And a resetting/reinvention of the US government.This need not be violent but it must be effective. These are my current political thoughts as I mentally sift through the dumpster fire the west has become.
You're using antisemitism as an ethnic scapegoat in order to protect the wealthy by diverting blame away from them and on to "the jews".You're using your ethnic scapegoat in order to crush class warfare by diverting the public into pointless and fruitless identity politics.The only reason for anything you post, anything, is to protect the fucking billionaires.
>>535359864>>535359999You are both jews and you must shut the fuck up.
>>535359999Can one not hate both the wealthy and the jews? Your brain broken? Usually one in the same. Digits wasted.
>>535360287You're discussing "intersectionality" now. The same as reddit SJWs do. The same as BLM. The same as "3rd wave feminists". The same as "radical transgender identity politicians". What you're discussing is the false, billionaire-funded notion that both identity politics and class politics can be discussed in the same context but its inherently fake because the identity politics is always whats used to divert the public ire away from the class politics. And this is why billionaires fund it.So no. In short, you're a fucking mendacious propagandist piece of awful trash who is trying to divert as much blame as possible away from "the wealthy" and on to "the jews" or whatever convenient scapegoat you can cook up, in order to protect your precious precious billionaires.And you will invariably pretend to be too fucking dumb to understand what I just posted. And this is just 1 more mechanism you people use to evade having to confess to your bullshit.
>>535360287>>535360458PS /pol/ intersectionality is no different from reddit intersectionality. Its both funded by the billionaire class for the purpose of diverting class based angst into fruitless identity politics culture wars. When the billionaire cannot divert 100% of that class based angst by saying "trickle down economics" or selling people fruitless dreams of wealth and capitalism which they will never realize, then he tells them "do both the idpol and the class stuff".
>>535360042No, I dont think so. The predation that is practiced upon the common man by the elite and owner class as well as these fucking jews that invited it all in the first place must be replaced by a system that respects the dignity and life of the aforementioned working class if long term stability is what you want. Fire everyone and replace them with AI, non-stop inflation, a non-functioning housing market, an "American" or perhaps "Western" dream that increasingly becomes ONLY a dream and there will sooner than later be blood spilled.The crime that is happening now is almost incomprehensible in its scope. That these parasites have gotten away for this long is a repulsive stain on human history.>>535360042
>>535359999>is to protect the fucking billionaires.apologize for the USS Liberty and killing Jesus, then we can talk
>>535360458You only care about money and defending the actions of jews. I was in the last thread with you. You gave up replying to me. You're a jewish communist. And you are a communist for the gain of jews. Nobody should listen to a word you say. Hello again. Shalom.
>>535359864Pogroms are the only path to White freedom, faggot. Take your niggers and coons and fags and fuck off.
>>535359999The wealthiest of the wealthy are jews, so...
>>535360586Every word you say is just designed as a mockery of leftist politics because you post leftist rhetoric, but then at the last minute you pull the rug out from everyone by saying "ahh, but the jews" instead of "ahh, but the wealthy". And please don't waste my time again with the billionaire's beloved "oh but lets do both! lets do the intersectionality!" fucking horseshit.The fact that almost all western PAC money (which comes from primarily billionaires) is going into that exact very notion should be enough to shut down the idea that your intersectional bullshit is a threat to the establishment. Forever.
>>535360458>>535360577Listen here you retarded nigger, both groups are problems because life is more complicated than the thin 2d bullshit you're espousing. Jews historically brought corruption to this country and undermined the nuclear family unit and instigated the most virulent and predatory business practices seen in the last 200 years. And now the Wealthy, regardless of origin or ethnic, happily and callously drain the blood of the working man to plump their own wallets and to stay afloat on a sinking ship they are largely responsible for sinking in the first place.I dont accept your retarded binary choice, like. Both are fucked. And both must be dismantled peacefully or through fire.
>>535360777That's a blatant and very rather obvious lie you tell people in order to protect the very wealthy by diverting blame away from them and on to your pointless ethnic scapegoat.
>>535360828You'd know all about telling lies for you own gain wouldn't you, jewish communist.
>>535359864What are the implications if the news isnt delivered by a blonde bimbo?
>>535360809Your rhetoric is funded by the billionaire class more than any other rhetoric on this planet. "Intersectionality". It's literally the #1 type of politics their funded. So the notion that what you're writing would be in any way anti-billionaire, when its literally coming from their bank acct funding, is fucking beyond dumb. Like I wrote above, you would invariably pretend not to fucking understand my posts, or the concepts within them, in order to evade having to confess for the fact that what you're doing here is only intended to protect your precious billionaires as a fucking evil class.
>>535360828>ethnic scapegoat Only kikes write faggy shit like this.
>>535360779Why are you like this? Both groups are major issues. That is the actual REALITY of the situation and a mountain of evidence backs up this assertion from the fallout of post ww2 politics to Jewish involvement in the "Weimar"ism of America. I refuse your gay dialectic and CALL FOR BOTH TO BE POLICED, sir. I dont shy away from this nor do I feel there is anything more particularly demanding in your diatribe to respond to but baseless assertion over fact.
There's no one who doesn't understand these simple concepts. You people on this board speak down to the world as if we're all fucking dumb. "oh, tee hee, they will be too fucking dumb to understand I'm diverting their blame on to 'the jews' and away from 'the billionaires" but guess what? we're not too fucking dumb. and the way you talk down to us, and patronize us, even make us hate you even fucking more.
>>535360918>Your rhetoric is funded by the billionaire classMay I see any evidence that the billionaire class is funding anti-jewing rhetoric?
>>535359864That image can be summed up with one merchant
>>535360993Remember above when I wrote "you would invariably pretend not to fucking understand my posts, or the concepts within them, in order to evade having to confess for the fact that what you're doing here is only intended to protect your precious billionaires as a fucking evil class."? So let me just redirect you back to them. >>535360918, >>535360779, >>535360577, >>535360458.FYI when you do this....when you pretend you're too dumb to understand basic words in order to evade having to address them or alter your views....you're just proving you're complicit. You motherfucker.
>>535360893I dont know. Im afraid im becoming a communist. I dont love that idea but its clear to me now something is deeply, deeply wrong with unregulated capitalism. Still exploring these perceptions.
>>535361002Hilarious how you people try to deny everything. No matter how basic and utterly fucking obvious. In modern times its become undeniable the world's wealthiest billionaires are pushing overt antisemitism. Always were.
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>>535360828Rockefeller, Rothschild, Goldman Sachs, Epstein, etc.>pic related
Don't be ridiculous lol"Class Warfare" is a despicable concept used by communist dogs to manipulate the feeble minded into doing their bidding. I shall not give up the wealth that has been maintained by my family since way, way, way back in the 1400s simply because a someone else wants it. The Jews have siphoned off enough already and no earthly power has the authority to demand this of me.I'm just not doing it. I'm just not.
>>535361085Listen here you fucking kike. Nobody is on your side. Nobody can fucking stand you, and your crimes are laid bare for all to see. This is the information age, and it is blazing simple for anyone with two brain cells to see what the Jews have done. Your involvement in globalism, the bankrupting of entire nations. Truth is theres nothing you're saying worth responding to, and you're here to derail my rather dangerous message that you and your billionaire crony friends should all probably be executed for treason.Shalom, kike.
>>535361159Surely something so fucking obvious, basic, and undeniable, would have SOME evidence. So I ask again, what evidence is there that the billionaire class is pushing anti-jew rhetoric?
>>535359999>protect the wealthy>>535359999>by diverting blame away from them and on to "the jews"You ever bother to look up who the top 1% mostly are anon?3000 billionaires2600 of them are SOCIALISTS and mostly JEWS.
>>535361195Yeah those are a handful of wealthy people whom you've selected via cherrypicking in order to make a point which makes no sense, since everyone can see with their own 2 eyes that most of the worlds wealthiest people are obviously not Jewish.>But google pushes my nazi rhetoric! That makes it true!That's only vindicating everything I wrote above about how the wealthy and powerful are funding your antisemitism rhetoric. Jews are not "overrepresented" (whatever the fuck that even means anyhow). What you've done is to conflate 2 separate definitions of what it means to be "jewish" (one being ethnically, religiously Jewish, which is 2.5% of the population. And the other being 1/8th, or 1/16th Jewish, or even just marrying a woman who is just partly jewish, or even just having a vaguely vaguely jewish sounding name). So no. Its all fucking fiction.
>>535361159He didn’t deny it, faggot he asked for evidence. Lying yid.
>>535361324>You ever bother to look up who the top 1% mostly are anon?>3000 billionaires>2600 of them are SOCIALISTS and mostly JEWS.No. They're not. Thats just direct falsehood made up out of nowhere for the purpose of preying on people who apparently wouldnt even know the most basic facts about our world. Or even what socialism is or means.
>>535361247You are a man, not a god. You should be taxed fairly and your attempts to dodge those taxes be patched and policed. I dont know your family's history, but the idea that you are getting wealthier while the common man cannot eat sickens me. In the end, he will eat YOU.
>>535361345>uh oh! You used google!>genetic fallacyYou're not equipped with a good enough iq to look at links or cross reference? No, that's just typical disingenuous argumentation. Look, idc either way. If jews get annuddah shoah or if ceos get axed, they're both interlinked. I win either way.
>>535361302THEY'RE LITERALLY POSTING IT ON THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, AND FUNDING EVERY ONE OF YOUR "BASED ANTISEMITIC E CELEBS AND POLITICIANS" AND EVEN OPENLY DOING NAZI SALUTES IN PUBLIC AT BIG RALLIES. FUCK YOU, YOU INEBRIATED GASLIGHTING PROPAGANDISTS. NOT TO MENTION HOW ANON HERE PROVED GOOGLE IS PUSHING YOUR INEBRIATED NAZI BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA >>535361195 WHICH IS BASED ON THE MISREPRESENTATION OF 2 VARYING DEFINITIONS OF "WHAT IT MEANS TO BE JEWISH" (AS I DISCUSSED HERE >>535361345)
>>535361348Fuck you cringeworthy gaslighters there are billionaires literally doing nazi salutes on big stages in front of billions >>535361503. On top of the fact that NONE OF THE POSTS HERE ON /POL/ NOR NONE OF YOUR "BASED E CELEB" OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT ORGANIC.
>>535361407Your view comes from jealousy. You read of that wealth, got jealous, and formed a scenario where his wealth is taken and he is harmed. What will really happen is the wealthy that valued their wealth too much, and did not spend it trying to save the west from immigration and the plight of jews, will lose it anyway eventually. So what does it matter? Don't be jealous.
Pretty clear , now that my ideas severely upset these jewish defense force glowniggers. I'm not playing one side or the other anymore. It's f****** clear that both sides are problems and it's clear that we both need to make this a major talking point. We're past the point where voting even works anymore. It is time to overthrow this form of government in the west and take our future into our own hands, and build it with our own strength, and imbue it with the spirit of our morals, ethics and convictions.An age where we are no longer slaves to anything but Nature and her enduring laws. We don't have to live like this. We can all fight back. We can make a different life for ourselves in spite of these predators. All I'm saying.
>>535361567You’re a giant pussy.
>>535359864Rich people actually need something to steal though and our society is so barebones that it's becoming impossible except for imaginary numbers.
>>535361503>THEY'RE LITERALLY POSTING IT ON THEIR OWN SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, AND FUNDING EVERY ONE OF YOUR "BASED ANTISEMITIC E CELEBS AND POLITICIANS"So then show me the evidence of this funding? It should be easy since it's apparently everywhere that billionaires are doing this.>WHICH IS BASED ON THE MISREPRESENTATION OF 2 VARYING DEFINITIONS OF "WHAT IT MEANS TO BE JEWISH" Can you prove that that's what the statistic was based off of?I'm hearing a lot of conjecture from you, not many fact nor evidence that support your position.
>>535361503>all caps>double replyingLmao he mad! Btw posting in all caps doesn't mean you're right lol
>>535361588Its about justice, not jealousy. I genuinely dont want to be you sir. Your life comes with setbacks I dont think you've completely examined.In as much as the owner class has enslaved and abused the working base, I have my issue and there my issue is justified by even a common reading of morality. If in any one point , it really does simply boil down to someone has more than you, then yes, I agree.It would be petty. But it is much more destructive than that. Housing market speculation is one such example. A behavior that should be illegal. But it's not going to be , is it? In the end , you will have the people's court, not the one you bought off.
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>>535361636He's a neurotic jew, goes absolutely unhinged when you don't fall for or play along with his pilpul.
>>535361781No shit
>>535361407>I just feel that XReally? Really anon? You think you have a right to what I possess simply because you want it? Ghastly. Such an evil, evil ideology. You are one sick pup.
>>535361765I wasn't born into wealth, but at the same time I'm not jealous of them either, if you'd met and hung out with many of them then they're all rather tragic and stunted by the money and ease of life they've had. Isn't that punishment enough? All the class war nonsense is pushed by communist jews so you attack your own powerful/wealthy/rich on their behalf and they can swoop in afterwards and take total control. I care not if my countryman is obscenely rich, as long as he is proactive in the defenses and prosperity of my nation, and his countrymen with it.
>>535359999a fucking Christkiller got the digits, pathetic.even the welfare kikes in NJ are more wealthy than the average person in the USA (due to rampant fraud) Kill yourself you filthy faggot kike
>>535361916It is only natural that a overfed entitled pig be cut up and fed to the children.I will say it again.I don't know you and I don't know your family. To the extent that you have participated in abuse , you will be judged. I'm not convinced necessarily that becoming wealthy is the result of abuse only. But for many , if not most , it is. It is the theft of the laborer's due wages.Now whatever your family is done, is for now between you and god. But when it is no longer so, i think it would be better if you had a good excuse. Thats all.
>>535361916How about reaganomics where you're forced to pay the state to maintain your wealth and simultaneously make the country better? Aka natsoc economics
>>535359864>This need not be violentOh my sweet summer child
>>535361937I think you should read into the spirit of what I'm saying.I'm specifically referring to predatory wealth. I'm referring to laborers being basically in slave by massive corporations that pay them a sliver of what their labor is worth. This\nIs actually how most wealth is created in these days. I'm open to the possibility that a rich man did not resort to this behavior. If he did , then what he has stolen should be redistributed.Let a moral man become wealthy and I will congratulate him.
>>535362055For reasons , I have to say the line. Ultimately , the decision to shoot first will be theirs, and then they will deserve the comeuppence.
>>535362045We don't have to bolshevic them. Historic evidence points to the abuse massive amounts of wealth can cause, while simultaneously showing a cultivation of their kind to fuel economies. We can just hold them responsible for the burden they potentially could cause, but not throw the baby out with the bathwater and have them join in on this burden with everyone else. The migration to cheaper countries is a myth, like what we're seeing in real time with hedge funds being sold on this idea of a move to Miami due to the new NYC mayor's policies. The reality is, none of these people want to exodus away from places they love, or yhe people they love therein. At the same time, they shoulder the 40% taxes because they might save, what, 200k+ tops moving? Plus being in a shittier place like Miami? In wow terms, that ain't bis.
>>535362124Some people are natural born slaves, in fact most are, that's the human condition. They waste everything they are given the moment they are given it and toil away the next day with no regard or thought to the fact that maybe if they didn't waste everything they wouldn't have to. You can't elevate these people. They are what they are and must be used accordingly.There does however need to be upward mobility for the competent, and genius, not born into wealth, they need to be headhunted for greater things. At the moment there is a lot of wasted potential lost because of great people not being born into wealth. And that is criminal, but jewish communism and all its sins is not the solution.
>>535362388I will never acknowledge the "necessity" for using people and draining them dry because by your own opinion you are "special" and worthy to do so. If they are simple, that is one thing by itself. That is not a prelude to justifiable theft of labor.
>>535362388This is why I prefer the Prussian model over the English(jewish) method of socialism>be warned this video is datedhttps://youtu.be/8rPuMXdowCU?si=KGbPITlX_r4lrpXW
>>535362621Unless you're being held at gunpoint you are free to leave any job? So you willingly choose to turn up, get paid badly, complain, and then do it the next day? Natural born slaves like I said. You can't elevate such a person. It's pointless. They literally can't even help themselves.
>>535362723As I said if they are simple it is one thing. But a nation's government should be invested in the welfare of its people, including protecting them from predatory hiring practices. You cannot be trusted to set your own wages if this is your mentality. You should obviously be regulated. And the economy should be expected to make whatever emergency maneuvers required to compensate for that regulation if people wish to see a nation and government that truly represents them and that they can honestly believe in.I have to say I find your opinion of the common man disturbing and lacking in moral or ethical restraint. You may very well be the thing itself that I am warning against.
>>535362899I've lived through more poverty than probably most westerners on this board. I was surrounded by these people for a long time. I escaped, they did not, I know this subject more deeply than most. It's a character issue, and those stuck in it are stuck in it because of their character. That's the reality of it. And if you saw how most of them lived, thought, spent their money etc you'd be disgusted by them. They are incapable of being elevated. We must direct focus to headhunting the genius and gifted born into poverty though no fault of their own, instead of foolishly trying to raise them all up when they are mostly fundamentally incapable of achieving anything great.
>>535359864>>535359999>Please take economic advice from an unemployed kike
Actually no, make an argument as to why shareholders are your enemy.Anyone who invests in the markets is a shareholder, so are you going to neck bob the burger flipper too?If some fat fuck who has 100mil in market monopoly money cashes out and sits on it, does fucking nothing with it, does that make them your enemy? Its money thats not doing anything for or against anyone, even its owner. I have a feeling (you) are a fuck up with 10 addictions, bad habits, a felony record, and just hate everyone who lives a better life than you.
>>535364097I explicitly said, show me a moral man who became wealthy and I will congratulate him.Im not convinced being wealthy or being an owner is explicitly tied to abuse. But it often is.It USUALLY is tied to the theft of labor. And I have no moral qualms stringing up anyone guilty of that. I sleep easy with that conviction.
>>535361503this isn't going to help you bring the anti-semites to class consciousnesseveryone here knows elon is autistic and was not actually trying to salute hitler in that pictureyou're going to have to accept that the jews are MASSIVELY over-represented among the bourgeoisie and understand that the jewish question IS a class questionhowever, the anti-semites struggle to answer this question: why is so much of the bourgeoisie NOT jewish ("shabbos goyim", in their worldview)start there
>>535359999He said a class war anon don’t worry that means all the other traitors are blamed too not just the jewish ones a class war is not half a measure solution.
>>535364632Jobs are voluntary, there is no theft of labour, you willingly give it up for a price. You do not have to partake in it. You choose to. From my poverty days I only keep in contact with a few, and they are mainly the ones who rejected it entirely, choose to live on the outskirts of society, tents in the woods etc. They funnily enough were of more decent character than the others. They were realistic, not willingly giving up their labour and then complaining it had been stolen like a fucking idiot for a start.
>>535363135>fuck you, got mineyour worldview is repulsive and narcissistic
>>535364868When you create a monopoly where you are the only possible choice of employment for an entire population of people, and everywhere they turn, the option is allow theft of starve, you are guilty of exploiting people. This isn't that hard to figure out. If it was easy for someone to turn away from one manipulative exploitative employer in turn to the plethora of other non exploitative , employment options around them, i might agree with you, possibly. But that is not the case, and it only unusual cases can someone simply get away from this type of predation which is usually systemic and saturates the market in their area.I've got nothing left to say to you because your view of the common man is actually reprobate. Disturbed by many of the things you've said in this thread.
>>535364968I didn't say fuck you did I. It is possible to escape from poverty, but a lot of potential is wasted because the genius and gifted aren't pulled out of it as soon as possible. That's what I said. If that view repulses you then I'm not really sure what to say.
>>535359864>This need not be violentthat's my thought tooviolent overthrow doesn't make sense in postmodernity, because it's not completely clear who or what you're going to overthrowtesla has millions of shareholders, so what exactly changes if you get rid of elon? probably very littleon the other hand, what would happen if you formed a union of tesla employees and put control of the company in their hands, like huawei in china? it might be something good
>>535365165>It's a character issue, and those stuck in it are stuck in it because of their character. That's the reality of it. And if you saw how most of them lived, thought, spent their money etc you'd be disgusted by them. They are incapable of being elevated.you very much did say "fuck you", but more cruelly
>>535359864herbs
>>535364710It just takes a little bit of cool headed clarity. I mean , there's the various political cults that we deal with in the day that all have their talking points. But if you actually slow down and observe the picture, absorb what it really looks like.And be honest with yourself , you'll often find yourself on the outskirts of public opinion. In this case , it has often actually been a divide , especially here on pol. Regardless, a level headed view of the situation reveals both groups to be problems, generally speaking of course. Good on you for recognizing it.
>>535365160Then they are all free to not sell their labour and go do their own thing like a tent in the woods. You're all greedy though, tent in the woods isn't good enough for you, the pay isn't good enough for you, that other man is richer than me so I should be given it all because otherwise this isn't good enough. And for all this talk of the common man, the real common man, who rejects this, and goes the tent in the woods option, you greedy bastards drag them down by accepting shit pay and shit conditions for your greed in the first place. Dumb greedy fuckers is what most you are. Crabs in a bucket.Tell me your view of the common man then?
>>535365326Common people do not commonly go to the tent in the woods. Or leave the society they helped build. From the viewpoint of justice, the society the common man bled to create should be repaired, not something he should be altogether exiled from.My view is that he is the ordinary case human being, replete with thoughts, feelings, relationships and his own inner world. A being with the right to exist, to pursue happiness undeterred and such a being that his government should explicitly protect him from any exploitation by outlawing it."Greedy"...Hell of a word for someone who works sixty hours a week and simply wishes to feed his children and keep a roof over their head.
>>535365492Like I say the only ones I keep in touch with are the tents in the woods people because they are fundamentally better people. You lot however shit on them by rejecting their living conditions. You shit on them by accepting shit pay in the first place. You shit on them because you are greedy. Where's the unity comrade? Eh? Greedy fucking crabs in a bucket. If you've ever accepted shit pay before living in a tent in the woods you're a fucking crab in a bucket dragging the common man down. You are the problem you greedy dumb fucks. Honestly, the fucking state of you all. You get what you deserve in life.
if jews control the money supply, which they do, then all opposition to jewry will rooted in class warfare. to be rich, jews need to have made you rich. i dont mean surviving with waging rich, but the sort of rich which could feed and outfit an army. those people are long gone and have sworn their allegiances to jews. so any concerted opposition will be forced to do it the old fashioned way, by taking what doesnt belong you. theres simply no other way. most people gotta be back at work tommorow, theyve got a few hundred dollars saved up and couldnt get across the country if they tried.you guys think killing a jew and living in his mansion off the infinite supply of gibs stipened onto the cards he had in his wallet is a joke, but its not. its a prophecy. not the fake and gay biblical kind, but the protocols of zion kind. its not a question of if, but when. an inevitability. and theres only so many jewish mansions to choose from, so its going to be first come first serve. lets hope those people use their recovered wealth wisely and dont just neet the rest of their lives away
>>535365600People shouldn't accept shit pay but often it isnt up to them. And to be sure, you too will deserve what you get when the last straw breaks.
>>535365732It is up to them. Nobody has a gun to your head. Even if they did you have a choice. Just admit you're greedy. You are greedy for the money of others, but ironically your greed makes you accept shit offers and makes you easy to manipulate. If everyone went tents in the woods wages would increase to astronomical levels, but you never could, your greed stops you, you'd break the line at a pathetic $20 an hour even if you could all contain your greedy for a brief moment anyway. Crabs in a bucket. Fuck off.
>>535365887Unhinged.
>>535366018I think the same about greedy people, especially when they willingly give up their labour and then say its theft, now that truly is unhinged.
