Some of you remember me constantly posting these posts.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534771https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534871Adam, Eve and Satan challenged God's sovereignty. Satan accused Jehovah of bribing Job in exchange for loyalty. Christianity is meant to answer those challenges. That's all.>What is it meant to accomplish?To prove three things:>Satan is a liar>Humanity cannot govern themselves>Humans will be loyal to God in return for nothing.>Was is the solution to all the world's problems?After God is satisfied with those issues thoroughly being answered and accomplished he will bring Armageddon to earth. A one world government ruled by Jesus Christ as king. That regime is simply called God's Kingdom
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(Matthew 24:3) “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?”>Jesus said that his presence would be signified with...(Matthew 24:7) “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.(Luke 21:11)...in one place after another pestilences...(Matthew 24:12) and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.>The earth would be ruined and polluted.“Bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” (Revelation 11:18)>The message is officially spread of his coming and his Kingdom.“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”—Matt. 24:14.>The Announcement of Peace and Security“Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thess. 5:3.>The Great Tribulation>ArmageddonWe are currently in the pangs of distress Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 which is part of the last days. We are not in the Great Tribulation. Where we are is in the moment right before they announce peace and security. They are going to announce a word wide call of Peace & Security in some way. Then the Great Tribulation then Armageddon.
We are at the bottom of the feet.
theodicy
Who is Babylon the Great and the Scarlet Colored Wild Beast?
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>>534316210The Last Days
>>534316559Babylon the Great represents all religions on earth that oppose God. All of them.>(Revelation 17:5) And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.”>(Revelation 17:1) And one of the seven angels that had the seven bowls came and spoke with me, saying: “Come, I will show you the judgment upon the great harlot who sits on many waters,>(Revelation 17:15) And he says to me: “The waters that you saw, where the harlot is sitting, mean peoples and crowds and nations and tongues.>(Revelation 17:18) And the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.”The Great Harlot has many daughters, controls all the kings of the Earth, and all nations, tongues, and people. This can't just be the Jews and the Catholic Church because the RCC is limited to certain areas on earth now in influence. The "daughters" are desendants of the RCC which is now the Anglicans, Evangelicals, Protestants, and arguably Islam. Since this includes ALL the entire inhabited Earth then this would also include pagan religions as well like Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Confusionism, Taoism, etc.Babylon the Great is the WORLD EMPIRE OF FALSE RELIGION. It is ALL organized FALSE religion.
>>534316559>>534316559>>534317527The Bible teaches that all governments on earth will simultaneously turn on all religion on earth. It will be God that will put that thought into them.They are going to announce peace and security in the near future. Immediately is when the Great Tribulation starts. Then Armageddon.>Babylon The Greathttps://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000531Basically, in a quick summary. Babylon the Great is the entire collective of false religion in the world. The "kings" of the Earth are going to manipulated by Jehovah God himself and be made to turn on all religion in the world. That event IS the Great Tribulation. Because of the mass amount of loyalty towards religion it will be another world war. Only instead of King vs King it will be Pastors, Monks, Clerics, and fellow believers against the Kings and militiaries of the world. It will be religious believers against nationalist/secularist. The Nationalist/secularist will win. They will take all the churches/temples, properties, money, money vaults, EVERYTHING from them. Then after that it will be Armageddon. During this time God and Christ will let their presence finally be known. NOBODY will be able to deny him anymore. Then Armageddon.Right now we are in Peace & Security. There is going to be an announcement of worldwide Peace and Security soon. Then when that happens the Great Tribulation will begin.For those of you unaware right after Peace & Security comes The Great Tribulation. But what is the Tribulation? It is the destruction of Babylon the Great. Or the Harlot that rides the wild beast. This is the world empire of all religion in the world. Basically, God is going to manipulate the "Kings" of the Earth to all together simultaneously turn against all mass religion and destroy it and devour it.>“Whenever it is that they are saying: ‘Peace and security!’ then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them.”—1 Thess. 5:3.
>>534315634God isn't all powerful. God created the universe and imbued it with free will so it could shape its own destiny in ways he could not comprehend or foresee. Creation was his gift.
>>534317720God is all powerful. It's why his title is Almighty
>>534315634Humans are suffering in this world to wake them up and show them their need of Jesus Christ, because God doesn't want them in Hell, which is worse than whatever happens on earth. Despite horrible conditions on earth, humans assume that God is pleased with them, but the truth is that if you refuse to come to the knowledge of the truth by rejecting Christ you will remain to be condemned and will suffer, and eventually it will be too late to accept God's free offer of salvation. Mankind is "sold under sin" (Rom. 7:14), which is why God has delegated authority to Satan, who is in charge of this present world system. Satan and his angels spirits etc. are in charge of leading, guiding and directing men where they desire to overlook God's word (2 Thess. 2:10-12).If God will allow a power to control things when this power is evil and malicious, then why would the passage in 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 cause any wonderment at all? The passage merely states that God gives what a man demands and asks for. If he wants a lie, he gets it.Your own self-righteousness is not good enough to get you to heaven. Your pride brings you to hell, which is why you have to surrender to God instead of foolishly rejecting the freely given gift of salvation He is offering to you.Simply put, the book of Job answers the main question of man: If God is good, why do innocent people suffer?Job never stole, lied, compromised, cursed etc. He was more righteous than you, but he had a fault known only to God: Job was trusting his works to be justified to God (Job 27:6, Job 32:1-2). When Job repents like God wanted (Job 42:6), God gives him twice as much as before (Job 42:10)As long as you think you're good in your pride, you won't accept you're evil. This is the reason why humans suffer, to show they're not right with God, and strip away their pride, motivating them to rely on God, nothing else.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRT2FFXntcDo you want to accept The Lord Jesus as your saviour?
>>534315634Jehowa Witnesses are a doomsday cult fake religion, tell me, demon worshipper, Jesus was God in the flesh?
>>534315634Creation is unethical because the created beings will suffer unless the god of creation IS every being they create . God personally becomes each being and gives up power and knowledge that he has done this.
Everything exists. It cannot be any other way.
>>534315634>Why does God allow suffering and evil to exist?I've never understood why people have an issue with evil existing ngl. It seems so childish.
>>534318955First, Hell doesn't mean what you think it means.Hellhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/529202923/#q529205344The condition of the deadhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/529202923/#q529205399God's attitude of burning people alivehttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/529202923/#q529205433According to the Bible, when people die they cease to exist. They go to oblivion, nothingness and permanent unconsciousness. That's hell, permanent non-existence. Second, God is not allowing suffering to exist to save mankind, he's allowing suffering to exist to save HIS REPUTATION. Satan slandered him. He called God a liar to Adam and Eve and a briber of men in front of all the angels.
>>534318983>Jesus was God in the flesh?No,>>534319075God is not a dog, cat, bird nor starfish. >>534319329Wait until your government demands you give up your house to a bunch of Muslim migrants. We will see if you are okay with evil existing.
>>534319375Eph 4:4-5There is only one Lord, so why do Jehova's witnesses say they have two lords to worship? It's one Lord, not two. That means Jesus Christ has to be the same as Jehovah God.John 4:24 NWT God is a spirit2 Cor 3:17-18 NWT translation Jehovah is the Spirit (Do you think Jehovah is the spirit, Mr JW?)Acts 5:3-4 Lying to The Holy Spirit = Lying to GodIsaiah 6:8Then I heard the voice of Jehovah saying: “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?” (Us) And Genesis 1:26Matthew 1:23 With Us Is God.The Jehovas Witness cult relies on corrupted "Bible" translations and many other lies to fool those who will not accept the word of God.Jesus is God:John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."John 1:1-2: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."John 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”Philip 2:5-8: Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."Matt 28:19“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
>>534319535Not an argument.Plus I have a big enough freezer and meat is expensive.
>>534319674the Trinity.John 1:1https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/524076197/#q524086887https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/524076197/#q524086959https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/527543621/#q527552299John 8:58https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/526133526/#q526135443https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/526133526/#q526135477https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/526133526/#q526135521First and lasthttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/476792277/#q4767969751 John 5:7 Johannine Comma.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/524856987/#q524861139History of the Trinityhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/524856987/#q524873957https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/524856987/#q524873992https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/530120544/#q530121298
>>534319674>Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:That's not even the original translation.>Revised Standard Version published in 1952 reads: "... who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped.”>The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson published about a hundred years ago reads: “...who, though being in God’s form, yet did not meditate a usurpation to be like God.”>An American Translation published by Smith and Goodspeed reads: “...Though he possessed the nature of God, he did not grasp at equality with God.”>The New Testament in an Improved Version upon the basis of Archbishop Newcome’s new translation published in 1808 reads: "... who, being in the form of God, did not eagerly grasp at the resemblance to God.”>The Emphasised Bible by J. Rotherham reads: “...who in form of God subsisting, not a thing to be seized accounted the being equal with God.”>The Riverside New Testament translated by William G. Ballantine, D.D., reads: “..., who, though he was in the form of God, did not think that equality with God was some thing to be grasped.”>New World Translation -"...who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.Why all the blasphemy?
>>534319674>>534320268The original translation is harpagmon/harpamos. It derives from harpazo which means: to seize by force, to claim for oneself, to snatch out or take away. That word is then used to create harpagmon in Philipians 2:6 which means now THE ACT OF seizing by force or steal away violently. That's the same Greek derivative where the word "harpoon" comes from. A tool used to snatch up something violently or by force away. So the original idea is that Jesus never thought of taking God's sovereignty away from him by force the way Satan did with Adam and Eve. The original translation of that verse, alone, proves not only Jesus is not God but not even Jesus thought of himself as God as well. He never wanted equality with him.>“We cannot find any passage where [har·pazo] or any of its derivatives [including har·pag·mon] has the sense of ‘holding in possession,’ ‘retaining’. It seems invariably to mean ‘seize,’ ‘snatch violently’. Thus it is not permissible to glide from the true sense ‘grasp at’ into one which is totally different, ‘hold fast.’”—The Expositor’s Greek Testament (Grand Rapids, Mich.; 1967), edited by W. Robertson Nicoll, Vol. III, pp. 436, 437.
>>534315634Maybe god is a libtard?
>>534320310>>534320268>>534320143All these mental gymnastics when God has clearly showed where He has chosen to preserve his written word:https://truthischrist.com/seven/https://truthischrist.com/elton-anomaly-823543/https://truthischrist.com/70x7-kjb-code-jesus-is-the-son-of-god/https://truthischrist.com/golden-sequence-kjv/Just check https://kjvcompare.com/Then select all the contradictions, and maybe your eyes will open. The Egyptian (Alexandrian) texts are not where God chose to to preserve His written word, if you've read the Bible even a little bit this would be obvious to you. The KJV is from Textus Receptus which is over 5000 copies of texts, and uses The Byzantine Text which is from Antioch where the first Christians originated from (Acts 11:26).You say things like "original translations", but then you start quoting "Revised Standard Version published in 1952" are you serious?John 20:28“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”>no no, that's not what he meant! He was just taking the Lord's name is vain and Jesus nodded in approval... Umm, i guess..Come on now.
