Question for this board, how long does the Ukraine war need to go on for you to accept that Russia might not actually be winning?>It doesn't matter since Ukraine is destroyedHow does a destroyed Ukraine benefit Russia if Ukraine was supposed to be a part of Russia? All its industry and population that's now destroyed was supposed to be added to Russia.
>>535359861How much territory has Ukraine retaken from Russia and permanently held in the past 3-6 months?
>>535359861russia has lost millions of men.ukraine in the 500K mark.one of the most pointless wars in human history.even more stupid than ww1.and yes, Russian cant win, isnt winning and should end it already.
>>535359951video game brain.
>>535359951Now they're retaking territory but it still doesn't matter since 90% of the country isn't under Russian occupation.
>>535359861>winningI have no idea what the campaign goals are at this point.They started with denazification. Have the Nazis been removed from the Ukraine yet? IDK, but I think the Putin's moved on from that anyway, and I can't tell what he wants.
>>535360076He basically gave up after the incursion on kiev failed so horriblyWar was lost from that point on, they're just coping
>>535359861Russia has the means to step it up at any time of their choosing and level Ukraine, Ukraine would level Russia if they had the means.
>>535359861Russia has taken 20% of Ukraine
>>53536038690% of that was taken with the first few weeksits basically a stalemate
>>535360324which is why they havent in 4 years of war, 2 more weeks i guess
>>535360062>kike avoids answering the question so ukraine hasn't retaken any land
>>535361497But they're not under Russian occupation and the Jewish nazi government in Ukraine is still in control. That's the whole point; Russia doesn't want a neighboring country to keep bombing it for the next 100 years. Ukraine has to be defeated.
>>535359861the people who support Russia are all paid shills with VPNs, good number of them are jeets that are literally being held hostage by criminal gangs, they get set quotas, and get beaten regularly. If they fail at their tasks, its off to the front to drive supply trucks and play frogger with Ukrainian drones.
>>535360016>A clear and concise material measurement of the bare minimum military gain needed for a win condition in a defensive conflict against invasion is "video game brain."
>>53535986115 years maybeRussia fought in Chechnya exactly this time
>>535359861Russian population and resources grew from just the actual Russians they liberated from the east. They could kill every ukrainian alive and it would still be a net win for them. Furthermore it's fairly obvious that ukrainians won't in fact fight to the last bacon but will give up eventually, they are currently being killed faster than they are being born so that point comes eventually.
>>535359861>How does a destroyed Ukraine benefit Russia if Ukraine was supposed to be a part of Russia?Demilitarisation, denazification and no NATO are a start. Then there's plenty of resources no longer available to their adversaries.
>>535368158The Ukrainian arms industry is bigger than it ever has been before, and there is no realistic mechanism for Russia to destroy it.
>>535359861>if Ukraine was supposed to be a part of RussiaYou have absolutely no clue about even the most basics of this conflict, why even try to give your worthless opinion about it.Ukraine getting nuked and being a nuclear wasteland buffer between russia and the lunatic obssesed nafo troons would be an ideal scenario for russia.
>>535368247I'm not saying they can or can't; I'm just saying that there are definite benefits to Russia even if they utterly destroy Ukraine and can't make any use of it.
>>535365639>from two week SMO>to the 5th year of SMO>to they will give up eventually
>>535360324> Russia has the means to step it up at any time of their choosing and level UkraineZEEEE GLOVES ahahahahaha
Ukrainian women are turning tricks throughout the rest of the world. It'd been 5 years. They are never coming back. They've scored easy green cards from marrying men with money or got naturalized. Thanks for the blondes, cucks!
>>535359861I base the status of the war off of how many nafoid cope threads there has been this weekend alone.
>>535359951Ukraine just launched a major counteroffensive, Russia is literally crying that they're using graphite bombs to disable air defenses vs swarm and glide drones.
>>535359861You're looking this the wrong way. The point of zigger and migger rhetoric isn't to argue in good faith but to signal to their own that they're loyal to the cause. The Soviets had the concept of "Vranyo" which means a lie that everybody knows is a lie but which they still repeat because it is expected of them.
>>535368795>when taking off the zegro gloves is just launching 100s of nukes at ukraine and irradiating the entire continentrussians truly are the niggers of white people
>>535368275Which might eventually happen.
>>535368939>rhetoric isn't to argue in good faith but to signal to their own that they're loyal to the causeIt's hilarious how you nafoid faggots all so desperately project. But in your inbred, FAS mind you think everyone else is as stupid as you are doesn't notice.
>>535369052> But in your inbred, FAS mind you think everyone else is as stupid as you are doesn't notice.Do ziggers really think saying “NO U” is best tactic?>hmmm, everyone is calling us ziggers inbred and having FAS>I KNOW! I will say everyone else has FAS despite it making no sense as other countries don’t have mothers drinking alcohol while having a child
>>535369052>desperately project.>Vranyo (вpaньё) is a uniquely Russian cultural concept. While a standard lie (lozh) is told to actively deceive, vranyo describes a performance: you tell a lie, the other person knows it's a lie, you both know they know, yet everyone nods along to keep up appearances or maintain social harmony.>uniquely Russian cultural concept
>>535359861Nobody is winning except israel.
>>535359861ukraine lost around 1.5 mln dead, 6 mln became russians, 6 mln moved to west according to UN, 3+ mln disappeared or moved somewhereits current population is around 25 mln people from 42 pre warrussia lost around 150k dead including all mercs and former dpr, its current population is 146 mln and 152 mln with new territoriesso ukraine can continue winning until 2030s, after that they will disappear from physical reality
>>535359861Crimea and the Donbass are both in Russian control.Russia said it was only going to take Crimea and the Donbass.When are you going to admit Russia has won.
>>535360062Wasn't it about only taking specific pieces (~25%)?
>>535370997>no one but russians lie >its a uniquely russian cultural concept meanwhile you nafo troons are state mandated to pretend a woman is a man.you have actual propagandized brain rot.
>>535359861pidors will claim victory no matter how the war ends so it's pointless to ask this question
>>535371558it was about >removing drug addicted Kiev regime>denazification >demilitarization none of those objectives have been met they took some territory and killed some children tho, so it's a win
>>535371757>>no one but russians lie>vranyo describes a performance: you tell a lie, the other person knows it's a lie, you both know they know, yet everyone nods along to keep up appearances or maintain social harmony.so fucking funny kek
>>535372321how is that in any way different from being forced to pretend a man is a woman and celebrate that fact?
>>535359861You don't seem to understand math, Russia can kill every man Ukraine can produce 10x over, and they are. Don't believe propaganda numbers of death rates, they're being slaughtered.
>>535368855You dumb fucks say this everything Ukraine launches a counteroffensive. Like fucking clockwork. But its not you on the frontlines getting drone striked so you'll keep clapping like seals every time this happens. Fuck you, but checked. Faggot.
>>535372585>nervous russian noises
>>535372369>forced to celebrate 0.001% of the population>you tell a lie, the other person knows it's a lie, you both know they know,
>>535359984>it was real in my mind
>>535360062may we see it?
>>535372369Trannyism is an American mass delusion that lasted about 2-3 years and never caught on anywhere else. Nobody talks about trannies anymore, and everybody thinks they’re mentally ill, including European institutions
>>535360076>They started with denazification>There are people that actually believed that retarded casus belliAhahahahahahahhahah
>>535372800>>535372952so its not a uniquely russian cultural concept?
>>535372377>they are being slaughtered We know ziggers are being slaughtered
>>535360016Peak videogame brain is the nafo faggots whining about imagined kill ratios. Such as >>535359984
>>535372321You're literally doing the thing right now little brown bro
>>535359951Around negative 1%Taking territory on the internet doesnt count
>>535368247>and there is no realistic mechanism for Russia to destroy it.HahaLook at this faggot. Pretty sure when you steal all the money and flee to Israel it hurts your money launder operation disguised as a defense companyThe Danish government has suspended plans for a solid rocket fuel facility intended to supply Fire Point, the Ukrainian defense company widely linked to high-level corruption involving Vladimir Zelensky’s inner circle, one of the firm’s senior executives has told the Financial Times.Originally operating as a film scouting agency owned by Zelensky insiders, Fire Point has been exposed in leaked transcripts of conversations between Zelensky’s inner circle as a vehicle for syphoning off lucrative arms contracts
>>535371376Its worse than that11 million of the 25 are pensioners living off the state who were too poor to flee
>>535373784> Pretty sure when you steal all the money and flee to Israel it hurts your money launder operation disguised as a defense company1000 drones will hit Russia today and there’s nothing Russia can do to stop it. And next day and one after that
>>535373831Ukrainian state claims its 22-25 mln. They dont know themselves. Majority of that are old women, Nobody will publish data about ukrainian population in nearest 30-40 years until locals are cleansedMilitary loses could be more than 1.5 mln if we include all incapacitated and those who died from health deterioration laterNext census will be done around 2050s either by russian administration or by zog if they manage to terraform part of land into muslim/indian/nigger majority
>>535374038>>535373831>Ukraine is completely out of men, drones, artillery, planes, tanks>Russia needs to recruit fresh 30k men every month to fight enemy that doesn’t exist
>>535374204There are around 10-11mln men left in ukraine, total population is around 25 mlnRussian contractors inrease size of russian army, size increased 2x since 2022 without mobilization, especially aviation, missiles and uavUkraine needs to kidnap remaining workers just to win the time, everybody knows russia will win, i think even zog
>>535374694> since 2022 without mobilizationAHAHAHAHAHA RUSSIA LITERALLY MOBILIZED 300k men
>>535373017>>535373569>YOU MUST CELEBRATE 0.001% OF THE POPULATIONthats the lie kek
>>535374694>Russian contractorsMercenaries btw.
>>535359861if ukraine is winning so hard then why did they have to import jeets to round up whatever is left of original male population for the front?
>>535374936are us army mutts mercenaries too? they're literaly signing contracts
>>535375039Are you talking about Russia importing one million Indians to replace lost men?
>>535374694Bullshit11 million of the people left are pensioners too broke and old to flee.10 million are childrenThe men have fled
>>535374843Yes, once. total army size with logistics increased to 2.5 mln from 1.2 from in 2022. After 2022 that they grow slowly every year with contractor providing rotation for existic forcesUkraine mobilizes 30-40k every month and they just die in trenchesor desert, thats huge differenceThat is the reason why NAFO needs to beat, capture and kidnap people to serve in military lol
>>535375121no, i'm talking about actual jeets vanning ukrainian males right now
>>535375121So far, faggot shill, Russia has taken in 35k/year skilled indians on work visas.Eat shit troon
>>535359861It will be rebuild. Legacy infrastructure is fuckt and will be made better. That leads to post war jobs and and and. Deal with it. Russia is winning biggly.
>>535375139As i have told nobody knows, maybe 10 mln men including old and childrenThey is only number 22-25 mln left - that is what officials toldI cant understand how it is impossible to count goyim in defines economic zone, maybe reason is the same why west does not have statistics about newborn ethnicityMaybe they dont want and want to memoryhole all, i think great replacement is real>>535374936It was the past and it will be the future, draft armies existed only in small period of time
I hope Ukrainians kill every man, woman and child in the region previously known as the russia.
>>535375142> total army size with logistics increased to 2.5 mln from 1.2 from in 2022.> Vladimir Putin has signed a decree to increase the size of Russia’s armed forces from 1.9 million to 2.04 million, as the war in Ukraine enters its seventh month with no signs of abating.Russia on paper had 2 million army in 2022, then according to Russian government they recruited 30k men every month for last 4 years or more than 1.2 million men.Despite that army only increased by 500k, once again on paper. None knows where 700k and 300k mobilized went
>>535375352>None knows where 700k and 300k mobilized wentyou know that russian soldiers can just go home when their contracts are up, right?
>>535375352Russian army had 900k + other contractors (like logistics), around 1.2k totalIt was reducing size every year because of long period of peace, not it is increasing and will remain such for next 30+ years due to long period of wars aheadUkraine was invaded with 120k soldiers and 30k LDR troopers, in summer 2022 they added wagner PMCFirst reservists engaged in combat only in early 2023 during counter offensive
>>535375530They are going home alright, mostly in black bags
>>535359861The war will continue until Russia rightfully takes back the territory that belongs to it
>>535375546> Ukraine was invaded with 120k soldiers and 30k LDR troopers, in summer 2022 they added wagner PMCWhich Russian units did not fight in Ukraine, again?
>>535375708If Russia had lost 40% of its population and 20% of its territory since 2022, would you say that it winning or losing?
>>535359861Sorry but we don't take /k/ seriously. The EU has decided to spend 800 billions, and conscription is being reintroduced in half of Europe.You can throw as much of a fit as you want but Russia won and everyone is preparing for that
>>535375319WrongZelensky's press secretary that fled the country gave us the 11 million number of pensioners in ukraine during the Tucker interview.I just best guessed to kids #
>>535375546> Russian army had 900k + other contractors (like logistics), around 1.2k totalI’ve cited you Monke decree about army increase to 2 million in 2022 before Russia recruited more than million contract soldiers
>>535372993>direct quote from PutinAre you saying we shouldn't believe anything Putin says?
>>535375352>>535375530>>535375708Ukraine had chance for stalemate only from august 2022 to april 2023, but they were baited by prigozhyn into first meatgrinderThey lost 70k dead volunteers/professional soldiers againt 10k PMC that used convicts (full amnesty + much money) for all risky missions and experienced soldiers for urban battles after defence is breachedThen they made counter offensive according to NAFO standards with >25:1 k:d in russia favor, all of them were killed from far away and they only russian loses were from himars2 meatgrinders were a turning point after which ukraine could not do normal mobilization anymore and started impressment and bussification
>uhg nafoids are in every thread like flies on shit peddling their peramogus yes tranny, youre winning
>>535375530You know that all contracts are being prolonged automatically untill the SMO is over, right retard?
>>535375684>nigger chimps out when he finds out you plan to put a security system in your home
>>535375811I listened to that interview also, I like his channel. Numbers about remaining ukainian population contradict each other. But there is no more than 25 mln left
>>535375319>literally forgets his propaganda point that hohols are bussified to exclaim russia set the new standard of mercenary armiesnever change, tovarish, kek
>>535375854>believing a KGB agent>believing a guy whose job was to spread propaganda >ishyddt>>535375987There’s no way there’s still experienced fighters in the Russian military. There’s nothing left but command positions.
>>535359861Russia lost its chances of victory within the first weeks of the war. At this point nothing can really justify their loss of men, equipment and money. That's not to say that Ukraine are winning either because they have paid a tremendous price, but for them it would at least be a moral victory to get out of the war with some honour. Anyone still claiming Russia is winning are 100% coping and delusional
>>535376336>propaganda point>that hohols are bussifiedThe propaganda point that water is wet?
>>535375987he prolly doesntthe only ppl he prolly talks to on here are either literal rus state shills, or coping turdworld BRICSfags
>>535375987funny, just last year the cope was>thousands of returning soldiers will be cray-cray and will do crime
>>535359861Until the last ukraninan
>>535371376>>535374038>>535374694>>535375319>>535375142>>535375546>>535375886you should join the smo, bratan. we need the real men like you in our forces. not all these libierashki and traitors that believe the hohol propaganda. you will work as an analyst with such great mind and won't be hurt. only a small fraction of people die on our side. once the contract expire you will go home as a proud warrior.Z
>>535359861Are they still going to attack Poland? I thought it was a defensive war fighting out and capturing territory for defensive long term strategy, aka get to some mountains as they're on all flat land, currently, and any army can fight in and capture Moscow?
>>535376370yea there's nothing but a dozen armchair generals between ukraine and moscow, they'll be storming the kremlin in 2 weeks
>>535374028how does this cope post stop the ukraine from losing?
>>535376480How does that contradict anything i just said retard? Also, returned soldiers in question:
>>535376492you should stop being paid shill on right wing mongoloid basket waving chatroom and definitelly i dont support centrist boomersi condemn any war of agression that kills ethnic european population, even if it is retarded peasant people like ukrainiansbut zog is much more digusting, i feel animalistic disgust to all that troons
>>535359861soviet afghan war lasted for 10yrs.so, 6 more years. russia collapses then too.
>>535359861>how long does the Ukraine war need to go on for you to accept that Russia might not actually be winning?When Moscow is reduced to ash
>>535376783so why have russians allowed 137k soldiers to go home if they're so low on manpower? something doesn't quite add up here
>>535371376this is a painful war for Russia too but the end result will be worth it for them. Even with a lasting ceasefire, Ukraine's future is fucked.
>>535376860The scale of death is much much higher in this war. Soviets lost 15-30k in Afghanistan over 10 years meanwhile the absolute floor for deaths in Ukraine is 350k
>>535376917Because they are fucking disabled and cant continue fighting anymore. Some disabled still do btw.
>>535377086>350k deaths minimummay we see them?
>>535359861I don't think it's humiliating for Russia to lose to Ukraine. It's okay, I will start calling Kiev, Kyiv and maybe finally accept tranny toilets and all. Maybe McDonalds is not really that bad and we should protect Israel.
>>535377167Here you go trannyhttps://en.zona.media/article/2026/05/09/losses
>>535377167yes, literally.https://200.zona.media/
>>535376416you are barely sentient keki dont think you understand the meaning of the word "propaganda point"you are so brainwashed you default to defending your point.incapable of nuanced discussionruinedbrainlessgarbage
>>535377272>look at my official UK government numbers! The same government that declared straight white men are the biggest threat to Europe!Starmer is a wanker
>>535359861The whole war is making people very rich and killing whites, it will go on forever
>>535377417The newest /uhg/ and government directive is that Russia is responsible for every single non-white in EU somehow, but if Russia loses for good me and you will simply have to repeat it otherwise we will get killed. Why the non-whites will not leave if Russia loses, nobody will know, or why they currently don't, but it's not our place to ask questions. It's just gonna be a holocaust kind of thing, some things you don't question.
>>535377261>>535377272>pidors pidoringkekarooooooooooooooooo
>>535377417>official UK government numbersThe UK is posting obituaries in Russia?
>>535377151>Because they are fucking disabled and cant continue fighting anymore.But that's the whole Zigger army.
Question for OP. What are you babbling about you stupid new turd? Russia is a laughing stock. So are you now.
>>535377363Stay mad, it won't stop being the reality
>>535359861Russia has nukes. Ukraine does not.
>>535377417It's an obituary count. Probably the most accurate numbers we'll get until the war is over.
>>535377151>Because they are fucking disabledhow are they supposed to do crime if they're disabled? which of those copes is true? my guess is neither>Some disabled still do btw.meanwhile in ukraine
>>535377639If you trust the UK government you are not white
>>535377739You didn't answer my question. The UK is the one posting these Russian obituaries?
>>535377812The UK pays for the operation, faggotI dont trust them and neither should you
>>535377611ure functionally a bot. youre fucking pathetic.
>>535378626Why? I just told you that calling something propaganda won't make it less real.More pathetic is to be paid to post retarded shit with EU funds like you're being paid to do so.Get a real job
>>535378782you do not posess the skills of differentiation, critical thought, or imagination anymore.you are not human. you are functionally a bot. I know you are flesh and bone. But you are no longer human. honestly, its just pathetic. I wanna get away from you.
>>535378840Now write it again but without crying this time
>>535378981Now try to actually respond to anything that was said in this thread. You cant. You literally cannot communicate with humans anymore.Lmao get the fuck away from me you freak
>>535379288I did multiple times. That you can't read is not my issue.
>>535359861Russia to me symbolizes a pure manifestation of globohomo. Them losing was inevitable honestly. Putin also doesnt have any support outside of the old anyway so I don't see much of a future either for his ideas.
>>535361637>Russia doesn't want a neighboring country to keep bombing it for the next 100 yearsMaybe they shouldn't have invaded that neighbour then?Now they've lost over a million men, to he European market, their economy in general is on fire(sometimes literally lmao) and moscow is getting bombed.They can still cut their losses and just fuck off back home and the dying will stop but jewtin is afraid he'll get his own turn at the Russian express elevator.
>>535379791what's the point of coming to the geo politics board when you know absolute jackshit about geo politics and spewing your retarded spiel around
>>535379791Have you checked the price of oil?Russia is earning record oil revinuesEat shit disinfo troon
>>535375886>Redditspacing memeflag russia shillSaaaaaaaar!
>>535380049>No counter argument, just feminine screechingI accept your concession.>>535380183The price is up... and Russian refineries and ports are suffering "smoking accidents" one after another lolAnd when their tankers do get out to sea they're FREE for anyone to take while russia watches from their designated cuck chair LOL!
>>535359861These have to be endless shill threads, the answer is very very very obvious. War was never supposed to be "won" its a meatgrinder of family bearing native men so you can replace them with nigs and arabs. Ukraine being destroyed was just so jews can move there later when israel gets fukt.
>>535380671in order to argue with someone he has to have at least some minimal baseline knowledge of the subject.if your whole knowledge of the conflict is "russia invaded ukraine for no reason and unprovokingly" which is akin to that of a boomer that watches CNN once a week then you have no business discussing this conflict whatsoever , let alone here.
>>535365639Technically yes, but at the cost of losing all soft power they had in Ukraine. The potential they had to subvert all of it was wasted in the most inefficient way possible.
>>535380977I know you're just a paid jeet so facts don't matter but russia was under no threat of attack or invasion.None of these Russians had to die, Russia could still be making bank off the European market, this is entirely a self-inflicted disaster for russia.
>>535380671You are truely retarded>https://euromaidanpress.com/2026/05/04/russia-record-oil-revenue-march-2026-federal-budget-shortfall/>https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/world/europe/russian-oil-revenues-doubled.html>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/25/putin-making-760m-a-day-oil-war-iran-windfall/>https://united24media.com/world/russia-sees-oil-profits-soar-as-urals-price-hits-new-highs-18832
>>535381895>Russia could still be making bank off the European market,what a great ((kohenicedence)) that they are now forced to buy your overpriced LNG
>>535381895>russia was under no threat of attackUkraine has been launching offensives and killing Russians to take back Crimea since 2014Retard faggot shill
>>535382090i think he's just a genuine clueless retard that feels obliged to butt his worthless uninformed dogshit opinion in as most clueless retards tend to feel
>>535382090Russian terrorists have been bombing Ukrainian civilians since 2014.
Very sad war, totally pointless invasion by russia and a disaster for both countries.
>>535359861I don't care I just want Russia to die and it's taking way too long for everyone to wake the fuck up to the fact that ALL Russia is evil and must be eradicated like the weed of Satan from this earth
>>535379322>I did multiple timesYou sperg about unrelated shit and your mental delusions is what you are doing. bot
>>535382090>take backAh, so it was taken and didnt democratically join, thank you kek
>>535359984>russia has lost millions of men.>ukraine in the 500K mark.imagine actually believing that
>>535376783Ziggers told me Russia recruits 30k a month to replace soldiers that had contract ended. But you're telling me that in 4 years of fighting only 120k soldiers returned from front? What happened to million that signed it?
>>535382799>look mom I am pretending win on the interweb!
You are trying to make it make sense, OP, that's a mistake. It doesn't make sense. The only thing that makes sense is for Russia to completely withdraw the forces from Ukraine.It doesn't need "territories" (the wasteland that they created where no one will live because of fear of the war returning). If Russia doesn't lack anything it's territory.What Russia lacks is able-bodied population, money, good relations with neighbors. Which are all things it insists to destroy in this war.Have you seen that webm where a Russian psycho junkie stabs himself repeatedly in the stomach with the kitchen knife while giggling? That's Russia right now. And you are like: "How does stabbing yourself in the stomach benefit you?"
>>535377261>>535377272>mediazonalmao
>>535382918>look mum im pretending im a winnerkek
>>535359861neland nato fags rigged the election for zelensky who is a pawn for the labor socialist world order and main objective was to re route resources in mainly eastern ukraine toward the west for profit and not let it go to russian buisnesses, its all so tiresome
>>535359861Russia already got the most valuable soil under their control and about 10mio new citizens.the already getting new profits from it right now.Also humiliating the USA and EU and gaining much respect among their alliesTheir weapons will be the hot shit on the market and sold like cut bread for the next 50 years. Germany is literally forced to rebuild their army mesmilingattheblacksun.jpgNext government (AfD) is Russian friendlyWe will get cheap energy againand the strongest army in 100years.Whats your problem?
>>535371965>killing ukrainians until there is no one left to defend kiev somehow isn't demilitarization???
>>535359861>Confusing the terrorist regime of Ukraine with Ukraine the countryLast time I checked all the smart people fledI guess you're still there
>>535360470look at this retard
>>535360470>90% of that was taken with the first few weeksand the rest of the war has been ukraine trying and failing to take it back. but somehow people tell me that it is in fact russia that is losing.
>>535359861>russia winningOnly the most retarded delusional faggots believe this, the only chance to win was during the first few months, now its either a forever war or a Korea type stalemate, without nukes nothing will change, and with nukes its too risky America can chimp out and do to Russia what it did to Soviet Union and we'll see a thousand new dwarf countries forming with Russia being reduced just to Moscow and a few surrounding kilometers.
