China built all these subway lines which might seem impressive until you realize they have subway stations in the middle of nowhere. It's all for show. See:https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/18gxozt/exit_of_chinese_subway_in_the_middle_of_nowhere
>>534302356>gets BTFO last thread>ill remake the thread>>534285713embarrassing
Even their HSR system is $1 trillion in debt alone and not making a profit. They keep building things to save face. China is trying to build their way out of this problem, causing them to be in massive uncontrollable debt.https://chinafactor.news/2024/11/25/china-is-speeding-toward-a-us1-trillion-black-hole/https://www.cato.org/blog/chinas-high-speed-debt-trapChina as it is now is unsustainable.Unsustainable from a financial standpoint, since they have real estate bubbles all over the place and finance their export industry just by picking up ever more debt.Unsustainable from a governmental standpoint since they are getting more corrupt by the minute and grow ever more inefficient.Unsustainable from demographic standpoint because of lack of immigration
Are you okay fent boy?
blackpill on China>Xi Jinping ... a monumental failure ... He’s the very definition of ambition without talent, and the Chinese people are suffering under his leadership.- Philip Byrnehttps://www.zerohedge.com/news/2026-02-03/gone-too-far
>>534302356God forbid you plan for future expansion.
>>534302356CIA sponsored daily anti-china shilling.Even fucking redditors call them out on their bullshit, something that shouldn't even be possible, LMAO, and yet it happens.
This thread was brought to you by National Endowment of Democracy, Central Intelligence Agency.The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) is headed by Carl Gershman. In 1968, he worked inthe research department of B'nai B'rith, and in 1972 he served on the Governing Council of theAmerican Jewish Committee.Here is a list of projects NED funds:China (mainland):- Advancing Women’s Rights: $60,000- Assistance for Human Rights Defenders: $272,000(Probably money for an organization called Chinese Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) which has nostreet address, but two persons employed in Washington DC and one in Hong Kong,https://www.nchrd.org)- Building Advocacy Capacity and Empowering Civil Society to Protect Human Rights: $412,300- Capacity Building for Human Rights Defenders: $300,000(Probably also for Chinese Human Rights Defenders (CHRD))- Combating Censorship and Supporting Free Expression: China Digital Times, Inc. : $340,000(https://chinadigitaltimes.net. No street address is given, but it is: «Supported by the Berkeley Counter-Power Lab»)- Defending and Assisting Rights Defenders: $60,000(Probably also for Chinese Human Rights Defenders (CHRD))- Defending Journalists’ Rights: $65,000- Democratic China Electronic Journal, Democratic China, Inc.: $180,000(This is the same organization as the one late Liu Xiaobo and his wife Liu Xia’s had. For their NED-funding during the years 2005-2010, see: https://blog.hiddenharmonies.org/2017/07/13/liu-xiaobo-rip-but-we-should-never-forget-the-14-million-yuan-from-ned/)- Empowering Environmental Rights Activists: $110,570- Empowering Workers: $75,000- Engaging Critical Analysis and Political Discourse: $140,000- Ensuring Free and Open Access to Online Information: $200,100- Humanitarian Assistance for Human Rights Defenders: $40,000(Probably also for Chinese Human Rights Defenders (CHRD))- Monitoring Media Freedom, Freedom House: $85,000- Promoting Democratic Ideas and Values: $150,000
>>534302356china isn't betraying han ethnicity by bringing in infinite foreigners
>>534303309- Promoting Democratic Values, Wei Jingsheng Foundation, Inc.: $68,100(Wei got in 1997 «National Endowment for Democracy Award». The foundation is based inWashington DC, http://weijingsheng.org)- Providing Information and Analysis on China’s Human Rights, China Change: $73,000(Washington DC, https://chinachange.org)- Raising Public Awareness of Civil Society Developments in China, Center for International PrivateEnterprise (CIPE): $215,643(Washington DC, https://www.cipe.org)- Religious Freedom, Rights Defense, and Rule of Law: $40,000- Strengthening Civil Society for Policy and Legal Accountability: $172,000- Strengthening Organizational and Advocacy Capacity for Community-Based Organizations: $110,000- Strengthening the Rule of Law to Protect Human Rights and Public Participation Rule of Law:$280,000- Strengthening Worker Rights and Representation: $90,000- Supporting and Empowering Human Rights Lawyers: $238,000(Probably China Human Rights Lawyers Concern Group in Hong Kong, http://www.chrlawyers.hk/en)- Supporting Civic Participation in Public Governance, Center for International Private Enterprise(CIPE): $234,160(Washington DC, https://www.cipe.org)- Supporting Free Expression and Open Debate, Princeton China Initiative: $40,000(Connected with Perry Link, http://www.princeton.edu/paw/archive_new/PAW04-05/08-0209/perspective.html)- Supporting Grassroots NGOs: $90,000- Supporting Labor Rights: $63,500- Sustaining Civil Society in a Repressive Operating Environment, International Republican Institute(IRI): $600,000(Washington DC, https://www.iri.org)-Worker Rights Awareness, Solidarity Center (SC): $335,650(Washington DC, https://www.solidaritycenter.org)Tibet:- A Symposium for Tibetan Intellectuals and Artists, Filming for Tibet: $60,000
>>534303344(Switzerland, http://www.filmingfortibet.org)- Amplifying Voices from Tibet, The Tibet Relief Fund of the United Kingdom: $22,150(London, http://www.tibetrelieffund.co.uk)- Building Networks in Defense of Rights and the Environment, Students for a Free Tibet, Inc.: $40,000(New York, https://www.studentsforafreetibet.org)- Demton Khang, The Tibet Museum: $210,000(Dharamsala, India, http://tibetmuseum.org)- Empowering a New Generation of Tibetan Leaders, Rights Action Lab Inc.: $50,000(No address. But they write: Rights Action Lab is incorporated in the United States as a Not-for-ProfitOrganization, http://rightsactionlab.org)- Tibetan Centre for Human Rights and Democracy: $35,500(Dharamsala, http://tchrd.org)- International Advocacy for Human Rights in Tibet, Tibet Justice Center: $58,000(Oakland, CA, http://www.tibetjustice.org)- Promoting Conflict Resolution and Democratic Processes, Tibetan Centre for Conflict Resolution:$25,000(Dharamsala, http://www.tccr.org)- Strengthening International Support for Human Rights in Tibet, International Tibet Network:$110,000(San Francisco, CA, https://tibetnetwork.org)- Strengthening the Tibetan Movement, Campaigning and Leadership Training Students for a FreeTibet, Inc.: $50,000(New York, https://www.studentsforafreetibet.org)- Tibet Express Newspaper, Khawa Karpo Tibet Culture Centre: $35,000(Dharamsala, http://tibetexpress.net)- Tibet Times Newspaper, Tibetan Literacy Society: $43,000(Probably Dharamsala, http://tibettimes.net)- Tibetan Community Development Fund Inc.: $33,000(Washington DC, https://tibetoffice.org/tdcf-under-construction)- Voice of Tibet: Independent Shortwave Tibetan Radio: $34,700
>>534303391(Based in Norway, https://www.vot.org)Xinjiang:- Advocacy and Outreach for Uyghur Human Rights, Uyghur Human Rights Project: $310,000(Washington DC, https://uhrp.org)- Uyghur Human Rights Advocacy, World Uyghur Congress: $246,000(Munich, Germany, http://www.uyghurcongress.org/en)Hong Kong:- Expanding Worker Rights and Democracy, Solidarity Center (SC): $130,800(Washington DC, https://www.solidaritycenter.org)- Strengthening Democratic Institutions and Human Rights Protection: $105,000- Supporting Civic Engagement on Fundamental Rights, National Democratic Institute for InternationalAffairs (NDI): $300,000(Washington DC, https://www.ndi.org)
>>534302356>>534302464You absolute mouthbreathers DO know that the US Interstate Highway System ran massively "in the red" for decades and that nobody called it a "money pit," right? Or that Japan's Shinkansen was technically loss making for years before it wasn't? But sure, when China does it it's a "gray rhino." When the West does it it's "visionary public investment.">trophy projects in rural communities are diverting resources from the social safety netYeah, connecting rural populations to economic centres via high speed transit is definitely the same as setting money on fire. Great analysis. Did you get your economics degree from a fortune cookie?>ticket prices have been RAISED on MAJOR routes with PREMIUM SEATS introduced...That's just called running a business, mate. That's literally the thing you do to reduce debt. They identified a problem and are actively addressing it and somehow this is evidence of imminent collapse.>the $1 trillion figureOh, a trillion dollars of debt. In a $18 trillion economy. For a 48,000km network. Meanwhile the US has $36 trillion in national debt and its passenger rail consists of one sad Amtrak that averages the speed of a depressed jogger between New York and DC.>2011 train crash mentioned ominously at the end for no reasonAh yes, the "throw something scary in at the end and hope nobody notices it's from 13 years ago" journalism technique. Pulitzer worthy stuff.The article is essentially "China built a lot of stuff, the stuff costs money, sometimes big things that cost money have debt, therefore DOOM" and written by people who think infrastructure should turn a profit in year one or it's a communist failure, while riding on publicly-subsidised roads to their publicly-subsidised offices.Keep coping while China rapidly outpaces you, I'm sure that will fit the rot in your country.
>>534302356This spam again ?
You lost, tranny.
The real "ghost cities" in China will show up in 20 or so years once chinese boomers die off and all of a sudden 1/4th of the country will be abandoned buildings
>>534302356Nigger, China first built subway lines, then they built the city.Building a subway line when there is already a city there is extremely expensive.
>>534303044Why would a non-Christian celebrate a Christian holy day?Do you celebrate Chinese holidays? Indian holidays?Your post is not different from those dumb Americans complaining about going to Europe and having a shock learning they don't celebrate the 4th of July there.
>>534302464The US has $30 trillion worth of EXTERNAL DEBT.China has $2 trillion worth of EXTERNAL DEBT.And you are worried about China spending in infrastructure instead of the US spending 1 trillion every 3 months helping Israel?Love your sense of priorities...
>>534304691Nigger.Look at external debt. This is the only thing that matters.Internal debt for a commie country is fuck all, because the CCP-owned business just "lends" money to the government free of interest to pay back in 100 years, if you feel like it.You need to worry about external debt, debt that YOU NEED TO PAY.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_external_debt
>>534305027Debt is debt. No external capital coming in due to too high risks at too little potential return, main export market also demographically deflating and going isolationists. China is a walking corpse.
Quick! CCP defense force activate!
>>534305272>Debt is debt.I don't expect anyone in /pol/ to understand this, but China fakes its debt to devalue its currency to keep its products competitive.Here is an article written by the US Treasury Exchange calling this practice unfair.https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm751>No external capital coming in due to too high risksNo, there is no external capital because CHINA IS A COMMUNIST ECONOMY THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOREIGN INVESTMENT IN THEIR STATE-RUN COMPANIES.There were a few exceptions, like Evergrande (which made thousands of Americans lose all their retirement funds because Jews were greedy) and BYD (the single best investment that Warren Buffett made in the last decades).>main export market also demographically deflatingExcept it is not. China is literally taking over the car industry...>China is a walking corpseI think I read this in 2004.
>>534305619Also, before someone claims China is collapsing because their private sector housing boom has pretty much halted, I will just remind you faggots that 95% of the adults in China own their homes.Who the fuck is going to build homes if everyone already has one?
>>534305619If you count the "state owned economic actors", China has a debt to gdp of 1200%. It cant reduce exports or it becomes a comical version of Japan. The shiny rock ponzi game failed, the real estate ponzi failed 4 years ago and there is nothing else to save its communist ponzi. If its deflation accelerates, and it appears to do so, China has only one last option: attack Russia
>>534302356Cool now do freight lines
>>534306302Let me explain to you in a way you can understand.China's debt to CCP-owned companies is like a teenager's debt to his parents.WORRY ABOUT EXTERNAL DEBT!
>>534302356>they have subway stations in the middle of nowhere.Because they build the neighborhood after building the subway.This way workers can take the subway to the construction place.Ironically it's USA that has train stations in the middle of nowhere.Because Americans are expected to drive to the stations so they need gigantic car parks.
