>NNNNNNOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY!!!!1>GIVE IT TO ME INSTEAD!!!!!!1now i look pathetic for posting this on /pol/. the damn communists got me
>>534932738>You can't hoard $10 trillion for yourself without taking it away from everyone elseOnly Leftists view economics as a zero-sum game. I challenge any Leftist to explain where they think wealth originally came from if it can only be distributed and not created. When humanity was just cavemen banging rocks together there was no $10 trillion of wealth nor any amount. This had to be created. And if it can be created, then more can also be created without resorting to theft and redistribution in order for someone like Elon to hoard it.
>>534932738>>You can't hoard $10 trillion for yourself without taking it away from everyone elseplus he has nowhere near 10 trillion. and why don't leftists get pissed about people hitting a 1B lottery ticket? >oh HE deserves it because he picked the magic numbersfucking who cares
>>534932738I mean, they're not wrong. The economy IS a zero-sum game after all.
>>534933978lolbait. good job anon.
>>534932738Most of the money he gets comes from american tax payers lol. Leave it to an african to be the worlds biggest welfare queen lmao
It's literally imaginary money
>>534932738>what is geometrically expanding inflation?
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he doesn't do anything with the money
>>534932961Wealth is created by the worker and stolen by the warrior, ala Sparta. The ones who own the soldiers own the real wealth. For example, The CCP controls the Chinese military and just takes money from whoever they want (Jack Ma lmao). Another example is Company Towns in the US, which owned the police and was in bed with the state militia, allowing them to gun down the workers.There is no such thing as a free labour market, as if the rich get pissy enough they can just kill you.
>>534934228>he doesn't do anything with the moneyit's all tied up in investments. leftists were literally making fun of him when he couldn't come up with the 45B to buy twitter right away.
>>534932738>Noooo you cant have that much moneyThis but unironically.Resources are finite.If he gets 10 trillion that either means A) Everyone else has less moneyB) Extra money is digitally printed and everyone has less spending power because of inflation.
>>534934228He pays jeets to defend him online
>>534932961Wealth is what comes from better optimisation of using limited resources/space.It comes from better use of what we already have.If you disagree you're free to try and turn lead into gold.
>>534932738Low IQ thread
>>534934336how is this different from satoshi nakawhatever, who supposedly invented btc? his wallet is worth 10s of billions of dollars. is that making btc holders poorer? seems quite the opposite.
>>534934709hahahahhahahah this mf doesn't understand math
>he doesn't know it's all theoretical value
>>534934555>Low IQ threadi guess you're new here. engagement with threads depends on posts that are short and easy to digest. if i were to do thorough research and write a wall of text, maybe two people would respond.
>>534934786>hahahahhahahah this mf doesn't understand maththen explain it to me. i literally work as a numbers guy....
>>534934336>If he gets 10 trillion that either meansWEALTHISN'TCURRENCY
>>534934709Bitcoin is supply limited yesIf theres limited bitcoin that will ever be "mined/minted" the more one person has the less is avalible for everyone else.>but people are making money off itThe changing value of bitcoin compared to the users fiat currency is what they are "making money" from.
>>534932738Valuation isn't real financial value and Musk targeted neglected high-risk sectors which would fundamentally and absolutely result in certain ruination had he totally failed, but immense theoretical wealth if he even marginally succeeded.People who are angry are fucking morons.
>>534934290>Wealth is created by the worker and stolen by the warrior,What do you do for work? How much wealth did you create last week? Who stole it from you, and why didn't you attempt to do anything to stop them?>Company Towns in the US, which owned the police and was in bed with the state militia, allowing them to gun down the workers.How many times has that happened to you or someone you know?>>534934336>Resources are finite.Why do you suppose Elon managed to find the gigafactories that make Tesla cars and the spaceships and satellites to build Starlink and you didn't? Or did you actually discover those things and he stole them from you?
>>534932738Just to be clear, he doesn't have $10T in cash. Normies confirmed for retards who don't understand net worth.
>>534934987>Wealth isnt currencyCorrect wealth is the optimisation of finite resources/space.
>>534934998so if i buy 10B in amazon stock that means that everyone holding amazon stock will see their portfolios take a hit?
>>534932738pretty sure he's just talking shit, why tf would he really care about owning any particular amount of money when he has more than enough for 1000 lifetimes
>you have 1 million piece of [THING]>someone buys one piece of [THING] for 1 million dollars>your net worth is now 1 trillion dollars
>>534932738He should just give me 100 million dollars. That is like, 10 bucks to him but life changing to me.I am owed 100 million cash, and lots of sex with White debt tattoo-free virgins. This is literal fascism, fucking bullshit nazi chud won't give me free shit.
>>534932738Western leftist anti-white progressives and their kike masters have ruined the world. Not a single shred of beauty or joy remains in it. I have no prospects or hope in the future, there is nothing left for me in the remaining four or five decades of life other than to watch these bastards suffer and die. Not just any death, but to die screaming in as much pain and terror as possible. I want them to die in ways the human mind has yet to conceive. Every single sneering, smirking holier than thou American or Britroach virtue signalling godless leftist progressive who celebrates and supports immigration, shitskins, transsexuals, pedophiles, Muslims, groomers, feminists, the whole leftist kike ensemble.I am not rich by any means, I make about 10,000 dollars a month and have about a million in savings, but if I could give any part of it to make a liberal die painfully as possible I'd give it without hesitation. I want to pay for them and their children to be tortured on Liveleak like that ring of rich Westerners who paid Indonesians to torture baby monkeys for their amusement. I will dedicate the rest of my life and energies to this one objective, to hoarding enough wealth and resources to make this a reality. If I could pay for just one Judeo-Western leftist to suffer and die, meaning and happiness will be restored to my life once again
>>534935622Based
>>534935296No, the price of amazon stock will increase due to their being less of it avalible for others to buy.Amazon could create more stocks and that would decrease the value of your stocks.
>>534932738Money originates from the government. The government has to spend first, operationally, before anyone else has money to pay taxes with.
>>534934228There isn't any money, it's just a comparative valuation.
>>534935760Nah, money originates through book keeping through loans, very few governments issue credits anymore and are usually under heavy sanctions
>>534935733>Amazon could create more stocks and that would decrease the value of your stocks.we've gone off on a wild tangent here, but i think you're thinking of a stock split where your proportion of the company remains the same. yes, the value of the shares might go down, but it makes those shares more palatable to the overall market so it actually has the inverse effect in the value of your shares. in short>shares drop in value>you haven't lost any money because your proportion of ownership remains the same>but demand for the stocks increases so you're actually making money on the whole dealthat make sense?
>>534936312Yes it is too much of a tangent.The original point I was making is that wealth comes from the better use of the finite resources we have. Tangible things.Abstracting it to assets that can be created money and then bitcoin and then stocks just complicates explaining that ultimately you're limited by how much oil, copper, coal, silver, etc there is aswell as the space you have for regenerative resources like plants and animals.
>>534932738you know what's crazy to me is that money holds so much power that even the ADL is willing to defend the richest man in the world when he throws a roman salute. is money genuinely that undefeatable in nature? or is it that money also provides an easy means to silence dissenters?
Browns and trannies are inherently stupid.
>>534936593Thanks timmy for the high school level commentary. We appreciate your input, truly.
>>534936508>ultimately you're limited by how much oil, copper, coal, silver, etc there is aswell as the space you have for regenerative resources like plants and animals.i doubt elon having 10T would prevent me from being able to buy gas or prevent me from having my 1 acre garden and 30 acres of apples and cherries.
>>534936644he's not wrong though
>>534937055Yeah him getting to 10trillion probably isnt going to put you in abject poverty.You will have less spending power however.
>>534932738Pay you're workers enough to afford families and houses and nobody would fucking complain.But instead you pay everyone who isn't an email coordinator not even enough to ten an apartment by themselves.I don't give a shit how much money you have. Pay people enough to have a life and this groundswell of socialism dies.But you'll probably stripmine all value until your class gets wiped out.
if you let a tranny jew from africa take over your society by grifting tax credits and make you a slave he's not a good capitalist, you're just straight up retarded.
>>534937331at best he gets to 1.5T. then he dies and his kids spend it all on luxury items and vacations. most wealth is squandered in three generations. also, contrary to popular belief, most wealthy people are 'new money'.
>>534932738Hyperinflation will get him there, no worries.
>>534932738Yeah, $10 trillion is about $75,000 per American household. 50% of American households have less than $75,000 net worth. We could atomize Elon and bring millions out of poverty.
>>534938493The real issue is the lack of distributed productive assets. Most American households don't have adequate access to tooling or raw materials or land to produce goods.
>>534932738No one that poor than rich people are...they always want more.
>a reddit screenshot of a twatter screeshot of networth meme
>>534935095Elon's not going to fuck you, buddy.
>>534932738>*Glug glug glug*>Thank you daddy Elon>*Slurp*You deserve all the money, daddy>*Gags*>Thank you for hoarding money, you earned for being better than me>*Eyes well up*
more like>NNNNNNOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY!!!!1>GIVE IT TO MY TOWN SO WE CAN EFFECTIVELY FIX OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND CLEAN THE STREETS AND GIVE PEOPLE PRODUCTIVE BUT NON PROFITABLE JOBS INSTEAD!!!!!!1
>>534932738I hope the God raise him near to heaven just let him fall all way down.
>>534932961Wealth comes from the ground, duh.
I really couldn't give a fuck about billionaires. But Tesla evaluation is completely brain dead retarded. They're worth more than all the other car manufacturers combined and sell a microscopic amount and only have 3 models now.
>>534938976do you also get mad at tiger woods for being a billionaire or is sportsball skills the exception?
>>534934978The memeflag probably doesn't understand currency debasement or bitcoin and you are correct. All Elon has to do is sit on his (ass)ets and he will eventually have 10 trillion $.
>>534932738You CAN have that much money, can I have some too? :)
>>534932961I would strongly push back on this. Conservatives clearly share the same underlying assumption -- whether that is because they genuinely believe, or just because they would prefer to keep things as they are.But it is extremely obvious, once you understand how money works operationally, that the State can absolutely inject money and direct people who currently labor for other people (the existing rich) with that money to produce new, additional assets with their own labor. But of course, these new additional assets would exist alongside existing assets of the present rich and necessarily devalue them through the cold logic of supply and demand.And you wouldn't need any of the existing rich to pay for it -- because as you rightly point out (even if this isn't precisely what you meant), the government is never constrained by revenue. It doesn't need its own money from the population. It spends its own money unit into existence. It never needs to borrow.
>>534935095>where did elin get the blah blahLiterally tax payer subsidy...>but muh rockets Literally tax payer money.
>>534939389you're finally starting to understand, anon! there's a part of you that wants to recognize the unfairness in rewarding people with skills that make them valuable in their generation. surely, nothing is wrong with making someone who is skilled rich, the question is, do you really care about anyone other than them? if so, prove it. because you don't. and it's also fine if you finally come to the realization that you're nothing but a slave to people who are more skilled than you. but just remember, YOU are just as easily disposable.
>>534940282>slave>bootlicker>yada yada other memesomeone i don't even know gets filthy rich, tf should i care? like should george clooney give away all his money to the government? or whatever famous sports star? the government does fuck all with the money. they can't even fix the potholes in the roads. meanwhile>uhhhh if we stopped rich people from being rich then everything would be fineyou have a criminal mentality. you think other people's money should be yours.
>>534932738he will never have 10 trillion or even 1 trillion or even 500 billion or even 100 billion actual, real dollarsit's all speculative value of shares in his companies which are the next level of jewish funny money. if he sells them he reduces their value so he just sits on them and takes out a 0% interest loan against them and uses it to buy more shit.the stock market became completely decoupled from reality in 2008 when they started dumping helicopter money to keep it pumped. all value of everything has been decoupling from reality ever since the gold window was closed and money became fully and truly fiat toilet paper that only holds value because it's the only form of currency the US government accepts for taxes and fees.
>>534934336>Resources are finite.imaginary social constructs are infinitemonetary value is an imaginary social constructMarxists try to pretend imagination is objective and reality is subjective, then wonder why doing the opposite of stuff that works never works
>>534941584>uhhhh if we stopped rich people from being rich then everything would be finestrawmen, much? i just helping you realize that you matter as little to them as the people beneath you that you ignore. i don't have the answers, but i know you no ground to stand on when it comes to any issue of morality, if the only person you want to look for how is people who are skilled. who are you defending and who am i defending? >DUHH ONLY SMART, GOOD LOOKING, AND SKILLED PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE MONEY>YOU KNOW THE CURRENCY THAT KEEPS PEOPLE ALIVE>FUCK EVERYONE ELSEretard, i know what you are and what you're hiding from.you slave.
>>534942090>he will never have 10 trillion or even 1 trillion or even 500 billion or even 100 billion actual, real dollarsduhhh. you would be a retard to keep a billion dollars in the bank. say i owned 1k properties across the planet worth 1T, would you not say i'm a trillionaire? musk might hit the 1T or 1.5T mark, but him saying 10T must be a bit of trolling. also, these guys aren't stupid. they don't sell shares in bulk because they know it will tank the shares. they do it gradually and that's why ownership of shares it tracked.
>>534932738He is the antichrist
>>534932738Money is power. I do not care that he has money. I care how he uses it. He fucks everybody over. Therefore, he should have far less money so he can cause far less chaos. People dont hate the rich because they’re rich, but because they’re assholes.
>>534943104>you matter as little to them as the people beneath you that you ignore.why do you want people that you don't know to care about you? i only want friends and family to care about me. meanwhile you want some billionaire probably 1k miles away from you to care about you? do you want every stranger you pass on the street to 'care' about you? female thinking. meanwhile, basically every business elon musk has started is based on saving the environment (aka caring for you). plus, how much money is too much? surely people with millions should be taxed into oblivion. maybe 100k is too much?
>>534932738EVEN IF THERE IS NO GODAND NO OMNIPOTENCEYOU STILL LOSE KIKESALL INCLUDING YOUWILL BE HAPPY AND GOODYAAAAAAAAY
>>534932961It IS a zero sum game dipshit.
>>534932961How much money do you make. Be honest. I’m guessing under 50k
>>534932961>high and mighty migger>actually retardedkek no further argument is necessary
>>534934331>leftistJust call them jews
>>534932738it's fake money (until he actually start buying up land) and him hoarding it may actually help mitigate the inflation that would result from gifting it to stupid niggers and women instead
>>534944080>How much money do you make. Be honest. I’m guessing under 50knot him, buti make 90k and have plenty of leisure time to fish and work on my cars and tractors. i have no clue what my 401k is worth. i don't give a shit how much elon musk is worth. if he is doing well, then good for him.
>>534943931>It IS a zero sum game dipshit.Explain. Respond to the entirety of my post and refute the points I made.Pro-Tip: you can't. You're also a 1pbtid so probably a spambot or a shill kike. That's why you can't give a coherent response.
>>534944166Another (((1PBTID))) who cannot refute the post.
>>534943875thank you for confirming to me that you only care about those close to you (if you actually do, be real with yourself! lol) and those who are rich.when you see pictures of two black hanging from trees and a bunch of white people standing around them like it's another saturday-get-together your mind thinks "That is normal, and who I aspire to be. Those white people are human."be more open with who you really are in person and see where it gets you. or keep your mask on continue being the slave you were meant to be.
>>534932738Leftoids really do believe that rich people are all Scrooge McDuck, swimming around in a vault of gold coins, don't they? But even that doesn't make sense. If someone WAS hoarding cash, that would actually make the cash that poor people have in their pockets (no matter how little it was) more valuable. Is all leftoid policy based on profound economics-incomprehension? Elon Musk's net worth is more akin to a video game score, or perhaps how much industry decision-making power he has, than it is to actual wealth. WTF.
>>534932961this is correct, and causing much seethe lol.If you don't know how our money is made or what it ACTUALLY is, you should watch this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLVHbY66ioA
>>534946916>Is all leftoid policy based on profound economics-incomprehension?always has beenRudyard Kipling documented it a century ago when the only example was the OG Soviet Union
>>534932738>NNNNNNOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT MUCH OIL!!!!1>GIVE IT TO ME INSTEAD!!!!!!1now i look pathetic for posting this on /pol/. the damn capitalists got me
>>534932961It's more accurate to say that wealth is discovered, not created. People discover more efficient ways to make use of the planet's resources, and that's called "creating wealth". But that wealth doesn't just come from nowhere. It requires inputs, the biggest one being energy. $10T didn't exist in the caveman days, because the only energy available to the cavemen was that of their own bodies. The industrial revolution came with an explosion in "wealth created", meaning people figured out how to utilize fossil fuels to do work. Energy availability has been the determining factor for the total amount of "wealth" on the planet, and if, for whatever reason, access to energy were to become more limited, "wealth" would disappear.Unless there is some breakthrough in asteroid mining or cold fusion technology, that $10T is going to have to come from somewhere else.
>>534932961also he's just shitposting to bait the libs
>>534932961That would include the sometimes leftist tech billionaires/trillionaires that have spun our entire economy around the idea of replacing everyone with Indians and Indian-powered computers, impoverishing them.
>>534933978There is not a limited amount of money in a fiat currency system, anon.
>>534932738>MoneyIt doesn't exist. If you are going to start taxing people on their standing assets the government is going to need to guarantee the value of those assets.
