refuse to take any initiative or get out there and work for yourself, and continue destructive behavior with zero regard for anyone, there will be a limit to this where we cannot condone what you're doing and you'd have to get out" is anywhere near the same thing as "well son, you're a good kid but you're 18 now - pay me rent like an adult or get the fuck out of my life you stupid leech!"
>>533943611No, they should do a trial by combat and let the victor keep the house, as decreed by nature. If you refuse the duel then germanic law declares you ergi and you forfeit the property.
>>533943611>adult>contract for cellphoneWhat?Huh?Why not >contract for clothes>contract for hair cuts>contract for foodetcRent (boarding) sure why include anything else? Rent btw would INCLUDE UTILITIES i.e. wifi so that would not be a separate thing.Basically Americans are fucking retarded.
>>533943611Only if you're a White American family.Shitskin foreigners can pile up 4 generations in one house to save rent.
evil jewish subversion>big tight knit families?>generational homes?>generational wealth?>fuck that you kids go into debt and give all your paycheck to the rentjew
>>533943611The maid fee is less than minimum wage and thereby creates a slave.Illegal. Arrest this woman immediately!REEEEEE
>>533943846If you are a parent don't do this. This is what my parents did to me. Spoiler alert it didn't work out.
>>533944413How about instead of 200 dollars rent, you make the son pay you in chores and DIY projects instead. Thats actually reasonable.
>>533943611They expect responsibility and respect from the child, but somehow I doubt the same is given in return. That's why this whole contract thing is dogshit. It's not how matters between family should be settled. If you want your child to pitch in you should have a talk with them, not "serve" pseudo-legal documents.
>>533943611Hasn't anyone told you.Your children are Premeditated mass murdered by the United States Government and The Jews.
>>533959350Chores don't pay for modern windows or a roof or electricity or food or a new bathroom or insulation or outlets or literally anything.You can do chores all day but it doesn't fix a roof, and roofs have a relatively short lifespan.
>>533943611do Americans really?
>>533959990>>533959350And anyways since it just seems like people make up retard shit in these threads all day, a general rule is to set aside a dollar per square foot per year because that's how much maintenance is gonna cost. So 2,200 a year for a normal house.This is before taxes. This is also assuming your family house you live in isn't an older house. This doesn't include the food the kid eats.So basically it's retarded to think that parents need to have kids, but then in perpetuity need to house them for free and also feed and clothe them forever even after they're 18, that's just intentionally suppressing the birth rate by making some 40 year old man babysit a 20 year old.No matter how hard you chore or DIY it doesn't pay for a roof or hot water tank or to fix the house's sinking foundation or anything like that, things cost money. Houses are literally the most expensive purchase / maintenance anyone will do in their life.
>>533959990Chores pay for everything but the material goods. You don't need a new bathroom/kitchen remodel every 10 years you stupid fucking boomer.
>>533960450>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You have never lived in an old house that has really needed this stuff and that's why you say it. Go ahead and pass on a 40 year old bathroom to your kid, WOW, thanks dad, I've always wanted a galvanized steel bathroom!
>>533943611Only if they have a job, and i wouldn’t frame it as rent.
>>533943611My spouse's parents bought us a house.It's on her name, and we live "rent free". We're saving over ~2000$ a month on rent that we would have had to pay, plus the house that's worth about 750k $.We're getting married later this year.Just date a girl with rich parents, you can change her too.
>>533943611All neets should pay rent. Nobody should get away with leeching.
>>533943611Only if you want to be abandoned at the hospice when you get too old to wipe your ass.
>>533960417You got scammed when you bought your house and now you're projecting. Whats intentional suppressing the birth rate is jews, kicking your son out of the house by 18, making sure your son at 18 can never afford to develop any potentially profitable hobbies or interests ect ect. >Go ahead and pass on a 40 year old bathroom to your kid, WOW, thanks dad, I've always wanted a galvanized steel bathroom!They don't give a shit. No really, what the fuck is up with boomers and remodeling their bathrooms and kitchesn with cheap gray tile every 5-10 years. Yeah gramps, that new cheap gray/black/white tiling looks so good, i'm so glad you spent 20k that instead of investing it in the markets. What a great decision. I feel like you have a used BMW to sell me for its great upsale value.
>>533960450>>533960520Really your argument is >Just make more money bro you're a parent you have to make more money broAnd it's not that simple, they can't just make more money. Houses have a fixed cost you can't work around at the end of the day. You've never worked in any of this stuff so you don't see the tens of thousands of dollars that has to go into basic maintenance of houses, and you definitely didn't grow up in an older house that needed this stuff done.Go do a chore and pay for a roof, kid.
>>533960582If you produce a neet tou should pay extra taxes
If you have kids you need to understand that it's a lifetime commitment. I have 4 beautiful daughters and they can live at home for as long as they wish. I'd even prefer if they saved up some money by living at home instead of paying rent to some leech.
>>533960633>Scammed when you bought your house200 year old farm house that was the family house, you never did any of this so you can just say retarded shit forever.>BRO the bathroom remodel though!Many of them need to be remodeled because they still have galvanized in them that needs to come out and the town / city will condemn the house if it's not done. Many of them never had fans or the fans burnt out over time and they're rotting. You've never done any house related work.>Bro the bathroomWhat about the hot water tank and the roof? You've never had to maintain any house before if you think it's cheap.
>>533960636>just make more money broNo, just don't charge rent bro. I live in a 1950's house. You're really really exaggerating the cost of maintenance acting like you have to strip the entire house clean and restart every year. Thats essentially what you're saying though. Ah yes, typical house maintenance, every 10 years everyone who owns a house replaces all their windows, insulation+drywall, repaints all the rooms, replaces their roofs, gets a outdoor paint job, fixing their plumbing replacing their HVAC and water heater, renovating the bathroom tiles, re-concreting the driveway, installing new steel support beams. You act like a house costs millions in maintenance every decade. It doesn't. Is this some kind of landlord cope?
>>533960857>1950's houseYeah you're a massive retarded nigger, that explains everything. Living in new housing stock and acting like it's old.
>>533960798Ah yes the classic American living situation. Living in a farm house older than the country itself. Very classic and normal and standard living situation of most Americans. Fuck off you fucking retard. Whats wrong with stainless steel?
>>533960857>You're really really exaggerating the cost of maintenance acting like you have to strip the entire house clean and restart every year. Thats essentially what you're saying though.I said a dollar a square foot earlier, which would be like 2,200 a year. That's a significant amount and the kid's 200 a month would cover half of it.>>533960918>Stainless steel>He doesn't know what galvanized isYou're retarded. Yup, never had to do it and that's why you think it's cheap.
>>533943611>>533944413>>533959350instead of rent, the 18-22 year old should be expected to maintain a 3.0+ GPA in their college classes (non meme degree, e.g. STEM) and the parent should be pulling strings to get them a career after collegethis is what a sane and rational world would look like. give the kid a reason to care, to put in effort, to give a shit. if their parent doesnt give a shit, why should the kid?
>>533960898>acting like its oldWhere? >1950's>new housing stockIts 2026, the house is nearly 100 years old. It has insulation problems, we just replaced the windows for the first time in the houses history. You're being a retarded nigger, the vast majority of houses in America today were likely built in the last 50 years. Newsflash boomer faggot, its not 2000 anymore.
>>5339609891950's is not old and is considered new stock.
>>533960981>Good grades instead of rentPlenty of kids don't want to and never will go to college. Yeah if your kid is going to college they don't get charged rent, but that's an entirely different situation from just some guy living for a free ride for a few decades.
>>533960976>Oooh nooo its galvanized stainless steeel. This means when I take a shower I won't get clean and I will smell like poopy.This is actually what boomers believe. You are not getting new windows, foundation work ect ect for 2k year. You're fucking deluded and out of touch.
>>533961019Its new stock if you're a boomer nigger loving faggot sure.
>>533961104>2k per yearThat's just the going rate and is 1 dollar per square foot>Le boomerThe city will literally condemn the house for having galvanized steel.>>533961131No argument presented.
>>533944413>>533944713>>533960417>Mentally ill animal lover >Randomly obsessed with house maintenance as if everything is crumbling constantly If you didn't have your house filled with nasty animals you wouldn't have this issue. Gouge out the cat's eyes.
>>533960981>instead of rent, the 18-22 year old should be expected to maintain a 3.0+ GPA in their college classesOr else what? The issue here is trying to motivate a young adult with fear of being homeless.
>>533961178>As if everything is crumbling constantlyNo, it's typically random giant bills like 10k for a roof or 3k for a water heater or something like that. That's why they made this thing that said you put away 1 dollar per square foot per year because you can be randomly hit with a 10k bill.
>>533961158>thats the going rateMy roughly 15sqft bathroom remodel cost 20k. Good luck remodeling your bathroom and fixing your foundation, replacing your roof and windows and insulation and dry wall and flooring for such low prices. Though I should warn you that even spics are asking for higher wages these days.
>>533961180if your kid doesnt want to go to college and just wants to NEET indoors all day you already fucked up as a parent forcing the kid to wageslave after you already fucked up his life is just layering more cruelty on top of cruelty
>>533961254Yeah every single time it's just zero arguments.
>>533961234I think the other person saying you are getting scammed is right. I had to get my water heater replaced two months ago for the first time since 2005 and it only cost me $680. Why the fuck are you being charged so much?
>>533961352Costs vary and the vast majority of people aren't paying 680 for a new water tank.
>>533961310You're only argument is that the child you birthed should be forced to get a wagie job interacting with niggers the moment he turns 18 so you can afford to feed your cat and replace all the shit you clearly mistreat in your house. Pro tip, you wouldn't need to fix your house up so often if you actually maintained and took care of it but as the other anon pointed out its likely you're a disgusting bum that can't even be bothered to clean the shit and piss off the floors. In which case it would make sense why you believe a house is constantly in disrepair, to the point that your adult soon doing DIY wouldn't be enough to maintain it for a quarter of the cost of sleazy spic contractors.
>>533956040>>533956248>>533956678>>533956780I was born on '59, have 2 sons and a daughter and my sons don't speak to me anymore. I worked my ass off to get where I am today. I hope those deadbeat losers kill themselves. I didn't force them to become losers, it's not my fault they have no ambition and they abused me anyway. My daughter is going to inherit my 4 properties when I die.You losers can cry about it. I love coming onto this site and seeing zoomers whine. You all seem to think you're hard done by. I bet you all abused your elderly parents, serves you lot right.
>>533961419>Your only argument is a strawman I made upNo, my argument is he should get some job to help maintain the house that will eventually be passed down to him.>Bro just maintain the houseThings cost money, you've never worked in houses so you wouldn't know. That's why they have this general rule they tell everyone of saving 1 dollar per square foot per year for maintenance and updates. That's just a general rule that literally everyone is told because randomly something that costs thousands can come along.
>>533961393Are you counting paying someone else to install it in this? I only searched for two minutes or so but even the most expensive listed water heater at my nearest hardware store is $2000, and the same model is available for $800 at a store across the street from it. I really do feel like someone is taking advantage of you.
>>533961492You must be autistic or something because you keep bringing up some nonesense jewish rule. The greatest cost of home improvement is labor. You save that if you DIY. You teach or make your son do it, now he has skills and can make money doing DIY shit instead of being stabbed by niggers working at a gas station. >>533961455Its entirely you're fault. You raised them or were absent, too busy working. congrats on pwning the chuds by giving your daughter the inherent but if you raised her like your sons she's going to lose it.
>>533943611It's pretty retarded that people treat pets better than their own offspring. Imagine kicking your dog out of your house because it was a whiny deadbeat.
I don’t charge my children (late teens to early 20s, all in paid work) to live at home because whatever I would charge them would impact them greatly and make zero difference to my living situation whatsoever>you might have to repair your roofWhat on earth kind of nonsense is this? They don’t live on the roof. Their being here doesn’t damage the roof
>>533961259So many cases of too much too late parenting. Parents don't do shit until their kid is a trainwreck of a human being, and then all of a sudden they think "tough love" is going to replace the love they never gave them. You see precursors of this when parents ignore their toddler doing bad shit and then yell at them after something breaks.
>>533956780If she wants to turn our relationship into a business transition she's despicable.
>>533961868making a mistake is fine (e.g. being a neglectful or absent parent)what is not fine is not correcting your mistaketo err is human, but to be a pig headed retard who doubles down on their retardation instead of making amends, is optional the boomer mind cannot comprehend modesty however
>>533956667I know a mother and daughter who had a similar situation. It's a symptom of a bigger problem. Currently the daughter barely speaks to the mom, and imo, it's largely the mom's fault...probably treated her daughter like a liability all her life.
>>533961967Unironically, a sincere apology from the parents would probably fix a lot of these situations. Sincere meaning that the person has seen the wrong and therefore will change. But yeah, that's not going to happen.
>>533943611Those terms are reasonable but I think most 18 year olds would seethe at their parents imposing them. I’d rather just let them stay a while free then move out. The rules will hurt your relationship.
>>533943611>Is it right tofembot "thinking"outsourcing opinions and valueskys
>>533945489This nigga out here mining
>>533943611Maybe something about saving taxes? It's the only reason i could think of that would justify this.They send 200 to your bankaccount, you give them back 200 in cash, then you make some taxfuckery and safe money? I don't know, i'm not a US tax expert, just a wild guess.
>>533947786>>533947193you guys are making me feel like i'm a good father lolthank god my social circle shows me i'm lacking
>>533961455Good on you mate, I'm laughing at these zoomers too.
>>533943611I would keep a copy, and once moved out cut all ties and if they ever msgd again a bot would auto replies with this image.
>>533963462my boomer parents have never given a shit about me desuthey don't care if i cut contactonly care about their daughter who they spent 10's of thousands on and never asked her for a penyover 20k i paid in rent to those pricks. all i got from it was permanent lung damage and them smearing my name through the mud to anyone who would listenthey're extremely narcissistic and manipulative. fucked my whole life before i was even 13. (called the cops on me for importing weed seeds - this pedophiile shitain literally had a gang member growing weed in his house 3 years ago)also saw child porn on his phone. no idea why i haven't murdered them yet. instead of aborting this narcissistic pedophile nerd, his parents gave him a fat inheritance. and what does the boom boom have to show for it? 2 sons who hate him, my autistic younger brother who also hates him but leeches off him, daughter who doesn't give a fuck about either parentand a shitty house he's destroyed trying to do the most retarded fucking renovations imaginabledead beat sadistic pill entitled narcissistic pill addict. was a gp until he got fired 3 months ago for incompetence (kill yourself james and shane, check the medical register if you think i'm making that up too) surprised it took that long. dudes a fucking retard. just an autistic retarded junkie pedo from a bygone era. if he was born today idk what he'd be, but he definitely wouldn't own several properties. he failed medical 6 times, btwwhat a fucking joke.idk if it's a boomer thing though. i think my parents are just uniquely evil. lots of boomers are fine and perfectly normal, i mean im not prejuduced. idk how that guy has a single friend, but his best friend (also a gp - smeared my medical records) is also a boomer dickhead. but my uncles are normalwho the fuck really knows. really, that pedophiles ego is the mystery of all time.
>>533963898the thing is, with some people you're just never good enoughthis 4 eyed drug addicted pedo would get in my face as a kid and tell me im not his son. tries to assert his dominance over everyone everything. when hes losing control this pedophile will resort the most disgusting tactics against his own childrenill never able to convince anyone, but he fucked with the room i was in to give me a lung disease. it was torture and i let it happen my only mistake was not cutting all contact a decade ago, but i couldn't do that even - was living out of a car and it was still non stop threatsfucking loser.. i call him mr crap car no friends. miserable drug addicted failure some of the shit he's done is unspeakable beyond imagination. people don't fucking believe me, lmao. it sounds too crazy to be true.could write 10 pages about this fucking freak.should under the fucking jail.
>>533945332I live off grid with a wife and kid.We raise chickens and poultry.
>>533945756My mom did this to me and when she was on the hospital having an allergic reaction to penicillin, I left her room and didn't call anyone.I got tough love my entire life. I was working full time at 13. It really fucked up my childhood and my future. I'm 40 now.I have a 14 yr old son. He doesn't work but he has chores he does everyday in regards to raising the birds.>>But you turned out fineI told my sister once I was depressed and she called me over to her house. Like summoned me to give me a 2 hour lecture about how if I went to therapy they will blame her and it isn't her fault. She ended the conversation by telling me I should kill myself if I'm depressed.I fantasized about killing her most my life. She fought me and told me I was a idiot when I was doing my farm stuff..she still does..she can't be wrong.
LMAO you can really spot the manchildren ITT
>>533961667He spent gorillions of dollars on replacing his ugly galvanized steel bathroom, but made sure to leave the galvanized steel pipes for that amazing lead leech water taste.
This is cunty but not a horrible deal. I could live with this.
>>533943611If you have an adult child living at home and they aren't going above and beyond this agreement by default that is a parenting failure.
>im 30>parents urged me to come back home after i was getting burnt out at my IT job and couldnt afford my coffin apartment on the wages>said they’re going to leave me the house numerous times>no matter how often i insist i help with groceries i just get given food and beer>i do cook dinners pretty often though>living literally rent free>saving more money on the dole than i did being an employim pretty good having parents who aren’t jewish golems or boomer stereotypes.
>>533959990why don't you just buy some shingles for cheap and teach your son how to fix the roof himself?>muh city regulashuns!!!no an illegal spic isn't going to build up to code eitheryou're just upset because it also exposes you as a worthless fraud that doesn't know handyman stuff yourselfyou can learn together: how to file with the city for a work permit, use the internet to learn and DIY, not hardbut no, you'd rather hire an illegal spic to do it, fuck you
>>533954817>money is not important>a person should permanently consume at other's expenseDo you still live at home? If a child has their own income and decides to still live with their parents (which is not wrong and often a good solution) it goes without saying that they chip in. If not actual rent then at least pull their own weight regarding utilities and food. That shit is expensive. That is a matter of decency and should not even have to be enforced. It goes without saying.
>>533966506if you have that setup your family is already not retarded and doesn't have boomer mentality in the first placethat's what is often called "generational wealth"the problem is when there are no jobs and the kids are looking for a safety net, and now the boomers are demanding money the kids don't haveand because the boomer is retarded and spent all the money on vacations, he's broke toohope that helps explain the situation a bit better
>>533943611This is peak boomer / jew behaviour.
>>533943611>20 years later:Why don’t my kids visit me?
>>533943611No. Maybe as a last ditch attempt to course correct their life direction if they're a total truant lazy bum, troubles with the law and they still don't listen to reason, something like that. But that's still you fucking up majorly somewhere in their upbringing, probably consistently.
>>533943611>>533943839Why are Americans such anti-family jews??
>>533943611I had to insist for 20min every month to get my mother to let me pay some of her bills when I lived with her (I was 22).She wasn't happy when I decided to move on my own, told me that I could stay as long as I want and just keep stacking my money on the side instead of renting my own place.Not saying that's healthy, I wanted my independence and as a parent she should encourage me in that direction, but her intention was good so that's fine.Throwing your kid on the streets at 18 and pushing them toward dependence forever are both bad imo.
>>533943611> doesn't include tipsshameful display, always tip your landlord
>>533943611When I was homeless due to mental illnesses my parents didn't care. It was my grandparents who saved me and let me into their home. They literally rehabilitated me and didn't ask for anything in return. My mom found out my grandparents let me move in and she FORCED my grandfather to charge me 600 in rent monthly. I was just getting back into society working a part time job making 1300 a month so basically half my income was gone. It took me almost two years to climb my way out and finally get a shitty apartment of my own. The entire time my parents lived cushy retired lives on a golf course. I'm not saying anybody owes me any help, but because my grandparents helped me I am in their debt for the rest of their lives no matter what. I could give a fuck what happens to my parents.
>>533945240Sometimes it's not hard at all. Jew-lovers are awful people or else they'd like nice people instead.
>>533968196or rather, if they chose to be nice, they couldn't be jew-lovers anymore and that's.. Who fucking cares but I suppose THEY think it would be seen as problematic or some stupid shit like that
>>533945756>They aren't your cute cuddly pets and partner replacement modules.They aren't. They're only soldiers in the coming head-on struggle against the jew. Ofc you'd want them on the street hooked on drugs.
>>533943611Why bring children to this world when you will treat them badly? You should love and support your children and feel responsible to make their life good.
>>533952996>the kids should have been raised in a way that this is not necessary"I'm a piece of shit and it's someone else's fault"
>>533943611In a healthy society and family, it would be good practice before going out on your own
>>533968819yes, it's mainly your fault, jew.
>>533967281>Why are Americans such anti-family jews??Literally because of Jewish materialist consumerism programmed into them by Jewish media.
>>533943839my mom did that when i was 18 and i havent seen or spoken to her since then. 33 now.enjoy the nursing home.
>>533959990>Chores don't pay for modern windows or a roof or electricity or food or a new bathroom or insulation or outlets or literally anything.>You can do chores all day but it doesn't fix a roof, and roofs have a relatively short lifespan.Chores aren't meant to be effective, you fucking Jew. They're meant to teach effectiveness. The indignance of people when their concept of children as commodifiable is disgusting.
>>533944457just want you out of my space, get the fuck out. wah wah useless eater alert
>>533943839this is how you become homeless. my ex got kicked out at 19 and was homeless for 7 months. it can be rough as fuck if you are suddenly in that situation with no job
>>533970800based. she doesn't deserve to have a relationship with you. maybe it would be healthier to have one but people like that are truly evil
>>533943966its just for white families jeets spics and niggers live together in houses with 30 people and see no problem they want to separate whites and destroy white families while promoting inclusion in non whties its pretty fucking obvious
>>533970800>>533971617Ungrateful little shit, you came out of HER womb
>>533943846Wtf phone costs $100/ mo?Are they upgrading every year to a gold plated pro max?Inheritance ought to automatically go to legitimate family, so property rights would exist without this “contract”That’s how developed nations do it
>>533971695have you been homeless before? if not stfu
>>533943611Any parent that treats their child like this the day they turn 18 doesn't get to bitch when their kid throws them in a nursing home the day they turn 65
Class is not embezzling money that was their rightful inheritance to deliberately trash them. That’s not tough love, either, because it lacks “love”Genuine property rights would organically inspire taking care of the house because they would notice if it gets bad. Whatever other ideas they have cannot involve violating their children, and boomer cope about this is not even rightly offered an audience.
>>533943611seems a fair agreement. though it's kinda silly as it makes the landlord liable to taxation on that revenue.
>>533943966We still have laws like a medieval law here that you can't steal from your own family.Just for this reason, cause like pre-40s it was pretty normal you had a family house where your uncle and nieces, mom and grandma lived under one roof.
>>533943611if you are 18 you should move out anyway in order to go to college and get a fucking jobshit thats said in that contract is sine qua non if you move out and live with roomates
>>533943611also there is no fucking way this counts as a valid contract in mutt land, it reads like it was typed by a retard
>>533961868Kids need love to thrive, like plants need sun and water. If they get enough, they move out without being asked. If they don't then they don't grow and the solution isn't "tough love" because that's still not actual love.
>>533943611That cellphone fee seems a bit excessive. Maybe it's just labeled wrong, it should say, cellular, Internet and cable fee.I had to pay rent.
>>533943611What the fuck is wrong with Americans?
>Hi anon i am an AI chatbot>how may i-REPRESENTATIVE
>>533943611if you feel the need to do this then you have failed them and yourself.
>>533943846what if they cant find a job
>>533974377I pay like $70 for a single line, if they're paying for a family plan that shit should be way lower. They mention a sibling meaning there should presumably be at least 4 people on it, even if they're including Internet that shit is still high. Also slapping your child with late fees is the single gayest thing I've ever seen.
>>533943839Yes, you should always antagonize and disenfranchise your children as much as possible. That's what every great civilization did, right?
>>533946854stop browsing reddit and noticing goy
>>533978535>Yes, you should always antagonize and disenfranchise your children as much as possible. That's what every great civilization did, right?Dear Johnston, Your request for eighty dollars I do not think it best to comply with now. At thevarious times when I have helped you a little you have said to me, "We can get along very well now"; butin a very short time I find you in the same difficulty again. Now, this can only happen by some defect inyour conduct. What that defect is, I think I know. You are not lazy, and still you are an idler. I doubtwhether, since I saw you, you have done a good whole day's work in any one day. You do not very muchdislike to work, and still you do not work much, merely because it does not seem to you that you couldget much for it. This habit of uselessly wasting time is the whole difficulty; it is vastly important to you,and still more so to your children, that you should break the habit. It is more important to them, becausethey have longer to live, and can keep out of an idle habit before they are in it, easier than they can get outafter they are in.You are now in need of some money; and what I propose is, that you shall go to work, "tooth andnail," for somebody who will give you money I now promise you, that for every dollar you will, between this and the first of May, get for your own labour, either in money or as your own indebtedness, I will then give you one other dollar. By this, if you hireyourself at ten dollars a month, from me you will get ten more, making twenty dollars a month for yourwork. Now, if you will do this, you will be soon out of debt, and, what is better, you will have a habit that willkeep you from getting in debt again. But, if I should now clear you out of debt, next year you would bejust as deep in as ever. -Abraham Lincoln
>>533943839this. if youre older than 21 and still live with your parents, you have failed as a human being. you are not a man and never will be one.
>>533943611>having childrenI thought we were just replacing children with immigrants.
175 years agoand here we are againsame as it ever wasthus of old, thus now
>>533943611As long as they contribute they can live with me as long as they want, im not paying for some grown loser who wants to shower once a month, eat all my food and goon to hentai all day
