Well /pol/ are you keeping the commandments?>For verily I say unto you, Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall pass from the law until all is fulfilledIt doesn't matter what Paul said. Jesus said to obey the law.
>>534368531Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursedActs 15Without circumcision which is the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved
>>534368531>>534368606Revelation 2:9Revelation 3:9Romans 2:28-29Philippians 3:31 John 2:22-232 John 1:9-11You don't even need to engage with pilpul. Just post these Bible verses in their entirety or in part. You don't even need to elaborate.
>>534368531Is that AI or there really was a time when he looked human?
>>534368623>You don't even need to elaborate.Because you can't elaborate because you know you're wrong. Paul contradicts Jesus. You should call yourself a Paulian
Genital mutilation of infants is always evil.How did you get tricked so easily? Retard.
>>534368741>Genital mutilation of infants is always evil.It is what God commanded however. Have you read the Bible?
>>534368531>what is ceremonial vs moral lawalso it is God who writes his commandments onto your heart, you dont keep it by your own efforts.
>>534368782Sure, the creator of all reality came down to the desert to tell some illiterate savage to cut off the tip of his dick. I absolutely believe this ridiculous nonsense!This actually works on you? You just wholesale buy into it? Without any shred of incredulity?
>>534368531Hey retard - if your religion requires chopping parts of the penis of infants, it's evil.
>>534369009So are you saying the god of abraham isaac and jacob as depicted in the Bible, who jesus is claimed to be the son of (and be himself, if you believe in the trinity), is evil?
Imagine taking advice on Christianity by those who rejected Jesus.Enjoy hell.
if you worship a jew then you are not white
>>534368964Are you a Christian?
>>534369084I'm just going by what Jesus said, which was to obey the law. Why do you follow Paul over Jesus, while calling yourself a Christian?
>>534369156>>534369111Are you retarded or just pretending to be a retard?
>>534369496Can you explain how I'm retarded, using the Bible?
>>534368606>Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursedthat's not what it says though, you're lying, go bring up the real quote, israel is never mentioned
>>534368531Everybody loves America's favorite Rabbi
>>534369777God is talking to Abraham in that verse. i.e. he is talking to Jews
>>534368606Jewland is not biblical israel
>>534368531hilarious to assume i'd have a connection with a jew myth, that was used to enforce jewish rule over us. get the fuck outta here, you miserable mutilateds.
>>534369832oh, he's talking to abraham, and abraham is a jew so surely that must mean he's talking to all jews somehow and surely that means what he really meant was israel right? so just rewrite gods words then to say what you feel he must have actually meant? and surely that also extends to todays jews in israel who aren't even provably descended from abraham and surely they aren't the syanagogue of satan jesus warned about?
>>534368531You can't connect with Jesus if you are circumcised, docking requires at least one cock with a foreskin.
>>534369750Yes: you believe in magic and magic isn't real.I don't care if bronze age savages thought it was, they were wrong and you should know better.>>534369832There's no way that you actually believe that God, creator of all reality who crafted the arrow of time and wrote cause-and-effect as a natural law, the being who orchestrated all of existence as part of some infinitely vast and incomprehensible plan known only to he...came down to the desert one time to tell some savage to cut the tip of his dick off. You don't believe that. I refuse to pretend that you believe that, it's just too fucking stupid. Fuck you, quit playing around you nigger.
>>534369998>I don't care if bronze age savages thought it wasWhy then do you believe in the same god as those bronze age savages? Unless you are a deist or something and I missed that part.
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>>534369156>>534368668jesus was killed on the cross, dying for our sins. this changed everything. then he rose from the dead, spoke to his apostles, and ascended to heaven. paul was one of those apostles who jesus entrusted to spread word.
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>>534370099Project strawman arguments onto somebody else, you worthless nigger.Followup: Fuck you
>>534368531A rabbi who preaches how Jesus drowning in fecal matter in hell lecturing about me without understanding a sentence of holy trinity because he clearly confusing him with God.
>>534368531Someone stab this kike when he's streaming next time.I want to hear his real voice when he's crying in pain.
Imagine born jew, and parents say son let us tell you about the great Abraham. You see, us jews used to sacrifice our sons to our demonic G-d (his true name shall not be spoken) for worldly and material promises. They were put into the fire and this is called a holocaust, a burnt jew offering. Thanks to the wise Abraham, we discovered we didn't have to holocaust you to get these worldly gains. We just had to mutilate your penis instead, and have the rabbi suck you off after. He'll be back when you're 14 to give private lessons to make you a full jew
>>534368531>if you dont buy a bbc dildo from my daughter's and my online shop, you are a naziYou don't want to be a n*zi do you anon?
>>534370845I just don't see how these desert stories still work on people. They're obviously nonsense, even if there is a creator of all reality you think he came down to one desert in one region of one planet in one galaxy to tell people what to do with their dicks? Or to tell them that he enjoyed the pleasing smell of dead animals being burned on a pile of rocks?How the fuck does this work on people?
>>534368606Wrong. Christianity is a supersessionist doctrine. This is exactly why the jews hate it so much. One of the reasons.>Galatians 3:16: Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.> the promises made to Abraham were directed at him and a specific, singular "seed" (offspring) rather than many descendants. Paul defines this singular seed as Christ, arguing that the covenantal promises of blessing are fulfilled through Jesus, not through a general biological lineageAnd Hebrews 8:13:>In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.>>534368623Galatians 3:16:>Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.Hebrews 8:13:>In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
mutilating children is wrong, and people who disagree with this most simple of concepts should have their genitals torn apart and be left to bleed out.
>>534371214Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew.
>Old book say THIS!>Oh yeah? Well old book say THIS!Do you people have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
>>534371122yeah why not, he can be everywhere and anywhere at once. i think the dick thing was more about giving them a chance to prove themselves, as a test of loyalty cutting off a piece of your own dick is pretty hardcore. less hardcore is sacrificing your own food supply as an offering but still a test of loyalty. making you walk the walk not just talk the talk. but anyways after jesus died for our sins thus redeeming humanity we didn't need to cut up our dicks anymore.
>>534368531>if you are as your god made you and intended you aren't connected to him and hisJewish hubris.
>>534371449He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
>>534368531fuck you jew
>>534368531Shumely, I’m more than willing to debate (and thereby crush you) on any matter, secular or ecclesiastical — whether it be your contrived pantomime “religion” larping as Israelite or the sublimity of Christ Jesus.You must first understand that Christianity as explained in the New Testament is not a religion at all. It is a person, his name is Jesus Christ, and he is either with and in you, or he is not. It’s far too lofty a concept for those trapped in the materialist dialectic. I’m not sure you could even understand it if it were carefully explained to you.
>>534368531It's vanity (done in vain)>Galatians 6:15: "For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.Philippians 3:3>For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.>For verily I say unto you, Until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or one tittle shall pass from the law until all is fulfilledThis was fulfilled with Christ.You can discern objective morality from the law, and for your societal/legal laws by it. But you can't gain salvation through actions of your own
>>534368531>made in his image>body is the temple > cut that shit offPick a lane shlomoe. >jews and cocks >everytime.
>>534368531I don't believe in jew fairy tales, jew fairy tale characters, and not believing in jew fairy tales doesn't make me a follower of a jew fairy tale character.
>>534369009Only the degenerate kikes could have dreamed up a religion this ridiculous. What kind of sick god says 'If you want to hang with me, you have to cut the end of your dick off?'And all these idiots think it's normal.
>>534371511That is a baffling amount of justification for something that by all accounts, makes no fucking sense. It isn't sensible to imagine the creator of all reality showing up in some desert to tell savages what he wants from them, come the fuck on anon. This is obvious horseshit and that doesn't even preclude the existence of a Creator.>>534371575>you can only see it if you belieeeeeve!What are you, 5 years old? Get a real argument.
>>534368531what does this blasphemous kike know about ChristianityRomans 2:25-29
>>534369802That is one rotund chicken.
Every American has been brainwashed into cutting off their babies dicks on behalf of Jews and now once your dick has been mutilated you will defend the practise for the rest of your life time thus keeping the mutilation going for generations. Wild stuff really
>>5343686061) that was the command of a sorcerer, Baalam. He was not Israeli. His name is a derivative of Baal, and it means “swallower of the people”. Moreover, the injunction came by virtue of the mouth of a jackass. 2) you are not the nation of Israel. You are imposters. I will concede that there are some actual genes from the tribes of Benjamin, Judah and Levi among your ranks, but they are the minority of present day Jews. Those who are are likewise polluted with non Israeli blood. 3) the new Zion was to be established by The Messiah upon his return to earth, not via the machinations of a clique of Jewish bankers and the English throne (with the assistance of the US). That is to say, the current state of Israel is an abomination before God. You will NEVER force His Red Right Hand. You will not hasten Him to action. You will not sway Him. And you most certainly will not act on His behalf with your ridiculous larping. If anything, you have kindled His wrath. Woe unto you, and you do have it coming. Those among you who are to be preserved shall be preserved. And nothing will ever change that. The rest of you were formed as vessels of dishonor to be rekt by his rod of iron, as described in the Book of Isiah. And while in that book, check out Chapter 53. It may open your eyes to The Truth. https://youtu.be/RrxePKps87k?si=qT-mk2RtVX6ZfGAK
Those who curse the synagogue of satan will be blessed. Those that bless the synagogue of satan will be cursed.Isaiah 5:20Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Religious people shouldn't vote. Why bother? It's in God's hands, right?Stay home and don't vote.
>>534368531That makes no sense for Jews or Christians. It doesn’t even make sense for Messianic Jews.
Henlo frens. I just got a new Bible. I LOVE it. I decided to spend some coin this time and get a nice one. Check it out!
>>534369156Luke 16:16, the law and prophets were until John the Baptist, afterwards it's about Jesus. Romans 2 shows that you can circumcise, cut your nuts, make yourself and act as Jewish as you want but it won't save you, the only thing that matters is Jesus, not some outwardly peacocking nonsense.
>>534371392Yeah, the message came first to the jews>For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.Jews rejected him and got cursed>Matthew 27:25: "Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children."And they have been adversarial to man kind every since. E Michael Jones talks about this in >The Jewish Revolutionary SpiritThe jews have been revolutionaries every since then, causing trouble and over throwing of societies.Jews (actually it was Israel, not just Judah) aren't "God's people" any more in Christianity. That's another religion besides Christianity. Old covenantDeuteronomy 14:2, >For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth"New covenant:1 Peter 2:9 >But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
>>534372505It’s very handsome. Supple goat skin and gold leaf. French paper, sown binding and two column lay out. This thing is so sweet. This will be the Bible of my manhood and see me onto the grave. I intend to pass this one down to whatever son of mine deserves it most. I can’t decide which book of it to read first to launch my next phase of study. Any votes? What’s the first book I should read in it? NKJV, btw.
>>534368531>Paul > Jesus
>>534368531Wish I could uncircumcise myselfFuck my golem parents and peer pressure
>>534368531God made man in his image, thus altering your body is against god. Which means judaism is against god.Simple as.
>>534372735Indeed. Paul is of some merit, no doubt. But where there may be confusion between the two, the bias is always to Christ.
>circumcision is now avodah zarah hara hamalah lyeshuaoy vey...
>>534371973why would it be sensible to assume the creator of all reality is actually unable to take the time to talk to people in a desert because somehow his time and attention is limited.
>>534372837It’s not so cut and dried. I basically agree with you point. But I don’t think circumcision is a make or break issue. I don’t consider it in and of itself to be sinful. The sin would come in assuming that in so doing you are pleasing God or that it in some way aligns you with him. Personally (though I am circumcised) I feel it’s a fairly barbaric custom which should be phased out. I don’t like the thought of traumatizing baby boys immediately upon their birth. Even in the Bible it was to be done on the 8th day of life (as mine was done). I personally see no benefit in it, so why do it? Some girls find it more aesthetically pleasing. But I don’t think that should figure into it. For then it becomes something very lowly, like a form of cosmetic surgery for babies. Babies don’t need any cosmetic surgery. They’re plenty cute the way they are.
>>534373155>It’s not so cut and dried. I basically agree with you point. But I don’t think circumcision is a make or break issue. I don’t consider it in and of itself to be sinful. The sin would come in assuming that in so doing you are pleasing God or that it in some way aligns you with him. >Personally (though I am circumcised) I feel it’s a fairly barbaric custom which should be phased out. I don’t like the thought of traumatizing baby boys immediately upon their birth. Even in the Bible it was to be done on the 8th day of life (as mine was done). I personally see no benefit in it, so why do it? >Some girls find it more aesthetically pleasing. But I don’t think that should figure into it. For then it becomes something very lowly, like a form of cosmetic surgery for babies. Babies don’t need any cosmetic surgery. They’re plenty cute the way they are.Jewing the creator (arguing with scripture) does not change the outcome. If you were circumcised your body has been defiled by a satanic perversion cult.Period.That doesn't mean you're going to hell but you have to give up thinking that the words of those who follow only satan mean anything.
>>534373063I see the angle of your attack, as I never implied anything about "limited attention/time".Good try but no.Your premise is that the all-powerful, all-knowing shaper of reality showed up in the desert to tell people not to eat shellfish. My premise is that that never happened, instead primitive people made it up to enshrine local laws as being "holy". If you can back up your premise, do so now.
>>534373340i never implied that you implied that. my argument is that if he can show up anywhere and everywhere with no limitations then why wouldn't he show up in a desert for savages, and a billion other places too we don't know about. clearly those primitive savage people could benefit from the guidance.
>>534373498never mind, re-reading my comment it seems i did imply thats what you were implying. my bad
>>534373546>>534373498I just don't think that >"God told me bro, trust me bro" works as a basis for a belief system. I don't see how this basic-bitch trick works on people, maybe on bronze age illiterates but modern people? It's clearly a bunch of hoseshit. Why on Earth would you buy into it? Why would anyone? This is asinine and western civilization has a bad case of sunk-cost-fallacy when it comes to religion. Yes I know your ancestors believed but they were wrong, you can move on.
>>534373708ok but that's a different argument.
>>534368531no, i'm not jewish (or a jewish slave), so i don't need to keep jewish law
>>534373814It's all the same argument and can be boiled down to one question: Is magic real or did people just make that shit up?>spoiler: people just made it the fuck up
>>534374027no its a different argument for the same position
>>534368531you should ask him what his personal views on Jesus are.
>>534374218Whatever nigger, I don't believe in magic or magic books. People who do have something wrong with their heads.
>>534374321ok
>>534374514If people kept their weird beliefs to themselves then it'd be a non-issue, believe what you want to, but this is a circumcision thread so that goes out the window since that supposedly harmless belief leads to infant genital mutilation, which is so obviously evil that I'm gobsmacked by anybody defending that position.If there's an all-loving God up there then I'm pretty sure he doesn't want us doing that shit to babies. Call it a hunch.
>>534374877i don't agree with circumcision either but it's not like you calling their books silly is going to convince the people that do this to stop. i took the approach of arguing from their books, that the new testament overturns the old rules with a new deal borne of jesus redeeming mans sins on the cross, which will be more convincing to any christians who might believe they need to circumcise because a jew told them to. these believers have had atheists calling them silly and saying all the things you're saying their whole lives, they're well used to ignoring it, so you're wasting your time and will realize that one day and stop bothering.
>>534368531Galatians 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.Galatians 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.circumcision was done away with Christ
This pic sums up how I feel about it.You've left no legal or diplomatic ways to stop circumcision in the US.It interrupts and destroys a man's confirmed g-spot.It prevents the foreskin from being there to act as a shield against infection and dirt/dust.It deadens the 2 portions of the brain on the left & right that regulate emotional response + impulse control - ensuring circumcised men are perfect consumer cattle.You have a million lawyers and lobbyists who would prevent this barbaric practice from ever stopping.When people begin dragging you out on the street and slaughtering you, I won't be there to protect you or help you or speak a kind word. I'll just simply say,>You could've avoided this fate by doing the right thing instead of the religious thing.You've earned this hole in the ground you dug. Guess it's time to lie in it. Stop ruining humanity. We wanted a peaceful option and you ruined even that with lies and slander and propaganda. This shit has to end.
>>534375167>i took the approach of arguing from their booksI won't concede that ground, the books are not the words of a divine creator and I have no interest in playing pretend long enough to try and 'win over' cultists. Simply ban mutilation and arrest anybody who practices it.
>>534370099The New Testament is not Bronze Age, you slimy jew
>>534375488ok but you don't have the power to do that. at most you could maybe convince some christians not to listen to this jew, that's the best you could do. yes we should ban genital mutilation, and you could have some of the christian majority agree with that but not with the arguments you're using.
>>534375537So you have 2 gods? Old testsment god and new testsmemt god? I thought Bible is 1 god and christianity was monotheistic. This is news to me. Dual gods. Cool. How do you call that? Or there is trinity + old testament god?
>>534375537Isn't the god of the new testament the same god as in the old testament? That's why the hebrew Bible is referred to as the "old" testament yes?
>>534375336>says the circumcised pharisee, paul
threadly reminder circumcision permanently destroys your brain and nervous system with trauma. that's why jews and americans are so deranged and neuroticit's a demiurge blood ritual loosh multiplier
>>534378281Very very Jewish meme to claim to be the one who spread Christ. The kike's hubris knows no bounds. >it was always our plan to be treated as second class and have the very Messiah that disproves our religion be spread across europe where pagans were always more tolerant allies to us
>>534368531ask that jew to say Jesus is Christ, Christ is King.
>what is baptismInteresting how american "christians" pretend to be protestants but actively ignore Martin Luther.
>>534368623Corinthians 7:18-19
>>534368531>Jesus said to obey the law.no. jesus said "when in rome, do as the romans do"which is not the same thing you collapsed anus
>>534368531Why has nobody posted the side profile?
>>534378516paul was trying to separate christianity from judaism and point its corrosive influence at the gentiles, instead of the jews. i'd say he succeeded beyond imagination.of course they always had their faithful golems (you), but the first pope and all the apostles and jesus himself were all jews.
>>534379191that's good stuff
>>534368741you have completely wrong approach to lifebecause if you did not you would never interrupt anyone in inflicting harm to themselves or their childrenI know this is alien concept to you but this is why you are losingI am against circumcision but I have advised all pregnant women I know or knew to circumcise their sons
>>534379602>paul was trying to separate christianity from judaismChrist did that you absolute mongoloid. Saul was just keeping with what Jesus set down.
>>534368632he isn't human, the creature is straight up goblin.
>>534368531The Law of Moses is a contract. If a contract is fulfilled then it's over