DIY culture is a sign there is something wrong with your economy.
>>535236242i prefer to burn out my power board of my home , its cheaper than to pay a nigger and change the entire wiring of the appartment.also DIE??? isnt that too much? electricity isnt dangerous just use insulating gloves while working with it
>>535236242>oy vey goyim you cant do anything by yourself you need to rely on (((experts))) for everything
>>535236242If we can get more people DIYing we effectively get more electricians in the economy for cheap. Some of them may die, yet that is a risk society is willing to take.
>>535236387It’s DIE or DEI, either way you are fucked
I was born in the 70s when the economy was a lot better and my dad fixed absolutely everything himself.
>>535236387How is someone this stupid still alive. Oh yeah idiot, I highly recommend your full proof method on electricity
>>535236242I replaced all the rocker switches in my house with modern toggle ones and electricians on plebbit told me I would die because I was back stabbing the ground.
>>535236242Why would I pay a drunk loser to do inferior work?
>>535236242>turn off power to houseOh no, people might miraculous survive. Tradesman aren't worth the money and are likely to do a shit job. At least if someone does a shit job themselves they didn't pay someone to do it.
>>535236242I'll pass, jew. if I can't fix it myself then I'm sure as shit not paying some faggot that's going to charge me excessive rates
>>535236242>typed the guys doing a perpetual DIY Apocalypse
>>535236555Exactly
Blue collars are the vegan cyclists of the work forceGo onto any welding, plumbing, wiring "how to" video and the comment section will be nothing but tradies stating what they did wrong, how to "really" do it, asking retarded "edge case" questions, etc. They are the most insufferable people on the planetTheir personalities match up 1:1 with elitist cyclists
>>535236387better yet, just use a tester to make sure you cut all the power
>>535236622> Go onto any welding, plumbing, wiring "how to" video and the comment section will be nothing but tradies stating what they did wrong, how to "really" do it, asking retarded "edge case" questions, etc. They are the most insufferable people on the planet. Like no shit. Every single profession is full of gatekeeping fart sniffers.
>>535236390Was about to post something like this
>>535236242Yeah, economies run great when people are too lazy/stupid to do anything for themselves. That's the number one thing driving innovation: lazy stupidity. Even if I accepted your premise... YES THE ECONOMY IS FUCKED SO I WILL DO SHIT FOR MYSELF INSTEAD OF PAYING SOME NIGGER TO DO IT WRONG ANYWAY. What am I supposed to do about it?
>>535236528I hate reddit. Backstabs suck but works good enough. I use Wago instead of wirenuts too. Same shit, I think superior to all of it.Check them out. Also Liquid Insulator is godly.
>>535236242Paying labor takes taxes and profit. You oay a company only 1 third goes to labor. So if you want to hire an hour of labor you have to work 3 hours.All assuming average wages. If your wage is below average and the labor you want is above average, this is even stronger.
>>535236631Sorry bro, instead of paying $5 for a tester, you have to pay $150 to someone to use a $5 tester.
>>535236242kek trade niggers so mad DIYers are increasingly bypassing them
>>535236242Even if DIYing it's trivially easy to stay safe. Shut off power at the breaker, use insulated gloves/tools, get a cheap voltage tester. At that point you can't possibly hurt yourself.
bros im working on building a van right now and im lowkey afraid of the 12v electric system wat nou?
>>535236242Yeah go ahead and pay some stranger to come into your house to switch a breaker off... Go ahead
>>535236622Correct. Did my own roof with my friends for a case of beer. Better than hiring some drunk ass loser with multiple criminal convictions.
>>535236756>see nothing is really wrong with our economy. Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.
>>535236242>1btidWhy?
>>535236723Shit isn't even that difficult. These bags just want to feel important, like they have some super Saiyan skill.
I feel like if you just throw the relevant breaker and confirm the wires in question aren't live with a multimeter it's pretty hard to electrocute yourself unless you're doing something crazy
>>535236242Hahahahahaha sorry I'm just going to do it ( DIY) aughh! I know I know but I'm still going to do it (DIY) hahahahaha
>>535236845It should be 24V if you are in the arctic.
>>535236242Paying to fix something that you can fix yourself is a sign there is something wrong with your culture.
>>535236390This.
>>535236845Don't touch the wet ground barefoot while holding the positive and negative wires or posts and you'll be fine.
>>535236242Like what the other anon said. If everyone was an electrician. Nobody would need to spend their time doing this work for others.... is that not a productivity increase?
>>535236387>electricity isnt dangerousI've seen it set a house on fire because 220v crossed wires. Burned down the house. Anything ya dangerous if you're retarded enough.Smart and capable people just so it themselves without issue. This message wouldn't be for people who knew they can do it on their own
>>535236402>>535236475These.The house I grew up in was on a well and disposed of sewage in a septic tank. My parents replaced the well in 1998 for $10k and it was still going strong when they moved out in 2019. My dad helped dig the septic tank for free with my grandfather when he was a kid in the 1960s and it was still working too when they left.In 2015, local government passed an ordinance banning the digging of any new wells and requiring hookup to the city sewer once your well/septic reached the end of life. The cost for this hookup? $75,000.
>>535236873Ummmm, do you have a master's degree in bootstrapping? Didn't think so. Better leave this stuff to the professionals, kiddo, we wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I've seen some amateurs PUSHING bootstraps, you don't even wanna know what happened to them.
>>535237073I knew it, you idiots will embrace the decline.
>>535236242The death of DIY is the effeminatization of the species.
>>535236242Turn off the main, and don't touch that hot wire coming in from outside and you're good to go.
>>535236889all my batteries are inside and should be warm 24/7. but ill look into it >>535236926uh oh >>535236475yes anecdotally ive been to many places and overall so many people have stories of just "my dad fixed it" with little to no knowledge its fucking insane. It weirdly feels so unlikely in current year- even with youtube knowledge sharing
>>535236242>Try to be an electrician.>Die.Just keep one hand in your pocket.Problem solved!
>>535236242I like at every DIY endeavor as SHTF training. Not going to stop.
>>535236242That's the only thing I would use a homo electrician for. All the tradies in my country are gay. Most other things you can fix yourself.
>>535236242I never heard such utter nonsense in my life and Im on this board since 2008.Bravo nigger. Bravo
>>535236845>im lowkey afraid of the 12v electric systemWhy? What are you afraid will happen, anon?
I built an entire 60sqm (606 sqft) covered terrace myself. I wired it, roofed it, finished it, and built the string lighting all by hand, and I haven't done any kind of construction work since I was a teenager.It's better quality than anything I'd have gotten done by any of the locals, and it's held up perfectly with zero signs of stress through multiple storms with hurricane force winds.Fuck these retards.If anyone wants, I'll go take a picture.
>>535236242I was electrocuted as a kid and didn't die.
>>535237181>so many people have stories of just "my dad fixed it"Once upon a time, knowledge was passed down from generation to generation. Also, men had initiative to set and seek out goals. Nowadays the initiative is systematically burned out in school (do exactly what teacher says, don't ask questions or else) and the boomers decided passing down knowledge was cheating.
>>535236242I repair in ground sprinkler systems and I've never seen a well done diy job. Youtube tutorials are life savers for diy projects
>>535237323>If anyone wants, I'll go take a picture.Yes please
>>535237250never built anything electric at all before is all - it's challenging with a lot of different elements to consider watts, amps current and volts are a lot to deal with desu. I should be fine but during this process i bought solar panels which had a higher output than the mppt i have accidentally, shit like that
>>535236242Just shut off the breaker and use a voltmeter to check before you go messing with stuff.I've replaced two lighting fixtures and three wall sockets all by myself. Plus fixed several electric appliances.If the water heater goes ill likely call someone, unless it's just the heating coil. Which I can check with my voltmeter. Oh and two wall heaters, fixed those too.Gas now....Gas is a different animal. I don't have any gas appliances, but when you fix electrical stuff the electricity is gone in an instant when you shut it off, gas lingers in the pipes and such. Better to be safe than sorry with gas stuff. Electrical though... pfft, childs play.Plus it's always fun to have that bit of tension after rewiring or installing something right before you turn the breaker back on.
>>535237337Then by definition, you weren't electrocuted >>535237492Well no shit, you only get called to fix the midwits' fuckups. Nobody pays a professional to come out and marvel at their handiwork
>>535237582Gas isn't that bad though because residential pressure is so low. At least here 2PSI is max for residential, the average house is 7-14" WC so 1/4 to 1/2 PSI. The biggest issue with gas is CO and venting, then checking all connections for potential micro leaks.
>>535237566You'll be fine. If in doubt, err on the side of caution.
>>535237456A lot of "older generation" men I know (not all) were essentially renaissance men, with little formal education I know a guy who bought a block of land and set up a hydro turbine in the creek on the land which powered everything from an old washing machine motor. Zero formal education but he just "figured it out"
>>535237582For electricity it really depends. Electronic components in particular can be tricky and if you don't know exactly what you're doing, stuff like inductors will kill you even if unplugged.
>>535236242Or you could turn off the breakers before fucking around with electrical shit.
>>535236387Trade fags are the first to cheer when AI replace office workers - their loyal customers. Now those customers don't have money to hire anymore and start diy. I'm sorry you can't comprehend supply and demand. AI is here to stay, adapt or die.
>>535236242There are very few wires in my fuse box that I haven't replaced.
>>535237957I dont think I need to deal with inductors in my home. And even if I did, please refer to my aforementioned use of a voltmeter before beginning any repairs.
>>535238243The old wires had asbestos sheaths (mostly) some had real thin ground. No alunimum. The asbestos covered ones didn't even have a ground wire. It think I'm safer with them gone.
>>535236242thisI was eating my daily bugs last night when my pod neighbor got a notice his night light would be disconnected for two days because he moved slightly when the pod injection activated after he sneezed and couldn't inject the AIDS properly into his body. He then obtained an illegal screwdriver made of one human teeth and a pieces of hair and nails and and tried to tamper with the pod to get the light back. A drone came in three seconds and shot him and then his pod exploded. All this happened five minutes ago. Bless the Jews, my pod was unscathed and I still have bugs and night light allowance in case I want to disconnect the masturbation machine or stop watching harry potter while on fentanyl. SCIENCE and FREEDOM, what a gift we received. have a great day fellow goys and never tamper with your pod.
>>535238130WHo do you think builds the data centers
>>535237525I'm too lazy to go outside of the house, but the roof is immaculate. My wife made the curtains from waterproofed canvas, and I installed the steel piping for rails.To my credit, I grew up building houses on my father's crew in Georgia before the housing market crash. Joined the army, married a foreigner, and ended up here in the end.
>>535238453in case nobody else says it:based
I'm a specialist carpenter/timberframer and i say go for it. Nothing wrong with new blood. Learn something. Become more competent and capable. Improve. Besides, i just don't like hanging outbwirh people who for all their life have only ever know sitting behind a desk and don't actually know how to do things in the real world. My work is very specialized and takes a lot of networking, connections, and supply logistics to even get a foot in the door so i feel perfectly secure. I can only really see the sort of guy who's making a mint charging rubes with more money than sense through the nose to do shit anyone could with minimal effort like running some pex and not even patching up the drywall getting particularly upset over this.
>>535236387>electricity isnt dangerous
>>535236242I'm an electrician, I'd rather do my own electrical work than pay the retards that they pass as electricians.
90% of DIY regarding eletric stuff at home that the average joe can be teached to them in like 1h. Changing a socket or a circuit breaker that broke down isnt rocket science. Shit becomes dangerous really fast however when you start laying cables and arent aware of the maximum cable length, type of wall you are putting them in, average temperature, cable length, which type pf cable to use (inside/outside) or which type and size of the circuit breakers to use. You arent able to test wether your RCD and circuits are functioning properly either as a laymen with just a voltmeter.
Oi, you got a loicense to remove that coverly plate on dose power holes gov?
>>535236242And let some rapist in my home. No thank you.
>>535236387>electricity isnt dangerousFlag checks out.
>>535236242jewish mindset
>>535236242>dying from touching 120v I wish this meme would end
>>535236242Fuck tradies. They don't want people fixing things themselves out of pure greed. After all, if everyone fixes their own stuff, then how is the poor tradie supposed to feed his family!?!?!?
>>535236242i diy everything except electrical stuffyou don't mess with electricity
>>535236242I melted a screwdriver with 120 ACV once , wear gloves and protective glasses that shit is wild
>>535239052Na electricity is simple. Now plumbing fuck that im not dealing with water damage.
>>535238979Everything is running against DIY because it eliminates profits. Auto industry is making it impossible to repair your own shit. Now you need a OEM scan tool to even install a car battery in some of the newer cars. Brakes? Scan tool. Even the mechanics don't want to work on the new shit anymore.People should blacklist everything anti-DIY. DIY breeds the indepedent mindset, which is corrosive to the jewish agenda.
>>535237182this, and always tap a mains box you are not familiar with with the back of your hand before you open it, if you get shocked you will pull your hand in towards your body instead of locking onto it.
I started doing my own shit because even completely clueless at least this way I know it's being done right. These assholes charge $150 just to halfass some shit and they don't even fix the problem, might even make it worse.
Plumber anon, here. A great percentage of my middle aged customer's are fag flag waving yahoos that couldn't DIY anything besides interior painting. Their favorite power tools are Ryobi and mostly just for lawn care. Younger customers ask the AIs and end up jamming their sinks/tub full of baking soda and vinegar when they could have just plunged it. The rare older male customer would fix themselves but they're too old. They're generally pretty chill. Thank you for your attention to this very important matter.
>>535239184>Even the mechanics don't want to work on the new shit anymore.Well yeah, the software licenses for cars are a fucking nightmare.
Shut the power off before hand and make sure you have tight connections. Not hard.
>>535239450>Their favorite power tools are RyobiSo it's not just my father.
>>535236242If you make sure to turn off the breakers and wear thick rubber gloves, you will have a really good chance of not dying
>>535236242retarded low-iq take
>>535236242>posted by a retard fatso who mangled his hand trying to hit a nail with the hammerSorry fagot not everyone around is incompetent imbecile like you.
>>535236242I mean, my breaker box is somehow fried or I have water damage and crackling/power issues in the rain? I'm not fucking with that even if codes would allow it. It just isn't worth the multiple long-term risks or legal issues. An outlet or light switch blows? I'll track the issue with probes and visual inspection after cutting the circuit and ensuring there is no obvious fire risk before reactivating, then just to be as safe as possible I'll put on some heavily insulated industrial-quality gloves from work and probe any sketchy lines. The premise that randoms should just do everything after watching a youtube video is retarded. Even after cutting power to what I'm positive is the line in question, I probe the outlet or switch and entirely remove the breaker for that room and still glove up and never get silly and fuck around with the positive and negative at once, or forget that ground wires exist for a reason. You think India is the thriving golden age civilization it is because the average person has common sense?
>>535239174Most common plumbing issues are very DIYable >changing a shower valve cartridge >unclogging a bathroom sink, shower or toilet >rebuilding a toilet a tank Call us when there's shit backing up into your basement or a major plumbing appliance dies. If you use those sharkbite fittings to adapt copper to PEX make sure you debur the copper or it will leak and don't use them behind finished walls. Soldering isn't rocket science though.
>>535236955I once moved in with my mother in law because her health was slipping. I told her repeatedly to stop chaining extension splitters to power 20 things. She didn't listen, we smell smoke one day while she's at a friend's place, the fucking outlet had caught fire and scorched the wall going up about 3 feet. I cut all of the extension cords and threw them out, explained how dangerous that is, replaced the outlet after checking the wires.Next day? She dug them out of the trash and electrical taped them together before hooking it up same as before. Guess what happened to make me discover this. This place was already rigged up. The fridge, oven, half the living room including an AC unit, all of her bedroom including a tv, another AC unit, like a dozen assorted things, same fucking circuit.
They are too expensive. If I need help I get a handy man and pay him cash. A tradesman starts at $200 just in the call out fee. Add another $200 per hour.
>>535239174I once had to replumb our entire house after an ice storm and replace 3 light switches and two shorted outlets in 2 weeks. Plumbing is far safer and easier to handle.
>>535236242it was fun hanging out fixing cars and building shit with the guys. women killed it when they asked to come along
>>535236242Go fuck yourself.I can do everything.No you subhuman trash phone screen repairers aren't worth a single cent.
>>535239450The autist in me wants Hilti, but i just end up with dewalt (i.e. black and decker)
>>535236242Currency must be sound money.
>>535236242Lineman is one of the most over glazed professions in the fucking trades.People act like they are literal savant heroes out there fighting off the hordes of Hell as they ride their little buckets up to power lines.It's not even as dangerous as many other professions as long as you have a luke-warm IQ.
>>535236242It depends on what's being DIY'd to be fair. America was strongest when a lot of things were DIY. But yeah, electric isn't a DIY affair at all.
>>535240242Helicopter lineman is pretty cool tho.
>>535237582Water heater is easy.Replaced and relocated mine myself, had to run new copper lines I soldered myself as well.Didnt have to see pointless shit like an expansion tank that a plumber would force on me either.Working perfectly fine with zero leaks for the past 8 years.Literally just watch YouTube videos if you can't figure anything out yourself.Crawling under a house with a low crawlspace is a pain in the ass though.
>>535240150Most of my battery powered tools are 12 volt milwaukee simply because they're the smallest overall footprint but I'm not pic related about it like some fags. 18 volt tools for service plumbing is overkill and too bulky when you consider all the other tools you need on every job.
>>535236242just wear shoes with rubber feet. it insulates you from the ground and you're safe. big electric doesnt want you to know this.
>>535239450Hey don't shit on Ryobi, their basic tools are perfectly serviceable for most home repairs
>>535236390yeah, you should be able to fix your shit to some point, but also, is a wise feature to know your limits, have that in mind (you niggers)
Can anyone do x tradesman task? yes, more or less, if you have a decent IQ to understand how things work and watch some instructional videos, it's all doable if you have the right tools.Realistically, are normgroid cattle capable of doing x tradesman task properly? lol lmao evenThe DIY shit I see is fucking insane, maybe only 1/10 DIY jobs are done to any kind of reasonable standard. I don't think the state should mandate any work being done on your own house by licenced tradesmen, but you should absofuckinglutely have to disclose that shit to your insurance company and future buyers.
>>535236387>just use insulating gloves while working with ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hpE5LYj-CY&t=30
tradies are dispensable cattle
>>535239174I replaced my well pump, and all the pipes. Most of the lectricity and re roofed my garage plus the bathroom to the studs moved all the toilet tub and sink and floor replaced floor kitchen down to the studs rewired range moved all plumbing and addef dishwasher. Fuck. Redid the upstairs and built a deck. My ex wife wanted horses. The only place we could afford with some acres was built on 1927. Need to replace drop ceilings and blow on insulation replace a few more wires and refonish wooden floor. Aheesh and it needs siding and windows. Fuckin money pit. And time..
>>535240504love love love the 12v milwaukee stuff. the 12v drill is bonkers, a real wrist snapper in such a tiny package. I don't think this shit will last though after looking at the teardowns.
>>535239842Fuck you and your wax rings though, there has been better shit than that for years
>>535236242>die>save bullshit consultation fees>never have to read OP again
>>535236242yes, and not DIYing is not going to fix it retard
>>535240377Yeah, but the actual impressive person behind that job is the pilot, the sparkyfag is just along for the rideAt least there is actual danger involved there
>>535236242You niggers charged me $300 to install a new outletGo fuck yourselves
>>535236490>woaw how is he alive after doing simple house wiring? Maybe because he's right and you are a nervous nelly
>>535236242>DIY culture is a sign there is something wrong with your economy.I do everything myself and it's better work then the so called professionals
>>535238451Robots and AI build them. The machines are taking over, Terminator was a documentary
When I stayed in Mexico it was amazing. You could actually pay electricians and veterinarians to do things for you for very little money.
>>535236242I'll pay a tradesman when I have another job that pays more than a tradesman. What so I look like, a boomer with infinity wealth?
>>535240714boomers want you to tip because they feel guilty as all hell
>>535236387Don't trust this argensimian, electricity IS dangerous. Anything above 50/60 volts is already a fucking hazard (look it up, mother fuckers). Everybody mocking this nigger is absolutely correct. One must not be a pussy but there's a limit.
>>535240504Agree 18v is overkill for lots of stuff, prolly why most end up with ryobi. I do a lot of automotive and diesel, so team yellow is good for the higher torque applications when I don't have air handy.
>>535240779It's only as dangerous as a loaded gun or unsheathed blade.
>>535240609Okay? Rubber rings can leak when you plunge a blockage beyond the porcelain just as easily as wax. Both will last for decades.It literally does not matter.
>>535240651I suppose, sparky gotta learn how to rig hos tools right on the skid and be part of the circuit too. Couple steps above be a bucket rider in the cherry picker.
>>535240762Nah, tipping is based
>>535236955Lol. That's an extreme case of negligence. It's more likely to crash car than to fuck up wiring.
>>535236242pay a tradesman, so he can sends over a smelly muslim that mess up the job. and taking all the perfectly fine expensive parts that they replaced with toxic trash, (or not replaced at all). end up redoing everything DIY, paying additional costs.
>>535236242>>535236387>>535236390>>535236402>>535236440>Pay money to some jewi don't think i will
>>535236804Wago all the way, braheem. Love em.
>>535236242True. Advanced economies pay white collar professionals multiples what blue collar tradesmen earn so they can afford to hire tradies.Like a medical doctor in America has no reason to climb on his roof to fix something.Here in Latvia after 10 years of university plus training a medical doctor makes like $40k a year so he can't afford to pay tradesmen and everyone in the whole country does everything themselves from yard work to bathroom tile work to roof work. Half the people build their own home from foundation to electrical to finishing.
>>535240779I think I agree. For a lot of people is not a big deal but powerful things have a disastrous potential
>>535236242I don't get it. I just go to the breaker box and flip off whichever circuit I'm working on. If I can't find the circuit I flip them all off if there's no power to anything what's the risk? I fuck up somehow the breakers will flip no harm no foul
>>535240819Heheheheh i'm retarded, that message: >>535241264was meant for you
>>535241336>I just go to the breaker boxWouldn't you rather get dim sum, Mr. Chan? Touching those controls is low status.
>>535236242Fun story My grandpa used to shove pennies into the fuse receptacles in the breaker box (older round screw-in fuses) My dad was an electrician and he couldn’t sleep when we stayed there. Amazingly nothing ever happened The house is still thereMy dad offered to rewire the place many times but grandpa said no thanks a dozen times. Fools and innocents, I guess
>>535236242I think it is a gen-x thing, as they grew up with no one to depend on, and with the politician agenda to displace the middle class, there will be those that know, and those that have no fucking idea, which will pay dearly.
>>535240660In today's American economy you should make $300 an hour. If you don't then you're poor and poor people can't afford to hire other people to do work for them.
>>535241406Yeah dim sum is great but I'm not going to hire an electrician for something that takes me half an hour. Ceiling fans, outdoor lights, smoke detectors, outlets, etc. Breakers off, means no power. You can test it with a voltmeter and wear insulated gloves if you're still paranoid. For whatever it is worth, I do think electrical work is more dangerous in Europe at 240V but I miss living there an electric kettle boils water in no time
>>535237957I think you mean capacitators, and not inductors.
>>535236242Seventy years ago DIY was just men being men.
>>535236242https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBR0oNp9A7c>DIY culture is a sign there is something wrong with your economy.Tradefags think I should pay them based off their "experience" when it takes them a couple minutes to fix something. They are fucking degenerates and that is why they have a poor relationship with the public. I mean the greasy mechanic that overcharges you thousands of dollars for blinker fluid is a common running theme and meme. I figure the other trAIDS are no different. I'd rather do it myself at that point, hire a cheap beaner/mudhut villager or go without basic services. I shouldn't expect to be financially ruined for some basic maintenance and repair services. I'd rather put duct tape on that shit and move on with my life.
>>535240673Same. Professionals over here are on a par with this cat.
>>535236242You know, for someone trying to say that sons become their fathers later in life, you really messed up by not putting me in the police. I would've been a better cop than my father was.
>>535236242>Pay a tradesmanNot if they keep acting like picrel. They can kiss my fucking ass.
>>535236242Only a faggot would invite a man into his house to do a basic household task.Teach yourself if you don't know how, you can even use Youtube these days.
>>535236242>DIY culture is a sign there is something wrong with your economy.It's a sign that tradefags are only affordable for wealthy kikes and industry.
>>535241583Damn, this thing happens to me when i visit my parents. My dad uses fucking extension cords and tape for everything and i hate it, but i've learn to respect his (bad) decisions
>>535236242Thanks to Bunnings, where no questions are asked, when buying licensed trade specific items.Next project is to replace ancient toilet with a back-to-wall, and relocate the copper plumbing away from the toilet center-line, in a double brick wall.
>>535236387No, electricity is super duper dangerous. One time, I tried removing a light fixture without shutting off the power first and my dick flew off and exploded. Please learn from my mistake, bros...
>>535236845The only way you can kill yourself with 12v is if you shove the wires directly into your body so it makes contact with your blood, and even then it would only potentially fuck with your heart rhythm. Supposedly some Navy retard managed to kill himself with a 9v battery by shoving the ends of a multimeter into his fingers to "measure his body's resistance" and it caused a cardiac arrhythmia and he was found dead several hours later
>>535240569You are correct to be scared of electricity especially if you aren't an electrician but I don't think industrial arc flashes are a concern for the average home. That's industrial level so 440V or higher.
>>535236242Being a DIY electrcian is merely being a top tier welder
>>535236845Negative off firstNegative on lastTape the negative end up Insulate your wrench or ratchet with electrical tape when you go to remove or install the batteryDo all that and it'll take some kind of retard miracle for you to injure yourself
>>535236242AI helped me wire up several things on my own at this point. just walking me through it and requesting photos and model #s I did two light fixtures, two wall sockets and installed an exterior outlet
>>535236845I once shocked myself with an uninsulated alternator while testing my ignition. 12V is literally nothing and you'll be fine.
>>535240701The thing with Mexico is that the parts they need are cheap, most of the cost of electricians comes from the materials.
>>535242233Flew off and then exploded, a cautionary tale indeed.
>>535238453You need a permit to do this in burgerland :/I can't even build a fence without getting the state's permission.>>535242372And now I'm forced to be a tranny ToT
>>535242243I shocked myself with a 12V battery back when cars had diagnostics ports you jumped pins with. The wire (paper clip) burned my fingers hurt a little after made me jump though.
>>535238453Very well done.
>>535236242Retards don't know to turn the water or power off at the mains and end up fucking things up. Not doing DIY is only a message for retards.
I started by ripping apart early PC's and VCR's. Worked in industrial food appliance repair for a few years, worked in electrical, worked in sheet metal. Self taught electronics, networking, CAD software, programming. Now I'm a low voltage tech/programmer making $140k/yr working 4 hours per day troubleshooting basic device issues and simple IO logic programming errors. Legit just go buy an Arduino kit. The basics get you $40/hr if you're not retarded and know how to leverage. Don't be a pussy, open shit up and don't be afraid to break it.
>>535240150>>535239450I like Kobalt because my favorite color is blue, which makes them the best brand.
>>535242243>>535242511One time, when I was a kid, I shoved a bare copper wire into both slots of a 120V outlet and the shock burned me pretty badly because it wasn't connected to the breaker properly. I still have the scars on my finger tips, but the electricity didn't really do anything to me.
>>535236242that screwdriver is black, that's why it'll kill you
>>535242641>Worked in industrial food appliance repairwhats the worst and or nastiest machine you had to work on?
>just be completely useless goy. Don't be an actual man who can build and fix things.
Don't fuck around with high voltage unless you absolutely know your shit
>>535242641This guy is right. I own a low voltage company that designs theaters, AV system automation, and recording studios. I average $3 mil in sales and about $600k profit.Programmers make bank. Crestron. Control4 etc.Easy as fuck to learn if you’re not retarded.
>>535236242Any male that can't install circuit beakers and romex should die.
>>535242877I did some pretty nasty kitchen installs with 2"+ of grease caked on everything. You had to chip it away to install tension cabling for the suppression systems. Hobart 140qt mixers were a motherfucker. We manufactured these huge ovens that rotated on gears to pump out 400 loafs of bread per hour. Sometimes got custom fab gigs to make large carriage tray ovens that would melt sheets and sink them into hot tub molds. Did a cremation oven also. One time I had to climb into a warm oven to run a drill through burner tubes to clean soot. Was super sweaty and gross. It was a Jewish bakery. So when I came out the sweat had rinsed most of my face but left this beautiful black pencil moustache. I had no idea but they were fucking pissed. I also take care of a lot of grain terminals with giant rodents, fish food factories with caked on dust everywhere, chicken processing plants where the air burns your nostrils like acid. Homeless shelters where you push a pile of laundry over and a few needles fall out. But you also get cool shit like disease research labs or test facilities with 30ft tesla coils.
>>535243074Probably with a staff of what, 5-8? Making insane margins my man. Great job.
>>535243120gnarly.thanks for sharing
>>535236631Or just drop the master braker.
>>535236858any tips for finding drunk losers who will work for beer?
>>535241661get a zojiroushi water boiler they're peam
>>535236242>this picunless you're doing something with high voltage transformer box near your house, you're not getting zapped trough plastic handle
Just learning that even peeling adhesive yourself damages you, so you need to call the tradie for everything.
>>535236242Baumol's coat disease and taxes are killing our economy by setting an upper limit on specialization.
>>535236242This is how we get fat 90 IQ boomers charging sissy office fags $400 to tighten the nut on their kitchen sink
>>535243102I know how to solder and handle sophisticated chip boards, using all electric devices, yet I would never do it mysefl lmao. Rather, let it decay or call for help.
It's my penis I'll DIY if I want
>>535236490Rubber gloves protect you they are so powerful no power can go in them I have sldo solved world hunger with my next brilliant invention the vending machine>>535238610Only dangerous without the rubber gloves
>>535244172I think static electricity is fooling the detector.
>>535236242The fuck..? I'd rather be self-sufficient, woman.
>>535236242nothing wrong with diy, but electricity is tricky if you're a retard. Also there are codes to follow for a reason.although I only got electrocuted once, in my long life of diy-ing. And it wasnt' really my fault. I used an old soviet soldering iron, with no ground. And the heating element put 240V on the tip.well, maybe my fault was trusting a soldering iron with no grounding, to be safe
>>535244408Maybe, read it yourself and report back:https://pubs.aip.org/aip/apl/article/128/19/191101/3389324/X-ray-and-electron-emission-from-peeling-adhesive
Irish tradesmen want €200 an hour to wire your house wrong.Better to take the chance and do it yourself. Optimum is finding a non irish tradesman.
>>535242233it's a blessing in the disguise. now you can't put your peepee in other men anus
>>535244467According to this every jew on earth should have hand cancer by now.
>>535236242Stop pretending trades are some noble, high skill mystery.In my country they funnel the kids who can’t finish normal schooling into these programs.Most of the work is perfectly replicable by anyone with half a brain and the willingness to learn.DIY saves you serious money and time.
>>535236242If only people weren't so strapped for cash and everything wasn't so expensive these days maybe non-boomers could afford to hire professionals for shit.
>>535236242Unfortunately I can’t do everything on my own, due to expertise lack, dangerous job or just (landlord) rules.But there is 0 reasons to rely on some services. E.g., bicycle tire replacements. I got a flat rear tire. I need to carry bicycle 30min to the closest repair shop, wait fucking 4 days and pay 40euro. Next time I’ve checked video guides and did it in 1h. After I get used to the process - not more than 30min. Tire costs like 5euri
bought one of these and taught myself how to frame, wire new outlets, and shut down main water then solder copper pipes. it's honestly not that hard to be desu.also be careful of youtube influences. more often than not they are doing things for the first and spreading misinformation for the views.
>>535236880residential is pretty straightforward but infrastructure and industrial i suggest be left to professionals else we end up like india
>>535236387>electricity isnt dangerous just use insulating gloves while working with it
>>535236242Notice that not a single jeet posted in this manual work thread.
>>535236242>Pay a tradesmanIf you're brown this is good advice. Whites are exempt unless you're operating at brown IQ levels
>>535245587Don't even turn the breaker off. That's for pussies. Long as switch is off you good.
Better to say I broke it than it broke.
>>535238610household electrical installations are very safe so long as you don't touch exposed wires and use a bit of common sense. switch off the breakers before doing anything if at all possible and use a voltage tester.>>535238755the entire third world functions without paying much attention to this crap. just use a fat enough wire so it doesn't heat up
>>535245587The Brazilian thunderstorm shower....
>>535236955>burn down a houseLmao, you live in a wooden chicken coop, like a discount, maple-syruped GRINGOlem
>>535236981>The cost for this hookup? $75,000.The name of that kid in the 1960s? Albert Einstein.
>>535236242I diy I a lotBut never electrics
>>535238453It looks like you didn't rue the funf spoke to the lookout valve. The whole thing will have to come down, I'm afraid.
>>535236390This
>>535244882This is completely correct. I own a bicycle repair shop in a student city and when I was young and I had a flat tire my dad showed me how to patch it. Nowadays student can't even fix a front tire but rather pay me €36,95 for it. The tire costs me 1,24 and it sells for 6,95 and they pay 30 to change it. My mechanics earn roughly 20 an hour and take 5-10 minutes for a front tire or race/mtb rear tire. Do the math yourself. Best part is when they buy a tire to replace it themselves, don't remove the piece of glass that caused the leak and then come back to pay me to do it again. And you're right, it could be 3-5 business days depending on the season
>>535237181>ive been to many places and overall so many people have stories of just "my dad fixed it" with little to no knowledge its fucking insane. It weirdly feels so unlikely in current year- even with youtube knowledge sharingevery new generation is becoming more and more subhuman Africa tier. Learn practical skills you social media consuming faggots.
The only time it makes sense to pay a tradesman is when you don't have the specialized tools needed for something already and the cost to get them or rent them outweighs the trademan's (plus whatever math you want to do for your time). And even then if the tools can be used for something else it still may be worth getting them anyways.
>>535247388This seems to be true, but why? I fitted a bidet toilet seat with the help of youtube videos. Without the videos I would have had to employ a plumber/electrician. You can learn lots of things from the internet.
>>535238453Noice
The level of 50IQ cope in this thread is off the charts.
>>535248210why do you want to shoot water up your asshole?are you gay?
>>535236242Never pay for something a retard can do.Because only retards make a living doing it.
>>535248210ironically a bidet can shock the fuck out of you, it's more dangerous than you'd think
>>535236242>DIY culture is a sign there is something wrong with your economy.Ok, then fix the economy so people can afford to hire professionals again.
>>535249387Have you ever felt that someone's left an everlasting chocolate crayon up there? I don't, anymore.>>535249639Then I'll be going out on my throne.
>>535236242DEI=DIEdon't die trying to be a nigger
>>535236804Wire nuts can theoretically hold more tension but you shouldn't have that much tension on the wires lmao. Also theoretically, because DIY home owners should just stick to wagos they are great.
I don't do electrics but everything from plumbing to plastering you can watch a few tutorials and ask AI a few questions and you are set.
>>535236827>$5 tester>>535236840>get a cheap voltage testerActually, those single-ended "testers" are prone to false positives and false negatives. Only a proper dual probe tester gets you reliable results.
>>535236242>continue living in ignorance>so that some schmuck can benefit off your stupidity
>>535236242everything is easier than ever to DIY because of all the step-by-step videos online.
>>535236242Maybe if tradies weren't thieves? My mother wanted to get her living room and kitchen repainted and she got 5 quotations for it and the average was 5000€ just to repaint two rooms.I ended up wasting 3 week ends doing it for her but at least she didn't get robbed.
>>535246424>>535236981I'm on well and septic and it's great. Low cost. Free water. Only pay electricity for the jet pump.Don't have the government looking for cocaine in my poop or whatever the American police state does with their sewer surveillance systems.
>>535247663Basically this is 80%of the cases, I would love to have room space just for tools
>>535236873I built my own house for 50k when the EXPERTS dictate that should've cost me $180,000. kys. my boots don't have straps they have laces and I lace them up every day, pussy.
>>535246522also needs to check the specs on the rotary gurder
>>535236631I just rub live and neutral together before touching any bare wires.If I switched the wrong breaker the correct breaker will pop.
>>535236242Im gonna stick my foil wrapped dick into this socket and you can do nothing to stop me.
DIY is something you should do when you know it won't kill you
>>535252900i do a lot of interior work myself because it doesnt matter that muchlike ive had no flooring in my sun room for 6 months, it doesnt matterim paying someone to do my roof because if i remove half of it and then get adhd and lose interest, thats a problem
>>535236622Go to any website and you'll see the same thing. Online isn't IRL faggot
>>535253198Pragmatic
>>535236387based SS13 assistant
>>535236242Electrician here. Go on YouTube and do it yourself
Electrician here. RCDs are for fags.
>>535236242I like DIY in general, but electrical work will absolutely instantly or even eventually unalive a person if they fuck it up and people seem to not realize this.Bad plumbing too if you're dumb enough to not give proper pipe width, not seal things properly and if you happen to route grey water or even blackwater into your drinking or showering water somehow.
>>535236242
>>535254809(and yes, cheapo tester tools can be wrong)
>>535236242What a gay ass warning sign.
Meanwhile most home improvement retailers are pandering the idea that anyone can be a "pro" so now you get to deal with customers getting fucked over by retards who have no business being a contractor
>>535245185None of these internet trade retards are qualified to do infrastructure or industrial either. All of these forum arguments are autists arguing about the difference in code between north dakota and south dakota and how one is clearly wrong and dangerous despite the fact that they are essentially assembling lego with very low pressure and voltage. And they are conducting these arguments without even the slightest hint of engineering knowledge
>>535236631But that takes all the excitement out of it
Lol I'm not paying some retard to fuck up my house and hide it from me. I'm just as retarded and perfectly capable of fucking it myself, bonus being ill know what is fucked.
>>535236242>you VILL pay the electrician $2k to replace your smoke detectors, goy
>>535236475>my dad fixed absolutely everything himself.My dad was the same. That's how you know it will be done correctly and not by some fucking cowboy. I'll never let another man touch my car as well.
>>535243120 >climb into a warm oven>It was a Jewish bakeryLOLOLOL
>>535236242You're right, and the problem is that people can't afford to pay a tradesman.I am getting a new deck put on my house by an actual carpenter. Mid-range quality. $40,000 leaf bux.You have to be pretty fortunate in life to be able to afford that.The problem with our society is that the average Joe would have to save up 20 years to afford a single 2 week long engagement with a tradesman.
>>535236242I don't know if it's all tradesmen, but they try to take advantage of people that don't know any better. My parent's A/C went out, called an A/C guy and he said it's "fried." He quotes a new system and installation at $7,000. I went on youtube to diagnose the air conditioners problems, turns out the contactor is bad. A contactor at the hardware store was, no joke, $16. Replaced the contactor and it's been going well.
>>535256835Thats every profession though
>>535236387>electricity isnt dangerousYou forgot the "if" that assertion. You should take a step back and re-read before responding because now you look retarded. All it takes is 2 minutes of thought before posting a knee-jerk reaction.
>>535245587If only Uncle Hitler had access to this technology, no jew would have survived.
>>535236242diy culture is retards wishing their dad taught them basic, useful things but instead they probably self-excommunicated from their family over politics
>>535239450I run the commercial roofing division of a GC and I have a project now that I literally have to convince retards in the building they have to replace the EPDM roof that more than half of it blew up.>"I don't live on the top floor, so how is this my problem?">Well, tard, if the roof blows off the fucking building, you are correct that it won't be as catastrophic as if you lived on the top floor...it will be slightly less catastrophic as you move down the floors to the bottom level >You also won't be able to get insurance on your condo because the HOA policy on the exterior of the building is going to be cancelled because....75% of your roof is blown upThis a real conversation I had with about 20 Millennial retards.
>>535236242>DIY culture is a sign there is something wrong with your economy.well yeah, if I could afford it I'd pay experts in those areas to fix the things wrong with my home. but I cant, so instead I use Google and YouTube and have to fix shit myself. also there are just some things no worker wants to do because its hard or annoying to do, so you'l end up having to do it.
>>535257239Do you often draw retarded conclusions or is this a rare occasion?
>>535236242>pay a white guy to tight ur your screw for 300$faggots ruined this and dont even get me started and the nepotism in this tradeshit
>>535237915>formal educationis a scam for the vast majority of fields. At best, its a credentialing process that shows employers that you were exposed to certain content and regurgitated it on tests sufficiently, but too many people think you dont know things unless you have a degree associated wiith it. You can buy the same books used in a university and read them yourself, and your typical professor is not really going to provide any special insight into the field other that what is in those books.
>>535257690Everyone knows you don't need a degree to be competent in a field. People get degrees because they need them to get JOBS which throw out your resume if you don't have a degree and you don't have 20 years of experience either...
>>535257946>Everyone knows you don't need a degree to be competent in a fieldNo, not everyone does. Credentialism is a thing for a reason.
>>535236490>full proofyou sound like a union boomer who needs to be protected from competition like a zoo exhibit
>>535237073this frickin MILLENIALS dont even know how to give a firm handshake. they start shaking their hands and shutting their eyes when they try. ngm they need to work hard like mike rowe from dirty jobs does
I installed one of these last week by myself. Did all the plumbing and electrical connections by myself. How many of you faggots can do that? Especially knowing if you fuck up you can die from electrical shock? Yes, I am better than you. Deal with it.
>>535257453Yes, but a lot of that price tag comes from people being scared to simply flip their breaker and replace a dam light switch or can light themselves.I did an electrician apprentice ship, and a lot of the service calls were for exactly that.A lot of times I'd go to a house just to reset a GFCI because some older woman has all of her hair shit turned on at the same time.In mobile cranes now and it's a relief to not work with any women, dykes, gays, or just outright weirdos.If you got a good head on your shoulders you can make good money in trades, just don't make the same mistakes your "peers" do (3 baby mamas, HD Denali, boat payment, etc.)
>>535239842I did call in the roto rooters when my sceptic tank clogged. I didn't know where my sceptic tank was, so my lawn looked like Holes. And it was the end of a March so I was relieved the ground wasn't still frozen. I also got it pumped out while I had the tank entrance dug out. Never pour grease down a drain not even a little bit. (not sure if that's what happened)
I DIY everything. Why? Because I enjoy it. Because I'm knowledgeable and competent. Seethe harder kikes, queers and pencil necks.
>>535259800I am scared to clean my own furnace. I would need to find a youtube vid for my specific furnace.
>>535259327I paid a guy to install it while he was working on it in the basement, I worked my job upstairs (wfh) I made enough to cover his price and then some in the comfort of my computer seat being a manual laborer is not really a flex
>>535259327I've installed both electrical and gas water heaters on my rentals and projects by myself. It's not as complicated as you make it out to be.
>>535260278I did it because I wanted to, faggot.>>535260320According to our lord and savior Grok only 2% of the world population have the skills and ability to do it.
>>535236242If you own a home then you absolutely must have at least basic skills in all areas of this stuff. In one year of owning a home I have become a DIY guy and it feels great to fix stuff yourself. The contractor jew WANTS you to doubt your abilities, bros. You will surprise yourself.
>>535236387im electrician by trade and amount of stupid / borderline criminal fuckups made by "certified professionals" is staggering - im not sure how certification process is handled today but its severely lacking (or young people have mastered learn - pass - forget philosophy)example - my parents (old people 75+) asked for ev charging station - and it was made with cables that could handle the amperage - but not for hours in tight enclosed space - they were lucky that they noticed "burning rubber smell" from fuse box before whole house burnt down...
>>535260484>I did it because I wanted to, faggot.you did it because your broke ass can't afford a technician poor countries are muh DIY because they have to be
>>535260085>I am scared to clean my own furnace.you burnin' coal, boy?
>>535260602I have waaay more money and assets than you.
>>535260761sure you do, Ceco
>>535236242Why yes I do my own electrical work. How could you tell?
>>535236387>>535240661>herp derp 'lEcTrIsSiTeE aIn't No DaNgErUsYou're antivaxers, aren't you? Come on, 'fess up.
>>535236622I’m a tradie and the truth is half of the shit is simple and can be done “wrong”. It’s either not optimized, or is slightly unsafe. You can have extension cords running through your walls to a fake plug and it will work.
>>535236242that would be 900.000 dollaridoos sirhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oG5HGNaHng
>>535239450Nice story. Have another Mario picture for your plumber reaction image collection.
>>535262072If you see a gas inspector trying to test your gas pipes with an open flame just knock him unconscious right away.
>>535236242>economy gets raped>people have less money>people charge more moneyThe only thing I wouldn't DIY is electrical work. It's not even for safety, it's because I don't wanna damage shit and i don't have the right tools. If you are a man and you can't do simple mechanic or simple plumbing, change outlets, you suck. DIY is how you don't get raped by some boomer mechanic shop that wants to charge you 2000 dollars for a tire rotation because he apparently found out your alternator and all your bets are bad.
>>535236242>DIY culture is a sign there is something wrong.Absolutely. I bring car to Mechanic for check engine light, charges me $200, to do tests, doesn't fix it. I Google it, for most common causes for the code.I buy the part and Fix it for under $30.
>>535236390What's really funny is them trying this now that AI exists. Chat GPT has become my mechanic and I've fixed absolutely every car problem I've had with it.
>>535264317Same. People shit on chatGPT but it's really useful for things like troubleshooting.
DIYers keep me in business without having to travel outside my local area. I love them. Please keep ruining your homes so I can charge you out the ass to fix them for you.
>>535236242unironically i agree with you this time, mutt. normalfags having the chutzpah to think that they can somehow fix their highly complicated, extremely high powered house circuitry by themselves is how we get those electric pajeet videos
Lol fuck tradesmen these niggers charge 1000$ to change a spark plug or change a lightbulb and they will even throw in a Hollywood act trying to gaslight you into believing they’re doing you a favor
>>535236242Just turn off the breakers. How retarded are you?
>>535236622>Blue collars are the vegan cyclists of the work force>Go onto any welding, plumbing, wiring "how to" video and the comment section will be nothing but tradies stating what they did wrong, how to "really" do it, asking retarded "edge case" questions, etc. They are the most insufferable people on the planet>Their personalities match up 1:1 with elitist cyclists>Brutal but truthful, have a (you).
>>535236390>We'll make everything in the future so intentionally convoluted that you can't DIY>And if you find a way, we'll make it illegal through some technicality
Genuine contender for most jewish post this year
>wife says to her dad she wants a new outlet installed behind the tv so we don’t see the wire >her dad: “ohhhhh boy oh no no NO that is NOT a DIY you want anon doing. You’re gonna need a pro’s pro to do that otherwise your house is going to explode”>hire licensed electrician from one of those private equity outfits to install a new outlet >shows up with a work van and tablet>installs the outlet >that’ll be $800 >leaves>pull the outlet out>wires not seated on the contacts correctly >wires not folded neatly, complete rats nest stuffed inside the boxnever again
>>535236242Non DIYers are idiots. Literally every single piece of equipment used by "professionals" can be purchased anywhere usually for less than the price of a single job. Every piece of knowledge they possess, down to the exact same textbooks used in trade schools, apprenticeships, etc. are available online for free. Hiring tradies is so expensive that even if you have a high paying job, you'll usually save more time/money DIYing than earning what you would need to pay a tradie.
>>535236723>> Go onto any welding, plumbing, wiring "how to" video and the comment section will be nothing but tradies stating what they did wrong, how to "really" do it, asking retarded "edge case" questions, etc. They are the most insufferable people on the planet. >Like no shit. Every single profession is full of gatekeeping fart sniffers.>the trick is to quietly and with great autism learn everything about your side skill there is to know, this is your hobby to read a book or website on. Then be that guy with the expert advice but you're polite and you don't act like a dick. But you do you.
>>535236622Go to any car forum and these people will be endlessly arguing about which identically priced weight of oil can be substituted for the oil the car was designed to work with for no reason. I get that "trust the experts" is bullshit but I'm pretty sure some grey haired PhD at Toyota knew the right weight of oil to put into the engine he just designed.
>>535252041That's not true, Hans. A $18 Klein non-contact tester is UL certified and widely praised for its safety and reliability. Besides, our outlets aren't 230 volt deathtraps.
dumbest thread I've seen in a long time
>>535236804>Backstabs suck but works good enough. I use Wago instead of wirenuts too. Same shit, I think superior to all of it.>?if you investigate all the reasons in forming your idea about backstabbing electrical 110 work. Its an inherently superior system. Doing demolition work, I got to test backstabbing work. I was swinging like Tarzan on the connections. I would turn the power back on and was amazed to find out those backstabbing jobs seemed as good if not better than regular twist around the nut work taking torture ripping a demolition apart. The guys like me on the demo crew because I provide safe temporary power as I deactivate rooms in the house they're working on. If you use the maximum gauge wire your backstabbing socket or switch is rated for, its a myth that its not a very solid connection. Unbent and secured, added advantages are quick strength, quick safe work. The indicator depth brings insulation just up to a full tight connection, unlike utilizing the side terminals which are power shorts if you're not careful. You can nebshit around in a wiring box of backstab with the power on, sniffing with your multimeter probes. There's no exposed live connections on the sides of the plug wired up there if you buy backstab-only. The wire is never bent, twisted, worked with. Its both mechanically sound and you can release, rewire, with no abuse of twisting the wire ends. No more need to snip off the ends every time you work. Under weight load testing for mechanical strength, back-stab connection done properly is as strong or stronger than traditional side-plate work. It has more than enough current capacity and square inches of contact. It just acquired a bad reputation that it doesn't deserve.
>>535236827I prefer a regular cheap harbor freight digital multi-meter, tells me all I need to know. That said I have a little poking tester and a favorite plug with LED codes to diagnose the wiring at a glance. Ground faults for instance, are nice to see visually.
>>535266762>trusting engineers
