>>534792414Dat nigger got a perm
>>534792414Id laugh at him but I’ve been a bartender at Chilis since I was 22 and I’m 35 now. It’s an easy job and pays the bills. I don’t have a single goal in life that involves work or career so probably will never quit.
>>534792938My cuz bartends at an airport in Philly and makes like $2k a night…
>>534792938same
>>534792414Middle aged men reflecting on their status and not being happy with how far they've gone isn't a new phenomenon.Sometimes I envy people who seem like they were just content being poor and having some job that pays the bills, not making their career their mission in life.I'm also poor, but there was so much fucking pressure around having some stellar career I can't accept a random unimpressive job, even if it paid more than what I currently do. Not even about parental lectures anymore, I don't care about their input. But the shit that was hammered into my head as child is stuck there and I'll never be able to work a job that can't pass for sounding like it's sophisticated.>>534793043Sounds high, but airport bartender, especially in a place like philly where the drinking culture is heavy would be lucrative af. Service industry in general can be very lucrative if you're good at it.
>unvaxxed>Untested>Unemployed>uncut
>>534792414>>534792938Bartender at Chilis sounds boring but in the right neighborhood or city I could see it being tolerable. People probably come in, don't get too crazy, the restaurant is never open past 10 or 11, and you probably still get decent tips. It's really not a bad dead end job/career. Working retail on the other hand seems horrible. Having to deal with people all day, but not even getting tips like a bartender or waiter. It sounds hellish. I drive a bus which isn't great but at least I get to operate a big machine which is kind of fun
>>534792938i work at UPS. i have been there long enough that i get paid to the point where, i would be an idiot to start a new career at this point
>>534792938Funny I was a barista in this small cafe for around the same age range. I actually loved it. Making drinks, shooting the shit with my hot co-workers, making friends, dating customers, genuinely great tips(which let me afford a place on my own). My boss was in love with me (literally) and she fired me because she said she hated seeing me work there and be comfortable because I "could be doing so much more". She was right, as after she fired me I worked full time on my indie game development and make great money now doing shit I love, but man, I would have loved to have an extra 5 years working there. When I save enough money I plan to actually move to somewhere where the weather is nice and open up my own little cafe, and continue the ride, just in a boss position instead of a employee.
My work history is >store manager 4 years>mechanic 3 years>heavy equipment 1 yearIm 45.... I just cant do it after a while anymore. If I call in sick once its over.Wife doesnt care thankfully. At this point.... no idea what to do
>>534794718Bartending can be comfy or nightmarish depending on the type of place. Drunks aren't fun to deal with, nor are snobs or entitled people.Retail wasn't bad when I did it. Very occasional annoying customer, but nothing compared to what you deal with in the service industry.The worst part about it is the pay, but you become a manager/regional manager at larger stores, they obviously start doing grown up wages.
>>534793043I'll have a titos and vodka
>>534792938How many waitresses have you piped?
>>534794725I worked one of those seasonal helper jobs there and everyone I talked to who was a real employee seemed to love working there. They all made $35+ an hour for what seemed like a very comfy job.
>>534794943How the hell do you only have 8 years of work experience at that age?
>>534794942>dating customersThis is where the post fell apartDidn’t read the rest but it is probably full of even more made up shit that only an idiot would try to convince others of happening
>>534792414a leaf!!lol... try being less brown you poopjeetsame goes for the OP
>>534792414Rather be homeless than a pathetic wage Welfaremaxxers won
>>534794943You've only spent 5 of your 27 adult years working?
>>534792938Imagine the pieces of flair
>>534793043>My cuz bartends at an airport in Philly and makes like $2k a night…If true this kind of pisses me off. Pouring drinks into a cup isn't worth 2 grand a night, I don't care how good you are at pouring liquid into a cup, it's not worth that much money.
>>534792414That something mentally.
>>534792414I did retail from 1994 to 2008. Was different before the internet and walmart killed everything. I worked in a few regional department stores that went bankrupt in the 2000s. But after that, I was burned out on it and started into maintenance/janitorial jobs. It's easier and far less stress. Retail is soul crushing. You feel useless and you are nothing more than a monkey that customers are told to point and laugh at or abuse.
>>534792414Thank you for your service, tax golem
>>534795426it's not bad. i have some good friends there. the work can be hard on your body though. i would advise you wear good boots with a hard shell toe, a stack of coated work gloves, some water, and do not ever twist your back, do not pivot on your knees, do not ever lift heavy things with your lower back. survive there a year or so, you get good tier health and dental insurance. if you aren't good socially, don't fight people that piss you off. be kind, smile, laugh at a joke, make people comfortable when they interact with you. bow down like a good little slave to supervisors and management, do as they say when they want you to do something, and they will be lenient toward you and even give you preferential treatment, almost always.having a job these days seems like a blessing. i wish i could get paid more. but keeping things low stress, getting exercise through being physically active at work, having tremendous insurance, being able to pay some bills. This job, i really can't complain so much.
I'm 28 and have zero years of work experience. The guy in OP mogs me to the moon and back even though I come from a family of high earning white collar professionals. What do? I'm interested in engineering but my ideal program requires you to find co-op placements. I would always get great grades in school, but being an anxious shut-in type means interviews and networking utterly filters me
>>534795637Before 2008, and especially before the internet took off I could see it being okay. Especially if you worked at a best buy or a Sears and people came in to buy high end electronics or appliances, you could actually make a difference by educating them about the differences between various products. But for the past 15 or 20 years any customer who isn't a giga retard just googles all that before they go buy something anyway
It is about that time again.
>>534792414thanks for slaving away, wagecattle. couldn't have enjoyed a life of leasure without ya
>>534795426I did this but I was in New York City during Christmas time so it was the opposite of cozy. That shit was ran like the military out of the biggest warehouse I had seen in my life. Everyone was serious as fuck and I was basically thrown into it with no training so it was really stressful. That shit was too hardcore for me especially for how shit the pay was.
>>534792938dude im pissed, I got fired from chilis cuz of one fuck up.
>>534795730Jesus Christ bro>Stop being so Canadian/anxious>Move to any city on I-40 >sun your ballsThat simple
>>534795458I really hate working and am really thrifty and can fix anything>>534795569YeahI have around 200k liquid. A condo worth 100k and two properties in alaska with about 30k of vehicles between them. Just really lucky I guess.I cant handle working for people. Even when I work for myself I hate pricing my labor then dealing with customers it's just not worth it.My longest stints were where I mostly just chatted all day and did little work. Management >its all talking and ok.Mechanic>electrical specialist
Serious question but how are any of you doing okay on 70k a yr? I make 170k and am barely surviving but i live in shithole fag central bay area. Rent is 5.5k/month for 1300 sq ft 2bd 2ba. food is $1200 the electric bill is $350 and then i have about $3k in other expenses each month (car, insurance retirement gf etc).
>>534796521I cant get food stamps but qualify for medicaid at least until.2027 or whatever. Wife and kids are exempt. We've never been to the doctor thoufg since its a murder house.Food bank once a month. Hoping to hunt and fish more but tax stamps are pricey. Really just notnsure what to do Everything is expensive so maybe build a place out of scraps from.the dump I guess
>>534796521Incredibly based.
>>534796559You answered your own question lol.Rent a closet. Get free food and cook yourself. Drive a beater and find a GF who doesnt give a shit and marry her.At 170k just buy a property on the side in a tax haven like SC or AK or FL and build it up then bounce in a few years.
>>534795587retard high class bartenders provide social atmosphere and light company as well. not saying it's worth 2k in tips a night to me but to some lonely depressed richfags it is
>>534796743All work is prostitution and I haye its all anyone cares about.What do you do. How much do you make? You arent even a human anymore.As soon as I get that question I know I'm not speaking to a human.There is so much excess. I used to dump half a stores worth of food in the dumpster
>>534796559Why don't you move to one of the outer suburbs like Vallejo, Benecia, or Martinez?
>>534796916Those all sound like mexicans to me. Bad luck.
>>534796559>Rent is 5.5k/month for 1300 sq ft 2bd 2ba. food is $1200 the electric bill is $350 and then i have about $3k in other expenses each monthWhat the fuck is wrong with you.I'm paying $1000/mo for a 2bd1ba, food is maybe $200, electric is $50 in winter and other bills are maybe $300 (internet, phone, car insurance, renters insurance).I can live better than you for 1/5 the cost plus you pay way more taxes. What a cuck. Total sucker. You are single handedly feeding several rentseeking landlords / leeches and probably a couple families of invader parasites through taxpayer funded gibs.
>>534797432K but where do you live
>>534792414He lost weight good for him
>>534796559>Serious question but how are any of you doing okay on 70k a yr?I make $45k per year but I live in the Midwest in a metro area of 2.5-3 million people. I pay $850 per month for a tiny 750 square foot downtown 1 bedroom apartment. I spent about $300-400 on food per month. My car insurance is $50 per month. Basically my rent is exactly 1/3rd of after tax/after benefits take home pay, my car is paid off (used), I have no debts. Life is easy for the most part, my greatest expense is alcohol and drugs which ends up being a like 200-500 per month depending on how often I go to the barsIf I made 170k per year I'd be solidly upper middle class here with a 2500-3000 square foot McMansion in a nice neighborhood in the suburbs. That would also be enough money to where I could have a stay at home wife and put at least 2 kids through private school while saving for their college
>>534796843>retard high class bartenders provide social atmosphere and light company as well. not saying it's worth 2k in tips a night to me but to some lonely depressed richfags it isyeah I'm not doubting that, but he said his friend was a bartender at the airport in Philadelphia. That's hardly high class. Getting drinks at airports sucks. The bartenders are always extremely rushed, you aren't paying for the ambiance at the airport
>>534797432This, I have no idea how coastal fags do it. I get that San Francisco and NYC are cool places to live, and you'll likely meet more interesting people there, but beyond that it just doesn't seem worth it. Before I moved into this $850 per month apartment downtown, I was paying $1,050 per month for a downtown apartment and I felt like a colossal retard because it's the most I've ever paid for an apartment and it still kind of sucked
>>534795399That's for the line cooks to do, anon
>>534798092>I spent about $300-400 on food per monthhow
>>534798486Because I'm retarded and don't care about budgeting. I work 4 days a week, and most of those days I don't even bring a lunch, I'll go to this store next to my work and spend $8-10 on lunch. So, while it's not every day, I realistically spend like 100-200 bucks per month eating out at work instead of making sandwiches to take from home (or even just cheaper $3-4 frozen dinners). Also I go to the grocery store about once per week, I'll usually spend between $80 and $100. So realistically, I probably do spent more than 300 or 400 per month on food, but I was just thinking about my grocery trips. And of course, I am not including alcohol in this amount. Altogether I probably spend closer to 500 a month on food but again I am a giant retard and I'm also fat. If I shopped at Costco or Sam's Club and bought in bulk and meal-prepped all of my meals I could probably easily get my monthly food budget down to around 150 or 200 per month, but I know that'd be pretty boring. I might try to do it though, I want to try meal prepping soon to do keto and lose weight
>>534798092Also I should've added utilities. I spend $50 on internet, and between $30 and $100 on electricity depending on time of year. In the summer when I'm running a/c it's closer to $100 per month. And in the winter when I'm using gas for heat I spend around 100-120 per month on my gas bill, otherwise my gas bill is like 20-30 per month
>>534798172It sucks no one actually wants to live there but you cant get the kind of job you already do everywhere else. Its not really about pay or the city its that you spend over a decade or two in a specific industry doing a specific role and you cant find those jobs outside of these tech hubs.
>>534798860I think he meant how are you spending so little on food.
>>534798860Looks like rent/housing is by far your biggest expense though. All that money you spend represents your own time lost that you will never get back.
>>534794634I got the impressive career and it’s whatever man. Don’t stress it.
>>534792414Men used to feed two or three children, a dog or a cat, and a stay at home wife working these type of retail jobs. Lived in an apartment or owned a very tiny home, but there was no shame in working retail. It should and could still be that way but rightoid retards start screeching and throwing their feces whenever anyone says that we should raise minimum wage, and tax the wealthy to make it so. Ideally the guy in the OP should have moved into a management role and then regional management (or at least managing multiple stores), or a corporate office job or corporate management role. But hiring from within and working you way up the ladder doesn't happen anymore. Nowadays, if he wanted to remain as a working adult and not go to school, he'd need to get a business loan and open up his own store.
>>534798916>I think he meant how are you spending so little on food.Well, I am a single man, I'm not providing for a wife and kids. I also have no gf, so I'm not taking a girl out to dinner or spending money on feeding her at home either. Also I still have a good relationship with my parents, so I'll go have a home cooked meal with my mother and father once a week on one of my days off. So realistically that's at least 4 days per month I don't pay for my own dinner. They'll also give me various odds and ends sometimes>>534798950>Looks like rent/housing is by far your biggest expense though. All that money you spend represents your own time lost that you will never get back.yes but what choice do I have? I could move back in with my parents, but I'm in my mid-30s. Plus I'll inherit a significant amount of money from my parents when they die barring some kind of economic collapse. It's not like I make enough money to where living with my parents for a year or two would net me enough money for a sizeable down payment on a house. And even then, with interest rates they way they are, I'm not sure buying is even better than renting right now. I at least want my own apartment where I can jerk off in peace and pretend that I will bring women back to loudly fuck
>>534799169>Men used to feed two or three children, a dog or a cat, and a stay at home wife working these type of retail jobs. Lived in an apartment or owned a very tiny home, but there was no shame in working retail. It should and could still be that way but rightoid retards start screeching and throwing their feces whenever anyone says that we should raise minimum wage, and tax the wealthy to make it so.Dude, minimum wage was way lower when all of that was possible. Don't you understand that raising the minimum wage just means that business owners and the rentier class will raise prices too?Back in the 1960s minimum wage was like $1 per hour and that was enough to buy a small house or rent a normal apartment of the day and still save money for the future
>>534799464Nevermind I'm an idiot and replied to the wrong person. I meant to reply to the guy paying $5.5k / mo on rent.>>534796559^ this guy
>>534799500It's the same old song and dance with you allwe have laws for rent control and price gouging. Other western countries pay their low level workers a living minimum wage. At the least, adults should be able to live alone in a one bedrooms studio apartment, buy food clothes, and medicine, while making minimum wage, but we don't even have that. Stop falling for the lie that prices will increase they won't. McDonalds pay their workers $22 an hour in Denmark, their stores are fully staffed, and their Big Macs cost only ten cent more and McDonalds is as profitable as ever over there. Here in the U.S. they run the stores on a skeleton crew, are paying people $13 an hour, and our federal minimum wage is $7.25. Outside of NYC and LA we'd need federal minimum wage to be at least $20 an hour for a single adult to support themselves here.
>>534800424And don't even get me started on Walmart. They teach their employees how to apply for food stamps because they refuse to pay them a living wage.
i dont regret working jobs that I have. i regret not understanding the reality of the world and how 90% of jobs is just functionally commerce. with the other 10% being jobs that support commerce still. point being is that trade is big fucking business and what most the world lives and works for. which you dont want to end up a grunt. moving heavy shit. nor do you want something shitty like being a truck driver. I wish i would have gotten into engineering and robotics so i could get a comfy job repairing robots for the New World Order. it requires some skill and some IQ, but its not like being a rocket scientist, but ensuring the supply chain stays afloat means you would get paid well for this. its like what the fuck do you mean i have to choose what i want in life at 18?dont make my mistake anon. get a comfy engineering position that will pay you will for moderate skill moderate IQ.
>>534795730https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/RIASEC/https://www.onetonline.org/explore/interests/Investigative/Find a direction you want to go in, do the test, look for the option to look around at companies in that line of business and figure out what you need to do to get into that market. Everything starts with a direction or goal to with to
>>534800424>Stop falling for the lie that prices will increase they won't. McDonalds pay their workers $22 an hour in Denmark, their stores are fully staffed, and their Big Macs cost only ten cent more and McDonalds is as profitable as ever over there.You're undermining your own argument. There is no minimum wage in Denmark. And yet, they still pay their employees better than they pay them here in the US, where we do have minimum wage laws.I agree that wages for grunt-work jobs should be higher, I just don't think that legislating it is the best way to go about it. I also think it depends on the job. Sure, McDonalds workers probably deserve 20 bucks an hour. For a teenager who works at a car wash and his job is to hold a towel and dry off a car, I don't think they deserve that much, but in a minimum wage system, they end up getting paid the same amount
>>534794634It's definitely not a steady $2K per night for any tipped position in the service industry. But when there's been a lot of cancellations or delays, you bet your ass he's making bank.
>>534799500Federal minimum wage is still stuck at $7.25 per hour, and prices have still gone through the roof. Your argument against raising the wage floor is completely null.
>>534801156Most states don't have minimum wages that low. And even in states where it still is that low, like Kansas or Oklahoma, very few jobs even start at minimum wage. Kansas has minimum wage of 7.25 per hour, but most fast food jobs start at 12 or 13 per hour
>>534795587Every job in philly should pay that much in hazardous pay since you're constantly around niggers
>>534801156Stay in poopland ramjesh shitskins are a big reason everything is so expensive
>>534793002I just don't understand why investors would give low IQ jeets money in the first place.
>>534794943My health issues compounded and i just can't do a normal job anymore. Wasted all my saving trying to stay away from my crazy parents and now live on disability. Suicide is prolly gonna be my end tbqh senpai.
>>534795515Why would you not ask a customer out? Especially if you've never seen them in there before? If I'm making them a drink and we start chatting during it and I'm feeling like she was into me, I'd have to be a retard to not ask her out. The fuck do I have to lose?
>>534792938just made 500 off an easy 7 hour shift after splitting with 9 others on bar and tip out to the backs i used to make a grand a night but them dats and that job are gone
>>534802062Fecaloids cost a fraction of what humans or AI do, those executives are paid the same as a senior dev. We have one fecaloid head of technical sales in my jew daycare and not only is he paid less than me everybody knows he was promoted because of that and the fact that he was the worst sales guy. They are cheap diversity tokens like niggers but much weaker so there is no risk of a violent chimpout.
>>534794634My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
>>534792414I'm a supervisor at a high end dog boarding facility, our clientele is almost exclusively RICHfaga (some of these people have spent well over 100k boarding their dogs over the years).. I have no skills that qualify me for any real job and I'm making $30/hr in a low COL state. I've done this for 10 years now and while it's depressing to think about, I have 0 intentions on moving on.
>>534796888>What do you do. How much do you make? You arent even a human anymore.>As soon as I get that question I know I'm not speaking to a human.This. I fucking hate talking to boomers or other mouthbreathers, it's always the how is work going, what do you do for work, how's your retirement going, etc. Worthless niggers have one life and dedicate to being a wagecuck until 67 instead of spending more time with their family.
