The people who push blue are the white psychos who want to import millions of shitskins to their countries.
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>>534167450>push blue>either we win>or i leave this shitshowwhat's the downside again?
>>534167450Wouldn't everyone just press red? Blue is just risking your life for no reason
>>534167450it's just individualism vs collectivismblue buttoners don't want to be responsible for themselves and would rather someone else be in charge of their life
>no! it's acktually the blue button folks who understand that the needs of the greater good outweigh the needs of the individual who are the psychopaths!Or... now try this... you're just a selfish brown asshole who looks for ways to justify saving your own hide over the hides of those around you.You're the type of prick who refuses to join the military when your country is attacked because you might get killed and you're not dying to save your neighbors.
Election with two candidates. Both are intelligent people with strong leadership credentials. Candidate A is running on an "Everyone Lives" platform. Candidate B's platform, on the other hand, is that anyone who would be dumb enough to vote for Candidate A is a detriment to society and will be sent away to camps and quietly executed if he's elected.>Red button folks: "N...no! People who vote for Candidate A are actually the bad ones! They're putting themselves at risk and voting to kill themselves!"
>>534167450>NPC goycattle quiznobody forces you to push any buttonjust walk away, like nigger leave lmao
>>534168185>joining the meat grinder for (((your country)))Blue pressers are jews that want the goyim to die
>>534167909Yes. But if you put the trolley and tracks behind a wall and don't tell people HOW they might die, just THAT they might die, many will fail to envision the danger and press it.
>>534167909Yes but the thought experiment needs someone for bluetards to blame so thats they the red button os included.
I also think it's funny how red button faggots have to reframe the entire situation to justify their selfish choice.The original question basically says "If more people push the blue button, everyone lives. If more people push the red button, everyone who pushed the blue button dies." Like Redditors, you have to throw in all sorts of complicated framing to justify yourselves because you're edgelord atheists who think your worthless nigger lives hold some kind of value in the greater scheme of things.
>>534168002The "collectivist Eastern cultures" would overwhelmingly press Red and demonize anyone who pressed Blue as being a troublemaker who deserves his fate for disturbing social harmony by trying to take individual action
>>534167543You never win with blue. Absolute best case scenario is a tie with red
If everyone chose red, no one would die. And if everyone chose blue, no one would die.It is actually blue choosers putting themselves at risk, and needing to convince more people to choose blue too therefore also putting themselves at risk, in order to save everyone.When in reality, all blue choosers could just choose red instead and there is literally zero risk involved.This whole red vs blue button premise isn't an experiment of individualism vs collectivism.It's an experiment on how people of different opinions portray their choice as the absolutely-correct-and-if-you-disagree-you-are-a-monster/stupid.
>>534168419You are clearly trolling but yes that is the whole point; you can rephrase the wording of the question without actually changing the facts in any meaningful way and it completely changes the psychological impression it makes. Hence you should not gamble with your life based on psychological impression alone and should instead use your fucking brain, lemming.
>>534168419>If more people push the red button, everyone who pushed the blue button dies.>push blue because I am le smart
>>534168272Actually I am holding a gun to your head. Press a button or I shoot you dead immediately. The bullet is magic even if you dodge it turns around and goes through your skull. Also after it goes through you, it hunts down everyone in your family and does the same to them. Which one do you press?
>>534167450>another button thread>another 500 posts of people arguing whether le red button or le blue button is the correct answer
>>534167543The red pushers will likely be inheriting the world with the remaining 3rd worlders who also would've picked red, so It probably wouldn't be worth sticking around anyway.
>>534168596>what if magic super god-fascist scenario though?see, thats why this whole "quiz" in ops pic is retarded. its based on satanic reversalif you force me at gunpoint my moral or philosophical reasoning is non existent and of no consequence
>>534168440Best post so far... I'm surprised an anglo knows about the sociopathic degree that "social order" plays in East Asian societies, it has to be on top of social aberrations along "high trust societies" and "goyim are cattle".
>>534168751*bang* you and your family are dead. Congratulations you chose even worse than pushing blue, amazing.
>>534167450Man you guys really want to make this red/blue button meme a thing, huh? Just so you know, I have no idea what this is about, I just see these thumbnails in the catalog. As soon as I make this post I'm leaving the thread; but I am so Chadly unaware of what these gay buttons are about and I will never know or care. Thank you for your attention on this matter.
>>534167909If you push the red button your friends might think the button's colour means you support political parties associated with the colour red like the US Republicans.
>>534168912*bang*Dead. Family; dead. If you're not going to play, don't step on the court.
>>534167450Retards still talking about this? Red every time.
>>534167450If it was real, blue would win by a heavier margin than the original poll results showed.
>>534168912>I have no idea what this is aboutIt's a xitter trend that's currently being forced on this board because everyone on here is a xitter goblin apparently and then the retards will argue over this pointless topic for hours.>>534168961I'm banging your mum Chang
>>534168876>you questioned me, now you die!Kek. Now we all press the button that ties you to the wall and peels your flesh off while you're still screaming. Your family is forced to watch as they are all repeatedly and brutally raped to death by the blue button pushers (mostly niggers)The red button pushers get to watch. What a fun game!
>>534167450I love this place. Hahahahaha anons causing unmeasurable seething as always.
>>534167450People who push blue are the same people who return their shopping carts.
>>534168733What is stopping us from eliminating thirdies after the bleeding hearts are gone?
>>534169000*bang*Should have just pushed a button. I have unlimited bullets btw I can do this all day. >>534168997What button do you push?
i dont want to live in a world where most people wouldn't get onto those tracks
>>534167450>oh no, people made fun of me for picking red before>let me completely redesign the question to fix my infantile logicReminder that /pol/ is the lowest IQ board on the website.
>chance of death by pushing red: 0>chance of death by pushing blue: higher than 0bluefags joined a suicide pact and are desperate to get other retards to join them now that the implications are (more) clear, simple as that
>>534167909>no reasonblue moral fags get to post on social media about how moral they are about saving everyone.
>>534167543>>534168733There is this thing in Canada called MAID.You should look into it.
>>534169174I know 100% you are vaxxed. You took the jab because it was the blue button of the time. We don't like jabniggers around here.
>>534169313literally proved his point
>>534169150I'd like to live in a world where people are smart enough not to
>>534169309>/pol/ still obsessed with maidkek
>>534169313Wrong, nigger.I got covid in march of 2020 and was fine because I wasn't an obese 70 year old with four comorbidities. I did, however, encourage those who were at risk of pulmonary issues to get it.If you have to reframe something to get people to agree with you, your original position was shit.
>>534169443lmfao 10/10
>>534169127You cant shoot people, youre chained to the wall, screaming in agony as rusty razors are slowly removing chunky red layers of flesh from your raw limbs and abdominYou're in such pain that youre begging for death. You see some feral niggers sharing your parents. Your father's asshole is bleeding a lot. Your sister was enjoying it at first, but she always was a whoreGet in character, faggot
Everyone is teleported into a roomIn front of them on a table, is a glass of clean water, and a grenade.If you take a sip of water from the glass of water, you may leave the room.If >50% of people also pick up the grenade, you are also allowed to leave.If <50% of people pick up grenade, the grenade detonates and you die.Why would anyone choose the grenade?
>>534169583Completely unhinged. Best to put you down immediately as well *bang*
>>534169597Blue pushers don't argue that blue is the correct choice. They argue to press blue because someone else may have made the wrong choice.
>>534167450I asked my wife the red/blue question the other night, didnt explain anything just read the question. She picked red without hesitation. She's black, btw.
>>534169707Yes, that's sort of what I was saying here in the last paragraph >>534168554The problem with blue-pushers is they are trying to convince others to put themselves at risk to protect themselves from the very risk they are putting themselves in.Blue pushers should instead be trying to convince others to choose the absolute-zero-risk-option (red).
red pushers want people to dieblue pushers dont
>>534167450Why do you want to stop the train? It's probably full of people headed to work or something and they're going to be late because of your retarded blue button.
>>534169960Why would anyone have to die?
>>534170038We have to stop it to save the people standing on the tracks to stop it.
>>534167450Nothing personal, kid.
>>534170069blue is the most immediate life-saving button. sure red makes more sense after diagraming it but most people are just going to speed read the question and choose blue because it more immediately tells you no one will die.people ITT are spiteful shits who WANT to win and for other people to lose.
>>534168557But the way that it’s framed impacts the entirety of society. We’ve already seen on here and in real life the poll results. At this point, if those observations are going to influence your decision, then you’ve GOT to choose blue because there are always a consistently high amount of blue pushers and even on 4chan the split is about 50/50
>>534169695>ur unheenged!Says the brownoid who was pretending to shoot execute people's families with a magic gun.>the machines slow to half speed
>>534167909The only strong argument moral fags have is that people might make a mistake and pick the blue button so risking your life and 50% of all the people on earth is the moral thing to do to save those retards.
>>534170069Because many people will push blue, the response red typically has to this is that anyone who pushes blue deserves death anyway so it doesn't matter, even if the person who pushed blue was a literal baby or something.
>>534169960red pushers want 0% chance of death. that's it.i remember covid 'precautions'.close every old person socialization option except the grocery store, have zero limits on how many old people can 'shop' (talk) at once, and then go even further and make 'old person hour' so the elderly are all incentivized to go to the store at the same time. Then yell at everyone else for not staying home and ordering groceries to protect the old peoplean entire world of blue button pushers insisting that the people they've borderline forced into pressing blue are only at risk because of people pushing red
>>534170168The button dilemma is win-win. Thank you for your selfless press. You sacrifice will be remembered by future generations of red buttoners.
>>534167450
>>534170085But those people chose to be on the tracks and risk getting run over.The people on the train didn't choose to be late for work.One side is clearly innocent, and it's not the people standing on the tracks.
>>534170356you have not convinced me that you dont want people to die in this button scenario.
>>534170353>experiment depends on the world being in a state where children and BABIES are forced away from their parents and made to make a 50/50 choice they don't understandif you want to weaponize context, have at ye. a world required to make this whole question favorable to blues is no world for a kid to grow up in anyway.
>>534170184anybody who is presented with a question that includes the possibility of dying and doesn’t take any time to think through the best choice deserves whatever happens. You survive with red, simple as that. Blue has insane mental gymnastics that boil down to trying to save retards from their own retardation and I’m supposed to believe it’s the better choice?
>>534170356>red pushers want 0% deathNo they don’t. At best you can say “red pushers want the least amount of death based on a low amount of people choosing blue”That’s blue pushers you’re thinking of. Blue pushers want 0% death because if over 50% of people choose blue then everyone survives. Look at how pants on head retarded red pushers are
>>534170356I'm as anti-covid hysteria as they come and still would press blue.
Catholic thinking (Blue)>Morality is looking out for others>"Treat others how you'd like to be treated">Self-sacrifice>High trust societyProtestant/jewish thinking (Red)>Morality is looking out for yourself>"Pull yourself up by your bootstraps">Natural selection >Low trust society >but i'm an atheistAtheists have protestant/jewish morality.There is no such thing as atheist morality.
>>534170353>gotta push blue because someone else will>nobody goes there, it's too crowded
>>534167450If you switch the button colors around do you still answer the same?
WHY IS ANY FUCKER PUSHING BLUE IN THE FIRST PLACE THOUGH?
>>534169960Red pushers want to live, that's it.Blue pushers fall into two camps.1) they are stupid because they don't realise pressing red will guarantee their survival2) they know there's a lot of stupid people out there, so are willing to risk death to save stupid people (group 1)You're group 1) by the way
>>534170577because the text says it saves lives.
>>534170488The first person who pressed the blue button was saving no oneIts a problem they created themselves. Creating problems for others for no reason at all is jewish behaviorOnly kikes press blue
>>534170349Yes, blue pushers admit it would be a mistake for someone to have picked blue and they would then need to be rescued.
>>534170466The scenario presented a private vote, so no adults aren't going to get to pick the button for the children, that is how the problem was presented, I didn't make it that way.
>>534170458i argue for old people staying home or doing their 3 person card games before ordering groceries online and avoiding infection altogether.i argue for everyone to press the button that ensures they personally will not die.if people incapable of reason are forced into the infection/blue decision, the question wants people to die far more than my answer
>>534170577Practically, I would agree with you, but you have to accept that human behavior is not something you can change. The realizations we have come to have come from a decent degree of thought and days of talking about it. This was an on the spot post on twatter. We have to assume that most people would push blue because normalfags are benevolent. And since it’s a lot of people I’m sorry but I too would press blue, and that includes the rest of the intelligent, benevolent people like me, not intelligent assholes that correctly see red as a 0% risk for them but don’t want to help turn the tide for others
>>534170621But quite clearly if we all press red no one is at risk. This is immediately obvious.
>blue is the first option>it says if most people press it, no one will die>people press ithmm
Redcels are always trying to moralize their position trying to present it as the just and ethical choice, but just press them a little and they will inevitably end admitting "I want them to die, they deserve it for being stupid". They always end up revealing their true colours, they can't help themselves. And they project their own chudness onto the rest of the global population to justify themselves.
>>534170537>high trust society is when you trust that the evil button-makers will absolutely kill any baby that mashes the blue button by chance
>>534170712>We have to assume that most people would push blueThis is the first time I've seen this 'dilemma' (its not) and I can't envisage a world in which anyone concludes the blue button is a plausible choice.
Grok has read all your arguments and determined red is the winner.
>>534170764We're supporting their decisionWhy are do you believe its morally wrong for people to respect others' choices, anon?
>>534170647cool facts with no argument found.you chose to weaponize incomplete context and i countered you. cry about it.
>>534168921My friends aren't retarded
>>534170811Then why does it get around 50/50 choices, even on 4chan?Clearly you’re wrong
>>534170712>human behavior is not something you can change>We have to assume that most people would push bluethen the people behind the question are evil and want people to die of benign ignorance
>>534170776this dude is now using mental gymnastics to demonize the made-up button creator to make pressing red seem less antisocial.
if nobody pressed red, blue would have nobody to feel superior to for picking blue and we can't have that
Blue button pushers are the same people who get mad when you say you don’t watch football.
>>534170577Its a psyop meme meant to condition people to think voting Republican always equals good outcome. But the payouts and conditions are so over the top that the propaganda implications become obvious.In the classic prisoners dilemma there is in fact a cost to being a treacherous self interested swine and thats if everyone acts that way you are guaranteed to get the second worst outcome. As opposed to if you both dont betray.But in this latest iteration the maker took away any downside to betrayal which obviously shifts how people respond.How about the caveat that if more than 50% of people push the red button then 50% of people randomly die regardless of which button they pressed? Does that put the question more in line with the actual prisoners dilemma?
>>534170317If you think a voluntary, zero stakes social media poll is reflective of a compelled, global, life or death choice then you are profoundly retarded. Real life blue pressers would only be maybe a fifth of the most brainwashed western male liberals.
>>534170716>If we allWe won't all>>534170811Because you are a retard.The surest sign that someone is fucking retarded is that they assume the rest of the world is purely logical and rational like they are.Autists have no theory of mind, they unironically believe that all people will press red because it's logically the best choice for themselves at surface level.Now you can acknowledge that blue voters exist and act accordingly, or choose to ignore it for your own selfish gain.
>>534170971you fags havent even posted the exact wording that implies babies are part of this shit. in the scope of this thread, i'm being VERY accommodating by arguing with your hallucinated scenario at all. I don't even remember the phrasing of the original poll.
>>534169466>he recommended itYeah no way you aren't vaxxed. I bet you even got the boosters
>>534168340It's not the same as it was. Dying for Isreal is very 1863..
>>534168554One thing that is very consistent is Red pushers trying to argue with logic, game theory and self-preservation, while Blue pushers argue with morals, insult others and try to gaslight others into taking responsibility for their own actions
>>534170863You either didn't think of the implications of the original thought experiment, or you didn't read it at all and only heard it described to you here. I'm not adding anything that the thought experiment doesn't already imply if you had actually thought about it, not my fault.
>>534171191many such cases
>>534171026>Its a psyop meme meant to condition people to think voting Republican always equals good outcome.wouldnt you actually be able to point to proof that voting democrat was a better outcome at some point then? affirmative action and now race based districts have been found to be unconstitutional, and you would be hard pressed to find a democrat elected who was against either of those things
>>534167450Anyone pressing the blue button is a certified low iq retard. It's actually insane reading some of the defenses people had for pressing the blue button.
>>534171237>accusing someone of only having had it described to them>in a thread where the original wording is completely absent altogether over 100 posts inuh, yeah?
>>534171191True wisdom transcends mere "logic" and "game theory". The right choice doesn't need to make sense to your feeble mathematical mind. That's the difference between having a soul and being a bugman NPC.
>>534171263It goes both ways. It’s amusing that in this case pressing blue is clearly the correct decision, but in real life voting blue dooms humanity to high inflation because of failed philosophy regarding sinking more money into the poor/drugs, like how they have vans that just sit by people shooting up in skid row now with needles
>>534171026No because then the blue button would be the correct choice, since a blue win guarantees you stay alive, while blue losing puts you in danger regardless of which button you pressed. To make it more in line with the prisoner's dilemma there should be a downside if too many people pick red, such as if 80% or more people pick red, all red voters die. That way voting red is only beneficial if you think you can convince enough people to press blue
>>534170577Christian Ethics
>>534170537this is cringepost 101 extraordinaire>>Morality is looking out for others>>"Treat others how you'd like to be treated">>Self-sacrifice>>High trust societyyou're just making shit up. The judeo-christian bible and its traditions do not feature anything like that.Rabbi Jesus says nice things about jews and tells them that jews should love each other. Then he proceeds to fornicate with a client (s.gospel of mark) and cruises for kids in the park.>>Self-sacrificethis is a Pagan virtue. It's doesn't even make sense in the judeo-christian world view except when helping the church/jews. >high trust societylmao, this is even less biblical
>>534171381>it goes both waysyou are not white or have not fully realized the implications of white genocide
>>534171342>its not MY fault that im arguing about a subject im barely informed of. the information is too hard to get! id have to google 'red or blue button debate'!
>>534171305>murdering no one is murder so murder yourself
>>534167450>sovereign | follower>I decide for myself | system decides for me>I focus on my problems| I entangle in others' problems>I make my wife happy | bull makes my wife happy
>>534169960Red button is for people who have self preservation. It's literally not their fault someone is that fucking stupid to press blue.You gain absolutely NOTHING from pressing blue. Zero incentive. The idea that one should press blue because some retard pressed it is so phenomenally fucking stupid, it's honestly hard to put into words.
The red button is literally "fuck you, I got mine"WHY is this board so full of boomers?
>>534171437You're the one voting yes in the murder referendum bro
>>534170895I honestly have no idea and im shocked>>534171026>no downside to betrayalExactly and there is no upside to anyone ever pressing the blue button, only risk>>534171062I understand that but this is so beyond logic I can't fathom the retardedness of the question. You would have to not know what the buttons do in order to pick blue.And its nothing to do with selfishness. Take yourself out of it:>you can flip a coin to decide if people live or die>or you can not flip the coin and we all go homeWhich person on the planet is choosing to flip the coin?
>>534171026>a giant meteor is hurtling towards the Earth>all modern science had failed to come up with a way to stop it>but a proven sorcerer appears with a solution; a human sacrifice>a lottery must be done in which one in twenty people will be sacrificed>but sacrifices must be voluntary for the magic to work>if less than half the world's population volunteers for the lottery, the meteor will destroy the EarthNot exactly the same premise as the buttons or the same combinations of risks and rewards as the prisoner's dilemma. But I think it approximates the feelings of what people (mostly blue pushers) want the button thing to be.
>>534171305Alright regardless of the side of people making these I think I die laughing every fucking time. This is the funniest meme in a while because of the subjectivity of it all
Red = affirmation of life, existence is beautiful with all its dubious aspects, hardship and suffering Blue = denial of life, existence is sinful and dirty, it is better to escape existence in service of the "moral good"
>>534171515>It's literally not their fault someone is that fucking stupid to press blue.Yeah just like when a Chinese CCTV video shows a driver running someone over and leaving them to die on the pavement because "it's not my fault, the light was green".I bet somehow you find it reprehensible when it's a Chinese person doing it.
>>534171305reds can't stop kvetching and making these threads. anyone who lives by the golden rule (99% normies) will understand pushing red means mass murdering up to 49% of all humanity and will push blue against their inner jew telling them to push red. it's fun watching reds coming up with so many rephrasings of the dilemma to make blue look like the bad guys but it's impossible.
>>534171567Reds to be murderers should have some negative consequence attached to them like "if reds win 100000000 million people die regardless of their vote " but that is not the case
>>534171515>You gain absolutely NOTHING from pressing blue. Zero incentive.Before your vote, you're informed that you, your Mother, and your Father are the last 3 votes. You're also informed that the current vote is split 50/50. You can't communicate with them, it's a private vote. What do?
>>534171790The last time I heard this, the red button pushers had their eyes turn red to show their cowardly choice
>>534171606>you can flip a coin to decide if people live or die>>or you can not flip the coin and we all go homeRedfags always need to change the dilemma into something else to try to make their position more palatable.It's not "if you press red nothing happens", it's "if you press red everyone who voted blue dies".Millions of blue voters will die as a direct result of your choice. You can blame them all you want for putting themselves at risk, but ultimately it's your choice to press the red button that kills them.You don't get to detach your choice away from this fact.
>>534171770>only 50% chance to live>press blue
>>534171770
>>534167909it's framed as an emotional experiment but in reality it's an intelligence experiment all blue button pushers are emotionally driven retards
>>534171684Why was the person crossing on red? Even in America, if a pedestrian crosses on a red light and is hit, the driver is not found at fault.
>>534171853Why would anyone press blue though? Let alone millions
Pushing Red means I'm having trust in the intelligence of my fellow men If this was real Anon would push Red and all the r/The_Donald immigrants and Covid refugees would die a miserable death, which would be an epic win
>>534171828That’s a great way to frame it because it shows that most people would absolutely choose blue if it were 50/50 and either because of intimations about public thought, the framing, or actual poll results we do see that it is around 50/50, so it is my belief that blue is an extremely strong fixed equilibrium point in this one move game
>>534168419This desu
>>534171889>"BRUH you don't understand, we need democracy! The greatest good for the greatest number!">when tested, he presses red out of fearKwab
>>534171828Press the red button lmao. If my family press blue they're retarded and risking their lives for nothing.
>>534171949Because I'm ontologically good, and recognise that I do not want others to die or to be responsible for that. So I push blue, because I have faith in my principles. Unlike like red pushers who seek to game the system and live like rats.
>>534171828>sets arbitrary rules after the factEven then, it literally would not be mine nor anyone else's fault for pressing red.
>>534171853I still don't understand the argument that someone somewhere will think blue is an option at all. This is a mindfuck for me.>millionsHang on, I can see how unfounded assumptions on the number of people involved might alter your thoughts i guess. I've only just now considered the colourblind for example. But if there's three people then no one is pressing blue are they.
>>534171853You're so wrong its unbelieveable.>Redfags always need to change the dilemma into something else to try to make their position more palatable.No. That is literally what the red button does. You're just stupid so choose blue (for some unkown reason)>It's not "if you press red nothing happens", it's "if you press red everyone who voted blue dies".Again no. It's if you press red nothing happens. If you press blue there is a chance you've commited suicide. Reds pressing red did not force you to vote blue. you did that all by yourself.>Millions of blue voters will die as a direct result of your choiceMillions of blue voters will dies as a direct result of THEIR OWN CHOICE TO PRESS BLUE. They could have pressed red themselves and been 100% safe>You can blame them all you want for putting themselves at risk, but ultimately it's your choice to press the red button that kills them.3rd time for those in the back. No. Blues took an unnecessary risk in choosing blue, when red was right there.
>>534172096So you'd press blue and risk dying to virtue signal?
>>534170712>I'm intelligent>most people would push blueSo I and (you) don't have then. If you're actually intelligent you would have come to that conclusion on your own.
>>534171853You're the one changing the dilemma. The only party responsible for blue pushers' deaths is themselves. They had the option to guarantee their survival and refused it. To then try and guilt trip people into also risking their lives to save them from their own stupid decision is full blown nigger behavior.
>>534171925>it's framed as an emotional experiment but in reality it's an intelligence experimentwrong it's a human test and reds fail it so they keep making these threads to cope getting BTFO. normies put into this squid game will instinctively push blue. the only ones who hesitate to do so and then still choose red after thinking about it are spiritually talmudic. blue is undeniably the correct logical and more importantly ethical answer
>>534171926It doesn't matter.In civilized countries the driver has a duty to avoid hitting pedestrians even if they are legally in the wrong. And if the driver accidentally hits a pedestrian, they have a duty to check on them and seek medical assistance instead of driving away.
>>534172154I'd risk dying in order to safeguard others. The only other option is to safeguard yourself at the expense of others. Which doesn't sit right with me, because it's ontologically evil and I'm not an Israeli.
>>534171364>uhm, akshully you're dumb >I don't consider you human How very christian of you >>534172096>I'm ontologically goodI seeBecause the more people live the betterKilling is always wrong Live in a way that happiness in the world increases Am I portraying your side of the argument fairly?
>>534172147>>534172240Redfags think they are the first and only person to ever choose a button while Bluefags understand that millions of people already have and will press the blue button.Redfags think in a vacuum, Bluefags think in context.
>>534171985saaaaaaar
>>534172365>Killing is always wrongYep.>the more people live the betterNot necessarily? I'm not handing out viagra to African tribals. I'm not concerned with increasing the amount of people artificially.>Live in a way that happiness in the world increasesYep.>Am I portraying your side of the argument fairly?Mostly, yes
>>534167909That is my reasoning as well. I don't understand why anyone would press blue.
We made the choice "To be"You welcome the prospect "Not to be"So shall it be then
>>534172313>I'd risk dying to safe low iq retardsNear verbatim of people who support mass migration because it saves shitskins lives, even if it risks the needless deaths of others.>The only other option is to safeguard yourself at the expense of others.Except it's not at the expense of others, because THEY CAN LITERALLY PRESS THE RED BUTTON TOO! They made the worst possible decision for themselves, and anyone trying to convince people that pressing blue is a good alternative is either too low iq to understand why it's not, or suicidally empathetic.
>>534172468Anon, every Indian in the world would press the red button. They're driven solely by self-interest
>>534172096But someone is only at risk at dying, because you pushed blue. Until you pressed blue, no one was at risk of dying. So why would you press blue
>>534172127Red's winning condition is mass death of their opponents.Blue's winning condition is survival of all.Red is unacceptable to people with hearts.>but if everyone votes red...Red victory without death requires 100% of the vote Blue victory requires 50.1% of the vote.Blue victory is mathematically easier.
>>534172313>>534172154What about the fact that if you pressed blue to satisfy this inane state of mind you're putting the responsibility on others to save you when they're scared. Would you not feel like a complete cunt if you got to the track and realised you're the first one there?It's not about being good or bad it's about not being a moron.
>>534172619>if I label people as low iq retards, I don't have to give a shit about themneat!>Except it's not at the expense of others, because THEY CAN LITERALLY PRESS THE RED BUTTON TOO!Boomer logic. Why didn't everyone else just hit the bricks and give the button a firm handshake?
>>534172674Except every single nigger, chink, indian or jew in the world is going to press red.Now do the math again.
>>534172506The Death Penalty is bad?Aggressive War of Conquest is bad?Sterilization and Euthanasia would probably be vewwy ewil?
>>534169150It sounds like you should move to India then
>>534172674
>>534171925And as usual, Google Gemini is retarded.
>>534172771>The Death Penalty is bad?Yes? Even those I consider evil ought to agree, because they're penal system would be built on continuing punishment or torture? >Aggressive War of Conquest is bad?Yes? It's not something I would engage in or condone.>Sterilization and Euthanasia would probably be vewwy ewil?Yes, they are both pretty disgusting. The MAID system that Canada has is deplorable, for instance.
>>534172674Why are there any opponents to the 'no one go on the train track so everyone lives' party?
>>534167450hey remember how ten years ago you were saying brexit was going to stop the brown surge in the uk , and then it happened, and it got even worse?
>>534172897Sorry normalfag, but /pol/ is a Red Button board
>>534172668The question is predicated on everyone in the world pushing the button and not everyone is going to push red. If there was any question of everyone pushing red, then pushing blue WOULD be a pointless exercise. But that isn't what is being presented to us.
>>534172688>It's not about being good or badIt is.This is not a test of intelligence, it is a test of morality.Insecure redfags in their eternal strive to prove their intellectual superiority over lesser minds are unable to comprehend the fact that the blue button has already been pressed by large swathes of the population. That's why they interpret the dilemma as an IQ test and not a test of bravery and selflessness for the good of others.Every virtue that white nationalists claim to revere about white people is exemplified by empathetic blue button pressers. The selfish conniving izzat of red pressers is characteristic of cutthroat third world dungheaps.
>>534172993Oh, is that all you had? I thought you were going to have some kind of nazi-based punchline coming up.
>>534167450>push blue>reds seethe cursing you 24/7 changing the wording of the meme to make themselves look good
Pull the lever so the group diesShoot single one and then myself mouth.Kys
>>534172994what if everyone who pushed blue actually want to die?
>>534172674Yep, and at the end of the day, most people aren't going to vote in a way that may lead to the death of other people, so blue will win every time in the framing of the original question.>>534172909We're not talking about the train dilemma here, we're talking about the buttons from the Twitter post I hope. >>534172771Death penalty is wrong because if there's even a 1% chance that someone innocent is being put to death, then it's an evil system. Undoubtedly, there's been innocent people put to death already because there's been many close calls.
>>534173039>naziYou can't say that, that's a slur It's "National Socialist" for you
>>534172994But why would someone press blue?
>>534172909Because they're stupid, because they're suicidal, or because they know that even though themselves might understand the implications of each button, others might not, and therefore press blue in their interest.It doesn't matter why, they exist. Questioning it won't change that.Your choice is whether to kill them or save them.
>>534173099Then you should also try to save those people. Suicide is just as immoral as murder, and it further strengthens the incentive to pick blue
>>534171178What therapeutics would you recommend for someone who has a compromised immune system or COPD when they're going to get a bad respiratory virus?Huffing shit and vaporizing cowpiss?All of the deaths from covid were people with comorbidities; if you are at risk of dying to a disease why wouldn't you take something that alleviates its symptoms? I didn't need it as I was a fit 25 year old and had already caught it a year prior to the vaccine rolling out and had no prior afflictions - but even if I did it's been 5 years and still no mass die off has occurred which makes you fags look retarded.
>>534173099>what if everyone who pushed blue actually want to die?fuck 'em. They don't get to.>>534173113Hitler would push blue. Because he loved his people and wanted to safeguard them, and he would recognise red-pushers as the talmudic vermin they are.>>534173123Ontological goodness. You wouldn't get it, chaim.
This entire thing is just basic game theory.>redzero chance of death>bluenon-zero chance of deathWhy would you ever pick blue?
>>534173161>Suicide is just as immoral>pick suicide
>>534167909Yeah, just like the jab.OhWait
>>534172741People pressing blue is genuinely low iq. It's an emotionally charged, thoughtlessly reckless decision. Anyone spending more than three seconds thinking about why risking Russian Roulette in order to virtue that "you're a good person" is a bad idea, they'd press red.There is absolutely zero incentive to press blue. If everyone pressed red no one dies, there is zero risk pressing red. Anyone encouraging others to press blue is either retarded or needlessly suicidal. Point in case: This poster >>534173009 is literally suicidally empethetic, and would needlessly risk not only his life, but the lives of others to press blue. Notice how he relies on an emotionally charged decision, not a logical one.>you're a bad person if you press red, no it doesn't matter that others have the freewill to simply press red as well
>>534173219Nah. It's just a basic understanding of a few simple rules. A. Not everyone thinks like you do. and B. They don't deserve to die because they think differently to you. Everything else you say is just autistic cope
>>534173215It's not suicide if we win (and we do everytime).
>>534172674>their opponentsConfession that blue pushers are trying to direction braining a logic/intelligence test. People are telling you that you can and should press red, but you somehow think they see you as an opponent they want to kill. You're like a schizo on a bridge thinking the first responder asking you to not to jump is out to get you.
>>534173202The only people who "needed" it were 90 year old morbidly obese people, the only group that were at any risk from meme-covid by the real numbers. They didn't really need it either, since the vax didn't work and just gave people blood clots and rapid onset cancer instead, but still.
>>534167450Red button all day
>>534173210>Why would you ever pick blue?
>>534167450Why are blue button pushers so mad when you correctly point out they are retarded?
>>534168440They'd probably tell people to push red and then watch the cluster B types press blue, begging for mercy, begging for people to help them just because they caused their own trouble on purpose.And the based white Europeans will look at it, and stand by the Japanese, and together they will point at the blues, and lo, the European will quip: "hey, blue rhymes with Jew", and together the Europe-Japan alliance thunders with laughter forever.
>>534173294>people are dumb, so we should all risk our lives to save the retardsPhenomenal argument.
>>534167450red = low trust niggers and jeetsblue = high trust whites and asiansnot surprising /pol/ is dominated by red pushers
>>534173009You still haven't made clear why millions of people will choose potential danger with no upside for the group over the option of no danger. I can't see millions of people doing this in real life, it defies all logic. We can just all press red and avoid this ridiculous situation. Why the fuck is anyone pressing blue.
>>534173395>proving my point by just saying "people that think differently to me are dumb"nigger, you're not as smart as you think you are
>>534173099checked, digits of truth
>>534173371I do not value the lives of others equally to my own, no. It's my job to keep me alive, it's your job to keep you alive.
>>534172243this anon understands
>>534173125I refuse to believe anyone is stupid enough
>>534173315You already conceded blue is the suicide pick.
>>534173437People who think dumb things are dumb so yeah he's 100% right and you are a retard
>>534173371But blue is guaranteed to lose, so any blue press is a guaranteed suicide.
>>534173533You already outed yourself as wholly unable to hold this conversation.
>>534173206Dude, I love when monolingual angl*ids lecture me about the most glorious 12 years of my people's history as if I couldn't judge the men by their very own actions and words
>>534173437I guarantee my survival, I also guarantee the survival of others by encouraging them to simply press the red button. You're an emotionally charged fucktard who encourages others to risk killing themsleves in order to virtue signal. The entire argument in favor of pressing blue has been extremely fucking stupid, it's an emotionally charged, reckless decision, not a logical one.
>>534173621>gets angry when I say that Hitler loved Germany>as if I couldn't judge the men by their very own actions and wordsHe wasn't shy about it, you fucking retard
>>534173371>only scenario where you can die is if you press blue>every person is presented with this same choiceEven when trying to ignore the probabilities involved (100% of women and all non-Whites pressing red) blues still are still clearly retarded.
>>534173316Red doesn't just save me, it kills every blue. Once again redfags trying to obfuscate the crux of the dilemma to make their genocidal choice seem more acceptable.>but if we just convince everyone on earth to vote redYou never will.The irony is that redfags who think they can avoid mass death are FAR more idealistic than blues. Blue is the only one that acknowledges differences in thought, and is the only one that guarantees everyone survives.>well if bluefags die they deserve itThen you are indeed our opponents and you want to kill us. Don't worry, we will save you anyway.
>>534173683>I guarantee my survival, I also guarantee the survival of others by encouraging them to simply press the red buttonWhy do you assume you are able to do this?
>>534173371>presenting 50/50 as an equally likely outcome to others>taking the premise as a 50/50 choiceI guess you can either fire a nuclear cruise dildo into your arsehole or you can not
>>534167450>"WHITES ARE LE HIGH TRUST SOCIETY!">votes redAll you need to know about these people.
>>534173351>bro trust me it was only 90 year oldsYou know nothing of medicine, pipe down snownigger.>They didn't really need it either, since the vax didn't work and just gave people blood clots and rapid onset cancer insteadMay I see your medical credentials, Dr.Chud?The vaccine didn't prevent infection but it did lessen the symptoms which is way better than being hospitalized as you choke for more air than harden than george floyd.
>>534173515Do you live in a world where everyone agrees with you on everything?
>>534173757Dumb.
>>534167450This Brazaryan gets itRed button kills the virtue signallers
>>534167450I've got a sort of trolley problem:OP posts: he is a fag.OP doesn't post: he's still a fag, but we don't need to see his posts.
>>534173721>Then you are indeed our opponents and you want to kill us. Don't worry, we will save you anyway.Based fellow principled blue-pusher.
>>534167543See, this is another thing: There's always going to be someone pushing blue to kill himself. Blue morality would seriously call you selfish for refusing to push blue, and yet will decide over someone else that deliberately want to end his life on the spot (and some even want to bring other people with him). This experiment has already been exhausted, and there's nothing in the world that you can say that makes pressing blue a correct answer in any capacity, people who do just hate being alive.
>>534173722Why do you assume encouraging other to press blue would also change their decision? You said yourself that people think differently, if enough people think red is the better choice, then why the fuck would anyone think pressing blue is a good idea?
>>534173772>The vaccine didn't prevent infection but it did lessen the symptomNo it didn't, that was a post hoc media construction that was never proven, and "lessening symptoms" was not something your cancer jab was developed or tested or intended for.
>>534170317I'm not responsible for your suicide.
>>534173690nice strawmanvery cute
>>534172391You want to save idiots by being an idiot yourself and convincing others to be idiots as well, so you can all be alive happy idiots.Red pressers realise you don't have to be an idiot to live. You can just press the button.You're basically convincing people to join a death cult to save morons.Reds aren't killing you, you're risking your own life. I that commendable, possibly; is it smart, no.
>>534173861It's not assumed that anyone gets to influence anyone else.
>>534173879>strawmanthat Hitler loved Germany?
>>534173862You're right, I'm sorry.I just didn't think about it that way.Truly it was designed for mass depopulation.One more fortnite.
red wins: deuteronomy 28:1-14blue wins: deuteronomy 28:15-68
>>534173604We get it, you're a retard
>>534173779I would guess that of a random poll, the answer to the question 'is getting run over by a train a good idea' would score 100% no.
>>534173894My point still stands. You said it yourself. People think differently, by that logic why the fuck should anyone press blue and risk killing themselves?
>>534173926>depopulationNah, we knew early on what it was for, the studies done on this (that you didn't hear about in your jew media) showed that 1 jab reduces sperm quality by about 20%, permanently. So 2 jabs and 3 boosters = 100% sterile pledditor.
>>534173983>wecringe
>>534172243We’re already on a zero-trust shithole prison planet. No matter who presses what button humanity is not going to trust eachother or recovering from the upcoming events.>tremendous hopepillSuch a stupid cope. If anything the blue pressers are suicidal and red pressers want to give blue pressers a quick death before the end times approach.
>>534174011>people think differently>why the FUCK shouldn't everyone think the way I DODon't worry, enough of us will press blue to save your slimy, selfish carcass. We always have.
>>534172391Someone was the first person to press the blue button, anonYou are not thinking in context at allYou're assuming people pressed the blue button, even before the results are outWho knows? Maybe you're the only one and everyone else who says they pressed blue are just exhausted of your hackneyed artificial moralfagging. Anyways, i support blue button pressers up to 49.9%
>>534174087Pressing blue doesn't save the people who pressed red, you fucking retard.
>>534173721bro you're the schizo on the bridge just go with the nice man where it's safe and maybe you can find some other way to save all of humanity some day
>>534174144Anon..I.."If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives."
>>534173987That's not what's being polled.Redfags are incapable of arguing without false analogies.
>>534174222People who press red survive regardless. You pressing blue does not save them, only the possibility of others who are dumb enough to press blue.
>>534172243If you don't push the blue button than my blue button won't work!Enjoy your vaxxaids.
>>534174222The only ones at risk are the retards pressing blue in the first place.
>>534174118The chance of me being the first to press blue is about 1 in 8 billion.>Anyways, i support blue button pressers up to 49.9%Redfags complain about blues acting morally superior and then they say shit like this.
>>534173721The only person killing blues is themselves.>Blue is the only one that acknowledges differences in thought, and is the only one that guarantees everyone survives.You have it completely backwards. Blues are retards that cannot imagine any way of thinking other than liberal suicidal empathy. To all normal humans there is no test. You press red. Everyone should press red. Why would you not press red? That's what would be going on in the entire rest of the world. Blue never has a chance of reaching the 50% in the real world. Which means every single person pressing blue is a pointless death.Is 100% of people pressing red possible? No. But more people pushing red saves lives.If this test was only taking place in the US and/or Europe you can start making arguments for blue, since it might actually be possible to reach the 50%. Maybe. But the rest of the world is not that retarded.
still red buttonare u stupid?
>>534174222>Im saving your life right now. >No, you werent in danger, thats irrelevantNow thank me. I am morally superior. Kek the absolute state of bluefags
>>534167450>Brazil teaching logic
>>534174403Im just saying. If all the people moralfagging about their own created problems just dropped dead, maybe it wouldnt be so bad
>>534167450Blue button is gun control coded
>>534174415>Why would you not press red?Because other people won't.
>>534174263But its clearly the crux of this retarded 'dilemna'. Blue to create a problem, red to not create a problem. My bad for being naive enough to assume everyone will independently agree no problem is best.
>>534167450DO YOU WANT TO LIVE?>PRESS RED BUTTONDO YOU WANT A CHANCE TO DIE PAINLESSLY?>PRESS BLUE BUTTONEVERYONE ELSE SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>534174042>bro check out my cool image for a study I've never even readYou have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Even the literal who's that wrote that came to the conclusion they support it.Imagine basing your opinions on groupthink of the lowest IQ board on the website.
>>534174314>>534174339>>534174419"Fuck you, I got mine"As I said. Boomer mentality
>>534174566Your 7th analogy fails again because the problem already exists. We're not choosing to create it or not create it, we're choosing whether to mend it or let it run its course and take millions of people down with it. You do not have a megaphone to explain your rationale to 8 billion people with, and you cannot expect 100% of them to think like you. It is a statistical inevitability that people will press blue, much to your bafflement, and it is up to you to react accordingly.
>>534174561And in every other culture, they will be blamed for making a retarded choice. Which means vanishingly few people in those cultures would choose blue to begin with, knowing it would grant them zero social credit and instead have people damning and mocking them in death. And so blue cannot win and blue pushers are commiting pointless suicide.
>>534167450the colors are truly what dictate the choice people make with this faggot social experiment and its making me want to vomit seeing how dumb and mind controlled the masses are
>>534174798You know nothing about other cultures.
>>534174415Blue is the absence of thought.Blue is also the schizo up on the bridge leaping around creating all sorts of drama while red is stood at a distance looking over and thinking 'what the fuck are they doing?'
>>534174702>these results might seem concerning>but what's important is getting this experimental untested shit into the goyimTop kek, enjoy your childfree old age, dud.
>>534174339Exactly. I don't get why there's a discussion about which button press?
>>534174709>won't someone think of the dying Africans!?>we need to risk our lives to save these migrants!>you're a boomer if you don't put your life on the line for blue!
>>534174713>you cannot expect 100% of them to think like youAnd you can't expect 50% to think like you.>It is a statistical inevitability that people will press blueAnd it is also a statistical, cultural, and anthropological inevitability that substantially more will press red.>it is up to you to react accordingly
>>534170537Is retarded ignorant false dichotomy that you have to be either some dogmatic religious useful idiot or some spiteful atheist, but i assure you that your efforts made christcuck larpers reconsider dropping it entirely.
Which of the two buttons saves OTHER people.Blue or red?
>>534168002Its not even collectivism, its just retardation + pathological altruism. Theres literally no benefit to pressing blue. It's not a prisoners dilemma scenario where theres a risk/reward. You could make that argument if it were something like "if you press blue you risk getting killed but if 50% presses blue you survive and everyone gets a million dollars" or something like that.Blues think theyre heroic, they think theyre making a noble sacrifice to save others, but all theyre doing is exacerbating the problem and serving to coerce others to also put themselves at risk. They are the problem they think they're solving
>>534167450https://poal.me/mu7mc7
>>534175009Who needs saving?
>>534175009The only person you can save is yourself.
You are obligated to press red to get rid of retards.
>>534174566Once again nowhere does it say millions. How big is this fucking train.Regardless the problem begins when the first person, against all plausibility, picks blue. You frame this as inevitable for some reason. Although reading this thread I understand that's unlikely to be some semi aborted foetus touching blue by mistake and will almost certainly be some insufferable cunt with a hero complex.
>>534174839>complete recovery after several months>come to the conclusion why the reduction occurred was a system-wide immune response to perceived infectionI called you a snownigger earlier but now I'm convinced you're a nigger in a land where it snows.Two more weeks; and stop citing publications for things you've never read let alone have the education required for understanding them, dipshit.
>>534175068Are you sure blue doesnt potentially save others?
>>534175152Others? Like whom? Who is there to be saved?
>>534174907>Only migrants and Africans press blue!Anon, they'd press red. They're all about low-trust self-interest. Just like you.
>>534168254>>534168185The absolute seething. Youre just a retard. You are not moral. Youre not even intelligent enough to understand morality. You trying to be moral is like a monkey trying to wear a suit.
>>534175120Meant for>>534174713
>>534167450100% of people would have to pick red for everyone to live, but only 50% or more would have to choose blue for everyone to live. Considering the kind of world that would be inherited if only red pushers lived and all blue pushers died, I think I'd keep with blue.
>>534167909>Total lack of empathy genesBrown detected
>>534167450>pick red and have eternal white reich >hit blue and import 1 million niggers, but if enough press blue, people will get mad and genocide the niggers Wait a sec, redbros…lets rethink this
>>534175140Kek, it's a good thing you're sterile though.
>>534175203Ya. Im sure thats why all the fags keep picking blue. If all the migrants are picking red, then you have to pick red DUMBFUCK. Youre outnumberd by then. You just owned yourself you goddamn retard.
>>534175267Every day there is a small fraction of people who press blue, when they commit suicide, overdose on drugs, drive drunk, engage in reckless behavior, and so onDoes this fact keep you up at night?
>>534167450>Blue button pov
>>534175280Empathy doesnt include suicide lol. Thats just irresponsibility
>>534175380>you have to agree with the inbred jeets or you'll DIEkek fine. Enjoy the world being mumbai, coward
>>534175267People who live in the real world? Removing self righteous moron psychopaths with suicidal empathy would ONLY improve the planet. Only.
>>534172243This is true. This is a seeth/cope thread. For the mads
>>534174709>fuck you, im killing myself and if you dont stop me youre a bad personLiterally nigger mentality kek
>>534170712>normalfags are benevolentYou mean performative?>>534171770There is absolutely 0 chance youd take a coinflip result to determine if you live or die unless you're just suicidal.
>>534175203>they'd press red>white population is not even a fourth of the worlds populationThen why the FUCK would you press blue? Are you actually this fucking retarded? You'd essentially guarantee your suicide.
>>534175450Ya. Considering they out number you, if you dont, you'll be dead. Im not sure whats complicated about this to youIs dealing with even basic numbers in general just over your head?
Let me post a revised scenario to the blue bros in this thread. Lets just say that the first vote is tallied and it was 46% blue, 54% red. The super blue death genocide beam has a glitch though and doesnt fire! In fact, the super blue genocide beam wont fire until another vote in the same circumstances is taken. The next day, everyone privately receives their buttons again.>The original scenario plays out a second time, 51% blue saves everyone, 51% red kills anyone that didnt vote red button.Do you stay voting blue and hope just 3% of the original reds flip their vote to blue in order to save the 46% of humanity that would have died, or do you change your vote to red since blue lost the original vote?
>>534175203Then you admit that importing them to replace you was a bad decision?Blue is self selecting for destruction, and none of them can argue that point
