don't question the authenticity of this
They left a poor nigger kid on the moon to film the lander leaving for earth.
>>533955117he was a space jamboy
>>533955010>>533955117>what are radio signals
>>533955010It was the USSR that didn't questioning at the time. It is not my place to questioning it now.
>>533955010>um actually le science of le cameras thoughbeitever blah blah blah
>>533955010You can question the authenticity all you like; so long as you're as open to hearing about the evidence of its authenticity as you are about the possibility of its fabrication.
>>533955193Who appointed Russian Jews to decide whether or not American Jews are telling the truth?
>>533955010>Lead paint drinking retards think they figured out the Great Apollo Hoax(tm).If the arch enemies of the USA, (the USSR and China), confirmed it at the time (hint, they did), you mouth breathing moon deniers and flat earhers are looking pretty sketchy.
>>533955010Who moved the camera
>>533955525>Who moved the camera
>>533955010cab someone logically explain or draw a picture of how THE HECK DID THEY CAPTURE THOSE PHOTOS FOR VIDEO MATERIAL? I mean how was it possible? they did not have wireless portable video cameras to record it and somehow send it back....
>>533955140>Astronauts preoccupied themselves with getting a good camera angle during the sensitive launch sequence Nobody thinks this or says this
>>533955683Ground control sent the signals retard
>>533955255> so long as you're as open to hearing about the evidence of its authenticitySir, I am absolutely DESPERATE.Please provide for me whatever it is that you think makes the most compelling evidence men walked on the moon.
>>533955140you fucking nigger, who was going to run the camera? earth with all the lag? go hold signs crying for more welfare.
>>533955618They used direct transmission which meant even one bump and the connection would be lost. It doesn't make any sense. Sent to Australia and then copied and sent "live" to the USA
>>533955712In the 60's? All the way to the moon? Kek, you gullible moron
>>533955578I love memes with niggers.
>>533955811They said so, i saw it on tv, other people said they saw it.Science redditors are gullible
>>533955618>they did not have wireless portable video cameras to record it and somehow send it back....Mate they had that tech in the 1950's, orthicon/vacuum tube cameras, the tech only improved in the 60's."Live" TV was already a thing back in the 60's, no film required, just raw electrical signals sent via cable, microwaves or satellite.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_camera_tubeThe moon landing is all very plausible with the tech of the time, if they actually pulled it off, who knows, but if they didn't i'd have expected foreign governments and intelligence agencies to jump on them to discredit it given how much of geopolitical weapon it was.Safe bet intelligence agencies have latched onto it now to discredit the US though because I see the most midwit takes imaginable constantly that seem oblivious to what tech we had at the time. The 50's and 60's basically had everything we had today already, it was just huge, cumbersome, not widespread and all we've really done since is refine it, shrink it and destroy society with it.We've spent a solid half a century stagnating technologically which seems to warp peoples perspective of tech in the past.
>>533957717yet who panned the camera up when they lifted off? the entire thing was done by kubrick.
>>533955010its been fact checked by the bharat space force
>>533957871It could've been done automatically, you can see that shit isn't in frame. Just press a button and account for delay. Really not that fucking hard to imagine.
>>533957871>yet who panned the camera up when they lifted off?Cunt kids with lego could build something that would do that, literally all you need is a stand with something to actuate and lift the camera a set amount at a given time, the romans could have built something to do it. Literally all you need to know is how fast the lander would launch, which is basic math relative to putting something into space, and a means to trigger the camera stand to tilt up when you launch with a simple radio transmission, or fuck a long string would do it.It's probably the simplest aspect of the entire moon landing.
ok i dont
>>533955683>why would humans try to do a good job of documenting a historical eventSo you see how easy it is? You have no profile. No avatar. Nothing describing or revealing your physical appearance. But in only a few short words, you've signaled to everyone here that your skin is brown.
>>533955525>>533955578I mean you could google it.
>>533955010
Ah, this thread again with the same exact text, same exact memeflag, same exact jeet virgin posting.
>>533955827all couple seconds of lag, nice one retard
>>533957717the landing sites and gear have been filmed by lunar orbiters
>>533959335ESA annouced they would use the VLT-I too look at the landing sites. What followed was deafening silence...
>>533955010yaaay humanswe did it
>>533959405>angular resolution capable of distinguishing headlights of a car parked on the moon
>>533955010>that's fake>i can tell>no, I am not an expert on zero gravity, thermodynamics, propulsion, and space travel>it just feels fake to me, mmmkay?
>>533959445exactly
>>533959223Kek. At least they knew how to shitpost.
>>533959445here's what forensic statement analyst Peter Hyatt said after analyzing one of Neil Armstrong's interviewsand here's the analysis, starts at about 4 minuteshttps://odysee.com/Analysing-The-Astronauts-Part-1:c
>>533958605>lost all the records of it because they just let all of it rot in a random warehouse, till somebody threw them out.
>>533959511that piece did not come from nasa but some private collector who got swindled or tried to swindle the museum
>>533956183they had (still have) some pretty big antennas
reminder that no human has beaten the altitude reached by the first animal in space and the soviets lied about the cause of death for about 50 years
>>533959405hilarious actually
>>533955010They would require around 4,000 lb (1814kg) of fuel and roughly 4,000 pounds of thrust which would leave a massive blast crater on the moon. There's no flames there's just magic sparkles.
>>533959634artemis ii just went further in space than anyone has beforejust pack your flerf memes and go back to /bant/
>>533959634but that's wrong, even if you're talking specifically about Earth orbit and not TLI
>>533959677That's just to get into space. To get back home they would need fuel as well
>>533959696That's been debunked by literally everybody on TikTok
>>533959445can you absolute genious explain how cameras on Earth dont work below -40C but work in space where its -133C ? NASA fags should have started camera business lmao
>>533955010You can question the moon landing, you just look retarded. Unlike with the holohoax, all the infrastructure and documentation for the Apollo program exists.
>>533959696here's how easy it is to fake the artemis missionsoviets did it in 1968
>>533955010There are already two moon bases built in the 80 - 90s tyco and europa, both on the dark side of the moon.I worked on both projects and lived there for over 20 years. Tyco 3000 people mostly scientists and military, highly classified spacecraft , europa mostly mining.
>>533959711not even the recent polaris dawn mission went higher than Laika, and that's the furthest man has beenand polaris dawn was just a copy of the gemini 11 mission
>>533955010I won't question it, because it happened. You moon hoax believers are exhausting and insufferable. You along with flat earthers. How does it feel to see other conspiracy theories proven right while yours keeps getting proven wrong. You should all get punched in the face like Buzz Aldrin did to that Bart Sibel faggot, who by the way is still an idiot preaching this shit to this day, except now he's a balding fat fuck.Inb4 I see all the trite bullshit moon hoax believers keep spouting in these threads all the time:>where da stars???What is exposure you dumb fuck?>who stayed behind to control the camera LOLIt was timed and controlled by someone on earth, which would be obvious if you thought about it for longer than 2 seconds>it looks fake just cuz. Aluminum foil school project LOLJust look through the thousands of design blueprints or stfuMaybe most moon hoaxers are just trolling, but it's more likely they're just retards who actually happen to be more retarded than the sheeple they ridicule. This is the most pointless fucking thing to even fake, and why would they fake 6 landings and not like 1 or 2?
>>533959753kek!
>>533959793>w-we c-cant simply go to the M-moooon because we lost the technology ! >we will be trying to "get back" to Moon because its, its important !which one is it
>>533959677>>533959722youre both retards.#1 less gravity on moon means less weight required to "thrust"#2 there no drag in space, very little fuel required once exiting the gravitational pull of host.
>>533955193The USSR did, intact they called it fake. Where does this lie you are posting even stem from? The USSR was laughing at us.
geiger counter chart from explorer 1, it was completely jammed because the radiation was so intensewhat von braun had to say about this unexpected discoveryhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVgCO8mRJoand apollo astronaut alan beanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfsHYg7Yoo
>>533959848astronomy live tracked the entire flight and amateur radio autists catched their commsyou lost tranny, back to derpcord
>>533959677>They would require around 4,000 lb (1814kg) of fuel>and roughly 4,000 pounds of thrust>which would leave a massive blast crater on the moon>I just know>mmmkay?
>>533955010you can question it but when your questions get reasonable answers you can't reasonably debunk you need to shut the fuck up, that's the problem, you're retarded.every "proof" the moonlanding never happened can be debunked with a few minutes of looking it up.an intelligent person can spend a day trying to figure out if the moon landing actually happened. a person of average intellect could spend a week.but you're a retard, or intellectually lazy if i'm being generous.
>>533959335Do u have the footage?
>>533959902>This is the most pointless fucking thing to even fakeThis is our greatest achievement since we lost war in Vietnam !noooooooo dont question it !we went up there to play golf ! What ? You cant go up there to play golf its complicated !!
>>533959977that's exactly what they did with zond-5 it's that easy to fake, even NASA fell for it
>>533959602We can't even get a wifi mesh system that doesn't need to have a AP reset every day due to firmware problems.You think we landed a tin foil craft on the moon and then caught it on the way around
>>533959677Ascent stage fuel mass was approximately 5,500lbs of aerozine 50 and dinitrogen tetroxide which burns with a transparent flame.>>533959722The ascent stage only needs to get back into lunar orbit. After docking with the command service module it is jettisoned. Only the CSM needs to return to Earth, which is relatively easy.>>533959887Artemis 2 just recently completed a high Earth orbit with an apogee of about 71,000km before performing translunar injection.
>>533959995this is a bot thread with a designated flerf to go through his script which is spamming retarded faceberg memes
>>533960063>Artemis 2see>>533959848
>>533960011
>>533960044i shit you not in one of Kubricks episodes astroturd drove moon buggy and directed with his hand 10 inch radio antena to radio talk to Houston, Texas in live comm with president in office where he picked up a phone and asked how is it up there Tv was black and white then with dial up phones but they had Zoom calls from space
>>533960091>everything i don't like is fakeYou're just jealous that Poland cannot into space
moon landing believers would still think this is a picture of proxima centauri if the scientist hadn't admitted it was a slice of chorizo
>>533959405>ESA annouced they would use the VLT-I too look at the landing sites. What followed was deafening silence... VLT-I doesn't have the resolution to show anything meaningful on the moon mate, do the fucking math, or you know, look at the pics it takes of the moon.The moon is like 384,000 km/238,000 miles away, with a resolution of 0.07 arcseconds it can only see things bigger than about 130 meters across, no small details whatsoever.Now americans are fat and thus their cars are huge, their houses are huge, their national debt is huge, so it's safe to assume their moon landers and other assorted space toys are also presumably fucking huge as well, but they're not battleship huge and fuck even a battleship would be hard to see on the moon from earth with the VLT-I.
>>533960180nice non-argument
>>533960180that or glowie poisoning the well or a kike seething about white nazi achievements
>>533959995>proof something didn’t happenThat’s not how things work, anon.Why don’t you share what you find to be the most compelling evidence man walked on the moon?
>>533959677There is no flame because there is no air, shithead.
:>>533959924Those are different and unrelated points. The Saturn V was a marvel of national socialist engineering, but it can't bring enough payload to the moon for a sustainable outpost. (Neither can SLS, which is just a pork barreling operation). We didn't lose the technology, it just doesn't do what we need. To actually do anything useful on the moon we need the 100+ton cargo capacity of Starship, which is the new technology we don't have yet. The neat part here is that it's fully private-and only costs 1/400th of the useless government rocket.
>>533960208in the interferometer setup it has an angular resoution of 1 milliarc second which is enough to distinguish headlights of a car parked on the moon. they said so themselves>>533959438
>>533959775>cameras on Earth dont work below -40C>and there is no such thing as live video from places like Antarctica, Siberia, or Manitoba>i just know>mmmkay?Dump your potato phone, Vasilije, and get a better one. Also, get a better education.
>>533960257>this thing that doesn’t exist but surely will is both cheaper and betterAnon, I can’t believe you need this explained to you, but:>you don’t know it will exist>you don’t know it’s final usefulness>you don’t know it’s final cost>you are being stupid over vaporware
>>533960208noooo but you see they planned a mission to bring and drop a mirror and now you point your cat laser at the Moon and it reflects back on our screen and we show it to you in NASA museum ! Trust us its real !What, we planned for lasers and mirror back in 70s ? Y-yes .. yes we did ! updooot ! Science ! You like science ?
>>533959223that was one rock out of thousands, and that was not an official nasa moon rock either. 100 countries were gifted actual official nasa moon rocks. >>533959246only the tapes for apollo 11 were shamefully taped over so that doesnt debunk the other moon landings>>533959677the sparkles were moon dust getting kicked up and reflecting the sun. the fuel for the engine was the kind that didnt leave flames, a fraction of earths gravity on the moon>>533959969there are parts of the inner van allen belt you dont want to go through but those parts can be avoided. the outer belt is weaker and can be passed through quickly>>533960247>Almost 16,000 images scanned at 1800 DPIhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/>Dozens of hours of videohttps://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a11/video11.htmlhttps://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a12/video12.htmlhttps://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a14/video14.htmlhttps://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a15/video15.htmlhttps://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a16/video16.htmlhttps://www.nasa.gov/history/alsj/a17/video17.html>Hundreds of pounds of moon rockshttps://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/samples/lemme guess its all cgi, even though all your "proof" its fake can be easily debunked
>>533960337awww look at the retard trying so hardadorable
>>533959775vaccum is an insulator, the problem is overheating not freezing FUCKING RETARDwait.. no... you're a paid shill doing a well poisoning. you want me to call you a retard
>>533960335It's a private operation so I don't lose anything if it doesn't work out. I may as well enjoy the show.
>>533960257>o actually do anything useful on the moon we need the 100+ton cargo capacity of Starshipbut NASA fags went dosens of times up there bringing entire vehicle with golf clubs up there !They should have landed 1000s of times on Moon by now but in their words allas, 5mb RAM technology is lost lmao
>>533960389>there are parts of the inner van allen belt you dont want to go through but those parts can be avoidedapollo 14 went straight through according to its trajectoryin none of the communications of the apollo missions do they discuss avoiding or passing the van allen radiation belt
dave mckeegan has a great series debunking all this nonsensehttps://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkH0H-5fXy4yNGKAxA3qLSalQUtA0otME&si=6MYyKX5YzD3UDVen
>>533960435>vaccum is an insulator, the problem is overheating not freezing lmaoproblem is actualy mechanical parts that expand and contract inside of camera rendering it useless, even if todays plastic materials existed back then its literally impossible for it to work in space Porn camera man must have been carrying water cooled PC case up there to film it all
>>533960282>in the interferometer setup it has an angular resoution of 1 milliarc second which is enough to distinguish headlights of a car parked on the moon. they said so themselvesDefine "distinguish" mate.I can "distinguish" a cunt who's lit a fire in a field 4km away at night, I can "distinguish" a plane 20km away with strobing lights, if i'm lucky I can even see that i've left my headlights on in the driveway, but I sure as fuck can't see the fact the cunt in the field is dancing naked arond a bonfire and sacrificing kids to moloch or the identity of the pilot who's flying the plane to epstein's island."Distinguish" is not the same as "resolution", it's a fucking meaningless word, do the math as to what it can actually see and the images it can produce. It simply can't see things in a resolution required to see much of anything on the surface of the moon, just a very general, very low resolution image.You're either actually retarded or doing a fine job of pretending for the sake of shitting up discussion, presumably one of the many scripts glowniggers use to intentionally shit this place up.
>>533960477that's fucking wrong>>Fig. 4: This figure shows only the final leg of the path through the belts. Red marks indicate the time in 10-minute intervals of the Apollo 11 flight. The first red dot near Earth is the point of TLI. Photo: Apollo 11’s Translunar Trajectory
the apollo capsule had window panes made of aluminosilicateliteral gaping holes in terms of shielding
>>533959940>>533960063I bet you retards really believe that too
>>533960610>define "distinguish"they would be able to tell one headlight apart from the other
>>533960635that's 11 not 14
>>533959940I already did the calculations for the consideration of it being on the moon you moron.
>>533960456>They should have landed 1000s of times on Moon by nowThose rockets are expensive, we had to pay for niggers instead. Please understand.
>>533960635wait my bad thats apollo 11 and he said 14>>533960477apologies you're right. apollo 14 went right through the worst part of the van allen belt. they recieved twice the radiation dose of other apollo missions but still less than lethal because of how quick they moved through the belts. why would they discuss it they already committed to going through it, theres no turning back
>>533960575yes plastic existed back then lolsee, i don't believe you can possibly be this retarded. you're well poisoning like this meme says >>533960435
>>533955010I don't
>>533960690>they would be able to tell one headlight apart from the otherAnd? You, as worthy of your toilet cleaner status as you are, and assuming your eyes aren't completely fucked, could distinguish between a green and red light from 40km away on a plane at night, but you couldn't read the markings on the plane.The entire lunar landing sight on the moon would literally be around 1/4 of a pixel on the VLT-I.
>>533960921they made a bold public announcment and then didn't follow upthey showed nothing, not even a pixel
>>533960811i would bet you 1 re*dit gold star that camera these lying faggots brought to the Moooooon, which is in museum now, wouldnt work in fraction of conditions they supposedly were in when they landed thereNot only that, but their shitty little aluminium foil space craft and anything from radio to their rocket engine on it wouldnt work in real time space conditions except in Kubricks studiobut you do you fa m
Fucking christ I can't wait until we have streamers in orbit recording live in 4k and taking requests to perform any experiment on camera people can think of to test them so this crap can be banished
mouth breathing moon landing believers will be the end of mankindthey can lie to you about anything
They did this before Pong was even invented... Now the new 'Moon mission' had a shot of the moon 'on their way' and instead of the Moon actually getting bigger as they got 'closer' the same shot of the moon was just enlarged to make it look closer and it was quite apparent because it got much blurrier after they enlarged it. Basically they never got out of near Earth orbit as usual. "we still have to figure out how to get past the Van Allen radiation belt" Didn't you figure that out in like 1967? "We destroyed the technology" You destroyed tech that tax payers paid like 20 billion dollars a year for?
>>533961719wronghttps://youtu.be/izv9H75tAqQ?is=I2TfSO6gXq3yGrI-
>>533962556>tracking an object means it's mannedcan't fix stupid
>>533955010yes this is impossibly. no other country has managed a moon landing. how? because the united states made this in a film studio. white people are liars.
>>533963098>white people are liars.and there we have itdenying the moonlandings is browncoded
>>533960389>that was not an official nasa moon rock either.it was gifted during the official goodwill tour
>>533955010ok/thread
>>533955193Iran says the US are demon worshippers, does that change anything even if true?
>>533963349Using the word browncoded is jewcoded
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It's the fakest hollywood shit ever. Only the most NPC redditor still believes.it was real
>>533963873you can barely type bro, stay on topics more up to your speed eh
>>533964032You sound vaccinated.
>>533964134wrongagain :D
>>5339562104 U
>>533957978How more solid proof do we need huh ?
>>533964345the videos and photos from artemis ii crew were pretty cool
>>533964379Is Bhutan comprised only of population>1 you ?
>>533957717> The moon landing is all very plausible with the tech of the time.
>>533964432No it was an April fool jokes, an ""Orion"" reptile bullshit
>>533955010>don't question the authenticity of thisOk, i won't. The moonlanding happened. Actually.
>>533955010Okay? I don't; what seems fake about it?
>>533964605pretty elaborate april fools joke to send a crew deeper into space than anyone has been before
>>533959335No one cares of what's being filmed. Retard. Holy shit how dark are you ? Are you... A nigger with a Sweden flag ? Oh the abomination
>>533959677The white race achievements ! Ohhhh
>>533960389> No no, it’s all true.> just go this (dot)gov website to look up the facts.> ugh, no, the government would never lie to us, why would they do that hahahaha> please go to work now
>>533964763i’m sorry but you’re simply too retarded for these topicswe can still use you against kikes, be antisemitic and spread it as far as you can
>>533964754Not elaborate enough to trick me. But it's sad to witness all this fake crap
>>533964919nasa are scientists, engineers etc. not politicians
>>533964992you’re getting tricked by 40 iq mouthbreathing retards online
>>533965017>the simulations were so real that no controller could discern the difference between the training and the real missiononly a handful of people have to know about the hoax, everyone else is just doing their robotic job
>>533964939You're not sorry you're tired
>>533965175tired of kikes yes
>>533965017Nasa agents are opportunisc worms not seeing the picture
>>533965239what picture?
>>533965259The grand scheme of things. The big picture. The picture where you realize how the reptiles stuffed your mind with firemen and astronauts
>>533965214not tired enough it seems
>another silverstein connected to a hoax
>>533955010>don't question the authenticity of thisGo fuck yourself envious shitskin spamer
Russian propagandists were pushing stuff like this when they target literal moutbreathing migatards.
gus grissiom who was supposed to be the first man on the moon was so sceptical of the mission that he hung a lemon on the capsulehe and his crew were later cooked alive inside
Reminder that landing on the moon is one of the greatest achievements of WHITE civilization and anyone who doubts it is a jealous or stupid brownoid.
>>533965347good luck with that!
buzz aldrin tells an 8yo girl they didn't go to the moonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4Pa2CwtSo
>>533965616this
>>533955010Was Venus landing fake or real?
legendary clip of buzz aldrin punching moon denier in the face https://youtu.be/OROlF8zB9z0?is=62b4IP2bln9xDEbn
>>533965853>>533965616violence and cope is all you gotit's quite pathetic for the greatest achievement of mankind>fake as the viking mission
>>533963858yes, the fuck is wrong with you? Imagine listening to some retard with a microphone over literally thousands of experts and scientists who are somehow part of a worldwide hoax for almost a century now to...what, lie about the earth being round because....you are beyond retarded
>>533965853as you can see, he never recovered lol
>>533964518when you put it that way, ya, kinda
>>533965923it’s baffling how retarded flerfs and they hit a new low every single day kek
>>533965900I'm sorry that your people weren't smart enough to put a man in space. If you stop raping goats I'm sure you might be able to do it someday.>>533965853The fact that he uploaded this to his channel thinking it made him look good is hilarious. No wonder he turned the comments off lol.
>>533960130for those who missed it, here are the landing sites and gearcase closed
>>533966070bart is like a toddler
>>533955010ive played ksp, can confirm this is accurate
>>533966070come back when you have actual arguments, poor deceived childNASA built a sophisticaed multi-million dollar simulator to train for the missionthis simulator was also destroyed afterwardsimagine if moon landing enthusiasts or future astronauts could train on the same machine as the legends of old
>>533966127He's not, he's actually a pretty good grifter. He's exchanged his dignity for a few shekels. 99.99% of the world sees him as a toddler, but the remaining .01% see him as a hero. I guess that's acceptable to him.>>533966148The LEM is 50 year old technology. Why would they train on 50 year old technology when modern technology is superior? You know the LEM had less computing power than a modern graphing calculator, right?
myth busters did a show "debunking" moon hoax claimsthey replicated the jump but slowed it down at a wrong rate so it wouldn't line up and thus debunked the claimturns out when you slow it down at the correct rate it lines up perfectly
>>533966402>Whyi would pay to ride that thing
>>533965923Schizos think quantity makes up for quality. That is why they always post hundreds of links and endless walls of text.
this video used to be posted in every moon hoax thread. it's a filmmaker claiming it was impossible to fake it with the technology they had available at the timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cshowever, based autist jarrah white debunked his claimshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3zhZqiSe5cwhich triggered a video response by the film maker in which he recanted from his original claim that it was impossible to fake and added some straw men and shifted goal posts in order to limit the damagehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TelJ75pzP4which jarrah destroyed once againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE6OIPlQ3-8
>>533966427https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo8TaPVsn9Y>>533966454The LEM training craft was extremely dangerous and difficult to control, there's no way they would take anyone on a ride.>>533966498>No, I won't read your paragraph>First, you must watch 150 hours of schizobabble. Only then will I engage with you
>>533966569i'm not talking about the LEMi'm talking about the simulator
>>533955010You lost the space race, soviet tranny.
>>533955010>Buzz Aldrin's mother's maiden name was "Moon">she committed suicide a year before he went to the Moon
>>533966569
>>533966569It's strange how schizos think anyone would have the time or desire to watch countless hours of videos of nonsensical rambling. They must not have jobs or any kind of life.
>>533963858A gorillian ahitty arguments do not add up to one good argumentYou can't stand behind one single point, because it would get instantly debunkedWhen a single argument does get debunked, you just jump to a new one on your list
>>533963496nope, personal gift from an ambassador
>>533963858Holyshit no one is watching that believe me
>>533966674>The grifter places the feather in the position in which it will fall the fastest>The hammer still visibly hits the ground firstlol>>533966675This is their life. There's no amount or type of evidence that will change their minds, because schizo conspiracy theories are part of their identity; it's almost to the point of being a religion. They can't be wrong, otherwise all that time was a total waste. My life and identity are wrapped up in my passions and hobbies: music, nature, family, etc. These people's whole identity is arguing about the shape of the planet online, and listening with rapt attention to schizophrenics and grifters. Instead of becoming an expert in something that matters, they become experts in this. It's sad.
>>533963858here's some proof its round. saves anyone from watching thousands of hours of youtube videos
>>533963858this debunks all your arguments involving refraction and how cameras work
>>533966999keep watching and he drops the feather sideways
>>533963858and this covers debunking the rest of the flat earth arguments not covered by my previous 2 posts >>533967008>>533967038
>>533966999most of them are paid shills doing a well poisoning. thats how they post every hour of every day for years the same memes and scripted arguments every time see >>533960435>>533960435they actually want you to believe they're real, they want you to call them retards.some of them are real but lets face it thats a special kind of retard. most of them are paid to be professional retards for a well poisoning psyop
>>533967169nice baseless claim there, schizo
freemasons calimed masonic territorial jurisdiction on the moonwhich is illegal due to the outer space treaty of 1967lack of legal action only proves it was merely symbolic and they never went there
>>533955496That's explain why usa founded both Russia and China.
My favorite film directed by Stanley Kubrick
apollo astronaut shepard shot two golf balls with an improvised golf clubpic related is a masonic emblem (two balls and a cane => two ball cane => tubalcain is the password of a master mason
>Hey flat earth, how is your "science" going?>freemasons calimed masonic territorial jurisdiction on the moon">>533967169I think some of them are, but most? I don't know. I think a lot of people come here, learn that they've been lied to about some things, but then assume they're being lied to about everything because they're not smart enough to hold a nuanced view of reality. For sure, there are many feds and paid shills here, but I think the sad truth is that idiots outnumber them.
anyways i'm outgetting some sunlightif you read all my posts and still believe man walked on the moon you're a lost cause
>>533967698i'm not a flat earther
>>533960389Instead of gish gallop, why don’t we discuss one thing at a time.What do you find most compelling? The photos, the videos, or the moon rocks.It would be nice if you could expand on why they are compelling evidence to you.
>>533967698>I usually post on /sci/ and /mlp/What's my IQ?
>>533966427that Myth Busters episode unironically made me believe the moon landing was a hoax. They were so unconvincing, blatant liars, and honestly the whole "we bounced a lazer off the moon see we really left a reflector there" when the moon has high reflectivity and there's 0 percent chance they could accurately hit the reflector from Earth.
>>533967767there is evidence it happened, all the evidence you could possibly expect or want. no additional evidence would even be physically possible. there is dozens of hours of video and over 16,000 images all publicly available. hundreds of pounds of moon rocks sent to over a hundred countries. what more evidence do you want? what more evidence is possible? what evidence would be sufficient for you?equally compelling is that i can debunk any "proof" it never happened with a few minutes of looking into it. all the possible evidence and no plausible debunking. so there you go, looks like it happened.
>>533960044>We can't even get a wifi mesh system that doesn't need to have a AP reset every day due to firmware problems.This nigger is actually using the stock gook firmware on his wireless network lmao
>>533967937also thousands of eyewitnesses as gigantic fucking expensive rockets were blasted into the sky. at that point might as well do it for real you already paid for it
>>533967937>there is evidence it happenedyeah and billions of dollars spent, when it would have been easier to fake on a movie set. and yet it wouldn't matter at all because people can't discern truth from lies
>>533960021It would probably cost more to fake, than actually do it.
>>533967996>gigantic fucking expensive rockets were blasted into the skyNo no no that was heckin project blue beans don't you know? Stop sea lioning the poor reddit atheist, he's going to have a fit.
>>533955010Get new material. You're like a retarded child stuck in a time loop. How does anyone feel good discussing the same exact lame ass bullshit every day? Talk about being a small mind.
>>533968023>It would probably cost more to fake, than actually do it.lmao
>>533967937Is this a bot? I just asked you which of the things you wanted to talk about, and you listed all three again.Why is this difficult for you? I just want you to pick the most compelling evidence from your own choices to discuss.
>>533968199He's a leaf who does this every thread
>>533968199>Is this a bot?nice adhom mason.
>>533968199>why aren't you letting me reframe this debate in a direction that suits megrow up. i'm not here to be lured into your pilpul
>previous attempts in the moon landing included a rocket blowing up on the launch pad>miraculously the attempts after this were 100% successful and totally not done on a set
>>533968010How come no one has blown the whistle and brought forward evidence it was done inside a studio? Why has not a single person come forward and said, I was part of the movie set team that faked the moon landing?
>>533968308>rocket blowing up on the launch padWhich one was that kike?
>>533967803I'm tempted to say they cancel each other out but maybe you're single-handedly keeping /mlp/s IQ above retard level.>>533967767For me:>The Soviets tracked Apollo 11 to the moon. They had no incentive to lie about it and every incentive to blow the whistle on a trick>If the moon landing were fake, the conspiracy would have to be so vast that at some point, someone would have come forward with solid proof. At some point, one of the hundreds of thousands of people involved would have got a guilty conscience and come clean. No one ever has>Moon landing deniers constantly uses lies and rhetorical tricks to fool their opponents, and encourage their followers to buy their books, donate money to them, etc. >>533968308How does Apollo 13 factor into that "100 success rate?"
wow, it do be like that mr. h
>>533968332Because, like posted earlier, the simulations were real enough to trick the people involved. Also, Buzz Aldrin all but admitted the "veil of lies" had to be stripped back to reveal the truth, in other words it was fake.>>533968349Apollo 1 retard>>533968371They still survived, wow what luck to be trapped hundreds of thousands of miles out in space and come back alive. Meanwhile 50 years later we can't even rescue people at the bottom of the ocean - Oceangate
>>533968371>How does Apollo 13 factor into that "100 success rate?">implyingObtuse kikes like him like to pretend the "11" in "Apollo 11" stands for something specific rather than just being the 11th mission in the lineage of Apollo missions. It's because of their gay jewish gematria horseshit that they're unable to think of it otherwise and they're just pretending they don't know about all the other missions before and after the first landing.>>533968444>Apollo 1 retardShow pics of the shredded metal and chunks of the launch tower strewn about the pad. It blew up afterall right?
>>533968483It's okay we fixed it and then went from blowing up on the launchpad to making it all of the way to the moon with zero issues. That's just hard work and ingenuity, only Americans 50 years ago could accomplish.
>>533968524>blowing up on the launchpadYou must have forgotten to attach the pic, try again schlomo.
>>533955140that's not how they did it. It was a large shot and they edited smaller to make it look like it was moving
>>533968552speaking of pictures I really like the pictures of the lunar lander. it looks like shit because it's so real, quoted Elon Musk the guy who took us to mars by 2020
>>533968594>desperately trying to distract from the bind he put himself inMore evidence that you kikes are great at rhetoric but have zero sense of long term strategy. Where's that pic of the wreckage on the shattered launchpad from Apollo 1? I don't have all day.
>>533968524>zero issuesApollo 11: guidance computer overload alarms, rendezvous radar switch error, fuel margin low on landing, communication dropoutsApollo 12: lightning strikes at launch, fuel cell disturbances, telemetry loss, attitude reference reset issueApollo 13: oxygen tank explosion, fuel cell failure, power loss, carbon dioxide buildup, water shortage, trajectory correction challenges, reentry power-up riskApollo 14: docking probe capture issues, landing radar lock delay, computer abort signal glitchApollo 15: parachute failure (one of three), seatbelt/strap issues during EVA, SIM bay door concernsApollo 16: service propulsion system oscillations/delay, landing site uncertainty due to engine concernsApollo 17: lunar module fender break, dust contamination problems
>>533968444>Also, Buzz Aldrin all but admitted the "veil of lies" had to be stripped back to reveal the truth, in other words it was fake.Now you are just plain lying. Also you avoided answering the question. Loads of people would have been involved in filming the moon landing in a studio. How come nobody has ever come forward and said I was part of the studio crew?
>>533968444First, Apollo 1 didn't "blow up" there was a fire in the command module and the crew died. Many rockets blew up on the pad, but by Apollo, those kinks had long since been worked out. The Apollo 1 fire was such a huge PR blow to NASA that they delayed the entire program to make sure nothing like it happened again.>Meanwhile 50 years later we can't even rescue people at the bottom of the ocean - OceangateThey were red mist there was nothing to rescue lol And Apollo 13 didn't get rescued, the astronauts did everything themselves and got home under their own power.>>533968524Not true. There were issues, but relatively minor ones. Famously, the guidance computer on Apollo 11 returned a faulty error code on final descent to the moon, but Armstrong ignored it.>>533968594What "should" a lunar lander look like?
>>533955578>>533955618Did you know it was possible to remote control things and broadcast remotely even as far back as the 70s?And with some simple math you can tell the camera to automatically pan upwards too.
>>533968244>reframeI’m trying to discuss a singular topic, that’s all. That’s… just how productive conversations work.Again, it is baffling why this would be so difficult for you; you are clearly a lunatic.
>>533968697They pretend they don't so they can make their point. They also desperately try to distract from the fact that that footage isn't in fact from apollo 11 but from 17 because it took several return trips for them to actually execute the camera move halfassed correctly. It fucks with their jewish narrative so they try to bait you into a bog of pilpul.
>>533968371So if I would, for example, produce evidence (from a source you trust) that the USSR and USA were cooperating at the time, would that make your compelling evidence invalid?
>>533967891Chinese and russians also put retroreflectors on the moon, so it's a moot point anyways.
>>533968783so lets say i pick the over 16,000 images. you'll just say it was faked. you'll say it was cgi or hawaii or something. same if i pick the videos. if i pick the moon rocks you'll say one of them was fake and ignore that the fake one was a personal gift and not one of the hundreds of official rocks sent to over 100 countries. if i pick the fact that the bulk of the costs was in the saturn v rockets that everyone saw take off and at that point you might as well just go to the moon: you'll say something retarded about the van allen belts when thats not how the van allen belts work. i'll debunk whatever your argument is and you'll play dumb and change subjects. the fact that i can debunk all your "proof" it didn't happen with a few minutes of research is of no interest to you. despite it being part of why i believe it happened, equal to all the other reasons i believe it happened.and of course you will never answer my question of what evidence would be sufficient for you. they have pics, videos, samples. thats all the evidence they possibly could have short of holding your hand and personally taking you to the moon.you have nothing, your desperate attempt to guide the discussion along some pilpul gotcha you have planned has failed. you're an obnoxious moron and no honest discussion is possible with you anyways, all i would get is pic related >>533968408
>>533955010>>533969043>1 POST BY OP>MEME FLAG JEWGUYS.WHY ARE THE JEWS REPOSTING THIS THREAD 2 TIMES A DAY?>IT ALWAYS GETS 300 REPLIES>ALL OF THE POSTS LAUGH THE AT MOON DENYING JEWSI DONT GET IT.
>>533960078very true
>>533959083Probably not. People who think the landings were faked are very stupid people.
>>533969161jews have a lot of hubris. they believe its only a matter of time before we "goyim" crack under their relentless pilpul. they want to convince us of their lies because that reinforces their unwarranted sense of superiority. they can't stop now because that would be admitting failure and proving their pilpul wordplay they're so proud of is useless. the goyim know, but in their minds the goyim are mere animals and therefore cannot possibly know.
>>533960921ive been through this with that same polish flag before. he just ignores everything you say and then repeats >>533960987anyway, turns out that interferometery just doesnt work for this kind of observation. its designed to collect information from bright/powerful sources very very far away, not image things on moving plants very very close.
>>533969189the jews remake these threads at least a few times a day. >flat earth is a main foundation of judaismit all makes sense now.
>>533969325the jews lost everything they worked for since 1920, no wonder they are seething so much and spam 4chan with these retarded judaistic threads.
>>533969329>flat earth is a main foundation of judaismNow you're gettin it. It's why they're so urgent to shit up any thread tangentially related to space or space related tech. It's an existential threat to their worldview for people to be talking about something that calls into question their precious jewish firmament. They'll never admit it of course but that's what's ultimately going on.
>>533969329i tink its just part of the general schizo payload that shills and bots like to keep spamming on the boards. look how much that shit about 'cole allen time travel' and the claimed disappearing scientists has been shilled the last little while.same posters doing that.
>>533968826What do you mean by "cooperating?" There is no document or source that proves the US and USSR were cooperating to fake the moon landing. Did you know that the USSR was also building their own moon rocket? If they were "cooperating" why would they waste time and money on it? Why not just backstab the US and score a major PR victory? Why has no Soviet source come forward with evidence of this cooperation since, especially in the 80s when tensions were higher and they had more to gain from doing it?
>>533969450>>5339694669 out of 10 threads on /pol are:>1 POST BY OP9 out of 10 threads are literally jew-made data gethering threads. Hover the mouse over OP in this thread. >OP meme flag jew>1 postisrael is losing hard.
>>533969372it's also an attempt at well poisoning, to associate /pol/ with flat earth retardation so that nothing said here, especially about jews, gets taken seriously. but like everything else they do to fight anti-semitism it just feeds the anti-semitism. when all they really needed to do was fuck off and spare us all their jewish nonsense. that's the tragic comedy of the jew, everything they do to fight the hatred against jews is the cause of that hatred in the first place, they never learn.
>>533969590jews spamming flat earth nonsense is just another evidence that israel lost.
>>533969043You wrote all of this, hallucinating in your mind what would happen, instead of simply stating what evidence you find compelling.It’s bizarre behavior. You are either mentally unwell or are not here in good faith,
>>533969161>>533969189The sad part is that OP used to keep posting in his own thread, but always got btfo so hard he now just ditches after making it.
>>533969510That the countries were cooperating, largely and openly, during the space race.Would that not remove much of the weight of “the soviets would have snitched”?
>>533969737>>533969773hey moshe, do you really expect the goyim to believe that they didnt land on the moon?
>>533969737ok i'm curious, lets see what pilpul you pull if i play your game. lets say i find the 16,000 images compelling evidence. how are you going to play this? lets see
>>533969737nah, what he said is right. you fags are just predictable. >>533969745itneresting isn't it. still plenty of shills and/or useful idiots picking up the slack though
>>533969737>gets cornered>jumps immediately to pathologizing and questioning intent without for a second addressing meritsquintessentially jewish behavior
>>533969737>>533969824the easiest way to win against a jew claiming that space is fake, is ask the jew this:>why do you think we cant land men on the moon?the jews cant answer this, and usually run away.go ahead, try it. ask the moon deying jew why wouldnt we be able to land on the moon.>the jew run awayturns out you can kill these threads with this simple question.
>>533969970they often go to the subject of radiation, about which they know nothing.
>>533969992yup.the script tells them to post about the van meme belt working like opening the ark of the covenant in indiana jones. >everybody laughs at the jew who posted about the van meme belt>the jew runs away>remakes the same thread a few hours later
>>533955496>the arch enemy of USA: Russia and ChinaYou are more stupid than you yourself can fathomIts all a theatre. You think the USA is the only nation states with egyptian obelisks, pyramids, all seeing eyes, the number 33 everywhere on half of all government buildings in symbolismI bet you think the Iran conflict is real to you absolute fucking monolithic vaccinated idiot dumb cunt cum drinker
>>533969889https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/-Gbvxig-d7-wSIAysnYGjg/It's this guy btw, you might already be familiar with him.
>>533955496>the arch enemy of the US>All coincidentally vaccinate their population with the copevid vaccines for a VIRUS THAT LITERALLY DIDNT EVEN EXISTand coincidentally are all pushing the same Digital ID, censorship, internet control, mass 2030 global population control agendasYou are living proof goyim deserve the suffering you get in life
>>533970144>>533970229>a seething jew ran into the thread>stupid goyim i hate the stupid goyimXD
>>533965017You definitely got the covid vaccine and wore the maskYour opinions on human affairs are worth less than dog shit you vaccinated fucking cattle golem moron sub human
>>533970144Man that vaxx is really doing a number on you. BTW we don't really use post PFPs here, that's now what the image field is for.
>>533965396>von braunthey turned our boy into a shabbos cuck.
>>533970144>is the only nation states with egyptian obelisks, pyramids, all seeing eyes,well, apart from places like Egypt, France, Rome, Istanbul, many places in central and south america and cut finished examples in Jordan. and of course all this MUST mean the moonllandings were faked.
>>533970290Put your mask back on golem
>>533955010wheres the engine exhaust though? just asking out of curiosity.
>>533970201man thats retarded. not seen that pic before now but will likely have interacted with the poster.
>>533970290>>533970339>>533970347Go back to your lodge and cry about it you vaccinated retardI know you masked and vaxed like the cattle livestock you are
>>533969992Ask them to show their math and they seethe and bail.
>>533970414cant always see it. depends on fuel and lighting conditions. you can clearly see the effects of the exhaust however
>>533955010Something so simple is seen as impossible by you?
>>533955010perhaps they faked the first landing but consequent ones were genuine, its was about beating the russians & being the first, perhaps they just needed more time but could not risking ruskies taking the credit. the data from the first landing was lackluster while the logs from all following missions seemed to be accurate.
>>533970466naturally the flat earth schizo shill instantly starts calling the opposition vaxxers etc. such a tired old talking point you guys have. maybe have a meeting and come up with some new ones or something.
>>533970466Shut up vaxxie. Maybe one of your "brothers" will console you once this thread 404s. If you ask him nicely I bet he'll use the golfclub you fucks use for your ceremonies.
>>533970366>>533970466hey moshe dont change the subject, and dont run away!i got a question for ya!>why do you think we cant land men on the moon?the jews cant answer this, and usually run away.can you answer?
>>533970520>>533970522ask him the anti-jew question and watch him run away. >why do you think we cant land men on the moon?the jews cant answer this, and usually run away.
>>533970470thats for sure. the best they have is stuff from the old 1950s satellites that first detected the VAB radiation. they think that because the sensors were calibrated for low levels and consequently had readings off the scale that its instant death to go anywhere near them.its all the same stuff over and over again from these people. >>533970512>perhaps they faked the first landing but consequent ones were genuine, its was about beating the russians & being the firstwhy bother? apollo 12 was not long after 11 and russia had basically no manned flights for years leading up to it. they stayed with automated launches after they started losing crews.
>>533955010Apollo deniars are all brown, aka negroes or third worlders.
>>533969970> >why do you think we cant land men on the moon?Because I haven’t seen any compelling evidence. I don’t see any reason to believe something like that without any compelling evidence.What is the evidence you find most compelling?
>>533959405There is no record in ESA or ESO (European Southern Observatory) archives of a formal mission to image the landing sites with VLT-I.The "deafening silence" is likely not a cover-up, but rather the result of a physical impossibility: the VLT-I is technically incapable of resolving the lunar landers.While the VLT-I’s baseline provides the angular resolution of a 130m telescope, it does not provide the light-gathering power or "image fidelity" of one. Optical interferometry at the VLT-I is designed for high-contrast point sources (like distant stars or binary systems). It cannot currently reconstruct a complex, low-contrast, extended macroscopic scene—like a metal lander on a dusty grey surface—into a "photograph."
>>533959445I FUCKING LOVE SOIENCE
>>533970863>Because I haven’t seen any compelling evidence.moshe, thats not what was asked of you. >but you asked the anti-jew question and im losing i have to move the goal postsounds like a you problem. do you think its impossible to land men on the moon?if so, why do you think its impossible?
>>533970924what a stupid thing to think let alone say
>>533970869you know thats a good point. when you read the article it doesn't mention anything about even trying to use the VLT in interferometer mode, only one of the mirrors. they did do a few visual images of the lunar surface that way but naturally the resolution isn't sufficient.
>>533970968Anon… you asked why I think we can’t land men on the moon.Then I told you: because I have not seen any compelling evidence of such.This is a very direct answer to your question. I am unaware of any compelling evidence, therefore I do not believe it.Do you really not see a connection there?
>>533971098>This is a very direct answer to your question.its really not lol. its a very different question you're replying to and not the one asked.its a very obvious evasion of the question
>>533971098>anon do you think we can drive a car to france?>i never saw evidence compelling enough to convince me that a car ever drove to france!you are losing moshe, try again. lets try an easier version of the anti-jew question, ill make it a YES or NO question:>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?oh man, BTFOing jews on 4chan is super entertaining.
>>533971098You are being deliberately dishonest. You are not answering the question.
>>533971231Fascinating.>>533971248So you are having trouble understanding the connection between evidence and belief?Interesting. Should be less surprising but here we are.
>>533971231>>533971268at least we have to give this jew *some* credit for not running away when he saw the question. >he's evading to answer thoughyeah that was expected. still, another L for israel.
It would be more expensive to fake the moon landing than actually go thereThat's how you know the jews didn't fake it - cheaper to actually just do it
>>533971328>a YES or NO questionanswers with anything but a YES or a NO.poor, poor jews, keep getting Ls.
>>533971268I think I understand your point, tell me:Why do you not believe in fire breathing unicorn gfs?
>>533971394hey moshe, its a simple YES or a NO question. >do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?
>>533971394>nonresponsive>frogposterGo gobble on juden peterstein's benzo addled dick some more retard.
>>533971475No.Do you think it’s possible to land men on the moon?
>>533971394An unicorn, which would have similar physionomy as a horse, would not be able to generate enough heat, or stuff to burn in its mouth to breathe fire. Now answer the question: do you think it is is possible to land men on the Moon? Yes or no?
>>533971498the anti-jew question always works, when he remakes this thread tomorrow, use it again and watch him cry.
>>533971354he just wants to avoid stating anything. they prefer to make others run around presenting stuff which they then just dimiss with a quick 'thats fake'.
>>533971498Perfectly sane and reasonable response containing eceleb fellatio fetishes.
>>533971512>nowhy? what reasons do you have to think it is impossible to land men on the moon?
>>533971545>least obtuse frogposterlol
>>533971538which is why all of it isso fucking funny - the jews lose these threads with a simple YES or NO question.
>>533971520It’s “a unicorn”, and I am deeply curious why you think there would be insufficient heat for magical unicorn flames.But we can put that aside.> do you think it is is possible to land men on the Moon?Nodo you think it is is possible to land men on the Moon?
>>533970427Actually, he is here after all: >>533971394Hey retard, do you understand yet how rockets work?
>>533971566>why?I have never seen compelling evidence of such. I don’t see any reason to believe it.
>>533971642what would be compelling evidence?lets see how you dodge this question
>>533971630I’m baffled as to what this has to do with fire breathing unicorn gfs.
>>533971642>I have never seen compelling evidence of such.nobody asked you about believing in evidence.we asked you if its possible to land men on the moon. >nowhy? why do you think we cant land men on the moon?LET ME HELP YOU, MOSHE:lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another. >do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?
>>533971618unlike with manned spaceflight, there is absolutely no precedent for fire breathing equines. but just look how this shill is trying his best to twist away from the question at hand. he';s even trying to get a side debate going about the possibility of fire breathing unicorns, such is his desperation.
>>533971713no no no moshe.we are directing the conversation here, drop the unicorns. lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?
>>533971687I don’t know. If I knew of compelling evidence, I would believe it. That’s how evidence and belief usually works.Do you not understand how odd it is to refuse to tell me what evidence made YOU convinced men walked on the moon, but you expect me to have evidence of something I explicitly said I don’t have evidence for?YOU are the one who has seen some compelling evidence. Why don’t you just say what that evidence is instead of asking someone who has repeatedly said they don’t know of any compelling evidence?
>>533971837moshe, you are losing, at least pretend to try. lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?if NO, why?
>>533971758You asked what I think and why I think it. You got both answers. Multiple times.You still have not answered the very basic question of what evidence you find compelling men walked on the moon.This should not be difficult. Some evidence you saw made you think men walked on the moon.What was it?
>>533971713I take that as a no. Sad.
>>533971901no, moshe, you didnt. lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?if NO, why?
>>533971887Anon, I’ve answered this question several times. I said “no” every time. I explained it was because I have not seen compelling evidence multiple times.I am still awaiting you to tell me what evidence you saw that you found so compelling it causes you to be belligerent and indignant on the internet.
one day even poor countries will be able to send their own men to the moon
>>533971970>I said “no” every time.so its not possible to land on the moon. why not? whats the physical impossibility?
>>533971837i told you already what evidence i find compelling and why >>533960389you decided to dodge that by playing a little game demanding i choose only one evidence. i called you out on that here >>533969043>so lets say i pick the over 16,000 images. you'll just say it was faked. you'll say it was cgi or hawaii or somethingto which you responded>You wrote all of this, hallucinating in your mind what would happen, instead of simply stating what evidence you find compelling.and then i said here >>533969824>ok i'm curious, lets see what pilpul you pull if i play your game. lets say i find the 16,000 images compelling evidence. how are you going to play this? lets seeand you ignored it because you're going to say exactly what i said you were going to say. and you'll ignore it again now
>>533972106I don’t know.I was asked what I think. I don’t think that’s possible because I haven’t seen compelling evidence of it.Have you seen compelling evidence? Everyone else who seems to want to respond to my posts refuses to say what evidence makes them believe it happened.
>>533971970>but i dont believe in evidencenobody gives a FUCKING SHIT.lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?if NO, why?
>>533972188lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?if NO, why?
>>533972136Oh wow, did I really ignore you after saying you were hallucinating or acting in bad faith?I wonder why I did that?Do… do you suppose it is connected to you answering a question I asked several times, only after I made it clear I didn’t take you seriously?
>>533959885Could you tell us more about it please?
>>533972136as we can see, the jew is trying to wriggle himself out of the anti-jew question, but its only making it worse for him.
>>533972273lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?if NO, why?
>>533971837>>533972188if you can't even imagine compelling evidence that means there is no evidence you would find compelling. the 16000 pictures, the dozens of hours of video, the hundreds of pounds of samples, the giant fucking moon sized rockets that lifted off in front of everyone. none of thats good enough for you, well, thats the only possible evidence. pictures, videos, witnesses, samples, what more could you even imagine? we have all the evidence. and then combined with the fact that every "proof" it didn't happen can be debunked with a few minutes of looking into it proves this evidence is airtight. what compelling reason do you have to believe its not possible for man to have been on the moon?
>>533972235Anon… I’m pretty sure I’ve answered “no” 6 times now.I don’t know why this is so difficult for you. Next you ask me why, then I say I have not seen evidence, then I ask you for evidence, then you… ask me the question I already answered…It’s exhausting. Why don’t you just say what evidence convinced you men walked on the moon? This is a really easy way to move the conversation forward.It leaves me with two thoughts: either you actually do not have any evidence at all, or you are operating in bad faith
>>533972326>the anti jew question worked againas predicted. tomorrow when he remakes the thread, just do it again.
>>533972394guys look, i finally broke the jew into an infinite loop. lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?if NO, why?
>>533972394still ignoring this? >>533972136
>>533972188so you think its impossible to land on the moon but have no idea why you think that?and now you're going to keep ignoring any evidence that people have been offering you. what a boring shill.
>>533972453of course he's ignoring it, we broke the jew. another L for israel.
>>533972486>so you think its impossible to land on the moon but have no idea why you think that?the script tells him to use the van meme belt nonsense but that doesnt work anymore.
>>533972486Anon, I have not seen any evidence, so I do not believe it.This is not a complicated idea.>ignoring the evidence given.I literally just asked you specifically for this evidence and you did not provide it.Why are you guys all like this? It is absolutely bizarre.
>>533972509>>533972579i wonder if it wounds his ego to have been so completely bested by "goyim" he believes to be subhuman. probably not, his brain is so steeped in pilpul that he can just delude himself that he was never bested.>>533972673still ignoring this >>533972136
>>533972673lets say we are 1 month before the first moon launch - so literally no evidence yet one way or another.>do you think its possible to land men on the moon?YES or NO?if NO, why?
>>533972673>so I do not believe it.you're not being asked if you believe it happened. you're being asked if its even possible, to which you have answered no despite claiming to have no idea why you think that, and you are very deliberately ignoring evidence that people are offering you.thanks for confirming that you are a troll or a shill. concession accepted.
>>533972719>i wonder if it wounds his ego to have been so completely bested by "goyim" he believes to be subhuman.oh, i know it does.
>>533972786its gonna be hilarious tomorrow when he remakes the thread again and gets shit on AGAIN.
>>533972856how will you know its him? these threads are every hour, 24 hours a day, with the same scripted arguments and images every single time. that means they work in shifts, paid shill astroturfing.
>>533960435>muh flat earth is ruining public interest in muh mk ultralol nobody is buying your bullshit vaxxoid
>>533973016you can't debunk the arguments so you attack the source, very midwit. so what if he's wrong about the vaccine? he wasn't wrong about this >>533967008>>533967038>>533967068
>>533972960traffic on 4chan dropped by 80% when jewmerica started the war with Iran a month ago, i doubt israel can afford to send more than a few shills here. it will probably be the same dude.
>>533973016also notice they always mention the covid vaccine every thread. because they want to associate rational skepticism of an untested gene therapy that causes myocarditis with their flat earth nonsense as shown here >>533960435
>>533973182i do notice we get a break from the flat earth threads every time an iranian rocket attack sends them scurrying to their bunkers.
>>533973261>i do notice we get a breakmany threads on /v and /tv stay up for several days now, lol. >turns out 80% of all posts on 4chan were just jewbotswho knew.
read wagging the moon doggythen decide
>>533955618They cut they wire after they gone up in space you yellow nigger
>>533973333just the same old recycled bullshit. theres nothing new. why dont you discuss your favorite point from it?
>>533973333no, then you look up a debunking for each argument that book makes, see if it makes sense, and then decide. reading only one side of a debate is not how one makes good decisions
>>533973405>>533973448from part 1--“But wait,” you say, “NASA has solid evidence of the validity of the Moon landings. They have, for example, all of that film footage shot on the moon and beamed live directly into our television sets.”I have to mention that transmitting live footage back from the Moon was another rather innovative use of 1960s technology. More than two decades later, we would have trouble broadcasting live footage from the deserts of the Middle East, but in 1969, we could beam that shit back from the Moon with nary a technical glitch!As it turns out, however, NASA doesn’t actually have all of that Moonwalking footage anymore. Truth be told, they don’t have any of it. According to the agency, all the tapes were lost back in the late 1970s. All 700 cartons of them. As Reuters reported on August 15, 2006, “The U.S. government has misplaced the original recording of the first moon landing, including astronaut Neil Armstrong’s famous ‘one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind’ … Armstrong’s famous moonwalk, seen by millions of viewers on July 20, 1969, is among transmissions that NASA has failed to turn up in a year of searching, spokesman Grey Hautaluoma said. ‘We haven’t seen them for quite a while. We’ve been looking for over a year, and they haven’t turned up,’ Hautaluoma said … In all, some 700 boxes of transmissions from the Apollo lunar missions are missing.”Given that these tapes allegedly documented an unprecedented and unduplicated historical event, one that is said to be the greatest technological achievement of the twentieth century, how in the world would it be possible to, uhmm, ‘lose’ 700 cartons of them? Would not an irreplaceable national treasure such as that be very carefully inventoried and locked away in a secure film vault? And would not copies have been made, and would not those copies also be securely tucked away somewhere?
>>533973330they can have threads stay up on /x/ for a week or longer but no, they have to keep trying to push it here all the time.
>>533973717(cont part 1)--Unfortunately, it isn’t just the video footage that is missing. Also allegedly beamed back from the Moon was voice data, biomedical monitoring data, and telemetry data to monitor the location and mechanical functioning of the spaceship. All of that data, the entire alleged record of the Moon landings, was on the 13,000+ reels that are said to be ‘missing.’ Also missing, according to NASA and its various subcontractors, are the original plans/blueprints for the lunar modules. And for the lunar rovers. And for the entire multi-sectioned Saturn V rockets.There is, therefore, no way for the modern scientific community to determine whether all of that fancy 1960s technology was even close to being functional or whether it was all for show. Nor is there any way to review the physical record, so to speak, of the alleged flights. We cannot, for example, check the fuel consumption throughout the flights to determine what kind of magic trick NASA used to get the boys there and back with less than 1% of the required fuel. And we will never, it would appear, see the original, first-generation video footage.You would think that someone at NASA would have thought to preserve such things. No wonder we haven’t given them the money to go back to the Moon; they’d probably just lose it.
>>533973716so first its just an argument from incredulity (i dont know how radio works so its fake) mixed with a retarded comparison (line of sight transmission V transmissions around the world), and then a lot of waffle about the loss of the slightly higher resolution version of the first steps on the moon?like i say, its all the same old stuff. this has all been addressed over 9000x in these threads,.
>>533960389>moon rockanswered by Wagging Moon Doggy Part 2 here is a portion--The problem, alas, is that the only known source for ‘authenticated’ Moon rocks is NASA, the very same folks who are known to occasionally hand out chunks of petrified wood. The other problem, it turns out, is that most of the Moon rocks are, uhmm, missing. Does anyone see a pattern developing here?Since the discovery of the fake Moon rock in the Dutch museum, ‘debunkers’ have claimed that the fact that no other Moon rocks have been declared fake proves that the Dutch case is an isolated one. “After that announcement,” goes the argument, “wouldn’t every other country in possession of a Moon rock have rushed to have them authenticated? And since no other country has made a similar announcement, doesn’t that prove that the Moon rocks are real?”At first glance, that would appear to be a valid argument. The problem, however, is that the vast majority of those countries can’t test their ‘Moon rocks’ because, shockingly enough, no one knows where they are! As the Associated Pressreported on September 13, 2009, “Nearly 270 rocks scooped up by U.S. astronauts were given to foreign countries by the Nixon administration … Of 135 rocks from the Apollo 17 mission given away to nations or their leaders, only about 25 have been located by CollectSpace.com, a Web site for space history buffs that has long attempted to compile a list … The outlook for tracking the estimated 134 Apollo 11 rocks is even bleaker. The locations of fewer than a dozen are known.”It appears then that having a ‘control rock’ wouldn’t really be of much help after all, since nearly 90% of the alleged Moon rocks that we would want to test don’t seem to be around any more.
>>533973771oh i see, you're now just going to spam up loads of stuff without engaging with any discussion. what a surprise.
>>533973716they taped over the telemetry tapes for apollo 11not the rest of the moon landingsall those hundreds of hours of video are still available to watch
>>533973862notice how the other guy being pressed to answer why he think its not possible to land on the moon has vanished, and now theres another USA flag spamming up tired old memes that he'll never discuss?same fucking shill. what a nigger.
>>533973889>>533973883I spoke. Two leafs fell upon me. I laughed, I had read and known better. I kissed Mrs Christa McAuliffe's hand and smacked her ass. Thank God she is alive. I send one more post, and get to business.
>>533973716>>533973771>>533973862This argument mixes a few real facts with misleading conclusions.First, the “we couldn’t broadcast from deserts decades later” claim is false. Live TV from the Moon in 1969 used a simple, low-bandwidth analog signal relayed through large ground stations. It wasn’t comparable to portable war-zone broadcasting, which had different constraints (mobility, infrastructure, security). Apollo’s system was purpose-built and worked as expected.Second, NASA did not “lose all footage.” What’s missing are the original SSTV tapes of Apollo 11, which were reused in the 1970s due to standard data-tape recycling practices. However, multiple high-quality recordings, copies, and broadcasts still exist, sourced from tracking stations worldwide. The event was independently received and recorded by observatories in several countries, not just NASA.Third, telemetry and mission data are not “gone.” Vast amounts of Apollo data, including telemetry, voice transcripts, engineering reports, and tracking information, are archived and publicly available. The missions were also tracked independently by the Soviet Union during the Cold War, which had every incentive to expose a hoax but never did.Fourth, “missing blueprints” is misleading. Some original manufacturing documents were lost or dispersed over decades, which is common for large 1960s programs involving many contractors. But the designs, specifications, and engineering knowledge are extensively documented. We know exactly how Saturn V and the lunar modules worked..
>>533974026Fifth, the fuel claim (“less than 1% required”) is simply incorrect and not based on real physics or mission profiles.Finally, Moon rocks are not solely “verified by NASA.” They’ve been studied worldwide for decades and have unique isotopic and geological properties distinct from Earth rocks. The Dutch “fake rock” was a mislabeled gift, not a scientific sample. Missing goodwill samples given to countries reflect poor tracking by recipients, not evidence of fraud.In short: nothing here demonstrates a hoax—only misunderstandings of technology, archiving practices, and evidence that is still widely available and independently verifie